Let's Look at Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood!

Sonic's first foray into the RPG genre. Developed by Bioware even! Does this stand up to classics like Final Fantasy? Paper Mario? Pokémon?............NOPE. Not at all.

[@anothergamer112]

"When I see the Bioware logo, I expect Bioware quality!" It's actually really depressing how poorly this quote aged.

[@anon_3339]

Game Bean lmaooo rip

[@NinjaSox7]

Yeah Anthem was awful lol

[@jacksongemmell6225]

I’m sad now. 😔

[@okagron]

Bioware wasn't even that good to begin with. I guess compared to the trash Bethesda was releasing at the time Bioware was releasing Mass Effect and Dragon Age, their games looked far better by comparison. But their games had a ton of problems that people just chose to ignore and overpraise the shit out of the game as a whole.

[@RoboticEdward]

@@okagron such as

[@Twilord_]

The great tragedy of this is it really felt like the scenario writer had a lot of love for Sonic... and no-one else on the team cared.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

It baffled me how this got some 9/10s from proffessional reviewers

[@MarioFanaticXV]

The same way Bioware always gets any good reviews; they paid them off.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

if you want to believe that. Go ahead.

[@MarioFanaticXV]

And how do you explain it?

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

some people just have different taste in games. Theres people out there that would give Sonic 06 a 9/10. Sonic Chronicles isnt even that, Clement just sucks at the touch screen thing. (although the game is still pretty poor)

[@MarioFanaticXV]

***** I guess that people who think the Action 52 was bad are just discussing their taste? We're talking about what's good and bad, not what we like and dislike, taste has no place in this discussion. And who brought up the touch screen? I'm talking about the game having typical Bioware Syndrome.

[@justsimon4196]

It's angering because there is so, so, SO much potential for a Sonic RPG!

[@userunknown3761]

SimonBRUH8217... again It was a decent game

[@SumTr011]

Darragh Duffy no, it wasn't. Did you not watch this entire video? Besides, decent doesn't equate to great. There is no such thing as a great Sonic RPG to this date.

[@onthedre]

It was a decent game. When i played it as a kid i beat it twice, as a kid i thought the models were bad, but i loved the gameplay and the cool maps. I also loved the winter levels song for some reason

[@makotokatsuragi2720]

ƒœs the gameplay too?

[@farmerwithshotgun5166]

Unshakeable Spirit I get it, guy. You dislike popular things. That doesn't make you unique. Also, it's people like you that make me hate Sonic fans. Grow a pair and realize that this game isn't very good.

[@Faapu]

At least this game has the single greatest running animation of all time, belonging to Eggman.

[@kylecampbell565]

No that's SA2 chao garden eggman

[@Faapu]

Kyle Campbell Let's all just agree that all of Eggman's running animations are incredible.

[@ProctorDorkchop]

@@Faapu What about (Boom) Dr. Eggman's moon walk in Sonic Boom....

[@megaman15ish]

I love you Blaze.

[@Jangobadass]

Something I'd like to say about the music: the composer had no idea how to use the DS' sound system and a lot of trouble with it and no one seemed to care enough to help him or replace him.

[@Matthew_Klepadlo]

Jangobadass WOW And that's really soup-ricin because Sonic almost always has good music. Even at his darkest, it was fantastic… but this? NAH!

[@jacobmontepetit9011]

Wow. That actually explains everything on why the soundtrack's shit. And yet, they passed it. *sighs*

[@psychie8625]

Isn't it sad that Sonic Chronicles has nothing but MIDI files while Pokémon Platinum, released the same year, has the Frontier Brain theme, and Bowser's Inside Story, released a couple of months after, has In The Final?

[@Jtmissile]

Link?

[@TheChefBoo]

@@psychie8625 and Super Mario64 DS, a launch title, has pretty good versions of the original games.

[@Errox025]

Wait....The music in Chronicles was remixed Sonic music? I'm sorry, the music in this game was so horrible I didn't noticed. I think that if SEGA ever wants to do another Sonic RPG, they should try something like the Mario & Luigi series.

[@MegaBunso123]

Errox025 this is basically a shitty copycat of that series

[@johnathonturner2279]

No, then it would be an obvious knockoff off those games.

[@PeruvianPotato]

I think this game tried to be like the Mario and Luigi games on the DS but failed

[@johnathonturner2279]

@@PeruvianPotato I feel like it was trying to do it's own thing with the pow minigames. What I don't get is why I can dodge all the powerful attacks but not regular attacks.

[@psychie8625]

Considering how AlphaDream went bankrupt, that would be great.

[@PeterGargan]

13:26 "Missed." "PERFECT!" Jokes aside, I can never bring myself to dislike this game, even though I know from an objective critical perspective it's kinda bad, but childhood nostalgia is a powerful entity and I still enjoy it to this day for some reason.

[@9k49]

Agreed

[@michaelaburns734]

I just got it in the mail from Ebay. So far I like it.

[@liamclarke91]

Now that Sega owns Atlus, I wonder if they'll ever be given a shot at a Sonic RPG?

[@michaelaburns734]

That is a great combination dream.

[@aortaplatinum]

I'd love to see it done again after the success of Yakuza 7: Like A Dragon. I doubt SEGA would have the balls to outsource it again, but with actual brain-haver and fellow Sonic ultranerd Aaron Webber way up in the company, it's not impossible.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Given my colorful history with Sonic Unleashed... oh, what I'd give to be a guest star in this upcoming LP.

[@MegamanNG]

I want to see Clement LP Knights of the Old Republic. It is truly a masterpiece.

[@charlesstrong322]

Same

[@MegamanNG]

Yep. :)

[@HistoryGuru1234]

I agree 100%!!

[@MegamanNG]

HistoryGuru1234 Yeah. Not to mention Mass Effect.

[@elliott1781]

It's Still Good, But The Force Unleashed Is Better.

[@MrTheDerper]

*cries in a corner thinking I am the only one who liked The Dark Brotherhood*

[@lilsunny7399]

MrTheDerper you arent

[@MrTheDerper]

Macho Pony *sniffle* really?

[@lilsunny7399]

really

[@garupakyojin1361]

MrTheDerper Its reception is actually pretty high, so there's definitely some other people who liked this game.

[@Indigo1Black]

MrTheDerper You are not alone I loved Sonic Chronicles enough that I beat it 6 times! I am really looking forward to a sequel which I think they are already doing.

[@OizenX]

14:05 Holy Hell, Look at Knuckle's pupils on his model. He's hopped up on something.

[@GoodNeutralEvilChaos]

*Can anyone else see the pink fairies?*

[@RubyRaggy]

Sega is the opposite of Nintendo. Nintendo plays it too safe. Sega takes too many risks.

[@jjc4924]

Yep. That's why I'm more of a Mario fan than I am to Sonic. Heck. I'm more of a Crash, Sypro & Mega Man fan than Sonic.

[@White_Recluse]

JJ C Mario has no soul

[@jjc4924]

White. If Mario has no souls, than why was most of his games more successful than Sonic's?

[@jaymyster7262]

JJ C because they played it too safe that’s why I stopped playing Mario I used to love it just to similar for my taste so I stoped

[@jjc4924]

White. That's fine. I'm not saying that I don't like Sonic. I'm just saying Sonic didn't had that many successful games as Mario has. Not all Mario games are great reminding u. But I just found Mario had so many successful games than Sonic. Mania was great; though.

[@EdmacZ]

Sonic Chronicles was a big disappointment to me not because of Bioware, it was the fact that it was a MASCOT RPG. Mascot RPGs are the simplest type of RPG you can make. You don't need to build a mythos. The Characters and Mythos are already there for you to put together. I love the Mario RPG's and how they put quirky little twists and lampshades on the Mario Universe and tradition. Paper Mario: TTYD is one of my favorite games of all time. Superstar Saga is a great game too. A Mascot RPG is impossible to fuck up, yet Bioware managed to do that with Sonic. It's like a fucking curse. Something done really well? Well here comes a Sonic iteration that proves that it can be done badly. Adventure Tours in Mario & Sonic Vancouver DS is a much better RPG-like game than Chronicles. Yes, the fucking SPORTS game is a better RPG than the RPG.

[@URFTBOUND4LIFE]

Megaman X Command Mission although lacking in story and exploration did give us a decent combat system (even though it was a FF10 knock off) and had good boss battles Chronicles was just a wasted opportunity

[@erbebo03]

URFTBOUND4LIFE Atleasr MXCM had something was good

[@MegamanNG]

erbebo03 Lest we forget. Good voice acting.

[@URFTBOUND4LIFE]

***** Now you trippin. MMXCM voice acting was atrocious. Sure compared to past games it was decent ,but as a whole it's still pretty bad and the awful dialog didn't help either.

[@MegamanNG]

URFTBOUND4LIFE The voice acting was at least better than X4's Voice work. I'm one of the few that liked it such as Mark Gatha and Lucas Gilbertson.

[@KiraKiraK1lla]

this video makes me super nostalgic

[@supericee]

Okay, I'll admit, I'm not one for RPGs. But I didn't have a problem with POW Moves, did I fail, yes, did I have a problem, no. I thought the game was rather easy as well. I will agree the music was AWFUL, except the battle themes.

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

I have only one correction; any of the Mario RPG's are can be recommended over this one EXCEPT for Sticker Star.

[@BadCandyStudios]

No, even Sticker Star is better than this. Far better, in fact, and I don't even like Sticker Star that much.

[@SuperfieldCrUn]

BadCandyStudios My point was that any Mario RPG is bound to be a grand affair, with the exception of Sticker Star (Super Paper Mario doesn't count and Partners in Time was admittedly weak, but altogether not that bad).

[@DittoMaster6]

Superfield I will admit that Sticker Star wasn't as good as it could be, but I still found it pretty good, stickers were cheap and plentiful, the Sticker and Thing Museum was awfully relaxing, and I overall had a good time with it. Though I WILL admit it's the worst Mario RPG, it's still a good game nonetheless. But in a Mario RPG, I found making Bowser silent was one of the STUPIDEST DESICIONS THEY COULD HAVE MADE.

[@salmence100]

I loved sticker star. There's obviously some things wrong with it, but I enjoyed it.

[@BadCandyStudios]

***** I haven't completed it yet, but I did enjoy what I did play, it's just that there are so many odd design choices. It's still a decent game though, and nowhere near comparable to THIS monstrosity.

[@Densester]

A theory people have about why this game was so cheap despite Sega's large budget for Bioware, it is believed that Bioware used the funds for Dragon's Age, stole a bunch of midis from the internet, and overall gave it as small of a budget as possible. Why Dragon's Age specifically? Something about the release date or something, I dunno, but it does seem pretty plausible. *And even if they didn't use the budget for DA, we know what happens to Bioware even with a big budget*

[@DestinyZX1]

Funny how years later Gearbox and Sega would collab but then Gearbox used the funds for one game to fund Borderlands 2.

[@brendensibo9320]

The only thing good here is that they pulled plenty of stuff from basically everything in Sonic history.

[@Superluigi881]

I played this game as a kid and I liked it. So i decided to play it again to see what I would make of it now and........ I still enjoy it......please don't hurt me.

[@AlluMan96]

"Look, I know it seems like most of this video is gonna amount to the POW system sucks & that's why the game is bad" Personally, I see nothing wrong in that judgement. It doesn't matter how good a game's story, graphics or music are when the core gameplay element is busted. Hell, even if there was a silver lining to all this like Clement mabye doing something worng, it's still bad design when a game on it's default difficulty (no challenge mode or anything) accepts nothing but A+ perfection from the player. Even seemingly impossible games like Zelda 2 or Castlevania 3 have some form of safety net to get you back on your feet after fucking up. Chronicles doesn't even give you that & it's not like this was a doomed mechanic from the start. Take for example Cream's healing moves. Why not have it so that you have the 8 QTEs to hit, but for each one you hit, it will guarantee you 12,5% of the gotten health. Then there are the drag events. Why can't the game judge the excecution on a relative sence? Still count the hit if it was just close enough, but you'd miss out like some kind of critical hit bonus. But again, if the game demands these kinds of outrageous requirements from the player, then none of the good stuff in the game is worth a damn. The graphics could sparkle all they want & the music could be as feet tappingly awsome as it wanted to be, but I wouldn't wanna bother getting there because the proccess is too painful & in the end, an all-around emotionally painful video game is a bad game. Not worth caring about in the slightest.

[@jaretco6423]

U tooked the words right off my mouth.

[@ShakinJamacian]

I think Sonic Chronicles was the beginning of the end of the Sonic Cycle, but the start of the Bioware Cycle. It was after Chronicles that many of Bioware's games were hammered for having many poor design decisions in future titles.

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

Looks like Sonic done cursed BioWare.. I guess the Dark Age of Sonic was contagious lol

[@CelibateSaihara]

***** So the reason sonic got out of the dark age was giving the dark age disease to bioware? well the disease has returned to sonic with sonic lost world.

[@97dusk]

AthercraftRELOADED (I will warn you, this post is going to be long. Most likely way too long, but I feel that I need to explain my viewpoint and I apologize for how long this thing is. I do respect your opinion and if you don't want to read all of this then you don't have to. I should also mention that this may include spoilers for Lost World for anyone who doesn't know what happens in the story, not that anyone seems to care these days...) Lost World wasn't that bad...yeah the 3DS version was kind of...less than thrilling...but the Wii-U version was actually pretty good. I enjoyed the levels, I liked the story, the gameplay was pretty fun, I play the DLC levels (especially the Zelda level) all the time. Hell, I even went out of my way to get all of the Red Rings because I thoroughly enjoyed the game as a whole (having the ability to get so many lives rather easily helped with that too, because I know I died a lot trying to get a few). I even loved how Sonic and Tails kind of got into an argument for maybe the first time in the series (as far as I'm aware of anyway, do correct me if I'm wrong) and even teaming up with Eggman to take on the Deadly Six after a certain point. And I can safely say that I didn't go into Lost World with high expectations, Sonic 06 (and Majora's Mask, I hated Majora's Mask as much as I hated Sonic 06 and Megaman X6) taught me not to do that, so when I picked up Lost World I didn't expect too much or too little. I reserved judgement until I actually played the game. I'm doing the same with Sonic Boom and I do admit that I like what I'm seeing so far, but again, I'm going to reserve judgement until I actually play the game for myself instead of going off of trailers. The fact that people are instantly saying that Sonic Boom is going to suck is insane to me. They've never played the game and as far as I'm concerned the game still seems to be in development, this thing isn't even out yet and it's already being bashed. This is exactly why I've started to distance myself from the Sonic fanbase, I feel that a vast majority (not mentioning anyone in particular of course, I am aware that not everyone thinks like this) just aren't pleased no matter what SEGA/Sonic Team does, good or bad. I can't even count how many people I've seen bashing Sonic Boom because it's "not Sonic Adventure 3". Calling a game that isn't even out yet "bad" without having any experience playing the game whatsoever (or if it's not a game that it feels like a chunk of people want) isn't even remotely logical to me. Long story short, I did enjoy Lost World despite feeling like I'm in the minority and I do have hopes (though not too much) for Sonic Boom when it's released.

[@CelibateSaihara]

Burraku Dusk 1.I don't understand why you like lost world so much (I personaly thought it was a step back to the dark age of sonic with the lazy story, experimental gameplay[that was bad. A RUN BUTTON IN A SONIC GAME?], Immersion breaking hints that don't help at all and the worst part of it all THE BLATANT COPY AND PASTING FROM MARIO GAMES!) but you are entitled to your opinion so go ahead and like this game. 2.YOU HATE MAJORAS MASK?! sorry your entitled to your opinion I forgot 3. I agree that its ridiculous when people make big judgements about sonic boom when its not even out yet. I once saw sonic boom on someone's top 10 sonic games list and it was at NUMBER 1! HOW DOES THAT WORK!? 4. I fully agree that the fan base is mentally insane but i don't distance myself from the fan base because i am a hardcore sonic fan and am probably just as crazy(although i do not have a religious hate cult about elise [although i hate that bitch])

[@TheTC]

***** The only way to break the curse is to give it to another...

[@Gondarth]

This video has the best description of Sonic 06 I've ever heard.

[@fusionwing4208]

Gondarth i see you on every video clement has ever made xD

[@megaman15ish]

Sonic 06 is better than this game.

[@averystar16]

I swear to god, Sonic Unleashed is the most underrated Sonic game ever

[@sonicjrjr14]

I'd say Chronicles is.

[@theminecraft2516]

Not anymore but now it has to be Heroes

[@xenogen372]

I like Sonic Chronicles. As it was the first RPG I ever played

[@userunknown3761]

SonicZBlade235 It was a good game hes just bad

[@lorumipsum1129]

SonicZBlade235 it's not bad, but it could have been much better.

[@jacobs1834]

+Xinless Vice yes it could've been better.

[@arlenecardona2586]

SonicZBlade235 I loved the game I've played it so many times

[@superiorgamedude]

I'm a fan of Sonic Chronicles as well, then again I'll defend any sonic game so maybe my opinion just sucks. I don't know

[@TheOtherHolly]

I love how at 21:10, the music gets more intense as Clement's ranting gets more intense. xD

[@Gondarth]

Quick message for those who question the Dark Age. Dr Eggman doll says Unleashed is what Clement BELIEVES is the last game in the Dark Age of Sonic

[@gyflies]

Hey look everyone, it's that idiot who doesn't know he's an idiot.

[@Gondarth]

Brandon MacLeod You know you're talking to yourself, right?

[@gyflies]

GondarthReturns So we're both retards, let's stop this argument, take off our clothes, shave off all our hair and glue our heads to the floor.

[@Gondarth]

Brandon MacLeod Ladies first buddy.

[@GamerGuyd7Aces]

I find it funny that Clement considers Sonic Unleashed the Last game of the Dark Age..I'm gonna have to disagree with that, that title goes to Sonic and the Black Knight (2009). A lot of people I know forgot about that game, it was such a forgettable sequel. Most people I know passed on it. Dark Age of Sonic officially ENDED on 2010... That's when the Sonic Renaissance Age begun :)

[@conlia]

***** And the dark age started again when SB:RoL came out

[@Gondarth]

conlia That is a really stupid way of looking at the series. How do you know the dark age started again because of Rise of Lyric? Because the game didn't do well? It was ONE bad game!

[@conlia]

GondarthReturns -_-

[@Gondarth]

conlia No, seriously, enlighten me, what makes you think the Dark Age is back because of one game bombing?

[@conlia]

GondarthReturns 2 games.There SB:SC too

[@joer.6548]

This was the video that introduced me to your channel. i wasnt too little when i saw this game. When i got to the end, being the young kid i was, i still thought "ARE YOU SHITTING ME"(without the profanity) i returned it lighting speed. I was miserable for weeks that i spent my money on it. I had forgotten the name untill i found this video

[@namingisdifficult408]

Clement, have you played Dragon Quest 9? It is a great game and I recommend it to all RPG fans and those getting into RPGS.

[@solaris6428]

I will check it out!

[@namingisdifficult408]

Thank you, it is for the DS and it really is a gem of an RPG.

[@kanchomerocks12]

That game is fucking amazing

[@tjlnintendo]

I just got it. Havnt played it yet.

[@jjc4924]

I wonna play that. I just started getting into the Dragon Quest games. 8 being the first & I enjoyed it. 11 was next & I love that game to death. So I wonna try out other Dragon Quest games. So is 9 any good?

[@HunterSerge]

WOOT! So glad you're doing both versions, Clement! I love the Wii version to death and have very...mixed opinions about the HD version. Can't wait to see what you have to say, or what any Guests may have to say!

[@DarkPaladinX77]

But...But...I like Sonic Unleashed. D:

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

I think Clement does, too.

[@legendsoma744]

I also liked it. Although Eggmanland is the hardest thing ever.

[@Beagleman1996]

On the HD version yes, but the Wii version of Eggmanland isn't all that bad.

[@movingtonewchannel.8360]

The game isn't considered bad, it just was still in the dark ages. Ya gotta remember, this came out when Sonic games were in the toilet as far as the franchise was concerned. I, personally, loved Sonic Unleashed; it wasn't my absolute favorite game in the franchise, but it showed promise and made us aware that Sonic could be good again. Man, what I wouldn't give to be a guest commentator. Too bad I haven't started LP's yet... X3

[@legendsoma744]

No, the Wii version was hell, at least for me. It took me 3 years to beat it. 3 FREAKING YEARS! Never played the XBOX360 or PS3 version though.

[@SonicHunter]

Sonic Unleashed is a gigantic metaphor for nighttime. During the day, everything's hunky dory. During the night, everything that can go wrong goes wrong.

[@sonicfan1984]

This is one of the few Sonic games that got a really positive review from GI and they're praising this game like it's the best Sonic game they've played in years. I dunno if they really like this game for what it is or it's because Bioware is working on it but I'm willing to bet if Bioware wasn't behind it they would've been a lot more harsh on this title.

[@sonicfan1984]

MastaGambit It's not just Game Informer but a lot of gaming websites. I think this game also received gaming rewards too for "Best Handheld RPG of 2008" or something after it came out. I could be mistaken but I remember these sites giving this game a whole lot of praise.

[@TrashJack3000]

So, I wonder what he thinks about the Archie-Ken Penders legal situation that ended up indirectly spawning from this game, which ultimately forced Archie to reboot the Sonic comic universe right in the middle of several then-ongoing plot threads?

[@ToxicAtom]

"This was the perfect Star Wars RPG ever" That was the perfect sentence ever.

[@Sonic_Gamer501]

I'm guessing BioWare just didn't give a shit when they were making this game.

[@eric4636]

At least with both Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces had a way better soundtrack than Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood tbh.

[@FlameHisWorld]

I've heard the Big Arm remix god-knows how many times now, yet I'm still in hysterics whenever I hear it. It's the pinnacle of "I don't even think you tried at all"...

[@BaronessZen]

"Elite Beat Agents the RPG"? Elite Beat Agents was an awesome game, though. Sonic Chronicle's POW moves are more like playing a rhythm game without any music.

[@DonutJulio]

What's the song playing at about 22:00? Sounds like it's from a pokemon game kind of

[@EdmacZ]

I see this game as a turning point for both the Sonic series and Bioware. Before Sonic Chronicles, Sonic was well in the mire of the dark ages, and Bioware was simply untouchable as a developer. Sonic Team sucked, but Bioware was the best on the block! There was no way this game Could fail! But this game came out and it sucked, surprisingly Sonic and Bioware went in two completely different directions. While the Sonic Dark Age persisted for another two years, the Sonic series started to recover, and Bioware? Well...let's just say they were never quite the same after this. It's like the dorkiness of Sonic's Dark Age rubbed off on Bioware.

[@justatoaster3140]

No the turning point was sonic rush

[@toastwings9358]

@@justatoaster3140 the handheld titles never really went into a dark age and sonic rush came out a year before 06

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@justatoaster3140 Are you thinking of Colors?

[@akessel92train]

This game is so cursed it even affected the Archie sonic comics. Nice going Bioware.

[@Thundershot69]

hey clement, you have two more games for the dark age of sonic.. you forgot to do a playthrough of Sonic 06 :) .. (I'm aware of the review and the fact that he doesn't want to do a playthrough of Sonic 06)

[@Koolyaroo]

Omg thunder!!!!

[@GladDestronger]

he did it. he played it and reviwed it at the same time.

[@MrMario65]

LMFAO the music at 9:22 perfectly matched eggman's walking animation. lololol

[@tbrew222]

Literally the ONLY Sonic game with awful music. Heck even Sonic 06 had amazing music.

[@jarekjellison817]

And then Sonic Boom came out.

[@PeruvianPotato]

Sonic 06 was hit or miss

[@TacoManX9]

@@jarekjellison817 Nah, B

[@theminecraft2516]

@@jarekjellison817 Rise Of Lyric didn’t have a bad soundtrack, it was actually a relaxing soundtrack. It wasn’t Sonic quality but it was still not bad. But Chronicles is literally just bad

[@KazumiKiguma]

To be fair Clement, as someone who did find that Chao that lets you automatically win the POWs...it doesn't help make the system any better.

[@MellowFellowVA]

i literally forgot this existed... and i own it

[@vikramtrikha9502]

Lol

[@ruser0084]

Clement... stop joking around and play the real nintendo DS sound track for this game. Stop playing these midi files made by a student game music composer from 1990.

[@Mario1080p]

Good to see you make a video of this game. When Sonic Chronicles was announced that it was going to be made by Bioware, Super Mario RPG first came to mind as Square created an amazing game which lead to many more RPG series later on(Paper Mario/Mario&Luigi).

[@IvanovIvanAKrutoi]

Why not get Sega to make a deal with Squaresoft, the creators of Final Fantasy, to make "Sonic Chronicles 2:Eggman's Revenge"? And make it a lot better, without touch controls, and not as bad as Final Fantasy XIII.

[@noodles00p]

Clement might shoot me for saying I actually enjoyed the WereHog parts of Unleashed.. Then again, I'd played Unleashed right after a heavy binge-play of The Bouncer, so I was used to it lol

[@superlab16]

I actually liked Sonic Battle, I played it all the time as a kid. The music is great, the animations are well done and it's fun to create your own Emerl fighter. It can be a bit repetitive in some missions but overall I think it's pretty fun.

[@BlueBead]

Ditto. I had a great time with Sonic Battle! Really sad my game save got corrupted. I didn't feel like playing it again with all that progress gone, but it was a great game from my childhood.

[@LuccianoBartolini]

If I ever found and buy Sonic Battle: Do you got a tip for me?

[@superlab16]

ummm, I'm not sure if I have one, it's been awhile since I've played it. Take advantage of your strong attack since it sends the opponent flying. It's useful in a lot of missions where you have to survive until the time is over. You should definitely get it if you can, it's a fun Sonic spin-off

[@kennylives04]

Sonic Battle was alright, but it had bullshit pacing. Early in the game, you were required to fight with emerl, but aquired moves were random, meaning you were screwed if you were left with default attacks.

[@ashlynx1]

Was your DS sync correctly?

[@GustavGaming1]

I actually liked this game when I was younger. It's true, I never played an RPG before but I loved Sonic for the speed and I always had high expectations for Sonic games and this one will always be on the top 3 list of best sonic games, 1.Sonic Adventure 2 Battle 2. Sonic DX 3. Sonic Chronicles

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Play it today without any nostalgia clouding your eyes this time.

[@afig2556]

NeutralGuyDoubleZero or how about you stop being childish and let people have opinions

[@OfCourseIMight]

The funny thing is I'm watching this while playing Mario and Luigi Partners in Time. A good RPG for the DS.

[@kieranstark7213]

And the (VERY) sad part??? People actually think that Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time is an underwhelming RPG for the DS and they also think that Sonic Chronicles deserves much more praise!!!!

[@jjc4924]

I rather play Partners in Time over this game. I'm not a fan of PiT. But even that game had some good quality moments unlike this one.

[@Threxx11]

Frankly I never had a problem with any of the POW moves. I didn't find this game to be THAT difficult in all honesty.

[@slyshadic]

I beated the game 6 times and I still enjoy it!

[@scoutdy6547]

The music would have even been out of place Atari 2600

[@SlushTV]

Surprised you consider Unleashed to be dark age.

[@Frynge357]

oh... what... that music... WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!?

[@jonhikarizx3631]

Clement, you've...played PERSONA?! YEEEEES! I must ask you for a commentary over Persona 4! :D

[@Steve-uw8ff]

You forgot to mention how fucking horrendous Eggman's walking animation is.

[@blackg450]

Oh hey, it's the game that later got a lawsuit.

[@DestinyZX1]

FiendIII_Thomas Kaine yep. Fuck Ken Penders. He’s the reason why the Sonic comics are now on IDW’s hands.

[@blackg450]

@@DestinyZX1 Don't forget it's Archie's fault as well due to not having the legal papers and not bothering to continue the case(I can't blame them when you're up against "This guy"). Then Scott Fulop came in to sue Archie and became the final nail in the coffin(At least Archie won the case) Edit:Turns out, Archie was the one doing the cease and desist against Penders. It is still their fault due to not providing any sort of papers proving they own these characters signed by Penders while he himself file a copyright to his characters back in 2009 and finalized in 2010. So this dude got the legal advantage and got what he wants. Still bullshit for what he did, both sides are to blame.

[@RocketPlasma]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the horrible freezing issues this game has, like literally you can get stuck into a freezing loop from just starting and restarting the game.

[@CelestialCookie]

So I'm assuming you liked Bravely Default? Aside from a certain part (if you've played it, you know the one), the game was one of the best turn-based RPGs to come out in a long time.

[@TheTC]

+Celestial Cookie I played the demo and it was awful. Like RPGs aren't my cup of tea, but I'd take Super Mario RPG or MOTHER over BD... any day.

[@okagron]

@@TheTC Glad we know you have terrible taste. Specially Mother 1 over Bravely Default, jesus christ.

[@beta511ee4]

@@okagron Why? It's his opinion, buddy.

[@StarlinkNova]

I enjoy watching anything you LP Clement, your commentary is golden. It was by watching your video's of Sonic that I decided to give his games another go. Mega man games may be my bread and butter, but I enjoy the Sonic series to.

[@J-Wolf17FTW]

Blame ken penders.

[@robdarville5408]

YES! BLAME KEN PENDERS!

[@kylecampbell565]

Robbie G actually the only affect Ken wonders caused outside of the comics was preventing this game form getting a sequel which depending on your perspective might be a blessing

[@Majokodomo]

I saw the aftermath of the lawsuits at the wiki and, quite honestly, this is ridiculous!!! Basically, they're not allowed to use their imaginations! -_-

[@yungmuney5903]

@@kylecampbell565 How the fuck is that a blessing in any sense of the word?

[@KINFIN123]

I don't hate the Warehog. It's a well done beat-em-up segment. Not what you expect from sonic, but they at least did what they were trying to do well.

[@tvia]

This looks nothing like I thought it did when I was a kid.

[@SirJorb]

5:10 Nitpick here: The Nocturnus Clan is not from Angel Island. The area that would become Angel Island was very much associated with the Knuckles Clan - the Nocturnus Clan was a separate faction, who lived in their own city of Nocturne. They may appear on Angel Island during the game, sure, but that doesn't mean they're from there - or else can we assume Eggman is from Angel Island since he appears there in Sonic 3 & Knuckles?

[@theeggman6848]

So Clement if you are accepting guess stas,hows about nickaquamanga?

[@siljeff2708]

I hear a lot of people on the internet say they really like Unleashed. For me, I agree with clement, it was the last game in the dark age, and I absolutely hate playing it, boost to win (yes, I use that term to describe unleashed day, but don't worry, I do not say it for colors or generations), warehog, and even the tornado levels. However, I think the game is absolutely gorgeous and has a really good atmosphere, so I do enjoy watching someone else play it.

[@Majokodomo]

From what I heard, the team behind this game wanted to work on other projects so much that they basically treated this game as an afterthought and just released the game how it is and got the music from the Internet! This is unacceptable! Basically, this game failed because of pure laziness! That's just another slap to the face to fans, isn't it?!? >.

[@Ojunix]

I have to at least ask if you had to be stuck with 1 game on a island would it be Dark Brotherhood or 06?

[@STHSilqueira]

the fist time i played sonic chronicles was emulating on pc, and i was thinking the emulator or the rom file was corrupted because of the poor BGMs

[@papersonic9941]

I get a feeling part of the game's quality is that bioware is more well-known for making western RPGs, while this is one that plays mostly like a Japanese one.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Japanese RPG's have bad music and very poorly done gimmic based combat systems?

[@papersonic9941]

Of course not. I meant that Bioware wasn't really experienced with developing JRPGs

[@SteamyLinguini]

Clement you need, no you deserve a medal. To sit through a God awful game for that long just for us, you will truly be remembered as a hero. I gave this game a second chance and it kicked me in the groin for doing so. I hope future me doesn't make the same mistake.

[@jjc4924]

I would say of all the RPG games I've played, this is the absolute worst one I've ever played.

[@SuperPro6UYA33]

Finally Unleashed! I've been waiting for this for a long time.

[@PikaPicu]

Honestly, I've NEVER had problems with the 3DS' touch controls. I mean, yeah on 3rd part stuff, but not the keyboards, not navigating menus, not drag controls. I honestly think that Clement is just having personal issues that having nothing to do with the system.

[@Antonio-is2cn]

Clement just hates motion controls in his games in general, Sonic And The Secret Rings didn't even control as bad as he claims

[@PressPlayToJaysonArchives]

BioWare... If you ever do make a sequel to this game... Please, oh please, do it right!

[@Synergy_333]

Its not a great RPG by any stretch of the imagination, but I still had fun with it. I thought the writing was pretty damn good, it had me in stitches at times. But there are majors problems with it. The music sucks, and it was too long for its own good. But they obviously did a TON research for this and I can appreciate that. As a big Sonic Battle fan, I grinned like a dork when they brought up Emerl. I dunno, I plan on playing it again one day.

[@shadic700]

Cant wait till sonic unleashed. My favorite sonic game of all time. And yes. I did just say that. Problem?

[@BandwidthSlayer]

You have excellent taste in music.

[@PuppetMasterIX]

Isn't Sonic and the Black Knight usually considered part of the "Sonic Dark Ages"?

[@SwaxMain4u]

bought this game expecting something like M&L SS since its one of the greatest rpgs' ever made. hooo boy, was i wrong

[@alienwaregamerx2011]

Clement: Sonic Unleashed on the Xbox 360! Me: Yes! Finally! Clement: AND the Nintendo Wii. Me: NO. THIS ISN'T WHAT I ASKED FOR.

[@masterfrostino447x]

Your experience and my experience are the exact opposite. I started with Sonic Chronicles, and i loved it. The game you're breaking down was the game that got me into RPG's and stuff like that. However, I'm not the biggest fan of RPG's, even though I like them. So I can't really handle what people would call "good" RPG's. So I tried Final Fantasy, and I can't bring myself to play them again. Oh well, one man's treasure is another man's gold.

[@masterfrostino447x]

And about the stylus, it looks like you just aren't trying enough, which makes sense, due to your complaint about the game.

[@whatshappeninganymore2473]

I love that game, fuck the reviewer.

[@TomsSauce]

I like all the Battle references and stuff, I loved hearing about Emerl again

[@ZeoLightning]

back on topic with this game. this game disapoints me EVEN more knowing that THEY EXPLAINED the gizoids. YET there is no trace of Gemrl (emerl has passed by this point and sonic advance 3 happens) and its EVEN more of a missed oppertunity. this game looks like it couldve done the same skill customizing Sonic Battle Does and it disapoints me even more

[@MichaelOKeefe2009]

This is why I flushed it down the toilet.

[@notyourwaifu326]

I remember enjoying this game when I was 11. Being much older than that now, I probably would not enjoy it anymore.

[@neilwilson330]

I rather listen to sonic spinball's options music than listen to these glitchy atrocities.

[@userunknown3761]

Neil Wilson I've definitely played 100+ hours and never heard a glitch in audio?

[@neilwilson330]

Darragh Duffy I mean the music is piss poor it sounds like a GBA game with bad audio.

[@classiccustoms2010]

IKR. Green Hill Zone and (was it Death Egg?) were unrecognizable.

[@MarioFanaticXV]

Ugh... Bioware. One of the key companies responsible for killing WRPGs. Always known for making long dialogues with very little plot or character development. Neverwinter Nights was decent, but really was much better for fan-run multiplayer servers.

[@PTSDSquirrel]

Honestly and this is just me, but i feel that Sega doesn't even care about there star player anymore, they got their feelers hurt with 06 and then the "dark age" continued to make shoddy crud... But when unleashed came out people loved it so now that what Sega is doing. Unleashed games again and a again, but we are growing bored with it so now Sega is taking the sonic series in a new direction, as rogerregoroger puts it, exact opposite shadow the hedgehog, that is mostly aimed at literally the Millennials(kids under 14). But with the shit sales of SLoW...(in part cause the WIIU has one of the worst backings with publishers since the Atari Jaguar) Sega itself i feel has become disillusioned of there own Mascot. If things continue as i see the pattern of destruction... teh reboot that IS COMING will either, give this franchise new light and feeling, or go the way of Spyro the Dragon, and die a horrible death. Either way the coming horizon for my favorite franchise scares me, if sonic falls to obscurity, or worse gets changed in to kid shit. This franchise will have breathed it's last breath. Honestly i almost think Sega need to retire the blue dude, while the memories are still relatively nice, and go the Megaman X route, same world, same concept, new heroes. Then we know Sonic as we know him will be safe. I say this cause its apparent those two writers know about as much this franchise, as a cheerleader knows about Quantum Physics, and will drive this franchise to mediocrity faster then a remake of any famous anime.

[@narrat0r12]

Next video: "Let's look at Sonic comics, not Unleashed!"

[@TakumiEnferrujado]

i actually like this game (ultimate flame shield)

[@PrinceSolarLunarEclipse]

ICE BLAST!

[@MouseyGaang]

This is my favorite Sonic game to this day though :(

[@jballs5434]

I think people should play the game before they say it sucks. I understand why some may not like it, but I know what I'm talking about when I say that I think it's a good game. Some people like it, some people don't. Get over it, but THINK FOR YOURSELVES.

[@kanchomerocks12]

Jordan Scott this

[@Scorpionspear77]

You know how the stylus stuff could have been better? If you screw up part of a block, then you take more damage than the full block would but less than if you didn’t block, and if you screw up part of an attack, you deal less damage/restore less or have a higher chance of missing. It wouldn’t be great, but it’d be more fair

[@abc2390986]

First played chronicles and then unleashed. The difference between these two game is just too huge (in terms of presentation, graphics, pace, everything). Despite having flaws Unleashed is always my favorite Sonic game of all times.

[@KotoCrash]

Sonic chronicles was a dark forshadowing of the Bioware games that have recently come out