We need a chart that has back-drag, slop, and breaking strength. I'm sure there's some trade-offs.
@ToroMoto3 жыл бұрын
This would be very useful
@gabe1234567890ify2 жыл бұрын
Snap On, FHL80 not lubricated 8.0-9.0 Snap On, FHRX80A not lubricated 7.5-8.0 Snap On, FHRX80A lubricated 5.5-6.0 Motivx Tools, 144 positions 3.0-3.5 Matco BFR158LFB 6.0-6.5 Matco BFR118M 4.0-4.5 Tekton SRH01108 6.0-6.5 Tekton SRH11108 5.0 MAC Tools Axis XR1390LK 6.5 Cornwell RF72A 5.0-6.0 Craftsman 82-011 GM, 120 positions 6.0-8.0 inconsistant Craftsman 44815 , 46 tooth 7.0 Stanley 89-818B 4.0 Harbor Freight Pittsburg item 62328,64937 2.0 Harbor Freight Pittsburg Composite 62618 3.0-4.0 Harbor Freight Icon 56193, 90 tooth 5.0-6.0 Kobalt Tools 90T Flex Head 3.0-4.0 Capri Tools, 72 tooth 4.0-4.5 NAPA Carlyle CHT R38L90, 90 tooth 4.0-4.5 Cobra Steelman Pro 9.0-10.0 Not smooth Ares Hand Tools , 90 tooth item 42002 3.5 Gearwrench 90T 4.5-5.0 Gearwrench 120XP 5.0-6.0 Williams 36T 4.0 Milwaukee 90T 4.0-5.0 SK Tools 36T, item 45170 6.0 Wright Tools 3428 5.0-6.0 Husky Tools 100 position 5.0-6.0
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
What breakin ? Break over 150 ? None Break in the paws of a dolt ? All...mostly anvil failure above 200(qr dies first) or joint fail in flexers How about a breaker bar test to see what brands anvil fails earliest ? Google breaker bar. They still make them. I still use them daily. Noop. I don't "flat rate". I'm a tech, not a parts changer. I have the thirty to fifty year old ratchets still functioning well to show for it My 5249 has been spinning in 4 countries and a dozen states since....1953 or so. Never had a kit.
@MrSubaru13874 жыл бұрын
The winner ain't in the bunch. It's Ko-ken's Z-Series ratchets, hands down.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
It could be as it has a similar spring pawl design with less teeth on the pawls. It’s all about if it has less spring tension.
@480mesaguirre4 жыл бұрын
yep i agree hands down the ko-ken would've taken the crown in this test.
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
I love koken ratchets
@dummkompf4 жыл бұрын
mr subaru and clientgraphics need to get together to put this debate to rest! either mrsubaru needs to loan some of his koken ratchets to clientgraphics for testing, or clientgraphics needs to lend out the inch-ounce torque wrench to mrsubaru for testing. would make a good video!
@davehaggerty34053 жыл бұрын
Ko-ken 3726Z 72T only sold thru palmec (Ko-ken USA) It's 7" long flex non-locking with dedent when it's straight. A sprung ball holds it in the position you put it. Not quick release. 72 tooth. I got one this week. They're 3/8 only so far. Just released this January. Also available in 11" length as well. It is so very smooth. Like winding a watch! No play at all. Yet it feels really strong and beefy. I wouldn't hesitate to use a cheater pipe on it. The finish and chrome are impeccable. Backdrag is very light. Lighter than my 1/4" Snap-On. Plus, what looks like a quick release button on the back is actually the back of the gearwheel so you can put your thumb on it and stop any backdrag. Palmec website is cumbersome. I don't know about warranty My ratchet was about $100 shipped.
@someusername1212 жыл бұрын
If you ever redo this test, I'd love to send my Koken made-in-Japan ratchet for a loaner. It's obscenely low backdrag compared to any of the other ratchets in my collection. I think it's only a 36T though so the swing-arc is huge but holy hell it'll ratchet on a bolt that is completely unthreaded.
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
LOL.I always said they'd spin in a strong wind.
@llanbull Жыл бұрын
I didn't really get the importance of back drag until I read your comment. I always wonder why a lot of people are concern about it lol. TIL.
@drengskap Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, Koken ratchets are very, very smooth, even with having what seem by current standards to have very low tooth counts. Just goes to show that tooth count isn't the be-all and end-all of ratchet quality.
@jarrod16872 ай бұрын
Thanks I'm going to get one!
@rebellaxbro4 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting because from personal feel, snap on is the best FEELING ratchet. I’ve tried most of these being tested and none feel as good to use. I do highly agree with breaking them in, there’s a big difference in feel once broken in.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Feel is all really subjective, but if it doesn't feel good in the hand you won't use it which makes it worthless. Getting things to wear nicely and get through the break-in period is key. Hopefully I was able to demo that point in the video both with the Snap On and Matco tools.
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
Snap started doing real handles ? Ya know. Like Knurled !
@SignDuoChannel4 жыл бұрын
I think this control group is a bit flawed. To me, the snapon seems like the best in terms of back drag in my own use. However- I noticed that you use the bigger 3/8 snap ons which I have noticed carry more back drag. You should try out a TLLF72 with a 3/8 kit. To me, seems like that combination has the least drag (compared to Pittsburgh pro, I have that one as well).
@csboi4 жыл бұрын
Snap-on the best? You might want to give some German brands a try. I own ratchets from Hazet, Stahlwille, Snap-on and Gedore, and I'm quite sure all of them have noticably less back drag than the Snap-on Dual 80's. The Gedore U-20's blows everything out of the water IME, even the more "premium" German brands. (in Germany, Stahlwille and Hazet are known as their Snap-on, with Gedore just a bit behind but not by much, probably a Wright, Proto, Williams equivalent. Just not shiny, they don't like shiny tools in Germany)
@SignDuoChannel4 жыл бұрын
Justin B. I was referring strictly to the applied ratchet brands in the said video. I do agree that hazet has some nice tools! Edit: I have some.
@AATreeService3 жыл бұрын
@@csboi only problem is warranty. Not gonna ship, wait, email, call. Nope. I need a new ratchet, snap on comes Friday morning. Done deal. If it’s am emergency he will make a special trip. That to me is worth is weight in gold.
@cowboy412314 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone has a scientific way of proving then”smoothness” of ratchets, all these tools reviews spinning the ratchet by hand doesn’t prove the backlash grabbing in tight spots! Love my 120xp ratchets and snap-on 80 (the Snap-on suck when they are new, but they break in nicely 👍)..... in comparison I’ve had 120xp gearwrench spline wrenches, absolutely suck, all the backlash and back drag equate to my ATD platinum 72 tooth wrenches... awesome video!
@deltahawk10014 жыл бұрын
I find it works best to use grease on my coarse tooth ratchets, and oil on my fine tooth ratchets.
@forgedsteelwrench92494 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@gregc92204 жыл бұрын
The SK round head is my favorite and it is my go to ratchet in the tool drawer
@DanielTAGyota3 жыл бұрын
Can you get Japanese ratchets like Koken and Nepros and test their strength and smoothness?
@xXBurntBaconXx2 жыл бұрын
I've been told the Snap-On has more teeth engagement than most ratchets as well for added strength. Wondering if that makes it stiffer as well.
@funkingitup1805 Жыл бұрын
Ratchets with lots of teeth often have dual pawls. Overcoming them will probably cause more backdrag.
@sfx19994 жыл бұрын
The lightest backdrag ratchet I have is a Napa Evercraft quick release pear head. It's 24 tooth and appears to be based off of the old Proto mechanism. It's similar to the 72 tooth Pittsburgh Pro ratchets, but the levers are square on the end with no teeth. It seems lighter than my Pittsburgh Pro composite, which is very light already.
@shauncatlett60663 жыл бұрын
The Steelman Pro Cobra ratchet is rough because it isnt factory lubed. I found that adding Singers Machining oil into the ratchet helps make it alittle more smooth. Great job on the video either way!
@xx420jin69xx4 жыл бұрын
Curious how these results compare to some of the German brands like Wera, Stahlwille, Gedore, and Hazet
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
A new Hazet 8816p tested out at 8 inch ounces 😉
@Smillster4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. I have a wera zyklop round head ratchet and I feel like it's the smoothest that I own.
@dummkompf4 жыл бұрын
@@Smillster I'd love to see the wera tested, I've had my eye on one of those zyklops because I love roto ratchets. I think some of those ones like maybe the hazet, are made with more of a focus on being extremely stout, with less attention to backdrag
@husq21004 жыл бұрын
The Germans were the slowest to move to fine tooth gears
@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther27433 жыл бұрын
@@husq2100 Probably because they need so many specialty tools to fix their cars they didn't have time to make fine tooth gears.
@stansbruv3169 Жыл бұрын
That gunmetal craftsman looks SO GOOD though!
@justinoff1 Жыл бұрын
OMG ! Yes! I found the exact same thing. I own 20 ratchets mostly Matco but I recently purchased a 1/4 Pittsburg pro with the comfort grip and I would be surprised if it was over 1in oz of backdraft. It's mind boggling. Cheap springs for the win !!!
@chriswebb30184 жыл бұрын
When i clean my snap on and mac ratchets i mix super lube grease with the oil to get that perfect consistency. It works really well because the oil by it's self doesn't last long enough, being so thin it leaks out over time. And grease by its self is just a little to thick. Using both keeps the ratchet quite, smooth, & last the longest.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Great tool tip👍🏻
@AATreeService3 жыл бұрын
Chris I have a few snap on ratchets that are 10-12 years old that have turned probably nothing short of a million times. Just tested the back drag and it registered in less than one inoz
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
Well. Strap -On uses SUPER lube !!!! Because. They sell the crap. The Wright factory says light oil only.Ditto SK and kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6C8e32ga8R_r80
@rupunzel62994 жыл бұрын
Lubricant makes a BIG difference in ratchet friction aka "back-drag". Grease in ratchet mechanism can prevent pawl to gear engagement causing the ratchet to slip then shearing off a ratchet gear tooth. Ideal oil for ratchets is synthetic low viscosity motor oil. There is little if any advantage to that "Super Lube" stuff for ratchet mechanism. It does contain teflon which can cause deposits at the bottom of the ratchet gear and pawl resulting in slippage, just like grease.
@steveolive99913 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, we used ATF to lubricate the ratchet gears. Wonder what the "pull" difference is between ATF and synthetic oil?
@JohnBrinkPhoto4 жыл бұрын
I've used synthetic grease, synthetc ATF mixed 50/50 with 0w20 synthetic oil, and dry lubes over the years on ratchets. Simplest method is just a dose of light machine oil (which is generally mineral oil). I think Super Lube machine oil is either mineral oil or silicon oil with a wear additive so probably one of the best choices.
@semiprofessional84704 жыл бұрын
Definitely the way to go when it's cold.
@ryanscott2174 жыл бұрын
Matco uses marvel mystery oil. If you can do the same test with 1/4 ratchets would be awesome, as a professional mechanic, back drag in 1/4 drive is more critical than 3/8 drive
@hilltopmachineworks21314 жыл бұрын
I love my Cornwell hard handle 1/4". Bought it around 2003 and it is my go to in 1/4" ratchets.
@thatdude82472 жыл бұрын
The Pittsburgh ratchets really changed how I look at tools. And I pick my kobalt Stanley and hobo freight rachets before my snap on, Williams, SK, Mac proto stuff... I've never had any problems and they are way smoother and I don't cringe and cry everytime one falls on the floor from five feet up
@jeremyruff79614 жыл бұрын
I like the Carlyle over my others. Capri a close second but no locking feature on the flex head. Great video
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
There ok actually there all pretty good these days it's more about what you can afford and a warranty the manufacturer will stand behind. Turn over time is a big plus too Noone wants to wait 6 months to get a new ratchet .
@jeremyruff79614 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfrye1822 Gearwrench has made warranty process quick and simple replacinging your tool in less than a week.
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyruff7961 takes longer then a week at least for one 8mm that is. Then again I've only went that route once since the matco dealer started warrenty them for me . My go to sockets are still snap on but I've owned them for the last 30 years long before any of these companies made a comparable tool . I still have my great new Britain wrenches Bonney and armstrong among others and don't get me wrong I have any other import brands as well . As a matter of fact whole impact set is jobsite from tractor supply and lasted a few years now .not because there the best because I can read them ... I'm old and blind now lol .anyways there's allot good tools out there now compared to my 30 year old snap that gets warranty no questions asked .
@Richard19774 жыл бұрын
I have made it a standard to grease every new ratchet I buy with Super Lube grease so I know for sure that it is greased. Experience has learned that almost all ratchets are shipped without grease nowadays. This is part down to production costs AND part because of shipping regulations. Some of the smoothest rachets I have are Stanley MicroTough (Hi Five/New Tools design) ratchets. A pain to grease but so worth it! Once I returned 3 Proxxon (1/4, 3/8 and 1/2) socket sets because of the backdrag they had in ALL of the ratchets. The backdrag was and is completely caused by the spring that's holding the ratchet (round head design) together. Without that spring they are smooth as butter... They were replaced with Taiwan made Bahco S-serie socket sets. The included ratchets have a lot of backlash and are also a pain to grease because of the internals but so smooth afterwards...
@1010chris4 жыл бұрын
Headed to harbor freight to pick these up. My 1/4" craftsmen ratchet drives me nuts Every time I use it. Need two hands to get a fastener in.
@dummkompf4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you tested the Kobalt, I just picked one of those up today. It seems nice but my one gripe is that there seems to be a lot of slop between the forward and reverse directions, before it actually catches. The 90T ratcheting mechanism allows for a very low swing arm between each click, but when you initially reverse from the forward direction to reverse there's easily at least 5+ clicks worth of slop before it engages. so there may be only 4 degrees of swing before each click, but you've got to reverse it by like 20 degrees to get that first click.
@cowboy412314 жыл бұрын
dummkompf that’s exactly why teeth count don’t matter to me if there’s so much slop
@oatyfrye67584 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Another important variable is how far a ratchet twists before the first tooth click. Often the first tooth angle of twist is substantially different (better or worse) than the tooth count packaging claim (4deg, 5deg etc). I look forward to seeing you test that on your lovely collection.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I actually bought a digital angle finder months ago. It’s on the list of things to do👌🏻
@oatyfrye67584 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics you just got yourself a future view.
@fernixx1004 жыл бұрын
Love my gear wrench 3/8 120 tooth soft grip use it for everything!
@FAMOUSSLICKRICK4 жыл бұрын
Me my friend. 😎
@ronc4146 Жыл бұрын
Super Lube with PTFE added, or without? They have two versions.
@greapsoho2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done backdrag on any of these: hazet, stahlwille, gedore, nepros , tone, or ko-ken?
@blazebox714 жыл бұрын
I'm just spitballing here but I feel like some of the cheaper ratchets have less backdrag is due to there being less engagement of the pawls with the teeth of the ratchet so there is less force required to move it but that could also result in less overall strength but I could be wrong
@billlee17244 жыл бұрын
Was gonna comment the exact thing, Pittsburgh’s have the least backdrag because the tolerances are all to small
@blazebox714 жыл бұрын
@@billlee1724 I agree I just thought of it because I know for a fact that the snap on and mac ratchets have much bigger dual pawls than what was shown in his video when he was talking about the Pittsburgh which means they engage more of the drive gear at one time and there would logically be a correlation there in the amount of force required to move the gear
@billlee17244 жыл бұрын
Blaze Box oh yea I see what ya mean they also have the most engagement definitely
@HoIyGrail4 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I actually did this test before, with about 14 different brands of ratchets. All 3/8 quick release to keep the test Fair. Nepros came out on top, followed close by Harbor Freights Pittsburgh. The Snap-On 80, or the Kobalt didn't fare too well either for drag. The Craftsmen, thin polish profile did very well. The gearwrench did about the same as the Craftsman. Carlyle ratchet, was about half. I did it by myself last year, because I was pretty curious and I hate drag. There should be more test when it comes to drag on ratchets since that's extremely important in my opinion.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
What and how did you measure the back drag? I used inch ounces and I can tell you the forces are pretty dang small but there is definitely an average where things tend to fall.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a Nepros to test, sorry. My Craftsman 60 tooth USA thin profile 44995 tested out around 5 inch ounces.
@HoIyGrail4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics at the time I was at my friend's shop and we had about 14 bolts in a wall side by side, with all the ratchets placed. I then use a pulley system with pressure scale that my friend help me to design, from parts in from the shop. Basically I would do back clicks compare and compare each one, as it pulled back on the pulley scale. I was doing was just off the cuff so, you're testing method it's probably better. I wish there was a universal way to really do a good scientific tests.
@HoIyGrail4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics I believe mine was the Kobalt 72 gear 87697
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I did the 90t Kobalt ratchet item #337304 Model #85861in the video so you may or may not be surprised by the results. I tried a few homemade testers but it all came back to I still needed to calibrate it for a baseline accuracy or someone else being able to repeat the same test. No one way is best but there are definitely multiple variables that can affect the outcome. It’s so cool to know other people explore and share interest in these times of areas on all levels 👍
@mikefennema55614 жыл бұрын
To me minimum back drag is far more important than the high tooth count. My favorites are the old Proto pear heads. The mechanism is similar to the Pitsburg Pro with ultra low back drag.There is also minimal back lash.
@wesleythompson4512 жыл бұрын
PLEASE try Koken. Best ratchet for back drag, and it's not even close. Japan makes some high quality tools.
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
That's why Ko-ken did what he did.He took the Pl^mb-Proto and did what Grumpy Jenkins did to a small block Chevrolet to get 500 HP Ko-ken amounts, basically, to a balanced and blueprinted Proto-type pearhead.
@charlesshankle31784 жыл бұрын
I love my Matco 88s. Snap on is smoother, but I also have to consider slim profile, etc.
@goinhot91334 жыл бұрын
When your measuring this little of an amount, the grease and amount of it, will definitely change things. Crazy to see it in action and not just in theory
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
Grease plays a big part in resistance. Snap on uses a silicone compound or dielectric grease to rebuild there ratchets and takes a break in period for it to function effectively. I remove the grease or use as little as possible . Oil works good as well but sealed ratchets with oring tend to distort or swell as there not Viton. Unsealed ratchets I use marvel mystery oil to soak them in or wd40 especially if I use them to bleed brakes . I also use royal purple or even what Chris mentioned in his video.
@goinhot91334 жыл бұрын
Kevin Frye yeah your definitely over thinking it lol. Grease is grease oil is oil for the most part, long as there’s something in there.. it’s just a ratchet at the end of the day. Not a complex gear set that runs constantly lol
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
@@goinhot9133 not complex but if you bleed brakes with a non sealed ratchet and it gets inside it will rust . That is why I soak my ratchets . I also don't like rebuilt ratchets as I said my snap on dealer likes to pack the greasei in there and does not ratchet as easy so I remove most of it I'm not over thinking it simple fact is non sealed ratchets will fill with contamination if not cleaned soaked oiled or greased . It doesn't have to be brake fluid I've dropped a ratchet or two in a cooling drain pan a time or two as well and oil or grease makes them wheel go around not rust .
@ToroMoto2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a summary table of the results?
@dutchynehtam4 жыл бұрын
I have most of these ratchets except for the Carlyle. Should I add one to my box or pass. My usual go-to is my Duralast or Snap-On. I love both lol
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need it but you want it. Once you have it, it’s not life changing. It’s only money...... But seriously put it on your wishlist for Christmas
@bricegraham82562 жыл бұрын
I died when you pull out the drill and say now we're just gonna burn this in a little bit.
@josefelix41524 жыл бұрын
The 1/4 Flex head Pittsburgh professional is the smoothest I've ever had
@rebellaxbro4 жыл бұрын
I agree but the ratcheting mechanism feels kinda “chinesy” if you know what I mean.
@dr74774 жыл бұрын
Same here. So smooth. I love that ratchet. For $15 with coupon and lifetime warranty you can't lose.
@josefelix41524 жыл бұрын
The mechanism did feel funky at first but about half a year ago I took it apart and put super lube in it, and ... It still feel like it's gonna break, but it doesn't lol, and the one reason it's my go to is because it is very very slim
@ricktrue3 жыл бұрын
@@josefelix4152 -
@georgeferlazzo79364 жыл бұрын
Hello again Chris After a brief search on the internet, there are a lot products calling itself "Super Lube". Which one is the best for keeping my tools working? Thank you for another Great Video
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
super lube 51004 synthetic oil for the fine tooth ratchets just a few drops and the other for coarse tooth or what Snap on uses super lube 21030 synthetic grease
@TONYSTARK-jh2wu4 жыл бұрын
Great video just don't know how it helps when buying a ratchet. I mean 90 percent of the time I'm using an electric ratchet or impact the only time I grab a ratchet is to break something lose or to really tighten it.
@rebellaxbro4 жыл бұрын
I wanna disagree but this is 100% correct😂
@jdmDC2ftw4 жыл бұрын
Why did you oil and run the snapon ratchet but didnt do that to the other newer tools?
@AATreeService3 жыл бұрын
U should totally do a video on click engagement. That’s a huge one when in tight quarters. I’ve seen plenty of 72 tooth quality ratchets click and grab in less space than a 120. I have some snap on and some cheaper brands that seem to do better as they age.
@parkermize Жыл бұрын
How do the zyklop weras stack up?
@edtheoldtechguy4 жыл бұрын
Chris great video! Why does KZbin continue to unsubscribe me or take off notifications?
@dummkompf4 жыл бұрын
I've been hearing a lot of raving about a couple japanese brands of ratchets, koken and nepros. Both are said to be as good or better than snap-on, with virtually 0 backdrag. I'd love to see these claims put to the test and compared to other ratchets if you could get your hands on some of those!
@tommynch51254 жыл бұрын
why no dewalt? ive had good results with there ratchets, sockets and such.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I had to cut it back and can’t test everything. Dewalt tested between 5.0 - 6.0 inch ounces
@tommynch51254 жыл бұрын
I understand thanks for the reply 👍
@sheepdogoutdoors70063 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to send you tools for testing?
@25centsapop3 жыл бұрын
I've been so happy with my new mac 3/8 for that exact reason
@DS-wt7ul4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Have you had any experience with KAIFNT? They seem to be producing good quality tools. I suspect their tools are rebranded by other companies; KAIFNT ratchets and breaker bars looks familiar. Kobalt? Thanks
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t heard of them. Looks like they filed a trademark for the brand last year 2019-08-20 so maybe new to the US market and Amazon?
@DS-wt7ul4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics They look a lot like Lowes Kobalt. They make a nice looking digital torque adapter too. Take care
@PhillipDrumz4 жыл бұрын
Dude great video- I love how you showcased nearly every brand!!! I love German tools also
@The3chordwonder4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this, I was really curious about this. Definitely cool that you saw a direct relationship with the ratchet/pawl type. I just bought a Crescent 60T ratchet and it is quite nice, but not as smooth as others. I took it apart and used some ATF fluid to lube it up, wiped off the excess and worked it a bit. As your results show for the Snap-on, it definitely helped. That being said, I think a Pittsburgh Pro is in the future for me. It might not have the holding capacity (I'll have to review the other vids again) but some times you need to have an ultra low drag to get off the pesky fastener that is impossibly difficult to use your fingers to get to. I read about how "butter smooth" the snap-ons were, it was interesting to see the relatively poor results. It was also interesting to see the ratchets that had a stable back drag rating instead of the others that bound up, then released a lot of tension, only to be bound up again.
@AATreeService3 жыл бұрын
U should seriously try Vaseline instead of a fluid oil. U well be amazed
@mr.3phase2284 жыл бұрын
You guys got gray tools in the states?
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, not in my area. Just Gray Pneumatic which is different and mostly impact stuff and made in Taiwan.
@richb22294 жыл бұрын
The Snap-on results surprised me a little but I don’t own any of them. Everything else was what relatively where I thought they would be. HF ratchets are such a great value, strength, durability, and smoothness. Obviously they aren’t the best but they have a place in my toolbox. I didn’t know about the superlube oil, I have to get some of that! Been using 3 in 1 oil or superlube grease.
@ratchetwise440 Жыл бұрын
""HF ratchets are such a great value, strength, durability, and smoothness."" Hmmm Engrish is my third language . My tranducificator says = best. Odd ;-)~ I guess the only thing they fault is a fat boy with a truck who delivers and finances ? ;-)~
@mckeeganator58444 ай бұрын
I have the wright ratchet and they don’t come oiled as they say they should but once you oil them they become BUTTER smooth
@carlseiler64414 жыл бұрын
Curious as to what this means when using it. Are we talking about it not turning the bolt backwards from the desired direction? Are we talking fatigue? Why is this important?
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
It basically means the friction in the ratchet is greater than the nut and thread so it’s time to switch and use your finger to run it off or on.
@boosted2.4_sky4 жыл бұрын
That Williams is exactly like my BluePoint...exact same ratchet... it's a nice smooth ratchet...I like it.. I have most of those ratchets that you have there...
@GLI_170111 ай бұрын
I own the Pittsburgh pro low profile ratchet and it is a wonderful tool only paid 13 bucks for it on sale and I've yet to find a ratchet that performs better than that one
@DonBMW4 жыл бұрын
+1 for the Pittsburgh pro on back drag, but that comes at a price since the selector tends to move. My GearWrench 84T is also great on back drag and very strong.
@jocarr17914 жыл бұрын
Slip a small rubber band or O-ring over the selector switch so it's sandwiched between the switch and the ratchet head to keep it from moving so easily...it works well for me...
@ToroMoto3 жыл бұрын
Overall good testing in this video but the video would be 10x more useful if you included a summary chart/graph like on Project Farm videos.
@prabodhsangiorgio39124 жыл бұрын
Hi client graphic, good test. I suggest you to include japanese brands like ktc nepros or koken.
@promod94404 жыл бұрын
I like the snap on just because it don’t switch directions when ratching
@maxwellhouse19024 жыл бұрын
I'd love to test my old MAC M3R flex head 1/4" drive. The head wobbles a bit, but I'm not gonna put 50 ft./lbs. of torque on it either. I could likely sneeze on the square drive and it might move a click or two.....lol. I think I have an old Snappy inch ounce dial torque unit somewhere in the snappy collection chest. A 40 year old rat and a new one would be comparing apples to oranges though.....
@jeffwolf8018 Жыл бұрын
You didn't do Koken or Bacho?
@thomastommy11924 жыл бұрын
Does Craftsman still honor the Life Time Warranty on their tools? Awesome video thanks for sharing.
@mlacher1002 жыл бұрын
Yes they do, I have taken back sockets to ace hardware and returned a ratchet for a coworker at Lowes.
@ryanpeterson29904 жыл бұрын
Great innovation from Chris. I think I know which one it is. It may surprise people
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Gearless ratchets were not tested, nor have they ever been harmed during any testing. The one gearless ratchet I have reads about 1 inch ounce which I just tested.
@Bshwag4 жыл бұрын
i would really like to know what my new wera speed ratchets do they feel very light. I also have the 72 both version of the Kobalt ratchet and I'm sad to think it won't be produced anymore its super nice and strong for the price.
@jeffpecen13053 жыл бұрын
I was always made to understand that Kobalt were actually manufactured by Snap-On. Anyone out there who can confirm this???
@Bshwag3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffpecen1305 I heard that to and if they did was a long time ago, I have a set of pass through ratchets that are pretty nice and I recently found out were made for Kobatl by Gear Wrench.
@jeffpecen13053 жыл бұрын
@@Bshwag thanks for helping me confirm that I was not senile or krazy regarding that rumor! WOW, I just finished watching a video review about a set of locking flex head wrenches made by non other than..GEAR WRENCH!!!
@jeffpecen13053 жыл бұрын
@@Bshwag my 20yr old Kobalt torque wrench still works like new...VIVA LA KOBALT!!!
@pablopopovich17624 жыл бұрын
I wish a koken was included, thats they’re claim to fame. Good cross section of common brands. Good job!
@MrSubaru13874 жыл бұрын
Ko-ken Z-Series definitely is far beyond anything in this video.
@pablopopovich17624 жыл бұрын
MrSubaru1387 Yes the zeal series are light but I think their standard 24t is as light or lighter. I ordered one of the standard ratchets with the knurled grip to see.
@pablopopovich17624 жыл бұрын
MrSubaru1387 thanks for your Japanese tool haul videos. I didn’t know you could order from Amazon japan. I have been going through Franks tools, hes cheap but not a huge selection.
@MrSubaru13874 жыл бұрын
@@pablopopovich1762 you're welcome. Stay tuned. Another Japanese tool haul was delivered yesterday. Video coming sson. More Ko-ken and TONE.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how much difference there really would be that the user of the tool would humanly be able to notice. A gearless ratchet tests around .5 - 1 inch ounce and thats because the user can’t hold a prefect 90° causing fluctuations in a fastener or nut to bind and drag threads. I’d rather do a 1/4 drive test with maybe a 2725Z or something similar.
@JuanGarcia-kk3ux4 жыл бұрын
Wher to buy that oil u used
@xaytana4 жыл бұрын
Curious of what a gearless ratchet would do, in theory they should have the lowest back-drag. I know a handful of companies have them, but I'm not sure how many OEMs/ODMs make them, so there's possibly a few varying designs out there.
@jaybee23444 жыл бұрын
Great video! I don't think anyone else has thought up such test.. 🤔
@09NXN064 жыл бұрын
Numbers don't lie thanks Chris! I'm definitely surprise by the brands outcome with the least back drag.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the numbers make you feel really good and sometime we’ll they can’t be unseen. They are what they are.
@HoIyGrail4 жыл бұрын
Man good tool. I didn't know they made something like this. I wish I would have known this existed back then. Interesting enough, you pretty corroborated my findings on the Pittsburgh ratchet.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
The Seekonk S0-12 Vertical Torque Gauge Screwdriver 0-12 in. ozs will run you about $130 to 148.30 so it’s not the cheapest way to test tools just for fun.
@HoIyGrail4 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics True, true. But sometimes I find expense doesn't trump knowledge. For me, I'll pay the money just for the love of the science. 😏
@Hipsters_N_Hippies4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I wish that more companies (like ICON) used o rings kinda like how snap on has been to seal the internal gearing. It Keep in the lubricant, keeps out the debris. also the o rings helps keep the anvil from wiggling about. the Pittsburgh pro ones do have exceptional anvil slop. Mostly Because their washers are only 1/3 - 1/2 as thick as they should be. So usually the hearing gets off angle. And we only a half of the teeth are actually in proper mesh. So it’s possible that my Pittsburgh Pro ratchet may hold up to more Tq than one just grabbed off of the shelf. (3 washers)
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
You should try koken z-eal ratchets
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
You know what ratchet I haven't seen you test is the friction type / gearless ratchets that titan makes 18202 I use a 1/4 one on blend door motors . I'm sure other companies make them too . As long as your talking smooth .
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
I tested a gearless Kobalt 3/8” and it was 1 inch ounce I posted it on Instagram in the teaser video to this at the very end.
@kevinfrye18224 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics I ment just those type of ratchets in a group test I'm sure there's more then colbat . I do find the test results interesting but also find real world results don't always yeild your results especially tools that are used appropriately . I get it these are test constructed to be consistent but lets say a 300lb guy is hanging from.a ratchet vs a 100lb guy who's ratchet is going to last longer ? That 30olb guy is going to say man that ratchet was smooth I dint feel a thing when it broke .... I could have farted sideways and broke that .
@williamdavis9224 жыл бұрын
I use Superloob on all my ratcheting tools as well
@rudydaberry122 Жыл бұрын
Who has the smoothest clicking ratchet? The smoothest I have felt is the 120xp gearwrench one
@stucaan4 жыл бұрын
This was great! I like on your other tool test videos when you put all the test results side by side from best to worse at the end of testing. Will you do a test on back drag for ratcheting screwdrivers?
@thejeepinrealtor57427 ай бұрын
I have that Carlyle ratchet. It’s become My go to. Smoother than my Marcos and lighter back drag than my snap on
@RenegadesGarage4 жыл бұрын
ClientGraphics.... Cool video. Thanks for taking the time to do it and sharing it.. I like the thumbs down thing you did there, that was funny.
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks buddy!
@_P0tat07_4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I’ve always found snap on ratchets to be glass smooth. I’m quite disappointed they gave such high results.
@upnorth54654 жыл бұрын
In the real world it doesn't amount to anything. Snap on and matco have the best internals and the least amount of back lash which is way more important.
@CapeSIX4 жыл бұрын
its the duel paw design, It always has 7 teeth under spring tension engaged with the 80 tooth drive. Also Snap-on has wider paws that engage the who with of the drive to reduce risk of slippage. Yes im a Snap-On dealer and I would double down and say your knuckles safety is worth it.
@Modifier734 жыл бұрын
Koken in the test?
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, no Koken ratchet tested. Maybe one day.
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
@@ClientGraphics I'm excited to watch koken test
@CPthetooladdict4 жыл бұрын
Mac axis definitely have the smoothest backdrag
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
It is a smooth ratchet, however I probably need to break-in the one’s I have more to make them the smoothest they can be😉
@michaelmangino98194 жыл бұрын
Cps, rite. Milwaukee is the smoothest. I have all. Milwaukee wins homy
@kevincameron11634 жыл бұрын
What up CP
@billlee17244 жыл бұрын
CP!
@MrSubaru13874 жыл бұрын
Sorry CP, Ko-ken's Z-Series is far beyond anything else I've used, in terms of back drag.
@Mzandiotis4 жыл бұрын
Basically all this is measuring is the stiffness of the spring responsible for keeping the pawl in contact with the anvil wheel and for the most part is completely inconsequential in the real world. Also, I wouldn't necessarily equate a lower back drag number with smoothness. I feel like smoothness is more so related to the the quality, cut, and meshing of the pawl and anvil wheel teeth. A low back drag number just means a minuscule amount less force is needed to reach the next rotation point on a fastener. Keep the reviews coming, maybe try to work on a bolt extractor or flex head ratcheting wrench video.
@mark0shark04 жыл бұрын
Wish you had a Koken ratchet, by far the lowest back drag ratchet I've even owned
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
Koken Z series ratchets I love it
@thecollector66292 жыл бұрын
My powertorque gm6179 has barely any back drag and again my 72 tooth ko-ken z series
@michaelmangino98193 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee makes a super smooth ratchet. And kTS . Also GW120xp and the SATA120xp -same ratchet are also super smooth. As well as the 84 and 90tooth GW.
@dougbrook62233 жыл бұрын
I haven't oiled my ratchets in many years... luckily I only use them daily for a profession. Personally I like the gear wrench xp, but it is hard to beat the snapon ratchets after many years of abuse and zero maintenance ever.
@yamisw11f4 жыл бұрын
I’m Japanese Ko-ken zeal 3725z is very useful
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
Smoothest back drag
@calvinjohnson23824 жыл бұрын
To me the Japanese nepros or German stahlwille but prices on those are expensive
@nathalialavelle16034 жыл бұрын
Koken
@calvinjohnson23824 жыл бұрын
@@nathalialavelle1603 100% agree, forgot about Koken Zeal range, probably the smoothest ratchets out there
@Duey_diditGarage4 жыл бұрын
Good ole amsoil makes a good lube for them as well use the air tool oil
@Knifeaddictdillon4 жыл бұрын
How many ratchets in total do you own?
@ClientGraphics4 жыл бұрын
Too many, but never enough. It's in the hundreds.
@antilaw99113 жыл бұрын
I go for how quiet the ratchet is. I have all brands. Quietest i have is Carlyle. Yes i mixed with super lube and red grease. Cant even hardly hear it. Crsftsman gun metal 120 and gearwrench 120xp are my top notch! Remember dont mix grease too thick because pawls will stick.
@towboatjeff4 жыл бұрын
I knew the steelman ratchet wasnt going to do very well. I just picked up the 2 piece set and wasnt impressed with its backdrag.
@gonadiator Жыл бұрын
koken makes the best quality hand tools ive ever used
@adamaj744 жыл бұрын
That Matco at 2:31 is 5 inch ounces, not 4-4.5.
@phillipbainbridge91074 жыл бұрын
I have no clue as to why Taiwanese tool manufacturers think a higher tooth count will make a better ratchet. It doesn't, but inexperienced buyers will see 120 and think it's better than 72 or 80. 80 is the highest I will ever need. I mean I still use an 18 tooth Snap-on. Interestingly enough those Stanley ratchets are the same ones that were rebranded and put in the MAC Jesse James sets. Also, the Williams ratchet you have is identical to the Blue-Point BPRFR938 it's just rebranded. As far as overseas made ratchets they're probably some of the better-made ones available. Those Matco ratchets you have there are probably the best of the bunch though. I would say the Snap-on are a close second.
@216mechanic24 жыл бұрын
Yea those snap on ratchets back drag be killing me with the back drag. M go have to try the oil now
@Eggomania864 жыл бұрын
I have the proto precision 90 which is the same as the MAC axis, to me it's probably the smoothest I've owned and used. I've used Harbor Freight, Craftsman, Kobalt, Gearwrench and Williams USA made 36 tooth, which has the same mechanism as the old Snap-On 936 ratchets. I also have the SK ratchet that came with my 48 piece socket set. For me it's a tie between SK and Gearwrench as a second. I find ICON and Williams comparable. That's my experience, my mileage and how I use ratchets and how it feels to me. I think it also comes down to preference, and the industry or application you use your ratchet.
@michaelmangino98194 жыл бұрын
Proto Mac yes very sim..👍
@zachb55084 жыл бұрын
Damn I was wrong. I have only a couple Snap-On Dual 80's and they feel the best to me but, the numbers don't lie. boys!