Cliffe Classics #12 - Give Me an Answer

[@mikerukavina4551]

Same questions. Generation after generation. People arguing themselves into unbelief and eternity in outer darkness.

[@Kaiokenx4_]

I love these early 2000s ask cliff videos. I think you can clearly see the ability of the students to say exactly what they think and state clearly how they feel, isn’t hindered by their fear of being canceled or mocked for their point of view like it is in todays students at todays university.

[@ammonbakarri-o5524]

Be yourself I mean in school here we use to have debates about homosexuality and trans at birth science panels

[@mnsohseven]

1997

[@builderphill1361]

Do you not watch his current ones?

[@VainFriggus]

1997

[@VainFriggus]

@@builderphill1361he’s a lot more experienced and uses different style now and has some more developed answers

[@lilbasedboi]

Sometimes it feels like Cliffe is talking right at me!

[@heidils8152]

I hate/love it when that happens

[@eben2plus3]

It's because we are confronted by the truth of the gospel

[@rwjws2689]

Are you a believer?

[@rwjws2689]

​@@heidils8152 mom?

[@heidils8152]

@@rwjws2689 yes I’m a believer. No, I’m not your mom 😆

[@dillondontplay]

I love this man fighting on the front lines

[@adamturner8732]

Cliffes explanation to the young black man on free will and God's role along side his omni presence and eternal nature was excellent.

[@ammonbakarri-o5524]

I was student here that guy was a masters student like 32 he is former military infantry

[@xLadii_Vixenx]

I could seriously listen to Brother Cliffe all day!!! ❤

[@skylo7437]

I from Kenya and live in Germany and would like to say you are doing a good job being patient and giving answers to the questions asked. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you, strengthen you and continue to increase your wisdom ,knowledge and understanding of His word that you may continue having fruitful discussions with all people you have discussions with. May you be increasingly fruitful in all your goings and when Our Lord Jesus Christ comes we (all who believe in Him and continue to live humbly, pursuing holiness and increasingly serving and calling every person to believing in Jesus Christ ) will receive eternal life forever and amen.

[@tituskiptoo1664]

Jambo kaka, I am from Kenya too, enjoying this cliffe

[@Hercules674]

Whoever hears of the word has heard of God. Thank you cliffe, you’ve helped me in my faith and in sharing the faith. Keep at it good sir

[@jasonnoble7302]

Praise Allah

[@Hercules674]

@@Theo_Skeptomai I have. For it is by experience that I see the evidence. I’ve been studying the bible for a while, though thankfully I got to grow up in a church, and through its knowledge I can be as free as ever! Though I’ve still a lot more to learn. Might I suggest to try reading and understanding the gospels and if there’s ever a trial you’re having, see that as God and once you lean on him for help, based on his timing, then when the blessings come, then that there is more evidence you would receive. Have a good Godly day

[@Hercules674]

@@Theo_Skeptomai it was an assumption. To which on my end I apologize. And my thinking led me off in that course of determination. Other than that, I would suggest evidence in experience

[@Hercules674]

@@Theo_Skeptomai you know the values and have been an evangelical for years yes? Then why not continue? And in regards to what I meant in terms of experience, I meant your own experience. Experience it for yourself, though you’ve greatly expressed that, and to really dig into the experience. Hoping that you’ve a wonderful day wherever you are and God bless you and keep you

[@lianadotjpeg]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Experiences are not subjective if they actually happened. If your friend got slapped by a stranger on the street and they shared this information with you, what happened to them is objectively true--whether or not you personally witnessed it happen. It's just up to you to trust the factual information that they've shared or reject/be skeptical about it.

[@oskarslidums5163]

Men like Cliff are helping to hold the world togeather.

[@ryanmacmaster9074]

These are truly classics.You got to love it...I love the aggressively soft Cliffe

[@jessemitchem3880]

This would be REALLY good if it continued from where it cut off. It was going amazing. If you hold yourself to putting up everything, and commit to getting better then your school visits will get so good they won't let you back onto campus!

[@inolsrpinto5998]

Thanks for teaching pastor...My greet from Timor Leste

[@duaneporter2061]

Man cliffe only has 132k subscribers... such good info everyone needs to see this no matter what they believe.

[@tituskiptoo1664]

Come back and see how many he got now

[@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024]

​@@tituskiptoo1664Wow, it's over 500% what it was when Duane commented - that's awesome!

[@Peter-S-J]

God bless you I learn so many biblical truth from the video.

[@CristianMartinez-du2rf]

Dang I was only 1 year old when this episode aired and I’m now 24. God bless you Cliffe and Stuart 🫡

[@Drjoe1985]

One of my favorite cliff videos to date

[@OrangePumpkin150]

Fantastic message. Good work

[@theknighttemplar8177]

He really is a inspiration ❤️ 4:43

[@deezyXII]

My Lord and my God forever and ever 🙏🏽 ❤

[@c-qpo]

Well done Cliffe..well done

[@mikeyh5059]

Amazing Cliffe

[@brendalbrown4811]

Nice message.

[@rodrigodasilva7862]

And even then it's still not good enough so many people don't understand is such a mystery the Bible I have the Holy Spirit in me thank God I'm able to understand these things but it's a beautiful mystery and the best thing in the world is to live for him

[@1dylanflowang]

he’s a jew but he doesn’t believe books that are written more than 2000 years ago? how can he believe the OT?

[@Forgivenmuchlovingmuch]

Love that first guy’s question!

[@knewsome05]

Where we smarter back then ??? These questions are great

[@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024]

I'm not sure. Sure seems we were more grounded, though - wiser.

[@ebs6286]

More clasic video please

[@philipscalf9147]

Because God knows what you are going to do does not mean he’s making you do it.

[@edstone7676]

All Christians carry the message when when we are ever asked. Why we have this hope in us. We are commanded. To share the gospel.

[@nishan1ramdass83]

Cliff is on a different level the guys brilliant

[@conot4006]

An easy way to explain. God's perspective is imagine if you already watched a movie and now you are watching it again with a friend. Since you already know the end, does that mean you directed the movie? Does that mean you told the actors what to do and say?

[@Zacharythorsen]

It all starts with a step of faith. Once we trust in Jesus, even if we’re unsure, we will over time experience his presence and his blessings. At that point we have our own encounter with Jesus and we know for sure he is the Risen King.

[@griffisjm]

The amount of people who believe that the bible has been translated over and over in some game of telephone truly blows my mind.

[@jackalsgate1146]

The amount of Christians who never read the Book of Ezra; whereby, it is said that he rewrote the books of Moses from memory (after they were lost), blows my mind.

[@griffisjm]

@@jackalsgate1146 With all due respect, THAT IS A LIE! The book of Ezra says NO SUCH THING, nor anywhere else where Ezra is mentioned, Kings, Chronicles, Nehemiah. From the very first mention of the name Ezra, he is called a SCRIBE!! The job of a scribe was to copy and preserve the Law and they did this meticulously by copying. It absolutely NEVER says he wrote the books nor does it say by memory. You are either confused or just lying and I just re-read the book of Ezra in hopes of finding what could be causing you this problem but nowhere does it even insinuate that. You need to learn to read in context, though in this case you can't even take it out of context cause it never says that. Second, even if that was the case that says nothing to the veracity of what's written, even if he had written it, which he didnt, it's completely possible he did it right. Even if it was a game of telephone you don't know whether it was passed on right or not and in ancient near east culture where tradition was passing things down we know that the people of the day were very skilled and accurate. Third, the issue raised by the students in this video and almost always by anyone making this ridiculous "telephone" claim is not about the torah or even books of the old testament and about the new testament and the Life of Christ and can we really trust that what's written is what they saw. They make a ridiculous argument that it has been translated over and over and things get lost in translation yet we know that's not true cause we have the original manuscripts and multiple versions and copies at that. The translations are not done one from the other and are done by the Manuscripts themselves. Its an elementary argument that has been proven baseless time and again.

[@jackalsgate1146]

@@griffisjm Maybe you should actually read the Old Testament. I just love how Christians say: the truth will set you free; until, they get pissed off because of the truth and then they call you a liar. According to the Old Testament the Ark of the Covenant was lost three times and inside the Ark was kept the Law of Moses also called the Mosaic Law, which refers to the Torah or the first five books of the Hebrew Bible. The last time; however, it was never recovered. For it is certainly a fact of history, based on the confessions of the Jews themselves, that: The Scriptures having perished in the captivity of Nabuchadrezzar, Esdras, the Levite, the priest, in the times of Artaxerxes, king of the Persians, having become inspired, in the exercise of prophecy restored again the whole of the ancient Scriptures. One must have a strong belief in Esdras, and especially in his good faith, to accept the now-existing copies as genuine Mosaic Books; for: assuming that the copies, or rather phonographs which had been made by Hilkiah and Esdras, and the various anonymous editors are without intent. There has never been original Mosaic scrolls, after they were lost to the sands of time. What could remain of the original writings of Moses, if such ever existed, when they had been lost for nearly 800 years and then found when every remembrance of them must have disappeared from the minds of the most learned, and Hilkiah has them re-written by Shaphan, the scribe? When lost again, they are re-written again by Ezra; lost once more in 168 B.C. the volume or scrolls were again destroyed; and when finally they reappear, we find them dressed in their Masoretic disguise. We may know something of Ben Chajim, who published the Masorah of the scrolls in the fifteenth century; however, we can know nothing of Moses, this is certain.

[@ShopharTemple]

People denying the Lord Jesus Christ because of lack of physical evidence, haven't given Him the praise and prayer He deserves, in which He will show Himself to you. He has with me. And He has changed my life completely. God bless. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ abound in you all.

[@ephemeralenhancement9445]

When people disregard the Bible as historical just because it's the Bible, I get so upset! Nobody sat down and wrote this long book called "The Bible". Rather, it's a collection of historical documents. Different people from the time of Christ wrote the gospels; they don't suddenly become non-historical once they are compiled together in a book! That guy believing in the historical evidence of Jesus Christ because of the gospels but denying Jesus Christ rising from the dead because it's only in the gospels, has got to be one of the most brain-dead responses I've ever seen someone give to Cliffe! No wonder he got so upset! Praise the Lord.

[@jasonnoble7302]

The bible is not a history book It’s fictional

[@trumpbellend6717]

Lol you do realise that we have a whole genre called "HISTORICAL FICTION" it will include details of real places real people even incorporating real events all interwoven with a FICTIONAL narrative 😂😂😂

[@ephemeralenhancement9445]

@@trumpbellend6717 there's nothing in the Bible indicating that it's historical fiction

[@SHADOWSCOOp2829]

My god my god is good 🙏🏼

[@dmarkusgarcia1995]

Pure facts!

[@elijah1047]

I hated this ending so much, that felt like the absolute worst time to stop the video, especially when the next one posted won’t pick up where this one left off

[@giarose6493]

Amen 🙏

[@Forgivenmuchlovingmuch]

People asked about the East but they are ignorant of the fact the gospel started in the East and right now the East is experiencing revival. The churches in the East are growing at a very rapid rate.

[@wtfgrooves3268]

Where can I find the rest of the dialog??? I have to hear this line of thinking!!

[@paulwilfridhunt]

Are we losing our ability to appreciate beauty. Regrettably many men are not content with women’s lovely faces. It disgraces a man who doesn’t understand that women dislike lust but like love.

[@Forgivenmuchlovingmuch]

24:24 The Dead Sea scrolls were discovered in our time and from my understanding when compared to modern translation are almost identical ~ nothing significant can challenge our modern translation and these scrolls predict the coming of Jesus, both the first and second comings. In the book of Isaiah, we read the culmination of the earth and what will happen in the last days, the days we have been in for a long time and it’s rapidly winding down even now. I believe God preserved His words, specifically these scrolls for our time.

[@masriembing70]

With Jesus christ you look so young love good for healthy

[@Forgivenmuchlovingmuch]

22:07 “His Spirit testifies with our Spirit that we are the children of God.” It is by faith. In the end, it is by faith we believe on Jesus. He said blessed are those who without seeing believe. There’s an inner peace and through our prayers, God confirms He is with us because He hears us. When I pray according to His will and then see the answers to those prayers, it elevates my faith. When I read His word and His word testifies to all that is going on around me, it is also a confirmation God is with me. Jesus said no one can come to Him unless the Father draws them. It’s supernatural and that’s why it can never satisfy an intellectual. Scripture clearly tells us the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God. He destroys the wisdom of the wise.

[@sarahknechtle5925]

yes!!

[@billyholly]

A good definition I've heard is any action that separates us from God, creating distance between ourselves and Him.

[@bonnie43uk]

Hey billy, how you doing?, hope all is well with you?

[@billyholly]

@@bonnie43uk Doing very well! Our school will be four days long this week and I will get to visit my family in The Netherlands for a week. Last Friday afternoon, we had a talent show at school and I got to have some fun with messing up singing "Born Free," followed by radio interference and then "Born to be Wild" came on. I started rocking out and you should have seen the jaws drop of the whole school. All sorts of phones came out and quite a few people were filming. It was a blast!

[@billyholly]

@@bonnie43uk How's all with you?

[@bonnie43uk]

@@billyholly I remember going to see the movie "Born free" in the early 70's as a kid, great film, based on a true story, and the theme song is also very memorable, one of Matt Munro's greatest hits. Good to hear you're doing well, England played Ukraine today in a big soccer match at Wembley, 10,000 Ukrainians there to support their team.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@billyholly All is well here, thanks.

[@repentancenow]

29:18 I heard some orthodox Jewish leaders forbid the Isaiah 53 chapter from being read

[@grantrogers1858]

To the fella at 28:30 1 1 Corinthians 1 20-31 Jews seek a sign and Greeks seek knowledge but it is a stumbling block to them because the gospel doesn't appeal intellectually or sensually, but is faith based.

[@MrRome201063]

Cliff is talking clear has possible! It is just everyone wants their own agenda to be right or their own dogma to be right just so that they can do what they freelt want to do.

[@jasonnoble7302]

Everyone can freely do whatever they logically can Your comment doesn’t make sense

[@jaybo420]

People ask the questions over and over, maybe a different way but same. Probably for 2k yrs I had same arguments. I see now from this side of it. Mostly I never really ask a question I wanted to be right,

[@austinpernice968]

@cliffe, you have to come to Suny Oneonta campus! The students there need to hear what you have to say. Too many people mock the lord and fulfill their wants and needs in sin.

[@Murk_Matter]

Why cant kids now be like kids then they are having a respectful conversation where they have good arguments and try to find where their arguments weaken or wither

[@wingscandyman]

And I was really getting into that one

[@hablaf12]

God is sovereign, and man is held responsible

[@stevebob8398]

Cliff, I have to ask, when is it appropriate to not speak about God? Jesus said, "Do not cast your pearls amongst swine." I see people in your videos who completely reject and spend their time attacking you. Who's whole purpose while they're there is to disrupt you and do everything in their power to grieve you. When is it appropriate to just not waste your time? By the way, I just want to say I respect your patience. Because I know that I don't have that kind of strength and patience.

[@reubenlyimo]

i would say thats a case by case basis

[@paulrivalto1974]

All SIN is S-elf, I-sh, N-ess! Even that first SIN of the garden, as recorded in Genesis!

[@nikokapanen82]

Yes, Lucifer fell into pride and pride is loving self excessively.

[@paulrivalto1974]

@@Theo_Skeptomai - I just did! S-elf, I-sh, N-ess. Putting one's own desires and wants ahead of God and others. Whether that is a sin of commission- doing something that only serves self and no one else at all. Or a sin of ommissiojn- seeing the opportunity to do the right thing to benefit another and display Christ and His love, yet choosing to dismiss the opportunity. Or even the sin of thought - thinking ill of anyone and passing a final judgment upon them. Wishing them harm or even death. We may and should judge someone's actions but never in a final way. For Saul would have never become Paul if that were the case. Only God and Christ have that option!

[@paulrivalto1974]

@@Theo_Skeptomai - I accept what God and Christ Jesus have revealed to me in our walk together in relationship! Which is what I have already explained! Dictionaries and man's definitions mean nothing to me! For I live in Christ and God alone! Galatians 2:20!

[@paulrivalto1974]

@@Theo_Skeptomai - Not going to play your game Theo Skeptomai! Your name means skeptic of a God! A deity of any kind! So you are agnostic or atheist in your own mind! Trying your best to corner me to put forth your practiced narrative of lies, half-truths and human philosophical nonsense that has no proof of what you seek from it. So let's just cut to the chase! You need God and Christ Jesus His only begotten Son for your salvation and eternal life. Then so do I. Yet I have them in relationship John 17:3, John 15:1-8 each and every day! For by God's grace through His gifted faith, I have Repented of self, Confessed Christ as Lord, and Believed that God has raised Christ from the dead. Ephesians 2:8-9, Luke 13:3&5, Romans 10:9-10. End of conversation!

[@qnotu]

Humans lust and desire. Demons tempt and entice. When our unrighteous desires and temptation conceive, that which manifests is sin. Sin, fully manifested, is what we call death.

[@jasonnoble7302]

God created demons though 🤨

[@trumpbellend6717]

*"SIN"* is a transgression against perceived whims of subjective invisible beings and is irrelevant in any discussion of morality.

[@qnotu]

@@jasonnoble7302 if you want to look at it that way I guess. But in reality god created Angels. Angels devolved into demons. That’s why they tempt us, in hopes we’ll join them in their misery.

[@factenter6787]

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts."--Galatians 5:19‭-‬24 Altar calls, childhood baptisms, "accepting Jesus into our hearts", the sinner's prayer notwithstanding, if a person practices the abovementioned works of the flesh and does not manifest the foregoing fruit of the Spirit, it is not a question of their losing their salvation, because...they were probably never saved to begin with. You cannot lose what you never had in the first place

[@zane383]

can i see the rest of this the ending was so good. to me that last guy was a hypocrite to be honest

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

Bless Cliffe, but I think if his sons were going to perish and Cliffe had the power to stop his sons from perishing, Cliffe would stop it from happening no matter what. That was the scenario the first questioner was raising.

[@factenter6787]

As believers, we sin as we live in fleshly vessel and are immersed in a fallen world where satan and demons dwell too. However, we are convicted by the Holy Spirit in us and confess and repent of it. If we claim to be followers of Yeshua yet we have no such conviction or only feel guilty for being exposed or getting caught, then we need to check whether we even know the Lord at all: "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?"--2 Corinthians 13:5

[@hrmneyezin]

Cliff. I do generally like your videos but could things I noticed which can push folks away from your message. At times there is unnecessary anger in your tone and leading statements with "obviously..." which can put pple off and make them feel condescension. Just a thought

[@andrewcrossman2165]

That does answer my question, I used to think if God knew that I was going to go to hell why would he create me? But that's the answer. It wouldn't be free will. If not. Create me . That was my choice, and my choice only not gods. Amen?

[@WilmerCassara]

Not everyone that says Lord Lord will enter de kingdom of God, but those who do the will of God

[@DHIRAJDC]

Bow respectful were those audience unlike present time ..

[@420Yako]

"This world's knowledge is God's foolishness" -Jesus of Nazareth

[@1dylanflowang]

the gentlemen is asking for evidence of Jesus being the messiah, but with teh same lips he calls Jesus the christ. He already believes He is the christ, what evidence is he asking for? lol

[@duaneporter2061]

I think if Cliffe told him imagine you are the flash and you travel through time to the future and see what will happen and then you travel back. Did flash make it all happen because he saw what will happen? Clearly not I don't understand being stuck on knowing what will happen meaning you made it happen.

[@formallyknownasjojoemcpart6684]

Is it wrong to hate those who want to hurt others? Like those who want to thin the herd (their words) because they feel the world is overpopulated?

[@Forgivenmuchlovingmuch]

God asked Cain about Abel and Cain said, “Am I my brother’s keeper”? God allowed Cain to murder righteous Abel and held Cain responsible. So we are in fact responsible for what we do to each other. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. He’s only provided one way to be saved and spared from His wrath. Someone asked about a baby dying in a storm. There’s a verse that talks about God removing someone from the evil that is to come , so we don’t know exactly what that could have meant in that child’s life. God is sovereign and He has mercy on whom He will have mercy, so from our human perspective it may appear unfair and seem as though the baby died prematurely but from an eternal perspective, it could be for reasons we won’t know until only in our eternal state it is revealed.

[@Louis76-z3i]

@askcliffe. Do you believe in a rapture?

[@stuartknechtle9575]

Yaaaa

[@mbgrafix]

In the simplest of terms, sin is disagreeing with God.

[@Malhaloc]

Not necessarily. You can disagree with God and still obey. Sin is rebellion against God. I don't agree with God that I shouldn't watch porn seeing as how I am 32 and a virgin. But God's standards are higher than mine. It's not the disagreement that is the sin, but in acting on that disagreement to do my will.

[@mbgrafix]

@@Malhaloc _“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that _*_everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart._*_ If your right _*_eye causes you to sin,_*_ tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right _*_hand causes you to sin,_*_ cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell."_ *MATTHEW 5:27-28*

[@Malhaloc]

@@mbgrafix Now what do you think Jesus meant when He said that?

[@mbgrafix]

@@Malhaloc There's no puzzle there. Jesus meant what he said.

[@Malhaloc]

@@mbgrafix Should I then literally take a cleaver and chop off my hand? Should I then take a knife and gouge out my eyes?

[@scottlong5093]

Why do people equate God knowing with God causing?

[@frankservant5754]

While these questions are interesting they are not the reason why these people are not saved. Imagine going to the club and interviewing people, "Why are you not saved?" and one guy responds, "Well because I don't understand the trinity that's why" or "I don't understand how God is Omniscient., or, Is there life on other planets?" another says, "There is a mistake in the bible that's why I am not saved" and oh by the way, "What about other religions?"Lol Dude really, knowing human beings nobody really cares about what is happening to people on the other side of the world let alone on judgement day. DO you really think that guy cares about people in the East he has ever met? Everyone none of those are valid reasons to live in sin. People choose to live in sin because we ignore the truth, not because God is wrong.

[@OMGUKILLKENNY2]

Why is it the truth? Why should I believe it is the truth? What evidence do you have to make such a claim?

[@danielcronin823]

5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. The guy did not change his life he did not repent of his sin BUT was still saved YOu're backloading works into salvation Therefore you have cancelled grace and are lost 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

[@Archangel89]

Its obviously not important as i have all the proof i need but i always wonder what else was said after the camera cuts off. ❤ Take care fellow disciples

[@landen99]

"I'm not interested in your 'charity'.". Tell me the truth.

[@mbgrafix]

*CORRECTION ( **_for the sake of accuracy_** )* At the *25:37* mark in the video, it is mistakenly stated that *Saul* changed his name to *Paul.* This is a common, though rather minor mistake.

[@EchoGuzman]

👍

[@Malhaloc]

Did he not?

[@mbgrafix]

@@Malhaloc Saul *did not* change his name to Paul.

[@TainoMoya]

​@@mbgrafix who did

[@mbgrafix]

@@TainoMoya Who did what? Changed Saul's name to Paul? Nobody did. He used both names as was common, especially so with a man like Paul who had dual citizenship. He was a Jewish Pharisee named Saul, however he was also a Roman citizen with the Roman name, Paul. If you read through the book of Acts, you will see this plainly as he uses both names throughout.

[@nikokapanen82]

I can tell one thing, people have been watching those Hollywood movies about time travel and fallen believing them. In reality, those movies have nothing to do with the truth. Just let's reason together: Cliffe say that God knows the future not because He predestined it but because He can look into the future and see what will take place. Then the question is, where is Satan right now? Is he here in this world killing stealing and destroying or is he burning in the lake of fire? You see if this logic is correct and the future is already real and we can travel there, it means that we can travel in the future realm and see how God is already burning Satan in flames of fire. Yet how is that possible if Satan is still here, ruling this world? Where is Satan exactly? Here or in the flames of fire? Think about us, humans, think one second into the future, that is already another timeline and there is already another me and you, and God is dealing with us there, but who are those individuals if we are here? How can there be another me a second into the future if I am here? Don't you see the foolishness of this belief? Imagine every second of your life all the way back to your birth, it is millions of "you's". Who are they and what are they doing there? Just standing frozen in time, each one per second back into the past? Think about Jesus, is He still nailed on the cross in some other timeline? How is that possible if He is in the heavens on the right side of God? For how long that "other" Jesus in another timeline will be nailed on the cross? For eternity? I wish you would see how wrong this belief is, there are no more you's and me's,, Jesus is not on the cross. So, the past does not exist and the future does not exist, we have only the present.

[@bonnie43uk]

i cant quite grasp what it is you are getting at Nico. Could satan be a figment of the human imagination?, i think that's highly likely, you can also apply that to this concept of God, and even Jesus being the son of God.

[@nikokapanen82]

@@bonnie43uk At 4:25 and further, Cliffe tries to explain that God knows the future not because He predestined it to go the way God wants it to go but because God is outside of time and therefore He sees the past and the future at once. So, according to Cliffe, the future already exists, meaning that you Tom for example, already exist tomorrow and God sees what you are doing there. I tried to explain how foolish this idea is, that there is another you who is already living tomorrow and so on.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@nikokapanen82 ah, ok, yeah, i see what you mean. If you're saying that nobody knows the future, including God, then yes, i agree. You obviously know my position on the Christian God's existence. On an unrelated matter, do you believe that objective moral values exist?

[@nikokapanen82]

@@bonnie43uk Yes, I know your position on God's existence. I was there myself years ago, so I can understand it. I most definitely believe that behavioral attributes like Love, Chastity, Charity, Decency, Temperance, Diligence, Humility, Honesty, Gratitude, Selflessness, Loyalty, Self-control, etc. are objectively good that lead to a positive outcome, which is an emotionally satisfying outcome. Then such behavioral attributes as pride, greed, hypocrisy, deception, envy, laziness, judging, mocking, bullying stealing, etc. are objectively bad and they lead to harm and damage and eventually lead to pain and suffering.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@nikokapanen82 Yes indeed, we can broadly agree on those 2 sets of positive and negative human attributes existing. So when you say something is "objectively immoral" are there a list of things which we can all agree on being immoral?.. this is probably where we would disagree. I view morality via a 'harm v benefit' lens, in that if something is beneficial to my self, and particularly to those around me, then I would call it good, and obviously something that is harmful or detrimental to myself and to others, then I would deem that as bad. But in order to determine good and bad, i need to use my own thought process, and that is personal to me ( subjective)

[@9290SC]

Glory to God! Who parent in this video? lol

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

I lack the belief that moral subjectivists actually exist. I've seen no credible evidence that any professed subjectivist is willing to grant the subjectivism that they claim for themselves.... to others.

[@Generatorman59]

This question can be resolved easily. You believe God is the standard of morality. All you have to do is demonstrate the existence of this God and show why anyone ought to abide by his alleged standard. Otherwise, just admit that morality is based on opinion.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@Generatorman59 what"question" did you imagine you resolved by asking a question that proves you didn't resolve it? Or even understand it.

[@spooky6902]

What do you mean by "granting subjectivism" to others? I accept that no moral position is any more "correct" than any other. That doesn't mean I don't have any desires. The only justification anyone needs to enforce their morality on others is that they have some goal. That's it. I have the goal of protecting my family. That's justification for preventing people from hurting them. Justification is just a good reason. Avoiding emotional subjective pain is a good reason to enforce your morality on others

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@Our Savior nah, I thinks he's a raw, emotional idiot. He doesn't understand because he doesn't want to.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@spooky6902 you again? Don't ask what I mean by things if it's obvious, which it is.

[@dwaynebeale7405]

Sin is the transgression of God's law, 1 John 3:4 , this is the definition of sin...

[@nikokapanen82]

Sin has many definitions like it is a selfish act that is harmful, it is an exalted love of self, etc.

[@edstone7676]

God. Has what is called foreknowledge. Foreknowledge is exactly this to God One day is like a thousand Years and a thousand years is like one day.

[@paulwilfridhunt]

I have yet to see a tattoo worthy enough to hang on a wall. But how much better are you than a wall. Therefore do not disfigure yourself with much disfiguration.

[@robmc120]

I pray the triune God of the supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13). May God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God")!

[@Tmoney_85]

Let me help you with the question if we can lose our salvation. No. Jesus said “no one can snatch them from my hand. “

[@edstone7676]

God knew what Judas was going to do before he did it, he did not force him to do it. He did not take away his free will he used it in his plan? Which was? He was to betray Jesus, and Jesus was to die on a cross for our sins.

[@jayreyndogz1791]

The thing the Jewish person said didn't make any sence he's still believing in what people wrote thousands of years ago as the word of God

[@aaronkibat]

Based on this guys theories, nobody can believe anything about anything ever

[@john2ndname]

God has a book of every person that has received His Son Jesus in many libraries in Heaven.That book of your name on it has your life in it for eternity. God has already written out life as we know it...good question in this video about can a person lose their salvation. NO!..Its impossible because when a person has confess Jesus is Lord according to Romans 10:9 Jesus then writes the persons name in His blood in the" Lamb's book of life" People's names are NOT removed from His book because it is eternal through Christ!...

[@griffisjm]

So the Jew won't accept Jesus because the Bible is 2000 years old yet he accepts the even older less evidence books of the Talmud?? Laughable!

[@clearmist1]

I think sin is going against God's design he created humans for. For example, if the moon refused to shine, it would be a sin for it goesagainst its created design. However, it wasn't given free will, so it can not choose to go against its design. Another example (not of sin because it isn't a design of god) is if a plate is broken and used as a knife. It goes against its design it doesn't make a good knife or plate. However, God stepped in and fixed us so we could serve our designated purpose he created us for so we no longer have to struggle being ineffective. When noticing, there wasn't a good definition of sin that could be a standard against moral actions I continued to pray and this is what God revealed to me.

[@clearmist1]

@Theo_Skeptomai I understood the entire concept instantly at a period of time I wasn't thinking about it. This has never happened to me in any previous knowledge seeking event. It was a large concept instantly.

[@clearmist1]

@Theo_Skeptomai The side of a building. I said, revealed not observed. Things can be revealed in many ways.

[@clearmist1]

@@Theo_Skeptomai It was instant imagination isn't instant.

[@clearmist1]

@Theo_Skeptomai Imagination is indeed a great tool to work out new knowledge. However, it can not discover new knowledge instantly. Just like screws are a nice tool to hold together planes. However, you can't fly with only a screw. So no it wasn't using Imagination.

[@clearmist1]

@@Theo_Skeptomai are you saying you need to make observations of something for it to be real?

[@alexandrepereira3902]

Awesome... how cynical can humans be?

[@Chrom4Prez]

So interesting how he denys any evidence from the bible of the validity of its claim then at the end turns it around and reveals his belief in the exsistence of Jesus Christ comes from the bible lol

[@danielcronin823]

I knew it OSAS in your eyes is false You have not trusted Christ as your saviour YOU are lost you are wasting your time and wasting their time. How many of these kids actually got saved

[@theimpaler2317]

11:24 “once saved always saved” is not biblical!

[@bonnie43uk]

What people regard as 'sinful' differs massively, even with something as prevalent as lying, it very much depends on the situation, you can lie to protect someone. Here in the UK, the word "sin" is rarely used as we're becoming a much more secular nation.

[@zsaklong4619]

Cool 👍

[@dogelife7901]

That's sad. You can also not lie to protect someone. Lying would mean they now share in the lie and have to cover it up for you, so the consequences will be worse when it's found out so it's just increased the burden for them unnecessary.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@dogelife7901 there is a classic example dogslife, which you may have heard, i can also give you other examples, if, during WWII, you lived in Nazi Germany, and the Gestapo knocked on your door, and you happened to be hiding Jews, and they asked you directly "Q: do you know the whereabouts of any Jews"? .. should you tell the truth, or lie? What would you do in that situation? Which would be the moral answer?

[@boltrooktwo]

The UK is also becoming a less unified, lawful, and successful nation the more it’s institutions show corruption. It may correlate the less rational their philosophy on morality and the human condition becomes.

[@dentonhahn2907]

Hello Bonnie, that is correct man is trying from the beginning of time to redefine God's word, that is obvious from genesis to the end of the book. As for the lying you over look the other option, say nothing at all. But Clif spoke plainly and accurately, it is not a deed one does but the heart in which it is done, think about the two midwife that delivers the Hebrew babies in the time of Moses, they lied or at least stretched the truth because they knew it was wrong to kill babies. Also Schindler saved many jews maybe not by the right way, he knew it was wrong to murder jews, Abraham lied to save his own skin and God called him out. Big difference.

[@kristijanpavlovic8605]

To sin means to miss the mark of perfection, and perfection is love. EDIT: For clarification, I do not believe that religions have a correct depiciton of God as there are many errors, illogical and unloving teachings in them. I believe God to be a perfectly loving, logical and just being. If anyone is interested, the truth about God can be found at the Divine Truth youtube channel.

[@bonnie43uk]

that's your own personal interpretation Kristijan. I think most people view the word as something against God. I happen to think the God of the Bible has many flaws.

[@kristijanpavlovic8605]

@@bonnie43uk it's not, but you may believe it is. Love is one of God's most important attributes so when we go against love, we are sinning.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@kristijanpavlovic8605 so, is it ok with you if 2 women are deeply in love with one another,? that sounds wonderful to me.

[@kristijanpavlovic8605]

@@bonnie43uk it's not a matter of my opinion but what God deems loving. It depends, what do you mean by love?

[@bonnie43uk]

@@kristijanpavlovic8605 Love: a deep sense of affection for another person.. have you never been in love Kristijan? ... it's an incredible feeling that consumes you. ❤❤