Cliffe Knechtle | Atheistic Altruism Is Just A Prejudice | Give Me An Answer

[@vtchevalier]

I’m so grateful we get to watch all these conversations

[@gilbertcammarn874]

I as well. I've learned lots from watching these videos. Lots of notes since I've found this channel years ago.

[@sokhanoun6240]

Yes me too as someone that believes in god the teaching me a lot . I believe in god but never read the whole bible or understand the whole bible. But I know Jesus is god because I called upon him and he answered my calls

[@HoytHavaro-kk8eh]

I’m now convinced that the “Cliff Stance” is his subtle way of saying “you better brace yourself”.

[@AM-lh7rw]

"The Cliff stance"😂

[@kaylum-oe7qu]

Cliffe stance makes ray lewis quiver in fear

[@bisbeekid]

He only does that to seem authoritative and knowledgeable - fails miserably.

[@mikerukavina4551]

That last guy. "Paul was obsessed with the Cross." If God opened up the sky and showed Himself to you, i bet you would be obsessed with the Cross too.

[@skash_kashetu]

😂😂😂😂...I bet he would!

[@bisbeekid]

Never going to happen, god opening up the sky and showing "Himself" to us.

[@huntergallant5655]

That Buddhist guy had one of the classic hang-ups I most often see among non-Christians. The whole idea of "well, I'm a good person, I do good things, so why isn't that enough? Why do I have to submit to Christ? My actions should be enough." Of course, the problem with that idea is that none of us are capable of being fully good on our own, and the vast majority of us fall very, VERY short of that ideal. None of us can be justified by good works, no matter how hard we try. What it ultimately comes down to is a choice that each and every one of us has to make: do we want to have a relationship with God, or do we want to be separate from Him? That's what submitting to Christ, to God is about: telling Him that we desire a relationship with Him, so that we may be with Him forever. That is what Heaven is, an eternal relationship with God. And if you DON'T want a relationship with God? Well, then He'll give you the separation you seek. Only this eternal separation, which we know as Hell, isn't nearly as pleasant as some non-Christians seem to think it is. After all, everything that is good ultimately comes from God, and separation from God means separation from everything associated with him. It's not about good works, it's not about being a good person, it's about a simple choice.

[@statutesofthelord]

And it was odd to see that he claims to not accept the Bible because he wasn't there to see the resurrection, but he claims to believe the books of Buddha, while having never met the guys who came up with that religion.

[@Nick-fi1mc]

That was explained perfectly, that was very well written!!!

[@Nick-fi1mc]

​@@statutesofthelordgreat point

[@siredaruler6016]

​@@statutesofthelord exactly right. He says you're reincarnated to some other creature or living object. So my question to him would be if you're reborn as a plant or bird how do you right all your sins you committed as a human?

[@siredaruler6016]

Right on with this post.

[@Freddyfrm18]

New Cliffe video, but really it's a classic from 20 years ago. Fall 2003 This was recorded. I was seventeen years old.

[@lohuncho313]

And I was born that year

[@theresaoverbey5177]

The young man said he doesn't believe in Jesus YET! God is gonna move in his life. He asks questions that are important

[@gingercake0907]

There is urgency in accepting Christ right now not later because you aren’t promised the next minute. There are two overriding lies Satan promotes 1) There is no God and His word doesn’t apply to me, 2) If there is a God I’ve got time.

[@andrewdevore4799]

Ooh, a Cliffe Classics recorded in the early 2000s

[@kristencarpenterE]

To be honest, I don't want to reincarnate. Can u imagine a never-ending date with Death when your time comes? That's horrible.

[@bonnie43uk]

it's almost as horrible as living for eternity.

[@spo0okyghost768]

@justingary5322that’s one of the longest comments I’ve ever seen

[@mimik2496]

@@bonnie43ukit depends where you’ll be spending eternity 😂

[@gingercake0907]

@@bonnie43uk No reincarnation is not anything like living for eternity with God. Living with God means no suffering from illnesses mental or physical, no burdens or worries, no fears , no hatred’s, no oppressions none of the cares that so easily beset us. In heaven you will experience the joy of knowing you are with God who truly loves you, who said when He finished creation and created mankind, it was a good thing He did. Heaven is evidence that God has not changed His mind about creating the universe, earth, you, me and everyone else, He still thinks it was a GOOD THING HE DID. Praise God because He hasn’t changed His mind. That’s what Christians know about God, that’s why we shout Hallelujah, because God hasn’t changed His mind. We will forever be the objects of His affection and immeasurable love.

[@Kelvin-k8n]

@@bonnie43ukyou mean living with a woman or having a family a bad thing to live forever with them? You must hate life!!!!

[@Tjtellsthetruth]

Everytime I watch a Cliff/Stuart video my faith in Christ grows even stronger.

[@EmbracingTeReoMaori]

Are you still sporting the facial hair Uncle Cliffe? Legendary.

[@karenfraser4701]

We trust text on history as valuable evidence of persons or places or events. But when it comes to evidence, presented in the same way, that speaks to the fact of our own value and that without a higher power we are nothing, we dispute the evidence. It comes down to we thinking that we can get through life on our own strenghth. We hear and it all the time, eg. I did, we are doing, because of us. Our vanity separates us from a higher power. As humans through the ages, we have fought to claim our own. Albeit land, our ideas, our inventions, our rights saying that we are individuals who are entitled. So when we are challenged that all of this is because of a higher power, we resist, argue, fight because it goes against our egos. Thank you Cliffe for expounding on the Gospel and the Finished works of Jesus on the Cross

[@xMasterDevilx]

These people who claim to have read the gospel don't seem to realize that the Bible is not a children's book. It is an intellectually demanding text. When someone just wants to read the Bible without thinking deeply about the context of a given issue or the true meaning of a word, they will assume that it is nonsense. Jesus taught mainly through parables and used similes and metaphors. Let me give you an example: when he told the Pharisees, destroy the temple and I will rebuild it in three days, it does not mean that Jesus will grab a trowel and build the temple in three days. When he talked about birds carrying away grain, he didn't mean it literally. Sometimes you have to dig hard and sweat a lot to understand a given message.

[@dontewithdragons]

Amen. This is why Orthodox churches have an initiation process to make sure you are educated on the faith, and typically why Protestantism uses Bible study. Human reason is a gift from God because He made us in His image.

[@MorrisBurton1]

The Buddhist guy soon as he started talking he was stumbling on all his words, and he said it the only one that makes him a good guy, well buddy it doesn’t matter about being a Good Guy.

[@smigletat9634]

Yep! Good deeds are out! They are of only parts of the fruits that naturally come as in being a good Christian

[@RemiAndTheJets]

21:32 I have a question though, if the Buddhist really believes in Buddha, why is he concerned about going to hell? If he truly believes in reincarnation and multiple opportunities to get it “right” then why does he subscribe to the idea of Hell? Why is he worried about how someone else’s belief system would frame his afterlife?

[@thepathlesstraveled659]

EXACTLY! I am a Christian and there is no other religion in this world that can make me uneasy. I laugh at the rest.

[@thedebraddogroup]

One of the best conversations

[@blackhaze8233]

Without lies atheism dies

[@usestheirbrain]

Atheism is the lack of evidence of God. There is nothing that can prove it exists. Why would you believe in something that's most likely not there?

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Any time an atheist begins a sentence with "atheism is......" you know the rest will be pointless and irrelevant.

[@usestheirbrain]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 because you're not smart enough to handle the info. You think an imaginary friend did something

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@usestheirbrain way to live up to the cliche. Atheism is a disorder.

[@spooky6902]

​@usestheirbrain lol exactly "I can't understand reality. Magic daddy makes more sense. Gives me happy feeling in tummy"

[@8Qxd3f11]

Recorded in the fall 2003, takes me back.

[@ItsssMeRico]

Early gang let’s goooo!

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

Ah yes, CCC…Certified Cliff Classic

[@AM-lh7rw]

"The Cliff stance"😂, we have to brave ourselves for the reply as well🙏

[@Tigera12]

*2 Peter 3:15-16* And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are *hard* to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. Keep reading ur bible dont try to understand it but ask the holy spirit to make u understand and u will understand, God Bless!!

[@thomasfuentes2913]

Romans 5:1-5 therefore have been justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ who we have access by faith into tbe grace we now stand and rejoice in hope in Christ Jesus and not only that but we glory in tribulations for tribulations produces character character hope

[@garys1967]

Cliffe is a master!

[@larzman651]

What he was showing you is that you have a faith just as he has faith. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil

[@thomasfuentes2913]

Matthew says if you have faith as small as a mustard seed you can move this mountain from here to there and it will happen

[@gingercake0907]

@@thomasfuentes2913 Matthew quotes Jesus in Matthew 17:20. Jesus is teaching and Matthew just records His teachings.

[@holidayrap]

But behold, I say unto you that ye must PRAY ALWAYS, and not faint; that ye must not perform any thing unto the Lord save in the first place ye shall pray unto the Father in the name of Christ, that he will consecrate thy performance unto thee, that thy performance may be FOR THE WELFARE OF THY SOUL. #Keeppraying #Keepbelieivng #Jesuslives #Jesusloves

[@TrustinChrist-truthseeker]

2 Nephi 32:9

[@BrockJamesStory]

Paul was a prophet revealing the revelation of the mystery to us.

[@bignoob1790]

Is there a place we can find the original give me an answer theme?

[@cats-cacti]

We have free will. How can we explain how people jump into action during a stressful, dangerous situation…? Most people run from danger. Sometimes… the person you save… is the person that saves you. And you both may not it at the moment… If you didn’t act to help someone in trouble, it could cause you more trouble in the end.

[@BenSelah]

Would love for some of the students to post a video now about back then lol

[@edbrackeen5979]

1 Corinthians 1:17-18 [17]For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [18]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

[@gingercake0907]

People don’t know what faith is and so they narrow faith to only religion. Human beings are just little balls of faith. We exercise our faith all day long. Starting with the alarms on our phones which we set in the night with faith and hope that we will hear it in the morning. We use faith when drive , shop, school, work, doctor etc. It’s not that we don’t have faith, it’s what choose to put it in.

[@bonnie43uk]

I have a tonnage more faith in my phone alarm going off at the correct time in the morning based on the scientific knowledge and testability of mobile phones, than I have faith in a God that evades the 5 human senses. There are hundreds of things I have faith in that are far more reliable than God.

[@gingercake0907]

@@bonnie43uk Well you have to be alive to hear the alarm clock. I’m not going to put my faith in the alarm clock ,I am going to put my faith in the God who blesses me to hear the alarm clock and brings me to consciousness. The alarm doesn’t give me life.

[@sokhanoun6240]

People just need to ask themselves would a stranger die for them . Nor would you die for some stranger. If you can then some thing or some one is telling the heart and trust that feeling. No man can if they are stranger

[@dannyneiba]

These free thinking libs are interesting specimens. When confronted by truth they fall apart like a house of cards. Good job Cliff🙏🏾

[@coolorphans]

Not everyone needs to delude themselves about their reality with theism. Some people have higher cognition than others and come to greater realizations.

[@gingercake0907]

Let’s not stereotype people with comments about politics. Let’s not bring politics into a discussion on Faith in Christ because you can still go to hell as a conservative. Jesus Christ DIDN’T play politics because He is God. Politics is man grasping at power over other men. That’s not power that even comes close to registering on God’s power scale. So let’s leave liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, MAGA out of the conversation.

[@dannyneiba]

@@gingercake0907you’re right.

[@HappyRaven1611]

I’d like to know where each of these videos take place in the description.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Romans 10:13🙏 "For “WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD [in prayer] WILL BE SAVED.”

[@tomkurowski8443]

How much evidence are we given about ANYTHING? We are taught things in school and we simply believe it without scrutiny. When God is presented, with historical accounts and evidence, it is suddenly unbelievable. Some would sooner believe in a big bang, of which there is no evidence. It boggles my mind. I would prefer to think we are special, not a clump of cells without purpose formed through chance.

[@Euphilia520]

Thank you Cliffe for your amazing ministry. Your debate has provided me with so many perspectives on biblical interpretation of controversial topics

[@cleongionetactor]

I would say; to remember human error.. regardless of accuracy. Human error-is always in-part of what takes place. Example: take three different individuals that seen the same accident take place. -but explain it a little differently based on their own subjective perception(POV). It’s the same accident. Just explained three ways. The point! -it’s changes nothing. The accuracy remains the same. This is the gospels of Christ. ❤

[@watermeloncat391]

For the People who are Struggling with There Faith Proverbs 3:5-6 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight."

[@CarlCampbellMusic]

To anyone dealing with depression or feeling low, don’t give up on life, no matter what bad things happened in your past, don’t let them define you or control your destiny, you are all important and loved!, there is hope for all of us! Jesus loves you all ✝️, get to know God through Christ 📖

[@obilingful]

As someone who is agnostic and views religion purely as a way to give people a direction in life (which I believe A LOT of people could use). I was looking to see if this guy might change my mind. Sadly his only and go to evidence is the "eyewitness accounts" written in a "credible" book thats from 2000+ years ago, has been rewritten & translated multiple times, (dont worry nothing altered there) but most importantly has passed his own made up test. A test that lacks any real "analysis" something regularly used by "scientists" which have long ago uncovered the real meaning of life.

[@bonnie43uk]

Whether or not we have free will is a good question, we're all bound by societies rules that mankind has made over thousands of years, eg: you could argue that I have the free will to steal, but I know that stealing has consequences. I don't have the free will to do anything I wish. I guess I have the free will to conjure up any thought in my head. There are no limits to what the human imagination can envisage in my head, for example, if I imagine God as a woman, would that be deemed as immoral? Many cultures in history have had female Gods.

[@thomasfuentes2913]

Isaiah 5:20-21 woe to those who call evil good and good evil who put darkness for light and light for darkness who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter woe to those who are wise in thier own eyes and prudent in thier own sight

[@bonnie43uk]

@@thomasfuentes2913 where have I called good evil or vise versa thomas?, where have i put darkness for light and vise versa?, or bitter for sweet etc? I'm just responding to Cliffe saying we have free will, up to a point we do, yes, but i know right from wrong, most of us can determine a good act from a bad act, you don't need belief in the Christian God to know that. Virtually all Muslims, Hindu's and people all over the world can determine good and bad acts. If I question Gods existence, using my free will, is that a bad thing?

[@thomasfuentes2913]

@@bonnie43ukyes we all have free will given to us by God but those who do question God's ways will have consequences

[@thomasfuentes2913]

@@bonnie43uk Romans 2:14-15 for when gentiles who do not have the law by nature do the things in the law these although not having the law are a law to themselves who show the work of the law written in thier hearts thier conscience also bearing wittness and beteen themselves thier thoughts accusing or else excusing them

[@bonnie43uk]

@@thomasfuentes2913 So you're saying I must not question Gods ways, and just accept everything in the Bible? If God created me as I suspect you believe thomas, he created me with a brain, I'm sure he'd want me to use my brain to the best of my ability and to question things which go against my inner moral compass. Are there no passages in the bible which make you question the morality of the bible? For all you know, when I die and I meet God ( i don't believe that will happen), he may say to me "well done for questioning those passages in the bible which I placed there as a test to check peoples moral character, you passed with flying colors, here is your harp, enjoy heaven"

[@-clipz-]

Praise Jesus

[@1Dishonorable]

Let bygones be bygones Can the Rich answer To the question path I'm no longer ask. Blessed are the peacemakers

[@jessebryant9233]

Not a single one of the resident trolls of this channel are consistent with the position they claim to hold-and some of them have been demonstrating it for years! (I won't mention any names. All the regulars know who they are.) They are all 100% self-deceived and their comments prove it. 😥🙏

[@dr00g28]

Hear, hear! 👏👏👏

[@bonnie43uk]

could you give a prime example?

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Why lookie here... the prime example wants a prime example.

[@spooky6902]

You guys can't even explain your position. You know if you answered even a single question, it would only expose your position further.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 I think i've been *extremely* consistent over the past 10 years or more on my position regarding God/Jesus/Morality/The Bible etc. Could you give a prime example of me *NOT* being consistent?

[@Apolitica_T]

talking about being obsessed with the cross. I think that's the only kind of obsession that's healthy.

[@Vlad-ss5pm]

Wow. Interesting how you used to be able to have hard conversations and no one was acting crazy

[@aidanblackwood9068]

Amen 🙏

[@ProdMADog]

9:01 found it

[@UnequivicalLee]

Expose Satan’s lies. Recognise that their disbelief is not just from intellectual objections but from spiritual influences led by Satan in his active works to obscure the truth of God, leading people into spiritual blindness and rebellion. Be brave and give them the truth. It’s not a debate, it’s a fact.

[@Koda780]

If people would just read the KJV HOLY BIBLE thin they would know god our father and our savior Jesus Christ is real come on people

[@domsuniga969]

Or most other translations…

[@thefirstbigsmokepopcat744]

I wonder if Cliffe knows about William Marrion Branham

[@Deadeye.22]

When did Jesus move from Bethlehem to Nazareth? And how long did he say in Nazareth?

[@davidkigheri2064]

Jesus was born in Bethlehem but lived in Nazareth for most of his life that's at that time they called him Jesus of Nazareth

[@knxcholx]

@justingary5322 what a typical response. My goodness. Instead of answering, you say "just read the bible" 🤦‍♀️

[@cyborgvison2024]

So I don't know where he is doing these conversations but I have a question for anyone to answer, in the Bible God creates the earth trees and plants on the third day I believe and on the 4th day he creates aquatic and sky animals, but sharks date back 450 million years ago and trees only date back 420million years ago, so that seems like only one way is true, either God is, or the science is

[@bonnie43uk]

yes indeed cyborg, living things date back even further in time, we have good evidence that this planet we live on is around 4.5 billion years.

[@blondetapperware8289]

This is a false dichotomy that even a lot of fundamentalists make. It's also a product of a society that only understands how to read truth through a materialistic lense. The Creation story in Genesis is true. Every word of it. However, that doesn't make every word of it true in a literal, scientific sense. Did God create the world? Yes. Did He create humans to be in perfect relationship with Him? Yes. Did they succumb to temptation and fall from grace? Yes. All of this is true, but a failure to switch lenses to meet the ancient language of the text on it's own basis is a failure to see that truth it's trying to communicate to you. Speakers like Jonathan Pageau do an excellent job talking about this if you're interested in looking into this more.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@blondetapperware8289 How old do you think this planet we live on is my friend?, and how did you determine that?

[@blondetapperware8289]

@@bonnie43uk I'm not sure how that applies. I don't know the exact amount of years, but if you're going for a scientific answer, I'm sure there are many scientists who have educated guesses.

[@brotherdamien1804]

I am curious whether the same logical rules that apply to the moral relativist also apply to the subjective Scriptural interpreter. The worldview of the moral relativist has no objective standard of morality, which makes their moral views relative. But doesn't the subjective Scriptural interpreter lack both objective authority to interpret Scripture as well as an objective interpretation of Scripture? So, in the same way that the opposite view of the moral relativist is equally valid, wouldn't the opposite of one's subjective interpretation of Scriptural, say in matters of, for example, morals, baptism, creation, the personhood of Jesus, the Trinity, etc., be equally valid as well?

[@thomassecor8474]

Are you saying that you can interpret thou shall not steal as you can steal? And it would be moral? No somethings have to objective and leave zero room for interpretation.

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

Excellent point, and question

[@coolorphans]

@@thomassecor8474 "Thou shall not steal" is a subjective concept.

[@brotherdamien1804]

​@@thomassecor8474 What I am saying is this---was one of God's intentions in providing us with the Bible to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? I think so, but that's not what the Bible has done. God's children are divided because each individual has claimed the right to subjectively interpret Scripture, leading to disagreements about salvation, baptism, sin, morality, the nature of God, creation, the personhood and divinity of Christ, the Incarnation, redemption, sacraments, authority, and on and on. The result is a fractured Christianity in which God's own children treat each other with shameful disdain. I conclude that one of the following is objectively true: that division was either God's plan for us, which I cannot believe because God's nature is unity, or He did provide us with an objective authority around which we were intended to unite. The latter must be true, but it isn't the Bible, so what is it?

[@thomasfuentes2913]

​@@brotherdamien1804those who who try to interpret the bible through thier own understanding will not understand the full word of Gods word to fully understand the bible is by going by his persective and not our own for being a believer is not by our own opinions but by his truth hope that helped

[@maxzexgaming5325]

Yessir

[@konradschargel5314]

Buddhism is not a religion, it’s just a a way and means to lessen inevitable human suffering during life, you can still be a Christian…..

[@1Dishonorable]

The only thing I need to know about Christianity is after the illest time I have had in over 25 years not a christian asked if I'm okay in fact it sticks that nobody did, after 8 to 9 months of chronic continuous delusions

[@troywalstra9300]

Are you an atheist?

[@Badsyifi]

Sounds like a pitch to sign someone up to sell Amway. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

[@warzan745]

It’s not too good to be true. Life following these teachings is one of great hardship, conviction, vulnerability, and humility. With free will, many if not, most would turn from these without a second thought. It is not to good, but is good. It is good to find the truth and to follow it.

[@BrockJamesStory]

No actually the gospels were not obsessed with the cross. The apostles didn’t even know about the cross through 90 percent of each book.

[@asorafilipo1766]

😂 Please remember religions are ways people are trying to find GOD but Christinaty is The WAY The TRUTH and The LIFE that GOD provided for mankind to come back to Him a relationship with Him and be CITIZEN of the KINGDOM of HEAVEN forever so please believe in your heart soul and spirit and confess that Jesus Christ is God your Lord and Savior you will be save you live by FAITH not by sight and show by your good works which GOD rewards you for in His own time so please do it now before it's too late for if you don't you will spend eternity in Hell tomented forever ❤❤❤

[@bonnie43uk]

Cliffe mentioned that Marcion was a heretic?, what does the Bible say should be done with heretics?

[@peterberr3888]

If I am not mistaken the Bible suggests warning, avoiding, and excluding heretics from the Christian community if they persist in their erroneous beliefs. The emphasis is on maintaining the purity of the community's beliefs and avoiding those who would lead others astray. Examples: Titus 3:10-11: This passage suggests a process of warning the heretic and, if they do not change, to avoid them. 2 John 1:10-11: This emphasizes avoiding those who do not adhere to the correct teaching. Romans 16:17-18: This passage advises believers to stay away from those who cause divisions and teach contrary doctrines. Matthew 18:15-17: This outlines a process for dealing with someone who sins, which can be applied to heresy: first, a private admonition; then, involving witnesses; and finally, involving the church community.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@peterberr3888 I was talking more on a practical personal level peter, particularly in days gone by. eg: Are you aware of Michael Servetus?

[@bonnie43uk]

@@peterberr3888 just out of interest, would you regard me as a heretic?

[@peterberr3888]

@@bonnie43uk do you claim to be a Christian with a theology that goes against certain core beliefs of established Christianity? No? Then no - you are not a heretic, if one were to classify then maybe atheist or, agnostic or, secularist or, humanist.

[@peterberr3888]

@@bonnie43uk Michael Servetus... i thought I recalled the name, and looked him up; yes his famous work on the circulatory system. A talented intellectual man with ideas on the trinity and Christ that clashed with religious orthodoxy at an unfortunate time in history when the church held political power; when they had the backing of force to align people to an ideology.

[@Slayallday156]

If you could, could you explain how we “know” that the evidence of Jesus like the nails that got hammered into his feet and hands, his Bible, etc is his. How do we have proof that it is his and that someone could have put it in a place to trick people or someone make a Bible look very old and bring it to a museum, how do we know that it was really his?

[@t00psy]

Do you believe in Jesus because of artifacts? You could be right about that stuff. Doesn't change anything about Jesus.

[@jasonhorst9154]

The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth His handywork.

[@manicksgaming6949]

GOD DIDNT tell you have to do thaat , he wants you to do that cause thats better for you

[@watermeloncat391]

I Saw one of your Converstion with an Atheist that You Misunderstood Jesus Death Jesus died from crucifixion in John 8:59 He, was Cruficied With two Other Criminals Luke 23:32-33 He Predicted his own death 3 times First Prediction Matthew 16:21 Second Predictionn Matthew 17:22-23 Third Prediction Matthew 20:17-19

[@erickbelmontes744]

I enjoy the younger Cliff more than the current version. He low-key repeats himself too much now, but back then, he would always switch up the conversation.

[@nikkisigmon8090]

Vast majority of teachers are like this bc some lines of logic and discussion work out much easier for people to grasp than others. He's working with public and you have to get down the basics before can build up and expound further

[@vsr5557]

Man's getting old and comfortable

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Pretty much

[@masbro1368]

I want to ask. My questions... 1. The reality that we can see right now is that in this universe there are trillions of trillions of planets and galaxies. If there are countless trillions of trillions of planets... maybe not only planet Earth has living creatures inhabiting it...? For example, if there are a trillion other planets that have living creatures like Earth and its inhabitants are various types of non-human creatures, would Jesus also be God on those one trillion inhabited planets...? 2. The real facts that we can know right now... the earth is approximately 10 million km, the sun is 1.3 million times as big as the earth, and there is a star called U Scuty that is tens of billions of times as big as the sun . If the celestial bodies were super massive in size like that, the number in the trillions would be uncountable. How big do you think God the Creator is, bro...? Maybe God is only as big as the man Jesus...? 3. According to scientists, the universe is more than 13 billion years old, whereas according to historians, Adam and Eve only existed about 7 thousand years ago. Based on this science... maybe the universe has been empty without any living creatures inhabiting it for more than 13 billion years...? So what was Jesus doing for 13 billion years before there were humans, Adam and Eve...? Please answer me!!!!?!!!

[@thegrimharvest]

I'll attempt to answer, but if my answers are insufficient or unsatisfactory, you are welcome to tell me so, and I would encourage you to keep asking them elsewhere until you find satisfaction. 1. Entirely hypothetical. I can't give a substantial solid objective answer that doesn't really jump to a series of possible flawed conclusions. If I say yes, he's also God to the gaflorixans in the Crab nebula, I'm only speculating, and if I say no, I'm still only engaged in conjecture. I've never been to the Crab Nebula and never met a gaflorxian, so I don't know is the most honest answer to that question. 2. Big. Really big. Assuming his existence is inside and contained within creation itself. The Nth dimension, infinitely higher than our 3 dimensional observations. Or else he exists outside of creation itself, and chooses how to approach and appear within the boundaries of it. In which case we don't know and won't know this side of eternity just how and what He looks like.

[@thegrimharvest]

3. I don't know. I wasn't there. Don't know anyone who was that saw it in person and is here to tell me about it. What was he doing before existence existed? I don't know. Thinking up existence, I suppose. What was he doing before his corporeal login to the server? He was hanging with his dad and his dad's word, who he is also an aspect of. In the beginning was the code, and the code was with the developer and the code was the developer, and we have seen the developer because he joined the server with us in the form of Jesus_of_Nazareth777.

[@masbro1368]

@@thegrimharvest 1. God is the creator of the universe, so God must also be God on all the planets that He has created. There are only two possibilities, 1. Jesus is not God on another planet, 2. Yes, Jesus is also God on trillions of other planets. Let's test both, 1. If Jesus is not God on another planet, then Jesus is not God, the creator of this universe. True or not, please refute? 2. If Jesus is also God on trillions of other planets, then how can other creatures or aliens on trillions of other planets know that Jesus is their God? Please refute and answer my question using your logic

[@masbro1368]

@@thegrimharvest 2. Yes, God is Great, much bigger than this universe as mentioned in the Bible, Jeremiah 23:24, Chronicle 6:18. That is why God is invisible, because God is Great, He is outside the universe in his own dimension. What you explained is quite correct. My question...can something that is bigger than the universe become a human being less than 2 meters?

[@masbro1368]

@@thegrimharvest 3. In my opinion, God continues to create and take care of what He has created, so God doesn't just create in 6 days and then do nothing. Let's prove it... are your grandmother, your parents, you and your children created by God? If yes, then how did God create your grandmother, your parents, you and your children?

[@georgewagner7787]

The only evidence he has heard of

[@SELAHPAUSE]

@22:40 Cliffe like dude you are all over the place

[@ProdMADog]

yes but it's your job to listen

[@RubyCallicoat]

I'm not living for Jesus Christ, "yet". He's on the fence. I pray he came to Jesus. ❤

[@mikedesposito1981]

To prove without biblical evidence like reading the Bible is what year are we in right now 2024. That means 2024 years that the calendar started from a man that died on a cross and rose from the dead 3 years later. And the fact that we celebrate his birthday which is Christmas. Dec 25

[@DougHoward-cc5np]

Not right now I know what I can do build more barns to store all this extra grain don't you know your life could be judge this very night

[@silvernatedogg]

I wonder what Cliffe’s IQ is? Or Frank Turek’s?

[@teeemm9456]

I think the book explanation is weak from a Christian perspective. I understand the concept for the situation, but I would suggest that the Holy Spirit had a hand in assembling the bible.

[@TheTriplelman]

the guy at the end. Buddhism is NOT a religion its a life practice, I dont know what he is studding-probably nothing Buddha said he did not know if there is a god and he is NOT god. - and when he said "so 500 people said they saw Jesus" - yes but the majority of EYE WITNESSES were put to an excruciating death, if they just denied what they saw they wouldn't have to. die. EVERY Psychologist/Psychiatrist will tell you - People DONT die a cruel death for what they KNOW is a lie.

[@mjkk-nx3mk]

free will is something that is not explained really well or taught about too well. but first need to understand about the laws of God. and the life, ministry and teaching of Jesus as flesh and blood during his walk on earth. the laws of god are given to us in the 10 commandments. Jesus taught humility, love, understanding, forgiveness and how to be in the world (the material realm) but not of the world. he also taught anyone that accepted him as their lord and savior. and followed him. would find life eternal. free will is about making correct choices. if someone chooses not to live by gods' laws and the teaching of Jesus Christ will not find life eternal in the spiritual realm. if someone has free will not to follow gods' laws and the teachings of our lord and savior Jesus Christ. they have free will to follow them. god doesn't want those who don't want a relationship with him or not willing to follow his rules. it's like your having a dinner party. would invite people that wouldn't respect your home. or people that would respect you, your home and the belongings in it. think of it like your parents' house. how do act when you go home for the holidays. or what if you took a friend with you. would expect that friend to respect your parents' home. or trash it while your there. Imo the bible is historical text. of the life of Jesus. that he did exist., he did die and was raised from the dead. it is the in between that is important. up until the teaching of Jesus. the only access to God. was through the Jewish faith and the teachings of the Jewish elders and leaders. if you weren't born into the Jewish faith. it was hard to convert to it. so that meant you were a gentile that worshiped many gods. paganism. Jesus' ministry, although he was born in the Jewish faith. his teachings and the disciples where not about the Jewish faith and traditions totally. they were more inclusive. what Jesus taught applied to everyone. he formed a new covenant with mankind, that is why the Jewish leaders and rabies hated him the way they did. Jesus destroyed the teaching of the torah and the Jewish traditions. there were a few reasons for Jesus dying on the cross and raising from death. 1 he fulfilled a promise god made to himself and his people after the great flood. never to destroy mankind that way again. 2 to teach mankind how to live in the eyes of God. 3 be the sacrifice for our sins. knowing man is not perfect. we haven't gotten it right since the creation of Adam and eve. by Jesus dying on the cross. makes us acceptable to God in his eyes. in his kingdom in the spiritual realm. 4 by accepting Jesus as our lord and savior. and following his teaching. for he is the way, the truth, the light and the life internal. (the new covenant formed with mankind that is all inclusive) 5 by raising from death. gave Jesus true and total dominion over both the material and spiritual realms. the light and the dark, one cannot exist without the other. if one exists than they both must exist. Satan has to exist because he tempted Jesus in the desert. there is still the issue of the fallen angel lucifer (Satan the prince of the darkness) the truth is not in the head. the truth is in the heart.

[@gunawanhadinegoro8763]

read the word of God in Bible instead of making baseless opinions

[@enough_chords]

The authors of the bible are anonymous

[@BestBuysReviewed]

Holy living is a prerequisite for experiencing God

[@blondetapperware8289]

No it's not

[@andrewdevore4799]

Who else just noticed was chewing gum or whatever in all his old episodes

[@CJBlake-ym6ky]

Most ppl live normal lives. Reincarnation, life after death, a man that died and supposedly came back to life is irrelevant. Cliffe, diminishing the ambitions of building relationships, and earning an education as vapid if god isn't the main reason for this ambition is a lie. It's like someone telling you that you won't be truly happy w/o a spouse or children.

[@statutesofthelord]

CJ, Cliffe told the truth of the matter. Jesus created us, so he has rightful ownership of all of us. How will it be with your soul on that grand and awesome day when Jesus returns surrounded by millions of shining angels to judge us all for these lives he has so lovingly created for us?

[@VainFriggus]

You’ve completely missed the point. The entire purpose of Christianity is building relationships because that’s what Jesus taught. “There is no greater love that to lay down one’s life for his friends” Maybe if you actually read the Bible instead of repeating things you heard people say, you’d understand. Stop making judgments about things you haven’t even given a proper look at.

[@gatehouse5209]

So, where was he wrong?

[@georgewagner7787]

Life after death will become relevant to you when you're 60 like me instead of 25

[@TomSanders-mi2bg]

What an ignoramus the preacher is. Doesn't listen or answer questions

[@georgewagner7787]

That's rude

[@marcmore633]

Guess Tom just added (' ignoramus') new word to his vocabulary 😮😊

[@abullock1969]

You cannot cause people to think their way into belief. That's not how it works. John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him;. You cannot intellectualize salvation or a relationship with God

[@blondetapperware8289]

Wrong. God save us a capacity for faith as well as reason, and we are called to use both. That verse from John does not debunk that. It is true we cannot come to entirely understand God in this lifetime as He is too infinite, but He does draw us to learn about Him and His ways. To ask genuine questions and to study. Thomas Aquinas wrote the Summa Theologia which we still go to today to defend God's existence and Paul debated the Greek philosophers of His time in Acts 17. Please stop spreading this and return to the scriptures.

[@abullock1969]

@@blondetapperware8289 The fact that you are saying "wrong" is indicative of the issue with this entire content. Its not about our capacity, it's about who God is. You are right, God is infinite and I am not speaking about study and conversation. If you follow this content you will see a typical outright refusal often times of people to accept truth and the subsequent frustration and argumentation by the presenters, who many times are caught in intellectual parlay, to the detriment of the entire purpose. Scripture is clear. 1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Furthermore scripture is also clear. John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." Much of this content is based on a mans ability, to deduce and understand, and show through a process of reasoning, even to the point of counter productivity, oftentimes mirroring the unkindness of the unbeliever. Belief and salvation are not something you can think your way into.

[@abullock1969]

@@blondetapperware8289 You cannot cause, because it is God that does the causing. The argumentative mentality is the issue with this entire content. Its not about our capacity, it's about who God is. You are right, God is infinite and I am not speaking about study and conversation. If you follow this content you will see a typical outright refusal often times of people to accept truth and the subsequent frustration and argumentation by the presenters, who many times are caught in intellectual parlay, to the detriment of the entire purpose. Scripture is clear. 1 Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Furthermore scripture is also clear. Once again John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." Much of this content is based on a mans ability, to deduce and understand, and show through a process of reasoning, even to the point of counter productivity, oftentimes mirroring the unkindness of the unbeliever. In acts, Paul did not become frustrated with those who did not receive Christ, he shared, addressed questions and moved on, in fact he warns believers about attitudes when dealing with non believers. Scripture consistently warns against being contentious. Belief and salvation are not something you can think your way into.

[@AaronVishnu]

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