Climate Change

[@alistairmciver9697]

John Clarke is probably New Zealand's best export to Aussie - our loss, he's brilliant and has a good foil in Brian Dawe

[@PetraZoeNZ]

I so miss John Clarke. RIP, you good bastard.

[@its22dm1]

These guys are great, I've just discovered them ...

[@abitu3568]

search for "the front fell off" its the best

[@SharonJackson13]

I just discovered him too and now he just died. I am so sad!!

[@picopup1]

Abitu Agreed.

[@PSUK]

Very similar to The Long Johns

[@dfortini1056]

One of many amazing "chats". I so fucking miss John Clarke, he would be awash in material these days... Thank you for posting!!

[@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor]

Lol he would not even bother with 2022

[@drdnooki]

John Clarke always brilliant, right back to the old Double J days and Fred Dagg

[@ninjamaster7724]

JJJ & JJ are the worst dogsh!t radio stations in Australia.

[@37Dionysos]

Sums it all up perfectly, doesn't it.

[@ianweatherley2467]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHvHon2rYpuNhtE

[@drg111yt]

Clarke and Dawe were excellent in so many interviews. December 2023 now, 16 years later, still "urgent" I suppose.

[@phantim_othy571]

2022 and this still is so relevant.....(Aka)John Howard really nailed it...😂😂😂 Clarke & Daw so ahead of there time

[@TwinkleStar987]

How delightful. Still dead on track. Timeless

[@nkelly.9]

John Clarke and Bryan Dawe, legends. little johnny howard? A skid mark on the underpants of Australian politics.

[@arthurgiannakis2156]

15 years later and we can look back and definitely say this is not a comedy piece but rather a factual documentary of how Australia's environmental policies have evolved over that time. Clarke and Dawe were definitely on point.

[@rocaflyn6252]

25 years ago... it was "urgent" Wait.. why aren´t you burned yet ?? hahaha

[@PTANV-x2g]

He’s taking “climate change” about as seriously as he should, considering it’s a NON-issue, for anyone. One of the main talking points used to support the idea is sea level rise and it is objectively observable by everyone’s own eyes that sea level has not risen meaningfully in all of recorded history, let alone since these clowns have been talking about it. There is literally NO hard, observable evidence to support the idea that the earth’s climate is changing in such a way that it presents us any risk at all. Get over it.

[@betkay1018]

Fortunately we also lnow hpw much h.s. became mixed in the so-called science !!

[@tsawy6]

@@betkay1018 uh-huh

[@betkay1018]

@tsawy6 WOW my spelling (not intended) sure made it hard - apologies !!

[@Wigenstad]

I bet John Clarke would have giggled at the fact people are actually discussing climate change in the comments. What a satire legend

[@Hana666555]

I know right, all those suckers who actually believe in Global Warming.... oh wait....

[@danyoutube7491]

@@Hana666555 Global...warming, did you say? Hold on, I'll just write that down.

[@kenigma79]

@@danyoutube7491 Sorry, that’s global…

[@gcaplan1]

Urgent for ten years 15 years ago now watching in 2023 .

[@Able4337]

Brilliant, Thanks for posting

[@flatsurfaces1913]

Yeah, looks better in capitals

[@deathzone5893]

12 years later, still urgent even tho nothing has changed

[@dogeymon83]

It’ll never change, as long as idiots keep believing it.

[@sarac.3568]

This was probably filmed much earlier than 2007? I could be wrong, just judging based on the video quality

[@dogeymon83]

And 100 years people like you will still be living on a planet that’s beautiful, livable, and will still be believing politicians that want more power that it’s still “urgent”. They’ll likely not know history, like todays people, and will keep believing it.

[@sarac.3568]

@@dogeymon83 Care to explain? Politicians are not the ones urging anything regarding climate change

[@verziehen]

@@dogeymon83 It became only a little bit more serious than fairies at the bottom of the garden. Tim Flannery bought a mansion on the river and at the same time preached unprecedented floods. Perhaps Selective Climate Change could make him sort of, kind of, credible.

[@pigpig252]

“Mr Howard it’s been urgent for 10 years” -uploaded 14 years ago Oh no

[@lukebrennan5780]

Urgent - truly hilarious. John Howard nailed it.

[@OwenIverson]

2007. 12 years later we STILL have people actually playing this comedy sketch out and being just as obstinate.

[@emilebichelberger7590]

Better than saying there will be a disaster soon with 0 proof.

[@geegeetomlinson2316]

@@emilebichelberger7590 Uh, you realise there has been disaster after disaster after disaster after disaster? Like saying there's 0 proof for disasters happening is like saying there's zero proof that the sky is blue, feel free to bury your head in the sand, but you're just making yourself look foolish.

[@emilebichelberger7590]

@@geegeetomlinson2316 There are natural disasters but there isn’t any truth to the extraordinary claims made about what’s going to happen in 1990,200,2000,2020,2050 etc

[@OwenIverson]

@@emilebichelberger7590 lol maybe go back to watching cartoons

[@twrecks6279]

@@OwenIverson No he has a point. Natural disasters are natural. That's why they're called natural disasters.

[@HA51971]

This is has aged very nicely

[@leemccurtayne9489]

This should be on all electronic billboards at the Glasgow Climate Summit

[@FutureMartian97]

I thought this was satire? This is just a normal CNN broadcast...

[@JordonBeal]

Sorry, you misspelled FOX.

[@deantaylor5177]

People need to see this URGENTLY.

[@suchevski]

Yes mate Effing brilliant, this mans comedy.

[@Jack-r2v9b]

16 years ago and it was Urgent 10 years before that.........sounds familiar

[@caninecurry5823]

I'm glad things have changed...

[@PhilosophicalZombieHunter]

Is it still urgent?

[@brentritchie6199]

These guys are just brilliant and John Clarke would be having a great time right now explaining the insanity in such a funny way.

[@ianmcleod3631]

All the years have passed and we are all dead, drowned burnt to a crisp because of the catastrophe , yet so many survived post cataclysm. Resilient hey...

[@xythx]

dumb but k

[@aidancampbell5644]

Ten years ago, and nothing has changed except its gotten more urgent and the LNP is now worse than the satire we used to make about them.

[@juliacook1697]

Even worse, look at what they did to, and said about, Gillard because she did actually do something during that period.

[@criddlegakes2650]

lol Julia Gillard did something? Wild

[@cryptokid1021]

Brilliant satire.

[@SirMarcNasa]

OMG oh mommy dearest this is FuNnY .. like Extrem FuNnY

[@lights0ut503]

No way th we videos are rhat old. Iv only just remembered these two legends and decised to youtube it and find the the rest their content to learn thr videos are old as fuck makes me sad.. these two giys still alive?

[@warrentrick2271]

What a pair, brilliant!

[@nickg1700]

The disclaimer KZbin puts up for videos like this are hilarious.

[@javic1979]

The day it stops changing is the day there's no longer anything that resembles this planet.

[@anomamos9095]

Sixteen years later they’re still singing the same song and we’re still waiting on this really urgent matter that doesn’t seem to be happening anywhere but in their heads or everywhere is heating up twice as fast as everywhere else.

[@andrewnelson3681]

Indeed. And the sea levels are rising at unprecedented rates, in fact, even faster than the experts had predicted. 😂

[@alanc6781]

Since 1914 the published maximum sea levels have gone up and down, up and down within a maximum of 6 centimetres. Since the last Ice age max, about 80,000 years ago, the earth has been hotter than it is now on 4 occasions. The climate is NOT linear. It is cyclical.

[@anomamos9095]

@@alanc6781 . Shhh You can’t mention facts to religious fanatics or Nazis and communists. Doing so will get you called a climate denier. Or worse depending on which one of the three finds your truths most inconvenient.

[@georgedabrowski6900]

Who needed those bloody koalas anyhow...? 🐸

[@docdaneeka3424]

another 10 years and basically nothing has changed...

[@dermie52]

Yes, that's right. Literally nothing. Plenty of snow on Kilimanjaro, high tide as high as it was in 1977.

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

Yep climate change/global warming has been an URGENT issue for over 10 years, and nothing has changed. Read that slowly and try to comprehend it. Climate change and Global Warming is the largest hoax in the world. It has more "believers" than Christ at this point i bet.

[@horseandcart5978]

In 1985 they were telling us that by 2015 the sea levels would all have risen by 2 meters!!!!!! Its's a load of BULL!!

[@driver3025]

Doc Daneeka 2018 and its all still so relevant.

[@Toggymok]

yeah - i thought we were supposed to be underwater like Kevin Costner's 'waterworld' . the hippies got it wrong again, like the JW's with their Armageddon gonna rid the world of evil. You can remove your tin-foil hats now people.

[@rics440]

13 Fkn years old! & no change of policy!

[@HoratioFitzbastard]

Amazing how many people just don't get the satire here. Or frightening. Or both.

[@finishstrongdoc]

" It was urgent ten years ago, Mr Howard..." " Is it still urgent?" "Well, of course it is!" As Scarlett O'Hara said, " Tomorrow is another day..." Well yes, Scarlett, tomorrow will always be another day.... But, of course, Scarlett isn't a real person, you see.... See how this works?

[@thisisnumber0]

Mr Howard here is more clued up than Brian...🤣

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

Its been urgent for 10 years...haha try over 60 years...yet we are still here...

[@siegfried1234]

Gold

[@ThrottleAddiction]

15 years later - the tide still comes in at the same level and ships moor at the same dock, Brian. When you say oceans are rising, is it supposed to be all of them or only the convenient ones?

[@Shunarjuna]

Global average sea levels have risen about 8cm in the last 25 years. Not much but it’s accelerating, doubling every 20 years or so which means in a 100 years we could see over a meter sea level rise in the span of 20 years. That’s not small potatoes.

[@ThrottleAddiction]

@@Shunarjuna You are making predictions based on current observations. While we may be experiencing an oscillation towards a slight rise in temperature currently, the 100 year trajectory will arrive at lower average temperatures than the present. Lower temperatures will of course reduce activity in the hydrological cycle - resulting in an increase of arid regions and less vegetation. Be careful what you wish for.

[@Shunarjuna]

@@ThrottleAddiction Yes, I’m making predictions based on current observations.

[@PTANV-x2g]

Shunarjuna talk about junk science 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@tonywadeson6605]

@@Shunarjuna i think if you are referencing paid out scientists yes - if you are quoting sea levels of non sinking areas of the plates you will find mean sea level has still continued to reduce at 200mm per 100 years. totally opposite to the pro climate change lobby crowd who want your land & more tax for the privilege of living on the planet when we could all simply consume a bit less of the earths resources every day

[@ericheckenkamp6091]

From an ABC News article: "Jan. 30, 2007 - -- A major new report on global warming slated to be released Friday raises new fears that the earth's climate is changing faster than anyone thought possible. Today, 500 of the world's top scientists are meeting behind closed doors to finish a landmark report on global warming, and the picture they paint is not pretty. They say significant changes in the climate could start happening within the next 10 years."

[@francisortwein9846]

Shut the fuck up chicken Little the sky is not falling

[@PTANV-x2g]

Meaningless gobbledegook. Soaked up by the ignorant masses who love to live in fear because of what their “leaders” tell them.

[@cincin4515]

1968. Shaking in my bed with fear because the experts told us we'd be dead in 20 years from the incoming ice age, the hole in the ozone and the acid rain. All that lost sleep for nothing.

[@stephendavid6903]

@@cincin4515 Bloody oath mate ... all bullshit from people with set agenda's to make money from putting the fear into the gullible masses... who swallow it , Hook Line and sinker!!!

[@Liloldliz]

​@@cincin4515the hole in the ozone layer is slowly being repaired by international action under the Montreal Protocol. acid rain has been reduced in most cities by restrictions on nitrogen and sulfur oxide emissions, and fuel quality standards. global dimming (increased albedo from aircraft emissions) has been reduced by fuel quality standards. see a pattern here?

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

Sixteen years later and nothing has changed, absolutely nothing.

[@joshuamurray9403]

Because climate change is fake you idiot!

[@michaelofsydney6128]

Really? We shut down our power stations and sell coal to China. It's a con.

[@vicweb1978]

@JonThm Of course it is mate. Where's my tinfoil hat gone?

[@cristop5]

@HumbleWillis "Ice Core Samples show us that of the last 10K years, 9100 of those years have been WARMER than today's temperatures" This argument is from Don Easterbrook who bases his case on ice cores from Greenland. There are two problems with it: 1. It relates only to the North Atlantic region - not the globe. In fact the Antarctic temps tend to move in the opposite direction to Arctic temps. 2. The Greenland ice core data only goes up to 1855. Greenland is now at its warmest in 8500 years.

[@PTANV-x2g]

All that shows is that we’re warming up after an ice age. Remember, those planetary cycles that we all learned about in school, but the super duper smartest of all smart scientists seem to have forgotten about?

[@cristop5]

@@PTANV-x2g The three Milankovitch cycles repeat at intervals of 100,000 years, 26,000 years & 41,000 years. They are all pretty much the same now as they were before the industrial revolution, just 250 years ago. In fact, satellite observations show that solar radiation has actually DECREASED slightly over the last 40 years. And there you were imagining you'd solved the "mystery". The mystery that is only mysterious to people who refuse to acknowledge that CO2 is a greenhouse gas!

[@drchicken2477]

@@PTANV-x2g far more quickly and drastically than any previous such cycle

[@PTANV-x2g]

There is literally zero evidence of any kind to support such an absurd claim.

[@memine3704]

​@@drchicken2477 Absolute rubbish. The Greenland Ice cores demonstrate at the end of the Younger Dryas Period, ~11,600 YBP, it warmed in the order of 10 C, in less than 5 years. So you do the maths, see if that's faster or not than the 'predicted' 2 C over 100 years. Funny how a 'local' Greenland warming as is the retort from idiots like the OP... also melted ice sheets in Nth America and Europe as well. Local, my ass. Global sea level rise of about 100 meters since the last glacial maximum ~20k YBP, most of that in 2 pulses corresponding with the start and finish of the Younger Dryas. But that's local they say...pffft. They also suggested the Sthern Hemisphere gets warm when the Northern goes into a glacial maximum, 'they move opposite'. Absolute nonsense. A lag time between them sometimes isn't 'moving opposite'. And no, they don't show we're at our warmest in the Holocene at all. 2 times just in the last 2000 years we've been warmer. For eg, Vikings were growing crops in Greenland 1000 years ago, where it's still perennially frozen today. Romans were growing grapes in the UK ~2000 years ago, where they can't today because it's colder. Climate alarmists don't know WTF they're on about. Sprout absolute BS. Smh.

[@christopherbriggs9526]

Its been urgent for 10 years now, do the math that puts it at 1997 and its now 2021 so 24 years now the earth has been warming and climate change, ahhh when is the world going to end again?

[@haroldgarrett2932]

natural disasters have increased 5-fold in the span of 50 years. the global temperature has increased, droughts have increased in frequency, intensity and duration, flooding has increased, hurricane max speeds have increased as well as frequency in certain regions (mainly the atlantic), heat waves have increased in intensity and duration, etc etc etc in the span of decades. just because you have your head firmly up your rear end doesn't disprove the literal thousands of studies on it and the historical data from every corner of the globe.

[@PTANV-x2g]

Harold Garrett literally not one single thing you just said is true 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@kerravon6058]

@@PTANV-x2g Well Joey that just proves you to be a Liar and nothing more .

[@688landerson]

2007!

[@florinadrian5174]

16 years later and it's still urgent and the Aussies are still doing worse every year.

[@Neslakim]

It's almost 10 years later and its still "urgent"-.-

[@Mike_Sunshine]

It most definitely is.

[@nicholasbradshaw]

We passed the urgent mark 30 years ago. End of 2018 signalled our entry into the “we’re fucked” zone.

[@witblitsfpv1265]

Now it's 26 years later and still not urgent. 🤣

[@DavidChadderton-g7d]

How could John Howard, PM retired, and all further PMs, change the climate of the whole of Earth? Hmmm?

[@Robert19002]

Put resources into climate change mitigating technology. Government funding though grant programs assists R&D into programs that otherwise wouldn’t see the light of day. Pretty simple.

[@cristop5]

@HumbleWillis 1. The LIA and MWP were not global and were not related to CO2. You seem to think this somehow means that present warming can't be related to CO2. But that doesn't follow. 2. "Hey, you wanna know what else explains the sustained warming trend?" Sure I would like you to explain what you think is driving it, but your answer does no such thing. So which of the main climate drivers do you think accounts for the warming trend?

[@timmcgrath9708]

I don’t understand this. What have I missed??

[@alpeach9480]

Education

[@timmcgrath9708]

@@alpeach9480 Indoctrination maybe?

[@anthonydodwell5085]

brilliant

[@gcolnr]

Excellent politician deflection

[@loontil]

Seas are rising, dun dun dunn, and the ones telling us buy waterfront mansions

[@dev4statingx90]

Frigging youtube has to out a climate change warning banner on this video lol

[@rogerthat487]

16 years ago it was urgent 10 year ago😂🤣🤣

[@chrisalexander6716]

the green religion are a comedy piece

[@meganbreeze763]

If only we did something back in 2007!

[@julianwarmington1267]

Yeah... or 1957: seen that clip from Bell PSA c.1958? They knew about it quite clearly then. Or even 1987 which was about the time observed changes were becoming so clear they started talking about it in the US parliament.

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

We have only 10-12 years before the planet is doomed!!! And we've had this 10-12 year threat for over 60 years... I remember the urgency of the acid rain issue and the hole in the ozone....

[@campbellmanderson943]

@@GCEXTREMEMN the hole in the ozone was fixed by countries working together to phase out those chemicals over decades, it worked.

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

@@campbellmanderson943 hahahaha that's hilarious...good one.

[@GCEXTREMEMN]

@@campbellmanderson943 the hole in the sky that was created by chemical was magically fixed by more chemicals. Yeah yeah i remember the whole issue about Chloroflorocarbons CFCs from aerosol cans and styrofoam and how they caused the "hole in the sky" and how if we didn't do something we all would DIE!! Yet we still have Styrofoam and spraycans...sure you can say they are made different, but maybe do some research on the companies that went out of business due to CFCs and then research the new ones. Most of the time, the people selling the solution, were the people who created the problem. Cough cough **covid was made in a chinese lab funded by the US government and US tax dollars**cough cough ** Pfizer and big pharma are in league with the corrupt politicians who funded the creation of the virus...soooo they can make $$$ on the vaccine.**cough cough

[@cristop5]

@HumbleWillis No climatologists believe that CO2 is the only factor that affects global temperatures. Variations in solar output, ocean currents, volcanoes etc also drive temperatures up and down. But they are cyclical or sporadic. CO2 is the only factor that can explain the sustained warming TREND we've seen over the last 30-40 years. If only there were climate scientists who argue global temperatures must be in lock step with CO2, you'd have a point instead of a strawman 'argument'.

[@duncanwallace7760]

Writing URGENT was the last useful thing Howard did on climate change or the next three PMs on his side of politics.

[@lysisfilms]

if it wasn't so URGENT this would be hilarious.

[@PTANV-x2g]

It’s not urgent in the slightest. “Climate change” isn’t affecting human life in any meaningful way. Period.

[@markwng]

Oh dear, none of these catastrophes came to be, maybe it was never that urgent after all.

[@haroldgarrett2932]

frequency of natural disasters is up 5 fold in 50 years. how nice it must be to live in a bubble.

[@PTANV-x2g]

No they’re not you imbecile 🤣🤣

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Speak to china. Australian actions are insignificant.

[@Ozziemick]

Would love to John Howard’s face when he saw this. He would be like…fck!

[@Delivered0ne]

All we need to do is correct the Earth's tilt, recenter the polar axis and correct the ocean currents, ...now what will we name that tax?

[@jameskelmenson1927]

The Earth will always be the best planet to live on, at least until other planets are terraformed. I have travelled more miles in my life than just about anyone before the automobile. Humanity can be nomadic, we can congregate in arcs, we can live in floating cities above the clouds if we really want - a space cruiser wouldn't make a bad place to dance. All the while we can still be gardeners and stewards of Earth. The solution to climate change will never be changing the climate, atmosphere, and planet faster than it itself is changing. The solution is to adapt, and to ride the waves of change. We can evolve ourselves to have gulls or wings, we can teach people to don exosuits, Iron Man suits, in the case of a disaster. There's a lot of sfuff we can do. What's the course of action we can take that will end up minimizing our future regrets? That's the course of action we should take.

[@stuartwait3886]

Ha ha very urgent 😂

[@eric4946]

We don’t have any water. Don’t be silly Haahahahahah

[@christophersimons128]

Still the woealition, COALition policies to this day, just swap slo mo for johnny rotten...

[@jasonh.8754]

One thing we do well is send delegates overseas to international climate summits on a regular basis, telling us all we need to reduce our cabon footprint by shutting down most of modern society, except of course for the regular international climate summits.

[@Hakudohshi]

HAHA, OBFUSCATION!

[@jaymatsen9418]

What’s funny is the climate has constantly changed from the ice age…

[@kerravon6058]

Hey good for you - some more satire ! , John Clarke would give you the thumbs up for sure .

[@ross4970]

14 years old.....the world was supposed to be over by now.

[@gregiles908]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ceeemm1901]

15 years later and look at the state of this planet! Imagine if climate change was REAL!!!!!

[@zdrux]

Climate has been changing for as long as the earth has existed, someone should tell these guys.

[@iancurtis1152]

Zacly

[@TinyFord1]

12 years later and the globe hasn’t gotten any warmer compared to what it was back then...

[@PetraZoeNZ]

Except that it has.

[@flowerpower8722]

12 years in geo history wouldn't even register on any scale. 200 years would not register. The problem here is the insane arrogance of humans.

[@PTANV-x2g]

I’ve been on this planet long enough to know that the damn place hasn’t gotten any warmer at all. The oceans haven’t risen, the planet is no closer to burning up now than it was when I was a kid. Get over it.

[@purplexs2506]

@@PTANV-x2g You might like to check the situation in Northern hemisphere 2023 summer.

[@Redskies453]

​@@purplexs2506I looked into it. Apparently it got hot. In summer.

[@108doublestitches]

Can't believe lefty KZbin thinks people laughing at the global warming hoax is deemed to require a disinformation warning. Assume this comment will be censored by the orthodoxy police.

[@virgiliapamutongan6317]

Expert in money matters but not science.

[@johnpurssey6880]

None of the PMs since Howard have been either.

[@ennesshay5040]

The 7.40 video ''The Tipping Point That Will Destroy the World | George Monbiot.'

[@arenbesim1571]

HAAAAAAA

[@BigAl53750]

15 years later and Tim Flannery’s warning about there not being any rain in Australia due to GW, is an atrocious slap in the face to all the people who have suffered through the devastating floods in the last decade and a half. Around 1,000 years ago, Vikings who had settled on Greenland were growing crops successfully enough to export boatloads of grain back to Scandinavia. Those settlers farmed livestock and various crops for over four hundred years, on land that today is as snowbound as Antarctica. This is well documented, but the elephant in the room is the fact that the world must have been several degrees waarmer than it is now, because you couldn’t possibly grow crops and raise animals on Greenland as it is today. Anthropologically produced global warming is a ridiculous myth, as many meteorological scientists have said. Of course, they are censored by those who stand to make the most money out of it.

[@haroldgarrett2932]

scientific consensus for anthropogenic climate change is estimated at 99% across 88,000+ individual studies from every corner of the globe, so your use of "many" might be a bit of a stretch. cherrypicking data is akin to pointing to increased rainfall in one period or location to disprove a drought in another period or location. climate change increases rainfall because of increased water evaporation. pointing to changes in temperature at some point in the past completely misses the fact that those natural temperature changes happened over the span of thousands or millions of years, and our current changes are happening in the span of decades.

[@PTANV-x2g]

No they’re not you idiot 🤣🤣

[@EllusivSmith]

Not very real, not very urgent.

[@michaelofsydney6128]

ABC climate hysteria

[@garebear1015]

If you had ever "toured" northern Minnesota,you would see highway and tens of miles of trees.Would you be in paridise?Some people who live there are.So be it.

[@dermie52]

Funny how we haven't seen the predicted 6 metre sea level rise, the end of snow and the absence of rain.

[@AlwaysAC]

That’s right let’s not do anything about it until it’s too late. That way we don’t accidentally make things better for no reason.

[@chriswatson7965]

No-one has predicted a 6m sea level rise in our lifetime, nor the end of snow. We get the absence of rain all of the time, they're called droughts. You can pretend to be the village idiot if you want, but please don't infect others with your desire for wilful ignorance.

[@chriswatson7965]

@Daniel M The "they" you are describing is the mass media, not the scientific literature. Isn't climate always changing? Yes, but that is not what AGW is about. I'm not surprised that you are confused, you appear to be someone of profoundly stunted intellect, raised on the US belief that everyone is entitled to express an opinion no matter how ignorant.

[@chriswatson7965]

@Daniel M I am referring to the literature that I read. I don't need a meta study to tell be what's in the literature. "Also did you know that carbon emissions rise AFTER the temperature goes up, not before?" - so if I pump an atmosphere full of CO2 first, then at a later date the temperature rises (as it inevitably will whether there is a correlation or not) then somehow according to your law, I've found a way to bend time. Alternatively consider this - man is able to do what nature cannot. Just because you don't understand the literature and the science and thus have been swayed by pseudo-intellectual garbage isn't an argument against the reality of AGW. You will note at this point that I haven't been arguing any of the science. I've found doing that in these forums to be a complete waste of time because I inevitably reach the capacity of the person I am talking to. Finally that's a novel attitude towards free speech. I haven't heard that one before and it's obvious drivel because much speech and language is banned in every country because it incites conflict. The concept of "freedom of speech" has a highly complex history, and relates to the optimum functioning of a society based on its culture. It is highly culture specific.

[@chriswatson7965]

@Daniel M When I started discussing these matters a number of years ago I would always make the assumption that the person I was talking to was capable and willing to understand scientific concepts. Many, many hours of hard fruitless work taught me a bitter lesson. That limitation was not necessarily intellectual, sometimes the person just wasn't right in the head. I now start with the assumption that the person I am conversing with is incompetent. It saves me a lot of pain. If you want to have a genuine discussion on the subject I am happy to do so, but your comments so far on AGW have not filled me with optimism. Yours is a starting point that I've encountered many times previously, and have wasted hours addressing to no avail.

[@seanconnell2065]

John Howard (prime minister) maybe best remembered for his classic climate denial.

[@DavidChadderton-g7d]

Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason

[@CrRodney1]

Funny but sad

[@keith3761]

Its called a interglacial period and we are fine.

[@haroldgarrett2932]

"interglacial period" temperature changes happen over the span of thousands or millions of years. Current observable climate changes are happening in the span of decades. You are a moron.

[@Diponty]

LOL! @@haroldgarrett2932

[@lucasedmund3600]

meanwhile in China. What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jamessquire1]

Clarke and Dawe may be extremely clever and entertaining but they are also extremely Left of centre. Their bias show clearly in every show they do. Sometimes it's not what they tackle - it's what they don't.

[@tonyq39]

Well said, brother, 🤝

[@HumbleWillis]

@cristop5 In fact, Ice Core Samples show us that of the last 10K years, 9100 of those years have been WARMER than today's temperatures by an average of FIVE DEGREES FAHRENHEIT! The planet is SUPPOSED to be warmer than it is today. It was already warming before the industrial revolution. It would have been warming with or with out it, and there's no way to honestly prove we have anything to do with the temperature increase.

[@dfortini1056]

Dear HumbleWillis Do you realize this skit really has absolutely nothing to do at all with either global warming or climate change? Sincerely Ms Political Satire