Climate Scientist explains Just Stop Oil

[@ClimateAdam]

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[@oleonard7319]

after 40 years of watching this nothing is going to happen and we will be over 2 c. when push comes to shove we don't have the ability to replace fossil fuels and we are trapped

[@blameofphones2719]

The things just stop oil demand will not happen. You do give me an impression that you are someone who has not engaged with any of the literature, contrary to your beliefs or ideology.

[@irallan]

Seriously bloke only fools think CO2 is a problem.

[@classicalmechanic8914]

You are apologist for angry confused activists that are sponsored by Getty oil heiress. Why in the world would oil giants want to support climate activism? (Answer: to use even more oil and throw shade on enviromental activism)

[@RichardStamey-o9v]

The top 10% of wealthiest world citizens produce over 40% of all carbon emissions. Why aren't you taking away their 100,000 sq ft mansions, multiple houses all over the world, 200 yard yachts, and private planes? Guess pollution is ok if it's by wealthy people who give you funding to attack poor working class people.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

My experience tells me that tactics such as those used by Just Stop Oil are ineffective.and may actually have the opposite effect.They make climate activists look like overly emotional wing nuts instead of people with legitimate concerns about climate change. Climate activists need to get their own houses in order as well. For example, the cause of fighting climate change is harmed when Greta Thunberg, arguably the patron saint of the cause, comes out in support of the de-commissioning of a newly constructed wind farm in Norway.

[@swaggersmacswagger1712]

That’s the plan if the oil companies I think. I heard somewhere recently that one of the early creators of just stop oil is the son of one of the biggest oil guy

[@richardv.2475]

I don't think there is any good tactic for this. And if there is no good tactic, then any tactic is a good tactic ...

[@menotonline]

i just want to shed some light on the tactics aspect .The tactic used are mostly nabbed from historical social movements (civil rights, suffragettes, LGBT+ movements)and they were all met with very similar responses that we are seeing against just stop oil today. Within social change theory, just stop oil now occupies a space named "The Radical Flank". I'm sure we've all heard the criticism "i agree with the message, not the tactics", people become more informed, resulting in more moderate organisations such as extinction rebellion, earth first and green peace gaining traction. This increase in sign ups has been observed since jso has been in the news. Also why does being emotionally connected to the climate crisis make someone's concerns about it illegitimate ? please emotionally connect to the climate crisis, your allowed to be upset when rich people make life-threatening decisions at the expense of yourself and your future.

[@FVBmovies]

@@swaggersmacswagger1712Assuming we’re talking about the same person, he wasn’t the creator, but large donor to the cause. Ironically he withdrew funding after protesters disrupted too much, if remember correctly, didn’t let emergency services through. After massive public outrage protesters changed their policy and let emergency transport through.

[@ROCKINGMAN]

If your protest is for the good but causes harm, you won't get sympathy.

[@K4TEN]

agreed

[@TheMoinomedian]

Whatever inconvenience these tactics pose on regular folk they're nothing compared to the horrors climate change has had on communities that don't have a strong government to save them from droughts, fires, etc. The cause is good, and as you say the tactics have people speak on something they normally wouldn't.

[@jameshoulihan84]

If you annoy the people you need then who do you have? Affect the politicians and the companies, it’s easier for them if we argue amounts your selves

[@satyapalyadav4468]

is it easy to reach politician have some common sense

[@Harleyqueenmusicofficial]

It’s responsible for my attention on the matter, and likely many others in a world where the leading media outlets aren’t focused on justice they serve the government

[@HT-vd4in]

Well I think big oil is actually financing these protesters, because they actually do the opposite of what they claim: When people get stuck in traffic because of them, they are saying to themselves „I will burn extra patrol just to stick it to these dumb protesters“.

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@satyapalyadav4468 So because it’s _slightly_ difficult to do, you won’t even try? Pathetic.

[@hattielankford4775]

History agrees with their approach and predicted your asinine response.

[@oszaszi]

I understand the frustration, but how they act, how they speak, the worry and passion seems a bit too cultistic. In addition, their argument is not well versed and not well presented. It is like that because their means are questionable. When you get into an argument and you can only repeat a stupid one liner statistic that you memorized, when the question is asked "why are you doing it in this way?", then the problem is you cannot argue, because you know you are wrong. Do not misunderstand, I want a good future for our world, but this is just making everyone who was a general Joe, and could have been convinced, to be utterly disgusted and turning away. I live in Switzerland now, and I do believe that the way to be green is based on strong government backing, but also people policing. Alas, this is culture. You cannot force the change of a culture from one day to another. That is what conquerors done, not what "peaceful" protesters do. I am so disappointed in today's generation. Be better...

[@htfanai3447]

The biggest problem is that they annoyed hell a lot of peoples, peoples have to work, to eat to produce for themselves and their families to survive still despite all the problems, they may understand if they pursue it the other way around, without causing problems to their own peoples.

[@CaptainGlack]

Frankly, if I'm on my way to work and I'm held up by protesters that's clearly not my fault and any reasonable boss would understand the reason for the delay. Still gonna get paid that money, still gonna feed my family.

[@A.D.540]

@@CaptainGlack not every boss is the same tho

[@L0thl0rien]

Consider the number of commuters in this country. What percentage of those commuters have been affected by this group? I suspect it's in the. 0.000000xxxxxx percent. You all think it's affecting us all because you're told to think that. Stop being sheeple and wake up.

[@AnkhArcRod]

@@CaptainGlack Yeah. When you are seriously sick and need to be taken to hospital, I bet you will be just as happy to be late for your appointments. Your statement is ridiculous. Protests of this nature do everybody disservice. The scientists are already fighting this battle at all levels needed. Any other form of activism of this nature has more negative effects because the sentiment is swayed away from what is actually the right thing to do.

[@RealNameNeverUsed]

@@CaptainGlackHow about the ambulance drivers who can’t get to their patients in time? Or the food deliveries? The nature of the jobs are not the same as you and I.

[@fordycycles]

Surley if they are stopping traffic they are just causing more immisons anyways due to the cars that are idling 🙄🙄🙄

[@philmcgladdery1398]

The problem with their tactics is they make me want to burn tyres... And im all pro solar and wind and think its insane that the UK hasnt gone down the tidal lagoon route. Their protests are counter productive and deter people from openly supporting their goals, even if they agree with them.

[@jonnhanzo9529]

Greta Thunberg was saying we would be living in Water World in 2023….. I was hoping that be a reality. Floating cities and stuff. 🤣🤣🤣 yall let me down

[@oufc90]

If oil is ‘stopped’ today, then what’s the viable alternative that we can immediately introduce?

[@Epck]

Horses lol

[@MisterSpeedStacking]

there's none. it's going to take at least 50 years for the world to be ready to quit oil and gas

[@dasvintage2182]

Thank you. This has helped me understand these protesters better. I feel for them.

[@Betelgeuse2142]

They are incompotent and take the bareminum route of helping the planet, they are ot heroes they are babies who hold their breath in protest

[@robmullin1128]

Preach this to China and India,they are the worlds largest producers of emissions. Every country in the world can enact strict regulations on fossil fuel but India and China will continue on thus making any and all regulations a moot point.

[@teamakesgames]

I've seen people claim it's a psyop funded by big oil because a daughter of an oil company donated to a fund that finances Just Stop Oil - despite her never actively having anything to do with oil business except for the money from her parents. Donating that to climate funds is based actually.

[@ClimateAdam]

Yeah I really think that is such a distraction... Which is exactly why some people are so fixated on it!

[@Withnail1969]

If people want to stop using oil that's fine, they need to stop eating in that case.

[@eagercadet4059]

Still find it ironic where that money came from

[@owenorders5202]

You'd be surprised just how many of these organisations the CIA, MI5 and other government agencies infoltrate and surreptitiously sponsor, for their own purposes. Often they deliberately clandestinely finance opposing factions.

[@Gamez4eveR]

I think it's a psyop by big oil because the protests are outright idiotic

[@RichardRoy2]

I'm still surprised by how many people I've met who don't think it's real. But I am aware of the lengths the carbon fuel industry will go to secure their profits, which includes lying and deceiving people about the issue. No matter how many ways it's brought to the political and social world, the development of still more sources continues. To me, stop oil is a step I'm not about to protest. If there's fear of it causing people to dismiss the issue, I'm afraid they're already dismissing it, and the carbon fuel industry uses their behavior as an attempt to create doubt. They do that anyway. Not sure how this is going to change that. That soupgate thing was pretty good, except they didn't damage the painting. I think the artist was enough of a radical he may have approved if he thought it did some good. The message was that the wealthy are only concerned when their wealth is as stake. It was a good message. To bad the wealthy don't hold the environment as highly as that painting. It's a work of art.

[@alileevil]

I would like a single person in the comment section to not use any products that have been generated with fossil fuel for a single day. You can all go ahead and throw away your phones, leave your homes and stop eating food :)

[@ClimateAdam]

soooo I'm unsure what point you're making. it's clear that today's economic, energy, and manufacturing systems depend heavily on fossil fuels, and that they're next to impossible to avoid in our day to day activities. which is a problem since fossil fuels are driving climate change. and that's why we need a structural shift away from these fossil fuels.

[@mikehodson9727]

I agree with cause but not method blah de blah , however people will resist feeling bullied and dominated particularly by people they feel are not connected to their experience of daily struggle I.e rich kids and the ‘loony left ‘ ( don’t shoot the messenger here ) the message people are receiving is. ‘I’ve weighed the cost to you of my actions and I think it’s worth it ‘, it also doesn’t help that the spokespeople come across as cultish and ignorant these demonstrators are hitting a number big psychological drivers that are causing extreme hatred towards them and nothing else . So if just stop oil etc are causing support to fall aren’t they able to reflect on this and strategise ? I see no sign of this . More likely to cause a class war and serious injury or death than thru are to achieve any success in increasing public awareness or support . Everyone just hates them for being belligerent ignorant and spoiled bullies .

[@fluffia89]

I'm a centre-left leaning voter and support renewable energy. But I'd vote for the right-wing to stop these traffic terrorists.

[@TheRiboka]

Sad to see people in such a state of frustration and helplessness that they feel the compulsion to behave like this. It's total self- deprecation and self- sabotage and from the outside looks like cult mentality.

[@Lyonessi]

I do wonder if they have truly exhausted all other options to voice their opinions. Ultimately the PR is as important as the product for people. Do people get convinced to follow a leader who indulges in obnoxious inconvenience? It seems to me that many annoyed civilians see these acts as a show of moral incompetence. When you can't make wise charismatic moves in engaging with your enemies how can we trust you can make any with those you lead? By all means, individuals should be allowed to protest but how is just as invaluable.

[@simonsan5271]

It is a Cult. Seen an interview with a jso spokes woman and the lady behaved like a crazy person. These eyes of her will give me nightmares... Seen another interview with a jso dude who said "we will do WHATEVER it takes..." - if thats not a cult I dont know what is.

[@mamela11]

What else can you do in an emergency, when everyone just goes on as normal and the news and media only talk about climate change when disruptive protests happen. Are we not all self sabotaging ourselves by not doing something about countries missing targets and on course to overshoot even 3 degrees?

[@zeroyuki92]

​@@mamela11 Then target the politicians, the media, the oil companies themselves -- I bet no one will be against protesters blocking politicians from their office alone. Targeting general public is like vigilante killing civilians to send message to the elites.

[@rajeevkamal1610]

It's thanks to there protests that I came to this video and now I have great respect for them to tolerate such harsh reactions from public.

[@DecadeAgoGaming]

Everybody stay calm, we'we just been informed the second can has hit the Van gogh

[@Merlin3189]

If this is typical of the calibre of PhD's in Climatology, we should have 0% trust in 97% of them. How did he ever pass his viva?

[@peter9477]

Gee, I missed the part where he discussed anything in this video that would provide you with the basis for such a judgement...

[@Merlin3189]

@@peter9477 @2:00- temp is proportional to CO2? "fill up" the atmosphere? @3:00 on- series of contentious claims about the effects of increased temperature @3:20 all countries are not signed up to the PCA @3:30 keeping fossil fuels in the ground is not the only way to maintain the CO2 level - eg sequestration His "needs" are undesirable options - ie. not necessities - towards his goal of ceasing fossil fuel use etc. etc. (I really can't be bothered to comment on nearly every sentence he uttered.) TBH it's not so much his views that bothered me, so much as his presentation. Emotional rants, with opinions cast around like facts, assumptions skated over without any acknowledgement and absolutely no consideration of any other points of view but his own. Clearly he could not be failed on his emotional stance, but it would surely make a panel very sceptical. He looks like he has torn his garments and let his hair hang loose, now he should be crying, "unclean, unclean, unscientific." He would need to be much, much more convincing in his answers to the challenging questions he would surely get. But on reflection, it's not his viva I think he would have failed, because he'd never have gotten that far. Any self-respecting scientific department would never have taken him on a PhD program after a rant like that.

[@peter9477]

@@Merlin3189 I see you're confusing writing or defending a PhD with "science communication".

[@Merlin3189]

@@peter9477 But he's not communicating science, just an emotive rant. Yes, maybe he'd work better in a formal situation? But it scares me these days, the sort of people becoming professors! We used to admire and respect them, even when we disagreed (mostly!) But people obviously listen to him, so that says something.

[@TheDanEdwards]

​@@Merlin3189 Adam is trying to reach the masses and in doing so has to grossly simplify climatology. Your protesting over this simplification is noted, but how will *you* communicate climatology to the masses?

[@gavwilson3413]

Explain to everyone exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, what a world without fossil fuels would be like? BTW, you won't be able to do without using fossil fuels, or materials and services provided by them, yourself.

[@cclambie]

If you have ever been to Zurich, it would be something like that. Farming and related transport via synthetic or electric fuels. Clothing via carbon farming from the atmosphere or carbon capture at concrete factories. Flying greatly reduced, but powered 100% by SAF. Train and PT is main form of distance personal transport, bicycle or walking would be local. Meat and diary intake greatly reduced, replaced with existing plant based alternatives, already super tasty. Overall people would work less, be happier and be more community minded.

[@Benandlandon]

Psychiatry is most appropriate to unpack these psychopaths.

[@simonabunker]

I initially thought the Van Gaugh stunt was a bad idea, but seeing the amount of discussion it has spawned has changed my mind about that. Just a few seconds of action has done a lot more than traditional lobbying ever could. But I think this can only work once or twice as the novelty is the big talking point. There is probably space for this sort of sensationalism now and again, but we need people behind the scenes to be pushing better policy too. I don't think there is a silver bullet to getting this done - I guess we need to try every avenue we have available.

[@Withnail1969]

The protesters don't know what their own demands would result in. Food production is dependent on fossil fuels. We will starve without oil and gas.

[@iknowyouwanttofly]

We could have spent that time working on realistic solutions instead..

[@simonabunker]

​@@iknowyouwanttofly such as?

[@ThinkingWithTunneler]

​@@simonabunkerimplementing new policies and new trchnologies in place, it is slow but is much more effective

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

"Stop oil", yet you need it to make windmills and solar panels 🤔, which end up in landfills when they are obsolete.

[@Assenayo]

These people make me want to see emissions rise even further, just to spite them.

[@ClimateAdam]

so you want to damage the planet and the people who live on it further to spite two teenagers? seems completely healthy and normal.

[@youropinionsareshitandsoar1954]

​​@@ClimateAdam so it's completely sane and normal to block people's way? That literally have nothing to do with what's going on? Ok sure 🤦

[@michaelgoulding6609]

​@@ClimateAdami want to see coal mine,s to open up all over the uk, cos i dont belive burning coal or oil has done or is doing any damage, when ever i see anthing that burns coal i,m automaticly atracted to it, & i love the smoke & the smell of it & anything that can burn it from an open fire in a room to the largest steam engine & i can remember not that long ago when the whole country was massivly dependant on coal, infact so much dependant on it that if a guy worked in the coal mine,s during ww1& ww2 then he was automaticly exempt from getting called up to fight for his country. & as for peoples health, there is more people with health problems today that there ever was, kids having to us inhauler,s cos of asthma, which when everyone had open fires was vertutly unheard of,

[@obamatherock9397]

In my opinion, while the message of just stop oil is a good message, their ways of protesting were stupid and ignorant. Them spraying streets and chucking food onto paintings, I could just feel sorry for the people left to clean up the mess. And their blocking roads part, while cars are bad for the environment and should be reduced on the roads, them blocking buses is criminal as it hurts the environment and people who need to get around. A protest should be respectful of the general population as it’s better publicity for the movement.

[@seekerout]

Yes. Let's cover the land with solar arrays and surround ourselves with bird-chopping windmills. Let's stop oil, coal and gas and install batteries full of toxic metals mined by children in the third world. Let's raise the cost of energy beyond what small manufacturers and ordinary people can afford. In short, let's deliberately unleash environmental and economic havoc on our country rather than invest sensibly in strategies to adapt to climate change. A warmer climate and higher CO2 levels aren't all bad and are certainly not as catastrophic as you predict. We can adapt. But only if we behave like sensible adults, not panicked children.

[@pygmalionsrobot1896]

The message I got was that oil paintings are bad, and that they are opposed to oil painters such as van Gogh, who painted with oils. I think you need to check your facts about CO2. The JustStopOil people don't care about CO2, they just want people to paint with acrylics. This I think is a reasonable request, since oils dry so slowly, and are often subject to yellowing over time.

[@rdberg1957]

Complacency and inertia are the enemies of survival. Activism will arouse ire among some, but some have no willingness to engage with the science. If activism points out the problem and some solutions, we won't be any worse off if some are alienated.

[@bazoo513]

I fear that all this manner of "shock activism" does is facilitating those who dismiss climate activists (and, by extension, scientists) as "loonies". Extremely counterproductive, I am afraid. This will not help "people thinking about climate change more", it will help them dismiss it. I would go so far as questioning the true motives of "just stop oil", just as i question motives of anti-nuclear activists. Fossil fuel money reaches far. I hope I am wrong.

[@AnimaRandom]

Yes. Its counterintuitive What they're targeting are the people who have zero choices Like let's be honest here. Most of our day to day activities are so embedded with oil If you want to lessen or freed the society from usage of oil U gotta either innovate or push for policies Its slow but better approach

[@ednecker4525]

I just want to stop by and say this if you truly want to stop oil i can help Stop using it with all your supporters Stop using anything made with or manufactured with oil . with all your big talk do it you dont need to make all of us if you will just show us that you will take action and stop using it you can make a difference, and if you live then you can expand you cult .

[@jbijnens]

What about the claim that the earth warms up first and that this causes an increase in CO2?

[@Nick_80599]

And wasting soup which could have gone to someone without food. These people need to get their priorities right

[@Hannah-y2z]

Srsly?

[@Nick_80599]

@___hannah. yes seriously, outside this very building are scores of homeless people, the way they are acting is actually pushing people away from their cause. They might as well help the oil industry lobby governments, they need to win over the general population and right now, they are doing the complete opposite

[@A.D.540]

what are we going to use as replacement solar and wind dont always work let alone produce enough unless you want to use nuclear power as replacment. dam and thermal are also point less since uk doesnt have enough volcano or river for all its population. Coal isnt option since it more toxic then oil. this protest is pointless since stop oil has no back up plan to replace oil.

[@medicinebeats1253]

A scientist repeating junk science propaganda, shamefull

[@olliesworder1146]

For people that argue "i agree with the message but...", and think they have a better way of doing it, *go and do it, show us how its done!* as a planet, we need creative solutions and protests from the people, and every person shouting from the rooftops helps! It's too easy to criticise from an armchair, but so many people haven't put thought to how to protest in better ways, or gone and put their plans in action, so what we need is every person to show us how it should be done!

[@ClimateAdam]

great point! just like there's no one tech that will decarbonise the planet, there's no one way to raise our voices which will resonate with everyone!

[@SaveMoneySavethePlanet]

Brilliantly said. I’m getting real tired of the armchair critics (brilliantly depicted in the barber scene in this video) who are all too quick to point out the flaws of every action but never seem to have their own ideas of what we can do.

[@SaveMoneySavethePlanet]

@@WolfHeathen maybe. I bet people said similar stuff about the sit-ins which occurred during the civil rights movement in the US though

[@elliebarnes2776]

The issue I have personally is when I hear that ppl with medical emergencies have suffered consequences due to these protests. A protest a year ago which put me off this form of protest was when a lady who was suffering with a stroke was being driven to a hospital but because of the roads being blocked off with protesters she became paralysed. Her health comprises for a cause. I understand the message and support it but everytime I hear about ppl gluing themselves to the road all I can think about is what this person went though, who could be next, what if that was me. It haunts me. The message is positive but the repercussions and image of certain demonstrations have been tainted with horror and anger in my mind. I'm not saying that I have the answer for what the right way to do it is but I still know what's wrong. And I think that matters more than finding a better approach is to stop doing what's putting others at risk. Also I'm not here to argue and value your opinion and you do make a great point, I just wanted to express my concerns in a safe and friendly manner

[@olliesworder1146]

@@elliebarnes2776 I completely understand why you'd think that, and that's certainly an issue; I know with XR they have a blue lights policy and let through any emergency vehicle, but with JSO obviously they're a bit more stoic. To respectfully counter that, I would raise that inaction, and not protesting/making headlines/getting change, it dooms future life/our lives in the future, and given the awful system we've inherited whereupon only these sorts of protests gather media attention, it seems an awful balance between immediate cost, and the cost of inaction, which may be felt for thousands of years. It's a truly awful value judgement for anybody to have to make and I completely understand why someone may take a position like you've posed. There just isn't a perfectly good way to deal with this perfectly awful situation, I think

[@chriscoffee4552]

The ironic thing is that the folks who created this artwork were more climate friendly than the actual protesters themselves. We need to focus on what things in life we can eliminate. If the demand for excess things decreases we will have an impact. Unfortunately the world is full of people that want more stuff, bigger houses, lavish vacations, extensive wardrobes, etc...

[@bennyramone]

Throwing soup at a painting does not make me want to question the use of fossil fuels or the idea that human activity is altering the climate.

[@ClimateAdam]

have you seen any activism that has helped you engage in those questions in a more meaningful way?

[@douglasnisbet1189]

Why don't they start a political party and stand for election? If they have support then they'll get elected and they can implement any policies they want. We're meant to live in a democracy, aren't we?

[@ClimateAdam]

in the UK, the 'first past the post' voting system means that this would be virtually impossible to succeed. in other countries that have proportional representation, you often see much greater representation of such ideas within coalition governments, for example.

[@5tw3b45tcf]

Just stop oil people will never do this in Dubai lol.

[@gisela4120]

I've been waiting to hear your opinion about this event 😊. Personally, I don't think this kind of action helps people to act or think about climate change in a positive way. I believe that this strategy is not directly proportional to the reduction of fossil fuels. Anyway thanks for sharing your opinion and talking about it as always.😊

[@ClimateAdam]

thanks for your thoughts! are their protests or actions (from any group) you've seen that you've thought "that's how you do it!"?

[@hat_maker]

@@ClimateAdam thats such an important question to ask people who are saying "this isn't good activism" - it begs the question, what is the right way, then? Can you demonstrate it? Loved the video !

[@gisela4120]

If we knew the answer to this question, activism and its results would be easier. I don't know which way is the best. I believe more in positive action such as this Chanel that with humor and acting shows reality and allows us to think about climate change.

[@hat_maker]

@@gisela4120 the past tells us that the fundamental shifts we are looking for are often unfortunately only gained through more drastic actions. I don't think we can criticise one type of climate activism simply because we do not like it when we are talking about human extinction. We don't know what will work yet because nothing has - these girls completely disrupted all timelines and explicitly named the fossil fuel industry. that is a step in the right direction to me

[@Jerundd]

@@ClimateAdam In my opinion the right way are the school students skipping classes to go and protest climate change. Way more large scale, more accepted by the boomers, so much more effective. Man, I really cannot wait until all boomers are out of power and the young generation is.

[@TheGreatBlumpkin]

I’ll never trust a single word coming from a person with your fashion sense

[@osmanaj2002]

Put all "Activists" in to STEM and force them to find a technological solution to all this

[@desthomas8970]

Sorry you wasted your time in university.

[@nicevideomancanada]

Greenland will live up to it's name.

[@axiomaddict]

I recall that during covid lock-downs, how quickly the water became clearer, how quickly the air cleared, how wildlife began to be more in evidence again. I imagine that a rotating scheduled “day off/shut down” that various nations could agree to implement might be a quarter-measure that would be helpful. Certainly wouldn’t hurt.

[@ezniyazov7970]

The globe has warmed around 2 degrees Celsius the past century and not only did we survive despite this, but flourished thanks to advances in modern technology and fossil fuels

[@Gamez4eveR]

You seem *extremely* confused about rising global temperatures.

[@anezka.k2498]

Thank you for this amazing video, I got very confused by Just Stop Oil protests and this really helped!

[@jaydelee1169]

I’m a hairdresser and it’s hot topic and has been for years / today we even covered the Amazon rainforest and discussed the vegan diet x

[@ClimateAdam]

that's so cool - have you noticed a trend in how much it's brought up?

[@cclambie]

I wonder about that too. Are these events causing people to thinking differently or more positively about making changes? Or just digging in their heals more?

[@YangCT]

Thanks for the informative video! Hm, it would be interesting to see this movement in other, not so tolerable nations :o

[@axiomaddict]

That would likely mean a country like the US, where I live. Since this country is so much larger than the UK, we have a highway system that is considerably more extensive as well. Prior to the 1950’s, we travelled across the country by train, but locally by traditional means. The rise of the highway system, auto industry, obesity, and credit card debt are inextricably linked. We are a stressed and impatient population. And armed. I don’t think it would go well. I don’t think that “Just Stop Oil” protests would be well-tolerated here at all. And our police are armed like paramilitary units, another firery ingredient to add to the cocktail.

[@YangCT]

@@axiomaddict I was thinking more of like… Oil countries in the Middle East 🤔, but you have a point

[@anthonycole6452]

But motorists are paying road tax to use the roads. Mot, Car Insurance, Ulez, Congestion Charges, Services, repairs to there vehicles. And putting fuel in there vehicles. And car parking. People have no rights to stop motorists for useing the roads that they pay for. People have been driving there vehicles for Decades. Its not going to stop People driving there vehicles. You know that. People go to work to put money into there vehicles. People pay high prices for there vehicles to drive. What for People sitting in the roads acting like there 5 years old. People need to crow up. And protest at the gas company office's, Power plants and parliament. Not blocking up roads. Or ask to speak to the ministers are involved in this matter. For a interview with them. (DONT TAKE OUT ON MOTORISTS THERE NOT THE GOVERNMENT ARE THEY).

[@cypress1337]

Thanks patrons and adam for the vid!

[@richardlyon67]

"The more fossil fuels we burn, the more greenhouse gases there are in the atmosphere, and the hotter the world becomes". [1] Set aside the fact that (i) 90% of the energy in the climate system is located in oceans that exhibit millenial, centenial, decadal, and annual cycles that (ii) Adam can observe but doesn't understand the physics of so is forced to omit them from his toy models and therefore (iii) his models omit 90% of the phenomenon he claims to be able to predict. [2] The effect he is describing here is the 4% by which we alter the annual natural emission of a gas that comprises 0.04% of the atmosphere. Another theory that supposes such levels of dilution are significant and interesting is the pseudoscience of homeopathy, which you already ignore. [3] 50% of the earth's population - 4 billion people - relies on food produced by hydrocarbon fertilizers, and will starve to death within a few years of "Just Stop Oil" achieving its ideological objective. Climate Catastrophe Theory is pseudoscience based on toy models. Just Stop Oil is a death cult. That is all you need to know to understand this Climate Scientist's explanation of Just Stop Oil.

[@anmayo917]

These micro-terrorists make me personally care less about climate change. In my eyes many of them are just very narcissistic and antisocial and deep down don't actually care that much about the specific cause, they simply wanna be disruptive while still feeling/getting seen as morally justified in their actions. So the whole topic tends to make me angry instead of worried about climate, which means i never really looked into it. Even worse, when i recently asked an activist what i can do in my personal life to help, they couldn't even tell me because they didn't know. I'm relieved you didn't try to defend them, otherwise it would have made it harder for me to keep listening Edit: maybe that's just me though of course

[@mark4asp]

Dr Adam Levy - Calls himself a "scientist". Last time I looked a scientist is a person who does actual research into the real world. Dr Levy does not research, and his KZbin channel describes him as a "Science Presenter & Communicator". Yet, Dr Levy has a doctorate in atmospheric physics. That does not make him a 'climate scientist'; because to study earth's climate one must also study ocean circulation, geological evidence, solar variation and solar-planetary interactions, volcanoes, ...; not ONLY the atmosphere. Here's Dr Levy hyping 'Just Stop Oil'. He fails to condemn their vandalism; which seems appropriate to me because the reason Just Stop Oil nutters are protesting is due to hype and fear manufactured by science activists such as Dr Levy.

[@ReasonablySane]

Yeah, they want people to be more aware of what they, personally, have been convinced is of utmost importance (though it may not be. i.e. they may be someone else's willing puppet.) They remind me of people with "Free Tibet" bumper stickers back in the day, only crazy with narcissism.

[@MrCorpsy6]

They are also using vandalism, you forgot that. Some French equivalent group might have partly destroyed a painting a couple of days ago, for instance. I have yet to understand their message though, because they can't go past slogans. I do get that it would be great to reduce fossil fuels, but at the same time, at least in France, they are against nuclear power and are conveniently forgetting Germany's coal power plants fiasco. I'm wondering whether they are genuinely concerned about pollution and its consequences.

[@geraintellis7188]

This person s comments may be right. I genuinely dont know. I do believe some experts disagree. They should get a platform. But why target innocent people who are just trying to go to work to feed their families. They are targeting the wrong people. We live in a democracy, They should stand for Councils and Parliament. I found this person very smug. Lets hear the opposite view.

[@kynchan3332]

It is time to end the climate change tax grab industry (both political meddling and computer modelling, sit down and do nothing). Cut off all funding immediately and all climate paranoia will disappear and the activists will need to retrain to do something useful like become builders and plumbers.

[@liamcollinson5695]

I just don't understand attacking art it's not like van Gogh or the people who built stone henge used oil money or even had cars so it seems stupid to me and probably makes people hate them so why would anyone listen

[@jamesm28]

As long as economics are the driving motivation within our world we'll continue to hold the almighty dollar above environmental and humanitarian concerns. That's the stark truth.

[@Mr.Paticles]

The actions of these activists bring the climate change debate into focus for all the wrong reasons. Instead of disrupting the movement of the entire society they should instead create or innovate technology that is more efficient and more environmental friendly. Their focus in energy and oil is like asking society to die. Rapid climate change started during the 1st Industrial Revolution. The increasing improvement of the global quality of life rapidly increased global demand. In short it increased ecnomic output which encouraged mass industrial farming to provide food for everyone. And when that is not enough we turned to oil to fuel everything. So in the end, Just Stop Oil basically wants society to turn back time and live in the Medieval Age.

[@Timlagor]

+1.5C is not "ideally" -it's just the lowest that was remotely plausible. It is just an arbitrary number. Any actual scientific threshold would be set much lower.

[@Alasdair37448]

I think that going after art was a poor choice however I agree with being as disruptive as possible blocking roads placing propaganda everywhere staging load noisy protesting front of government buildings exposing the hypocrisy of the government ect. My only hope is that this is enough to force the government to make concessions otherwise more drastic measures might need to be taken against oil and gas infrastructure directly. I think we are still away off from such drastic action but at this point we must consider that the government may not be willing to negotiate without at least the threat of violence. This being governments of the west not specifically the UK.

[@Dermisc]

Yes, enlist the help of the public by ceaselessly annoying them and obstructing their daily lives. And when the public tells you that you are annoying assholes, retaliate by attempting to destroy famous works of art - just because it's an "oil" painting.😅 This stunning display of brilliance and thoughtfulness has markedly improved the credibility of their message. There's only one problem though, how are poor people going to afford clothes without all the polymers that we derive from fossil fuels? Oil isn't just for burning, genius. Actually, one of many problems.

[@jeffmosteller7175]

It changed more than1.5 degrees everywhere, every day between breakfast and lunch and it's ludicrous to postulate and increase in 50 years will do nothing. And death from natural disaster are down 90% the last 109 years the medieval warm was warmer than now, there is no climate crisis

[@MichaelBrooksmsb400]

You do know that the more trees there are, the more they obsorb the CO2. So, why not promote the planting of 100 trees for every tree cut down? Climate "Crisis" solved, right?

[@LRayV]

Good video firstly. But my opinion getting everyday people to discuss how powerless they are to change their death via climate issues is pretty meaningless. The fat cats causing the problem have to be targeted. Awareness is good, but people weren’t in the dark, and even in the light they have no control so… there’s no point to this

[@jamieowens723]

Yeah, they got the attention. Now the majority hated the group regardless of their good cause, what a smart move.

[@kingkezz9188]

Climate scientist. Fancy way of saying, you failed chemistry, physics and biology. Got cut from those units but still wanted the word "Science" on your school certificate. So you took an extremely simple, basic, watered down version of science, unit; environmental science.

[@ClimateAdam]

both my undergraduate (MPhys) and doctorate were in physics. but nice try.

[@kingkezz9188]

@@ClimateAdam So if i ask you physics questions from my 5th and 6th form textbooks. You will be able to answer?

[@kingkezz9188]

@@ClimateAdam An object is traveling in a straight line. Its acceleration is given by a=Dt^k where D is a constant, k is a real number, and t is time. Find the general equations for the position and velocity of the object as a function of time.

[@kingkezz9188]

@@ClimateAdam Lets see your "physics" phD. Entry level physics question involving mild use of mathematics unit. If you answer this I'll know youre not bsing. 😁

[@kingkezz9188]

@@ClimateAdam I have a centripetal force related question for you next. 😂😊😊😊

[@gordonspicer]

I hear Stop Oil are consulting Solicitors with a view to sueing Directors of UK based Oil companies for damages. I wonder if the potential future Plaintiffs appreciate before the case "gets off the ground" the Defendants are very likely to apply to thje Court for an Order for SECURITY of COSTS (If they loose). This is not uncommon procedure and used often to prevent frivilious or unnecessary proceedings. If successful (it will be almost for sure) that each Plaintiff will be examined as to their means & assets and their ready availability. Thereafter, subject, to investigation, each will be required to deposit substantial liquid funds with the Court and or allow charges on their homes & assets before the case can proceed. It can be ruineous ! This action is usually very dissuasive as the Plaintiffs seriously risk not only having to pay their own substantial costs but that of the Defendants ! I hope they reflect very carefully. Of course the Plaintiffs may resort to GoFundMe, but the Court are still likely to allow the Defendants application "to concentrate their minds" and possibly to protect the Defendants & shareholders for any losses should their defense be successful

[@kynchan3332]

I'm going to keep burning stuff. Log fires are lovely. My diesel car is so reliable so I'll keep driving it.

[@MoonDog991]

Not all of us can make a living wearing sandals and composting our breakfast, the average person has a family to care for and a job that supports them.

[@boathemian7694]

A lot of ignorant religious fanatics actually want this to happen because in their insane minds it will attract Jeezus and fulfill the crap they want to happen. Many of them are in power.

[@narvuntien]

So I have been a climate activist, Australia, since the 2019/2020 bushfires. To me this feels really untargeted, including the road blocking. We have been fighting a new gas development that if it goes ahead will run until at least 2045 and produce 1.6 billion tons of CO2. (also potentially damage aboriginal rock art in the area). We have had most success targeting Sports and Arts washing by fossil fuel companies. They are trying to be noticed for the good things they are doing so, we make sure that people know about the bad things they are doing. Today we launched our campaign for a local sports team to drop the company starting this gas field as their major sponsor. We are targeting something people a lot of attention to and for a direct connection to fossil fuel companies actions, giving them money to appear like they are a good local coropare citizen. Of course we have dedicated activists outside their HQ every Monday to remind the people working there, that they are part of the problem and they have the option of not participating in it. If they are at HQ they are professionals they can change jobs easily not like bothering a diller or something. The third prong is aimed at the CEO and the Shareholders, but usually only get the AGM and shareholder meetings to ask our pointed questions. Although if the CEO shows her face we like to be there. They are making the decisions they are the people responsible for the issue. The Fourth is suing the pants off them. Hasn't worked but we will keep doing it, to produce ongoing legal risk for the project.

[@ClimateAdam]

definitely get that - I think it's notable that so few of the articles about the action even mention what was behind it (hence me making this vid!). that said, it seems unfocused actions get a lot more attention. does that outweigh the fact that the attention is less informed..? I have no idea!

[@narvuntien]

@@ClimateAdam We did manage to get national T.V attention with this appeal to dump the sponsor but its actually part of a larger fight with sportsmen and women also pressing against Fossil fuel and a particular mining companies sponsorship at the same time.

[@byrongsmith]

The target is clear, necessary and urgent (as ClimateAdam outlined). The risk is that the tactic might occlude focus on the target. But that risk is only realised if, in the aftermath of public attention having been gained, climate communicators fail to seize the opportunity to communicate.

[@narvuntien]

@@briantulloch7222 Hey Brian, you are pretending here that science is on your side but you know all this information due to the hard work of climate scientists who all agree it is happening and caused by humans. What is it about climate change and the action we need to take to stop it that threatens your way of life? Do you have V8 you don't give up? Do you like to go off-roading? Is it the very need for international co-operation that you find scary? maybe you are part of a fringe political movement called right Libertarianism that is shown to be nonsense in the face of shared environmental concerns.

[@kingkezz9188]

Bush fires caused by the ban of backburning by the greens.

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

The projection from 280 ppm to 560 ppm would increase warming by 4C. We are already to 420 ppm that puts us on a trajectory to 2C assuming a straight line curve (1st derivative). The curve is slightly logarithmic and excludes methane. There was not one scientist going in to COP15 that thought we could stay below 1.5C. The cuts we need must be much steeper than the commitments.

[@ClimateAdam]

just a couple of quick points: firstly temperature's relationship to CO2 is indeed logarithmic. secondly, once we stop emitting concentrations of CO2 would gradually decrease as the oceans and land absorb some and equilibriate, so the concentration we stop emitting at isn't our final concentration. I know several scientists who've been considering 1.5°C for a long time, but honestly back at the time of COP15 it was less a scientific question and more a policy question. now, though, the science tells us just how incredibly steep the cuts would need to be to have a chance to stay under 1.5°C

[@Peace2051]

Combustion is the problem; Methane is the accelerant. Just Stop Hydrocarbons.

[@michaelgoulding6609]

the artists name is pronounced, van goff, ( although obvs,ly not spelled that way)

[@kathrynbrown6955]

I assume you never travel in any kind of motorised transport? Never buy processed food, clothes, etc? Don't heat your home? Live a 'good life' existence? Even if a few countries adopt JSO policies, other countries will not and the difference will be negligable. Damage will not be undone. We need to look to a higher source for real help. "God will bring to ruin those ruining the earth". Also, See Psalm 72, Revelation 21......could go on ..

[@ClimateAdam]

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[@pupspups349]

A silly question I know, but what do we use instead?

[@ClimateAdam]

not a silly question at all. thankfully analyses for most countries (including the UK) shows that the tech we need is mostly there. in particular, this means renewables (for the UK this is primarily wind), in combination with nuclear fission, energy storage (batteries, pumped hydro, etc) and potentially fossil gas with carbon capture.

[@ofeyofey]

If we're in a climate emergency why are flights not being cancelled and all but essential services.

[@iknowyouwanttofly]

I really really dislike this type of actions it does not make me want to do things for the climate at all.

[@ggb5583]

Another great video. Funny and informative and urgent!! Thank you for carrying on this channel

[@ClimateAdam]

thanks so much! honestly, comments like this make it so worthwhile!

[@dstarley]

Initially I was worried how people react, but then I noticed the amount of attention it generated, and read some threads from prominent figures like Peter Kalmus - and I have now come to the conclusion that it is tragic this type of protest is necessary to get the importance of the phase out of fossil fuels onto news headlines. I think we can all agree a habitable planet is a prize worth some minor disruption.

[@kathryngannon485]

I f this is so bad why are celebs and so called elites buying coastal property? If this were true, the sea levels etc; you wouldn't; be able to get insurance for the property.

[@ClimateAdam]

funny you should mention insurance..! www.cnbc.com/2022/08/07/climate-change-is-making-some-homes-too-costly-to-insure.html

[@sexybrian]

Felony mischief. They should go to prison

[@alessiaconstantin7408]

Finally someone who looks at the matter from a neutral point of view and doesn’t just throw hate in all directions because of the tactics used by the activists. Thank you for this video!

[@ClimateAdam]

thanks a lot Alessia - that's lovely feedback to receive.

[@ClimateAdam]

What do you think of Just Stop Oil's approach? And if you don't like it... what do you think would be the best approach?

[@shaunaburton7136]

People used to throw fake blood on people wearing fur and people stopped. But it’s really easy to buy a different coat instead of fur. The easy swap for coal, oil, gas is not there yet.

[@SaveMoneySavethePlanet]

I wish they didn’t have to resort to publicity stunts like this in order to get attention, but people have been trying to get attention “the right way” for 40ish years now unsuccessfully. Every year that goes by will make the situation more extreme and so the actions will become more extreme as well.

[@toychristopher]

It's refreshing to see people actually treating this like an emergency.

[@lightshark8562]

I just think that they should be punished by law - hard. The thing about anoying is, if you want to change anything in a Democracy you have to get over 50 or even 66 Percent and to annoy the public is like losing their votes in masses. So if you want to protest - don't do it to the people - do it to a/the person that could change it (without violence).

[@philst9669]

So the current plan to extract more fossil fuels will overshoot the goal of limiting climate change to 1.5 or even 2 degrees. Try the german way and do a mass lawsuit against the government? Maybe that could work.

[@shanekerrison6570]

Why in the UK ,when there in Germany and other countries?can anyone tell me ?

[@olliesworder1146]

I think that there are so many people that argue "this isnt the way", and "they should target the companies/govt", but ppl like XR, JSO, etc, have literally been targeting Govt, oil terminals, think tanks, etc., and have barely any press - with a media system that seems to favour only the most controversial headlines, this is the only way to get climate into the news that isn't a huge natural disaster amplified by CC... And personally, I've been completely inspired by JSO's actions

[@chris4973]

May I recommend you read some and get yourself a little educated before demonstrating just how uninformed you are on line? Maybe begin with Sheldon Wolin’s Democracy Incorporated, then try Howard Zinn’s The Peuple’s History of thé United States. Once you have a basis from which to write intelligibly, perhaps folk will listen to you without dismissing you out of hand

[@olliesworder1146]

@@chris4973 are you able to sum it up, to save me the time? :)

[@natesofamerica]

They should have destroyed fossil fuel infrastructure, not art.

[@neoluna1172]

Personaly I think we need to take the sort of actvisim, and focus it in places that will atuly hurt the evil fossil fuel corperations, occupy some refiniers, stop oil trucks, TP gas stations, stuff like that. This both gets the public talking AND dsirupts oil corperations. It also forces the polluters to becomes part of the convo, and thus get called out.

[@kye4216]

What do you think will happen to energy prices without oil?

[@zentouro]

truly missed opportunity to put a 🍑at 4:44

[@ClimateAdam]

Miriam plz this ain't that kinda channel.

[@TheDudleyReport]

Thanks for this video Adam. I am an activist with extinction rebellion in South Australia and support just stop oil for sure. Glad to see the climate emergency continually being forced into the media.

[@nyali2]

Why is there a climate emergency? Could you just write a few basic numbers for us please?

[@anvilaberdeen1289]

What the frick does the nuclear silo have to do with stopping fossil fuels?!....😂

[@ClimateAdam]

if you're referring to 3:59 - that's a cooling tower from a coal plant. power plants that use steam to turn turbines generally have cooling towers. they're not exclusive to nuclear plants.

[@byrongsmith]

I feel like the point of the action was to open a space for people like ClimateAdam (and you, and me) to (a) point out that the painting was not damaged (and the activists knew it wouldn't be), which makes (many) people suddenly calm down and go 'wait, what?', and then (b) raise the question of just what should be done about climate disruption. This gives a chance for precisely this kind of content to enter the discourse and public consciousness. On the one hand, this helps to establish consensus around the goal (the scientifically-based demand of Just Stop Oil) while enabling further discussing about the various tactics that might be used to achieve it. Even if people end up rejecting the tactics of Just Stop Oil, their work will have been successful, since it may well spawn all kinds of other efforts. And if that is the case, then their tactics might, ultimately, be confirmed as (strangely) quite reasonable...

[@radscorpion8]

Should we engage in petty vandalism as a tactic to get people's attention, and then attempt to redirect their attention in useful ways that benefit the world? Or perhaps, would it make more sense to simply engage in mass protests in appropriate spaces, hand out pamphlets, create works of art (there are some places in cities where graffiti art is welcomed), door-to-door knocking, and other forms of direct and positive activism to get the message across? Why do you specifically have to destroy or vandalize something? Should we dump paint on your house next, record your shocked reaction, and then say - you know, its just paint! It can be cleaned off! By the way, would you like to learn about climate change? Or perhaps instead would you like someone to visit your home and ask you politely to sign a pledge, or take some action on climate change? I don't understand the motivation or the need to basically engage in mass vandalism, and in some cases much worse when people block the roads and the ability of emergency vehicles to use them which veers into outright terrorism. I don't care how spectacularly urgent your demands are. In a democracy, action is not performed by a minority on the majority. You can't simply block all the roads as a way to enforce that your demands are met. You can not destroy as many public works of art as possible until the public capitulates to your demands. There are appropriate means and channels for taking action. All that said, you have plainly forgotten about the most obvious downside of this action. That a lot of people get frustrated and irritated that they can no longer commute to work, or that the artwork they took time off to see is now at least temporarily ruined. For all we know these might be sacred religious or cultural icons that are being desecrated. People are not necessarily the most rational beings. If you anger enough of them for long enough, then they will be turned off of climate action simply out of the emotional turmoil you put them through. And frankly its not like taking action in the UK alone will avert climate change so I see that argument as being considerably persuasive. So there. Have your pick of the reason. But I just think this form of protest is not only nonsensical as a means of generating action, but it actively makes things much worse. Whatever poll Adam cited about how the public are calling for more action on climate change, I assume he is smart enough to know correlation does not imply causation. I strongly suspect people are recognizing the importance of climate change IN SPITE OF these protests, which actively do harm.

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

Stop oil, yet you need it to make windmills and solar panels 🤔, which end up in landfills when they are obsolete.

[@eriktheone8219]

I came here to watch a lady in red but i was wrong😊

[@pjRaging]

Governments should be doing what the Australian government is doing, removing all use of plastics, funding more into green energy and banning petrol cars by 2030 doing so will make oil burning pointless and push people into getting electric cars and putting solar panels on houses.