Clinchers Vs Tubulars Vs Tubeless - Which Tyres Should You Choose For Your Road Bike & Why?

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Global Cycling Network

9 жыл бұрын

The clinchers vs. tubulars debate is long running. Which tyres should you choose?
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Clincher tyres are the standard; they're almost certainly what you had on your bike when you first got it. Tubular tyres are the pro racers standard; they need to be glued to your wheels, which takes a bit of expertise, but the pros had steadfastly refused to move away from them, even though excellent clincher tyres and wheels are now available. And, now there's a third option, tubeless clincher tyres. These have been used in mountain biking for years now, but have proved more difficult to adapt to the road and are yet to really gain much traction in the pro peloton, although they do offer lots of grip.
Which do you ride? Let us know what and why in the comments.
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@_AJH_
@_AJH_ 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2020, love the new presenters but I wish Matt was still on sometimes, especially for the GCN Show
@victorcordon3411
@victorcordon3411 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to Matt?
@chris_bern
@chris_bern 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorcordon3411 He quit gcn 2 years ago to focus on commentating and he now has a show on sigma sports
@lastpme
@lastpme 2 жыл бұрын
Me too….I like Matt too and miss watching him on GCN 😢
@cokeman9135
@cokeman9135 9 жыл бұрын
This is the top gear show of cycling. It's informative and funny. 4.75 stars.
@cokeman9135
@cokeman9135 7 жыл бұрын
9.75
@abelardoruiz5544
@abelardoruiz5544 7 жыл бұрын
Naughty.
@badline8621
@badline8621 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect score 5/7
@willgoogletakethisname3963
@willgoogletakethisname3963 6 жыл бұрын
Out of 3 stars ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@rollinrat4850
@rollinrat4850 4 жыл бұрын
Coke Man It may be funny but it's mixed in with too much marketing BS. Remember, a sucker is born every minute and fools are soon parted from their money!
@superfisto
@superfisto 9 жыл бұрын
This experiment was brought to you by REYNOLDS.
@Annunaki_0517
@Annunaki_0517 5 жыл бұрын
Back when I was racing much more actively (amateur level, Cat3) I used to run tubular Zipp 404s for racing, along with a Fir carbon rear disc wheel for TTs, (and I would mount the tires using the Tufo tape method, which worked like a charm and was miles easier to mount with so much less muss and fuss. However, I did read that in some rolling resistance tests, the Tufo tape did add a small amount of additional rolling resistance ( due to increased hysteresis) vs the traditional glue-brushed-on-rim method. In the front, however, I did run a Hed3 tri-spoke clincher with a latex tube (which has been shown to add materially less rolling resistance with latex tubes over butyl tubes, but the pressure does need to be topped up daily or even more frequently for rides lasting >6hrs. I never got involved with tubeless, as it was relatively new technology back when I was racing avidly (2003-2010), so perhaps that might offer even less rolling resistance given that there's no frictional losses between the inner tube and outer tire carcass. Maybe this is something the boys here on GCN might want to look at in a more scientific fashion, perhaps some sort of controlled roll-down test. Well that's my $0.02. Hope some might find it helpful.
@markitoxi
@markitoxi 8 жыл бұрын
This is the best Cycling channel!
@gcn
@gcn 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marco.
@jeremysweeten2792
@jeremysweeten2792 9 жыл бұрын
I love my TLR Tubeless Trek Wheels and Tires. I commute to work through major industrial zones, downtown city streets and also ride centuries on the paved roads of SoCal mountain ranges. In over 2,000 miles, I have never had an issue and they offer great 'road feel.'
@olaniyiosofisan2633
@olaniyiosofisan2633 4 жыл бұрын
The bike is solid, nothing sound on it even though I did not fine tune it just put it together, well pack and easy to put together. It's fast and I feel the gear ratio is perfect, share4.photo/RoadBike?Cの I live in Florida everything is flat here so it's perfect, even when I'm climbing it feels nice and light. Brakes are good too, everything feels of good quality till you get to the pedals. In fact the treat in one of them was almost bad I had a hard time to install it. Saddle I ok as well, after 20-25 miles it hurst without bicycle shorts with bike shorts it's not so bad.
@elidouek5438
@elidouek5438 9 жыл бұрын
The best way to describe matt's little anecdote at the end, is as a senior moment
@jamesbanks5597
@jamesbanks5597 5 жыл бұрын
The world of road biking never ceases to amaze me. Because I am a mountain biker and the most common opinion for a mountain biker is "get a cheap roadie for road rides". A lot of mountain bikers are under the impression that the only difference in price for road bikes is weight after about 600 dollars..
@iftekhar77
@iftekhar77 5 жыл бұрын
where would i be without GCN much love 🇨🇦
@DaveKaiserIII
@DaveKaiserIII 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding advice and you're asking good questions!
@aaroncogs
@aaroncogs 9 жыл бұрын
for me, its a set of Conti Competition tubs for racing. What GCN forgot to mention in the almost linear-like cornering feel you get from tubs as compared to clinchers due to their round profile.
@Unboxcityunboxcity
@Unboxcityunboxcity 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s do a 2020 of this ☝️.
@chuchuchip
@chuchuchip 6 жыл бұрын
I tried Tufo tubular clinchers. Basicly tubulars that fit on clincher rims. Very hard to put mount on rims, but work very well. I found them very durable, liked their ride but only in 25 is the widest.
@MaryOKC
@MaryOKC 6 жыл бұрын
When ever I have a question I can ALWAYS count on you guys to answer them and love your humor.
@Xyz-ij6rh
@Xyz-ij6rh 3 жыл бұрын
In 2020 I ride 25mm GP5000 TL and i absolutely love it feels great is absolutely fast even with lower pressures no need to worry about Bad Roads anymore
@leftymadrid
@leftymadrid 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video, helpful for many I am sure, I am into clincher, tire n tube. I love the feel of 700x23-24 tyes, so nice...
@thatsthatdude
@thatsthatdude 8 жыл бұрын
Good review gents... I feel that Clinchers for Road and Racing and Tubeless for Mountain Biking. Good stuff guys!!
@gemsandlasers269
@gemsandlasers269 9 жыл бұрын
Really great comparison. I guess that clinches it for me.
@CoolStuffGuysLike
@CoolStuffGuysLike 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I got an old set of Mavic GL330 wheels and am going tubular. I am hoping with tubular tape it won't be too big of deal
@SuperBardley
@SuperBardley 6 жыл бұрын
Mine: me -> 150lbs, Vittoria Diamante Pro 25mm clinchers + Vreedestein latex tubes = >3,000 mi/yr with zero flats. Fantastic ride feels very similar to the tubulars I've tried. My cousin (225lbs) used to get a flat just about 9 out of 10 rides he did (2-3/week), then he switched from butyl to latex tubes and manages to routinely go at least 3 months without flatting. The formula is simple: latex + high thread count tires (>= 220 tpi) yields a much more compliant ride than the mass-market 160 tpi tires + butyl rides. Interestingly, one of the most experienced riders in my local club tried latex and hated it because "the ride was too grabby and lively." LOL Also: Without a doubt, and average route speed comparo's over the same route have proven it every single time, I log much faster speeds when I pump up my tires to 115lbs than when I pump to 95lbs. As a side note, I positively hate the feel of Conti Gatorbacks & 4-Seasons, they just feel wooden, dead, disconnected. I am lucky that I am light enough to get high miles on my tires, but even if I didn't, I still would probably speed my hard earned $$ on better tires rather than another faddish jersey or cutesie socks.
@samarthchaturvedisam
@samarthchaturvedisam 6 жыл бұрын
I just love your channel !!! And miss Matt a lot 😣
@velocity324
@velocity324 5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless are awesome in the city because you can run a soft, grippy tire without worrying about punctures. You can't run a decent performance clincher otherwise because they flat too often (too much crap on the road) I started out on Conti GP 4000s 25mm a few years back but switched to gatorskins after about a month because I would get a flat at least twice a week. Gatorskins never punctured but were like ice skates in the wet. Recently switched to tubeless zipp tangentes at 25mm and they give you the best of both worlds. Love them.
@phillipdelaney2989
@phillipdelaney2989 8 жыл бұрын
my local bike shop is selling 29er inner tubes super cheap and when I asked why, I was surprised to hear that they were converting most bikes to tubeless, in-house.
@danieljakubik3428
@danieljakubik3428 5 жыл бұрын
Can we redo this debate now in 2019?
@deeznutz8033
@deeznutz8033 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Jakubik right, everything’s tubeless
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 4 жыл бұрын
@@deeznutz8033 Or Clincher for touring bikes.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 4 жыл бұрын
@@deeznutz8033 Or clincher for touring saddle bikes and no air tubeless for MTB that are held in by a bead and pressure, if not that then solid for MTB, and some city bikes.
@andrewmartinez6873
@andrewmartinez6873 4 жыл бұрын
this channel is awesome and these guys are cool, i love it!
@peregrina7701
@peregrina7701 9 жыл бұрын
Clinchers all the way. Inexpensive and easy to fix on and off the road.
@antred11
@antred11 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. At least for those of us who aren't obsessed with shaving off another 10 grams of weight.
@imyourmaster77
@imyourmaster77 Жыл бұрын
@@antred11 defo, id rather shave off 15 grams of my own weight 😂
@zazzleman
@zazzleman 7 жыл бұрын
These two guys really make me laugh. I always learn something but they are ok with taking the piss out of themselves. Awesome
@awesumpowerz6805
@awesumpowerz6805 6 жыл бұрын
These boys are crazy!!! Hilarious!!! Love it!!!
@rubenoffringa6042
@rubenoffringa6042 7 жыл бұрын
Listen carefully to the very subtle wordplay from Simon at 6:03. I think I'm not enTIREly sure either :). Well done mate!
@JohnSmith-of4vh
@JohnSmith-of4vh 2 ай бұрын
I have been riding racing bikes for over 40 years & I knew riders who were brought up on tubs as there was nothing else & had moved over to clinchers for convenience & cost. It has always been clinchers for me & it is so easy to carry a spare inner tube & a set of levers in a jersey pocket with a pump on my frame. Not that I ever puncture, once in a bad year & a tire right off every 20!
@chrismartin5870
@chrismartin5870 5 жыл бұрын
Get these guys on mainstream TV. Classic stuff. Single handedly making cycling fun.
@Nessunego
@Nessunego 2 жыл бұрын
I really love clinchers
@danieljakubik3428
@danieljakubik3428 5 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 2008 Cervelo SLC-SL carbon road bike with Reynolds Aero Carbon wheels and tubular tires, which are an upgrade from the original clincher tire Dura Ace wheelset.
@darrenjanes
@darrenjanes 9 жыл бұрын
Peloton magazine did a manufacturer survey 2 yrs ago, only addressed to product developers and engineers (no sales/marketing people), focused on tech questions, one of which was about what their preference was...the majority said clinchers! The reasons mentioned was that clincher wheel and tyre tech has developed big over the past 5-10 yrs, while that of tubs has remained static, to the point where the clincher wheels and tyres now replicate tub road feel, plus being a lot more practical. I have been using Veloflex tyres (25mm) the past year and do have the same feel as tubs. In addition I prefer having a little extra weight at the wheels, adding stability and lower centre-of-gravity, which I find helps when racing kermis/crits!
@rexjamerson9316
@rexjamerson9316 3 жыл бұрын
I am restoring a Gio's Torino professional and running tubulars again for the first time in many years. I actually forgot what a pain in the ass they are to mount! I miss the old Silk tubulars from Clemente and Hutchinson because they were really well-made and weren't that difficult to mount when you got the tricks down. However, I am now finding them a bit of a pain in the butt. The cheap Victoria's don't Mount very good of course. And just for the record, I've been doing serious cycling since 1964. Entered my first racing in 1965.
@philhouck3560
@philhouck3560 5 жыл бұрын
I used tubular tires for about 3 years many years ago. I had no end of trouble with them. At first I thought it was defective output dumped on the US. In the past year with the comments about using high tire pressures, I've reconsidered. Maybe the problem was the perforated base tape and seam failures I had came from pumping these tires (Clement Criterium and Campionato del Mondo, both silk) up too much. Consequently, I'm more than a bit skeptical about the tire pressures mentioned in this video unless the durability of tubulars has substantially improved. For me, open tubulars like those sold by Compass offer excellent performance without the hassles of tubulars so that I rely on these for my most important rides.
@MrMicrolin
@MrMicrolin 6 жыл бұрын
really this is a great channel ..best bike one on you tube
@MarinStipkovic
@MarinStipkovic 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's that XC guy from GMBN!
@miguelfonseca5289
@miguelfonseca5289 7 жыл бұрын
Marathon Plus ... Love those tyres...
@koDiacc
@koDiacc 9 жыл бұрын
you guys should do a video about buying guides for clincher wheels 40-60mm deep .. I would take the enve's but I'm missing 3000€
@titouanb1458
@titouanb1458 9 жыл бұрын
Or you can always run tubs with a bit of sealant in to help with puncture resistance. it doesn't add much weight...
@mikesevener8189
@mikesevener8189 5 жыл бұрын
Great information on tire comparison, Would have been over the top if they added Tubular Clinchers to the test.
@jen3800
@jen3800 5 жыл бұрын
i know this is old but my comment still applies; the British potty humor of show like " Are you being served ? " are abundant ! Love it ! click on Simon's.... cheeky buggers!
@finarollerz
@finarollerz 2 жыл бұрын
I have all 3 and they are all good for different things.
@champamoore
@champamoore 8 жыл бұрын
Give the Panaracer Gravelkings a run before dismissing tubeless tires. They are the bomb! And the GravelKing SK adds a hell of a lot of grip for very little rolling resistance. Supple, fast rolling and puncture resistant goodness on both!
@getoutdoors2693
@getoutdoors2693 4 жыл бұрын
These guys are amazing, so funny Why on earth do we have a disk? "I wanted a shinny new pair of wheels to ride cycle-cross on " hahah
@cooldog2116
@cooldog2116 8 жыл бұрын
Carbon Tubs are also used because they don't warp or pop the inner tubes when you are heavily breaking on a descent. Carbon wheels are not designed to be clincher. This obviously isn't a problem if you have disc brakes.
@geoffreyfaltot1006
@geoffreyfaltot1006 Жыл бұрын
Aight. Buckled in for an incredibly exhilarating ride to satisfy my own dork-dom.
@richfi9576
@richfi9576 5 жыл бұрын
Matt's confession at the end made the video for me :D Where's the video that shows Dan doing his Princess and the Pea impression with the seat adjustment?
@DavidC1
@DavidC1 9 жыл бұрын
I bet dan has some good input considering he was a former pro on Chervello test team and Garmin.
@brandyyarbrough1948
@brandyyarbrough1948 9 жыл бұрын
Unless you have a follow-car with spare wheels in it, it's normal clinchers all day. Get good quality ones, throw in some proper tubes, inflate to a pressure appropriate to the size of your backside and the roads you are riding, and you are good to go. Tubeless are an epic, messy hassle that are not worth the 1-2 flats a season you might otherwise get. The "performance advantage" of tubulars might matter to less one tenth of 1% of anybody who turns a crank-- and they will definitely have a follow-car and someone else to handle the gluing, etc.
@TheMrDavidCurran
@TheMrDavidCurran 9 жыл бұрын
*Incoming mountain biker* The idea of tubeless is to run lower pressures, maintaining more grip, and eliminating pinch flats. For all tyres, this can be a great thing, as long as you're not obsessed with the idea of rolling resistance. Softer tyres, will yield more grip, it's science.
@StarEssences
@StarEssences 9 жыл бұрын
I prefer clincher rims; more cost effective in the long run, and easier maintenance. You can also vary your tire widths if need be vs. the glued on tires; it is a lot more hassle; a person is stuck remaining with one specific tire width.
@RawBananaJoe
@RawBananaJoe 8 жыл бұрын
do a video testing how much time tubular tires save in cyclocross! maybe race a few laps on tubs and a few on clinchers and compare the times
@bigeasy228
@bigeasy228 6 жыл бұрын
I ride a gravel bike with 35c tires with tubes and never have any problems. I prefer running higher to max pressures in my tires, and have never found the need or desire for lower PSI on a road bike application. However I do feel very different when it comes to my 29er MTB.
@michaellynn9763
@michaellynn9763 2 жыл бұрын
My new bike came with tubeless, which I was initially skeptical of, but having done a few rides, I’m now in love with them! I am however, unsure of whether the increased comfort comes from the 28c width (used to run 25c tubes), lack of inner tube or lower pressure?! I am also dreading a puncture because I simply don’t want to buy another damn product which rarely gets used - a habit I’m sure we’re all accustomed too!
@Aureas133
@Aureas133 Жыл бұрын
I recently went back from tubeless to clinchers. I was fed up with the mess on my frame when you do puncture. If this dries up you'll a well hard time scraping it off. Anyway, I went back to butyl innertubes and kept the pressure the same. It sure does make a large difference... Even though the pressure was equal the butyl innertube made it feel like 20-30 PSI more/harsher. I ordered some latex tubes to see if that helps.
@AWMI
@AWMI 9 жыл бұрын
Tubs everyday for me (except the depths of winter)! I ride Vittoria Corsa SC at the moment and agree with Matt that on a good road they sing to you and put a smile of your face that no other type of tyre can match; life's just too short to ride anything else! I've ridden over 30,000 miles since I switched to tubs and have had only 7 or 8 punctures, all of which appart from one were quickly and easily fixed with the tube of sealant I carry in my jersey pocket. That sealant can fix up to three punctures and so is lighter and easier to carry than a couple of inner tubes. All of which makes Tubs the obvious choice for me. The only downside being the need to pump up to pressure before every ride!
@alantaylor6691
@alantaylor6691 8 жыл бұрын
But how many miles does a tubular tyre last for? Like if you are training 500km per week in average conditions, how long will tubular tyres last you?
@AWMI
@AWMI 8 жыл бұрын
+Jim Thompson I've never ridden one until it wore out completely (down to the canvas) as I've always opted to change a very worn tub before a big race or event. But I did ride a Vittoria Corsa on my rear wheel for over 3000 miles before I changed it. The one I have on the front now a probably done more and looks absolutely fine.
@frankburn6312
@frankburn6312 7 жыл бұрын
last rear conti sprinter lasts me 7000 miles. still riding the front . I got gatorskins on my other set, and i don;t think they'll last that long
@pangloss9
@pangloss9 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice if you'd added the Tufo tubular-clincher tires into the mix. I've been riding the Tufo Elite 25mm tubular-clincher for over a decade and they feel much better than traditional clinchers.
@Rockinroomsrob
@Rockinroomsrob 7 жыл бұрын
I use tubs on my retro lo pro tt bike 650/700c 19mm front and 23 rear. I love feel but wouldn't want to use them to commute on to work on because of practical and comfort reasons, on my commuter set ups, fixie or geared I prefer to run 28mm clinchers, easy to fix and comfortable
@ITsupportian
@ITsupportian 8 жыл бұрын
I started using tubeless tires, IRC Pro Light. I am never going back Clincher. Seriously, I can feel the responsiveness. Funny thing is, I never carry a flat tire tools anymore.
@scootosan
@scootosan 9 жыл бұрын
The 'Dislike" is from a Pro that has to set his own tires
@SurpriseMeJT
@SurpriseMeJT 8 жыл бұрын
Even Tony Martin has been using clincher tires on his time trial bike due to lower rolling resistance. Two plys - the tire and the tube sliding on each other must be faster in a straight line. On my MTB, I am going back to tubed clinchers - the casing of the tires are thinner and with enough talcum powder between the tube and tire, you get a very supple ride, more supple than a tubeless. I got tired of my tubeless tires constantly drying up inside the tire, having to add more sealant or scrape out the dried sealant (weight) from the tubeless tire. Not to mention the thicker casing of a tubeless tire (sometimes) being so thick making the ride rougher for the same tire pressure of a tubed tire. Tubeless tires also cost a lot more at least for MTB, especially if you want light ones.
@z1522
@z1522 5 жыл бұрын
Good thinking. I have not flatted even on crappy Front Range rockfest trails in over three years, despite running about 17 lb. in 2.6" x 26" tires. Talcum/baby powder might be part of the secret to keep the tube sliding and not binding against the rim and outer tire, or perhaps the thicker outers now made to run tubeless might help too.
@russellscott1151
@russellscott1151 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vids but this one was 5 years ago so surely must be time for a new one in the clincher vs tubeless debate?
@gcn
@gcn 4 жыл бұрын
For sure, that would make for an interesting update!
@koDiacc
@koDiacc 9 жыл бұрын
I remember Tony Martin riding a Clincher on the first stage on the tour this year..
@66rhcp
@66rhcp 9 жыл бұрын
Clincher I would go for. For any normal human being who rides normally as well as races, a race clincher with supersonic tubes on a nice wheelset will make you as quick as you would be on expensive tubs. Unless your a pro then the limiting factor is YOU, the engine. Don't take the easy option, get out there and train.
@Ulleval73
@Ulleval73 7 жыл бұрын
Ride what lasts the longest and is easiest to fix, damn the price. Most guys and gals can get all the wheel and tire they need / want in a traditional clincher....or maybe a tubeless if you want to spring for that price point. Tubulars? For most mortals....not worth the investment. At my age, coming up on 62, I prefer to work on improving "the engine", i.e., my fitness, and foregoing incremental technological enhancements that, really, don't enhance my cycling one bit. Rarely puncture anymore with the new tire technology; carry a couple of extra tubes and in 10 minutes I'm back on the road....that is, if I get a puncture.
@philhouck3560
@philhouck3560 6 жыл бұрын
I'm in basic agreement here. Tubulars are great so long as someone else is paying for them. When I was using tubular tires years ago (Clement, mostly), I had constant trouble with the base tape failing leading to seam failure. Repairing a tire took hours and the tubular was really never the same again. That and quality control was often problematic even on the top line satin tubulars. I suppose today's tubular tires are better but I think the latest wired-on/clinchers are every bit as fast and feature a greater range of sizes. The latest tests I've seen give a definite nod to wired-on/clinchers. I'd put a Compass wired-on up against any tubular any day. They cost about the same as a high quality tubular and the cost per mile is going to be far lower than with a tubular tire.
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st 6 жыл бұрын
Roadies: flaunting their willies for the world to see since 1956.
@davidepollak3
@davidepollak3 7 жыл бұрын
strarting on november 20'16 I've been riding tubeless schwalbe pro one 25 on my Bontrager Paradigm Elite. actually I'll never go back to clincher or tubulars.
@mikeylindseysadventures4212
@mikeylindseysadventures4212 6 жыл бұрын
I ride schwable stelvio on my specialized allez
@ViperSRTnACR
@ViperSRTnACR 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a video here explaining how to go about filling a tubeless MTB tire: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnfVf6qvnc2SsMk
@janzilverstone
@janzilverstone 8 жыл бұрын
Great shows guys :) When are you going to test the new Graphene tyres - those could change the game of tyre choice Just my 2 Cents...
@michaeltorrey
@michaeltorrey 6 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about tires, like the sort of tires, like raining, dry, etc pls
@Easy-3577
@Easy-3577 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried tubeless tires for road, gravel, and cyclocross for a couple of years now. If you can get a tubeless tire to seat you can have 2000 miles of problem free riding. But since tubeless tires are almost impossible to seat, sometimes taking hours or even days, no matter all the KZbin advise, they seem to be mostly a waste of time. Time spent on tube tire maintenance and repair each year 30 minutes, and always successful. Time spent each year on tubeless tire maintenance 30 hours, and half the time I give up and put in tubes. The Emperor has no clothes !
@naikshibabrat
@naikshibabrat 8 жыл бұрын
Would Si recommend keeping a tubeless ready wheel set until there are enough options available and just ride/race clinchers? No need selling them just yet? Also can you guys do a video on training vs racing wheel sets comparing spoke counts, tyre types and other sciency things? :)
@michaelweekes9030
@michaelweekes9030 9 жыл бұрын
So what would you say is a top quality clincher tyre? Used to use conti gp4000s but I know a lot of people (including myself) who have a side wall blow out recently and have lost confidence. Switched to conti 4 season for training tyre and 27mm Vittoria Open Pave on the winter bike. Currently looking for a pair of carbon runs and was going to run with latex tubes and clinchers. Any thoughts on brand/model of tyre to use? (Wheels will be used mainly for racing and chaingangs). Thanks!
@jasonvines6331
@jasonvines6331 5 жыл бұрын
How about a review on the best cycling shorts to wear lads ,, small or extra small 😂😂😂
@Ystadcop
@Ystadcop 9 жыл бұрын
Well yes, nowadays most of us use "clinchers," or "wired-ons" as they were known. And very good they are too. However, in racing days our preferred (cotton) choice was Pirelli Leggeros on the front and the lighter Leggerisimmos on the back, sorry about the spelling. Expensive but great for normal races. But if it was something very important I remember we'd dig out the vastly dear Clement Seta (silk) Extras and hope for no punctures. They really had some zip. In the early '70's we were racing in Spain against the top Spanish teams, ie Kas and Werner and the fashion in wheels was 28 spoke (plain gauge) tied and soldered. Hm. Sorry, but comparing the best clinchers against tubs reminds me of my present girlfriend (known as The Slut) who often compares playing Hide the Sausage with a condom as "having a bath with your boots on". Not that I can remember.
@CarlBaravelli
@CarlBaravelli 6 жыл бұрын
A couple of things not discussed. On long descents in warm weather on carbon wheels - clinches are considered dangerous, as the thinner wall my fail when compared to tubulars. Considering pros race on some of the highest mountain descents in the middle of the summer months, I imagine this may be a consideration. The other thing is the finding that tubeless actually has the best rolling resistance and clincher better than tubs - so maybe the weight penalty is neutralised by this.
@solanogu
@solanogu Жыл бұрын
I don't like tubeless as much as I like tubulars. But they are scarce and expensive were I live (Costa Rica). I gave a try to tubeless both in my MTB and Road Bike, at this moment the only tubeless left is the rear MTB tire. To me is a mess and need to be topping the sealant every few months is not the best thing. As I carried a preglued tubular as a spare there is also the need to carry a tube when riding on tubeless. And still the ride on tubulars is the best.
@mjv1967
@mjv1967 9 жыл бұрын
Give an open tubular in a 25mm size a try. I think you will all notice the difference vs a std clincher.
@DennisCph
@DennisCph 7 жыл бұрын
Looking to upgrade my wheel set and want to run 25C or 28C tubeless tires. But how wide should the rims be to best match such tires? E.g. 622-17, -19, -20 or ..?
@glenngoossens4542
@glenngoossens4542 9 жыл бұрын
Could you give a review on your garmin vector?
@leonwhaanga
@leonwhaanga 7 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, have you done a piece on a TT bike back disc wheel and best tyre/tyre size/psi?
@malcolmcog
@malcolmcog 8 жыл бұрын
Good review, I like tubs for racing, train on clinchers (I hate that name, used to call them high pressures, then wired ons). Is that countryside around the Wye Valley ?
@earthstick
@earthstick 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like it. I've been over that bridge @ 6:35
@JOSHakaDRAGON
@JOSHakaDRAGON 9 жыл бұрын
Matt rides Dan's bike for the first time and it gets a mention, but how many videos have we seen with Si riding Tom's bike? With no explanation at all?!
@michaellaforte6964
@michaellaforte6964 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago I ran tubeless using my clinchers, on Mavic Ksyrium ES wheels, needing no rim tape. The setup was straight forward. At the time there were no “tubeless” specific tires. I went back to tubes the last few years, but now there’s tubeless specific tires. I’ve seen the only difference seems to be the bead, but are there really any other differences in the tires AND any reason I SHOULDN’T use a clincher (I like Schwalbe Ones) to run tubeless?
@dominicsharkey4889
@dominicsharkey4889 9 жыл бұрын
Am I right in saying that for a Road Tubeless set-up you definitely need tubeless specific rims and tyres, but for a Cyclocross tubeless set-up you can use normal clincher rims and tyres because of the lower pressures involved?
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 9 жыл бұрын
Have you had a chance to try out Schwalbe's "tubeless easy' tires yet? They're supposed to be, well, easier.
@nicka2983
@nicka2983 8 жыл бұрын
I think most pros would have been gluing and maybe patching up tubulars on their own before turning pro. they wear down in 1000 to 3000km and puncture often if you train on them daily.
@kylehagertybanana
@kylehagertybanana 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from the future and tubeless is getting to be used everywhere
@garrettsagen4854
@garrettsagen4854 5 жыл бұрын
Any change in perspective in and around tubeless tire selection?
@ahall3823
@ahall3823 6 жыл бұрын
I think this video needs to be updated. Tubular tyres are generally attached with tub tape. It's far simpler than gluing and only takes 12 hrs to set. You can now have all the benefits of tubulars with only a fraction of the effort you used to have to put in.
@ChrisAcheson
@ChrisAcheson 4 жыл бұрын
Tubular flats you'll need to sew them up and glue the tire back on the rim? I'll go with clinchers all the way but maybe in the future. I do believe in the not too distant future there'll be a solid light composite tire that'll take over.
@gerardvanommenkloeke9464
@gerardvanommenkloeke9464 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance of an update for the tubeless option. Presumably things have change since 2015?
@juliusmia5386
@juliusmia5386 5 жыл бұрын
To this date, after 4 years. Which one is the best. Clincher, Tubular or Tubeless?
@FelipeLuizDickmann
@FelipeLuizDickmann 4 жыл бұрын
Consider airless as well. Tannus I guess
@erikknudsen4034
@erikknudsen4034 6 жыл бұрын
So there are other videos showing how carbon clinchers can heat up so much (mainly decents) that the resin changes shape and rim is trashed. True or not true for carbon clinchers?
@123456bmx
@123456bmx 9 жыл бұрын
I'd like to run tubs with a bit of sealant in them in case I get a small puncture,I think that's the way to go
@123456bmx
@123456bmx 9 жыл бұрын
+MRGRUMPY53 The ride quality is superb though,I might just end up doing that.
@MJ4183
@MJ4183 9 жыл бұрын
@GCN; What does last longer? A carbom rim surface or standard alu. rim brake surface? Please answer or make a video...
@mike.collins
@mike.collins 8 жыл бұрын
Have you ever came across Tufo tubular clinchers? That'd be great to hear your opinion about this unique offering of this Czech manufacturer.
@halanahulog
@halanahulog 6 жыл бұрын
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@halanahulog
@halanahulog 6 жыл бұрын
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