Clinical or Professional Masters in Psychology?

[@jamilekirri803]

Great recap! I am one of those people that got offered a Clinical but chose the Professional pathway as I could not justify or even know if it was possible for me to afford to undertake the Clinical pathway in my circumstances at this time of my life. Particularly as I am close to 30 and looking towards family planning, I wanted to get into the workplace sooner and have less study burden in the short term with the thought that I can always increase my clinical skills and earning power with a bridging course in the future (perhaps when the so far imaginary kids are at school!). Coming to the end of the Professional program year, I am really glad I made this decision and have found there are plenty of job/internship opportunities available to me. I value my own wellbeing and lifestyle balance and the flexibility available to suit this in the Professional was what was best for me.

[@user-gd5tq7df8h]

Good thinking, well done you! Relevant to my considerations and your insight is helpful.

[@Al.531]

Great thinking. I’m in a similar boat. Can I ask about earning potential with professional psych? After putting my family in a bind financially being a student, I’m wondering what the earning potential after professional may be. Thank you :)

[@kathleenanne]

Thanks so much for sharing this!!! I strongly relate and you’re right, you can always get a clinical endorsement down the track through the bridging pathway 😊 my hope is that this will become the norm, more universities are following suit 😄

[@kathleenanne]

The average salary of a registered psych is $100k but it can really vary, depending on where you work. It would never be lower than 90k but it can go up to the 200k range 😊

[@Al.531]

@@kathleenanne thank you! What do you think the earning potential may be working part-time in private practice? My goal would be to work 2-3 days in private practice after doing professional psych. I don't know if I could manage full-time! Do you have any videos on full-time/part-time work-life balance for psychologists as it is stressful work? Thank you!!

[@charliemana5126]

Hey Kathleen, great video! As someone who is at the tail-end of their honours year, I can definitely say that the status of a clinical masters as the "better" option is still alive and well. I will point out that I think many students feel they need to get into clinical straight out of their honours year, but I have heard many stories of students not getting in their first year but receiving multiple offers when they re-apply the year after 😊 Hope this helps anyone who came across this video x

[@kathleenanne]

Thanks so much for sharing this Charlie!! Disappointing to know it’s still being drilled into students as the best option, your advice is invaluable - there’s nothing wrong with applying again the following year, taking a break or doing the professional masters! 🫶

[@mykes123412344321432]

What an amazing channel, as someone who finished their Honours last year (needed a year off study) and is now applying to master's programs, these kinds of videos are amazing! There is so much mystery as you progress through your psych degree which can cause a lot of stress and anxiety but you're helping to clear that up for us! Keep up the amazing work 🤩 P.s. I will be going with the MPP if possible due to life circumstances (my partner and I starting to try for kids and so on 😅) I've got an interview today wish me luck haha.

[@petakubiak7856]

I love your videos Kathleen. You need to do a 2yr registration program after your masters in clinical psychology before you can be called a clinical psychologist. At the end of the masters of professional psychology internship and masters of clinical psychology you are BOTH general psychologists - just to make the choice harder 😂

[@kathleenanne]

Thanks for adding this!! It’s such a tough decision, especially given how long it takes to be fully endorsed as a clinical psych 🥲 so glad you’ve enjoyed the content though!

[@Rachel-ny5tg]

You're doing gods work ! Thank you Kathleen

[@kathleenanne]

Thanks so much!! 😊

[@MarsK84]

The only thing with the professional Master's, although it's cheaper in terms of one less year of uni fees, you have to pay for the supervision hours during your internship and that comes to around $20k. Thanks heavens for the bridging programs! Great video btw

[@frostypapaya5747]

amazing video, thank you so much! ive never heard about professional psychology before and im very glad to know there are other pathways than the standard clinical psychology

[@kathleenanne]

My pleasure, so glad this video helped!! 🫶

[@user-gd5tq7df8h]

Very informative, Kathleen, thank you! As a dual citizen from Europe, I'm now trying to board the ClinPsy train but also applying for ProfPsy just to get the working rights if needs be. I'm a creative arts therapist and hope it'll rather attract them.

[@kathleenanne]

Glad this helped! Wishing you all the best 😊

[@user-gd5tq7df8h]

Thanks! I made it into Professional Psychology and considering jumping into Clin Psy later on ;) Cheerios!@@kathleenanne

[@27Dionysis]

Thanks for this. This is really helpful. Thank you.

[@kathleenanne]

Glad it helped!! 😊

[@coffeeaddict2075]

hihi!! do you know if it is easy to get into MPP after doing honours? It is easy to find placements for provisional psychologists in Melb?

[@tessguo536]

Love this video so much! I'm currently considering these options and this video described the differences in such a clear, understandable way :) I was just wondering, if you decide to pursue a Master's in Professional Psychology, do you also have to undertake the National Psychology Examination after the one-year internship? Do you know anything about the nature or difficulty of this exam?

[@kathleenanne]

Thanks so much for sharing, I’m really glad this video helped! You will need to do the NPE if you do the 5+1 pathway, however it’s not as bad as what it seems - I just completed it. I’ll be releasing a video about the NPE tomorrow, along with future NPE content 😊

[@Ballerz_Shorts]

Can I do masters of professional psychology 4 years after undergrad?

[@aminag9200]

yes, there is a 10 year limit for postgraduate psychology

[@Ro-gg2hj]

Thanks for the vid - I’m v late to comment but am very confused about the clinical masters vs other AOE (like counselling, health, forensic,ect.) - from what I understand, all these endorsements need a 2 yr masters… but for some reason only the clinical AOE is talked abt regarding offering that higher rebate? Soo my question is Can other AOEs offer a higher rebate? ~ And ~ are other AOEs regarded as ‘clinical’ (eg. Is the title ‘Clinical health psychologist’ a thing?) in the sense that they require a 2yr masters rather than the 1 yr professional pathway? Or is ‘clinical’ PURELY referring to that specific AOE (cuz it’s the most popular/available) rather than being a reference to the level of qualification/studies someone does? Hope this makes sense !😅 and Thankyou in advance to anyone who can help clarify this!!

[@kathleenanne]

No worries - it is confusing! All endorsements require a 2 year masters - unless you've already done a 1 year professional masters, then some endorsements (especially clinical), have a 1 year 'bridging masters' you can do to get the endorsement Clinical masters offers the highest medicare rebate. You can only call yourself a 'clinical psychologist' if you do the 2 year clinical masters to get your registration + 2 years of supervised practice, to gain the endorsement title = Clinical registered psychologist For all other endorsement masters, you become a registered psychologist after the masters and then the endorsement title after two years of supervised practice e.g., organisational masters would help you become an organisational registered psychologist. You will get the same rebate as a registered psych, which is slightly lower than a clinical. However some endorsements are more lucrative e.g., organisational A professional masters allows you to become a registered psychologist, but there's no endorsement Hope this helps 😊

[@Ro-gg2hj]

@@kathleenanne Thank you so so much! that's probably the most comprehensive explanation I've had !😅 - though I didn't think there was a 1yr 'bridging masters' to go from being a generalist to an endorsed registered psych!? I've been told that if I completed a 1 year professional masters (+ 1 year supervised prac to get registration), I would have to go back and do another 2 year clinical masters if I decided I wanted to become endorsed afterall ... Do you happen to know where abouts they offer such bridging masters/is it just an eastern states thing? Again thank you so so much !❤

[@Al.531]

Thank you for this video! Would it be possible to do a video on the other options? I only know about clinical and professional! 😅

[@Hash.Cookie]

Thanks heaps :)

[@kathleenanne]

Glad it helped! 😊