Alan Torrance - Do Major Religions Worship the Same God?

[@markread8502]

Disappointing. He dodged the real questions and just gave generic insular Christian answers.

[@asyetundetermined]

It’s part and parcel with the endeavor itself. Once one begins to confront genuine questions with honesty, they have effectively divorced themselves from behavior which is categorized as religious. It’s inherently paradoxical.

[@stevenlagoe7808]

I agree.

[@davidcheeseman992]

​@@asyetundetermined nicely put

[@saturdaysequalsyouth]

Because it’s all nonsense

[@sonofthelocustall-green9085]

Christianity answers ... NOT Christian answers based on the word of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ teachings!

[@TorgerVedeler]

This poor fellow has the most amazingly limited view of God imaginable. He assumes that he can comprehend a God who created everything. I think sone humility is called for here.

[@Jinxed007]

Geez, god sure didn't leave a very clear rulebook. Shoddy work for a Supreme being.

[@sandradixon6205]

God gave humans a very clear rulebook, the Bible. Sadly, it’s had a lot of bad press because of the religions who claim to believe it but act contrary to it and misrepresent it. They thereby also misrepresent God because the Bible is his Word. In it he clearly tells us what is acceptable to him and what isn’t. At Isaiah 48:17 he says, “I am your God, the One teaching you to benefit yourself, the One guiding you in the way you should walk”. As our Creator he knows what is best for us. Everything he says is for our benefit, and he is keenly interested in our welfare. He doesn’t want us to experience pain and suffering because we’ve made a bad decision, so he’s provided the Bible with his wisdom as a reliable guide for us. Just think of the benefit to all mankind if they would just apply this one principle found at Matthew 7:12, “All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them”. If everyone treated others as they would like to be treated, the world would be a much better place!

[@Jinxed007]

@sandradixon6205 Taking a simple and gentle overview of the message of the Bible as you've done here is fine. If the message and meaning is, "Be nice, help each other, and in the end I'll give you a nice gift", I would have no issues with that, nor with anyone that believes it... but that's not the whole picture at all, and I think you know that. According to the belief, mankind's immortal soul balances on strict adherence to the rules, yet these incredibly important rules were written once, in a single ancient language to a people that were mostly illiterate, living in a desert, when the world at the time had entire developed cultures that could have learned and taught the message magnitudes better. Never since has any of it been updated by the man himself to address anything we currently encounter. There's no measurable interventions. There's no measurable difference in quality of life, health, longevity, knowledge, or anything else you can think of between those that believe and those that don't. When these types of conversations begin, I honestly don't even know where to start or finish. There are so many counterintuitive aspects to the very idea of Christianity that I'm not quite sure how anyone believes it. If you want to live a good life, be kind to others, more power to you! If you want to believe in a creator, great! But please, frame that creator in something, ANYTHING that makes some sort of logical sense.

[@domini1331]

God, by definition, is complete in all aspects and is not lacking anything. He does not need human worship either. Religions want certain rituals to keep the folks under their control and these rituals are viewed as worshipping by humans.

[@ezrawilson6986]

Whose definition?

[@aporist]

God doesn't have genitalia so cannot be neither male or female.

[@neonpop80]

If he’s complete then he’d have an ego that needs to be recognized

[@simoncardie9371]

By definition, of people who believe in him.

[@Roshan-q6n]

@neonpop80 There is no room for ego when love fills the heart.

[@tanned06]

Buddhism recognizes there are heavenly beings with much higher power and control over many other things according to a universal principle ( in Dharmic religions it's called the Dharma - the impersonal, impartial, always-existing natural law) that's in tune with peace, harmony and happiness but none of them can be seen as the 'creator' or controller of any beings in the many universes. Beings are owners and fully responsible for their own action and the effects that come with it - the law of karma at work.

[@thomasridley8675]

Nothing divides humanity more than religion. And nothing divides religions more than their agenda driven interpretations of reality.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

No two humans worship the same god. They all worship a figment of an individual imagination.

[@surendirenparthasarathy9087]

That's true. There must be 8 billion religions as each one has his or her own imagination of God.

[@richardharvey1732]

Hi Jack Armstrong, I do agree with what you say, at that level we do indeed have unlimited diversity. However the neurological and mental processes could have some things in common, in that belief in anything is a 'type' of idea, one that stems from the imagination what ever that is. I was first introduced to this sort of concept many years ago by a scientist called Stafford Beer, he talks of the differences between language, that the all use all the time and 'meta-language', the way we can use much the same words to discuss the topic of language itself. My primary assumption for this is based on the idea that all animals share many of the same biological mechanisms and there fore behave in very similar ways!, many of our functions autonomic nervous systems are found in other organisms, the structure of sensory nerves very similar. This then would allow form the way our imaginations work to be essentially the same, while producing very different behaviours. Cheers, Richard.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

@@richardharvey1732 What humans have in common is they are born totally ignorant of the world and trusting. If you fill a child's mind with stories about the gods and tell the child the gods are real many will be trapped with this implanted delusion their entire lives.

[@jackarmstrong5645]

@@richardharvey1732 Yes a god is a "type" of idea. It is a personification. It is the primitive personification of the total mystery of existence. It explains everything with one magic "person". A father figure.

[@olandezulfumator7541]

If you know everything about religions, and you feel something in your heart, is no use to it if you don't practice goodness toward other people.

[@Roshan-q6n]

@olandezulfumator7541 You need to discover the truth within your own being and not live by concepts of what is good or bad because what often appears to be good may inherently be also bad. There is no simple or clear path through the maze of the human mind. Truth and truth alone is divine. Find that connection.

[@chicojcf]

"it is the duty of every cultured man or woman to read sympathetically the scriptures of the world. If we are to respect others' religions as we would have them to respect our own, a friendly study of the world's religions is a sacred duty”. Mahatma Gandhi

[@KumaraKantirava-q8x]

@@chicojcf Thanks for the Comment.

[@MJ1]

Everyone worships a different god because we all have different imaginations.

[@evaadam3635]

...it is your sincere faith that matters, not worship...

[@asyetundetermined]

@@MJ1 precisely. I wish religious folks could be honest about at least this much.

[@andrewauchampach5466]

More accurately stated as a "personal" god.

[@sylvestermumba981]

The principles guiding main religions are similar in most cases eg dont steal, cheat etc We very well may be experiencing the same God in different forms in the sense that we all are submitting to the same practices under different names of God

[@infinitemonkey917]

Or those are just basic tenets of being human - a social species.

[@Roshan-q6n]

The path is internal, without separation or distinction, there is no master or servant. No entity ever needs worshipping. That which is ineffable shines from within your very own being for all to see. God is the lamp that shines from within the hearts of all beings.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

😅😂😂😂😂

[@questor5189]

To arrive at an accurate assessment of all religious belief, the path must be simultaneously internal and external, within and without, above and below. The Divine is either perpetually good and evil, or the Divine alone is perpetually good and the creation perpetually evil, or a blending of good and evil.

[@Roshan-q6n]

@questor5189 We're here to learn. You can't learn good without the bad, just like you can't have day without night.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

@@questor5189 🤣😂😅🤣

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

@@Roshan-q6n 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@edwardlawrence5666]

Every human has their own ideas of god or no gods. So, there is no reason to expect that the major religions have the same idea of god. Vive le difference.

[@sendakan666]

These answers are further proof of why some observers of the Christian religion call it Pauline Christianity, rather than what was actually preached by Jesus.

[@DGE123]

It's a nonsensical question since religions are an invention of the human mind ie a cultural product. People believe because they have a propensity to do so based on the mammalian potential for ritualistic behaviour, that said ask yourself this there are 1400 or so major religion in the world each one thinks they are the correct one. What is more mathematically probable that one is the correct one or they are all invented.

[@olandezulfumator7541]

There is no use to look for the right religion. If the one that you follow helps you to scoop you ego out and be generous to others, than you are moving into the right direction. I agree that the religion is an invention of the mind, out of compassion to others I would guess.

[@aeaf123]

The "Good" response he gives immediately after the question is asked shows that he himself is minimizing the other arguments to suit his own belief. Its especially why Christianity is having so much struggle to remain relevant.

[@aanne12]

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[@OliviaLondon1980]

I totally agree

[@nyworker]

Certainly on an individual basis we can ask what worshiping their god may mean. But religions before the reformation of the Middle Ages were mass social systems and political systems. The question should be are they worshiping? recognizing? acknowledging?……The Same Truth.

[@jacquacooper]

Most people in this comment are very smart…clearly this guy should have interviewed someone from here…Kudos to you all. 🥇

[@abduazirhi2678]

Ultimately, all religions do in fact worship the same (but not identical) God !

[@orenwright7395]

Host is brilliant, as usual. Otherwise a complete waste of time and energy...Torrence just can't comprehend anything outside the scope of his own Christian superstitions. Every response from him was framed in the context of Jesus Christ. He doesn't belong in an honest intellectual conversation.

[@Warpug1]

If I know 2+2 is 4 but you believe it’s 3, I know better than you.

[@evaadam3635]

7 ÷ 3 = 2.333333333333 to no end, proving that Math is IMPERFECT..... What is man-made is not God-made...

[@micheal74rich]

@@evaadam3635 Christianity is man-made did not come from God of Abraham.

[@evaadam3635]

​@@micheal74rich...it is your sincere faith in a loving God that matters that can save your soul, and not how imperfect men wrote about God, divinely inspired or not....

[@dominicvijayanand1971]

religion is personal, political, motivational, learning, selfish, must be universal and free to all to accept it or not. not to be forced upon. but we need to experience to believe or believe to experience. it's worth a try to know the unknown, unseen, complete, total and one true being in which we want to surrender our weakness and strengths.

[@georgetravers9333]

Saul, walking to Damascus, hears a voice and says "who are you Lord?" Acts 9:5 If God spoke to you - you would know it. For the voice of the spirit is wordless. The voice of the ego is in the words in our head. The first Christian by submission was made.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@georgetravers9333 If your Christianity came from the God of Abraham, can you provide me one thing you believe and practice as in Christianity that is valid before the God and it stands before the God, that which could lead you to salvation, just one thing please????? Hint: Five pillars of Islam that Muslims practice day-in and day-out are valid before the God and they stand before the God. Please make sure your answer meets the asked criterion.

[@georgetravers9333]

@@LogicStandsBeforeGod Why do you think Christianity came from Abraham's God? The God created through the belief of one man, or the god of all mankind and every living creature? The whole of Jewish Scripture can be summed up: 'love your god with all your strength, heart and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself''. It is your god that you serve. Not someone else's God. Not St Paul's thorny religion nor Mo's mob of five-a-day thiugs of lookalikes, soundalikes and actalikes. You walk every moment with your god in the spirit of truth and love. Genuine. Not counterfeited by faith. The children already have the kingdom of god. Not the milestone people. I hope this answers your question.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@georgetravers9333 _"Why do you think Christianity came from Abraham's God? "_ I never said Christianity came from the God of Abraham. _"The God created through the belief of one man "_ Which one man, what belief of one man? _" or the god of all mankind and every living creature? "_ It is God of Abraham created the universe, the 'god' of Christianity cannot be the God of Abraham.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@georgetravers9333 _"I hope this answers your question. "_ You post is rumbles did not answer my question.

[@georgetravers9333]

@LogicStandsBeforeGod This is why in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, the people stumbled blindly unable to find the door where the men from god stayed. It's why Nicodemus did not understand how a man could be born again. Men of Certainty. Their knowledge of Good and Evil. Pride Months. Looking outwardly on their sleeves, and not within. Claiming they know Abraham's God when they don't know Abraham.

[@williamburts3114]

God would have to be the source of all consciousness, and since consciousness or awareness goes beyond material designations an absolute truth would have to be beyond all material designations as well.

[@BooksForever]

If you accept details (had a son, or did not) about your god as factual, and if those details do not match between yours and another’s contradictory set of equally factual details, then by definition these cannot belong to the same god.

[@evaadam3635]

Faith in a loving God is one thing common to all religions... how imperfect men interpret a loving GOD is another thing... it is your sincere faith that matters that can save your soul and not how imperfect men interpret God...

[@BooksForever]

@@evaadam3635 You can deceive yourself all you want, but it is unbecoming behavior and will not serve you well over the course of your life.

[@shirk_slayer]

The doctrine of the Trinity, central to mainstream Christianity, asserts that God exists as three coequal and coeternal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. While proponents argue that this is a form of monotheism, the concept inherently divides God’s essence into multiple entities, each distinct yet sharing divinity. This division, however nuanced, directly contradicts the pure monotheism (Tawhid) upheld in Islam, where Allah is absolutely one and indivisible: “Say, ‘He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, nor is there to Him any equivalent.’” (Surah Al-Ikhlas, 112:1-4) The Trinity introduces complexity to the concept of God that resembles the polytheistic tendencies of ancient religions, where divine roles and attributes were distributed among multiple gods. In the case of the Trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit each assume distinct functions-creating, redeeming, and sanctifying-mirroring the compartmentalization of roles seen in polytheism. By attributing divine qualities to Jesus and the Holy Spirit alongside the Father, the Trinity dilutes the singularity and sovereignty of God. This is why the Qur’an explicitly rejects such notions: “They have certainly disbelieved who say, ‘Allah is the third of three.’ And there is no god except one God.” (Surah Al-Ma’idah, 5:73) The assertion that Jesus (peace be upon him) is divine stands in direct opposition to his own teachings. Nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus explicitly claim to be God or demand worship. Instead, he consistently refers to himself as a servant of God, emphasizing submission to the One who sent him. In Mark 12:29, when asked about the greatest commandment, Jesus quotes the Shema, the central tenet of Jewish monotheism: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Furthermore, Jesus frequently prays to God, acknowledges God’s authority as greater than his own, and describes himself as being sent by God. For instance, in John 5:30, he states: “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.” These words unequivocally portray Jesus as a prophet and servant of God, aligning with the Qur’anic depiction of him: “The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food.” (Surah Al-Ma’idah, 5:75) By highlighting Jesus’ human needs and dependence on God, the Qur’an refutes any claim of divinity. His message, like that of all prophets, was to call humanity to worship the One true God, Allah, without partners or intermediaries. The elevation of Jesus to divine status is not rooted in his teachings but in later theological developments influenced by Greco-Roman religious thought. In conclusion, the Trinity introduces elements of polytheism into a faith that was originally monotheistic. Jesus himself never claimed divinity but consistently directed worship to the One true God. Islam restores this pure monotheism, affirming that Allah is one and incomparable, and that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a noble messenger sent to guide humanity back to the worship of the Creator alone.

[@evaadam3635]

The Whole Existence is now manifested in three GODLY ENERGIES coming from One Divine Almighty SOURCE... ...and these three Godly Energies are : God the Father (Physical Universe), God the Son (us, free souls), God the Holy Ghost (Divine Creator)... this is the mystery of existence that many faithfuls have described as the Mystery of the Holy Trinity because they find it difficult to understand... ... and all these started when WE as ONE WHOLE GOD created this Physical World and then split our WHOLENESS into free souls just to have a free family to love and to be freely loved which is more joyful than being All ALONE.... this has divided the WHOLENESS OF EXISTENCE into three parts for the sake of having a free family interacting and loving each other... ..this is why the FAMILY is the greatest idea that GOD had put into existence, but is now being sabotaged by the fans of satan whose goal is the destruction of all existence..

[@kelmachado1]

The most odd thing in this video is that it says that who is speaking is Alan Torrance, but in fact, who is speaking is Andrew Torrance, Alan's son.

[@jacquacooper]

Short answer, yes…The Most High brought teachers for us to KNOW HIM and to remember that all these teachers(prophets) told us that NOTHING IS EQUAL TO THE MOST HIGH(Allah, Elohim, G-D The Father or any name we give to HIM). They all Taught us that Salvation is big enough for ALL GOOD PEOPLE. This is the time that we should live in harmony like the Divine Interfaith Temples…you know…idk

[@yusufmoalim9506]

Robert I'm speaking to you as a scientist; I know you love science. Your guest is brushing the paint of " Jesus died for us" over your challenging question. But is it possible the laws of science to provide any results without real application? I mean what Christians do for the sake of God? Compare Muslims for example, Muslim prays five times a day. Christian doesn't. Muslim doesn't eat pork and doesn't drink alcohol. Christian does. Muslim women cover their bodies. Christian women don't. And so on. My apologies if I offended anyone. That is not my goal.

[@grumpy9478]

following specific dubious rules makes one more Godly - what's the science in that?

[@yusufmoalim9506]

@@grumpy9478 Can 2+2 = 4. without someone adding them up? Then you may want to say that laws of physics created the universe! I would recommend you to read about Ibn Sina's metaphysical approach to God.

[@grumpy9478]

@@yusufmoalim9506 actually, your "logic" supports a proof that someone created god - you might want to say. I say this is getting tedious.

[@raypek8253]

Been on at it some 2000 years and still none the wiser. If they were Indeed in touch with their God, truth would be forthcoming - as with the prophets - but to date, nothing is forthcoming.

[@StevWasHere]

Why not follow the supernatural evidence if you want to know what God thinks? The Incorruptibles reveal all.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

Think ? 😅😅😅😂😂😂 ! 😅😅

[@georgegrubbs2966]

Even the three Abrahamic religions do not worship the same god as they have implemented the old Israelite god, Yahweh. Christianity and Islam tailored that god to suit the beliefs of those religion’s founders. Even Judaism has crafted a god unlike the original YHWH. The god of other religions are very different.

[@dismalthoughts]

Depends on what constitutes "sameness" to you - which properties must be shared. Context matters, too; saying two apples are the "same" in a matching game might make sense even if they're not physically the same apple. Saying Joe is the "same" as his brother might not make sense in some contexts since they're not the same physical person. Then again, if Joe and his brother are sufficiently identical in appearance and personality, people might very well describe them as "the same person" in other contexts. What this boils down to is a semantic argument. Two people could have identical views on the relationship between gods of different religions and yet appear to disagree because they define "same" differently (at least in this context). The question isn't an exploration of reality or "Truth" so much as it is some particular person's definition of "same".

[@Ekam-Sat]

I beg to differ since there is only differentiation within oneness just like the tree of life.

[@georgegrubbs2966]

@@dismalthoughtsHindu Brahman is fundamentally different from the gods of the Abrahamic religions. Buddhism does not have a god. Sufism, Jainism, Confucianism, Shinto, etc- all different. Islam Allah different from Christian trinity. And so on.

[@dismalthoughts]

@@georgegrubbs2966 I agree with you that they're all different. That wasn't my point :P If the answer to the question were that black and white, then this video wouldn't have been made. There are combinations of perspectives (i.e.: looking at all things as "God") + definitions for "same" for which the answer to the question is "yes". This doesn't mean you're wrong; it means there is no "real" answer because it hangs on the definition of "same", and definitions are made up. Unless you fundamentally disagree that there is no perspective or definition for "same" that can yield a "yes" to the titular question?

[@dismalthoughts]

@@Ekam-Sat All things as one, all things as different. Both a matter of subjective perspective imho, neither more "correct" than the other.

[@raypek8253]

If there was one God there'll be one truth and one religion, not several forms of religious practice around the world with the quote ...'I am, that I am'?

[@claudiozanella256]

Negative, the "reference God" of christianity is Jesus Christ. He claimed to be the ONLY Savior: He only judges, not the almighty God. Thus, only Jesus can grant access to heaven.

[@Roshan-q6n]

@claudiozanella256 The truth is that we make our own heaven and hell no matter where we have come from or where we are going to.

[@shirk_slayer]

The doctrine of the Trinity, central to mainstream Christianity, asserts that God exists as three coequal and coeternal persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. While proponents argue that this is a form of monotheism, the concept inherently divides God’s essence into multiple entities, each distinct yet sharing divinity. This division, however nuanced, directly contradicts the pure monotheism (Tawhid) upheld in Islam, where Allah is absolutely one and indivisible: “Say, ‘He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, nor is there to Him any equivalent.’” (Surah Al-Ikhlas, 112:1-4) The Trinity introduces complexity to the concept of God that resembles the polytheistic tendencies of ancient religions, where divine roles and attributes were distributed among multiple gods. In the case of the Trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit each assume distinct functions-creating, redeeming, and sanctifying-mirroring the compartmentalization of roles seen in polytheism. By attributing divine qualities to Jesus and the Holy Spirit alongside the Father, the Trinity dilutes the singularity and sovereignty of God. This is why the Qur’an explicitly rejects such notions: “They have certainly disbelieved who say, ‘Allah is the third of three.’ And there is no god except one God.” (Surah Al-Ma’idah, 5:73) The assertion that Jesus (peace be upon him) is divine stands in direct opposition to his own teachings. Nowhere in the Gospels does Jesus explicitly claim to be God or demand worship. Instead, he consistently refers to himself as a servant of God, emphasizing submission to the One who sent him. In Mark 12:29, when asked about the greatest commandment, Jesus quotes the Shema, the central tenet of Jewish monotheism: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Furthermore, Jesus frequently prays to God, acknowledges God’s authority as greater than his own, and describes himself as being sent by God. For instance, in John 5:30, he states: “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of Him who sent me.” These words unequivocally portray Jesus as a prophet and servant of God, aligning with the Qur’anic depiction of him: “The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food.” (Surah Al-Ma’idah, 5:75) By highlighting Jesus’ human needs and dependence on God, the Qur’an refutes any claim of divinity. His message, like that of all prophets, was to call humanity to worship the One true God, Allah, without partners or intermediaries. The elevation of Jesus to divine status is not rooted in his teachings but in later theological developments influenced by Greco-Roman religious thought. In conclusion, the Trinity introduces elements of polytheism into a faith that was originally monotheistic. Jesus himself never claimed divinity but consistently directed worship to the One true God. Islam restores this pure monotheism, affirming that Allah is one and incomparable, and that Jesus (peace be upon him) was a noble messenger sent to guide humanity back to the worship of the Creator alone.

[@claudiozanella256]

@@shirk_slayer No trinity exists, I am christian but I am sure that no trinity exists. Jesus indeed explains four gospels long that God is made BY THE SON AND THE FATHER. Period, no trinity! Contrary to what believed by other monotheistic religions, the almighty God cannot live a REAL TIME RELATIONSHIP with us, this would imply He is free to decide whatever He likes at any moment, this would imply that He doesn't know the future! This is why christianity is different, the "reference God" of Christianity is Christ, who has no power - at all - and doesn't know the future like a normal man. Jesus puts Himself on the SAME level as the Father and 2. even ABOVE that level. 1. He put Himself on the SAME level as the Father when He makes statements of the kind "Now the Son of man is glorified, and God is glorified in Him. If God is glorified in Him, God will also glorify Him in Himself." "I am in the Father and the Father in me" "He who sees me SEES HIM who sent me." 2. He puts Himself ABOVE that level when He states to be the only King of heaven, the ONLY SAVIOR. In other words only Jesus is entitled to grant access to heaven, NOT THE FATHER! "For the Father DOES NOT JUDGE anyone, but HAS GIVEN all judgment to the Son". "The Father has given Him AUTHORITY to exercise judgment because He is also the Son of man." The almighty God having regular "sons or daughters" is full nonsense! Taking into account the gospels and the logic, what is a reasonable explanation of everything, preserving MONOTHEISM? Jesus is God because of his IDENTITY: He HAD BEEN the almighty Father. Being the "Son of God" means Jesus DERIVES from the almighty Father, He is not a regular ADDITIONAL Son. He derives from the almighty Father in that the Father got rid of his power to become like a normal man, with no power at all. This is why Jesus says "He who sees me SEES HIM who sent me.", this is why He is fully God even when He is not almighty. He sits next to the Power of God (just a thing) because He hasn't got his own power any longer now, neither on heaven, nor on earth (when He was incarnated). He is like a normal man now. Since Jesus is here, of course this means it's impossible that the Father - whom He derives from - is present here too. Indeed Jesus says "the world has not known you", in other words the Father is absent, this is why "nobody has ever seen the Father". However, the Father is still able to be VIRTUALLY here with his words and action, even if NOBODY is actually here. This is why you say that the Father is a spirit (Jn.4:23,24). He is the "Spirit of God" aka Holy Spirit. He helped Jesus in the desert and later when speaking too. He was also responsible for Mary's pregnancy. If the "Spirit of God" is in you, this means that the almighty God in the form of a spirit is in you. All that means that Jesus is just with the Father - who is a spirit - whom He derives from. Thus, They are not the same, They are not distinct: They are not One, They are not Two. This means that God is more than One and less than Two in number.

[@infinitemonkey917]

All this guy said is you have to come to Jeezus.

[@evaadam3635]

Having faith in Jesus is better than having no faith in GOD at all... but you can always choose to have a personal faith in a loving God without needing any bible or any established religion, you are free..

[@nuqwestr]

Q-ran, it is written, Jesus did not die on the cross, did not shed blood, was not resurrected, but submitted to @llah, becoming a Muslim. How do you reconcile that?

[@Ridabu]

The Quran says the Bible is true. How do you cope with that?

[@nuqwestr]

@@Ridabu ? Bible ? Which one? The Q-ran writes that @llah deceived the Romans into believing J@sus was on the cross, that @llah is the "Great Deceiver". Imans tell stories of tricking J@ws into submitting to @llah. The Platonic Lie in Islam is called al-Taqiyya. It is in use today. Saying the "Bible is True" or "Jesus" is a prophet is al-Taqiyya.

[@micheal74rich]

@@Ridabu Quran talks about Injeel which was sent to Jesus of the Quran, not your Tom, Jerry and Henry made up books found in the NT which did not exist while Jesus was around.

[@JohnCrook-nf8wy]

The question I would ask is: Does any other religion have a suffering God like we have in Christianity?

[@evaadam3635]

...our free aware immortal souls are free splits of the Holy Spirit, so, we are all gods in a little way.. and we are all suffering because we are all away from our Original Home...

[@fredk9999]

What about baptism? And, in Catholicism, the baptism MUST be performed in the name of the Father AND THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT

[@evaadam3635]

...it is your faith that matters, not baptism... many children were baptized but still turned as Atheists to end in hell...

[@sandradixon6205]

After Jesus spoke to Paul on the road to Damascus, Paul became a Christian and remained a Christian until his death. Not only that, but he spent the rest of his life after his conversion working tirelessly to help others become Christians. He spent a number of years travelling on three missionary tours covering thousands of miles in order to accomplish this. Instead of persecuting the Christians, Paul was persecuted along with them. He was willing to suffer greatly and endure hardships to be the best Christian he could possibly be. (2 Corinthians 11:23-27) Of course Paul continued to worship the same God, the only One true God, but that doesn’t mean he saw himself as a Jew. When he converted to Christianity he learned that the Law to Israel was abolished when Christ died. He wrote at Romans 10:4, “Christ is the end of the Law”. Christians are under a new law, the law of the Christ. (Galatians 6:2) It isn’t possible to understand the Bible correctly if you try to mix man-made doctrines like the Trinity with the truth of the Bible.

[@realitycheck1231]

Our ego is obscuring the truth that everyone is part of the Trinity.

[@stevemartin6267]

There is not a different Heaven for every religion. We will all face Jesus at the moment of death. We will all know Him. The safest way to get to Heaven is via the church Jesus created on Earth, the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. Get Baptised obey the commandments and receive the sacraments. Love God , repent of sins and seek forgiveness. As to what happens to those who do not become Catholic, or know God it is not our place to condemn anyone. The judgment for any person is solely with God. Jesus will offer an ocean of mercy to those who seek it. We saw that with the Good Thief on the Cross. We do need to pray for the dead, despite protestant teachings to the contrary.

[@prasenjitghosh5852]

'The thing is somehow to unite the mind with God. You must not forget Him, not even once. Your thought of Him should be like the flow of oil, without any interruption. If you worship with love even a brick or stone as God, then through His grace you can see Him' - Sri Ramakrishna

[@razadara]

Christianity diverges sharply from Judaism in numerous ways, primarily in that it concretized and objectified God.

[@sandradixon6205]

The most important thing to clarify is that Jesus is not God. He never believed that he was God because he knew that he was the Son of God, created by God. (Colossians 1:15). For example, before ascending to heaven he said to Mary Magdalene, “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God”.(John 20:17) This shows that the resurrected Jesus viewed the Father as his God, just as the Father was God to Mary. There are other scriptures that show Jesus calling God “my God”. (Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34; Luke 23:46; Revelation 3:2, 12) These passages confirm that Jesus worships the heavenly Father as his God, just as his disciples do. Jesus always directed glory and worship to his Father. There are also many other scriptures that clearly show that Jesus isn’t God. The Trinity doctrine was invented by men nearly 300 years after Jesus’ death and is therefore not a Bible teaching. Logically, then, all the churches that worship a Trinitarian God are not worshipping the God of the Bible, the one true God. At Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus said that there would be those who called him Lord and claimed to prophesy and do powerful works in his name, but in verse 23 he says, “I will declare to them: “I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!” It isn’t up to humans to decide how they want to worship God because he tells us very clearly in his Word the Bible what is acceptable to him and what isn’t. The Bible shows that very soon all religions that don’t have God’s approval are going to be completely destroyed so he warns people to separate themselves from them. It’s therefore very important to worship God in the way that he approves.

[@larrymarkowitz8386]

I don’t find these sorts of discussions useful or interesting, yet I still click . . . Hoping.

[@evaadam3635]

...I understand.. for as long as one has sincere faith, different labels of God is really no big deal ...

[@Suma-333]

Wonder if he understood your question, Kuhn Sir ! 😊 Tho its nice to see him so devoted to The Christ! 🙏

[@questor5189]

There is the Living God, and then there is the son of the Living God.

[@evaadam3635]

...we are all represented by the 2nd part of the Holy Trinity which is "God the Son"...

[@philhart4849]

Please demonstrate the existence of this "Living God" of which you speak. I thank you in advance.

[@prasad_advait]

You should ask Acharya Prashant sir for better clarity.

[@sharonlee7111]

Christ means anointed Jesus was never anointed, Paul never met Jesus it was a supposed Vision by him alone.

[@diegotomasarene-morley7249]

Paul never says Jesus = YAHWEH

[@glencorreya7657]

Step off Planet Earth, travel to Mars or as in that famous Carl Sagan Voyager picture, Saturn.....and look back at that Pale Blue Dot. Then one dimly begins to perceive from that Pale Blue Dot perspective, just how silly we humans are actually are. Arguing, fighting and killing about something we haven't the faintest idea about! Hubris unlimited

[@Maxwell-mv9rx]

Show diferentes about Religious he figure out them keep out God atributies evidence . Consequencies is he doesnt figure out Religious true. It means he shows God is approaching rethoric rambling.

[@georghaberler7250]

It is obvious that Judaism, Islam and Christianity do not mean the same god, but the dicisive question is who’s god ist the highest/supreme god, in whom all are actually one. There is therefore a hierarchy up to the highest god and all shall be one means that all (human) female respectively male individuals shall be highest goddess respectively god IN the highest goddess respectively god. In my opinion god is NOT a supernatural being, but is his in himself who gives every (human) individual a self. Therefore JHWH (which can be translated with “I am who I am” or “I will prove myself to be” and is NOT interchangeable with El or Elohim) is the highest god. So to me there is a human devine couple (the highey goddess and the highest god and their children - dizygotic twins - a girl and a boy) who procreate mutually and who are integrated with an uncountable totality of identical copies respectively variations of themselves and with an uncountable totality of (human) female respectively male individuals, who will also be one with an uncountable totality of identical copies respectively variations of themselves, what means, that all (human) beings that have ever lived respectively whose existence is even conceivable, have to be represented within this four persons. But how did they come into existence? The highest goddesses and the highest god FATHERED themselves - each other, also carnal. They are our eternal parents human and godly as well. So the highest goddesses is also the mother of the highest god and in return he is not only her man, but her father as well and they are themselves children. She is his x-chromosome and he is her x-chromosome. She (the highest goddess) is her own x-chromosome (the second comes from the highest god) and he (the highest god) is his own y-chromosome (the x-chromosome comes from the highest goddess). The true story of our origin is not told in genesis, but in the book of song of songs by king Salomo. They are themselves children means that they are their children (not they have children). And we are their children as well. We are fathered not only by our parents but by the highest goddess and the highest god also. So if god is, every single female respectively male (human) being exists necessarily and any possible variation of our universe as well. So there is an uncountable totality of female or male (human) individuals and every single female or male (human) individual is self one (or should self be one) with an uncountable totality of identical copies or variations of her- respectively himself. That’s how I define Platons currently infinite quantity and god is this quantity or in terms of physics god is the cosmological singularity. From the mathematical point of view Platons currently infinite quantity is equivalent to the number line, an infinite straight line, which has neither a beginning nor an end and therefore must always have existed, before all time.

[@philhart4849]

All gods are fictions. It is also trivial to show that the God of the Bible cannot exist. And why pick on just major religions? Why not include Buddhism, Shinto and the Dreamtime? Talk about about selective thinking!

[@ninovelez100]

Why the jew god? Why not the pagans gods? Or the Native American? Maybe it has to do with how history went.

[@nuqwestr]

and why did history go that way? random?

[@ninovelez100]

@ emperor Constantine had to do a lot for that

[@aporist]

Of course it's the same god but with different proxies. Seems the Romans had exhausted their imagination.

[@munbruk]

Really?? You asked him what will happen to muslims when they die as if he knows what will happen to him when he dies. Muslims do worship the God of Jesus. In Matthew, people who enter the kingdom of heaven are ONLY the people who do the will of the "Father" (Allah), not the will of Jesus or any other creature.

[@OldWolf9226]

Don't Christians believe that Jesus is integral to salvation after death?

[@simoncardie9371]

Yet no one has ever come back from heaven to verify that.

[@OldWolf9226]

@@simoncardie9371 Watch a few NDE vids.

[@elsoil3387]

Wrong. Christians worship Jesus as the second person of the Trinity. The Qur'an says don't do that and worship Allah alone, via the very suspicious so-called prophethood of Mohammed. Jesus said you will know the false prophets by their fruits, and the Islamic world keep giving us their fruit again and again. It is also interesting how Hubal was the main god of Muhammad's tribe (Quraish) before Islam. Hubal is brought into Mecca via Syria. Hubal is actually Baal, the moon god who reveled in human sacrifice. Looks like he disguised himself as "Allah", the greatest of deceivers, as the Qur'an calls him.

[@munbruk]

​@@elsoil3387 The majority of Christians that you see ae not following Jesus, they are following what some greco pagan people speculated and wrote about Jesus. They have multiple gods, practice cannibalism and blood sacrifice just like pagan did. Don't have God's book, instead they have pagan Biographies destined to pagan audiences...They don't know the name of the true God...Their entire religion is based on a lie that Jesus /God was crucified as a sacrifice for your sins...

[@brothermine2292]

Uninteresting. At least the guest doesn't disguise his bias that he believes in the real god and other religions are false. Agnosticism is the sensible "belief."

[@surendirenparthasarathy9087]

We may all worship Ai. The one true god

[@johnnyblue4799]

Never.

[@cosmoshfa88savant66]

I Worship Me I AM A GOD,,

[@asyetundetermined]

This, unironically, is the core of all religion

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@asyetundetermined Can you quote a verse from NT, where Jesus said: "I am the God and worship ME" explicit statement ?

[@asyetundetermined]

@@LogicStandsBeforeGod why would this be necessary? The books, the rituals, the social hierarchy, etc. are all secondary to the prime motivating factors perpetuating religious behavior. Don’t focus on the window dressing.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@asyetundetermined _"why would this be necessary? "_ If God wouldn't tell you, who God is, then you would expect Tom, Jerry and Henry would to tell you who God is?

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

You are the only true worshipper..

[@thomasvendetti3742]

You could say it’s a mixed metaphor.

[@sanjeevjain5519]

Let us list out good points from all religions that can be called good points by all and that are closer to truth. Then we should think of making this new age religion that will be based on truth and that will have a universal appeal.

[@imgoing2stayonyourmind654]

Not one mystic theist would go for that idea, because the rationale that you're wielding, would mean we'd have to defenestrate the most captivating parts of the Abrahamic series. That being, the mythical wizardry of supernatural fairy tales. What you're proposing is social mores for a summum bonum. But they are obsessed with having "faith" in a reality that defies the laws of physics. Why else do you think, folks flock to the theater to see Harry Potter 😄

[@sanjeevjain5519]

@@imgoing2stayonyourmind654 yes, maybe. We should keep this universal religion based on truth on our wishlist.

[@truesay786]

To believe in Islam you are Required to believe in Jesus Moses and all previous prophets. Jesus was not God that’s all. Islam is the most perennial approach to the one true God because it confirms all previous true prophets and religions but clarified that they changed the message eg making Jesus into coequal with God.

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

Religion... Game of imaginations.

[@Ekam-Sat]

Just like you?

[@sujok-acupuncture9246]

​@@Ekam-Sat like your God.

[@UriyahRecords]

This interview is cringe

[@cartoonseries3484]

Muslim are very clear about God and believe in God of Moses, Ibrahim and Jesus. We call our God Allah.

[@sandradixon6205]

Allah is the Arabic word for the English word God. It isn't a personal name it's a title just as 'Lord' and 'Sir' are titles.

[@ansleyrubarb8672]

...No one is able to answer your question, but think & respect everybody. There are many paths that all lead to GOD. Just review your knowledge & see the extent of GOD'S Handiwork, respectfully ordinarychuck hotmail... captivus brevis... Blessings...

[@pandoraeeris7860]

Tribalism.

[@nh54guesthouse]

There is Only One God Period who made All Religions All souls All bodies All humans All Animals All Creatures All Foliage All Land Air Water Fire Universe All Everything & All Nothing. " There is No Other God, an Another but The One Lord God Creator King Absolute Master Infinite Eternal Imperceptible Unique Eternal Immortal Magnificent Gigantous & infinitesimal Prolific Profound ...run out Words... Unknown GOD of gods !!!

[@realitycheck1231]

God is knowledge - not perception. By recognizing Jesus Christ who is your brother, you recognize the Christ within you. The face of Christ has to be seen before the memory of God can return. Seeing the face of Christ involves perception. No one can look on knowledge. But the face of Christ is the great symbol of forgiveness. It is salvation. It is the symbol of the real world. Whoever looks on this no longer sees the world. He is as near to Heaven as is possible outside the gate. But from this gate it is no more than just a step inside. It is the final step. And this is left to God. Anyone who is a great symbol of forgiveness will produce the same affect as the Christ. I will take it a step further; anyone who recognizes their guiltlessness and other people's guiltlessness without the need for a symbol is near to heaven.

[@Roshan-q6n]

We are quite capable of creating heaven or hell in our own lives. There is no need to actually go there.

[@realitycheck1231]

@Roshan...I've always said that heaven and hell is a state of mind. God (love ) and the ego (fear) are states of mind.

[@philhart4849]

God is a fiction.

[@Roshan-q6n]

@philhart4849 A pointless statement and a totally unconvincing one.

[@philhart4849]

@@Roshan-q6n "A pointless statement and a totally unconvincing one." I take it from your words that you are capable of demonstrating the existence of your particular god. If you fail to do so then it shows that you are a pointless person devoid of debating skills.

[@jennymiko]

The acceptance of different religions and beliefs are the only way forward in the future.

[@micheal74rich]

You mean by take down everyone who is none-jew in the Pal for Christians' Jesus return to come and for rapture take place?

[@mrshankerbillletmein491]

I have heard talk of a one world religion as part of the new world order

[@jennymiko]

@ Please read it again, and do not try to manipulate what I have said! Thank you! 🙏

[@OldWolf9226]

Maybe so, but which one is right and allows eternal life after death?

[@jennymiko]

@ That is a personal choice and decision. Why do you care if I have eternal life? Seriously you could care less. All of humanity is reborn over and over again. There is no physical heaven or hell anywhere except in your mind!

[@juancorrea9037]

He makes no sence at all. If all 3 came from Abraham and his God therefore it is the same God. Salvation and Jesus are christian only and it doesnt change the God they all believe in. All he did was the same thing all christians do, if if not through Jesus then you all will go to hell. It doesnt matter that they worship the same God and live a good life they still go to hell. There is no hell in the other 2 religions therefore there is no need for Jesus in them.

[@johnnyblue4799]

But there's hell in Islam and in Judaism... and it's not the same God. The Christian God is triune. The Holy Trinity is one God with three personae -The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. Islam and Judaism reject this and reject the divinity of Jesus. So not the same God.

[@juancorrea9037]

@johnnyblue4799 Theyre not talking about the trinity, theyre talking about God or what you call the father and that is the same for all 3 or is there more than 1 Abraham that I dont know about? Abrahamic religions have the same Abraham thats why they are called that way. Jesus has nothing at all with the subject. God is just one, the rest, including Jesus, you, me, the universe, etc are creations of the father wich is the subject here. Same Abraham, same God, what is there to argue?

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@juancorrea9037 The Holy Trinity IS God in Christianity. You can't talk about Trinity OR God, because it's the same thing. As for Jesus, the Christian faith is clearly expressed in the Nicene Creed: "We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, begotten from the Father before all ages, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; ..." So Jesus is NOT created (i.e. "not made") and is true God. Now, whether you believe this, or not, it is irrelevant for this discussion. I'm just showing you that what you believe about God and about Jesus, is NOT what the Christianity says. Abrahamic means really that the 3 religions have the same roots, but that doesn't make them the same and it doesn't mean they view God the same way. I'll stop here, before this gets too long.

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

multiple God ? Rob 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@kanez691]

What a horrible fundamentalist interview partner!

[@Ekam-Sat]

☝️

[@asyetundetermined]

Laughably not, no. There are as many conceptions of “god” as there are people to conceive them.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

All beliefs in God share a common attribute: occupying the _"top of the hierarchy."_ The different belief systems in God parallels the different believers in String Theory vs Simulations vs Multiverse vs Many Worlds vs Big Bang, etc. ... All of these widely varying theories and the people who believe in them want their theory to end up as the ultimate explanation for "Existence."

[@petermartin5030]

God literally is collective belief. This was personified to help convey the concept to the masses. Different gods are exactly different collective beliefs.

[@evaadam3635]

... all roads lead to Rome... likewise, all faiths lead to the same GOD.... it is your sincere faith that can save your soul and not how imperfect men interpreted God, divinely inspired or not....

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Christians say that Jesus of NT was a "prince of peace" whereas Jesus himself said that I did not come to bring peace on Earth but the sword This is what OT says about believing in "prince". Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Alan Torrance says Christians don't get credit for all Christians works Christians do. All you have got an empty claim and belief. What is the distinction between a saint and sinner in your faith as you know being a sinner is more profitable on Earth than being a 'saint' ? In short your faith has no meaning, so it doesn't matter how you live life you're not supposed to do those things yes but like what does it even mean if your are not supposed to do something but you will not suffer the consequences that's meaningless threat it's an empty threat. In a nutshell all you got an empty faith and an empty threat, you expect the Creator of heaven will allow you to enter heaven, being a sinner throughout your existence on Earth.

[@janhoogendijk8604]

Useless scientific time is wasted on logic of most primitive thought that there is a creator.

[@evaadam3635]

..what was once primitive is paradise earth that now is driven to the gates of hell by material science...

[@Roshan-q6n]

All that is, is a creation of mind and imagination.

[@browngreen933]

No way does a desert tribal weather god named Yaweh represent the mystery totality of Existence. 😮

[@jackwt7340]

Where did Jesus go after his ascension? In fact, Jesus is still living in the Milky Way Galaxy, and he has been reincarnated as a Draenei.

[@philhart4849]

I wonder if He takes the odd trip to either of the two Magellanic Clouds, or perhaps even beyond to Andromeda ...

[@sunyata4974]

There is one fundamental energy/consciousness in the universe. We must live according to its nature. The aim of physics and metaphysics is to uncover this nature, which includes us.

[@fredk9999]

A good topic and question. How do Islamists differ so much and fight among themselves? Christians read from the same book and find major differences among themselves-not to mention Orthodox

[@evaadam3635]

...only labels and interpretations differ but have basic things in common such as FAITH...

[@fredk9999]

@ I hope you are right

[@LuuLuong-bn8iy]

😅😂😂😂😂 LoL 😅😅😅😂

[@tomdaniels6868]

This kid has drunk the cool aide.

[@PEM-zt5rd]

No. Period.

[@noelsetterington648]

Alan how can a jew or a Muslim who have rejected Jesus as their saviour be saved? Paul said there is only one named by which man can be saved Jesus. That is a fairytale you have suggested they go to God as in Jesus afterwards and are assessed on what they really believe, that is not written in God's word. Other religious some of their followers believe in Jesus's teachings as good for every day living Yet they have not received Christ as saviour. They believe in other gods or their own good works which are self-righteous filthy rags to our Jesus. It is by the grace of God through faith without works that we are saved not a look at me contest. ❤

[@micheal74rich]

Paul was ordinary man, Allah did not send revelation via ordinary men. Every other man who allegedly authored books in the NT, was ordinary men. Do you take seriously Sikhs' holy book GGS, the holy book GGS was authored by bunch of men? If your answer is "no" then you can ignore NT as a whole, NT is same as GGS.

[@asyetundetermined]

“I am in and you are out! No good things for the others.” What a tribal-brained, lower organism model you subscribe to. This is grade school playground style reasoning. Grow up.

[@noelsetterington648]

@micheal74rich we are all special to God he created us. He didn't make a mistake we are His children

[@micheal74rich]

@@noelsetterington648 It is funny, how you sidetracked from your post when I replied to your post.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Two anecdotal experiences posted by two fellow Americans and there was no middle man in both narrated story posted on YT. Two Americans asked God for guidance from their heart in whole sincerity, it was Allah who answered their call, one man came from Jewish family and other man came from U.S military family. Both men came to Islam for the miracle their experienced, true story posted on YT, unbias reports, both men started to hear Islamic call-to-prayer Azan in the middle of nowhere, both men reported same incident. Both men were former """enemies""" of Muslims. If it were NOT for the miracle, they wouldn't have bothered with Islam, both men were truly longing for God and guidance. If your heart is pure, this could be you in the next, you cannot fake your supplication to Allah. Your Creator knows about you, more than you know of your own self inside and outside...

[@dismalthoughts]

Buddhists have stories of people praying to Boddhisattvas and being miraculously saved or healed. Muslims have stories of people praying to Allah and being miraculously saved or healed. Christians have stories of people praying to Jesus and being miraculously saved or healed. Hinduism, Wicca, Judaism, Luciferianism, Native American spirituality, Sikhism, etc... Nearly every religion and spiritual practice has stories of miracles.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@dismalthoughts _" Nearly every religion and spiritual practice has stories of miracles. "_ Above two miracles were posted by former Jew and former Christian from military family. Whereas your claim of "spiritual practice has stories of miracles" contained with inherent biases, but my post above does not have inherent biases.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@dismalthoughts 1) These men truly longing for God guidance and they supplicated to God from their heart, which resulted in miracle, in other words two separate individuals had prior supplication to God and then their supplication was connected with a miracle and it was a not random miracle and these men were knew they had supplicated to God. 2) These men were former """"enemies""" of Muslims, which means they were not bias in their claim in the least. 3) These men had no exterior motives such as looking for immigration, looking for a spouse or looking for financial gain. 4) These men were not born to Muslims parents or brought up on Muslim culture. 5) These men had no Muslims friends or connection to Islam and there was no middle man between them the God showed and answered their supplication, no middle-man in the story posted. 6) The video was not made by Muslims and it was not posted by Muslims men.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Committing shirk/shituf is a directed to Infinite Being and every other sins are finite, there is no forgiveness before God for shirk/shituf.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Shirk/shituf will get one infinite time.

[@Atheist-o3n911]

Buddism originates in nepal.

[@OldWolf9226]

It originates in Deer Park, (India) with the first discourse.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Christians are after a none existing 'god' who isn't the God of Abraham according to Jews and Muslims. Isaiah 45-5 *There is no God besides Me* . Deuteronomy 32:39 *there is no god with me* Isaiah 44:6 *beside me there is no God* . Isaiah 46:9 *I am God, and there is none like Me*

[@dismalthoughts]

And Muslims/Jews are also wrong according to Christians. Nearly every religion thinks every other religion is wrong.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@dismalthoughts _"And Muslims/Jews are also wrong according to Christians. "_ According to Christianity, Jesus of NT is subordinate 'god' who does not know when the Hour will come? It is only the Father god knows it. There is no such thing as subordinate 'god' in the mind of Muslims and Jews but there is in the mind of Christians and Hindus.

[@dismalthoughts]

​@@LogicStandsBeforeGod Context: I was raised Christian but am not anymore. Christians don't view Jesus as a "subordinate" god; they view Jesus and Yahweh as exactly the same person. It's a monotheistic religion that believes in only one God -- Yahweh -- who simply takes different forms: the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. The most often used explanation is this analogy: you're a son to your parents, a father to your kids, and a friend to your friends. You're simultaneously 1 person and also 3 different people. That's how God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit (the Trinity) are. 1 God, multiple forms. Now, as you point out, there are places where it says Jesus doesn't know XYZ but God (the Father) does, so doesn't that mean they *are* different gods and Christians who say otherwise are just lying to themselves? No. They're still the same exact God. There is only 1 God. The Father + the Son + the Holy Ghost = 1 God. And it's at this point as a kid someone would usually say _"yep, it's weird and one of those things you just have to accept because it's beyond human understanding"_ 😛 All 3 religions worship the same God of Abraham. Christians simply believe that Yahweh incarnated into human form as Jesus to teach and save humans. But Jesus is still Yahweh.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@dismalthoughts _"Christians don't view Jesus as a "subordinate" god; they view Jesus and Yahweh as exactly the same person. "_ Your holy books NT tells, your Jesus of NT does not know the when the Hour will come and so they are not one and the same person.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@dismalthoughts _"All 3 religions worship the same God of Abraham. "_ Not according to Jews and Muslims. Jews and Muslims ruled out that Christians' 'god' isn't the God of Abraham.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

Christians holy books are authored by ordinary men, whereas Quran's authorship goes to the Creator of the universe.

[@dismalthoughts]

Christians say that God was speaking through the authors of the Bible. Muslims say that Allah was speaking through Muhammad. Fun fact: nearly every religion believes its holy texts are the divine word of some god. And nearly all of them believe that makes their religion uniquely special, somehow failing to see how it makes them all the same.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@dismalthoughts _"Christians say that God was speaking through the authors of the Bible. "_ You see, in the Quran God of Abraham speaks in first-person narrative to Mohammed(pbuh) and there hundreds of verse found in the Quran God speaks in first-person narrative. Can you quote me a verse from the NT, where the God of Abraham speaks in first-person narrative to NT writers or NT authors or NT holy-words recipient? Also quote me a verse from NT, where God of Abraham has given prophet title to NT writers or NT authors or NT holy-words recipient in first-person narrative? If you cannot produce it, remember, Sikhs holy books is just like your NT, Sikhs worship the holy book GGS and you worship a man as God. There are 4300 faiths out there command mankind to worship a man as God or command mankind to worship an object created by men, you know why all of them commanding mankind to do the same?

[@grumpy9478]

@@dismalthoughts hey! abandon facts... go with emotion-rich faith that underlies any assertions that get you through the day.

[@LogicStandsBeforeGod]

@@grumpy9478 My posts does not contained with emotion but rather accurate information about World religions.

[@evaadam3635]

"All Religions Worship the Same God" The following light may help you understand why, hopefully : Stone-age people believed in the Almighty Creator by just witnessing the Awesome Wonders of Nature... and because of their faith, many of them received the heavenly light that made them understand GOD better.... they then share this light to their descendants .. .. the sharing of this light went on and on from generations to generations that finally were written on tablets, scrolls, bibles, etc.. being interpreted in many different ways due to the writer's language handicap in ancient times... ...the passage of this light from generations to generations being interpreted, or misinterpreted, had led to the development of many religions from all over the world ... this is why you have genesis, bible, koran, torah, etc etc... ... I believe I received the same light because of my sincere faith, but fortunate enough that I have enough available words today to interpret and convey this light much better, unlike ancient writers whose literacy was still in its infancy... this is why you find my interpretation somehow different but has many things in common with what you read from religious books.... ..nevertheless, it is your sincere faith in the existence of a Loving GOD that matters that can save your soul, and not how imperfect men interpreted the unknown GOD through the light they received...

[@miasma5733]

Allah the slave master and Jesus the savior god are the same god?

[@grumpy9478]

why not? they rely on him to justify the same bad behaviors.