Cloud and Tifa Meet Again After Years Apart FFVII Original Game

The moment when Cloud and Tifa meet again after years apart. Subsequent to this scene Cloud becomes involved in AVALANCHE, based at Seventh Heaven bar, and the beginning scenes of the original game unfold.
P.s. REMAKE IS HAPPENING

[@Growmetheus]

Tifa: “Are you okay?” Cloud: “goon.... ga... ga”

[@ianvillafanegonzalez862]

Are tifa and barret married or together?

[@whiteshadow8152]

Ian Villafañe Gonzalez no.

[@ianvillafanegonzalez862]

@@whiteshadow8152 thanks but were they together or no?

[@churrbumlion]

Ian Villafañe Gonzalez never together just worked together

[@johnlawful2272]

@@churrbumlion tell that to pornhub

[@taxo]

Tifa:"are you ok? You dont look well" Cloud:"yeah? I'm fine" *she turns a second* *hands on his head he starts shaking a 400lbs sword like crazy*

[@legiojavanica4942]

Lol

[@wowno5763]

@Andrei Lacerda "ACKTUALLY" ok nerd, he was telling a joke.

[@Natttttttttt]

Wow No lol I think you’re being mean I thought he gave an interesting fact

[@kriss007G]

Its funny he remembered it was five years and it was true. Just that tifa never saw him. His most important memories stayed there.

[@maJastoL]

How does he even know how long it's been since Nibelheim though?

[@funkyfranx]

@@maJastoL Yeah good question. Probably just have to fill in the details ourselves, he could have seen the date on a newspaper stand or something

[@maJastoL]

@@funkyfranx Yeah or Zack found out somewhere along their way back and it's stuck

[@Youraveragweaboo]

​@maJastoL In crisis core, when Zack read Arith's letter she mentioned that it's been 4 years. Plus there's been a lot of cuts between then and Zack's final showdown. So he might even mentioned it because he always talked to Cloud.

[@Limit02]

Yeah it’s a little vague how much of Zack’s talking Cloud retained while he was mako poisoned But it’s likely he might’ve retained an instance of Zack mentioning how long it’s been after he himself learned about the time skip

[@HashBandicoot356]

"That's right. Im Cloud." Answering himself more than Tifa.

[@CJusticeHappen21]

"I never thought I'd find you here." Implying subtly that perhaps she has been looking for him.

[@mrdarkstar3756]

Shes been looking for years.

[@LARK-ht7kd]

Has she now ??

[@Defe100]

that's just cheap translation shenanigans

[@CJusticeHappen21]

@@Defe100 Do you know what the original Japanese said?

[@lmaomax4341]

@@mrdarkstar3756 Really?

[@billybatts8283]

You've got to remember, for Cloud the events of 5 years ago probably felt like 5 minutes ago. He literally went from his mom dead, home town destroyed, Tifa maybe dead, Zack almost dead and then killing Sepiroth to save them, him bleeding out and then Hojo gets him... Then he's locked away a tortured experiment for 5 years, then wakes to watch Zack his best friend die and stumbles from that into Midgar.... That's a horrifically nightmarish hell worse than any FF protagonist I can think of.

[@carlycrays2831]

When I first played this game, this scene didn't freak me out too much. But after a few playthroughs and CC, it is really disturbing to think about. Had Tifa not found Cloud, he probably would have just sat in that spot.

[@moverdome]

not only that, he would have probably died...

[@ciblochannel666]

Not only that, the game would prolly not exist

[@Marupuff]

Not only that, but this comment thread wouldn’t even exist.

[@Schematist]

@@Marupuff I wouldn't exist

[@guts-141]

Someone would bound to help him The slums is not filled with evil folks all of it

[@unskillfullymasterful]

Man it’s like discovering gold in your own home... the story is so good and I never even realized it. Back then I was more about the battle and grinding levels. I need to replay this game!

[@frogisis]

It's seriously fantastic. I think it came out much better than the creators even intended, just because they put so much personal intensity and honesty into it, and it pushes up against the border of what popular fiction is capable of. I was prepared to kinda disown it in embarrassment after playing it again as an adult after so many years, like "oh I can see now it's just one more shonen action yarn about sexy anime people with a little philosophy 101 thrown in," but no, there's something genuinely special about it that I didn't have the experience and education to appreciate back then (tbf my Japanese is also a lot better now, but even in English a lot of it comes through). But yeah, it really rewards exploring around and paying close attention. There's tons of great writing about it online too that can give you new windows into the story that really open it up for you, from people who clearly have the English major chops to have genuine insights but not go off the deep end with it either.

[@frogisis]

@Rough Divide Yeah, those environments are still amazing. I'm confident you could take a lot of those backdrops (especially the nature ones), clean them up a little bit, and hang them in a gallery and even some of the snootiest critics would nod approvingly. But everything from the junk making up the Midgar slums to the eerie, misty glows seeping into a cave is so carefully considered purely to be beautiful and evocative, and to hint that every place has its own unique history of some kind. Yeah, that Dyne scene is really strong. You get a good feeling of the self-destructive powerlessness that state can drive you to when he's acting all like "you'd better kill me, because otherwise I can't stop myself from killing my daughter, I can't accept her forgetting me and her mother so I'm going to reunite us all." Haha, I'm probably the last person to notice this but it wasn't until this time that I realized the 2 "crosses" on the edge of the cliff aren't ruined parts of a Corel building just to break up the visual line of the cliff and balance the composition with the house on the other side, but actually graves for his wife and Marlene. There's so much in this game about a feeling of powerlessness, and not just in the literal sense of your control of Cloud being taken away. The part that REALLY got to me this time was the whole first time in the Northern Crater, from Sephiroth's illusion to when Cloud gives him the Black Materia. The growing sense of doom and panic is amazing as it slowly builds from confusion and uneasiness to literally the beginning of the end of the world, and in my head I could absolutely hear Tifa's voice breaking as she tries more and more desperately to keep Cloud from believing Sephiroth, and my brain played this sorta soft, choking wail when she eventually just breaks down after Cloud apologizes to her for not being real, as she not only loses him but retroactively the time they spent together. It'll be interesting to see how they do these kinds of things with voice acting.

[@fadidabban]

소라 you haven’t played Xenogears , have you ?

[@bennysusanto5524]

The same with me. Never appreciated the story and music that much when I was a kid. I realized how gorgeous the story and music are after I reached my 20.

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

Most of the people who were saying that FF7 is not a masterpiece and is just overrated played the game when they were too young to understand everything. The game even has parallels in the real world. That's why sometimes, some extreme-minded people think the game is a propaganda. I just hate others then when they focus on it as anti-capitalist propaganda because I see this as a propaganda against pollution/nature's destruction (destruction of the planet = abuse of lifestream by ShinRa) and climate-change. The Weapons can actually be interpreted as the embodiment of the natural disasters brought upon pollutions (destruction of the lifestream). The Weapons are actually described, "They appear when the Planet is in danger, reducing everything to nothingness." There are just so many parallels and allusions that my comment is just scratching the surface. The micro-story (about the characters) and the macro (about the world) are both fantastic and they both resolve each other by the end of the game.

[@mrdarkstar3756]

Tifa is best girl. How can it be denied? she saves Clouds life twice. She shows how strong she is emotionally by taking a backseat to Aerith's advanced toward Cloud, despite having strong feelings for him herself. Tifa though worried about Cloud can only watch as Aerith changes him and becomes this new positive for Cloud after roughly 2 months not being able to find out what's wrong with him she resolved to just wanting to see him happy even if it's with another woman, that's true love. Tifa finds her strength when Cloud is truly lost, it's a beautiful story.

[@usagimodoki8660]

And she gets the man in the end.

[@laurajanco2i]

She sees that Aerith is firting with him and doesn't do anything because really, she is such a composed soul and always respects his space. Cloud, with Aerith acts like the cool guy, he jokes with her and feels the need to protect her, but as soon as he is with Tifa he lets go of that cool personality, to show a more vulnerable side, the real part of him. And all the while, Tifa is waiting for him, thrugh hard times and good times. She is a real woman. Also Aerith doesn't change Cloud... Cloud doesn't change with anyone, he just shows his real self when he is with Tifa...the entire time he's with Aerith, his behavior is influenced by Jenova and Aerith is flirting with him because he reminds her of Zack. Tifa is not taking a step back, she is just more respectful because she knows he's not being in his right mind and wants to take care of him first. While Aerith just wants the Soldier that she sees in Cloud, when we know that in reality he's none of that. Tifa doesn't care about backseating, because not only Cloud himself doesn't show signs of liking another woman, but also because she knows that she has to find the real him and take him back before making a move. The "Aerith changes Cloud", is a fairytail that people who didn't get the meaning of the game, make up to satisfy their headcanons, when it's not like that at all. If anything, Cloud's fake persona, feeds off of the ego that Aerith, wanting her bodyguard to rescue her, builds in him, making him stray further from his real self. The only way Aerith changes him is with her treating him the way she used to do with Zack, so that Cloud's persona (based on Zack), will react to her in ways that real Cloud wouldn't normally. Especially when he treats Aerith so badly and rudely one second and the second after he's back into bodyguard mode, while he never says anything rude to Tifa. Haven't people ever noticed that?

[@hakuriana4515]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDESTAND IT! My respect unknow person

[@frankpoole8645]

Aerith's still better. Lol

[@chumb3784]

@@frankpoole8645 no lol

[@frogisis]

Back when I was a teenager I didn't really understand or appreciate Tifa, but now as an adult with like book learnin and degrees and shit it's clear what a great character she is. I wish they gave us more from her point of view, especially during the visit to the "Potemkin village" Nibelheim, but we still get a lot in terms of the terrible situation she gets put in relative to Cloud. I don't think many of us could have handled it better. And she was right to be afraid that the truth (assuming she herself wasn't the crazy one) would lead to catastrophe, in a worse way than she could have imagined-Cloud lost the single shred of personal narrative that was holding him together against his own shame and inadequacy and couldn't even bring himself to fight against starting the countdown to the end of the world. No wonder she collapses in despair and grief in the North Crater, and slept for a week after everything she was carrying came out at once. But she still didn't give up on Cloud, not only as the only other bond to the most nightmarish experience of her life and the key to her own past & the reality of her own self that she needed to reclaim, but for Cloud's sake as well, as a companion she'd grown close to for what she begins to realize is actually the first time ever, even as he seemed to grow further and further away-It's just like Barret said after she put Cloud back together: she's some kinda lady. That moment of intimacy under the Highwind feels like such a great bittersweet victory because not only does she "get the boy" in the end, but everything in her is at peace and she's able to treasure the only thing she has left, prepared in the event no one else comes back to head down with him alone into what they believe will be their deaths, with only a slim hope of it even making a difference, because they have to try for the sake of something greater than both of them. can't fuckin wait for that remake aaaaaaaaaaaa

[@astr43us]

I get the same feels playing the game again as an adult. I always wanted to put Aeris and Cloud together, but it's obvious that Tifa has a true heart for him.

[@douglasholland3]

Astr aeus screw Aerois She belongs with zack after he died for her.

[@moverdome]

beautiful words. tifa is beautiful inside and out. i can't wait for the remake as well!

[@carlycrays2831]

I think both Tifa and Zack are totally different characters once you grow up. They give Cloud everything and if it wasn't for them, he would be nothing. Like, literally he would be a vegetable.

[@chefmannnn]

I have a news flash from the future for you buddy, the remake is pretty bad. Nomura completely changed the storyline :)

[@ghostaskrens7012]

After playing CC, it's hard seeing Cloud like this:(

[@LoneTreePeak]

My favorite game of all time without a doubt still to this day. Tifa was such a gem 💎 to Cloud and such a huge part of the story. She really helped him when he was at the lowest point of the game. If it wasn't for her, Cloud might've never snapped out of his state and possibly died. Thanks for sharing.

[@abiraakram6971]

At first I never understood this scene because I was little back then but now that I have played a lot more games and gotten older this scene makes more sense. If Tifa hadn’t been there to see Cloud then who knows what could’ve happened to him. He could’ve died.

[@gasparguruoftime5475]

There are so many little moments in this game that I always find out the next time I watch or play. This time it was the fact that Tifa didn't realize it was Cloud right away, and when the guard just said "poor kid" and left him there, Tifa went up to this assumed stranger to help them out. Shows a lot about her personality without having to say it out loud. Also Cloud moving like a zombie and responding to Tifa's "Cloud?" with "That's right. I'm Cloud" like some type of robot is so good. I hope they do that moment justice in the remake project.

[@NovaV000]

Playing the remake touches on Tifas feelings about this a lot more, you can tell in the first hour of the game she cares and is worried about cloud, she got him an apartment right away so she could keep him close and safe, but she didn’t want to directly tell him that, she sorta tricked cloud into staying

[@decksteroussnail]

1:16 5 years cause Tifa didn't know he saved her

[@ErManu10]

So many years already that I don't remember anything about that. Can you remind me why Cloud thinks it's been 5 years and Tifa 7?

[@decksteroussnail]

​@@ErManu10 Cloud never showed his face to Tifa back 5 years when the Nihlbiheim stuff happens. Cloud hid his face as a normal grunt. So he did meet Tifa, but Tifa didn't know. When he's found here at the train station he says 5 years by accident.

[@ErManu10]

@@decksteroussnail ahhh ok. I knew he was hidding his face, but I didn't know he was saying 5 years by mistake. Thanks.

[@vidar8117]

You know how it is, he saver her, she saves him, round and round it goes

[@cunnyman]

Actually, the incident was 7 years ago. But to Tifa, Cloud wasn't around for much longer than that.

[@MadarakiFran]

those flashes and buzzes used to scare the crap out of me

[@spike007980]

The flashes and buzzes are now painful to see.

[@u.a.perfectace7786]

That's the Jenova Cells at work. Mako poisoning, trauma, regret, and weakened mind makes for a terrible host that won't survive (Jenova is parasite after all. Manipulates Cloud on all levels to make this SOLDIER persona) The remake uses the effects similar to the ones used in Advent Children. I totally forgot how the original portrayed Jenova's fuckery.

[@khfan4life365]

Cloud and Tifa should adopt that dog and get married.

[@beeebeee]

This takes me back... So much nostalgia...

[@vigo2669]

Fun fact: This scene was not in the original japanese version of the game. It was added to the international version (the one we got with Emerald and Ruby weapon also added).

[@ahmetkeskinoglu_]

I dont remember where this scene played, do you know? If you do can you tell me

[@stickygaloop]

@@ahmetkeskinoglu_ Believe it happens right after the events of the Northern Crater. Tifa was dreaming this scene before she wakes up in Junon from a weeklong sleep.

[@tmcttf8087]

That's not good. This cutscene should've always been in the game.

[@lolololol7573]

Added? So this wasn't present in the Japanese version, or was it different? It feels vital to the story.

[@gibbs615]

Can't wait to see what THIS scene will be like in the remake!

[@carlycrays2831]

Yeah, it's going to be really hard to watch.

[@gibbs615]

@@carlycrays2831 Why's that?! It'll be too depressing for you?

[@carlycrays2831]

@@gibbs615 I mean, they're going to really be able to show just how absolutely broken Cloud is at this point. He's still sick from the Mako poisoning, he's delirious, he's in the throws of a mental break essentially.

[@gibbs615]

@@carlycrays2831 Oh yeah you're right

[@PandemicCat7]

Get the feels train rollin

[@diabeticlegend]

learning about the lore before this makes it all the more a tears-in-my-eyes wtf moment

[@sarunasgincas939]

Cloud barely alive for last half of a year after mako poisoning... Zack says inspiring speech after sacrificing his life: Cloud still barely alive... Tifa: My parents are not home. Cloud instantly fine and starts swinging 120lbs sword like crazy.

[@stormsamba6070]

120? Thats super undersale

[@cloudkitt]

Always loved this scene.

[@i.m.j.2160]

God tifa is the best girl for cloud!

[@dangerwarg9682]

It sure was hard on Tifa here cuz not only was Cloud not acting right, she couldn't fully trust her own memory cuz she was in a coma. So she's stuck with a huge mystery and the only people who know the truth is dead, cloudy as fuck or herself.

[@-caesar3751]

true love

[@ekawiyani1089]

" Cloud, Tifa found you when you were lying on the side of the road ... What would happened if Tifa hadn't found you? " " Cloud, after everything Tifa did to you and you still see other women ??? " 😥 This girl not only looks beautiful but she also has a beautiful heart .. Best girl, Tifa Lockhart 💖👍

[@whiteshadow8152]

*Tifa Lockhard?*

[@ekawiyani1089]

@@whiteshadow8152 i mean Tifa Lockhart

[@usagimodoki8660]

@@whiteshadow8152 Not really, nothing happened with other women.

[@hraberuka2847]

Tifa really has beautiful heart ❤️She is Cloud's true love and i know it is different game but she really is Cloud's Light 💖

[@raitoningusutoreto9851]

0:44 Basically Tifa gives a name to this Zack clone.

[@noctncloti4411]

This is a very important scene. It was raining that day. The theme song "Hollow" of FF7R was made with the image of Cloud being alone in the rain. I believe that "Hollow" is a Cloud of Mako poisoning. Bloody and bruised Brought to my knees When beaten down When broken up You would appear, Reach out to me, Heal every wound, And make me whole ♪ Tifa is Cloud's Light ✨ I can't wait to see this reunion scene in a remake!

[@carlycrays2831]

Yeah, I can only imagine this scene animated with better models and graphics and voice acting. It's going to be really disturbing!

[@YoudonGettit]

The song is adressed to someone who is gone tho so I think it's probably about Cloud and Aerith (in the viewpoint of a Cloud after the OG).

[@noctncloti4411]

@@YoudonGettit Cloud has lost Tifa in Nibelheim. When he last saw Tifa, she was slashed by Sephiroth and dying. He had been confine by Shinra for the next five years, so he didn't know if she was alive. He lost everything. His mother, Tifa, his hometown, the dream he wanted to be a Soldier, Zack... He was completely worn out body and soul. It was when he feeling of loss the most in his life. At that time, who appears and who reaches out to him? Why is he regaining consciousness as soon as he meets Tifa, despite being a Mako poisoning? Tifa is a Cloud’s light, so she can save him. It is a miracle that Tifa appeared here. If they didn't meet here, I think he was dead. Hollow lyrics are definitely Cloud's feelings for Tifa.

[@YoudonGettit]

@@noctncloti4411 It's a valid interpretation anyway. I personaly think it's more about Aerith because of a few parts of the song but tbh it could even be about something else.

[@chuannguyenvuanhSG92]

@@YoudonGettit I don't care about the song is adressed to who. But to make it clear, Cloud just meets Aerith two times and Aerith too, they even not in Golden Sauce's location yet. So we can't tell about them relationship too soon. Square Enix also never announced about the real couple of FF7. But with me after watched the FF7 Remake, i can tell you they're enforcing to Cloud and Tifa than Aerith, Aerith in the remake too smart - knowledges, like she knew the future or something like that we can't explains it yet. I'm not talking about the Hallow song, just a song for the credit, it's even adressed to Zack maybe, who know right?

[@franzmikolan4109]

Oh yeah this is were Zack dies and Tifa found her 7 years ago. So it's just the tip of the iceberg of the FF7 Remake was. I hope i could not take too long for the continuation of it.

[@Mungusdofu]

Is it just me or the Dog is guarding Cloud?

[@HashBandicoot356]

Could tell how vulnerable he is. Dogs are good that way, sometimes.

[@hraberuka2847]

❤️ Tifa ❤️

[@yuna361]

I really forgot this scene!

[@Schematist]

Who is here after the remake?

[@ThePresentation010]

Remake is decent. The but new fans dont know or understand the depth of ff7. They have to play the original.

[@PhantomkevX]

@@ThePresentation010 new fans are missing out if they dont play the original since the remake is literally a damn sequel/requel

[@_adrick_]

@@ThePresentation010 I haven't bought the remake so I bought the og

[@zereon]

@@PhantomkevX it's a reimagining, and a timeline of its own where you hope someone doesn't get on the wrong end pf seph's sword. lel

[@SJ-nx3rs]

@@ThePresentation010 lol dumb purist nonsense.

[@nars1288]

I don’t know why Cloud shrugging in OG makes me chuckle everytime. Like at 1:21 he’s like I said what I said

[@linh182]

woaahh this explains a lot

[@ajtallent5921]

I wonder how long this was after crisis core. If cloud was injured it must have only been a short while afterward

[@DarkMuu666]

Zack died in September, FF7 started in December...So, some time in between then, if I remember right.

[@unskillfullymasterful]

AJ Tallent most likely still a little out of it due to mako poisoning

[@ghostaskrens7012]

Idk. I think Cloud was 19 when Zack died, and 21, when FF7 starts. I think it would take more than a month to develop Dissociative Personality Disorder.

[@ldking5132]

@@ghostaskrens7012 End of Crisis core, Cloud is heading to midgar and this video is him passing out from exhaustion and still being sick from mako poisoning. The scene in crisis core with him on the train is the begining scene in FF7.

[@yagokain4189]

final fantasy 7 wiki page says that crisis core ends in year 0007 late september and tifa finds cloud in early october, and the bombing mission starts in december, so yeah the correct answer is that this was around 1-2 weeks after crisis core, cloud was 21 in the end of crisis core (since he has his birthday in august)

[@lounyx2902]

I can't believe all the trauma they put on Cloud shoulders

[@lolololol7573]

No wonder the guy went into a catatonic state. What a mess. And no wonder he'd go right back in when he thought he lost Tifa again (when Barret slaps him in the Remake).

[@sy2pie]

The manipulating power of Jenova

[@fightfury785]

I'm want to see this scene in remake

[@dorisrodriguez3762]

There is love

[@philbecker4676]

Oh that was a FLASHBACK. I always thought as a kid they were having some sort of time travel psychic meeting thing, oops.

[@vin402]

I really don't remember seeing this part in the game at all

[@CaptainCJ97]

goddamn

[@AndrewUchiha4747]

So this is what happened after Crisis Core

[@Tashwampa]

I wonder if Cloud had sat there long enough he might've just completely felt into delusiin and started calling himself Zack. Its like Tifa calling his name woke him up just enough to have the right name, but not the rest

[@DisFantasy]

You're way off. Cloud isn't deluded. He's possessed by a mind-reading devil. It's the Reunion. He's trying to reach Jenova. That's why he's at the train station.

[@richardhenckel9406]

Did cloud go back into that state after seeing zack die?

[@Abs0lut3Z3r0SZ]

So Cloud made his way to Midgar after Crisis core. How long is he just wandering Midgar and then Tifa finds him. and how long after that does FF7 begin?

[@thegame5687]

Zack dies in September Tifa finds cloud in October FF7 starts in December

[@carlycrays2831]

According to the official timeline, Cloud was basically wandering towards Midgar for a week. After Tifa found him, there's an approximate two month span where we just don't know what happened. Most likely, he was spending it recovering. Notice how in earlier demos of the FF7 Remake's openeing scene, Cloud is a lot more pale and skinny. This is a hint that Cloud is still sort of sick.

[@carlycrays2831]

@Águila701 who else would?

[@andrew_oid]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@BenoitAdam]

CC Ending = Yeah I'm on a trainnnn yipeee !! FF7 = Uuuhhgghhh Arrhhh, where am I ?

[@theweebnoob7999]

thats how PTSD works. Sometime you feel normal, but in an instant youll feel unstable

[@iam4026]

That CC ending takes place AFTER this scene, when Cloud got recruited into Avalanche. Even the original skipped this part and went on with the train scene first

[@shiroutheherotraceon3313]

0:32 Cloud's Jenova cells reads Tifa's memories, which later leads to the Cloud Persona we play as for most of the game.

[@DisFantasy]

Yeah. Tifa's fantasy about Cloud that she'd built up in her mind after years of loneliness. She wanted him to be a hero for her, and that's what Jenova gave her.

[@MikeyDLuffy]

when do you get this cutscene in the original?

[@rommix0]

and that's how Cloud became a mercenary.

[@carlycrays2831]

Brain damage!

[@devilmok]

took a P(ermanent) H(ead) D(amage) to be merc

[@iam4026]

The irony being that’s exactly what Zack wanted them to be, but after he died, it seemed it won’t be that way. Yet when Cloud was found by Tifa, he was recruited as their mecenary

[@andrewcarlton6196]

I have always thought the 5 year was to long. That would have meant Zack and Cloud were in the ranks at the manor for 5 years which seems a little unlikely. They really should.have went with a short time period like 3 years or less that also would have given more weight behind the 7 ro 5 gap as were as 5 years would mean Cloud would.have been 16 and a 16 year old as a SOILDER as believable.

[@AgentRedgrave]

He was 16 during the Nibelheim incident. He and Zack were in those tanks for four years, and then on the run for a year. He was 21 during Final Fantasy VII

[@andrewcarlton6196]

@@AgentRedgrave yes but that is my point is that it seems less realistic and should have been 2 as that is more believable

[@AgentRedgrave]

@@andrewcarlton6196 How's 2 years in the tank more realistic then 4?

[@andrewcarlton6196]

@@AgentRedgrave because Cloud would be 16 and a 1st class SOILDER which after 2 years seems to soon that at most Cloud would be a 2nd like Zack in Crisis Core. If it had only been 2 to 3 years he would have been 17 or 18 giving home 4 years to become a 1st Class SOLDIER. It is just to me the time period seem so long in some areas and so short in other. Also every character acts mor like they should be 3 to 5 years older.

[@andrewcarlton6196]

@@AgentRedgrave Cloud as a 1st Class SOILDER at 16 is unbelievable. Even Zack at 16 being a 2and Class is unbelievable.

[@xfalsetruth06x]

Tifa says it was really 7 years, but didn't Cloud to Nibelheim with Zack and Sephiroth, he just hadn't revealed himself to Tifa (except after Sephiroth slayed her)...what I'm saying is Cloud is technically right

[@omensoffate]

She never saw his face during nibelheim

[@LARK-ht7kd]

@@omensoffate is that right ??

[@paulsmith9192]

No hug nothing

[@OGDoomGuy]

Where was he going that Tifa convinced him to stay and join avalanche

[@laurajanco2i]

he wasn't ging anywhere in that state. He just woke up from Mako poisoning and Tifa basically rescued him.

[@OGDoomGuy]

@@laurajanco2i thanks 😊

[@rangedfighter2663]

I don't remember the same where do you get it

[@Wymiataczxp]

I've never encountered this scene? When exactly does it take place?

[@isaacfaith9369]

After the Reunion happens and Cloud disappears, halfway through disc 2.

[@roberteriksen6434]

Can someone help me explain where Clouds missing 2 years come from? Tifa says its been 7 years, and Cloud only remembers 5, but I never really understood why? A timeline of events: 2000 - Cloud leaves Nibelheim to become a solider 0002 - Nibelheim incident occurs, and Cloud gets captured - 2 years past 0006 - Zack breaks Cloud free from Hojo's experiments - 4 years past 0007 - Zack Dies, and shortly after Tifa finally meets Cloud - year past It makes sense to me that he would have a gap in his knowledge from the time he was in stasis, but that's not the case since he would then have answered that 2 years has passed rather than 5? We know he misremembers his 2 years service of as an infantry soldier as well due to his shame, and I guess they are implying that the 2 years is referring to this period? However, he DOES remember them, only WRONG as a 1st class solder, so time has still passed for him in this period. Is it something Zack told him that I'm forgetting? Is he remembering only 5 years of Zack's story? Zack is only a solider 1st class for 2 years, and he was in stasis the same 5 years Cloud was anyways?!?

[@funkyfranx]

I thought 'It's been five years' was referring to the Niblheim incident, no? He thinks he spoke with Tifa on that trip, in which case it's been five years since they've seen each other, but seven from her point of view because Cloud hid his face the entire time.

[@roberteriksen6434]

@@funkyfranx Then I overthought it, I understood his missing years was due to him being in stasis. He remembers the years just fine though, just not what happened in those years.

[@TheRaf9999]

Thats 6 months after the death ok zack

[@jaykenneth2086]

Is this the time after zacks death, cloud traveling all the way to midgar by himself then tifa found him uncontious in train terminal?? Is this the scene?

[@BigBoyz33]

Yeah this was after Crisis Core and Before the beginning of FF7. Cloud was still recovering from Mako Poisoning and suffering from Zacks death. Poor guy

[@jaykenneth2086]

@@BigBoyz33 thank you i just newbie in the series

[@BigBoyz33]

@@jaykenneth2086 hope you enjoy the series man !! Have fun

[@marbarosi]

Cloud is 21 at the start of the game. That means... she said 7 years since niblheim. Soo....he was 14? he was a 14 year old soldier boy? that make sense?

[@Zero-fx8pc]

Look at the size of his sword, I don’t think they care about what makes sense xD

[@YoRBG]

Actually 5 years since he saw her. She never knew Cloud was with Zack when him and Sephiroth visited Nibleham. He said his name was Ramirez and kept his mask on. He left when he was 14 and returned at 16. He didn't make it into soilder. He was just a regular troop.

[@swpzss0168]

Pushing Aerith was an SE ploy to get players emotions worked up so there'd be a mass reaction to her death. Always thought Tifa was the "truer" one of the two. Aerith's spunk+aggressive flirting was more of a negative than a positive. But then again, maybe younger people would have preferred spunk and that forcefulness. Personally think rushed relationships end terribly.

[@swpzss0168]

@@cesarcampos8746 Agreed, in a way could almost be viewed as bullying. Teasing is fine if it goes both ways... Not so much when it's purely one-sided.

[@swpzss0168]

@@cesarcampos8746 can't control how your body decides to develop but can control your personality. The cross dress part always annoyed me, you're a super soldier, would personally have cut my way in, gotten to her, extracted what answers were necessary from Corneo, gotten out. This would have been a cake walk. But yeah, Aerith's utter glee at seeing his discomfort and even then deciding "let's poke more 'fun'" was pretty annoying. Tifa backed off immediately.

[@philgamer5280]

@@swpzss0168 Aerith:pooh so pretty!! Tifa: Wait! Cloud is that you??? Cloud: Yes. Nailed it. Moving on now.

[@ekawiyani1089]

@@cesarcampos8746 Well, I found some annoying Aerith's characters, I didn't want to hate her but there were some annoying traits, she was older but very childish, acting like a toddler in a playgroup .. (sorry for Aerith Fans if my words are harsh and offensive to you)

[@juminsalim4146]

Eka Wiyani you are so wrong about Aerith, she is so mature and kind to everybody who ever know her in the game. Noticed how every kids in sector 5 loves her. How every one literally look happy talking about or to her. She literally spent half her lives in sector 5 trying to help everybody everyday. She only act childish when she is with Cloud because it is one of a natural reaction when a girl is in love with someone. And Cloud never have problem with that as he actually loves her back, so what is the problem?

[@erefen]

Going far away = Reunion?

[@SHIkun9000]

well, kind of. she means he gets lost in thoughts and becomes unresponsive, which kind of is because Sephiroth is affecting him.

[@marka.arcenas5211]

Is this after the end of the game !after the last boss has been defeated please respond I'm replaying the game again I never got far when I played this back in 1997

[@ibonkedsomeone3834]

Someone said it was when cloud gives sephiroth the black materia

[@ibonkedsomeone3834]

Someone said it was when cloud gives sephiroth the black materia

[@laurajanco2i]

disc 2

[@bennysusanto5524]

How come the graphic is so much better than the PS1 version ?

[@carlycrays2831]

It's been remastered several times. The graphics are better in the remaster.

[@juminsalim4146]

Buy the digital copy in psn you can play it in ps3, much better there.

[@damienkun8786]

@@juminsalim4146 you can play it on the ps4/5 ...

[@juminsalim4146]

@@damienkun8786 even better m8

[@damienkun8786]

@@juminsalim4146 yessir

[@Taysiide]

But in CC, didn’t Aerith send Zack a letter saying they haven’t spoken in like 4-5 years? He died a short while after that, and I figure thats when FF7 starts🤔 If thats true, why does she say 7 years?

[@swpzss0168]

Left 7 years ago, failed to join soldier, became a grunt for 1-2 years. Nibelheim happened and he got chucked into Hojo's nutjob experiment for 4-5 years. Zack broke them out, stopped Genesis, etc died in sight if Midgar after an up to a year journey. Adds up to 7

[@FungusUSMC]

Neko Neezy spoilers ahead if you haven’t played the original. Cloud hid his face and never actually spoke to Tifa during the Nibelheim incident 5 years prior, by there time Cloud rescues her (and we realize he was a grunt, not a SOLDIER), Tifa was already unconscious. The last time Tifa remembered seeing him was before he left the village 7 years prior.

[@swpzss0168]

@@FungusUSMC in the OG flashback he removed his helmet. In last order he also removed his helmet. She might have been delirious from blood loss though.

[@FungusUSMC]

Swpz Ss01 Roger that, I meant to write by the time he revealed his face to us, the audience, Tifa was already unconscious. Thanks for the correction!

[@Taysiide]

yakuzamonkey yea I played the OG. You guys are right tho idk how I missed those other two years when he was a grunt lol

[@leostenbuck4194]

Cloud: *says a lot of things that make no sense* Tifa: dude what in the * are you talking about? *Roll credits*

[@AndrewUchiha4747]

Final Fantasy in a nutshell

[@Greenaura101]

This plot twist is better than yu yevon plot twist of ffx

[@thedancingdragon6401]

Correct me if I’m wrong but this is right after Zack’s death right?

[@kainhighwind2]

Yeah. Zack died, Cloud got the buster sword and dragged himself to Midgar

[@thedancingdragon6401]

@@kainhighwind2 thanks

[@a-dashof-pepper4710]

Cloud? Could you do me a solid?

[@micmup6890]

How do you activate this scene?

[@iffy7874]

Mic mup Beginning of disc 2, Tifa will have a flashback to this moment and this scene will occur.

[@mikeduff3431]

its part of the actual story, you cant miss it. Its in disc 2 when tifa and cloud fall into the mako stream

[@ErenYeager-rj8ck]

Why didn’t they show this in remake ???

[@brandon_nope]

When does this take place?

[@ErenYeager-rj8ck]

@@brandon_nope beginning

[@SHIkun9000]

@@ErenYeager-rj8ck this flashback happens about 50 hours of gameplay into the game

[@mrdarkstar3756]

This is a very important reveal for later, its shows the player something is wrong with Cloud that Tifa has known about from the start.

[@ErenYeager-rj8ck]

@@mrdarkstar3756 it’s a plot twist ? But we might not get it cause the remake story is changing

[@Vagabond-92]

They better do it well in the remake and not just putting cloud touching his head doing emo face with green mako effect..

[@invisibleseeker]

Is this scene going to be in rebirth or the 3rd game?

[@LARK-ht7kd]

@@invisibleseeker That's what am wondering

[@trh3xa174]

@@invisibleseeker 3rd game. Rebirth only covers until the end of Disc 1 which is where Aerith happens. We don't get to see Cloud's real past until Disc 2.

[@lucssantos1]

Why seven years instead o five?

[@lukedodson3441]

Did you play the original?

[@lukedodson3441]

@Arianna Garufi cheers I didn't want to have to write itn

[@Chromwel-A]

Where is this from? Disc 1? 2? 3?

[@elviraXV]

Disc 3, after Northern Crater

[@Chromwel-A]

@@elviraXV thank you

[@theeyetriangle]

which chapter is this again

[@gronndar]

After Northern Crater

[@laxmanrawat748]

So this will be in part 3?

[@KuraodoSutoraifu]

Yup. Part 3 is going to show us the consequences of making promises you can’t keep.

[@user-jw9jf2bz7v]

@@KuraodoSutoraifuwhat

[@slayerr4365]

I bet this whole storyline with tifa and cloud in the wheelchair and all wont even get put in the remake after they already murdered the story in midgar alone. Seeming they are most likely not going to kill of aerith I doubt the tifa cloud romance will be as true as the original

[@carlycrays2831]

I think it will. They will likely end Part 2 on a cliffhanger and part 3 will involve them looking for Cloud.

[@daniellaskowski9719]

Its too soon to tell that kind of things. While Im not a fan of remake ending, it does make you look forward to how in the end it will play out. (Things you mentioned might still happen, one way or another)

[@guts-141]

It's still an important scene since it happened in the past and not the unknown journey forward

[@carlycrays2831]

@@justafan2745 The original is essentially a dating sim.

[@Zero-fx8pc]

I doubt they will just make Aerith the canon love insterest and force her to players....the game has options just like the og and i think they will go that way in the sequels, depending on choices maybe Aerith will die o survive but they are not gonna let her live and take Tifa place it’s just not going to happen and if it does happen I doubt they won’t give the people the option to have Tifa in the scene just like the original. They are going to do different timelines with this game. I know Nomura can screw up sometimes but he won’t screw up THAT bad.

[@mikeduff3431]

actually this whole scene is a little confusing, its not that your remembering cloud or that cloud was actually their. HOJO tells tifa that she doesnt actually remember cloud, some reaction in coming in contact with cloud made her think she had a life with cloud, this whole scene could be taken 2 ways. as truth... or as Tifa and Cloud realizing the fake memories that hojos project on cloud had made tifa think she remembers. You gotta realize one thing and this is full truth.... Hojo doesnt lie, its not logical too him.

[@carlycrays2831]

But Hojo barely even remembered Cloud in the original. And he and Sephiroth were both basically fucking with Cloud and Tifa because they were mad that Cloud killed Sephiroth.

[@carlycrays2831]

@@justafan2745 No, according to the official timeline, the bombing mission isn't for two months.

[@mikeduff3431]

@@justafan2745 its actually not just befor the bombing mission, this whole part played out during the memories cloud and tifa might and might not of had together

[@haridojamaru829]

Will we ever get remake of the real final Fantasy 7 and not some multi timeline universe thing that has nothing to do with final fantasy 7 at this point I don’t know who to blame Square Enix or nomura one of them killing the very the thing that made this game way more special than any game out there

[@oiuik]

They've already done the Remake, you just have to pay attention.

[@raven772]

after the enix merger square has never been the same. Its sad but we will never get the great games we deserve like Chrono Break or Valkryie Profile Hrist. It truly is the worse timeline.

[@k4yser]

I never understood people who want Tifa for cloud. She is like a real good friend, so caring, almost like a mother, but I always preferred Aerith. Especially with her tragic end, a love which never could be realized to its potential, seems better than the childhood friend. In the end, both are great. I just fell for Aerith.. Something about her..

[@chuannguyenvuanhSG92]

If you ever played the Original, you'll see there is no lines or scenes about Cloud and Aerith falls into the relationship. All they got is a pure friend of mine each other, Cloud cried because he and team witnessed Aerith's death in brutal way. No one can stand with that moment, even a stoicism's guy like Cloud.

[@k4yser]

@@chuannguyenvuanhSG92 I got the original as a Christmas present back in 97, so yea I got plenty of experience. I still don't agree with you on that one. Maybe it's personal bias and therefore I see more than there is, but even in the remake aerith acknowledged the love dynamic with her line"don't fall in love with me". But it was followed by an "it isn't real", so yea.. it looks like you may very well be right, but if tifa and cloud would ever in any way fall for each other in the remake, I would be let down. Maybe keeping it ambiguous is the way to go, so people like you and me can talk about it:)

[@chuannguyenvuanhSG92]

@@k4yser Talking about Cloud and Tifa. So the Under Highwind scene is clearly for their relationship. Not try to shipping who with who cause i like FF7 by the story itself. You also can read information about that scene were described by them.

[@etu5914]

well she meets her first love in the lifestream, so...

[@k4yser]

@@etu5914 So what.. ? I don't even know what my first love looks like today.

[@fanflame9514]

so here's where ZACK LEFT HIM, AND WENT TO AERITHY HOUSE IN REMAKE HAHA SPOILER

[@EagleEyes500]

Its not a spoiler if it isnt true though

[@TheKira708]

EagleEyes500 I know right lol what an idiot

[@carlycrays2831]

We don't joke about that.

[@DisFantasy]

Back when Tifa wasn't a feminist caricature.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Are you insane

[@DisFantasy]

@@MrInuhanyou123 You know why Tifa took up martial arts?

[@TifaLosthart]

best couple

[@moverdome]

big facts