Tifa Repairs Cloud's Mind FFVII Original Game

Tifa helps Cloud piece together his true self when they both fall into the lifestream following an earthquake in the FFVII original game. Many of the contradictions in Cloud's back story are explained.
By the way... we're getting a REMAKE!

[@blaziken3236]

Everyone talking about tifa’s unyielding support but here you also see how cloud has loved tifa since his childhood. every deeply rooted feeling and memory cloud has from his past literally revolves around tifa. She was the reason he began his hero’s journey.

[@hraberuka2847]

True Love ❤️

[@AArdW01f]

I've made this point in many places - all calls to action in Clouds hero's journey are facilitated by Tifa Lockhart. She is his inspiration to leave home and join SOLDIER. She finds him on the sector 7 platform and gets him involved in avalanche. She saves him from the lifestream so he can save the world. She sees through Cloud's facade to the selfless hero underneath from the moment he follows her onto that bridge when they are kids on. The course of the game only reinforces her feelings as he becomes the hero she knows he really is.

[@xzvmakiz5171]

AArdW01f God tifa is just such a great character!!she never gave up on cloud, when Tifa was little she wanted Cloud to become her hero but it turned out to be the other way around, Tifa became his hero✨the way their love develops through the game is the defenition of a “slow burn”.

[@xzvmakiz5171]

ierdnA adrecaL i think it’s due to personal preference and also denying facts stated by developers/Ultimanias and twisting the meaning of said statement/facts. I always saw the Clerith ship as the “fantasy” and saw the Cloti ship as the “reality” and recently a lot of people have been agreeing to that.

[@MarraLo0390]

@@xzvmakiz5171 yes, in the OG, Aerith represents fantasy and Tifa represents reality. In the first part of the game, Cloud is not himself. He believes that he was in Soldier First Class, strong, confident and the hero who save the damsel. Aerith is included in this fantasy because she let him play the hero part. Cloud also have a 16 y/o mind & heart even his 21 y/o. Boys like this state of mind is easily to fall in love or attracted. Then Aerith dies this represents that Cloud don't need this kind of fantasy but to face his reality which is Tifa( to face Tifa for what really happened 5 years ago. He didnt made in Soldier and his a shame for himself). Tifa known Cloud since childhood. Even they're not that close but after the promise they attraction to each other go strong. Tifa never give up on Cloud. She always helps him, protect him and support him. Tifa accepts Cloud for who he is, in his worst & best.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

Want to know what "love" is? Just watch this scene. Tifa stayed with Cloud day and night when he was on the verge of being broken, then helped piece him back together when he really was broken, even at the risk of sacrificing herself. If this isn't the ultimate example of love, then love doesn't exist.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Tifa loves Cloud...and Cloud in turn loves Tifa. Its so obvious!

[@ekawiyani1089]

Yes, I agree with your opinion .. Hopefully in this remake, this scene is made more touching the feelings of players, showing a deep bond and love between Cloud and Tifa. so that Clerith has no more reason to brag or bullshit ..

[@MrInuhanyou123]

@@ekawiyani1089 i mean thats how fandoms work...cloti even before the remake was pretty definitive but the war has continued for 20 years. Even if they were made even more obvious it would not be any different to the fandom wars

[@ekawiyani1089]

@@MrInuhanyou123 yeah, liking a character is fine, or liking any pair of ships is fine, but I think if it is too much it will bring negative impacts

[@raptor1785]

@@ekawiyani1089 Speaking of braging. I met this really rude and obnoxious Clerith fan that downplayed Cloud and Tifa as "Brother and sister" relation. I found how he/she behaved and said BS theories and insulting other users so rude i had to use the Will Smith "im sorry I am alergic to bullshit" and then had the balls to call me stupid while his shouting nonsense, insulting others and completely denying some cons of Cloud and Aerith? i feel as of late some people are super salty. How am i supposed to belief Cloud and Tifa are brother and sister after having a tender moment like this? Like, when or when do siblings ever talk and communicate like this? Seriously, Tifa is way into Cloud, she is just not so open about it.

[@tqnguy88]

I hope they nail this scene in the remake series. This is the most important part of this story. Cloud's mind becomes...Less cloudy

[@demonking86420]

Holy crap, Clouds mindscape being literally clouded (it's gonna hamper the graphics rendering but I believe the devs can make it happen) that's a good idea

[@michaelcarnevale103]

They will probably just surround everything with ghosts.

[@cjhaedaten8711]

@@michaelcarnevale103 that is, if aerith lives... 😂😂😆

[@AArdW01f]

This shit is gonna be so intense in remake. They are really nailing the relationship between cloud and Tifa

[@Azureght]

Yea about that...

[@Olliebenji]

"That means he ain't no different from before!" Barrett words are simple but carry a great wisdom. We are all masters of our own illusionary world, we create so much problems to ourselves and we can understand it and fight hard to acquire the awareness necessary to see the illusion, only to discover that we "were no different". We are always the same.

[@justahuman9273]

dude... this is powerful. and yes, i create an illusionary world with problems created by myself on a daily basis. so i know what you are talking about.... it's also why ff7 is so dear to my heart now. it's unbelievable, but i actually only recently got into it. i missed out on a lot back then, never actually playing this game! crazy, but nowadays, i think so much about the depth of this story and the characters, specifically cloud, because i relate to him so much, even when i never faced such trauma, i can just identify with his character in itself. we all need healing... God bless you!!

[@soranraina4391]

the only way Tifa found out about Cloud's love for her was to dive into his mental state. the reason he wanted to join SOLDIER the reason he wanted to be noticed why Cloud wants to be a hero it was all for her in the end.

[@athikbanget]

This plot point is exactly why I love FF7's story

[@brianu2229]

31:36 This is probably my favorite moment in the game. Cloud's mental projections rise as one, showing he's finally whole again. He's made peace with his past and present, and is ready for his future: kicking Sephiroth square in the pockets.

[@richardshiflett5181]

And accepting that he always was worthy for Tifa.

[@justahuman9273]

i feel like he didn't make peace yet at this time. only after advent children, he truly forgave himself i think.

[@caesarhiro3630]

@@justahuman9273 yes, I think so too. His face really change after AC event, that he has release all his burden.

[@collinbtw]

The background in the lifestream looks like the rift that you can see in the sky in Rebirth

[@dr.edwardrichtofen365]

The theory going around is that Sephirtoth’s “blessing” that he gave to Cloud is the ability to perceive multiple realities, which explains why Cloud sees the rift but no one else can. That, our Cloud’s mental health is supremely fucked. Far worse than the OG

[@blnkblnk9985]

This is why i always increase the relationship score between cloud and tifa.

[@xzvmakiz5171]

Tifa talking to Leslie then glancing at cloud: “We’ll meet again. It’s a symbol of reunion” Cloud to Tifa in the lifestream after Tifa repairs his mind: “ Yeah...Tifa... We finally meet again...” the foreshadowing in FF7R is great. I can’t wait for the lifestream sequence!!!!

[@hraberuka2847]

Can't wait too :)

[@hraberuka2847]

@@xzvmakiz5171 when you see how beautiful they made a lot of their scenes in the first part of the Remake then i think future parts with their moments like the Highwing scene will be amazing :)

[@gibbs615]

I can't wait to see this part in REMAKE MODE too! lol

[@LordMalice6d9]

@@hraberuka2847 What even makes you think this scene will even be recreated in the next "remake" installment When the truth about Cloud has already been spoiled to death, even to knew FF7 players?

[@hagoromootsutski9058]

@@hraberuka2847 I hope that the remake focuses a bit more on Cloud and Tifa's relationship from a romantic angle when appropriate. Because if you were to pick two people that are THE embodiment of the word "soulmates", it's probably Cloud and Tifa.

[@DaFro3713]

20:28 when I played this game for the first time last year, it's at that moment that my heart sank and made me see why many people hold this game close to them. It was one of those games that had managed to elicit emotion out of me on the first time. I'm looking forward to this scene in the remake

[@raquelborn]

Have your tissues close by!

[@fbistatmajor5918]

how does anyone see this and go "yeah clerith is canon"

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Didnt make it past the first disc maybe 😂

[@fbistatmajor5918]

@@MrInuhanyou123 definitely not lol

[@Wolf-Raven]

They just don't want to progress the game story 😂

[@waynestrange]

Seriously

[@LordZachael]

Great video my friend! Tifa is a strong and unique character who is integral to Cloud and the story of FF 7. She is brave, motherly, encouraging to her friends, and willing to risk everything for them. Cloud and Tifa aka the CloTi ship is the fulfillment of a promise. That Cloud would always be there if Tifa was ever in trouble. That her Hero would come to her rescue! This couple is Canon as made evident by the later events of Final Fantasy VII. And made even clearer by the events of Advent Children. Before Advent Children Barret officially entrusted Tifa and Cloud to raise Marlene, who was the orphan girl he rescued and looked after until he found her a proper home. In Advent Children the Strife family (Cloud, Tifa, Denzel, and Marlene) were living together but when Cloud was infected with the Geostigma, he left thinking he was going to die. Desperately seeking a cure for all others infected, including himself. Cloud pushed everyone away to in his eyes, cause everyone less pain. Once cured of the Stigma however he goes back to living with Tifa, and raising their adopted children Denzel and Marlene together. Even later by the events of Dirge of Cerberus Cloud and Tifa are still living together. CloTi is canon! Cloud always had feelings for Tifa and they were longtime childhood friends together. The local boys always followed Tifa around everywhere but Tifa always liked Cloud. When he was leaving he boldly stated to her he was going to join SOLDIER. He did this as a way to make her notice him more. Cloud was trying to impress Tifa, his childhood love. She then made him promise to be her Hero. To come to her rescue if she was ever in trouble. And Cloud did fulfill his promise to her when he showed up during the Nibelheim incident. He also continued this promise by helping Tifa whenever he got the chance throughout the story of FF7. From joining Avalanche because Tifa was fighting Shinra, to rescuing her in Don Corneo's mansion while she was on a spy mission to learn what the Don knew about Shinra's plans, but luckily Cloud saved her from having to persuade the information out of him. Years later when Cloud has his mental breakdown, it was Tifa who tirelessly cared for him. Her love for him is endless. Together Cloud and Tifa end up traveling through Cloud's memories to piece together Cloud's true past. It was Tifa who helped Cloud come to terms with his identity, see through the lies Sephiroth told him, and regain his hope for the future. And she helped him get his sanity back too! Without Tifa's help, Cloud would never have fixed his broken mind, and so lead the party to stop Sephiroth. Eventually Sephiroth is summoning Meteor with the Black Materia. Cloud suggests their group disbands and has everyone decide for themselves what they wish to do. That night Cloud and Tifa spend time alone together under the Highwind. Cloud smiles and states he knows he can do anything, because he has Tifa by his side! They share a close romantic conversation, and then spend the night under the stars together. It's very clear that they professed their love to each other, and slept together that night under the Highwind. From this point on they lived together as lovers. Cloud and Tifa are a canon couple of the Final Fantasy 7 universe just like Zack and Aerith. NOTE: To anyone who doubts whether CloTi is canon... The night under the Highwind happens regardless of who the player chooses to date. Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus prove Cloud and Tifa are a couple. The FF 7 Ultimania states CloTi is canon. This article pulls examples from the game and the FF 7 Ultimania showing all the canon evidence and official statements proving Cloud and Tifa are canon. worldofcloti.tumblr.com/post/45405555997/cloud-and-tifas-relationship-as-told-by-official

[@____ala5443]

Man you REALLY like this couple Me too 👍👍👍👍👍

[@caesarhiro3630]

Amazing, dude. 👍

[@xzvmakiz5171]

Aaron9 gtfo.

[@natsukiarima3189]

@Aaron9 you clerith extremist. Lol

[@JustinStrife]

@Aaron9 How one is able to convince themselves that the facts aren't the facts, is beyond me.

[@Pscj95]

27:22 when the music kicks in, when all the pieces join together, truly one of the defining moments in this masterpiece!

[@magnafirionel5657]

Imagine how the remake of the masterpiece like this would be

[@X1erra]

We did experience this whole situation in Crisis Core, you know. xD But yeah, I know you're referring to the FF7 remake, I hope they put a lot of thoughts into this one :)

[@Jonbo117]

Hell yeah my favorite part as well.

[@redacted8846]

Agreed

[@cooppp]

28:59 is my favorite part. I can just imagine them closing up to Cloud and then panning out with him screaming as he see's that his former hero turned his village into a living hell

[@trizzwiz9368]

Why I love Tifa and why she is so very important to this story. I understand the role Aerith plays, but Tifa's connection goes way deeper than that. She knows the truth and experienced it firsthand. Cloud is someone she wanted to protect, while also trying to figure out her own emotions. Such a great character and this gave her some much needed character development.

[@awtodor]

I think for Rebirth II, Aerith will play role in how they get to this moment. She's searching for the real Cloud and can't find him. That's because Tifa is the only one who can find him.

[@jinnimoo]

The potential for this sequence to be the most visually stunning scene of ff7 remake trilogy is insane 😭

[@nkkimariee]

For FF7 Remake Part 3, I need them to keep this EXACTLY the way it is + a little more emotion & romantic gestures to portray how deep this is, but in general I need them to not try to ppl please and being back Aer bc it really IS a crucial part to the story of her being in the lifestream & becoming “Mommy” as we see in AC. She is the one who brings the holy water to save the world and ppl from the geostigma and ultimately helps the team as with her Cetra powers. It plays a crucial role in Cloud’s concious & him feeling guilty for all the friends he “couldn’t protect” & beating up himself for it too. I hope they don’t rush it too much, because this clip alone is already about 30 minutes to the game. Tifa will def probably be the playable character in this scene tho!

[@fadlanfadilah1171]

You asked to keep this exactly as it is but then also ask to add more romantic gesture, you contradict yourself in one single breath. Also this scene is about Cloud accepting himself, this is not a "romantic" cloti moment, this scene is misinterpreted so many times by cloti it lost it true meaning.

[@nkkimariee]

@@fadlanfadilah1171never said it was a 100% cloti moment, as I explained above on how it plays a crucial role in his guilt and concious…but you also misinterpreted my comment saying I contradicted myself when what I meant is that they better keep the scene as the way it is and not shorten things, leaving crucial moments out. Then I said adding the romantic gesture would (which would be up to Nojima) because I feel like this is a step forward in their relationship, right after what had happened in Rebirth.

[@jt5660]

​@@fadlanfadilah1171 reading comprehension of a kindergartener

[@SunshowerHeathcliffBeliever]

6:53 *”Why are we still here, just to suffer?!?”*

[@justahuman9273]

xD damn, this will never get old!

[@anemokinesis]

Yes.

[@nkkimariee]

Coming here right after FF7: Rebirth, but mannn if Cloud doesn’t wife her up after all of this then I will!

[@awtodor]

I really hope we get a happy cloud x Tifa finale as it should be

[@goatherds]

Discovering he wasn’t just one of Sephiroth’s black cloak reunion flunkies and his SOLDIER first class story was a coping mechanism for loss of a friend, we were all so collectively proud of Cloud for finding his true self. Before the long sequence of events leading to memory loss, he was someone with his own motivations, accomplishments, and attachment to people and places. Even if he was ashamed to admit he didn’t make the cut when he returned to Nibelheim, he was still somebody that was known and remembered. Being the “grunt” who bested Sephiroth right under everyone’s nose, with no one else to witness the feat should always stay with him - not because of any destined rivalry, but for the fact he was impassioned by this terror on his hometown and keeping his word to Tifa. Remember what’s most important here is that he pulled through his mental anguish with the force of Tifa’s determination.

[@thetrashman5258]

No wonder everytime I read Tifa's Dialouges I hear her remake voice saying the same word

[@mimuxx2764]

Same lmao

[@lolstalgic9602]

Not me. I hear her abridged voice actor.

[@marsirenas]

"People have so many things pen up inside of themself. And they can forget many things." -Tifa This is my favorite part of FF7 and all FF series. I love it. It is so lovely. Tifa honestly taking care of ☁ Cloud. ❤ She was a natural loving therapist to him and did not gave up on Cloud like others did. Just the best.

[@user-tq3zr9wj8i]

She was bullying him, she's in love with him becquse he want to be like sephiroth, unlike aerith she's lived him becouse he's cloud

[@marsirenas]

Tifa did really love Cloud truelly. She never bully him. At first as kids they where not so close. It seem Tifa had not notice him by that time where she had her gang of male admires and had her personal problems. It was mention that Tifa's mother died and she was a kid. So she was not emotionally well. Cloud's perspective as them as kids was that Tifa did not let him in the group but he didn't explain if this means she ignore him or she let the other male admires gang control the group dynamic of not letting him in the group with Tifa.This affected Cloud a lot. But Cloud still work his way to be notice by her by showing his bravery to be with her and his promise to be 💪 stronger and return to protect her. This promise happend because Tifa did accepted Cloud's invitation to go on the well with him and only them. The game don't give information that Tifa was a fan of Sephiroth as a kid. Cloud was the one that hear of Sephiroth and was who admire him and wanted to be like him. Then after the game show Tifa missing and waiting for Cloud to return. She even mention she constantly ask herself how was him and look on the news to constantly to know about it. Thisbdemosttate her felling and compromise to know of Cloud. Later on Tifa recognize him on the street / Train Station on Midgar etc when Cloud was just totally unconscious and is inferred that she took him to her place and was who offer him the mission of Avalanche. Later she loyally follow him and even avoided to argue with him about the events Cloud mention to had happend in cosideration of Cloud well-being. Then she did not gave up on him. Even seeing how ustable, fragile and problematic Cloud was by his mental problem. She really stayed. Is a love that had grow evolve to have all elements of cosume 💘. On the game she show it and the squaresoft staff confirm that there love between Tifa and Cloud (both ways). Same gose with Cloud and Aerith. They did love each other too but it is a difrent love and one that by circumstances they could not be together in life anymore. We all miss lovely Aerith.

[@DatNguyen-hx6rb]

@@user-tq3zr9wj8i are you stupid ?

[@lucyfilia5341]

@@user-tq3zr9wj8i well then u should be glad cloud wanted to join soldier to impress tifa, if not cloud would never have met aerith😐

[@caesarhiro3630]

@@marsirenas don't bother, he/she just one of those worshipper 🤦‍♂️

[@Samsen_]

I hope the remake scene will be just as impactful. Cloti is one of my favorite ships I cannot wait to see what they do for this.

[@USMCHelloKitty]

Cloud never became the hero wanted to be but he was always the hero Tifa needed and to the rest of the world.

[@inferno232]

Love the reason that Sephiroth is so obsessed with Cloud is that a total nobody yeeted his ego-tripping ass into a hole. If he accepts that Cloud is Just A Guy that means Sephiroth isn't some dark messiah God. It's like if the antichrist got run over by a janitor's car. I can't wait to see that scene in the Remake trilogy.

[@Ashitaka1110]

This is gonna be so great in the remake. In like...another two years I guess...*sigh*

[@iceychill7611]

2 years? Man you got some hope this is going to be in part 3 so we're looking at a good 4-8 years. As much as I wanna play the full remake id still rather them take time and craft this up good because could you imagine messing up this scene in the remake? Square be dead

[@isaacfaith9369]

At least 3 years+, they don't even know how to deal with the world map in the remake... which is a warning sign. Also, it depends on whether or not Nojima & Co. even wants it in there. Seems to me they're forcing Cloud & Aerith together by the end of Part 1. So who knows.

[@053chandradanuarta8]

Relax my friend .. hint: they gonna release the next part in 2023

[@Carnage7209]

3 to 4 more years to go!

[@MasterBlaster-ri5ms]

Even longer pal lolol

[@kaiserxblue]

You see? this is why Tifa Lockhart is the canon for Cloud's couple. She came looking for him and stayed with him even though his mind was shattered and fragmented with false memories of him, Sephirot and Zack...she basically had a spiritual journey to fix him. To me that's love, you only go the extra mile for somebody who you really love and if that isn't love then I don't know what is... Besides in the night before the final battle those two have intercourse.

[@lunarhail3559]

Lol only if the affection is high..

[@kaiserxblue]

@@lunarhail3559 yeah I'm aware, but by that time Aerith is dead already so.

[@ekawiyani1089]

Agree... Cloti 4ever.. The first and the last in his heart is only Tifa 💏 💖

[@gibbs615]

Yeah I agree on all that and I'm definitely seeing that in new remake mode now.

[@snowykitten6120]

Wait, they have intercourse for real?

[@elftball1744]

Nomura and Nojima we trust!

[@Fugeta20]

Idk why people dislike tifa. But without her, Cloud wouldn't be here.

[@PepeOPT1]

Yeah, it's weird, I guess others assume that the only thing people care about Tifa is her character design. Now, don't get me wrong, I love Tifa's design as much as the next guy but she is SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT, she is SUCH a big part of Cloud's character, if she hasn't there, Cloud wouldn't be who he is during the game.

[@prime1773]

What's lovely about her is that she cares about other people in such a sister or mother like way... And cares about Cloud more even after she knows what the hell happened. On top of that she's a hand-to-hand combatant with awesome skills in Remake. Seriously, that's awesome!!

[@Fugeta20]

@@PepeOPT1 if you mean her melons, I dont see a big deal of them. Who doesn't like boobs? Not Japan nor me(At least I am honest). Despite that, Cloud has no idea how lucky he is. A brawler, a supporter, hell, even good looking. I'm jealous even though is just a game.

[@PepeOPT1]

@@Fugeta20 Ofc there's nothing wrong with her having a big chest, it's one of the reasons why I love her design. What I'm saying is that people who don't play the game and don't know Tifa's character and relationship with Cloud instantly assume that she's just a "anime girl with big tits" solely based on her design. And yes, I also was EXTREMELY jealous when I was a kid AND EVEN MORE NOW WITH REMAKE.

[@ekawiyani1089]

because they are stupid and also blind, so they don't like Tifa ..

[@ASLTheatre]

This scene is what makes this game stand out for me.

[@SW1TCHBLXDE]

This is my favorite scene in any game ever. So emotional and amazing. I love these two so much

[@GuidodeKortOfficial]

I remember this like it was yesterday... A plot twist where your superhero actually shows his true colors and reveals himself to be rather weak and conflicted within himself. My jaw dropped as a 12 year-old, I couldn't believe it. It was one of the first times I coupled deep disappointment to an equally deep understanding. But let's not fool ourselves here: he did all this for Tifa, because he loves her.

[@hraberuka2847]

This is true love of this story, Tifa and Cloud are soulmates ❤️

[@zhengyau182]

I really hope Square Enix nailed this scene in the next remake. This is such a powerful and memorable scene that represents FF7

[@darkmanure]

@@justafan2745 This is Nomura we're talking about. He's going to add in Sephiroth in the lifestream and ghostes, can't forget the ghosts.

[@chrisprusinowski5287]

@@justafan2745 The whole "whispers ghosts" and the alternate timeline are the worst aspects of the Remake. Changing the theme of the game to "changing fate" makes the game feel like FFXIII and not VII.

[@justafan2745]

@@chrisprusinowski5287 i absolutely agree! I was always invested in the story, and then the plot ghost ruin the immersion....time and time again....and the ending sequence comes out of nowhere without any buildup.

[@linegenrou]

I love how you don't need cinematic cutscenes with dramatic ass j-pop songs to tell a story. look at this, so powerful and shocking (the first time) you see it that it stands above all else FF fancy cutscenes that came up afterwards.

[@tissuebomb5274]

And even surprisingly, it's done with INSANELY low poly models. Good job, Square.

[@LC-id6wx]

I'm so used to these graphics that I don't even care about the remake anymore.

[@defectiveautismo5548]

Yeah when Final Fantasy started embracing cheesy Japanese trends, it took a nose-dive. I'll be honest, I was never a fan of FF7. Still not. But it only goes downhill from here (with FF9 being the exception). The franchise was always best in the hands of Sakaguchi, because for better or worse, he was always wiling to take risks in the name of art. Sometimes it didn't pan out, and he had his fair share of flops, but he was willing to go the distance to get his vision out; and when it worked, you got memorable games that set the trends instead of riding them toward an easy paycheck. Hell, half his best games came when the company was pressed against a wall financially and Sakaguchi just decided to take a leap of faith. Now SE's a megalith that pumps out the most generic, boring, - and safe - shite you could imagine, a far fall from grace from where it was. At this point, I think the franchise just needs to be put to bed. None of the original developers that really made this series are with it anymore and "Final Fantasy" needs to end so newer, better games may be born.

[@frankevans7039]

Yeah it's actually better than movie scenes

[@TJunioR97]

I know you didn’t just diss FFX

[@borg1662]

6:52 Cloud: i m s o f u c k r n -cloud before falling into the mako pool

[@xXBoogiepopXx]

6:52 Cloud: "I think I left the gas on at home."

[@shortstack9895]

Cloud's iconic dead fish eyes

[@allenwjs]

This scene is what cemented FF7 as my favourite Final Fantasy game as well as favourite game as all time, the turning point of the story revealing that the protagonist that we have to known since the beginning wasn't actually who we thought he was, and Cloud coming to terms with the truth is one of the best character development in gaming history which still holds its time till today. The whole revelation of the past in detail, Zack's small appearance as a caring friend to Cloud plus the music makes it even better. I am looking forward to this scene in the remake more than the other scene.

[@oiuik]

Hopefully it all falls in to the right place after what they have done in the ending of the Remake.

[@caesarhiro3630]

@@oiuik yeah... I almost messed up believing that Zack alive, but actually that his past with Zack before arriving at midgar. Though I still don'y understand why Zack bother to come back to midgar to live

[@oiuik]

@@caesarhiro3630 Exactly. This really scratched my head at first after knowing the outcome of Part 1 in the Remake. My theory is, there is the original timeline of FFVII which is the past, the Remake timeline is the present and then the Future timeline. I hope SE would be doing something interesting here since either Zack is alive or we are just seeing an other version of him. I wonder if he would make his promise now to Aerith in the Remake.

[@jt5660]

I swear if the writers of the Remake fumble this scene in part 3 I swear to FUCKING God I will stop being so polite

[@andimari9194]

lol great whiplash reference

[@jt5660]

@@andimari9194 I had watched the movie for the first time around the time I wrote this comment XD Why'd you click Read More? There's no fucking Mars bar down here.

[@graynor67]

They won’t. Nomura lovessss this scene and hamaguchi said it’s his favorite they’re probably gonna put a lot of work into it

[@seiryukanninja]

Spoilers: read at your own risk This needs to happen in the third remake game Cloud may still have the black materia to give it to Sephiroth in that crystal from the original but then Tifa and Avalanche find him, Tifa stays with him expresses she knows something is wrong and then this memory sequence she does to repair his mind and he tells her all that happened to him afterwards from the temple that he saw a vision of Aerith and he truly felt horrible that he couldn’t save her. This could happen on their private moment under the highwind before the conversation and romance happens and perhaps Aeriths materia she gave Cloud might reverse the damage to the worlds. Cloud and Tifa deserve each other they are each other’s light.

[@TonyKanameKuran]

I have a gut feeling that it's gonna happen. 3 to 4 years are gonna be worth the wait and patience.

[@IchigoLazer]

The amount of mental gymnastics you have to do to think Cloud loves Aerith (as a lover) after this scene is insane. He clearly holds favor for Tifa here, she's literally a core part of who he is.

[@back2back379]

Tifa here shows externally just how much Cloud means to her by staying by his side like this, saying she doesn't care about anything else, only Cloud. Cloud on the other hand, shows internally just how much he cares about Tifa, showing that basically his entire life revolved around Tifa. He didn't care about the other kids, only Tifa. He was only concerned about how Tifa thought of him, and merely the THOUGHT of Tifa blaming him for falling off the bridge made him go crazy and get into random fights with everyone and anyone. Just wanting Tifa to think of him and notice him made him make the most important and significant decision of his entire life, the decision to leave Nibelheim to try to join SOLDIER. As stated in the Ultimania, this is how the two revealed and confirmed their MUTUAL feelings for each other.

[@oiuik]

@@back2back379 Wait until the Clerith fans shove us again the Maiden and Dismantled novels which proved the Cloud and Aerith love connection.

[@back2back379]

@@oiuik the only thing anyone can prove and confirm is that Aerith loves Cloud, there's nothing to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Cloud loved Aerith romantically. One can only show that there's possibility based on interpretation, nothing to confirm.

[@raptor1785]

@@oiuik Lately they have been freaking out a lot, like really hard. Especially on Twitter, the Tifa hate increased, found out Nojima even liked some Cloud X Tifa work, and that send many Clerith fans in panic. Guess the FFVII remake was a big shock to them.

[@oiuik]

@@raptor1785 exactly sir! Nomura I believe confirmed that the Remake would show the dynamic of Cloud and Tifa / Zack and Aerith as what was intended for part 2. We still have to wait a couple of years for the next installment.

[@Tdzone33]

Yoooo - cloud should have been 10x prouder of the real story rather than the original story he told. He may have been embarrassed not to make solider, but a regular militant getting stabbed by sephiroth and him single handedly picking up the sword to throwing him off the edge is waaaaaay cooler. He did what Zach (a solider) couldn’t. I know he was affected by the mako poisoning, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if this mission was intentionally designed to be done by each of the best people within their rank.

[@orimu836]

Tifa: I can fix him.

[@eurologic]

I mean, even the comments here have missed the most important fact that Cloud killed Sephiroth. He was able to because he was stronger than Sephiroth but he never let himself believe it. One of only a few of Sephiroths clones infused with jenova cells, he went under Hojos radar and was marked a failed experiment.

[@SyndicateOperative]

Well, cloud wasn't a sephiroth clone - that was just sephiroth/cloud/hojo's misunderstanding due to the jenova cells being present in cloud. The ones with numbered tattoos were the clones with manufactured memories - cloud and zack were just regular people experimented on with mako & jenova cells.

[@Dreamavere]

I thought this scene was incredible! I loved the whole revelation it made me love Cloud even more and made me have huge respect for Tifa, this is why I think Cloud and Tifa are a better couple than Cloud and Aerith. I can't wait to see this in the remake I bet it will be incredible. But I wonder since Cloud and Tifa are canon does anyone else think they'll include a kiss scene at the end of the revelation before they leave the life stream? I think that would blow everyone away!

[@BLEACHno1fanKH]

While Cloud and Tifa are my preferred pairing by a long shot... they are not technically canon..as in a pair neither really is. They just have become a family and couldnt really be happy without each other they certainly have feelings for each other though

[@richardshiflett5181]

Dreamavere tifa loved the true cloud, always. Aerith never met the true cloud.

[@richardshiflett5181]

No1KingdomHearts-AnimeFan they are canon.

[@lordgabriel1120]

Dreamavere Tifa always felt black for me

[@Rhetzelle]

No1KingdomHearts-AnimeFan they are canon

[@livelyoh8816]

Can't WAIT to see this in the remake! They better not fuck it up though, this is such a great and important scene...

[@nonexistentfuture519]

Will it be in the remake!?

[@DIO567]

taytor tott3r no

[@3badthebad]

Not yet, they released Part 1, we still have to wait for part 2

[@livelyoh8816]

@@3badthebad I know. Honestly though, this probs won't even be in part 2 so...

[@Aaron-bq2ht]

@@livelyoh8816 why not?

[@mclohan]

The soundtrack for this game always gets me in the feels. I know it’s outdated and all that but for what they had to work with, it’s phenomenal. Really one of a kind.

[@JoyfulUniter]

Can't wait to find a girl who cares about me as much as tifa does for cloud. Inspiring stuff.

[@KulDeeSak]

You won't.

[@JoyfulUniter]

@@KulDeeSak Yeah I will, I care about other people that way, it's as simple as finding someone else like me.

[@someone-le1rm]

good luck homie

[@breezye8942]

@@KulDeeSak real nice man 😂😂

[@mr.awesome6011]

@@JoyfulUniter You really wont. Unless you've known her since childhood and have a deep connection tied to a promise that is seen through. We can hope for the best but most of us aren't gonna have our "Tifa".

[@loewfii5674]

Looking at this , i already imagine the remake version of this. And it wonderful. I can't wait for this amazing moment between cloud and sephiroth. I mean Tifa.

[@unskillfullymasterful]

i really hope we get to see this in the remake soon.... such a good part of the game.. hmmm hey square, we need to make sure the remake tifa is real. so that means we need to see her bare back side!

[@hpwilliams0]

It’s not just the in-depth videos man! It’s the whole channel. You love the game just as much as we do and that’s why we keep watching you! That said, this is your best video so far and can’t wait for more

[@livelyoh8816]

This scene/part gives me all the feels...

[@ragerawke4818]

And this is why Tifa is the best fictional game waifu, of any game, period. Fight me.

[@kongvang6200]

I wonder how they gonna do this in the remake it probably gonna be different but man I hope they make it as good or even better!!!!!!

[@Jfray252]

Kong Vang You will be disappointed...

[@ereoleon]

they already hinted about the REAL Cloud personality before meeting Aerith at the church, so they will do the same... the events of the original haven't been changed that much even for those who are complaining about it :/.

[@decknamen4948]

@@justafan2745 Actually, the Remake's producer, Yoshinori Kitase, said in an interview that he talked it over with co-director Nomura and they decided that it's important not to stray too far away from familiar places and moments from the OG. He said that henceforth, they won't be changing the story drastically that it ends up feeling like a different story. Even though it's a remake, he reassured fans that FF7 will still be FF7 like fans know it. On the same matter, scriptwriter Kazushige Nojima said that he creates scenarios that follow the path as carved by the authentic stories. Simply, some things and some events will be shown and come to happen a bit differently. The resolutions and end results will be the same. :)

[@decknamen4948]

@@justafan2745 To be honest, I personally think that the whole "change destiny" thing with the different timelines was a bad decision. Alternative realities/timelines are super hard to handle correctly and successfully, as has been proven by other franchises in the past. They introduce too many variables. It's messy business and they shouldn't have tapped into it, in my humble opinion. Having said that, they had the script long before they started development, so these interviews can't be thaaaat misleading, if at all. I'm sure neither Nojima nor Nomura or Kitase want to butcher one of their most successful titles and anger 90% (if not 100%) of their fanbase. After completing a couple of playthroughs of the Remake, I can honestly say that all I care about is seeing a few of my favorite iconic scenes (Lifestream, Highwind, Aerith's death, Holy preventing Meteor) and giving my girl Tifa the happy ending she deserves. XD If they decide to do something as mental/unreasonable/disappointing/nonsensical as killing Tifa...well, goodbye FFVII and SE. It was nice knowing you. I'm not giving money to a company that openly disrespects and does the game that marked my childhood such a gross disservice. :P

[@decknamen4948]

@@justafan2745 I think they just tried too hard to alter the game just enough so that it's still the same story but with new touches here and there to evoke new feeling. I bet they'll have stupid ideas in the future and - I hope I'm wrong - they will end up messing the alternate timelines thing. Or we could even be reading too much into it and the Whispers/Arbiter of Fate won't have the impact we think they'll have. If they are smart, they won't do anything to Tifa and even if they do decide to play us and "kill her off", they will just find a way to bring her back. Her fanbase is so massive, it would alienate a huge chunk of the fans. I don't think any fan in their right mind would approve of such a HUGE change in the story just for shock value. The backlash would be unreal. :P

[@MrSuperTeenGohan]

I know it's meant to be tragic, but Cloud going "Aaa... gurk..." kinda gets me laughing, because in my language agurk means cucumber. So just imagine Cloud going "Cuuu... cumber..." all randomly

[@MMZERO9]

Cloti. This is the way.

[@hraberuka2847]

Cloti forever ❤️

[@BanditOfBandwidth]

Sephiroth: The famous master of his craft that you look up to, but turns out to be an asshole when you meet him. Zack: The guy you look up, that you wish to emulate and tells you you're better than you think you are. Cloud: You, demorilized by being unable to live up to the legends of rolemodels, but would be capable of just as much and more if you have the confidence to go for it.

[@josh_kibishima]

god that noise that starts when cloud hilariously but sadly rolls forward in his wheelchair is unsettling lol

[@catIing]

Lmao can't wait to watch Cloud toss Sephiroth off a bridge via a sword impaled in his own chest in the remake. That's gonna be something.

[@guillaumelandru2326]

I'm currently playing the game for the first time in my life & I'm very surprised by how complete and rich the storyline is. I knew about Aerith before playing, but I didn't know that there would be more moment like this. It's rare to find video games now that put that much effort into making the main protagonist as complexe and twisted, and still being consistent and coherent with the main plotline. Furthermore, the art direction in this scene is incredible.

[@twitchykun]

Cloud: Join the smash roster, Tifa says. It'll be fun, she says.... Tifa: Don't backtalk me or I'll final heaven you again

[@nathanevans1382]

Cloud: I GOT PUNCHED BY A MONKEY WITH A TIE! Tifa: oh...

[@frankbalatbat1804]

For me both women hold Love for Cloud just as Cloud can love both women either as a friend and or Lover. As fluffy as Clerith is or as cute as Cloti is, Don't treat both as love crazy for Cloud, it devalues the characters to selfish lovers with no other purpose beyond that, desire over calling and duty on earth. Aerith did want to stay with Cloud, she was ready to let go of Zack by the time you hit Gold Saucer again to get the key to the temple, but her answering her calling for a higher purpose to defend the planet is far more important than what her heart desires. Doesn't mean she stopped Loving Cloud, neither with Zack. Tifa would of done the same if she were put in Aerith's place. Tifa choose the opposite of what Aerith chose due to the fact the world is going to shit now, what can she do? Cloud is all that matters now for her. If she is to die the moment meteor hits she would rather spend what little time she has with him and face the worst with him while the others attempt to do what they can to avert the crisis the world is in even if its in vain. And even if it is pointless now, she hung on to hope that helping to nurse Cloud back to health he could wake up again to keep fighting, but alas now that hope was hanging by a thread. Till they hit the lifestream, Where Tifa with the aid of Aerith's spirit protecting Tifa's mind from the mako poisoning can finally heal Cloud and bring him back, renew him new strength to hold the sword up again and fight for the planet, be the hero Gaia needed. That shows how much Tifa loves Cloud, she will help him as he would be there to back her up when she is in a pinch even if his love for her waned. However rambling aside, Cloud's feelings are determined by the choices the player makes for him and how they interpert his love life. The Player is Cloud and its all up to your preferences. So in short you can say both ships are the Canon. Edit: as of rebirth and how much I dived into the lore of FF7, my stance is changing more to saying Cloti is definite canon as Zerith is. I like the fact neither Aerith and or Tifa are jealous of each other over Cloud, rather they are more concern about his state of mind, Square did a good job in developing their sisterly bond which is good. Part 3 hope it really puts the ship war nonsense down the bottom of the sea for good.

[@haridojamaru829]

This part reminds me of kingdom hearts dreams drop distance, tifa somewho travels through cloud’s heart , like how riku did the same thing so that they both can restore both sora and cloud , but by doing that they would unravel some hidden truth, also both cloud and sora were technically almost gonna become xehanort and septhorth vessel newer vessel but were saved by the one whom they were the closest with

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Well tifa is clouds light in kh according to nomura and nojima which make sense

[@Robotron2084psn]

Back in 1997 it was here I realized that I'm playing the greatest video game I will ever play.

[@edR_mcd]

I haven't played FFVII, both original and the remake. But Cloud's story ring a bell for me. I've been through traumatic things during my early childhood and it extended until I was 21. Family falling apart, being abused, etc. made my mind go nuts and then I started developing a profound depression in my adolescence days. I couldn't move out of my bed for anything, wishing only to die. After every hardship I've faced to this day, I'm still somewhat alive. But all those traumas left scars on me - I'm too hard on myself, blaming and putting myself at fault for everything that happened in my life. It's sad, but even knowing that most of them wasn't my fault, these thoughts lingers in my head everyday. This story is fantastic and opened up my eyes that I'm most times so harsh with myself and made me remember that being here today alive is something I cannot ignore. I found strength to come back and be alive. It 's still not easy to control what goea inside my head, but seeing stories similiar as mine make me feel a bit more relieved...

[@외로운소녀-s3o]

I’m happy for you and sorry about what you’ve been through good days are coming ❤️🙏🏽

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

So for 5 years Cloud asumed that he Was Zack?

[@scottprice4955]

Not exactly. Cloud was kept unconscious for five years due to the experiments being conducted on him. This also left him with amensia when he was finally freed. Despite that he was almost a vegetable while the effects wore of. While at the same time Zack got them to Midgar, it wasnt until Tifa found him in the slums that the Zack persona took full root and Cloud began assuming that was his true identity.

[@oddedd7755]

nope.. just after his dream crushed, his hometown destroy, his mother killed,being dip in mako for several years, xprmnt on by hojo, his good friend killed in front of his eye and he can't do shit about it.. so,while he struggling to reach midgar few week b4 this game start..his state of mind got a little fuck up and he think he was his friend zack..

[@t-greenrock404]

Which ironically enough also gave him memories of his SOLDIER training. So he fought with the same skill and strength that Zack once did. But it was very clear that "convenience" wasn't exactly worth the mental state, as we can see how fucked up he got from the amnesia. The reveals in this scene is one of the main reasons I still consider Cloud and Tifa to be extremely close, with a history like theirs. It just seems to make more sense than a spontaneous romance with Aerith. But hey, that's just my opinion. The game had choices for a reason, yeah?

[@Jonbo117]

Tyler Green Yeah they wanted us to believe we are Cloud.

[@JFra472449]

During the years Hojo experimented on Cloud and Zack there memories merged because of the mako energy infusions. When Tifa finds him his mind is fragmented and when he sees her it jumbles together. It is kind of insinuated that Cloud has been free for about a month or two before FFVII events start.

[@billykhoabillykhoa7844]

6:15 beat so fire even Cloud started jamming

[@marsjake8]

I know this is a really deep moment but Clouds eyes at 6:54 always kills me O_O

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Imagine this scene in the remake when we finally get to it.

[@richardshiflett5181]

This is another reason why Tifa >>>>> Aerith. Tifa loved Cloud long before Aerith and went to the farthest for him. Her love was always genuine while Aerith only knew and loved the Cloud who acted like her dead ex - Zack.

[@forkymental5154]

I've played the game several times, and I always got the impression that he loved Aeris more. Her personality was able to break through his stiff personality and find a soft side. She was able to bring out a part of him he never knew existed (well that's before the psychological meltdown). Then there was the way he reacted during the death scene. Hell if that happened to my gf I don't think I would let out that much emotion. Then there were his words at the very end of the game "I think I'm beginning to understand........An answer from the planet...........The Promised Land.........I think I can meet her...there". I'm not saying he didn't love Tifa (he obviously did), but if Aeris didn't get impaled then I think he would have chosen her.

[@MarraLo0390]

@Aaron9 Tifa just stay silent because of what she knows. She also want to protect Cloud by watching him and making him join Avalanche. Cloud hide himself to Tifa because of embarassment not joining in soldier and because of mako poison some of memories of Cloud has been mixed up. You can't just blame Tifa or Cloud for what happened because they have different perspective point of view and circumtances at that day.

[@usagimodoki8660]

@Aaron9 Well, she's the Cetra that's her destiny. You can't compare someone with special powers with just a normal human like Tifa. Tifa just didn't say some details because she wasn't sure herself. Did you watch the video? She doubted even her own memories that she was relieved that her memories of her childhood with Cloud were proven real and she's not the cause of Cloud being mentally unstable.

[@akupocoffee]

15:41 "now that you mention it why did you want to join SOLDIER in the first place? I always thought it was a sudden decision" "I was devastated. I wanted to be noticed. I thought if I got stronger someone would notice me." "someone to notice you? who?" "Who? You know who! You!" "me? why!?" "tifa, did you forget about those days?" "Look... I... I'm sorry... But what are you talking about?" "No.. it's alright. you were having a hard time back then. You were so busy with your own things, it's only natural you don't remember me then." "then?" "it's important to me... I hate to say it, but it's a very important memory."

[@ry2950]

26:08 probably my favorite moment in the entire game. I really hope they don't alter this too much in the remake projects next part.

[@gleninfante216]

I was waiting for this scene in Rebirth but I guess we all will have to wait!

[@athfcoz]

No doubts, no more fears I see you shine and the dark disappears I'll be your mirror and you can be mine Look to me and you'll see just how you shine

[@tangoop095]

Clouds facial expression while falling: o-o Tifa’s: 0o0

[@gianghuynh9570]

This is gonna be a huge challenge to recreate in the remake. Harder than the stabby scene even, because it is longer and carries a lot of layers. I like how the remake are already adding subtle details showing they are indeed working toward the twist and resolution of Cloud’s illusion, by adding a few lines in Tifa’s dialogues that hints she is hiding something and is caring about Cloud and wanting to keep him around. Another detail is how they change the fountain scene, where Cloud is the one remember it and then remind Tifa, as opposed to her reminding him in the og, because the memory resonates with Cloud stronger.

[@wolfzwizdom]

Ngl as a kid weapon scared the living shit outta me the only ones that kept me going we Cid and Barret cursing at the thing lolol.

[@ThunderTurtle7]

This is a good scene but that noise totally takes me out of it. The noise Cloud makes in the wheelchair.

[@R.R.R.712]

And people wanna say team Aerith lol. But I get it, fantasy exists

[@byksEBM]

Man this is such a brilliant game...

[@justin.m5872]

I know this arguement is 20 years old but if Tifa stayed with him during his weakest and strongest moments then I don’t know what true love is

[@tifalockhart2576]

This is real true love story, not bulsyiit gold saucer date

[@nameunknowed2568]

taufik chandra i always have dates with my friend (of course she’s not my girl friend at all), a date mean nothing

[@christophergore4745]

absolutely! and i like how the remake implies his infatuation with Aerith stems from Zack...

[@justin.m5872]

Christopher Gore not against aerith and cloud romance but the substance sort of dies out if aeriths only reason for liking cloud is “ i knew someone like you”

[@jed-celsantos2188]

Jessie

[@SuparTuber]

Tifa accepted Cloud at his worst. She deserves him at his best.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

i dunno about deserve but they need each other a lot

[@lastprimaris7914]

The just have to end up together, not only does it feel right, but it's also a loving relationship

[@MrInuhanyou123]

@@lastprimaris7914 they do in the original game

[@raptor1785]

Believe me, i feel similar. But somehow. SOMEHOW! A long death girl who he met and know for a month or so is considered better suited even though Cloud suffered from a split personality disorder. Like, hello? Where was Aerith when Cloud was about to fall from the Shinra tower, does Aerith even have the key to pull the things we saw in this video? I really highly doubt it. It's embarsing to see people try so hard to proof a point how Cloud cant survive without Tifa

[@raptor1785]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Are you refering to the Ultimania of 2010? I read it, it's quite a puzzle but im pretty sure they said something about Cloud and Tifa confessing without using strong words like I love you, correct?

[@Jerbsinator]

I feel that Cloud is too hard on himself in this scene. He went through a lot of traumatic shit in a very short period of time and he could of just gone insane from it all and never recovered. Instead his mind found a way to move forward and repair itself. Sure it did this by creating a lie but it helped him survive. The mind is a powerful tool and it saved his life. Cloud doesn't give himself enough credit for that. It's hardly his fault that he "believed the lie", it was what he had to do to survive and be able to find out the real truth. He was never "weak" in the first place, nobody that is weak could survive what he did. Damn I love this game...

[@XElhirrimX]

That's not his mind. Tifa had the same traumas at the same time and did not build fake memories. The Mako did it.

[@ultrixsoma2736]

@@XElhirrimX It is. The Mako just made his memories even harder for him to connect to each other. Tifa was the only link that allowed Cloud to finally complete himself.

[@XElhirrimX]

@@ultrixsoma2736 absolutely bothing in the game or the compilation said his memories were confused because of the psychological trauma. Not a single line. The mako sickness did this. It's explicitely said that it affects memories. Just like with the other Hojo experiments that complitely lost their consciousness.

[@TrenElZombie]

Sephirot; No matter how hard i tried, ive never could scape reality, of what happened here. That, was my downfall. Cloud: Sephirot... Is that you? Sephirot: You tell me Cloud: Im done playing games sephirot. Sephirot: Oh i assure you, this is not a Game. It takes a strong man, to deny whats in front of him and if the truth is unbearable, you create your own.

[@theweebnoob7999]

well Cloud suffers of PTSD and accuses himself of the death of Zack. he literally even takes the words of Zack too seriously by being him his Living Legacy by becoming him. i think that cloud punishes himself by becoming Zack

[@MrDoubleJ2012]

Cloud's face while falling into the lifesteam: ಠ_ಠ

[@tmcttf8087]

Yep.

[@nicolasm2001]

The face of "oh no, I left the oven on".

[@TheKyfe]

Its the best

[@moisesdeoliveira6312]

I mean, the dude is in a Vegetable estate so that's normal

[@TheKyfe]

@@moisesdeoliveira6312 it's still hilarious, imo.

[@thejesman]

When people think of FF7, they usually think of Aerith's death. But for me, this right here is one of the single greatest scenes in video games.

[@MarraLo0390]

Aerith's death is iconic scene that is why people always thinks. But for me other than that when I hear or read FF7, Cloud and Tifa are always in my mind.

[@allenwjs]

I am glad i am not the only one, i have always loved this scene the most since last time as it was a really turning point of the story where Cloud coming to terms with the truth and the whole revelation of the past is revealed in detail. Plus there is small appearance of Zack as well showing care for Cloud as a friend. I am looking forward to this scene more than the other in the remake

[@pepsiboy4274]

I would say vincent xD

[@dominiccenteno1233]

I'm saddened by Aerith's death but this one feels different. It's not some groundbreaking or shocking event like Aerith's death but this one shows the depth of relationship of the characters. It shows the emotion and their bond. Truly magnificent.

[@caesarhiro3630]

Same here, many kind of feel when I watch their story. Aerith's death is iconic, but most tearfull scene is here. How cloud faced the experience of his life and how tifa tries to support cloud however he is and tell him he's not fighting his life alone.

[@straypaper]

I just realized that this isn't a one way session of Tifa helping Cloud. This is also where Tifa pieced back her past. Notice how of the three memories, Tifa only has one that she fully remembers (the Nibelheim 5 years ago). The one about the promise beside the well is hazy to her, and she never noticed about Cloud in front of her window. People think that only Cloud is a crazy mess at the start of the game, but Tifa is actually not that far off either. Think about it. If you were Tifa, all you'd remember is that Seph came, burned the village, stabbed you in the chest, and the next thing you know you're in Midgar with Master Zangan. That's why Tifa is *so* cryptic with Cloud throughout Disc 1 and Disc 2 despite being his childhood friend, and that's why their interactions are often awkward and don't add up (you see her reel back every time the past is brought as the topic even though she should be the main reliable source for them). Tifa doesn't want to talk about the past not because of some convenient plot device to set up the twist, but it's because she doubted her own memory of it. She never knew Cloud all that well despite being neighbors because of her social clique, and thus she doubted ever making that promise by the well, and doubted ever having a crush in the first place. She thought Cloud never came 5 years ago but Cloud started recollecting 5 years ago in great detail at the inn in Kalm, and thus she doubted that memory too. This is further compounded when the party revisit Nibelheim and see it not burned to the ground, making her doubt if she was rescued from a burning Nibelheim, or if she was just leaving it behind for the big city with her master. I hope the remake conveys this perfectly. Cloud and Tifa isn't just a story about the girl next door saving her broken childhood crush. It's about mental illness and what it does to your identity, the meaning of memory for one's own identity, and about the bond between people who share memories. With this scene, the two can finally move on from Nibelheim 5 years ago. In Advent Children, Tifa talks with Cloud again so he can finally move on from FF7 main game, delivering them both proper to the future. Edit: Case and point being Zack's parents in Gongaga. Aerith looked sad especially after the girlfriend question, but Tifa looks panicky. Aerith had no problem laying out how Zack was her boyfriend, but Tifa denied knowing Zack despite reacting to the name. Keep in mind at this point the player isn't supposed to know who Zack is and how important he is. Tifa probably denied this because it contradicts Cloud's memory about 5 years ago (Tifa can only know Zack if he was the other SOLDIER visiting Nibelheim instead of Cloud) and she's scared of what will happen (to their person and their current friendly relationship) if either of them finds out that their version of the past is the wrong one.

[@lae7363]

Wow,well said

[@raquelborn]

Great analysis 👍

[@vincentgraymore]

Great comment. People are either caught up in the waifu or shipping debate. The real reason why Tifa is a great character is not because she is a beautiful woman that can kick ass and a love interest for the protagonist. Everyone in FF VII suffers from a sort of survivors guilt as well as trauma from it. Tifa barely holds herself together and is so scared to ruffle her relationships with basically anyone but especially by confronting Cloud so much that the whole of FF VII could have been solved in Midgar if she just insisted on talking to Cloud. Instead, she has her heart "locked" as she is afraid. Her doubting herself and Cloud is a major part of FF VII and that comes from weakness. It seems that few people understand that FF VII is great because everyone is a mess and has major flaws and learn to accept, deal or learn from them. The rebirth trailer has Tifa actually confronting Cloud about her part in the Nibelhiem incident, which is perhaps something major, or not.

[@gianghuynh9570]

You see they are already laying out this for Tifa in the remake perfectly. You can see that she is greatly troubled by her past, and it is not hard to see the reason she wants to have Cloud around is not entirely altruistic. She needed Cloud because he is to her the last memento of her lost home, he reminds her that she had a peaceful life before (at this point she probably doesn’t associate Cloud with the Nibelheim incident yet). No doubt she found Cloud in the same situation as the OG, that is why she doesn’t want to stress him the details and instead just want to keep him around. Her character is contextualised even more via her interaction with Barret in the remake. They have an interesting dynamic: they both lost homes to fiery destruction caused by Shinra, they live like a family and care for Marlene, and build a life together. They act like a married couple, to be fair, Tifa shared more of her life with Barret than with Cloud at this moment. But through Barret we can see that Tifa is greatly in need of stability and a place to belong, otherwise she couldn’t move on from her loss in Nibelheim. In the Yuffie DLC there is a scene where Tifa rushed off to investigate Don Corneo’s men when she heard that they are probably after Barret, which lead to the Wall Market dressing up shenanigans. The remake made it clear that Tifa decided to do this on her own without consulting Barret, and the scene comes up right after Cloud’s supposed death in sector 5’s bombing, so her motivation was most likely to protect Barret, not wanting to lose yet another close friend. If you read the novel On the way to a smile, after the ending of FF7 OG, the party disbanded and only Cloud, Tifa and Barret remain together, with Barret only left after they had rebuilt another bar with the promise to return after he had settle his own issue. This context is important as we see this in remake where the trio look upon the ruin of sector 7 and talk about building another bar. The three characters share the same struggle to find stability and peace in their lives, haunted by the events of their past all the while. That’s why it’s important to understand character romance are sometimes not just about attraction and chemistry, because I would argue Tifa has better chemistry with Barret, yet they never have a romance, while living the closest thing to a married life. Tifa struggle to live with Cloud between FF7 and Advent Children because she admit she doesn’t know him that well and his memory of Aerith’s death was a huge roadblock to their romance as well. But she tolerated all of that because ultimately she had achieved a semblance of peace living with Cloud, and similar to Barret, she shares with Cloud the sad memory of witnessing Aerith’s death and the lingering guilt of causing destruction and death on their path to pursue Shinra and Sephiroth, that is ultimately what made her relationship with Cloud work.

[@ishmaelforester9825]

And for all that, the best moment if Tifa is when she slaps the crap out of Scarlett.

[@returnedtomonkey8886]

6:53 clouds face always kills me. He's like "they're kickin in..."

[@shortstack9895]

Mako not even once

[@TheAceLewis]

Me on DMT

[@TonyPajamaz]

These edibles ain’t shit

[@laurajanco2i]

I can't...

[@Archive_7802]

One drugs, please

[@DetectiveVox1412]

Geez...Mako-poisoned twice, an identity crisis, geostigma, and skewered by Sephiroth a second time. Guy really can't catch a break can he? Cloud needs a looong vacation with Tifa when the world isn't in a crisis.

[@ruintheday13]

The dude needs a psychiatrist.

[@laurajanco2i]

He just needs to cry his eyes out, marry Tifa officially and then leave with her where not even Sephiroth can find them (this last is kind of impossible, but platonically beautiful)

[@inesatt1313]

Just like Roxas in Kh he lost Xion, he was manipulated, deprived of answers, and lastly, he lost all that he knew until Sora gave it back

[@tuereveney962]

Yes. It’s too dangerous to stay at a place of suffering.

[@kaage8780]

Barret takes care of the kids? 😂 But yeah, they should go to Costa del Sol or maybe Cosmo Canyon or Wutai so they can be in a neutral place. Just the two of them 😏

[@webguy943]

i guess no one cares about the doctor being eerily calm inside the building during the earthquake, then dies as the building collapses into the lifestream. RIP doctor, u will me missed.

[@marksantiago9841]

webguy943 the doctor did not die. Come back to mideel after this. You’ll find him and the nurse perfectly fine

[@webguy943]

@@marksantiago9841 how did he get out of the building?????!?!?

[@lucyfilia5341]

@@webguy943 he teleported

[@RIELTURO]

@@webguy943 ultra instinct

[@_QWWQ_]

@@webguy943 returning from last save spot

[@andyho4048]

6:52 Cloud is like "wtf is going on"

[@princessstarwatcher4652]

Andy ho yep

[@shortstack9895]

Cloud's iconic glazed donut eyes.

[@otakugamer1018]

he's more like: xgnxhlkhjwbesje

[@nekochan_O]

This is fine

[@bloodraider9591]

He tripping over why he’s in a wheelchair

[@anarrivingwingedhussar9692]

The romance between Cloud and Tifa has always seemed much more natural and heartfelt than with Aerith. Aerith is a better match for Zack, but Cloud and Tifa go together perfectly.

[@pandiem]

@Aaron9 She said Zack was her first love, despite only knowing each other for like a day. She was kinda a hoe for him tbh...

[@dranillaasrapti9333]

@@pandiem Not to mention, she only met Cloud for like two weeks and started falling inlove with him too No offense tho

[@nameunknowed2568]

Aaron9 She confirmed Zack is her first love in remake

[@faronomus1589]

Aaron9 bruh

[@pepsiboy4274]

@Priskila Rossy Ratnasari he got rejected even in afterlife 😂

[@eduandino2495]

"Thanks Tifa, tell him what you told me, later. He'll probably be so happy" Damn, even his subconscious is telling her how deeply he cares what she thinks about about him, they never say to each other "I love you" but those little details are so obvious and beautiful... I swear I love this couple

[@bamboobamboo4566]

I've been looking for this kind of comment because no one was talking about that line huhuhuhu

[@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s]

People are crazy as hell to ship anyone outside of these two as a couple swear ill fight that to the grave.

[@darkshadowsXtreme]

@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_s I never understood why square never made them an official couple

[@solgaleooflight8703]

@@darkshadowsXtreme ffvii is not a love story tho

[@darkshadowsXtreme]

@@solgaleooflight8703 doesn't have to be a love story to make them a couple

[@eternia-reginleif]

now i remember why tifa theme sound so lonely yet so warm.

[@unnoptan5810]

eternia reginleif unlike Aerith, most of Tifa’s scenes are loneliness and sadness.

[@hathaway.1166]

@@unnoptan5810 Like if losing your mom at a young age, having your dad killed by Sephiroth, losing your bar, your home, your friends isn't bad enough

[@natsukiarima3189]

@@hathaway.1166 and yet aerith fans who are messed up in the head downplay that. Saying tifa is jealous of aerith. SHE IS JEALOUS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. 🤦‍♀️

[@requiemghost999darkrender3]

Beautiful

[@solgaleooflight8703]

@ierdnA adrecaL "supposed"

[@FreeFlow__]

I am still amazed how genius the plot of ff7 is

[@TonyPajamaz]

Better than all the other weeb trash that the series is known for. FF7 broke the mold due to its amazing story and hilarious moments.

[@Player-jh4ko]

@@TonyPajamaz It's still kinda anime looking tho.

[@tgrgjii8076]

@@TonyPajamaz ff7 is a fantastic game but imo it's one of the biggest examples of anime influence compared to what came before it

[@insanexman1015]

@@tgrgjii8076 yeah I was bouta say like this was the most anime ff game when it came out😭

[@mustofaakmal7493]

@akirafaris Facts bro, tho i'm torn between this and ff ix in that aspect

[@naruto150150]

29:50 when your leg is numb and you trying to walk down the stairs

[@vanessavaz1187]

I laughed so hard at this, thank you

[@Batman1084CK]

"So you really did come when I was in trouble!" Probably in my top 5 moments of this perfect game and story. I also get teary-eyed each time at 27:20 when the music kicks in. Feels like everything in the story was leading to this revelation. The "me" who played this in 1997 when I was ~13 years old was going through a lot of crap at that time... characters like Batman and Cloud always inspired me to remain pure/good at heart.

[@SephirotHeRe]

Can’t wait to see that part in remake eventually 😢

[@Batman1084CK]

Adding a note to this several years later after MaxDood pointed it out. The background in this does have a tear similar to the alternate universe in Rebirth. Wow. Not sure what to think of that.

[@Dan-rw9do]

This shows everything cloud did to enter soldier was so that Tifa would notice him. It was always Tifa form the get go. And people STILL try a make Aerith and cloud happen. Just no.

[@lebrunjemz687]

good thing SE is really pushing cloud+tifa relationship in the remake, never liked aerith tbh lol.

[@demonking86420]

Those ppl never played Crisis Core. It's the proof that Aerith and Zack are the soulmates

[@demonking86420]

@Kosename preach sir they dont wanna accept fairith canonicity (fairith = i combined aerith with fair, zacks last name, cuz i couldnt combine zack with aerith to make a nice ringing ship name anyway bye)

[@ekawiyani1089]

because they are blind and still cannot accept the fact that Cloud's first and last love is only Tifa ..

[@chrisprusinowski5287]

@@demonking86420 Crisis Core was never that good a game. It reasons many story elements from the original FF7. Then you have Genesis who is one of the most non-essential characters in the entirety of the FFVII compilation modelled after a J-pop artist Gackt. Aerith knew that something was not right about Cloud. She knew that the Cloud she was with was not the real Cloud and their date at the Gold Saucer proves this, when she says she wants to meet the "real you".

[@maxlefou81]

This scene!! THE moment when they open themselves to each other... When Cloud finally expose his weakness to tifa... I'm a man and i totally melted for this emotionnal story!

[@TheProtagonizer]

The moment when I totally fell in love with this game

[@jamaalharmon6305]

@Águila701 i know right.

[@shannon1242]

I fell in love when I was doing the crossdressing quest. This scene is my favorite in the entire game, even slightly edging out Aerith's finale and Sephiroth debuting in the pink swirly clouds as you hear One Winged Angel.

[@caesarhiro3630]

Not my first playthrough, since I hate to read and follow story. But then when my next playthrough, this scene made me tears.

[@skullofrebellion6653]

Biggs: "You don't have to be a Soldier to make a difference" Cloud proved that time and time again. If only he knew he'd become a hero even without needing the power of Soldier

[@AtriasNaradan]

Skullof Rebellion well, he does actually have power of Soldier, i mean he can hold Sephiroth’s katana when he’s stabbed and throw Sephiroth off to the Mako. Also, he did get injected by Jenova’s cell after the Nibleheim tragedy, which is what makes Soldiers stronger. So, he does have the power of a Soldier, he just never admitted to the organization. He would’ve officially become a Soldier if Zack never wake up and saved him from Hojo’s experiment.

[@skullofrebellion6653]

@@AtriasNaradan He didn't have the power of soldier when he picked up Sephiroth and threw him into the lifestream in Nibelheim. He was a regular infantry man who raised to the occasion to save the day. That's really what I meant

[@BknMoonStudios]

@@skullofrebellion6653 As someone else put it: "He had the mother of all adrenaline rushes."

[@AtriasNaradan]

Skullof Rebellion he was a regular infantryman, but he does turned out to have the required power to become a Soldier. That’s kinda the point of the Sephiroth throwing scene, even Sephiroth says “impossible” when Cloud lift him up by the Katana...Sephiroth was surprised because he never tought that Cloud to be that strong, because that’s the kind of strength that usually get someone admitted to become a Soldier. You don’t think that Soldiers are weak before getting injected by Mako energy right? They’re all have above average potential, that’s why they’re chosen to become Soldiers. Even after that scene, it proves further that Cloud was actually have the potential to be a Soldier, when Hojo pick him to received Jenova cell. That’s pretty much saying that Hojo wants to make Cloud a first class Soldier candidate, that can replaced Genesis and Sephiroth.

[@AtriasNaradan]

Skullof Rebellion also, your original post was obviously talking about the FF7 timeline Cloud, not the Crisis Core one. FF7 timeline Cloud is one that already got injected by Jenova cell...his achievements doesn’t fit to be the proof of what Biggs says, that you don’t have to be a Soldier to make a difference...because while Cloud is not a Soldier, he got the power of one.

[@ChristopherDavies-z1s]

How can anyone play through the story.... watch this part and fully understand it then say that aerith was clouds soulmate 😂

[@Onewingedwingman]

REAL

[@Wolf-Raven]

Delulu and picking up their own narrative just to fit for CxA pairing 😂

[@sora_escandar222]

Clerith fans do be crazy like that 😂