Cloverfield: The American Godzilla

[@SkotKozB5]

The most obvious answer for "Why did Clover try to eat the Statue of Liberty" is....Clover is a baby. Babies spend the first few years of their life putting anything they can in their mouths to figure out if it's food. Clover starts with the Statue of Liberty, finds out it doesn't taste good, and throws it away (as seen in the movie). Then Clover finds out that humans actually taste much better and decides to eat them instead.

[@jonatanluna1061]

Or, what if Clover's first taste of food actually was humans. And so when it spots what looks like a giant human it thinks, "Nice, more food" Gives it bite, realizes the big one isn't food, then spits it out. And then back to option A.

[@DHCR-core]

Which is really funny, because being a massive sea animal you'd think the go-to source of protein and fat would be whales.

[@SkotKozB5]

@LeeLee-h4y well that's what I thought as well. Just exploring the idea of him trying to eat it. Though, I suppose the marks on the head could be bite marks or claw marks.

[@troin3925]

@@SkotKozB5 It was confirmed in-universe to be bite marks. The cool Blu-ray radar feature confirms that they were bite marks.

[@gas817]

​@LeeLee-h4y Baby threw a tantrum of liberty

[@ChrisCastellaniCLC]

"I want an alternate version of Cloverfield where the monster just doesn't attack, and the next morning, Rob just sees 50 minutes of Hud telling everyone about his sex life." This video took me back, man. Good stuff.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Would almost wish for a monster attack after that

[@kingalphawerewolf]

@@merrittanimation7721 "Living in a sitcom almost makes you wish for a kaiju attack." - NCR bar tender.

[@shibumi8]

Even better if it ends with Rob throttling Hud for taping over the tap with said 50 minutes.

[@EarlHildebrandt]

​@@shibumi8Hud-loathing is an integral part of the Cloverfield viewing experience.

[@ProfDrLaeradr]

Gotta respect JJs commitment to not having a clue about the movie he helped producing.

[@Shiestey]

Hey, someone waves a fat paycheck in your face to basically put your name on the end credits, you’d do it too 🤣

[@ClydeJHatbird]

Are you talking about Cloverfield or just nearly everything he's made in general?

[@CowMaster9001]

I don't know why Uwe Boll and Michael Bay have such a reputation for smooth-brained filmmaking when JJ Abrams makes them look like Kurosowa or Kubrick.

[@Hawkatana]

@@CowMaster9001 Michael Bay sure, but let's not pretend Uwe Boll looks good next to literally anyone.

[@obsidianjane4413]

At least he is consistent.

[@christopherminardi8186]

The hold this movie and the ARG had on me back then is wild. And watching this video brought it all back. This movie has always been one of my guilty pleasures for the same reason Mr. hub was talking about and I couldn’t get enough of new lore back then

[@erikaarnold4780]

There is a game!? YAY! I love old stuff that is new to me😂😂😂 The movie had a hold on me, too, for sure. When I discovered the SCP Universe, it was like 🫨🫨🫨YESSS! THIS! Marvel can 🧦 it!😅

[@buzzbros2002]

The hold this movie and ARG had on me as well is the reason why Cloverfield is the only movie I know the exact date of release. 1-18-08 is scratched deeply in my mind.

[@guiltygearalonecompl]

I was one of the ones on the boards debating wildly for months. It culminated in me offering on opening day to buy anyone who called me on it a bottle of scotch IF it happened to be Voltron. I fucking HATED the Voltron theories.

[@RegeDop23]

watching this movie in the middle of the day in manhattan was the weirdest experience. i went into the theater and saw everything destroyed and tons of loss and death and then i stepped out into a beautiful sunny manhattan afternoon. i felt like a time traveler or something, shit was wild

[@OrroHelhammer]

Imagine thinking that trash island is beautiful, people born in new york are the worst

[@beedubree2550]

thats genuinely a really cool perspecrtive, i've never considered how disaster movies feel to people who actually live in the setting

[@than.imeiii]

@@beedubree2550I watched San Andreas 2015 in California, at the end of the movie they zoom out with california flooded including where I was 😂

[@sweaty4334]

I have deja vu reading this comment

[@Skullkaiser]

@@beedubree2550 It was before I was born but my parents were at Madison Square Garden while my uncle took my older brother to see '98 Zilla and neither group knew about it until my parents got home.

[@Lean_time32]

Transformers is calling your name Mr Hub

[@Mr.observer47]

They want your opinion on Transformers 1️⃣ Featuring Chris Hemsworth and Keegan-Michael Keyes

[@Jackalmercenary-t7y]

Transformers one PEAK CINEMA!

[@sloshed-rat]

Why are you saying it like a Bond villain?

[@jemgodspeed]

Transformers One was great!

[@theshenpartei]

Now it makes me wonder should Cody do a video on World Trade Center

[@nicholasgalvan4901]

Cloverfield: a grim realistic take on the Kaiju genre in the pov of a camera. Rest of the Cloverfield trilogy: ALIENS and DIMENSIONS

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

from what I remember of 10 Cloverfield lane it was: a scary basement but some weird alien blokes are running amuck but honestly we could probably take them

[@mosesnelson27]

"Here's Event Horizon but worse"

[@Ultrasound700]

10 Cloverfield Lane had really no reason to be a Cloverfield movie and in fact, was made worse by being attached to Cloverfield.

[@mosesnelson27]

@@Ultrasound700 Look, if J.J. Abrams appears on your doorstep during the full moon and offers to make a bargain-box office sales for your soul- you take that deal and don't look back.

[@GBDupree]

@@Ultrasound700 10 Cloverfield Lane is actually a pretty good movie, until the end when they remembered it has to be connected to Cloverfield SOMEHOW, and just throw aliens at you and then defeat them in minutes.

[@rachelbullock1636]

New favorite KZbin video breaking down a piece of media I have no personal experience with but am fascinated in the lore around unlocked

[@RealBenny0033]

Some director: Oh boy, I can't wait to release my new film that isn't at all linked to Cloverfield! J.J. Abrams: But what if it was and wasn't at the same time?

[@zalabit927]

I love when western directors/writters kill all potential of a small IP.

[@peanutgallery4]

Dr Seuss is twisting in his grave...

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

@@zalabit927i mean idk the third movie sucked on its own

[@zalabit927]

@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 Yeah that's what i'm saying, up to Cloverfield Lane we could ignore all the contradictions about the lore, but Paradox felt like a brick in the face and killed any potential left.

[@John.McMillan]

​​@@zalabit927Whatever one it was with the woman in the bunker had actual potential as it was, but it started to be REALLY bad towards the end when it tried to tie to Cloverfield. It was actually pretty good before that, yet lost me by the end.

[@stupogo0]

" until JJ opened his mouth" I feel like perfect summarizes any multi film project he's worked on

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿

[@uthopia27]

And Rian Johnson then said fck u and ruin JJ star wars with the last Jedi 😂😂

[@cael4065]

@@uthopia27jj Star Wars was already bad

[@sujimayne]

The ARG was just marketing (with obvious plot holes) and JJ was just a producer. Not sure how people got it in their heads that whatever he decides is "the canon".

[@stonesoupstudio2348]

​@@cael4065modern star wars is the Ed Sheeran of film

[@aldraone-mu5yg]

Its crazy having grown up with Cloverfield, then seeing all the 9/11 footage as an adult. Shame we never got a real sequel....To Cloverfield, not 911.

[@camquest6108]

Really saved it there at the end lol

[@dominicarroyo6269]

Well a sequel to Cloverfield is actually in the works and have been for a two if not three years I believe but not sure if it's gonna stick to the found footage look or an actual movie but it's set to show what happened after the first movie and etc

[@EthanLy-re6bd]

What happened to 910 and the others? Edit: How did this comment get 100+ likes 😭 This isn’t even that good of a comment.

[@emuanon34]

Cody posted your comment on twitter, have fun.

[@creaturw]

There's Paradox and Cloverfield Lane. While they're not direct sequels they delve into the lore more than the first movie where the ARG stuff comes into play. The bigger mommy monster is also shown at the end of Paradox.

[@expression1968]

Guys I just watched Cloverfield for the first time, and words can't explain it. I sat there in complete silence (Which is rare for me) and just watched, every second kept me on edge and I had to tell ya'll to go watch it, I watched it free on Pluto TV so I hope that helps. Thanks Cody for peaking my intrest in a movie i've never seen. Keep up the great work man!

[@AReservoirDog]

The "It's still alive" message in the credits shouldn't have been sequel bait, just a small, final mystery to keep fans thinking about the movie for years to come.

[@RictorScale]

unfortunately in the nostalgia driven world we are in now it's almost inevitable

[@willardtk]

I mean, so far so good. I don't count the other two as having anything to do with the first

[@AReservoirDog]

@willardtk Yeah I agree, those were literally J.J Abrams slapping the Cloverfield name on shit movies that weren't gonna put any asses in chairs without being connected to an established brand.

[@ProfOpp-ev9ks]

And then you make a sequel like 10 years later

[@APinchofBazel]

⁠@@AReservoirDog Hey now, 10 Cloverfield Lane was good, and would’ve probably been better without Cloverfield.

[@Coff33Drink3r02]

Hearing Cody genuinely analyze and break down the metaphors of a film is so so refreshing holy shit.

[@liamphibia]

Yeah hearing him of all people breaking down and analyzing something grabbed all of our attention.

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

@@liamphibiathe ONE time where the moniker of “pointlesshub” doesn’t feel pointless at all.

[@chrisbrasel8060]

His videos are both entertaining and enlightening reasons why he's one of my favorite KZbinrs.

[@Truck-kun11]

This movie and "War of the Worlds" do something really interesting that you don't see done much: They give us a perspective on what it would be like to be a random extra in the middle of a disaster movie. No plot armor, no narrative relevance, no grand finale. Just a bunch of normal people trying to survive a nightmare.

[@Dhips.]

You could argue the main three actors in Cloverfield had some plot armor till their role was filled and could die, but I wholly agree with you.

[@zillauniverse7208]

Skyline try doing it too except it was executed like shit.

[@tarnetskygge]

Spielberg put a ton of plot armour onto the son character in War of the Worlds, it's one of the more common issues people have with that movie.

[@aliceiscalling]

Cloverfield and War of the Worlds are the only 2 horror movies that live rent free in my head. Partially because of my fear of aliens, but still. I never cared about slashers or paranormal films. These ones are the ones that got me.

[@rushi5638]

The Mist. The Mist! THE MIST! We can't forget The Mist (2007). No plot armor there. Oh boy is there no plot armor there.

[@clickbaitgoat2651]

I'm just finding out about this channel so sorry for the late comment 3 weeks later. I was one of those people who was so obsessed with this movie, that at school I got banned from the library computers cause I just spent all of my time going through the ARG and fawning over Clover. I literally just watched this movie again for like the 100th time. I saw this in theatres so many times but stopped when one of my friends kept getting violently ill from the camera shakes. Good times. Glad he came with me like 3 times.

[@thecatinthefedora1201]

Every monster movie always ends up with an attack against a big city. Just once I'd like to see a very confused kaiju rampaging through an empty field of corn

[@Flash-FireCC]

What do you got against the poor farmers?

[@TrueNamelessOne]

​@@Flash-FireCCThey're poor

[@Ptaku93]

there's no spectacle in that, tho

[@05TE]

​@@TrueNamelessOneOnly because all these kaiju keep ruining their crops.

[@RyneLanders]

Watch a movie called Monsters. Takes place south of the border, jungle and desert

[@UMIF001]

You can see how Cloverfield directly or indirectly influenced 2014 Godzilla, such as the Muto's design and how a lot of scenes are filmed on human level

[@TypicalSergio23]

That's what I was thinking, clover looks so much like a MUTO

[@liamphibia]

And then the MonsterVerse went on a completely different direction after 2014.

[@UMIF001]

@@liamphibia Because a lot of people didn't like it at that time (myself included). It hard to see the action cause it's so dark and the monsters get so little screentime. Fans and general audience wanted more monsters and less human.

[@madwibble]

2014 zilla also was Gareth Edwards directing.

[@SWDude2710]

@@UMIF001 and tbh, that honestly was for the better, and the movies have been doing pretty well with that sentiment. GxK especially proves that with it being the highest grossing monster movie of all time now, and it also being one hell of an awesome ride you can switch your mind off to when you want to enjoy the action, or enjoy Kong actually being quite a well developed character who never speaks!

[@ferghalicious1480]

Cloverfield fans 🤝🏻 Gorillaz fans The depressing realisation that none of the lore adds up and that the creators never really knew or cared about it anyway

[@CzariJumpscare]

hits hard as a Gorillaz fan.

[@mrmr4622]

Doesnt make the movie any worse in my eyes, I still enjoy it very much

[@seanthenerd08]

They play gorillaz in the movie fittingly enough

[@crispcoffee7958]

It was about the friends we made along the way

[@abesolutzero]

@@CzariJumpscare lol, can you elaborate?

[@deanstownhall]

Gotta love anytime a creator makes a vid on cloverfield. The way this movie had a hold on me FOR YEARS purely based off of the visuals/cinematography. Great video 🙏 many thanks

[@AramisNailz]

I worked on Cloverfield as a background extra. It actually led to me getting with my SO because they damaged her car during filming(It's a whole other story). The amount of NDA and secrecy was heavier than anything I had worked on. Most of the crowd shots in the early movie was filmed at Paramount studios and we were given very vague instructions on reacting to certain things but we had no idea what we were actually reacting to. Entire buildings in the outdoor city setting on the Paramount lot were covered in green screen. It was kind of impressive. They were using the Cloverfield name for the project, but we were told it was just a placeholder name, which is not uncommon with productions that are trying to avoid attention when filming on location outside of a studio.

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

@@AramisNailz that is so fascinating! Thank you for sharing! Happy for you and your S.O. Got to meet! I hope you named something like a pet Clover in honor of that 😆

[@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63]

Yeah, Return of the Jedi was called blue harvest during production and I'm told it was for the same reason. Nobody would leave their sets alone otherwise.

[@sizzlewizzle8886]

@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 I automatically assumed this was a Mr. Sunday's Movie reference.

[@NikLaptev]

JJ 2007: add as much meaning and layers of hidden lore JJ 2019: somehow Palpatine returned

[@ea5yliver]

Man, he can't even remember his OWN shit he wrote-he was always a hack.

[@emmanuelwil-jeff]

palpatine returning was the biggest ass pull ever and like rey really needed that i think the empire was doing a fine job im less surprised tho that he's also her grandfather and im sure that was the biggest surprise to people but like understanding those movies don't follow the "canon" or were made by Kathleen kenndy bring back Palpatine makes me think just bring back vader instead since he's someone people actually like as a villain :P

[@nathanielvaughn6728]

"Somehow, Clover returned."

[@Gunni1972]

That chewing gum stain in frame 23748 is the father of cloverfield?

[@alaric_]

My head canon: JJ is doing all this for purpose to create mystery. If everything is just neatly catalogued and explained, it kills much of the mystique around it. At the same time it also limits the creators on fixed and set plot train of a plot. So, JJ and the others just started contradicting each others in every way and they succeeded: the timeline, origins and what-not is still a total mystery. And i like it that way.

[@cutthetaurus7530]

So I’m going to say this to add fuel to this headcannon fire. The 15th anniversary 4K edition has a bonus feature called “special investigation mode” where it basically shows the entire movie with extra stuff around it, which included a space for background information in text (like who the characters were, locations, timeline, etc.) and a pic to go along with it. The thing is, it tells almost the entire ARG story with Slusho, Tagurauto, TIDO, and that damned satellite. I don’t know anymore but thank you Pointless Hub for the awesome video and suffering Mystery Box Madness to bring it to us.

[@VicThePirate]

holy hell that's so cool

[@reallyidrathernot.134]

Feel like whoever made the ARG deserves some recognition here

[@amosmoses5630]

The ARG is government misdirection 😂

[@troin3925]

@@cutthetaurus7530 This is something I also mentioned in another comment. It’s also on the original Blu-ray release.

[@Samu0205]

I remember there was a website with the "special investigation mode" comments linked with pictures. It looked like a slideshow made by the government, like a classified report. Sadly that website is down now :(

[@daftrok]

I actually liked the World Trade Center movie with Nicholas Cage. The underground hell they were stuck in, the hallucinating, actually showing someone jumping to escape the fires, the chirping sounds of all the fallen firefighters. It was very visceral.

[@dragonturtle2703]

The ARG still has mystery. Things like "where did it come from", "Are there more down there", and "Is anything going to happen to the people drinking Sea Bed Nectar?"

[@breastmilkgaming]

yep! the ARG elements were fun esp the myspace accounts pf the actors

[@WickedSauce_73]

yeah uhm nothing good comes out of the sea is what movies have taught me. THEORY TIMEEEE so either clover was always just there or from space it doesn’t matter to me. more, the satellite was what we saw falling and the arg cannon happened and sea bed nectar was being mined. but maybe clover was there first and was like, ‘wait my food get off’ and destroyed the rig, and then afterwards the nectar floated in the direction of ny and clover followed it and the film happened ig. but my theory is that mabye the nectar had like something in it and the next project will be showing what happened to them. because why specify they wanted the nectar for their slushy company if you could just be like, ‘it was just oil guys, oil=money so they wanted it’. basically, there’s something more to it than just a slushy ingredient. ok bye

[@Pixelpirate66]

In a comic there’s a ton of creature eggs down below the sea that ar shown to be hit by a probe or submarine or something

[@WickedSauce_73]

@@Pixelpirate66 THEY HIT THE EGGS AND THE NECTAR WAS RELEASED AND THEN THEY MINED IT SO SMALLER PARASITES ARE NOW IN PEOPLE

[@thegeekfanatic]

The ARG version has the highest probability of combining with the monsterverse's Hollow earth which would be a cool avenue to explore if possible.

[@benwasserman8223]

Definitely feels like Cloverfield was one of the last found footage movies one could reasonably use a handheld camera to document. We were only a year or two away from smartphones and social media dominating everything in life.

[@remuslazar2033]

The last of the good old days

[@hollister2320]

Counterpoint:

[@John.McMillan]

Too right mate.

[@user-to9ge8ii9n]

Yes, we all hold our phones with our toes to take video now. What a brave new world.

[@isaac6077]

Ye. And alot of newer cameras have some active stabilization built in so one can hope shaky cam will die

[@acidpain6059]

to be completely fair a Voltron movie from the perspective of people on the ground watching Voltron fight a giant monster would have been fucking sick

[@Xnvasxve]

Not really lol it would be better to just see voltron fighting a monster from a normal perspective.

[@Espartanica]

​@@XnvasxveYou could do both without either one having to get in the way of the other.

[@iampuff7]

There is an episode of the voltron netflix that is exactly that

[@SoulTaker78]

There was news that Henry Cavill has joined the cast of the live action Voltron movie that's supposed to start production this fall. Hope it's true.

[@LeeONardo]

There is a video game where you play as civilians trying to make it through a city as Ultraman etc fight. I think it was made by the Disaster Report developers.

[@its_bodak]

Whoa Putting Chronicle in one of the trends that killed the genre is crazy( Literally. One of the best found footage )

[@thedailydoseofrandomnesscr1931]

At 15:07 it shows Mr.Peanut in NYC during 9/11. That man witnessed the attacks of 9/11 dressed as a peanut.

[@Dr-Zoid-Berserk]

Messed up lol

[@FortyHurts]

If it helps, they didn't see anything from Rockefeller Plaza.

[@slovakiaballif24]

There is someone on earth today that can say “what I remember about 9/11 is being dressed as Mr Peanut.

[@umad42]

"What were you doing on 9/11?" "I was dressed as Mr. Peanut on national Television" -That Guy Probably

[@brickrose9756]

Do you think that he gets distant whenever someone asks him where he was on 9/11?

[@biraptor6205]

There's something about the ARG lore about Sea Nectar being dug up for slushy flavours which then led the Kaiju being awoken that gives this frightening movie a kinda comical and absurd aspect to it Imagine a Lovecraftian horror movie where the eldritch monster was unleashed from the mountain it was imprisoned in because a fastfood chain company *really* wanted some special salt rocks for their fries

[@gamemax1049]

It feels like something out of a edgy cartoon, and i'm all for it

[@vee-bee-a]

Lord. Reminds me of Slurm, and that alien fast‑food episode in O.G. Teen Titans where Beast Boy becomes an employee.

[@ToaArcan]

They could make it really topical by having the corporation detect the monster before they wake it up and the ultimate result of that is that the CEO says "Well waking the monster is a risk we're taking but if we _stop_ mining the salt then that will negatively affect our shareholders!" and then literally the next day they drill into one of its nostrils and it wakes up.

[@645MF]

as comical as that is, companies literally operate like that. sooooo, not to far fetched lol

[@leithaziz2716]

Themes of consumerism.

[@samutamus526]

Fun fact about Apollo 18. They did in fact record multiple endings, one of which a astronaut survives and returns back to earth along with the footage. But why they didn't use it is beyond me.

[@RetroMagnus761]

He doesn't actually survive. The space craft lands back down on the moon after running out of power

[@clipboss8052]

I always assumed they just broadcast footage back to Earth. Since it is a secret mission though, it goes to the CIA or the FBI or some other secret organization. Hey, we managed to broadcast the Apollo 11 landing. Why not this?

[@obijuanquenobi1911]

@@RetroMagnus761In one ending, Grey survives and returns back to Earth. However, it’s revealed to him that the astronauts were sent up there to get infected and come back so the US could use the alien venom as a bio weapon against the Soviets.

[@RetroMagnus761]

@@obijuanquenobi1911 I'm pretty sure that's the ending I was talking about. His space ship loses power at the last minute and crashes back down to the moon.

[@baronhelmut2701]

Are we talking about Apollo 13 ? 18 Confuses the fuck outta me.

[@NightindaleFilms]

this was my first video of yours and now I have watched them all. keep up the amazing work!

[@meateater1002]

"This isn't death of the author, it's all of the authors fucking killing each other." I'm dying. EDIT: Thank you for getting 10k likes for some reason :)

[@leithaziz2716]

I don't usually delve into media literacy that much to the point of discussing "death of the author", but it's one hell of a scenario when each director involved with the project has a different interpretation of an ending that you're actually forced to make an interpretation on your own.

[@madmike022]

@@leithaziz2716 Honsetly, it might be the best case scenerio. With such a lack of even official recongnition of a certain set of events, it truely leaves you with your own sense of interpretation, more than most fiction does

[@theboihilbirt1277]

Sound like Star Wars, oh wait seconds!!...

[@PierzStyx]

Some of it is easily reconcilable though. It was an alien that crashed to Earth as it clearly didn't evolve in Earth gravity. Then the company woke it up while drilling. At the end of the movie the monster was still alive when they camera was running, but died afterwards. This isn't so far fetched. After all, the humans who were at ground zero for the bombing were also still alive, enough to say it was still alive, at least. But then they died, too. The tape seems to clearly cut before all the action is over, after all. The only real issue are the dates given in the ARG and the movie conflicting.

[@Laxhoop]

That’s everything J.J. Abbrams is involved with.

[@LordyT34]

The thing I remember was all the fan theories about their actually being two monsters the whole time, backed up by a massive amount of circumstantial evidence and 0.5 second frames

[@BierBart12]

Bigger Luke theory

[@ShawnCunningham-96]

8:53 I don't see how this aged terribly. I spent the whole movie thinking TJ Miller was an asshole who ought to get beaten with a stick. Real life hasn't proven me wrong.

[@jubal6654]

Later on he says how then he watched the movie for this video and indeed it's great and it is indeed great

[@chaosgyro]

I met TJ once, and without cameras rolling he was a pretty nice dude.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

@@chaosgyro erm

[@chaosgyro]

@FoxtrotYouniform i co-own a dive bar right next to a (now closed) comedy club he did a show at. We're a big spot for all the industry folks for the other bars, the nearby concert hall staff, and the comedy club people before it shut down. When the entertainers ask for a dark spot to get drunk that they won't get mobbed the staff usually sends bands amd comics our way. To contrast TJ Miller with someone else, I actually had the lead for Alien Ant Farm, the guys whose biggest claim to fame is a cover of a Michael Jackson song, try to pull the "don't you know who I am" crap when we were closing up. So yeah, I know Miller has his issues, but he also struck me as someone you could actually be friends with.

[@FoxtrotYouniform]

@@chaosgyro that wasnt the part of your comment that elicited my response lol

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

What a delightful video. I laughed about every 30-45 seconds. You've got a great delivery and a great sense of comedic timing. Can't wait to watch some of your other stuff.

[@purplehaze2358]

Wow, you're telling me two people operating under the "mystery box" mindset forgot the lore of their creation? That totally isn't the 15th time this has happened.

[@kbbd6999]

Hell this has happened to JJ Abrams specifically like four times now., he is a clinical case of having good ideas not sticking to them and then chasing shock value

[@rutgaurxi7314]

@@Brick_Boi_ Yes, as someone who did film studies, I would recommend working out your world building and characters first. The "Mystery Box" approach barely worked, even when it worked, the script doctors must've been working overtime on Alias and LOST.!!

[@alphabros5226]

@@Brick_Boi_ An Addendum to the other comment is that, from what I've learned about this process, is that it doesn't need to be every detail plotted out, but their should still be a rough outline "plot a leads to plot b etc". I think it's clear with the interviews there was no plan of any movie after this one.

[@TalentCaldwell]

@@Brick_Boi_ Only if you’re the type of creator who’s interested in the “why’s” and “how’s” things happen. JJ Abrams has a producer’s mentality where all he is interested in is “what” happens (and then this happens, and that happens, and then wouldn’t it be cool if…, and that’s when XYZ appears…, but then suddenly out of nowhere…). And unfortunately there are a lot of people in creative industries who tend to think no further than that. Logistics and continuity be damned.

[@enlightmentxv1548]

​@@Brick_Boi_ If you want to make a good story, yes.

[@Kaishen021]

"If you stare into the abyss of the Mystery Box does it stare back?" No. That would imply that J.J. actually put something in the box.

[@Bruh-tw8uh]

The mystery box could be a good storytelling element in the hands of a good writer. Unfortunately jj is not a good writer

[@Dimeinurear]

@@Bruh-tw8uh I've been screaming it for years, but JJ hasn't heard me yet. If you have a mystery box in your story, YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN THE BOX, YOU CAN'T JUST IGNORE IT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BOX.

[@XxTaiMTxX]

@@Dimeinurearnot just have something in the box, either. It has to be designed in such a way that suddenly everything makes 100% sense. In writing my own “Mystery Boxes”, this is the hardest part to get right, but is the most satisfying to an audience. The solution to the mystery answers all the questions in the lore. Then, if you’re really good at writing… the answer gives you new questions and maybe new lore. It isn’t enough to say, “everyone was dead the whole time”. You have to say, “this is why only these people showed up here despite how many people die every single day”. Then, you can move on to, “but wait, people can die twice? What happened to those people?” And you have a new and interesting bit of lore to keep going with. Early X-Files handled the Mystery Box the best in my opinion. Answer some questions, raise more. Keep edging toward the conclusion, deliver a satisfying answer.

[@Dimeinurear]

@@XxTaiMTxX My guess is that JJ simply writes 1 step at a time and never writes an outline so it's a series of him stumbling to the next mystery box one after another.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

​@Dimeinurear except that's the whole point of the mystery box concept as JJ explained it. The Mystery Box is there to make the audience show up to the theater or tune in to the next episode, it's not supposed to be answered or thought about, it's supposed to draw folks in, and once they're in it no longer matters.

[@peacekorpofkrieg5755]

The slushie goo is bluish green, the Statue of liberty is bluish green. The baby thought it was a slushie.

[@LuigiNtbk]

by that reasoning i guess that would probably explain why it started eating people since they were also drinking the slushie

[@georgehannaford8014]

@@LuigiNtbk That's actually a legitimately great theory, nice

[@mkultra2456]

@@georgehannaford8014 aCkShUaLlY

[@jazzingpanda3190]

Maybe it just doesn’t like the French?

[@AltCutTV]

It's a big metal structure with similar electromagnetic properties of the spaceship that opened the interdimensional portal. Either the creature sensed that and tried to get back home, or it was angy about the kidnapping.

[@animatedterror8305]

blair witch was the craziest found footage movie to be filmed, not the movie itself but the way they filmed it. it was all real and genuine to the actors, it's worth a video on its own

[@darrenheideman2546]

The fact that the creature is practically a lost toddler puts a nice spin on things. I do remember the theories that it was a new Godzilla, or at least something related to Toho.

[@sujimayne]

And then he wonders why a gigantic baby tried putting the statue of liberty in its mouth...

[@monketron]

I loved Cloverfield so much as a teen, i saw it 3 times in theaters. i still have the tickets to this day, incredible movie.

[@TabathaTMartin]

Same, still one of my favorite Kaiju films

[@LunaTheMoonWitch]

Why? It's nit like they'll let you in with tickets that are nearly 2 decades old. Sorry, couldn't resist.

[@jiado6893]

I grew up with this movie. I never heard about all this ARG stuff. Anytime I read the comments underneath KZbin clips, people would say Clover was the meteor crashing in the background of Coney Island.

[@monketron]

@@jiado6893 i always had the theory that it was a Slusho corporation nuclear powered satellite crashing into the ocean causing fish to mutate and merge together. Nobody i talked to thought it was believable, for obvious reasons.

[@pokemonduck]

thanks for the good memories, monke

[@noahearl-jackson5588]

I still do not understand my obsession with this channel. I can binge watch these all day without stopping I love em

[@jimmyseaver3647]

It's probably because Cody delivers a rather sober take on things, in the sense of "The party's been over for a while, but may as well look back on it and... good _god_ what happened was wild."

[@CasualCat64]

@@jimmyseaver3647no that’s not it it’s because it’s good background noise

[@stepandanek6138]

He's relatable, he's one of us, but can articulate it in a way that makes us listen.

[@SourRobo8364]

I think it's his voice. Something about Cody's voice makes it easy to listen to.

[@Chvwy]

It's because of his voice and background music, it's oddly relaxing

[@AJEJ22]

I loved chronicle. I remember watching a bunch of these movies the summer of becoming a freshman in highschool. I would walk about 30 minutes to the library and just rent a lot of movies of these genres. Cloverfield, chronicle, the darkest hour, paranormal activity... It was especially cool watching them at night with my sisters. This was about 11 years ago. I miss those days when life was simple. Now... Well all I can do is just keep going even though life is pretty much at an all time low for me.

[@Themoonishereagain]

I watched Cloverfield just to get ready for this video and it instantly became one of my favorite horror movies of all time, thanks Cody!

[@Theology.101]

the whole series is a banger too, but paradox gets weird

[@TabathaTMartin]

You should definitely watch 10 Cloverfield Lane next

[@Themoonishereagain]

@@TabathaTMartin I did, I really liked that as well!

[@Reitaliation]

​@@Theology.101paradox isn't weird, just lazy written shitty d tier movie that got "Cloverfield" slapped on it last minute

[@GeminiWoods]

@@Theology.101 Paradox was pretty fucking terrible.

[@amelancholybear1534]

Came for a breakdown of America's best kaiju movie, left with a deep feeling of contentment regarding the rather recent problem of decanonization, head canons, and death of the author. Thank you, Cody.

[@dracodracarys2339]

I love how after Cloverfield every movie monster just looked like that. The Mutos from Godzilla, the creatures from A Quiet Place, some of the Decepticons in Dark of the Moon, the Future Predator from Primeval, Otachi from Pacific Rim...

[@RegalRoyalWasTaken]

I mean to be fair, 'upright but four legged' is a really weird and creepy design so. It's not exactly a BAD trope.

[@fabricreative1930]

Wasn't the Future Predator from Primeval created the year before Cloverfield?

[@CoercedJab]

@@RegalRoyalWasTakenthe point is that it comes from cloverfield and I don’t think any quiet place fan recognizes that 😂

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

@@dracodracarys2339 it’s the “Lord of the Ring Ogre CGI” face of creature design!

[@kasjamm]

Orga in Godzilla 2000 had that look first

[@berniebroig8745]

I hadn't noticed your Clover doodle when you mentioned the possibility of seabed's nectar being kaiju goo. Now I have, and I love that cute, lil' guy

[@thakillman7]

I do love that JJ Abrahams can't stop fucking up canon. I can't believe there are still people who take him seriously

[@stevenwhoward87]

Ah, man! That is hilarious! At the 30:40 mark that satellite is actually one of the very early renders of a spacecraft I did at th company I used to work for! Didn't expect to see that on one of your videos! Haha!

[@doorframe2315]

Small world

[@djzeno22]

Wow that's cool 🤯👌

[@BobbyS84]

That's awesome! What kind of work/company was that?

[@CasepbX]

@@BobbyS84 3D modeling would be the work. No clue what company.

[@stevenwhoward87]

@@BobbyS84 it used to be done in Adobe Illustrator (like the satellite shown) but now is done in 3D. I used to work for Maxar Space Systems (used to be Maxar, SSL, and Space Systems Loral - which is what it was called when I did this art in 2012/2013)

[@daylen577]

That sinking feeling of dread that some movies give you is so amazing. Really shows that even the most dead-inside humans still have empathy

[@ThalesWell]

The “dead inside” phenomenon is usually caused by suppressing empathy. It never disappears.

[@D9fjg]

​@@ThalesWell And if it completely disappears you're not dead inside you're a psycho

[@ald7282]

a thing that popped into my head for the statue of liberty thing: clover is a massive, clumsy baby. given his feeding organs are down by his belly, maybe clover stumbled and grabbed onto the statue and sent the head flying, leaving claw marks. or his fishy brain connected metal statue with the metal tanker (which was probably full of humans he could snatch up) and tried to investigate whether it was edible with his mouth.

[@JustinY.]

Cody we all know that you'll eventually cave in, you can't hide from Transformers forever

[@henrynelson9301]

Yo hey Justin

[@leonelvazquez2641]

Haven’t seen you since 2018

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

hi Justin long time no see

[@aze4308]

yo

[@thatguy3421]

I vaguely remember you

[@realllybadgaming9216]

Casually drops the best Cloverfield lore video in 15 years

[@jubal6654]

Also really the only one I've seen to mention the hard reality that the ARG is actually built with hot glue and popsicle sticks, I used to follow it as gospel but this really made me see things with different eyes plus opening many cans of worms people feared opening Great vídeo 10/10

[@ashuraomega1000]

@@jubal6654 It's the explanation that makes the most sense at least

[@jubal6654]

@@ashuraomega1000 really the best explanation is that the monster is an alien and what we saw at the end of the movie was the egg crashing in the ocean Straightforward and simple yet people used to not like it because it meant all the ARG is irrelevant yet seeing all the issues the ARG has with the dates

[@_The_Traveler_]

I remember the promotional material for this movie before it came out, and how we were kept completely in the dark about what in the world we were even watching. I loved that in a way I can't really express with words, I despise the modern pitfall of showing the entire plot of a movie with the theatrical trailer. Keeping everything a mystery built a special type of hype around this movie that I don't know can even happen again because of how movies are sold and pitched these days. Even when the movie opened and you got through the first 30 or so minutes, you still had absolutely no clue what the threat was, where it came from, or why it was attacking the city. This was a moment in time you just had to be there for, a once-in-a-generation experience.

[@JayEmersontheman]

Sameeee and it’s funnily enough what had me hyped for a possible sequel (before the “sequels” came out) and had me recapping through the history again to catch up on lore years later lol

[@_The_Traveler_]

@@JayEmersontheman I'm really glad we were alive for this, I don't think we'll see a marketing campaign like that ever again. Super 8 comes to mind, that's the only other example of obscure marketing I can think of, but it wasn't nearly on the same scale as this.

[@greengleens]

The closest recent example I'm aware of was Longlegs. The first teaser was so vague, it didn't reveal the title, just pure dread.

[@LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOME]

​@@greengleens I agree with you, Longlegs was the first movie in a long time I've gotten excited for, didn't read any spoilers but watched the teasers again and again.

[@Bell_Andy1]

I remember seeing the teaser trailer for (then titled) “1-18-08” in front of “Transformers” in theaters in 2007 when I was in 5th grade. The Way the trailer began and escalated and ended with the head of the Statue of Liberty falling was intense. I made my mom take me to go see Cloverfield on opening night. I remember my crowd boo’d at the end: “what?!!” “Oh, come on!!!!” “Boo!!!” “Boooooooo!!!!!!!”

[@TheSleepSteward]

How would nothing be canon if he says it's an alien? It makes perfect sense. Clover fell into the ocean, he's a baby alien. He lands at high speed, he goes underwater and probably sinks into the depths. He's asleep after entry into the atmosphere and Earth's ocean. He's then woken up by the drilling rig and gets angry, and takes the rig down into the ocean.

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

HES ALIVE!

[@HasturBeta]

HE'S A LION

[@TabathaTMartin]

HE'S POINTLESS!

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Need him to talk about Daredevil.

[@Morfe02]

OH ALEX THE LION WHAT ARE DOING HERE

[@90sdiablo51]

@@Morfe02 ALEX THA LION WTH ARE YOU DOING IN MY CAR?

[@markcasadevall9509]

It’s always a good day when you post. Quality over quantity

[@wilsonv7117]

my dad took the family to cloverfield and i thought it'd be a godzilla type. made it 90% of the way there before struggling to hold my vomit in from eating popcorn to stave away how terrified i was as a new york city kid having to take the train and think about crab-alien-parasites crawling out and killing me-- ended up puking in my hands right before they got to central park and my dad had to take me out of the theater before anything got worse with my situation. he never got to see the ending because of me, and i couldnt stop researching that movie after seeing it despite how scary it was. he was bummed he missed out on the ending but laughed at how i was acting like i survived an infinite rollercoaster. thank you dad, love you. thanks for making this video. it really shows how creative and new ideas really do stick in the minds of those who immersed themselves in it.

[@GutPoacher]

The way you talk gives me the impression that your dad has died since then... "he never got to see the ending because of me." But if he isn't gone though and i'm just pulling shit outta my ass, why not rewatch it with him? So he can finally see the ending?

[@cyber1ifeconnor]

Bro you sound pathetic af 😂

[@k98killer]

"I saw it in theaters...how can it be old?" I feel that one. Oof.

[@ducktergoose8317]

holy shit perfect timing for dinner

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

Its 12 pm for me

[@giorgioguolo7196]

Britain?

[@SMILE-h3]

Im in class😢

[@evanbrown4083]

Lunch time

[@artvandellay]

@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852EST bros stand up

[@bensaret]

Easy explanation for the discrepancy in dates at 25:24: Robb's camera just didn't have the right date programmed into it. He got lazy, left it at the factory setting or was screwing with it and messed up the date or it uses European dates so he put in 1-4-08 but the camera thought it was 4-1-08, take your pick. But in the end, the ARG is hero, and Robb's camera is the villain in this scenario. Peter Griffin (pops on screen): "There, I just saved you two boobless hours."

[@Taurickk]

Came here to say the same thing

[@JD2390]

The only way for it to work would be if the first date was wrong and Robb filmed his date on January (nice weather btw) and later he found out it was wrong and changed to the actual date. As Cody said, it's your head canon so use as you will.

[@R1ckDeckard]

Cloverfield's ARG walked so The Dark Knight's ARG could run. There were scavenger hunts, full news segments, plenty of context for Gotham falling into chaos and rise of Joker. That's the type of going the extra mile that I love

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

huh never heard if it neat

[@mrosskne]

the dark knight had an ARG?

[@lukethekuya]

Yep! ​@@mrosskne

[@celuler22]

Let me just drop i love bees here

[@blnt4ce]

I remember looking up the easter eggs as a kid, like the satellite falling during the videotape, and the soldier saying "its still alive" at the end credits. S Tier movie.

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

I never connected that the Statue of Liberty head throw was a reference to escape from New York, makes so much sense now

[@ripzaurus]

Best way to fix the incongruent dates of the satellite falling: The Chimpanziii satellite did fall in January. The object we see fall from the sky in the movie is just a random meteor, and its only purpose is to make people wonder what it was to guide them to the ARG. That's gonna be my headcanon anyway.

[@Botar48]

I am gonna say there was another satellite, lets say Chimpanz2, that fell before, which resulted in oil rig being constructed and then when Chimpanziii fell it caused chain reaction in ocean floor that results in oil rig waking up the Cloveer. Reason why both of them are called Chimpanziii is due to corporation cover up muddling the facts.

[@Tracker947]

It's also possible the satellite fell in two separate pieces. It did say something like, "A critical piece fell..." Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be satellite because from the looks of it, almost the whole damn thing survived re-entry

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Or the camera was just programmed with the wrong date...

[@luisgentil]

I remember watching this movie and being very impressed. It throws in a bunch o cliché kaiju scenes, buildings crumbling, soldiers fighting the monster etc. But then it shows it all from the perspective of helpless citizens getting desperate over all the dust, noise and disorder ensuing below. I talked to people at the time about it and everyone was frustrated over not getting a good look at the monster or not knowing its origin story. To me the lack of these details helped add in the sense of helplessness that made the movie such a unique experience. Looking back and knowing who mystery box guy is now, this was one of the few instances where this type of direction fit perfectly. I never felt like I needed a plot reveal for Cloverfield. It is what it is and I love it.

[@thisiswahab1530]

100% Last sentence can apply to a lot of movies, too

[@BenDoherty-ir2rt]

Kane Pixels found footage and Godzilla had a baby and it was this movie.

[@purplehaze2358]

I think an alternate version of the film where the monster is replaced by Vultron, but quite literally nothing else changes, would be hilarious.

[@Ryan.2]

I can see someone making a short clip replacing Clover with Vultron.

[@auliamate]

Voltron if they lions rejected the paladins and said "fuck you, fuck your species, fuck your planet"

[@aetholus2982]

Possible explanation for the statue being attacked by Clover is that it was going for the metal. The first thing Clover attacks is the tanker which also is not human nor human shaped. But it is metal. If metal is a dietary requirement like salt or calcium clover probably attacked both to fulfill that requirement and then ate people because they were nearby and had enough calories to justify it. Clover probably saw people like a whale sees shrimp. Tasty and nutritious if consumed in large numbers but missing some key nutrients, like copper and iron.

[@pointless_normalcy3621]

It’s just a baby so it could’ve just tried to eat something. Didn’t taste great and yeeted the head and tasted humans and cloverfield all over

[@marlzz92]

I love that canonically, someone named two satellites CHIMPANZ-I and CHIMPANZ-II just to eventually call one CHIMPANZEE-III. Great work from that fictional person 😂

[@Espartanica]

Maybe it was one satellite that served 3 functions or had 3 modules or such

[@johnterpack3940]

Especially since it was a Japanese company making a pun in English.

[@joshtauber]

It being revealed as a trailer for when you saw transformers is hysterical. I was six when I went to go see that movie with my dad and the clover field trailer scared the shit out of me.

[@Theoneandonlydomtorento]

The human camera aspect of this movie really makes you the viewer scared as if you were with them. Not to mention the monsters size

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

Dominic Toretto

[@Wruce_Bayne]

I'd like to take a moment to appreciate the fact Heavy Rain came out almost 15 years ago and the clips from it are still fucking hilarious

[@mrosskne]

what's heavy rain?

[@Ragedaonenlonely]

@@mrosskne A playstation-exclusive narrative driven game by someone who really wanted to be a film director but instead made video games.

[@lisboah]

Props to that helicopter pilot. Rather than leading the civilians onboard to safefy, he decided to get close to the cloud of smoke where the giant monster was.

[@smilesfoutch6996]

Brother had to get the best view of course

[@reallycantthinkofausername487]

He wanted to get a good view of the monster action and I don't blame him

[@harrisonlorens3585]

Props? 😎

[@enchantedbananas]

He was ordered to maintain visual for aim assistance in ordinance delivery.

[@donk8961]

Cloverfield was one of the most memorable films from my years growing up. Everything from the promotion of the film to begging my mom to rent it, it was filled with mystery and anticipation. I still remember laying in bed after thinking about the horrible parasitic dog things from the subway. The big monster is horrifying but the small ones were the true terror to me. That lady exploding was AMAZING. It feels like art.

[@anguswaterhouse9255]

I love that at least one of these movies was not supposed to be a cloverfield movie they just retroactively shoved it into a completed movie meant to be entirely seperate

[@ThatGuySizzleMac]

I mean Cloverfield Lane was good, but when I found out it wasn't originally a Cloverfield movie I just was wondering why they bothered to shoehorn that into it since it would have worked very well on its own (Everyone is afraid of the monster/disease/apocalyptic-whatever thing outside, but the real monster was inside the shelter the whole time), and then Paradox came out and I just wanted to bash my brains into a wall...

[@TalentCaldwell]

@@ThatGuySizzleMac CLOVERFIELD PARADOX was also not originally Cloverfield related as well. It started as a script called “God Particle” by the writer of PARANORMAL ACTIVITY.

[@troin3925]

@@ThatGuySizzleMac I theorized that the thing that connects the series together was Tagruato (I theorized that due to a combination of the trailer for 10 Cloverfield Lane when it first came out, an interview at the time stating that 10 Cloverfield Lane took place in a different universe with the monster having no involvement and the ARG for 10 Cloverfield Lane. Though The Cloverfield Paradox took that alternate dimension thing very literally). Even up to the abysmal Paradox, my theory remained accurate to the end with the ARGs and easter eggs in the movies (though Paradox's ARG was very tiny and felt tacked on and only added a few things to the story). The alien twist in 10 Cloverfield Lane was actually spoiled in the ARG (though it never revealed that there was an apocalyptic invasion), it only focused entirely on John Goodman's character and expanding on him without revealing the twists related to his character in the movie.

[@ThatGuySizzleMac]

@TalentCaldwell i know lol and it would have been a lot better as is (which is what I was trying to imply lol). It was in the vein in the "Love, Sex, and Robots" style of shorts, but production and advertising yadda yadda

[@Espartanica]

​@@ThatGuySizzleMacI think Lane could have worked, IF there was a 3rd movie that tied them together WITHOUT multi dimension mixup shenanigans. Imagine a movie about living in a world where the aliens and kaiju are fighting and human survivors have to cross the war zone

[@TuShan18]

Well that was a rabbit hole I didn’t expect. It even had a thought provoking ending of how you can choose to enjoy something with what’s given no matter who says what. This might be my favorite video of yours.

[@ukotoa1639]

Imagine a Pacific Rim prequel of Trespasser’s attack on San Francisco styled like Cloverfield that would be my dream movie to make

[@robstewartstewart98]

Would have been a much better follow up to the first movie than the sequel

[@vengeance4566]

​@@robstewartstewart98 whats sequel? Theres no sequel bro, been waiting for the 2nd movie for years now

[@robstewartstewart98]

@@vengeance4566 oh, yeah you’re right. Sorry about that. Dang Mandela effect nonsense! Always annoying when I get alternate universe flashes around lunchtime

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

@@vengeance4566the second movie is barely connected tbh and its also good on its own

[@mfbobyle6771]

They’re making a pacific rim show that’s a prequel.

[@XenithflareGaming]

Cloverfield is still one of my favorite movies to this day. It's engaging and intriguing, it makes you care more about the human characters than the monster, and it's a pretty believable story all things considered. Plus it came out on my birthday so that was cool. I was also one of those people who thought it was a Godzilla movie and hey, we were only kind of wrong. Chronicle is incredible as well; I'm always torn between being disappointed we never got more content from that universe and being glad there wasn't a sequel to ruin such a great movie.

[@zero95lucky]

Did you see the interveiw chronicle's creator did where he broke down the origin of the thing in the caves?

[@murciadoxial8056]

watching cloverfield after watching enhanced 9/11 footage makes you realize that cloverfield is basically 'what if godzilla but 9/11'

[@Mustard_sock]

And then you imagine Charley Day being a kaiju groupy

[@obijuanquenobi1911]

But then you realize Godzilla already did 9/11 before 9/11 in 1998

[@flobarrerav7374]

This movie has forever stayed with me because my birthday is on 1/18 so seeing one of my favorite KZbinrs talk about it really does bring a tear to my eye

[@RedimusStudios]

In this video, we discover that JJ Abrams, a complete hack, is in fact a complete hack.

[@3takoyakis]

I knew he is a complete hack by reading Cloverfield paradox Then pointlesshub prove that he is an EVEN BIGGER HACK than what i expected

[@DexterousElk73]

This movie f***ed me up as a kid, especially during the dark tunnel scene. Gave me nightmares for days.

[@CallMeToasted08]

Saying “Alright, time to talk about 9/11” before immediately cutting to an ad break is comedy gold wether it was intentional or not lmao

[@willardtk]

the best part is I got an ad for Delta airlines

[@firstlast9846]

*They’re supposedly making a sequel to this movie without found footage* .. which tbh I think removes the movies’ charm. This movie was like “What If a Kaiju existed?” And it dealt with it in such a grounded way. They should do a TV show instead sorta like ‘World War Z’ and have it be a collection of stories of people and how life was changed after a Kaiju attack and the Infection that followed from the Parasites or something.

[@iambuhlockay8007]

In the age of smartphones and influencers, you could make a sequel to cloverfield that’s more of an anthology. The film could be several phones recovered by the government showing footage of a variety of characters with different perspectives on the monster attack.

[@felwalkr_94]

Like a mock documentary?

[@felwalkr_94]

@@iambuhlockay8007 maybe at one point, all the phones show a similar perspective of the monster roaring. They all combine into one image. Maybe that could be a part of the trailer for it.

[@iambuhlockay8007]

@@felwalkr_94ooooooooo that’s a great idea!

[@elmacorn5766]

I'd like to make a note in case anyone gets confused by that World War Z reference. WWZ the book is a collection of interviews from survivor's of the zombie outbreak. WWZ the movie shares nothing with the book except the name and zombies. The zombies in the movie don't even act or behave the same as the zombies in the book.

[@MauriciOwO]

I effing love this movie, but the part that has stuck with me the most is the whole "if the parasites bite you, you explode" thing, the way they framed that death while not even showing it directly still gives shivers

[@denisovan_the_menisovan]

Roanoke Gaming had a fun theory that the parasites originally did that to break through Clover’s thick skin for easier feeding.

[@scooterdescooter4018]

​@denisovan_the_menisovan i desire a crossover between Cody and papa Roanoke.

[@LocustEater420]

This is my all time favorite movie and easily my favorite video essay of it. Wild to hear the exact same nostalgic views and attention to details my friends and I have pointed out the hundred times we've watched it and easily the best explanation of the arg lore on KZbin. I still watch this one pretty often on rainy days and now watching this video after has kinda become a tradition. Please do a video for "The Host"(2006) by Bong Joon Ho

[@Lonequacker]

It's funny how JJ Abrams said the reason he wanted this made was because he wanted America to have it's own Godzilla. But Godzilla became Godzilla due to multiple films building up his legacy. Meanwhile since fucking 2008 every year a new article will come out with Abrams or Matt Reeves going "No guys believe us we're TOTALLY making a real sequel soon"

[@3takoyakis]

FR LMAO Second Cloverfield be like: UFO that has no attachment to real film Third film too When you read more on wiki, you realized Abram just bought TWO random ass film, slap cloverfield name into it and sleep on it

[@robstewartstewart98]

0:12 GAMERA! GAMERA! GAMERA IS REALLY NEAT! GAMERA IS FILLED WITH MEAT! WE ALL LOVE YOU GAMERA!!!!!

[@Ostro-goth]

Gamera is filled with what now

[@darrenheideman2546]

The 90s trilogy is phenomenal.

[@MinecraftWorld1954]

@@darrenheideman2546The stuff after that is pretty good as well

[@darrenheideman2546]

@@MinecraftWorld1954 The Netflix series?

[@mattugoji4321mogojiofficial]

​@@darrenheideman2546 yeah, it is pretty good

[@stonytrees8573]

“Today we are going to make slushies all you need is sugar, your favourite soda, ice and something we found at the bottom of the ocean”

[@3takoyakis]

Its so weird, but id take it than general lore that most SCIFI alien and godzilla ever have Radioactive or UFO shit is lame, mystery ocean sugar is the real deal!

[@MTart96]

Lmao

[@Taha-ik1pg]

I'm just gonna go with "there were 2 babies, the first one crashed in january, the second on in april/pre april. This means one of the babies went out of the ocean / ran a muck, and was taken down by the missiles, and the second one stayed in the ocean until it got big enough to be in cloverfield paradox." .....

[@YodaOnABender]

The cryptic marketing for this movie was absolutely insane and I genuinely don’t think you could do something like it nowadays with the way the internet has changed and the way every single trailer basically has to not only tell you the plot but also show you the entire movie condensed down to 2 and a half minutes

[@dragonturtle2703]

Clover probably tried to eat or teeth on the statue, then tossed it away in anger or disinterest. It was at least organism shaped.

[@aliceiscalling]

Yeah, that ramble was kinda funny. "Why is a toddler monster eating something that's not food???" Human toddlers munch on wooden blocks, rocks, sand, plastic toys, etc.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Cloverfield is awesome. At least the first 2 films are, to me. What’s funny is the ARG teams actually made the 2 films connected on the same Earth in a way that makes sense. The Aliens of 10 Cloverfield Lane (which had such unique designs too) were spying on the Cloverfield Sea Monsters. There’s thousands of eggs down there. A human Satellite came close to discovering the Aliens Satellite so they shot it down, which ironically landed in the Atlantic and struck open an egg prematurely, starting the first Film. And the person who discovered the Aliens Satellite? It was Howard from the second film. He new something had just declared an act of war on Earth. The New York attack was too far for the aliens as the local insects were now a threat to their crops, which caused the invasion years later. If you think this sounds cool, I highly recommend you watch the short film “MEGAN” it follows Howard’s Daughter on the first day of the alien invasion. It was meant to be a proof of concept by a Director passionate for a world that sets both films on 1 Earth. JJ Abrams never took interest. 😔 Then Cloverfield Paradox happened.

[@mrosskne]

buy an ad

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

@@mrosskne an ad for what?

[@ashuraomega1000]

​@@jakespacepiratee3740Wanna break from the ads?

[@3takoyakis]

I remember being hyped for the film, but when its still named God's Particle. I suddenly confused on the changes to Cloverfield LOL. Checked the story and its reception. LMAO what an utter garbage. A story about a group of astronaut tried to return to main universe after getting teleported to an Alternate Universe (AU) bcs AU are naturally wanted to kill them. But they portray half assed so its not enjoyable. Most of it are by human conflict. The movie definitely wont survive the box office. Then Abrams swoop in, rename the movie, put 2-3 scenes related to the first cloverfield and done. Also hes being lucky that it was COVID-19 so he put it on Netflix instead of Cinema I am so fucking pissed off with this decision because the weirdness of the film or clover reference arent even worthy of being in Cloververse. Also they ruin of my hype of God's particle film. ATP I knew Abrams is just in for the money. Slap his name or cloverfield on any franchise without even put lots of participation of filmmaking and done Abrams literally become the stephen King quote "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, shame on both of us"

[@RetroMagnus761]

But where does the Sea Bed Nectar come in?

[@Endershadow1]

Just discovered your channel. Binge watched like 5 of these in a row, Laughing so hard. I nearly pissed myself. So f*&king good!

[@ryanmack99]

28:29 deep sea drilling rigs actually move, so they could have rented an existing one stationed in the Atlantic, repurposed it and moved it in a month. I hope this fixes it :(

[@sloshed-rat]

The most unbelievable part of this movie is how fast the military mobilized and set up quarantine zones in Manhattan.

[@Scarleto]

Im not American, how fast did it happen on 911? Since that was the inspo I'd assume they worked off that and my impression was that it happened relatively quickly? So soon afterwards I can see it making sense it'd go even faster, given the explosions.

[@jackd6881]

There at least two Army bases near NYC (with one in brooklyn) and a bunch of arsenals, and a few naval yards, I font think it would be too hard to set up quarantine in NY.

[@FelipeJaquez]

It accidentally operated on the real life reality of the military being actually competent instead of the average movie version where they bumble around like the three stooges.

[@jackd6881]

@@FelipeJaquez With the exception of sending ground troops in there to shoot at that thing with small arms, no one would do that.

[@JoeNasr123]

If I had a time machine, the FIRST thing I'd do was prevent JJ Abrams from ever going into film. I won't hurt him, I'll just turn him into a mall cop or used car salesman, somewhere he can't do any damage to literally EVERY sci-fi franchise. Fucking mystery box, make it bigger, no need for logic. Who cares if it makes sense, right JJ?

[@liamphibia]

I freaking wish JJ had a different career path.🤦🏻

[@Finamajig]

I’ll go back in time and GET INTO the film industry with JJ so I can write actual satisfying endings for everything he makes. You wanna open that mystery box JJ? Don’t worry I’ll close it; I’ve spent more than enough time thinking about more satisfying endings for all the stuff you’ve made

[@aliceiscalling]

​@@Finamajig This would be a fantastic revitalization campaign. Just need to re-release all of his projects as the "complete edition," with endings and everything!

[@МаксБурый-р2ю]

​@@aliceiscalling this some atlus shit

[@Wiskaksk2]

JJ Abrams would definitely be a sleazy car salesman

[@jewstew]

if you love found footage and/or Cloverfield you gotta watch Norwegian Troll Hunter. i’m not saying anything about it cause i don’t want to spoil, all i will say is it’s obviously found footage, it’s on a $2m dollar budget that feels way higher, and is a great film that deserves to be recognized that i’ve always loved as a kid. watch it….. trust me.

[@troin3925]

That was an amazing film!

[@troin3925]

Fun fact: The director of that movie also directed The Autopsy of Jane Doe and surprisingly the Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark movie.

[@jewstew]

i’ve heard of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and Autopsy of Jane Doe sounds familiar, but i’ve never seen them. SSTD is on Netflix so i will definitely give it a try when i have time 👍