Clutchless Shifting Up and Down | Explanation and Demonstration | Honda CBR600rr Motovlog #41

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Master Yoshi

Master Yoshi

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Many people know of clutch-less up shifting, but did you know you can down shift as well? I explain how to do both in this video.
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@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
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@a.h.504
@a.h.504 4 жыл бұрын
Clutchless downshifting is much harder on the transmission, it's not the engine that gets damaged. Clutchless upshifting is totally okay and easy to get the hang of.
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
I can see how it's harmful if you miss it. Care to explain how its harmful even when done right?
@connor3288
@connor3288 4 ай бұрын
Clutchless downshifting is doing the same thing as an autoblipper, which come on some bikes from factory with warranty. As long as they is no meaningful amount of torque on drivetrain, as in acceleration or engine braking, the gears will change easily. If there is a meaningful amount of torque on the drivetrain, you either need to clutch, blip, or chop throttle, if you dont clutch and try to force a shift you could bend shift forks. Clutchless, up or down, puts more strain on gearbox due to the engine inertia. Because of this a slow revving/high inertia engine like a big cruiser will not appreciate clutchless shifting as much, it is going to be harder/more clunky than a fast revving dirtbike or sportbike.
@digitaldazzle5836
@digitaldazzle5836 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man that’s freaking awesome! I can’t wait to try this. I honestly had no idea this was possible.
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, it was a complete accident when I first did it lol. Thanks for the comment!
@kingtommytv2306
@kingtommytv2306 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video brother. Be safe out here
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother, you do the same!
@chanelcarpenetti3819
@chanelcarpenetti3819 2 жыл бұрын
The master Yoshi the man
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir!
@brandonpruss6605
@brandonpruss6605 3 жыл бұрын
Clutchless up-shifting is fine with any transmission or engine, I learned on a dump truck / semi. Down shifting on an in-line 4 can be done, by experienced riders only, and should not become common practice. Moto GP riders use the clutch, while down shifting, from beginner to top tier levels of competition. A clutch pad is meant to wear out, it preserves both the transmission and engine, it is a wear part.
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I should've emphasized clutchless downshifting can be done, but not necessarily should be done
@manbiteslife3110
@manbiteslife3110 Жыл бұрын
It does work with all motorcycles, have a cb500 with a vtwin works like a charm. I was just wondering if downshifts are bad. Because it made no sense how to rev up while still in gear
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi Жыл бұрын
Like all things, if done right, clutchless downshifting isn't bad. In the video, I should've streesed that even though it can be done, it doesn't mean they should be done. It requires so much finesse, cause like you said, how do you get the rev's up while in gear. But to answer your question, you still rev, but need enough front brake to keep you from accelerating.
@mindaugasluksas4862
@mindaugasluksas4862 4 жыл бұрын
Upshifts are so easy to do, ofc the downshifts are the tricky ones
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Very true! But like most things, once you get used to it, downshifts are easy too
@mindaugasluksas4862
@mindaugasluksas4862 4 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi i can sometimes do it but mostly when i atempt it im twichy , probably no harmony with the brakes while bliping
@Mackathne
@Mackathne 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindaugasluksas4862 I got it pretty easily after I tried for a little. It helps to be good at rev matching downshifts quickly with the clutch first. Then just give it the same amount of throttle that you would with the clutch and at that exact moment press the shifter down
@eastside6013
@eastside6013 4 жыл бұрын
Another vid in time :D
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
#MasterYoshiMonday! lol
@Nug-one87
@Nug-one87 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to keep your clutch disc's to not wear out so quickly I would recommend you not do this. There's a reason there is a clutch lever
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I should have made it more clear that it's possible, not recommended.
@manbiteslife3110
@manbiteslife3110 Жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi @nug4058 actually most people don't even know how to use their clutch either, so by letting it go suuuuper slow and smooth the plates are just grinding up anyways. And I'm sure the same amount of wear and tear happens or even less when you do it clutchless. Clutchless is a fraction of a second, and changing with a clutch does take a bit more time.
@876_vlogs
@876_vlogs 4 жыл бұрын
Idk how you not feel guilty cause I do 🤣🤣🤣 but it’s so fun
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you feel guilty my man!?
@SystemAdministrator1
@SystemAdministrator1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi Feels like it could be damaging
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@SystemAdministrator1 True true, especially if it doesn't happen smoothly
@CrafttingMan
@CrafttingMan 2 жыл бұрын
So not close the trottle but just the moment a split second after rolling the trottle back a little but sudden.
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
No sir, the throttle is closed. Roll the throttle all they way forward, and shift immediately after. For it to work smoothly, there needs to be no load on the transmission. if you're still on the throttle, there is still load.
@trueseull
@trueseull 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the beat playing ?
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Just a lil something I threw together. I make all the beats for my content
@SystemAdministrator1
@SystemAdministrator1 2 жыл бұрын
How many times have you messed up tho? I used to do it until I MESSED UP and felt like I banged the gears
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't felt like I messed it up, but on the same note, I really only ever did it after figuring it out, and to shoot this video. I failed to mention that even though it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.
@mustafashulqamy1844
@mustafashulqamy1844 4 ай бұрын
No autoblip?
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 ай бұрын
no, this bike has an ancient cable throttle lol
@mustafashulqamy1844
@mustafashulqamy1844 4 ай бұрын
​@@Master_Yoshi What model year?
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 3 ай бұрын
@@mustafashulqamy1844 2009 cbr600rr
@bikgfrruewr6003
@bikgfrruewr6003 2 жыл бұрын
So, u cut the throttle and shift simultaneously?
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
Technically the order is cut the throttle, then shift. It's so shortly after that it almost feels simultaneous, but it won't shift unless the throttle is closed.
@bikgfrruewr6003
@bikgfrruewr6003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi thank u
@iimgbillyrock
@iimgbillyrock Жыл бұрын
If you preload the lever do you still kick up on the lever or do you just let it slip into the next gear?
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi Жыл бұрын
@@iimgbillyrock it'll just slip into the next gear if you have enough pressure on it. It's one of those things you'll just have to get a feel for yourself.
@bikgfrruewr6003
@bikgfrruewr6003 Жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi thank u
@Bobbgeane
@Bobbgeane 2 жыл бұрын
Do u close the throttle completely
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 2 жыл бұрын
yes sir! that is crucial, if it's still open, there is still load on the transmission
@Bobbgeane
@Bobbgeane 2 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi thank u
@ohmygoshjosh0564
@ohmygoshjosh0564 4 жыл бұрын
Sweeeeeettt Edit: let me know when you're ready to ride!
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! Getting closer and closer to getting new tires! Don't let these videos make you think i'm trying to avoid you lol, I pre-record lots of vlogs to always have content to post!
@TrickRacing
@TrickRacing Жыл бұрын
Did you hear about the IRC electro mechanical autoblipper ? It can make our bikes blip and quick shift although we dont have fly by wire throttle
@Master_Yoshi
@Master_Yoshi Жыл бұрын
I have not until your comment. I looked into it and that's pretty cool stuff! Thanks for commenting
@TrickRacing
@TrickRacing Жыл бұрын
@@Master_Yoshi yessir. I don't know how we had no idea this whole time. It's suppose to be installed by someone with a dyno to dial it in which makes sense .
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