Why Climate Change Denial Still Exists In The U.S.

Despite overwhelming scientific evidence, some American politicians continue to deny that climate change exists, while others question the severity of its impact. But public opinion is shifting, and today even oil and gas companies publicly admit that climate change demands action. So why does climate denialism continue to influence U.S. politics? Here's a look into who is funding the movement, and why denial is mainly a U.S. problem.
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Why Climate Change Denial Still Exists In The U.S.

[@Kmn483]

"It's cold outside, that must mean there's no global warming." I ate today, that must mean there's no world hunger.

[@edg8535]

Al Gore's group tried to tell us that by the end of 2014 there would be no ice nor snow in the north, remember that? They had to change their tune when that prediction missed, but wonder how many millions it allowed them to rake in?

[@pythonner3644]

@@edg8535 Didn't you know Sea level is rising at a rate of about one-eighth of an inch per year. That's is clear indication of ice melting in north and south

[@kunalkashyap863]

@@edg8535 Yes they were wrong.... but when was that exactly?? The models become accurate over time. Climate science was relatively new in the 1980s. So you cant expect them to be spot on. Also there were multiple events that the models probably didn't take into account for like the volcanic eruptions releasing large amounts of So2, and the solar cycle.

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@edg8535 Al Gore wasn't just wrong, he was lying. Al has done more to promote climate denialism than both of the Koch brothers combined.

[@Audrius001]

@@kunalkashyap863 Their model is complete bs failure, they cant "predict" even past. CO2 is not magic "switch" which allow to terraform planets lol, CO2 optional level of EARH is ~800 ppm, it was even +2000 ppm and was still very green, its wrong theory, and not models are made by same humans, or few people who believe that they know how our climate works, but cant predict even weather +2 weeks in future, ye its a joke. They failing predict climate from ~1960. and btw CO2 can absorb just tiny spectrum of heat waves, 90% of it holds, guess who? - H2O, ye water vapor is main gas who keeps our planet worm, and data in the post whos very clear, CO2was always lagging behind the temperature.

[@orphanedmonkey]

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair

[@martinriggs4960]

@Halcon Serrano there is no problem

[@VoiceBoxWithOpposableThumbs]

Yes so maybe offering a targeted career transition program or job training program to these people working at the climate change denying think tanks and at the coal factories could help get them jobs in other industries.

[@TKUA11]

Yeah and why do you think solar panel and windmill money goes into funding climate scientist?

[@LindelweJNcube]

@Halcon Serrano to who?

[@unicorntomboy9736]

The long term effects and costs will be more costly to society and the economy than proactively tackling it

[@mushrifsaidin]

What I took away from all of this: If you back up ignorance with piles of money, you can start a revolution even against fact itself.

[@RoySATX]

Right, which is precisely how China got away with leaking a virus from a badly managed lab and then knowingly and willingly allowed it to be spread worldwide. Piles of Chinese money to the World Health Organization, Piles of Chinese money to Democrat politicians, piles of US money from Dr Fauci to the Wuhan Lab for gain-of-function, piles of money, money, money. And a population willing to accept it because of partisan politics.

[@xanthosparashis8819]

@@RoySATX We destroy this world day by day, and all that people care about is money and investments. Lets see how that matters when in a few decades time the world is beyond saving.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

@@xanthosparashis8819 It is probable already beyound saving..........It requires great amount of time combined with serious effort to make the big change......Europe tho is ahead of Us...........Trumpeters and such as He are holding us back.............Paul

[@peterjones4180]

@@paulholterhaus7084 Rubbish, Europe is simply further down the road of EU mandated economic self destruction , Germany is starting to wake up to the fact that renewables are a disaster and they do NOT want more, if you were worried about Co2 the obvious solution is nuclear , but as Co2 is not going to cause a global temperature catastrophe (it cannot because its ability to warm the atmosphere is very limited, assuming it warms the atmosphere at all). Your naievity is really destructive, the science does not and never has supported your stance. NOTHING is going on with global temperature that is in any way unusual.

[@anti-antifa4559]

@@RoySATX yup, everything is partisan nowadays and somehow science and China got dragged into this brawl of ballots aswell.

[@Magik1369]

"No amount of evidence will ever convince an idiot" Mark Twain

[@morrisparrish76]

Idiots?…you know who you are!

[@RemoteCamper]

YEAH!!! Also and no amount of taxes will stop the warming!!!!

[@DSN007]

​@@RemoteCampery does everything track down to tax n control in the discussion for americans?? there r ways how climate change can b fought without taxes

[@DellikkilleD]

@@DSN007 no, there literally arent.

[@DSN007]

@@DellikkilleD yes there are. how old r u? u still a kid?

[@joelhkbn]

It is strange that politicians in America are freely supported by corporations. In my country it is a criminal act of corruption.

[@SuperNesian101]

Yup! Same as mine

[@thekb1924]

American is corporation so you can buy anything as long you have the money. That's how the Chinese infiltrate united state, they brought the money and the greedy capitalist wanted profit.

[@UkranianStallion]

In USA, they're so capitalist, they even consider corruption normal.

[@chrisjohnson8976]

Yeah, it's depressing. Unfortunately, the people in charge make the rules, and the people who take big fat campaign contributions end up in charge. It's a flaw in the system that comes from the fact that we haven't updated our electoral process since steam power was the hip new thing. In the age of information, big, expensive, time-consuming political campaigns are no longer necessary. Considering that the current system worked for the people in charge, it makes sense that they're not interested in changing it so we limp along with the broken system we have, hoping that the upcoming face-plant won't hurt too badly.

[@KrishnaAdettiwar]

It’s not direct. Corporations can lobby politicians but cannot directly give them money. There’s a lot of regulation around what’s allowed and not allowed...so it definitely doesn’t meet the bar of what’s considered “corruption” ...but I def agree we need to get a lot more money out our political ecosystem

[@yogurt6405]

Everything denial still exists in the us

[@soonerjontheconservative636]

Including science denial. Fetus are not babies, men can be women, women can be men, masks work, mask don't work, there are multiple genders, climate change, need we hear more???????

[@ricktd6891]

Catastrophic anthropogenic global warming can't happen when 90 to 95 % of all history while life was on this planet was hotter.

[@ricktd6891]

@@soonerjontheconservative636 From 1945 to 1979 atmospheric CO2 shot up while temps fell, therefore CO2 does not "drive the climate."

[@Sharp931]

@@ricktd6891 The reason is sulfur dioxide pollution.

[@Sharp931]

@@ricktd6891 Life can survive. What about our civilization?

[@darrenspohn8376]

Many people don't realise there is a difference between climate and weather.

[@Mrbfgray]

Climate alarmist sure don't.

[@mysmallslice6606]

And that is the Republican and GOP stupidity.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

@@mysmallslice6606 Trump only increased that problem........He really should be institusionalized........Paul

[@ricktd6891]

It's "catastrophic anthropogenic global warming" caused by CO2 ( not "climate change" ) and it's false as proven by the fact temps fell from 2016 to now, all the while CO2 shot up like a rocket.

[@ricktd6891]

@@mysmallslice6606 I usually find the people calling other people stupid know the least about climate science or the global warming scam.

[@Whatshisname346]

2 things to take away from this: 1) Fossil fuel companies targeted US legislators and the US market because the culture dominance of the US means that climate denial can snowball into a global movement. Journalists in the English speaking world are incredibly lazy and uninterested in researching non-English language sources so if the industry builds a strong narrative in the US they can automatically build one in other English speaking countries even if other nationalities think climate crisis denial is nonsense. This can the be disseminated into the global narrative through English being the dominant global business language. 2) You would be incredibly dumb to invest in a business that spends massive amounts of its resources pretending an industry threatening problem doesn’t exist rather than using its expertise to diversify its business away from fossil fuels. Its an obvious sign of a lack of leadership and innovation; something which any smart investor should run a mile from.

[@sroberts605]

Er, hello, we in England funnily enough speak perfect English and have been trying to lead on this issue for decades, and despair at the US.

[@TheSimidog]

@@sroberts605 it terrifies me that the future of my grandchildren is in the hands of greedy, selfish, ignorant Americans.

[@TheSimidog]

Manchin earns millions from his interest in the coal industry. He's in the Democratic party to stop progress.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@sroberts605 Are you well-informed?

[@andyh8239]

It blows my mind that people are so stupid that they actually believe and fret that billions of people have warmed the planet a degree in 100 years. Oh no, its -7 instead of -8 outside. You people have lost your ability to think for yourself.

[@jellybeans3970]

Holy s*** !!! 519 BILLION USD in oil, gas and coal subsidies ?!! That’s insane 🤨

[@cece123pg5]

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[@cece123pg5]

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[@cece123pg5]

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[@cece123pg5]

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[@stevenlarson3316]

I believe a large part of this is actually tax breaks which is still considered a subsidy and is money the companies otherwise wouldn't have. There's plenty of argument for governments to subsidize energy. The cost of energy is reflected in almost everything that an economy produces. And that cost is born by the tax payers. But with that said I'm sure oil and gas get more than their fair share of subsidies.

[@shaneoku7]

"This ..is a snowball so its very cold out" 😂😂😂

[@lairdriver]

I died three times listening to him say that. That memory is seared into my mind. That was epic level stupidity.

[@nnoffuture]

As dumb as that was.... still doesn’t justify me paying a tax to breathe

[@vasopel]

@@nnoffuture there's a tax for breathing? anyway maybe if it was a way to breath CLEAN air :-)

[@nnoffuture]

@@vasopel 😂 of course.. you’ve already justified it. Hahahahhahahhaha

[@cece123pg5]

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[@lamyoongkit]

Remember the President speech in Wall-E? Imagine when that day comes...

[@dougpatterson7494]

I see Amazon seems the most likely equivalent of "Buy-N-Large"

[@bobhabib7662]

Mankind will likely nuke itself before then.

[@randomasiandude5949]

It's crazy how someone can look at the vast amount of proofs and data and then throw it all out of the window just cause they don't want to believe it

[@danstephensen9032]

Of course it's real. But you can't legislate it away either.

[@bigverybadtom]

@@danstephensen9032 I'm sure you believe Elvis is still alive as well.

[@jasonking1284]

@@bigverybadtom He probably also believes Michael Jackson is alive too and that they actually buried a mennequin to fool everyone...

[@morrisparrish76]

It’s amazing what you can’t see when you don’t want to!

[@notrius7754]

Isn't it ironic how im a climate change denier who did read the data and proofs, while you are a climate change believer who didn't read data and proofs?

[@user-li8cc9nk1h]

Some people still believe that Earth is flat

[@doomguy2.0]

Some people still believe china isn't committing genocide

[@abdullahshafiq9338]

@@doomguy2.0 Some people believe that the USA isn't committing genocide.

[@asdlkfjawoeijfldkf]

It's because people with lives don't want to buy into every opportunity that liberal extremists come up with to feel guilty about something. When's the next cry party to vent frustrations about math homework and not becoming prosperous?

[@asdlkfjawoeijfldkf]

@@abdullahshafiq9338 The USA can't commit genocide, its Government administrations can... which is why we have elections... that they don't have in China. The USA isn't committing genocide anywhere, you're just creating ghosts to justify your desire for violence.

[@doomguy2.0]

@@abdullahshafiq9338 never said it isn't, but atleast people are trying to stop that, but everyone just goes on with their day whenever china comes into question saying the US is doing something similar but not on the same level as if that justifies anything, you're Muslim, you should be standing up for your brothers in china, not trying to evade the fact

[@krejados1]

who remembers Mike Pompeo saying it's great that polar ice is melting so they can get in there and exploit the resources?

[@brucefrykman8295]

Who remembers our new "Energy Czar" stopping the construction of wind turbines in his own backyard?

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Yes, the Republicans talk out of both sides of their mouths, rejecting climate change but jumping with excitement about the melting of the Arctic.

[@peterjones4180]

The poles are returning to where they were a thousand years ago, nothing unusual going on in paleoclimate terms.

[@peterjones4180]

@Noah Smith You will need to list the claim you are disputing, remember just because you dont know much about the issue d.oes not mean that everyone is ignorant.

[@peterjones4180]

@adum50 I do not preach, (thats what BELIEVERS DO) i am only interested in the facts, not assumptions, not propaganda, not conjecture and above all I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SAVING THE PLANET, I AM INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING IT, as soon as someone becomes an activist they lose their ability to be objective.

[@Rnankn]

The traditionally conservative International Energy Agency in a huge report said that as of this year (2021) no new fossil fuel extraction projects should begin to meet emissions targets. Already several countries and corporations have disputed or refuted their findings and plant to carry on as before. This is to say, some one needs to require compliance, action once it gets worse will be ineffective.

[@peterjones4180]

But its clear Co2 is NOT a problem and never will be, so why should they not proceed ?

[@Rnankn]

@@peterjones4180 magical thinking is a defence of the emotionally immature. Or are you being paid per post?

[@peterjones4180]

@@Rnankn Hmmm magical thinking describes those who are BELIEVERS in the AGW hypothesis in contravention to all the evidence that demonstrates there are problems with it in whole or part. In fact the IPCC and its supporters are a perfect example of magical thinking where the political objective is MOST important and only science that supports that objective is supported. Where they can turn graphs upside down so that a substantial cooling can be turned into a substantial warming,s thats magic, its just not scientifically acceptable.

[@jeremyschulthess63]

@@peterjones4180 CO2 IS a problem. It is the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

[@peterjones4180]

@@jeremyschulthess63 Idiot, the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is WATER VAPOR at 97%.....Co2 is 0.04%, thats the difference between media propaganda and reality. Human emissions account for around 3.75% of that 0.04% or .0015%. Australia's emissions account for .0000195%. Human emissions are NOT cumulative they recycle in and out of the planet like non human emissions and in the same proportion. Get the picture ? Coupled with the clear evidence from the paleoclimate data, that demonstrates that Co2 NEVER drives warming its WARMING that drives up Co2 levels with an approx 800 year lag and higher Co2 levels NEVER prevent subsequent cooling. In only 15% of instances have temperature and Co2 levels risen at the same time. In 85% of instances there is NO correlation between Co2 levels and global temperature. The planet has had MASSIVE ice ages with atmospheric Co2 levels exceeding 5000 ppm.

[@grimsquirrels]

Humans do not care about 20 year consequences, only 20 second Tiktoks. We dug our own grave.

[@78anurag]

We have some time left, only 7 years though which a lot less considering how much time boomers have left.

[@mrbrown2351]

It’s sad honestly

[@5rings16]

There is nothing to worry about and no graves!

[@monkeybusiness2204]

The US is heading towards the wrong direction on many issues.

[@tylerrjohnson68]

Just because we not following the Oligarchs wants

[@TimEssDub]

The market will take care of it. /sarcasm

[@PhilippeOrlando]

@@TimEssDub and the planet too!

[@Bonanzaking]

@@PhilippeOrlando well there’s Tesla which has probably done more than a government has....

[@ricwol8273]

That's for dam shure.

[@omgpuppet]

Every scientist who dedicated their life to studying the climate: "Climate change is real" Politician who doesn't know scientific principles beyond the 6th grade level: "But it's cold out"

[@christianpearson7108]

actually there are many who deny it. there are probably more than we know, with black balling being a thing im sure they are scared to speak out.

[@omgpuppet]

@@christianpearson7108 "Deny" and "speak out" have no context in the scientific process when the data is irrefutable.

[@ricktd6891]

The Earth is actually historically cold right now, not historically hot, so saying it's cold out is basically the same thing. You don't need to be a scientist to know when you're being lied to. It's a global scam being used to push commie Agenda 21 on us.

[@ricktd6891]

@@christianpearson7108 No one "denies" climate change, we debunk "Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming" which is simple to disprove if you have half a brain. it's difficult for brainwashed people to see the truth though.

[@ricktd6891]

@@omgpuppet Yea the data is irrefutable, temps fell from 1945 to 1979 while atmospheric CO2 shot up like a rocket, therefore CO2 does not "drive the climate." CAGW debunked.

[@bethanybouley6679]

I know global warming/climate change is real because i live in the southwest USA, and i can see and feel for myself over time, its VERY real. The area i live is extremely vulnerable to this issue and is being hit first in the US, its affecting my life and the lives of everyone else around me including wildlife and ecosystems.

[@brucefrykman8295]

Too many people with too little water. The economics of desert life is not "climate change"

[@lunkerzinc.8718]

how did humans cause the ice age to end, maybe we can learn something from that. oh wait, humans don’t cause climate change, the earth does that on its own

[@ghjpkshdgtjdgvbzm]

@Exposing the Illuminati and Satanism hard to take you seriously with that username

[@Ejexion]

Experiencing local ecological changes in no way proves an overarching GLOBAL phenomenon. This argument is about as dumb as the snowball one.

[@jimcook8933]

That stuff spewing out the back end of jets overhead are now called "PERSISTENT CONTRAILS "how brilliant is that.Just carry on folks, nothing to see here.

[@morenofranco9235]

I read the first climate change warning in a newspaper in 1967 when I was 15. And watching every thing that has NOT been done to mitigate catastrophic climatic upheaval, leaves me under-whelmed. The majority of people cannot see the connection between climate change and food & water security, between climate change and economic upheaval, or between climate change and massive human migrations.

[@pissoffeachother]

Most people now are pointing to previous climate change through earth's natural processes, not taking into consideration we have no idea what actually caused some of the previous ice ages or warm spells. They say it is all natural and choose to ignore the rising co2 concentration in our air some even going as far to claim co2 is not a greenhouse gas. When simple at home experiments can prove it is. Democracy doesnt work in insane asylums.

[@peterjones4180]

So are you saying that Europe and the U.S are now covered by ice sheets ?, because thats what the same groups who push warming now were pushing in the 1970's. You are not correct climate change is NOT the issue under discussion we are discussing the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hypothesis and thats a different thing. Nothing humans can do will effect climate change we may be adding a little warming to the natural warming cycle we are in but based on out TINY Co2 emissions (less than 4% of the annual outgassing) but the paleoclimate data is very clear Co2 levels have NO correlation overall to climate or global temperature, we have had massive ice ages with atmospheric Co2 levels exceeding 5000 ppm, and substantial warming with Co2 levels less than 200 ppm. In 85 % of instances there is no correlation between temperature and Co2 levels except that its warming that drives up Co2 levels with a lag of around 800 years, NOT Co2 levels that drive up temperature, in only 15% of instances does temperature and Co2 levels rise together. Higher Co2 levels DO NOT prevent subsequent cooling.

[@peterjones4180]

Thats because THERE IS NO CONNECTION, !, READ THE DATA ! and stop listening to CNN. Global warming and global cooling and climate change are normal natural constantly ongoing earth processes. Humans are probably adding some warming to the natural warming cycle we are in, in line with our TINY Co2 emissions (less than 4% of the annual outgassing), global crop yields have increased, and NONE the other issues you raise are linked to the small increase in temperature observed AT ALL. So far climate and temperature and weather are within NORMAL long term variability. As climate and average global temperature are measured in averages over 30 year segments how on earth do you think you can isolate short term weather as climate ?

[@kentuckygreg4725]

I thought the big climate change story in 1967 was the coming ice age.

[@davidho1258]

climate change warning in a newspaper in 1967. Global Cooling you mean.

[@SaltySparrow]

Lack of education runs rampant.

[@thrillshow]

Not just a lack of education, a hostility towards it. Anti-intellectualism.

[@martinriggs4960]

leftists, progressives, democrats certainly are anti-logic, anti-science, anti-math. what else is new.

[@averageboi5195]

@James Bande no plants need a balanced diet like us, putting more co2 into the environment will only harm plants as it disrupts that diet when many also need water, & soil, not just co2. It has but it's a really huge problem when this much warmth shouldve happen in our millions of years, not 200, organism cannot adapt that fast, look at our coral reefs, droughts, rain forest, & sea levels. All caused by man. Can't find any proof for when it warmed 700 years ago but I did for when it warmed 2000 years ago. That was natural & went away over time as unlike 2000 years were not pumping billions of tons of greenhouse gases into our atmosphere 200 years straight. Yes many electric cars are damaging to the environment but not as much as typical petrol cars. This can be attributed to capitalism were these car companies will do anything to make a profit & even go against their promise. They will exploit workers yet no one looks at what they're doing behind the scenes. The best way to have clean electric cars is let them be made by the community where all resources are locally gathered & are made with the community's best interest in mind like a clean environment. Do you realize that the only people who are still propagating this conspiracy are oil execs who have everything to lose when the common man has everything to gain when contributing to their environment like with more natural parks, locally sourced water, riding your bike to work. None of this harms the working class besides people who have money to make off of it. You can say "what the oil workers then", they can always find another job with their expertise like working in more renewable energy sectors like wind or solar energy. Once you realize that climate change denial only benefits the elite then you realize it's real. Any action that only serves to help the elite is one we should resist & climate change denial is one of them.

[@yilongmusk9665]

@@martinriggs4960 y'all are losing,Biden 2020

[@monke823]

@James Bande The climate change that we have seen in the past hundred years would be normal after several hundreds of years not just 1 century. Electric pollutes less in the long span stop being stupid.

[@cantin8697]

It's scary that people simply don't care about the planet on which WE LIVE ON

[@spacecadet35]

What I find scary are the people that care so much, that they would destroy the planet in a misguided attempt to save it. They are right. They know they are right. They do not need facts or evidence, because they are right and everyone else is wrong.

[@TheBandit7613]

Not a single global warming prediction has been accurate. NOT ONE. The science is flawed. There is no human caused global warming, we are still coming out of an ice age. For most of the Earth's history, there has been no ice at the poles.

[@brucefrykman8295]

Damn the wind turbines, nature destroying monsters

[@spacecadet35]

@@brucefrykman8295 - A fairly accurate description

[@brucefrykman8295]

I make love to it daily....she's insatiable.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

I support free markets, which means I oppose fossil fuel subsidies. The energy market ISN'T a free market, and that's the problem. Fossil fuel companies have an unfair economic advantage.

[@georgelmothershed5120]

Please stop using motor vehicles, watercraft and aircraft. Put your lifestyle where your faith in your believing in climate change is

[@mastahfrederique1147]

@@georgelmothershed5120 That's simply impossible. I cannot get to work without my car. I cannot visit my loved ones without getting on a plane because they live 1,300 miles away and that is the closest family I have. We need to develop cleaner modes of travel, but we can't expect people to just completely upend every aspect of their life. That's not possible or reasonable.

[@kevinsamuelsghost685]

All because oil and gas companies don't want to change their ways smh 🤦

[@peterjones4180]

Do they really let you vote, the level of ignorance amongst the population on important subjects never ceases to amaze me.

[@bryanrivera1211]

If it weren't for people's greed, we could make a better world for everyone.

[@swoopy287]

True indeed

[@kempkennedy3542]

Who's greed in particular and how? A person's greed of wanting to stay warm in a freezing winter? The 'greed' of them wanting basic electricity? The 'greed' of them wanting to be able to travel around this globe? Hmmm... Ok, fair enough. But where does your self righteous 'non-greed' fit into this? Do you not burn logs or turn on a heater in the winter? Do you refuse travel based on 'world destroying' energy? Please do go on so we may all learn from you, who I'm sure takes no advantage of the energy that has enabled you to survive long enough to write us all a YT lecture.

[@bryanrivera1211]

@@kempkennedy3542 Wtf are you talking about? An example would be to transition to green energy sources like wind, solar, geothermal, hydroelectric but some politicians in power get bribed by fossil fuel industries to halt the progress, and to lift restrictions on fossil fuel industries.

[@kempkennedy3542]

@@bryanrivera1211 Just where do you think the materials from those batteries and wind turbines come from? Your local Best Buy? They are mined, digging in the earth using heavy tools that require fossil fuel. Just the facts.

[@Sonnenblume997]

@@kempkennedy3542 so ur basically saying let's destroy earth just so we can have luxury, who tf cares about future generations anyways? I AM MORE IMPORTANT

[@Jason-fm4my]

It's political. Conservative politicians can't say "climate change" is legit without also vindicating general liberalism, even if the majority of conservatives fully believe in the idea of climate change.

[@iFeelGlee]

they dont care about liberalism, they care about oil lobbying.

[@bradleejones9959]

Stupidity! Man Made Climate Change is a Power Grab! A money making machine for politicians. Carbon Tax Contracts that rich political DONERS don't have to pay but everyone else does. Proof! Got just three minutes? kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5PGeYmomciooLM To deny this is to be a Science Denier, aka, a Hypocrite!

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

Nothing liberal about authoritarians.

[@kckallup906]

Let's BURN the Arctic because if there's always a "Plan B," then there's almost likely a "Planet B."

[@goldsilverandiamonds]

Man made climate change is a lie and a scam. Sure the climate is changing it always has since day one. The most dramatic changes in climate happened long before mankind was even around. The left is trying to use natural occuring climate change for political gain and tyrancial control over humanity. The left has been trying to do this for decades. First wilth global cooling and the new ice age of the 70's and 80's then when that was proven a lie it was the man made hole in the ozone in the late 1980's and early 1990's. Then that was proven a lie. Then the left shifted to "man made global warming" in the 1990's to 2016. Until that was proven to be a lie too and they ditched the term man made glibal warming. Then in 2016 or so the left re-named "man made global warming" to the vague and broad term "climare change". Something the planet has had since day one and will to its last day. What the left is doing is dispicable, disgusting and evil. Many say the use of violence against the left is acceptable, resonable and needed. For their lies, power grabbing, greed and dishonesty on climate change. Seems for now people have yet to resort to violence against the liars but how long will it be until a purge of the liars and marxists begins?

[@dumdumbrown4225]

It’s the same in Australia, Canada, Europe (incl Nordic nations & the UK) - most people simply lie when interviewed. No Aussie family will give up its fossil fuel lifestyle. People just make fashionable statements and then support coal power stations, fossil fuel exports and the destruction of the Great Barrier Reef. People in the USA are just more outspoken whereas in the rest of these countries the focus is to subvert and blame India or China - never a word about OPEC nations or nations that house the world’s largest oil corporations.

[@ahmedzakikhan7639]

Because the nations you mentioned have huge industries based on natural resources, much of which are exported, while India and China are importers of energy, not exporters.

[@darylephillips6778]

Even the current Australian government is too invested not to see Climate Change . Yet climate change has cost Australia billions already.

[@jasonstevenson110]

@@darylephillips6778 Rubbish - name your source for that claim? Australia contributes 1% of global emissions and has added far more wind and solar as a percentage of total generation than any other OECD nation. Australia does not have the luxury of 10-20% of nuclear in the mix to firm unreliable renewables and grossly inadequate backup options like batteries.

[@skyoneasassin]

In just the span of today I have watched 2 documentaries on KZbin one of them covering the unbelievable drought in California that even has rural farmers admitting that climate change is real and something must be done about it and the other a documentary about a housing crisis in Miami being caused by ocean sea levels rising to the point that coastline areas are flooding and people are basically being flooded out of their homes and are moving inland. The fact that anyone in America could deny climate change at this point is beyond Me and truly shows the unstoppable ignorance of our society

[@grindupBaker]

Well, there's some money involved so what a surprise and how unpredictable that thing that's beyond You. Compare with another physical science topic that's only about the entire Universe, photon a wave ? photon a particle ? with bods who install drywall for a living raging & frothing about that, U.S. Americans phoning Einstein threatening to trim his hair, perm & highlight it if he don't stop it with the hoaxing. Same thing every time with the physical sciences.

[@drymango3544]

It’s fake

[@johnsheppard4143]

Local / Regional events are catastrophic but do not point to Global Warming / Climate Change. These have all happened before around the world at different time frames and will continue to happen. California's drought is cause by taking so much water from the aquifers to the point where the land is sinking. The Earth is a living breathing entity that changes over time. Wind patterns, jet stream, heat from the sun, tilt on the earth's axis. Tides, position of the moon... Look into the Movie - Planet of the Humans... there you will find some interesting facts about this fraud called climate change. Co2 in the atmosphere is .004 % that is a sliver on a pie chart and we as humans have contributed to maybe .00016th % of it.The atmosphere is mainly made up of water. Interesting how humans think they can affect the giant sized earth with a little bit of carbon. More like we have been coming out of the last ice age and except for a few periods of cooling the planet is still warming up. Want to question something... ask why are they burning trees for energy. We all know trees capture carbon yet there are 178 Biomass plants in the USA that burn tree, forest refuge after they clear cut the forests, garbage, sawdust and anything they can get their hands on polluting and adding more Co2 to the air that cars causing asthma, cancer etc. in the communities they are in. Ask how much fossil fuels are used to build Wind farms, Solar plants and electric cars. That's not going to green our planet or reduce carbon levels in the atmosphere. You need to look at more KZbin videos and other research to get a better impression on those pushing this agenda, Yes those who are getting rich and you are not. Scientists have been forecasting Doom & Gloom for a hundred years and not one of those predictions have come true...do your own research!!! There is No Truth in Propaganda.

[@chrisparrish6229]

Of course it’s real. ThenOxnard plain has great soil because it was an ancient flood plain. There are “rivers” all over California that are dry my whole life Long ago it was wetter here But that changed BEFORE fossil fuels and cattle feed lots. The ancients warned us it’s cyclical.

[@peterjones4180]

You idiot NO ONE denies the reality that climate changes climate change is a normal natural constantly ongoing earth process thats been ongoing for billions of years. Our species has been around for around for 320-350000 years we did NOT start the climate changing and we cannot stop it. But that is NOT what the issue is about at all, which just demonstrates how little you know on the subject, the issue is The Anthropogenic Global Warming hypothesis and is a completely different subject. I take your point, why read lots of scientific papers and books from both sides of the issue when two u Tube documentaries can tell you everything you need to know. After all U Tube documentaries are delivered under oath arnt they ? I mean they are never wrong about anything are they ? I mean really they let YOU vote ? Sea levels have risen and fallen over many time frames, they ROSE around 130 m at the end of the last glaciation around 12000 years ago, on a smaller scale they rise during warming and drop during cooling approx 4500 years ago sea levels dropped by a meter + again , they have risen overall since but STILL have NOT reached their previous level. All this is normal and totally within normal variation. Apparent sea level rise or fall may not be related to sea level at all, coastlines rise and fall as a result of their geology, the north of the U.S and Canada is still decompressing after the melting of the ice sheets and many coasts are rising, in Florida for a variety of reasons many areas are SINKING, coupled with a rather normal sea level rise. Nothing unusual there at all, sea level rise driven by warming will be equivalent to that which occurred during the Medieval warm period.

[@bootup856]

i believe the oil guys are not ready to give up their throne so easily.

[@litestuffllc7249]

they don't they have money to invest; fossil fuel is running out. Saudi Arabia owns 20% of the US economy alone.

[@anonkasper7937]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6HIiIqbh7tqZ7s

[@stevenlonien7857]

Oil bankers that wash electric trucks and cars windshields are set for a life they chose.

[@stevenlonien7857]

Mayby that betz limits dude had the land spewing oil needed servants to eliminate most of the winds and tides makes since that new invention banned by law of oil greed? till ? Nothing more powerful showed up again. panic is in play.now.

[@peterj7631]

Hey dummy. Want a throne? Just go tell someone that an oil guy said something mean to you and hurt your feelings. The woke mob will have him fired, and give you the job!

[@TheGeorgeous]

Because of rupert Murdoch and his coal Investments. It's worse in Australia

[@Alftura]

Come here to say this! you have no idea. Its really bad in Australia. Much worse that the US. Americans have no idea what real climate change denial is really like. Come to Australia.

[@harsht6583]

Adani sends you love from India 😆

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@Alftura Me who has a decade of experience with Climate Denial: “Damn it these darned dinklebergs, cant they just do some scientific research!!!!” Also me, hearing this and a blatant masochist: “I- uhh- Challenge accepted? I always wanted to live in Sydney.”

[@TheRedMooncorp]

@@_Andrew2002 From all I heard Australia is a champion of dodging climate responsibility, the australien government threatened to bust the Kyoto protocoll unless the infamous australia clause was added, keeps massively subsidising mineral industries and to my knowledge hasn´t proposed any serious plan to cut emissions, which is something even china did. Oh and pollutions per capita are pretty much the highest among notable countries

[@TheGeorgeous]

@@_Andrew2002 I wish i was wrong on this one, but sadly im not, australia has the bigger problem of being overly dependent on coal exports which makes the denial more common place and great for business. If you want want to see the propaganda take place first hand, go no further than watching videos of Sky News Australia, owned by Rupert Murdoch

[@qjtvaddict]

Jail the deniers or institutionalize them

[@cbly]

who will pay for that? saving the planet is expensive enough

[@peterjones4180]

Or we could jail the simple fools who think they are saving the planet but who are in fact assisting the corporate and political elite to advance their malthusian plan for the planet for crimes against humanity, (that means YOU) The science has NEVER supported your propaganda induced perspective , thats why many scientists keep pointing that out and why many simply reject what you believe as a matter of faith, because they are focused on the facts.

[@qjtvaddict]

@@peterjones4180 so you admit zoning laws are nonsense ok Exxon bottom boy

[@ragnarrkasparsen2118]

"It's warm outside, that must mean there's global warming." I didn't eat today, that must mean there is world hunger. Same logic as Kmn483 used, except i'm going to catch flak for it.

[@Graeberwave]

The conservative reaction to climate change can be summarily explained in the COVID response: 1) it's not real b) Ok, it's real but it's not a big deal f) Ok, it's a big deal, but it's kind of inevitable, so what are we supposed to do about it? Just live your lives.

[@carnosinehobs7759]

People who act like that...... they are begging for a slow and painful death.

[@ritwikreddy5670]

@@carnosinehobs7759 They aren't going to live long enough to experience the effects anyway.

[@litestuffllc7249]

how are they linked?

[@fuxan]

Sad part is they have benefitted from essentially stealing life from others and will outlive others even if they live like assholes. They will just keep at it. What we need is a war of attrition against these rich assholes and make their lives hell beyond comprehension.

[@BenGrem917]

Yep. When they finally can't deny the reality anymore they're going to throw their hands up and go, "Who knew? Who knew it would be this bad? Who knew it was real? Not our fault! Too bad, so sad."

[@maxhochdorfer3069]

I really don't like how the term conservative is used in the US. Like, why the hell should it be "conservative" to destroy the environment, when conservatism is about preserving things?

[@blameyourself4489]

As a European, when I hear the word Republican, I think I almost react as allergic as when a Republican or someone from the GOP hear the word, Socialism.

[@river13]

Preserving power and money kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJapY6Whrt13f9E

[@zedantXiang]

These word lose their meaning, kinda like communism. When everything bad was communist.

[@sudajared]

Well, the google definition of "conservative" is.. 1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values. 2. (in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

[@maxhochdorfer3069]

@@sudajared 1. Yes, conservatives are holding traditional values. But in this case that value used to protecting the environment, not destroying it. As the video showed, this only changed because of the lobbying of the oil companies, which is not really a preserving of this value, rather the opposite. 2. It is really interesting to me, how this part didn't even show up, when I searched for a definition on google. That is why i said "how the term us used in the US".

[@AngelRodriguez-zt6nv]

Flooding can wash away roads and bridges, fires can destroy homes and construction has to be done wisely to avoid failures and destruction 🙄

[@thomasjones1170]

I think 99.99% of people could care less about a change in society to clean energy. The only issue is the complete lack of a real plan. Pouring money into something with no result isn't a plan. Make a real plan and then come back. Otherwise, stop ✋

[@LanceBerylDev]

What I find most disturbing about humanity, is they’re typically more concerned about being right, than they are about doing right. -They frame what is selfish as necessary or a standard practice, instead of putting forth the effort to do what’s good -not just for them, or those who support them, instead for the benefit of all and the greater earth. - What baffles me even more is how quickly people are to impulsively respond with anger, rage, even in the comments as we speak, so dedicated to being right, framing vanity, selfish actions, or those carrying out these actions as being virtuous or true, instead of actually doing what’s wholefully right even at their own expense; that is what righteousness is, but that’s not what the majority who claim to follow it often do.

[@MichaelAChristian1]

These people will bam gasoline and make it impossible to buy MEAT for your family or pay Heat but you don't want to be called antisciencd by them? They threaten to burn people's houses who speak against global warming agenda then wonder why people agree in Europe.

[@jeremygibbs7342]

I couldn't agree more

[@seafooddiablo5686]

Well given poor people depend on cheap energy far more than the rich who can afford alternative solutions its easy to say be like me and use 0 fossil fuels when one is rich enough to use said alternatives

[@MichaelAChristian1]

@@seafooddiablo5686 They just got saying they will "BREAK YOUR WILL" and destroy poor I guess, kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKCkfWucg7GnZ80 while they fly around in private jets exempt. Sick.

[@deejayimm]

Electric vehicles made up less than 1% of cars sold in 2019, yet billions of dollars in our taxes were used to force Automotive companies to make them, and to incentivize people to buy them, and install chargers. I personally do not like my servants controlling me. If you think politicians in the United States of America are not supposed to be our servants, then you don't deserve to call yourself an American.

[@BryantMitchell]

"It's awful difficult to convince somebody of an idea that would cost them their jobs if they were to embrace it"

[@roryh2241]

Which is important to understand, this is why we can’t have a perfectly idealic world

[@harrisonwells4600]

Hmm, I think it a question is, letting thousands of people starve or burn oil.

[@thomaszhang5437]

@@harrisonwells4600 Or we could create jobs by investing in clean energy and then investing in a gradual turnover of fossil fuels. The first thing we could do is to incentivize this turnover by implementing a carbon tax and reducing federal fossil fuel subsidies. This would push the oil and gas giants to start investing more in clean energy, thus creating new jobs.

[@harrisonwells4600]

@@thomaszhang5437 To create something is very hard. It's not always about funds. It about a genius getting inspiration. It is not the funds that bring innovation but the lack of it. Elon Musk had limited funds while Nasa had billions on sitting. It was Elon who thought of commercial space travel while doing so he solved many problems Nasa faced. Funds help but they are not the driving factor for innovation. It is possible to sunk millions in research and gets nothing. While it is also possible that someone can find a solution just with a 10 dollar project.

[@litestuffllc7249]

that is true especially if it turns out to be a baseless idea.

[@dayziem]

This is why humanity was destined to go extinct

[@tuneaddict2655]

Because of climate activists. Activists have a strong tendency to cite the most alarming studies. People have seen the “science” be wrong for years and years not realizing actual scientists were being misrepresented by activists. And still are. Actual scientists will tell you it’s an issue that needs to be addressed but they won’t tell you that the world is going to fall apart any time soon.

[@justsomeguy2825]

This is the same old song and dance as the tobacco industry, and leaded gasoline, as well as the holes in the ozone. Corporations knowingly endanger survival of the human race, and commit to sowing dissent in order to quell public opposition to their business interests.

[@litestuffllc7249]

Yes or maybe they are just smarter. They own everything.

[@dragonrider269]

Life is about survival.

[@litestuffllc7249]

@@dragonrider269 I think so; yet people do not want to really do anything to enhance it on their own; most want government to be nanny. People could carpool in mass; cutting traffic and energy use for commutes by 75% , they mostly drive alone. They eat too much, impacting themselves and all others. They speed; taking higher risk and reducing mileage; they even target the wrong gas to try to reduce warming, and increase the wrong ones. If you remove one pound of SF6 you've taken out the equivalent of 25,000 lbs of CO2; instead this gas needed to expand the electrical grid is being increased. One pound of NO2 is equal to 200 lbs of CO2. One pound of Methane is worth 86 pounds of C02. Instead they get diverted into an anti capitalistic passion against fossil fuel producers; rather than focus on the most effective means of reducing temperature. And this all presumes they even should be worried about this over other issues. Yes those capitalists know something; they know they can sell all they want because people are not going to reduce their energy consumption on their own, and other sources will not force them to reduce output because demand is rising; and their reserves are dwindling. Who do you think owns Wind and Solar? Why are they more touted than Geothermal Hydro and Nuclear? Because they can own Wind and solar; they can't easily buy publicly owned sources. These folks are like the fox guarding the chicken coup and we are the chickens.

[@kevinh4471]

These old politicians need to go. They have old ways of thinking and don't believe in change or science.

[@ntuduy]

actually, they believe in science. they just dont give a f*ck about other's lives as long as they get money, hence promoting those climate change denial research.

[@pancakes3250]

I have a different stance. 1.2 million fossil jobs, and private property is at stake. Easy to purge them, if your livelihood is ok. Thiers wont be. No government regulation, without compensation. For America, stop global warming, the capitalist way. Buy expensive renewable energy, as an individual. Capitalism them out. Its fair, instead of regulation without compensation. Please dont judge the politicians. Everyone scared to live worse, and want to live better. Anyone for sale. If you wont buy expensive renewables, when its 'doable', then so are you.

[@tylr3669]

What r you talking about? The old politicians remember what the propagandists were doing 3 decades ago...and it was "peak oil" for the 5th time and global cooling and overpopulation. This isn't even an original idea.

[@markrodriguez4879]

Oh, they believe in science. Science don’t pay like big oil, big coal, or fracking.

[@peterjones4180]

You idiot, science is not to be believed it is to be DEMONSTRATED, and on this subject what has been demonstrated so far is that most scientific results regarding global warming are ENORMOUSLY UNCERTAIN, some are conclusive though, and one of those is that the AGW hypothesis is WRONG, it has been measured and tested over decades by accurate undisputed methodology, and demonstrated to be wrong, the equatorial tropospheric warming never occurred, therefore NO CLIMATE CATASTROPHE IS COMING.

[@johnconnor7501]

I think having 2 different points of view is normal. We should not label one side “denial” and censor them.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Nobody is censoring anything but misinformation and disinformation.

[@johnconnor7501]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 yea, DO NOT censor ANY information. Let us decide what the truth is by hearing all sides. It’s what I am saying.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@johnconnor7501 So if a group similar to Qanon goes on social media and convinces millions that Donald Trump is raping children and should be killed, that's okay with you? And when people take justice in their own hands after being convinced of the rumor's veracity and actually do Trump in? Surely you have a line that shouldn't be crossed. Similar lies and propaganda prompted millions of Germans in World War II to ostracize and punish Jews. The Germans never heard any defense of Jews because they were allowed only to listen to or read Hitler-controlled media. We have a similar situation when millions listen only to left-bashing Fox News and never expose themselves to more balanced reporting. Fox on-air personalities like Carlson and Hannity are poison to the country's unity. A constant demonizing of everyone and everything on the left not only distorts reality, it convinces some to break the law, as we saw with the insurrection. Promulgating lies is not benign, as history has shown. Should an influential personality be allowed to convince millions that masks don't reduce viral transmission when over a dozen peer-reviewed medical studies show that they do? Tucker Carlson did just that. And how many of his audience members eschewed the wearing of masks because of his influence? How many ended up with Covid? How many died because of his inaccurate reporting?

[@bravecaucasian]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Give it a rest, rabbi. Go whine to someone who still believes your narrative full of lies about God's real people.

[@user-ue3pl2gf4o]

I don’t understand why people think thousands of pounds of black smoke going into the atmosphere isn’t bad for it.

[@peterjones4180]

What black smoke are you referring to ? Co2 is invisible at atmospheric temperatures.

[@ringsaphire]

"Strategic ignorance", both willful and not, is a genuine academic field of study and explains plenty of similar behaviors quite in detail.

[@peterjones4180]

And those promoting global warming are certainly guilty of it. EG the AGW hypothesis was put to the test over several decades by the accurate measurement, of the equatorial troposphere using radiosondes (well over of a million times) the AGW hypothesis was CLEAR, Co2 would evaporate more water vapor which would raise warming and create a warming water vapor feedback loop (always an unlikely outcome as we have had Co2 levels much higher than now in the past and NO runaway warming) this would be shown to be happening by the formation of an equatorial tropospheric hot spot, the hypothesis was to be testable using the formation of the hot spot and was supposed have reached +.6 Deg C by around ten years ago. The temperature data gathered over that time was conclusive NO WARMING in fact it cooled slightly, (ten years later and still no warming now) the AGW hypothesis was put to the test and it FAILED, the results were written up, peer reviewed and published in a scientific journal. No warming = NO GLOBAL WARMING CRISIS COMING, climate has LOW sensitivity. All we are left with then is the SMALL amount of warming that can be produced by Co2. The lead scientist who developed the AGW theory acknowledged the cooling. So was the world rejoicing, did all governments and media trumpet these conclusive uncontested and accurate scientific results, did they, bollocks, apart from the professionals and people with an interest like me. Almost no one is aware. Strategic ignorance reigns, any accurate scientific study that demonstrates problems in whole or part with aspects of the global warming hypothesis is SIMPLY IGNORED. There is an example in Australia where a scientist (an AGW supporter) working on drought published a paper and presented a lecture on his results, (i was not there but a friend filmed the lecture) his results were clear there is no link between global warming and drought. He repeated this several times during the lecture and prefaced its first mention by saying you will be surprised to hear me say this but...... There was No problem with this and i heard nothing more for months UNTIL........it came to the public's attention via TV news that this work had demonstrated this fact. Then suddenly he was on TV looking emotionally beaten and went through a CULTURAL REVOLUTION style self criticism, saying just that I MISSPOKE, now its clear he did NOT misspeak, as he stressed this point several times during the lecture, and that was absolutely in line with his results. His paper was not withdrawn and his research is accurate, so there is no reason for his confession. The reasons for his voluntary ? public humiliation are clear, someone in a position of power above him, had no problem with other scientists seeing his results, BUT were determined that the public should not know, it was clearly their intent that the public should believe the OPPOSITE of what his research revealed. This is VERY common. So yes wilful strategic ignorance abounds and MOST of it is coming from global warming crisis promoters.

[@peterjones4180]

Yep i see strategic ignorance ALL the time , in those believers of the AGW hypothesis cult of temperature crisis. They have NO understanding of our paleoclimate temperature history and what that reveals about the current normal temperature swings and LOW short term warming peak temperatures.

[@ringsaphire]

@@peterjones4180 what's your job/specialty/employer again? somehow, when you see one side would quite litteraly lose their jobs if they happen to not disagree with absolutely everything promoted by the other side there is no way their opinion may be biased at all hahahaha also, writing in capitals DOes NoT maKe your ArgUMeNT better, it just makes you noisy :p Wow, wow, wow, wow Using "the loudest guy must be right" strategy is tight! It's super easy, barely an inconvenience! Indeed! a bit too easy I think. Ps; As you can see I've spent a couple days binging Pitch Meeting hahaha

[@peterjones4180]

@@ringsaphire Hmm, i thought you may have been taught this in communication, its called emphasizing the point , voice modulation does not work on written posts. In a long response significant points often get lost in the mass of communication. The people who are losing their jobs are many scientists and bureaucrats whose work, demonstrates in whole or part problems with the AGW hypothesis. If only you had spent a few days studying the actual science and the politics surrounding it you probably would have more accurate grounding in it than you seem to.

[@ringsaphire]

@@peterjones4180 the use of disses for discredit, combined with lack of actual verified sources, binary thinking exposing absolutes positions that are in fact suppositions... yes, your mastery of communication is on point, except for the contents. Therein lies the problem; but it's interesting to spectate up to a point.

[@martinbelfort5113]

it's no wonder in a country where the president is at a middle school level

[@klaasdykstra8127]

You must be talking about Biden huh,he will take America down with him with his dumb policies,be careful what you wish for,this is all playing into the hands of the Chinese,who are building a huge industrial base with cheap reliable power while we buy renewables from them at enormous expense,with absolutely no reduction of co2 gasses overall,and you can't produce steel,aluminium,or produce anything much with renewables that don't work at night and only 20 %efficient during the day,American corporations have allready moved most jobs to Asian countries,this will send the USA into depression!

[@peterjones4180]

I assume you mean Biden.

[@MS-st1zb]

He made president at middle school level and I can see you are a genius that must be pretty insulting that he made president before you.

[@johnsharp2162]

gotta be talking about joe!!!

[@WadcaWymiaru]

@@klaasdykstra8127 Biden is NOT the president, but usurpator!

[@fenn1729]

OK, it might be a bit of a long read, but things like the various IPCC or WMO reports should give you a good overview you can check by yourself if you're curious about what climatologists know and are worried about. It's tricky to get the picture of complicated (and polemical) subjects such as the climate, but it's not impossible if you have patience.

[@oberonpanopticon]

“[After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car’s temperature has changed before” - Randall Munroe

[@altctrldel26]

Perhaps they'll start believing when Louisiana starts to vanish from the map.

[@martinpoole1451]

But then they will put it down to "erosion".

[@LexieLPoyser]

And Florida.

[@noneshere]

Bah, not going to happen. And that place is full of leaky offshore ships. They got to be the most laxed EPA standards in America. Theres a major oil pipeline into southern US just off the coast there. Its called "the loop" and its well guarded by the government.

[@panchovillaMSK]

Holland has been dealing with rising water levels for centuries and have adapted. I'm sure Louisiana will be able to as well.

[@tonys9413]

@@panchovillaMSK No, big difference in intelligence and education between the Netherlands and Louisiana. P.S. I live in the US.

[@paulson_huynh]

In short: Climate change gets in the way of big business

[@constantinosschinas4503]

and your brain functions, as well.

[@litestuffllc7249]

Not at all; who do you think owns these green replacements.. they can't own nuclear or hydro or geothermal; those are owned by the public; but they can own and do own solar and wind; and that is why you hear about them constantly.

[@5rings16]

Right! Liberals and Globalists would like to control big business, and its not happening. We on the right, have won! And we have the courts.

[@el1300]

The real explanation: People living in US doesn't have much first hand experience on disasters brought about by climate change as compared to other parts of the globe, despite contributing more or less majority of the carbon footprint . In my country, no one disputes the climate change, as we suffer heavy losses of both lives and economy each year and grown tired of it. Resilience has always been our mantra, its almost sickening. We take the losses but we put the blame to no one else but humanity itself as we are self aware of the notion of collective contribution. Yet some people just doesn't believe in climate change despite tangible and tragic losses. The truth is, there is an imbalance of carbon footprint contribution in the world, and it is the superpowers, including the US, that lived extravagant lives that causes much of the footprints. The world is greener literally on the other side and it is the effort of your ancestors that brought you this prosperity. However, the world works in such that a price must be paid; no resource is free. And we and my people are the price. Sad...sad.. At least people must feel responsible for this tragedies as the way we do.

[@bravecaucasian]

Anti-Caucasian nonsense.

[@skytrip5273]

Can somebody explain why the glaciers that used to cover half of America melted long before the industrial revolution?😁 or why the Sahara desert goes from wetlands, and sub tropical to desert every 20,000 years. I already know.

[@YZ-ng5wn]

“It’s a snowball, so it’s cold out”😂 Climate change/global warming:destroyed

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

"Climates not weather" than the same people "All these hurricanes and tornado's are climate change."

[@YZ-ng5wn]

@@OutSideTheBoxFormat climate change is the cause of weather changes, we see more hurricanes, more tornadoes, more wildfires year after year and what do you think it’s a hoax? It’s fake? It’s natural? Climate change is real. You think these scientists studied this their whole lives and just made it up? Pulled it out they ass?😂😂

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

@@YZ-ng5wn There's many scientists that don't believe it is as drastic as other alarmists. In 10 years it'll be too late. [10 years pass] In 10 years it'll be too late. [Repeat cycle]

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

@@YZ-ng5wn I can show you newspaper articles from the 1890's of scientists warning the ice caps will melt and 100's of other failed predictions up to current day. When did science turn into predictions. I'll leave predictions up to psychics that fleece fools for money.

[@YZ-ng5wn]

@@OutSideTheBoxFormat so then your argument is the hundreds of scientists are just lying, studied this exact topic their whole lives and we should just say no? You know more than them of course don’t you? You’ve studied the climate for 30+ years and came to the conclusion climate change is a hoax and every other scientist is lying to the whole world and they’re all in on it in every country around the world? They might as well be lying about covid too if that’s the case....

[@justamanwithsomesoup3352]

Apologies to other countries. I live in America as well and trust me when I say this: Our government is stupid.

[@78anurag]

Nice to see there is actually someone in America who has atleast one neuron

[@rakeyabrown7067]

Your right

[@rakeyabrown7067]

and I’m American too we need to be more educated in science our ozone layer that protects us from sun razes is probably gone because of us burning fossil fuels

[@juliaholmes6552]

Another American here part of Gen z . I can vouch and say that a majority of us are taking notes and are working hard to create a better future. Unfortunately a lot of us are still in college or just getting into the workforce

[@Ciph3rzer0]

Our people are stupid or they wouldn't be elected

[@nhannguyentrong1334]

If climate change is profitable, America would be a very different country

[@ekc9519]

The most idiotic thing about climate denial is regardless of all the stats and numbers and who’s profiting off what. Do you really think that undeniable mass deforestation, huge amounts of greenhouse gases and relentless pollution just did NOTHING. Like argue if the climate is always changing but how can you logically work around the fact that doing all these things had zero effect.

[@jackkrom]

That's why we say these are Inconvenient Truths.

[@brucefrykman8295]

"I listen and believe, thinking is just too dangerous"

[@peterj7631]

You just gave it away. You're from South America!

[@billshackelford3426]

Listening and believing this government is a grave mistake. It's a cesspool of liars. The internet is powerful and I use it to make my own informed decision.

[@brucefrykman8295]

@@billshackelford3426 Listening to and believing ANY government is a mistake. Have you ever noticed how each new government discovers all of the horrible things done by the previous government?

[@kofi3124]

Believing the internet is worse that believing the goverment.

[@brucefrykman8295]

@@kofi3124 At least the internet gives you hope of digging out a germ of truth. Google is designed only to show you only lies among the first ten thousand search hits. Your mouse clicker will be worn out long before that tail is reached. .

[@flytothemoon50]

Why shock when people still believe earth is flat.

[@flytothemoon50]

@username denied at least I have my real name on. Why you mad anyway?

[@classifiesconfidential4330]

@username denied Can't tell if you are joking- but if you are, you nee help.

[@DarkShroom]

@@classifiesconfidential4330 lmao... look at his channel... no the poor guy really does believe the earth is flat!

[@DarkShroom]

@username denied explain how the boat "goes over" the horizon..... maybe it's falling off the edge of the earth?

[@jonathonsmith6831]

@@DarkShroom don't bother with flat earthers. You can come up with undeniable logic and they still won't budge. They are too stupid to realised that they've been fooled.

[@78anurag]

Politicians who don't know any scientific concept above Grade 2: *"BUt ItS CoLD oUTsIdE"*

[@atheistechoes9594]

I know my hometown hasnt had a decent snow since i was like ten Wenatchee washington is a hotbed of fires the mountains here burn every summer leaving many without homes

[@Meow_Zedong_1949]

Why does your comment remind me of Baby it's cold outside?

[@78anurag]

@@Meow_Zedong_1949 idk what is that is that a movie

[@Meow_Zedong_1949]

@@78anurag It's a song.

[@78anurag]

@@Meow_Zedong_1949 ok

[@andyjohnson3790]

Such a simle answer. It's called money and politics.

[@climatecraze]

Correct -- and don't forget the Red Alert ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6fFaH2IgJmModE

[@martingo2680]

I just hope our young generations change politics.

[@SebAnders]

That's right, leave it to someone else!

[@martingo2680]

@@SebAnders you want to do something about it? Do you really think you have a strategy in which you could somehow convince Trump supporters or Republicans in some ideology that will work against their financing interest? Good luck buddy. I got your back 100%.

[@SebAnders]

I'm thankful I don't live in the U.S, otherwise what you have just outlined would be a political mountain to climb for me. But really if you're an American citizen, its on you.

[@CHMichael]

@@martingo2680 i voted for Trump. The climate is changing and we have to prepare for it. If you buy a Tesla you still get Ev credits, but will Tesla be able to build a Battery factory in the US with a stricter EPA? Look past the idiot things he said and look at what he actually did and you will see that in most instances he was not what you call a republican today. (1200 +600 stimulus)

[@daebak7370]

This is the final generation my friend. We are living out book of revelations. Jesus christ is coming back for the rapture(this decade) America will be nuked and invaded by russia and china in near future to usher in new world order. Refuse coming vaccine and rfid chip implant aka mark of beast at all costs. Without this no man can buy or sell. Revelations 13.

[@calebrobinson3162]

Couple of words: US education system and very clever lobbying tactics.

[@anthonymort5202]

omg i never thought of it like that i always said it was propaganda

[@nenmaster5218]

@@user-iz2cb2kj4g Hbomberguy made a really good video about this.

[@glowwurm9365]

@@user-iz2cb2kj4g Spot on, how can lobbying effectively be legal? No other democracy in the west works like this (well they’re not as obvious).

[@rayleeaustralia]

Yes... self interest for the rich and ignorance for the poor

[@mikeweir3680]

Why doesn't the Largest Oil Corps take their profits and take over the green/renewable energy sectors? They could corner the market on green energy in 10yrs if they tried...

[@furuleetsaingo]

Well one reason they shouldn't though is that when they buy them out they'd just dismantle it and through it away, kinda like the judge from Roger Rabbit said why he bought the Red Car so he could dismantle it and then people would just have to take the freeway , kinda like what already happened to our rail system and why we have the worst out of any country, sure we are so spread out but so is China and they're still building rail systems across their country even into the high altitudes of the Tibetan Plateau

[@mikeweir3680]

@@furuleetsaingo Yeah Jason it is just so frustrating that even if they don't believe that we have been dumping HUGE amounts of carbon into our atmosphere, that are changing the way our planet itself deals with solar radiation,...any gambler knows that you should cover your odds...even if you think that it is only a remote possibility of being realized...I just don't get why science and logic has become subject to political opinion, and not fact, it just baffles the hell out of me....its just obvious, right there in front of our noses...

[@chuckhiggins4940]

Who's here after a polar vortex caused snowstorms and power outages in Texas?

[@iscream3851]

Me! 🙋🏻‍♀️ I’m sending this video to people saying that global warming and climate change doesn’t exist because it’s cold

[@kellyfehr3719]

For gods sake I'm in Vancouver Canada and it was 60ish and sunny. I'm thinking of donating my Parka.

[@crhu319]

@@kellyfehr3719 and 50C is normal?

[@kellyfehr3719]

@@crhu319 Oh uh... that was back during Texas's cold snap. 60F fer the Americans but yeah only a couple weeks ago 44c I couldn't believe it. How anyone can deny climate change at this point is beyond me

[@mk1st]

It depresses me to think how much further along we'd be with this had Al Gore won in 2000.

[@troywalkertheprogressivean8433]

or if we'd gone with electrification instead of the combustion engine, 180 years ago 😑

[@thegary6023]

Look it up every one of his predictions was wrong.

[@mk1st]

@@thegary6023 We are living in the crook of the hockey stick.

[@peterjones4180]

Really Gore is a FRAUD, his film is a FRAUD and its deliberate, he has made VAST profits promoting a non existent crisis, either Bush or Gore were going to be disastrous, there was no good choice there. I suggest you look at the paleoclimate history of the last 8000 years, in particular the European ice core studies covering the last 800 years you will find that NOTHING unusual is happening with global temperature or climate right now at all. The temperature movements have been slow and mild compared to those of the past, current temperatures are substantially lower than those of the Minoan and Roman warm periods and probably lower than the Medieval warm period. There is NO indication that there will be ANY dangerous warming to come.

[@peterjones4180]

@Noah Smith Really, well how about you list everything i posted that you think is factually incorrect, and we will go through them one by one and check.

[@clausnielsen9700]

And Exxon knew about this problem in 1974, and are still allowed to make advertising campaign that says it is wrong. The famous American way, and the sure death of mankind.

[@nettlarry]

Climate, evolution, health care, gun control,... the US lives in all kinds of denials. Why? It's easier. No learning required to just repeat something silly enough even I can understand it. And no changes required. Everything stays as it is. Let our kids handle the damage and pretend we're rational and responsible anyway.

[@IXSICNESS]

The answer to this question is simple. At least 70million Americans think ignorance is a vjrtue

[@litestuffllc7249]

are you one of them?

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Try 200 million...........Dumbing down of America has been going on thru most of My Life.....I am 80.........It is more popular Today to believe in any and all conspiricy theories.........Paul

[@hikintrailsndrinkinales]

I’m so happy that CNBC is making these quality deep dives into issues that need attention.

[@pedromendezruiz6046]

Incoming weird climate change denier saying “bUt CHiNa pOlLutEs mOrE”

[@nicolasdol2920]

im really glad that you love CNBC because im sure they love sheep like you baaaa go sleep my sleepy sheep

[@SdoubleA]

@@pedromendezruiz6046 Not denying anything but China polluting so much has made everything 10x more disastrous. Companies put profits and consumers put cheap purchases over sustainability and well, here we are.

[@1one1won]

Lol!

[@haught7576]

@@SdoubleA we pollute far more per capita and are very close in raw numbers. Research, then take responsibility

[@hbarudi]

The worst problem is climate activists who go to protest and then back to driving the gas guzzling SUV...

[@martinbruhn5274]

I can't understand, how american oil and gas companies know, that their core business has no future and how their company doesn't have a future, if they don't start to also invest in business that does have a future. This is something they can absolutely do. The danish Orsted, once the country's biggest oil and gas company, has now entirely transitioned away from the industry and is now the country's biggest wind energy and more generally renewable energy provider. There are business opportunities for oil and gas companies, but they have to utilise the time they still have, the revenue, they still make and invest into that future. The course they are on seems straight out suicidal, from a climate perspective of course, but also from a business perspective.

[@mk3a]

It is like saying earthquakes don't happen in Japan because you didn't feel any shaking for one day or one week

[@brucefrykman8295]

Who caused them? They should be charged.

[@shark2v]

Earthquakes happen everywhere not just in japan but not every year, is part of the region,it's been happening forever there so is not increasing same as the so called climate change,there have been hurricanes, tornados, droughts, heavy rains all over the world and is the same weather change, this climate change is a lie, now they're going to tax you for the miles you drive, later for the air you breathe, don't you get it, this is for the total control of the people, tyranny, where you have to ask the government for everything, you're now seeing it in the news, no more freedom of speech, you want to open your shop to feed your family and they will take you to jail, for not complying because of another lie the corona virus, even though they tell you we're not going back to normal no matter how many vaccines you take, still they want you to wear the mask and be 6 feet apart from people, anyway you get what I'm saying , this is not looking good for the common fellow.

[@mk3a]

@@shark2v obviously they occur in multiple nations in the world. Also, I was just using it as an example

[@FinancialShinanigan]

Because it's easier not to take responsibility. Taking responsibility means making changes, something people aren't naturally inclined to do.

[@noneshere]

.....leed the way China. They got the volume, lets see the results.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

@@noneshere lead the way Western civilization who had 150 years and more of industrialization and pollution

[@hogatiwash7750]

@@noneshere didn't know America had to follow China's lead. That's new.

[@Kubush1]

@@hogatiwash7750 Have you been to China? The air is full of smog. CNBC is giving in to China propoganda.

[@hogatiwash7750]

@@Kubush1 What's your point? America was the same way just a few decades ago.

[@richsherman3673]

I was not born or raised in a US State. And my first 18 years of my life were not lived in a US State. But, I can say that when I finally became a resident of the US, I realized that most regular intelligent people in the US live inside of a bubble that was created around them by the culture, media and narratives. So hence, when everyone else shows proof of a problem, in America the use of denial has become the new accepted way to ignore reality. Just because it is not immediately visible to everyone, Climate Change is already here and ignoring this is a good way to be unprepared.

[@potatobutton]

Why is the graph you showed at the beginning listed with +x degrees Celsius and -x degrees Celsius? What is the normal that you list as zero? And why is the vertical axis not labeled? What does it really mean?

[@del.see.oh.89]

Half of the country is too busy drinking ranch dressing and eating vicodin.

[@Xyb3rTeCh]

And quarter of them believes in incest

[@Matt_Dagostino]

@@Xyb3rTeCh Nice jab at the South you uneducated swine

[@jasonb8996]

And voting for Biden

[@del.see.oh.89]

@@jasonb8996 Nah, those are the people bankrolling the unproductive flyover states.

[@del.see.oh.89]

@@Matt_Dagostino SWEET HOME ALABAMA YEEEEEEE

[@user9b2]

Why, money 💰

[@TheDoomWizard]

Yep psychopaths run the world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH2tand-jreHpJY

[@yadiaag7771]

If we made climate change into a international competition with the likes of the olympics the USA’s ego would bust and we would change. We can’t not be number 1, our pride won’t allow it

[@donaldedward4951]

How dare you vote to fix the roads when you could have given me a bigger tax break.

[@awddfg]

*_23rd in education._*

[@justamaninTN]

#1 in innovation and GDP. Don’t get it twisted.

[@awddfg]

@@justamaninTN *_Number one in prison population and apparently ignorance too._*

[@imaginarystranger1974]

Not surprising considering you promote such idiotic things as gender studies.

[@thomaszhang5437]

@@justamaninTN Actually, it's Switzerland www.wipo.int/global_innovation_index/en/2019/#:~:text=Interviews-,Ranking,according%20to%20the%20GII%202019.

[@vibez2806]

@@justamaninTN America ain't even top in the american dream which is social mobility

[@Sophie-mv7bd]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a difference

[@Shadow-Reaper]

All of humanity has been doing it since we started and we're still doing it. I'm with the song: waiting on the world to change. I realize human kind is most certainly not going to grow so at this point I'm just waiting to die lol if I were you and you have the energy feel free to change it. Or try to if not join me.

[@htpchtpc4140]

That's not the definition of insanity, but it is an example of it.

[@brucefrykman8295]

You can say that again, we keep on electing Marxists who call themselves Democrats.

[@peterjones4180]

But thats what the climate catastrophists have been doing for almost fifty years and every time the catastrophe is supposed to happen it DOSENT.

[@dr_shrinker]

That’s a dumb cliché. There are numerous things we do over and over, expecting a different result. Like throwing a pitch at a baseball game. Or painting a picture. Watching a movie. Stop using clichés.

[@strummerjones7647]

It's not denial. It's skepticism

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Cite your data that refutes the world's climate scientists. We'd love to see it.

[@strummerjones7647]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 cite the data that proves it fruity

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@strummerjones7647 That response makes no sense. 99.9% of all climate science papers published since 2012 agree that climate change is real and driven by human activity, according to a new Cornell University survey of over 80,000 climate science studies. Look it up.

[@marvenlunn6086]

If the oil companies get sued we better sue the mining companies that dig all the minerals we use in all our technology lumber companies that built our homes

[@andy4b767]

This is exactly what's happening right now during the pandemic

[@ricktd6891]

What exactly ?

[@randomthing3770]

@@ricktd6891 deny the pandemic so workers get nothing out of it and people go to shops and businesses like nothing is happening.

[@ricktd6891]

@@randomthing3770 So you're comparing someone who debunks man-made catastrophic global warming/climate change to someone who doesn't think the virus is serious or real at all ? The only problem with that is there's tons of proof man-made catastrophic global warming doesn't exist. The virus on the other hand seems to be real.

[@thereisnofinishline5773]

@@ricktd6891 Yeah the north pole just decided it wanted to melt one day /s

[@ricktd6891]

@@thereisnofinishline5773 Do you think this is the first time ice melted at The North Pole ?

[@Happy-xi9hl]

Why does everything start and end with oil in the US?

[@aeroripper]

The petrodollar along with the world's reserve currency underpins US global hegemony. The oil companies and vested interests have lots of money to inject doubt into the climate change conversation, similar to what the cigarette companies did. For conservatives who view green energy as an unrealistic 'liberal' cause it's not hard to convince them climate change is false and a conspiracy theory since it doesn't seem that different from their personal experience.

[@kendallwilliams8616]

imo since the automobile was invented in the US the fossil fuel industry really got to sink in there. and the US has very loose campaign finance laws so they got to just run wild unlike in other countries. maybe americans need to overthrow the government or something it does not seem like voting works...

[@Julianna.Domina]

@@kendallwilliams8616 We have the second amendment for a reason, and it's not just for right-wingers

[@lordsamich755]

Electric cars are relatively new, and the Left hates Nuclear.

[@lordsamich755]

@@aeroripper "For conservatives who view green energy as an unrealistic 'liberal' cause" _They are correct about that._

[@Awesome_Aasim]

Well now these petrol companies have to worry about electric cars. As people move towards electric vehicles, there will be little to no demand for oil and so the price of gas will marginally drop.

[@Zimmerian]

Those donor moneys can be used on better things, instead we are seeing climate denial funding

[@hmm2928]

money.

[@w.h7285]

Money is also the reason there is so much climate change propoganda. Transfer the wealth from oil and gas to the big renewable industries

[@hmm2928]

@@w.h7285 exactly!

[@salmonline]

don't forget stupidity

[@sunrisesunset7]

More importantly GOVERNMENT money

[@cece123pg5]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGmvdKyOarlol8k

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

I’m torn. I want what’s best for Earth, but I also want to watch Florida’s drowning.

[@shibavekreal]

Tf did Florida do to you?

[@JastwatchingYT]

#same

[@npcdd1652]

Florida is getting stronger and stronger

[@skunkjulio]

@@npcdd1652 Fact. We'll only mutate and become a threat to all coastal states. "They used to only live in once place, but then the tides rose and they ate all the sharks."

[@jaysomdahl8707]

Some would say the two are synonymous. We need a cost benefit analysis of climate change vs. Florida

[@Knightmare919]

Politicians nowadays forgot what real politics it is serving the people not serving self interest.

[@morrisparrish76]

Who says they forgot?

[@emaarredondo-librarian]

If oil companies had taken science seriously, by now they would be clean energy companies and wouldn't be heading to extinction.

[@themadcatfr]

And during a video about climate change, ads for suitcases specifically designed for air travel...

[@dickgoblin]

Made out of... I give you a couple of guesses.

[@bamahornplayer]

Air travel actually can be significantly more efficient than driving the same distance. Driving yourself across the country in a Toyota Prius, you would consume more fuel for yourself than if you were on a 737. Granted, taking the bus or the train would be the most efficient, but we all know the state of public transport in the US. Here’s the article that I referenced for the fuel consumption comparison: paullaherty.com/2012/05/25/boeing-737-vs-toyota-prius-this-might-surprise-you/

[@anonkasper7937]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6HIiIqbh7tqZ7s

[@nuclearsilo6971]

The fact that so many people in the U.S don't believe in it is the same reason I plan on leaving the U.S

[@OutSideTheBoxFormat]

Ok child. "I'm going to run away because something something." GTFOH.

[@BenjaminPersson]

@A D and that's brain-drain for you. If you suppress those who will take you out of the hole, they will leave and you've dug yourself deeper. It's sadly not the coal miners who are going to give themselves green jobs. Pay a smal price, get some MEASURABLE consequences and a bit of inconvenience now, or wait and pay the inconceivably big price, suffer the unknown consequences and see a country nonlike the one we know today. The choice is ours.

[@super_hero2]

Only half of the American is great, the other half is worse than 3rd world country. Looking at how they believe in whatever Trump said, ignore science, climate change deniers, it is just mind blowing.

[@samsmith9075]

@@super_hero2 the half of america that sucks.... commifornia, ny, nj ? Lol

[@acommentator69]

Good, but I doubt you will actually leave, but I hope you do.

[@michelleludwig6939]

Americans and Australians love arguing against Scientific FACTS!!

[@silenthunger3472]

Telling the truth is difficult when you are paid to lie.

[@ArubaSailing]

It was coming. No other way, Big Oil is going to pay, sooner or later.

[@briandavis849]

Albert BlackPearl ungrateful

[@ArubaSailing]

@@briandavis849 Yes, They Are

[@briandavis849]

Albert BlackPearl you, sir.

[@ArubaSailing]

@@briandavis849 After all subsidies they got? Ok. if you say so.

[@briandavis849]

Albert BlackPearl seems you don’t know anything about the industry really.

[@TheHollandHS]

"Knowledge is like money. Some have it, some don't."

[@anonkasper7937]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6HIiIqbh7tqZ7s

[@joeking433]

I'll take the money EVERY TIME!

[@Eric-ye5yz]

Unlike Money, knowledge is easier to get.

[@5rings16]

But liberal propaganda is free and shoveled everywhere!

[@rafaelcapuano8280]

Is not that people dont belive, its just that they dont want to give up confort to help solve it, thats the whole problem.

[@jeffthomas5291]

DON'T BE DUMB. All they care about is the TAX on YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT> FACT!