Inside Lilium, the German company trying to revolutionize air travel

[@forest42821]

I really hope Lilium can commercialize before going bankrupt

[@Apfellll]

I really hope they go bankrupt before they become a court case

[@jean-marcducommun8185]

The endless experimental flight highly efficient at burning investors money.

[@mhaz1862]

You're the one who'll bankrupt first 😂

[@jean-marcducommun8185]

This project makes me think: When woke people become engineers. Fits mindset of „Energiewende in Deutschland“.

[@mcbrite]

Commercialize to DO WHAT??? This is inferior to both the plane AND the heli...

[@smokindauberdoo4208]

Proud Investor ❤🎉

[@techtravels401]

You are an avid future believer

[@Manuel-mb4zb]

Time to say goodbye to your money. 😂

[@FB0102]

Still proud?

[@DemPilafian]

Aviation will be one of the last industries to fully electrify, but it will happen. The transition will start from the bottom with smaller short-haul aircraft and work its way up. Designing from scratch is way more optimal than converting existing aircraft. Lilium looks like they are doing awesome work. These kinds of companies are the future, and the future will be clean, sustainable, and less noisy.

[@Drannn54]

Its not necessary to electrify all sectors because it will increase the reliance on China due to supply chains that mostly mined in that country therefore your claim is baseless and intended with the aim of destroying the West

[@trnogger]

I think it might actually be one of the earlier ones. Aviation is very centralised and mostly owned by larger businesses which are much more open to cost-saving innovation than private users or small businesses. And fuel costs are THE cost driver in aviation, electrification is not only an environmental question but has a significant economic incentive. Another hurdle to electrification is the availability of recharging infrastructure which is much easier to provide at airports and helicopter landing pads, compared to cars/trucks or even ships.

[@rayray8687]

⁠@@trnogger: Of course everyone seems to forget that most of the electricity used to run EVs of any kind is produced by burning fossil fuels in the first place with various extra losses of efficiency along the way so until that’s corrected the entire process is a fool’s paradise - there is no benefit to the environment and there is no economic benefit. Better to just burn the fuels directly in the engine, don’t you think?

[@kerrytodd3753]

Delusional…..money grab

[@luigipepperoni3778]

On October 28, 2024, Lilium filed for self-administered insolvency at the Weilheim District Court for its two main operating subsidiaries. The company is drowning in debt and can't pay its bills. They were hoping for a 100M euro government-backed loan but got rejected. Around 1.5B euros of investor money might be gone down the drain, and their electric aircraft development is WAY behind schedule. Another startup bites the dust...

[@harryjones5260]

i would always worry when they move very quickly on from the propulsion details to emphasise the fact that you will be able to have a trim finish in whatever style you want.

[@ahmetmehmet9686]

He says compressor but I dont see any compressor on the engine, plus what you supposed to do with compressed air if you are not burning it? These are just fans that accelerates the flow. Honestly that guy does not seem like an experienced engineer.

[@n1vca]

How can they be a "leading eVTOL company" when they haven't even created a prototype that has been flying with a single pilot/passenger? I thought CNBC had some journalistic standards, like doing research and presenting facts? Instead its just an ad trying to keep the investors on board.🙄 Since 10 years are looking at an "RC plane" that can't fly with a single person on board and are annually pretending to sell a 6 or more seater very soon? Its also not a jet unless you call your blow dryer a jet as well ... its a ducted fan ... just like an inefficiently small propeller inside a tube. I am really waiting for the day they can finally present one of two people on board and make it fly some 30-40km, then I'll start to take them serious.

[@cinemaipswich4636]

Here we see the "lift" design. Create low pressure on top of the wing, over a wide area. Having multiple engines makes for safety, and controlled variable performance.

[@edmondsmith4259]

First, great respect that Lilium refers to other companies as "peers" and not "competitors"! All for a cleaner, quieter, more exciting future!

[@TheBagOfHolding]

Fellow hornswogglers.

[@bendo7418]

...that will never happen, except in glossy brochures :P

[@crazzylee]

Do a fully loaded test flight!

[@Chris-gd1ho]

Please, no unrealistic demands!

[@smokindauberdoo4208]

@@crazzylee manned flight 2025

[@lazy-rich]

Selling to the rich will never go out of fashion ✅

[@steveabplanalp1657]

I’m enjoying following the lLillium journey. Like any new pioneer lots of head winds and pessimism, however I can see the vision.

[@stephanmariahitzel6102]

Visions don't make flying aircraft. Range, Turn-Around-Time, Safety and Economics must carry the Vision. Here we see fancy shapes and not true physical prove of this thing becoming a safe, reliable tool.

[@mike_delv7228]

​@@stephanmariahitzel6102 he was mentioning pessimistic person, he described you well 👍

[@stephanmariahitzel6102]

@@mike_delv7228 you prove that there is not much knowledge about aircraft design, physics, aeronautics and propulsion as well as safety issues. Working almost 40 years in combat and civil aircraft design both in Germany and abroad as in all related topics makes me more than competent to see Lilium as a phantasy.

[@dangray5532]

99% of the premium market aren't interested in something which can only fly regionally and still costs €8-9million. They also aren't motivated by green-flight, or the advantages of VTOL. I'm afraid with several hundred competitors, most of them will have to fold.

[@veggieboyultimate]

If we ever want to commercialize this, the price to ride this must be fair

[@spikeman5103]

1400 Million € and no flying, real size prototype in 9 years!

[@starseed8087]

"AI how long did it take to develop the helicopter?" Answer: "The development of the helicopter has a long history. The idea of the rotorcraft, which characterizes the helicopter, was already known in ancient China and was used in the “Flying Top” toy 2,500 years ago. Leonardo da Vinci made the first sketches of flying machines around 1487-1490. But it wasn't until the 20th century that the development of helicopters really took off. It ultimately took over 500 years until the helicopter was “perfected” in its current form and flight dynamics."

[@amazingdiyprojects]

@@starseed8087 So Lilium have been in development for 509 years and still have not flown a full scale prototype ;-D

[@anderbeau]

Omg I literally thought that was Thomas from the car channel for a while, they sound exactly alike! 2:45 😂

[@flippert0]

It's almost as if they are both German ?!?

[@eoghanfla6343]

I’m really not sure about that pilot UI screen. As some who drives a new car with a similar screen that fails and turns off randomly I would prefer to see some analog tech for the pilot but maybe there’s a second set of controls.

[@vaughnbay]

4:45 "....we are using a lot of carbon fiber...." Really! This 2:29 looks like an aluminum airplane.

[@GSSurry]

Turn the background music volume up, I can still hear the guys talking.

[@ThomasHofmann]

Test flight is sheduled later this year. 🎉

[@manlymcmanface9932]

Filing for bankruptcy later this week!

[@nsubuganaziru361]

I wish i could train to fly these cool jets.

[@MartinJefferies-j1d]

The design reminds me of the Osprey. That aircraft has been plagued by tragic accidents.

[@TeeTeeNet]

Energy density of a lithium ion battery being generous: 300 W.h/kg, of kerosene: 11900 W.h/kg. Factor of 39x. I would like to see these guys succeed, but they’re up against some hard limits that make me skeptical.

[@frankklemm1471]

On average, the energy density is twice as high: 300 Wh/kg compared to 23800 Wh/kg. Burnt fuel weighs nothing more. And it's even worse in itself. A non-electric aircraft cannot be refueled when needed. Only the fuel used counts. On the other hand, there is no drop in performance over the service life. A commercial aircraft is typically refueled 2 to 3 times a day. That is usually around 1000 cycles per year, 20,000 cycles in 20 years.

[@GregoryGuerrier]

Love the green suit! 👌🏾

[@Martin-rs2zk]

Great German engineering skills!

[@n1vca]

no, it barely flies as an empty model ... most Canadian RC hobbyists can do better than that

[@dandare1001]

Great German scam skills.

[@jasonbowman7190]

Imagine your 100's of feet in the air on a business video call and the battery catches fire 🔥 🤔

[@JillesvanGurp]

Imagine your jet filled with a few thousand tons of fuel catches fire. You wouldn't be the first passenger burnt to a crisp after a crash landing in a conventional plane. If the impact doesn't kill you, that's the next likely way to die in a plane crash. Battery fires are more likely with some batteries than with others. Guess which type they are using here ...

[@neunuhr2362]

This guys are on a Mission and nothing can stop them. 💪🏼

[@dandare1001]

A mission to steal investors' money. Definitely.

[@greenironnose392]

Since first flight in 1905 one thing is absolute common in aviation: The natural balance and the ability for gliding. Irrelevant it’s a helicopter, fixed-wing aircraft or a paper glider. The smallest problem in flight control, and this Lilium thing will fall down like a piece of stone. I haven't seen a single video of the Lilium gliding with the engines stopped. As I think that this shape is revolutionary new and unique, or rather strange, but it violates the basic principles of aviation.

[@carlosbarradas-k7q]

B52 has the same falcon shape.

[@user-yd8wp8rz2b]

Excited about LILM. Been buying and now have 10x more LILM than ACHR.

[@Rich0-v5r]

Lilium recently stated in a report to SEC that they might file bankruptcy and tweeted that they face bankruptcy, if they won‘t get a 100 million loan by the German government - which they didn’t as decided this week. They lack venture capital investors with approximately 1,5 billion Euro already burned and still the Lilium Jet hasn’t been fully developed yet. Not many reasons to be “excited” like you in my books.

[@user-yd8wp8rz2b]

@@Rich0-v5r At this stage of the game, I don't think they will go bankrupt. They have the best EVOL product and have invested so much already. Someone will buy the company if the German gov't does not give them the loan.

[@RoseSupreme]

The sooner eVTOLs arrive, the better. I want flying cars so bad!😫

[@pedroreis2095]

evtols are not flying cars , they are meant to be a taxi service and not a private flying car, because if everyone has it the traffic will not decrease

[@RoseSupreme]

@@pedroreis2095 To you, maybe. In my eyes, they look like humanity's first true step into realizing one of sci-fi's most iconic and desired tropes.

[@yumoo4439]

I love Lilium ❤❤❤

[@JohnWerner-te5zy]

I love Lithium

[@denniskearns3244]

You are not being honest, what provides the thrust?

[@martinw245]

He told you. Lithium ion batteries. They call it a jet but it's basically ducted fans.

[@Para_Ninja]

Woke fantasies and dreams.

[@marvinidler2289]

It seems CNBC didn't see the thing fly in Wessling. Did any journalist ever fly with it or at least film a crew doing a test flight?

[@TheBagOfHolding]

​@CNBCi an unmanned remote control small prototype isn't the same

[@smokindauberdoo4208]

@@TheBagOfHolding manned flight 2025

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@smokindauberdoo4208 id bet against that. I doubt a full sized craft of this design will be able to lift itself by 2025.

[@smokindauberdoo4208]

@@TheBagOfHolding it already flies by remote control 🤯🤣😅🤣😎

[@TheBagOfHolding]

@smokindauberdoo4208 not a full sized craft but little toy prototypes that people can't fit in. even then they didn't show much.

[@rollbin]

but at what cost?

[@Para_Ninja]

9 or 7 million usd... outrageous and expect these numbers to rise when or if they have an actual project.

[@RussellFineArt]

Lilium has the best technology for EVTOL's but, they need to move a little faster towards commercialization.

[@dasmaurerle4347]

That's not how German companies work...🤦

[@n1vca]

What exactly is best on a prototype after 10 years that can barely fly empty? It has never been lifting a single person - its just a large RC prototype The nice looking stuff with seats has never been flying at all - great technology🤣

[@oscare.quiros6349]

Awesome!

[@shubhankartripathi1143]

Future technology looks like this

[@stephanmariahitzel6102]

on pictures and flyers

[@michelecampanelli5419]

👍👏 from 🇮🇹

[@ziad_jkhan]

It's a design and marketing company. Any experienced engineer will confirm how inefficient and wasteful it is under the hood. A decade in the making and still no figures reported about the workload.

[@ovariantrolley2327]

Specifics?

[@n1vca]

@ziad_jkhan Totally agree with you

[@ziad_jkhan]

@@ovariantrolley2327 It's more about the lack of specific. Again, there has been zero disclosure of the workload carried during the tests or the energy consumed. Ten years went by and hundreds of articles and videos were published but we still don't have access to the most basic information.

[@chadlymath]

It's definitely fcev fueling. Battery components are hard & fuel cell flies 2 1/2 times longer and can carry way more being much liter.

[@youtubemakesmedothis7280]

Fuel cell is lighter? Ignoring the mass of a high-compression hydrogen tank...

[@SteveOfTheMountains]

Finally! The jetsons are coming soon

[@bendo7418]

yes. always just 2 years ago...since 10 years. who in his right mind still believes that crappy PR?

[@joecalderon3158]

how can you spent almost 500 million for that, and now you want tax money wtf?

[@emoney822]

Let's go lilm

[@d.harris8635]

Just went bankrupt

[@fallenrepublic6342]

i am an investor....pretty heavily...i would love to have a version for MSFS to fly virtual.....

[@samkimani4485]

electric aviation needs much lighter but powerful batteries...innovation currently ongoing...better battery chemistries

[@Insight_Compass]

Wow,, Future of Aviation, Well Done.

[@n1vca]

This has no near future, if you want to see future, look at their competitors

[@kingmidas7170]

Lilium❤

[@udhelhc]

EHANG is the much better bet on the EVTOL industry

[@ThomasHofmann]

Ehang is a big drone, nothing special. They wont get Easa and Faa certified within the next years

[@martinw245]

Nope. Joby and Archer. Joby way ahead.

[@JumoMedia-z5j]

But is this fuel efficient when landing and take off? VTOL's buggest problem is it uses too much energy/fuel when it takes off and land.

[@martinw245]

Takeoff and landing is just a fraction of the flight time. The majority is in the cruise, where it's efficient.

[@YK_data]

Why the range is not mentioned. Welp everyone knows. Enter range anxiety in air.

[@viewer-of-content]

Range Anxiety is already one of the biggest issues in aviation. It's why the USA banned trans-oceanic twin engine jets for most of the 1900s, and why several models don't fly transpacific fights. An e-mobility plane not talking about range when Boeing and Airbus lead there marketing materials with range is laughable. Domestic flights are a huge market, so even if this e-jet has crap range they could sell 200 private jets given a big Walmart order or something similar. Walmart has all of their regional managers fly in and out of Arkansas every week, and they go to like 3-4 remote rural cities in the usa a week to check on operations. Other businesses would buy a lot of e-jets too, but you got to give them range if you want to compete against bombardier or lier jets

[@saulgoodman2018]

Because it's garbage.

[@stickynorth]

It's meant as urban helicopter replacement... So think lots of short point to point flights from say Calabasas to LAX or Montauk to Manhattan... I believe it's 300 km range, 300 km/h... So something like that...

[@JoeyBlogs007]

They are loosing big money and running out of angel investors to rescue them from their miserable fate.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.

[@blackstone3469]

Better than Tesla! That is the future! No car anymore!

[@olfo4100]

We will see , the stock price doesn't give much hope

[@yukon4511]

Why are you flogging this failing stock?

[@schrimpf]

….our business model, hmm…, is to grasp as much public funding as possible…

[@evandrodaolio]

Go Lilium ❤

[@JogBird]

this is a fluff piece.. what is an electric jet motor, how does it work, it sounds revolutionary

[@ericmaglio]

It's a fairly simple electric ducted fan. They call them "jets" for exactly the reason you've noticed - to make it sound like they're doing revolutionary things.

[@greg_289]

@@ericmaglio No. They’ve explained previously. They call them jets because they’re enclosed in nacelles, like a jet engine.

[@Phrancis5]

Easily one of the most unique and efficient EVTOL designs, but this video doesn't even talk about the mechanics...

[@motorsport4311]

When others busy try to kill each other,,this team create new tech..

[@aaronb8698]

this is such a beautiful design, just wish it went flat to the ground for wheel chair access.

[@Urufu-san]

If this revolutionizes air travel, I will make a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela. All these startups do is burn money. Have we not seen countless examples of this?

[@marshallc3]

It’s amazing--it’s pretty arrogant to have one pilot in a commercial aircraft.

[@rayray8687]

Pretty much all small aircraft only require a single pilot.

[@normellow]

You know who really likes these aircraft’s are cobalt miners. Cobalt miners are freak dancing to this news !

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

Jet? How can it be called "Electric jet"?!

[@martinw245]

Yeah, that's just to make it sound sexy. It's ducted fans.

[@savagecub]

And how does it do in icing conditions ?

[@RogueReplicant]

It doesn't.

[@dandare1001]

It'll be fine, because it will never fly.

[@bikebudha01]

NO... Just no... we don't need private vertical takeoff vehicles... Why? I DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO AN AIRPORT. And if all my neighbors get one of these, I will live next to an airport...

[@peytonfilardi5068]

You couldn’t ask how they source their lithium and other materials? It doesn’t matter if you’re carbon neutral when flying if you’re destroying the ocean floors and stealing from and ruining indigenous communities with the lithium mining. Just a thought on how you could probe at more important questions than just “are you carbon neutral?”.

[@flox8342]

...and everybody else in GA still flying leaded gasoline. xD ...lets hope this tech evolves and adapts fast. And maybe also bring out a 4 seater for about 500k - 1mio €....

[@gj9157]

sure hope so

[@chiadamian]

USD 9 -7 million..!?

[@gj9157]

For the rich as expected

[@ThomasHofmann]

9 m for the luxury pioneer edition

[@خامنهایولدزنااست]

I bought the shares of this company for a year. It is always negative. This company does not care about small shareholders. The only way to increase capital is to sell cheap shares to domestic people.

[@mobileplayers5008]

Don't use cheap stuff made from China or else u ain't gonna be billionaires. Customers safety is always come first.

[@Para_Ninja]

In reality I bet the Chinese are the first to make a successful Evtol. They already control all the major infrastructure and have complete dominance in drone and battery manufacture. These guys will waste 1.5 billion, no one will buy 9 million dollar toys, do all the heavy lifting and then it will bankrupt and be sold cheap to a Chinese company with all the tech and they will then commercialize it to be competitive with existing products in the market instead of fantasy.

[@DelSigy]

I’ve been watching this company for a decade. Yall are late.

[@iCro63]

I bought lilium stocks for 10 bucks. Looking forward to becoming a millionaire in 2030

[@GingerWildcat]

Bad buy in. Look at any tech or manufacturing stock and you should know you will have dozens of chances to buy in for under $1 per share

[@burmy1552]

Lithium ion batteries? The same batteries that cause 25 of every 100k electric cars to catch fire? No thanks.

[@Sr_art_3862]

Do we NEED it?

[@КомандаОмега]

There will be no traffic if everyone if flying.

[@FifthGate]

Who's "we"?

[@erixxon74]

you can’t take a lithium battery on board an aircraft, but you can use one to power it 🤣🤣

[@n1vca]

In their development stages they already had a model burn out - I guess they take high current lines seriously now

[@jellybaby9630]

Solid State Batteries. Nuclear Battery

[@haxhibaba]

You should produce ones for the wider audience, ranging from 50k to 100k

[@shakiMiki]

What ever this is, it's not journalism.

[@bettytureaud]

Nothing new in this video all old stof, when do we see one flying withe a real person onbord.

[@amiava4213]

Never.

[@RS-uh7rz]

I hope you become huge. The Volkswagen of electric flight.

[@waynerussell6401]

NONE OF THE OLD OEMS HAVE MANAGED TO SUCCEED COMMERICAILLY IN ELECTRIFICATION! ONLY ONE COMPANY HAS AND ITS CEO HAS PROMISED TO MAKE A VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING SUPERSONIC AIRCRAFT IF NOBODY ELSE DOES!

[@amiava4213]

Delusional.

[@frawin9595]

wenn ich Wasserstoff schon höre,.. wie real ist denn dann das Ganze,..

[@n1vca]

An der Stelle kann Wasserstoff wirklich Sinn machen, auch wenn es dann noch teurer wird, aber bei den ineffizienten Triebwerken mußt Du extrem viel Strom liefern, was mit aktuellen Akkus und dem unglücklichen Leistungsgewicht quasi nicht möglich ist - da ist Wasserstoff tatsächlich eine Option.

[@nosuchthingasshould4175]

Has a long history in aerospace industry- but we don’t talk about that.

[@hubertgans3120]

No hard facts such as range. What to do at the end of usefull batterie life of 8-ish jears?

[@martinw245]

No its not 8 years. We only have cars to go by, and Teslas used as Taxis have done 300,000 and 400,000 miles. They don't need replacing after 8 years, that's just the warranty period.

[@ChiefGore429]

I've seen the scooter batteries blow. I couldn't imagine these

[@kinngrimm]

Not necessarily for everyone for the forseeable future, but definetly something worth investing into. At the time pilots would be replaced by AI, this might even become a highend public transportation vehicle for say otherwise hard to reach places or should mass production become really cheap overall for anyone. Just not with human pilots.

[@berkut6313]

😂right, 45 minutes of electric power....when the battery is brand new, it's not too cold, and you don't spend too much time hovering. Flying VFR FAA/EASA requires you to retain 30 minutes of flight time AT Destination....for a reason. That's at best a 15 minute mission. A zero minute if you fly IFR. But battery are getting better and cheaper, right ? Well why do regular people turn their back on them ? At least you don't have to a lift an entire Tesla ou VW to make the journey, and the only penalty to drain out the battery is to park on the side of the road, and the only casualty, self-esteem...this is balloony, all about Vr, design, (AI anyone), and btw carbon is NOT light, it's stiff and strong...if you actually use them properly, in heavy loaded aerostructures, otherwise, plywood or wood &fabric, or even aluminium is a much lighter option. This is a graphic design-driven project, not a rationale engineering choice.

[@TheBagOfHolding]

There is no way they can get 5 minutes at full size with a load.

[@tpop3723]

That’s one fancy comb.

[@EleanorPeterson]

Some people might think the last word in your Comment should begin with a letter 'B', or even a 'T'... (Just kidding. Or am I?🤔)

[@trading_addiction]

It will zero emissions without battery 😂😂

[@CheloTavares]

Chelo

[@Manoj_0000]

Wow

[@AcmePotatoPackingPocatello]

Investor...for 3 years. Lookin forward to placement of 1st aircraft. It will be barnstormin.

[@hyperman717]

There is no such thing as zero emission. You just move the emissions to another place. We need to go completely nuclear, not electric. Nuclear is the greenest and safest source of energy.

[@beyondfossil]

LMAO. A ZEV has zero emissions during operation which is huge milestone for any vehicle considering the huge amounts of operating emissions otherwise from fossil fuel vehicles. Electricity can be produced from recyclable renewable technology which is some of the lowest emission power technologies available that are only getting cleaner.

[@GinnyGlider]

"Safest" Perhaps In terms of their operation track record but their severity remains at the catastrophic level. Even then the storage management (or disposal) of nuclear waste alone poses a significant safety hazard. - The development of nuclear fusion could offset some of these severities compared to traditional nuclear fission. I say "could offset" since it's still in the experimental stage meaning there are uncertainties still left unknown... - Of course, obviously, this is all (hopefully) accounted for, with the current and future nuclear safety methods especially the need in the pace of Innovation of reducing these hazardous cases.

[@beyondfossil]

​@@GinnyGlider Yes, "catastrophic" is the operative word here. Nuclear power is the only form of energy that can produce catastrophic 20,000+ year variety. It's not just the immediate effects either. There are long-term psychosomatic effects even if one is only near the radiation zone. Villages and towns near or downwind of irradiated zones (Chernobyl, Fukushima-Daiichi) will be especially prone to this. Because, for decades later, every lump in their throat or body will cause them to wonder if it's the start of a cancerous growth because of their proximity. Constant fear is no way to live. Long term effects of nuclear may not be known for decades either. If a person died of cancer 30+ years after, how can we know how much of that was related to long-term exposure? they could have avoided the cancer altogether perhaps. The accounting of causation may be masked by decades of time. People are well aware of this. All communities will have a large section of residents that will fight against a new nuclear plant anywhere near their neighborhoods. Nuclear power will come against NIMBY to the extreme. Add that to the long construction times and huge budget overruns.

[@z33r0now3]

If you are still not supposed to eat game or mushrooms from the wood near you because Russia fucked up more than 30 years ago, you might find yourself thinking differently.

[@thesep1967]

Bankrupt. Finis.

[@mirbooks]

😮😮😮

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Yeah they been spruiking this snake oil for years. It's an accident waiting to happen. 10 million for a range of what ??? 150 miles. They don't even have a full scale test model yet after all these years. Snake Oil. Design is flawed. One major power outage and it's doomed. No control surfaces !!!

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.

[@Y2Kvids]

One major outage ... there would be redundancies and motors are very reliable

[@animemadnese]

It's the FUTURE

[@if1389]

Big fail

[@charlessterling8375]

That company seems to have a great product but its all bla bla and no product in sight

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Lets not pretend. They are going broke and running out of angle investors.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.

[@kingmidas7170]

The best thing that could ever happen to me is pessimistic people like you, Joey. Without such people the price would be much higher. Luckily it hasn't been for the last 4 months and I was able to get in cheap :) Thank you very much and please continue to be pessimistic

[@Dave_Sisson]

Joey, I notice you have made a heap of comments on this video, all of them negative and all of them have been downvoted to the bottom of the list. We all see videos we don't like and perhaps give one negative comment, but there has to be a reason for so many negative comments from you. So I have to ask why you are so passionately against this company? Did someone who works there do something nasty to you?

[@burmy1552]

@@Dave_Sisson The fact that they are using l-ion is a major issue. 25 per 100k electric cars catch fire. When this happens in the air it will be far more catastrophic. Battery powered human/cargo flight will require far better batteries. They wouldn't have a hard time finding investors if these prototypes had a significant amount of field testing under load in varied conditions. I'm not counting them out completely, nor am I a pessimist. My great grand uncle was taught to fly by Wilbur and Orville Wright and is in the Canadian aviation hall of fame. He believed in reasonable risk as do I. I just think that certain hurdles need to be cleared which are not being addressed, not at least in this video.