Going back to the five-day, in-office workweek is 'wishful thinking', says Yale's Joanne Lipman

[@Soul_midwife_tarot]

What’s actually happening is companies demanding you go back in 5 days are hoping you quit so they don’t have to payout if they lay you off. They just want to make one person do the job of two or three and pay for one.

[@speedrunner9907]

everything is fine until we find out that people are canceling Amazon subscriptions…

[@michaelkeudel8770]

If 73% of the survey done says their look8ng for a new job, we can sit back and watch Amazon collapse and no longer function. The remaining 27% isn't going to be able do the work of the 73% that left.

[@Soul_midwife_tarot]

@@speedrunner9907I’m not sure that’s a good indicator. Amazon has destroyed small businesses. Some people only have Amazon for basic goods.

[@je5406]

First we had quite quitting now quite layoffs. Things are balancing out.

[@curiouspenguin6887]

Plus they don't have to file a Warn notice since it would be a mass quit, not a mass layoff.

[@lesleyegbert4807]

This video made something clear for me that wasn't clear before: the CEOs demanding 5-day RTO are completely ignoring the data, and it's not because they know something we don't. It's simply because their power in combination with their personality type has disconnected them from reality. Their desire for the direct, face-to-face exercise of power is the force that drives their lives. They're mistaking this artifact of their personal dysfunction for an imperative that others must follow. The consequences for everyone else don't matter because no one but the CEO truly exists. It's not commercial real estate investments, or concerns about fraud. It's just plain old narcissism.

[@DonaldMains]

That's clear to you. How? How do you know what goes on in the minds if CEOs. And why are you commenting on KZbin if you are so smart as to know the thought process of every CEO. Does the word hubris mean anything to you?

[@wlockhart]

Hit the nail on the head. You've perfectly articulated the thoughts I have in my head about the real reason for the RTO demands. I've worked with these types my whole career, and they hated the pandemic remote working situation because it took away their ability to strut around the office like a silverback gorilla. In the long run they won't win.

[@TravisPluss]

@@DonaldMainsstop gaslighting the commenter.

[@quantumblurrr]

@@DonaldMains Clearly you've never spent any time in an office lol. Very weird bone to pick

[@DonaldMains]

@@quantumblurrr Clearly , you have no idea about me or anything in life.

[@bricegreco8292]

4 days a week is not hybrid.

[@HHHPedigrees]

Any company that requires 100% RTO doesn’t care about the quality of their talent.

[@KK-pm7ud]

Those companies care about the quality of their output. I'd take two hard working smart people over a lazy brilliant one.

[@hector6005]

That’s not really how those options play out in the real world. People have options, so the talent and hard workers will be picked up by other companies. It’s already happening, then what will happen is like what happened at Boeing with their software engineers. They ended up with the lower level talent.

[@lindo110]

"talent"

[@bluefinch6504]

Companies care about making money. Not paying people to be at “work” while eating and drinking at restaurants or surfing at the beach.

[@KK-pm7ud]

@@bluefinch6504 People being at work in an office increases productivity. Don't believe the fake statistics put out by academics.

[@sm8315]

As an employee, I am just quiet quitting, I also don’t plan to comply, let’s see how it pans out

[@run_juan_run]

Polish that resume

[@C-Weegs]

You’re a loser

[@C-Weegs]

That’s a loser mentality

[@poollife777]

Low class.

[@yog4042]

@@poollife777did it happen recently or when you were young?

[@bobbab5759]

I'm in my 50s and my biggest surprise is how long it is taking for the 5-day custom to die. Fortunately, my company has been very relaxed and focuses on events or meetings to be the draw to come to the office organically. Hence I am in 1 to 2 days a week and rarely all day. This increased our employee engagement and retention.

[@lesleyegbert4807]

"Rarely all day" this is key. What people hate is the time wasted in traffic. When people don't have to be in the office all day, they can miss rush hour traffic on the way to and from, and still get home in time to pick the kids up from school.

[@makki4064]

@@lesleyegbert4807why would you need to be even one day a week, for what? if people in the office are sitting with their big headphones on coding? ah , maybe its to support local coffee shops who are struggeling to make revenue charging you 10$ per coffee cup and health organisations who discover that people working remote could be extend their live about 30% and its not good?

[@josejorge110]

RTO is for companies to regain control over their employees. They want to return to the pre-COVID way employees priortizing their job over their life. Also, cities and states that gave corporations tax breaks/incentitives to set up offices want RTO to bring back business (e.g., going out to eat, shopping, parking, etc.) to commercial areas.

[@mucool123]

Local restaurants, clothing services and most importantly commercial property mortgages. Those will go bankrupt if ppl don't go to office and if banks go out then lot of jobs will go out too. Ppl in companies like Amazon are making a lot of money but its not coming back in economy and ppl are working in low cost tie 3 cities and making Seattle salaries pushing tier three homes up Moreover, if remote is permitted then lot of jobs will be outsourced as the work will be done for third of the cost.

[@BOlek-j6q]

No it’s called “ going to work”

[@anutkaschannel2478]

Yes it’s more push from cuties on the companies in downtowns, so homeless don’t trash the downtowns completely

[@pensivepenguin3000]

My manager wants her entire team to be fully in office. Fortunately because I live halfway across the country and was hired before she came on board, I’m still allowed to remain remote, but she can’t hire anyone! The company is not exactly located in a talent hub, and when people are presented with an offer that includes being in office five days a week, they just go elsewhere. Seriously - she’s tried to hire for the past 12 months and we literally can’t get a single new person on the team because of this. She and these other leaders are delusional

[@NhiTran-gs9hz]

They will find a reason to lay you off soon. My co worker and I live on the same state and were just laid off because they said it costs them more to employ us, other employees from other states are still safe, of course most of them and managers are not from my state

[@NhiTran-gs9hz]

You better look for the new opportunity. I believe once they can hire the new one, they will ask you to train them and they will lay you off after that, it's from my personal experience

[@nahimehjaffar7201]

Agreed, same happened to me. Use the time as a blessing to prepare for a layoff. Don’t quit, the job search is tough so unemployment might be helpful. Your manager sounds toxic anyways, you don’t want to work for her.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

@@NhiTran-gs9hz oh, I believe it and I’m ready for it. Give me that sweet, sweet severance. I would quit without notice tomorrow based on the toxicity of this place but may as well let them pull the plug for me and get some money out of it

[@pensivepenguin3000]

@@nahimehjaffar7201 100%. These past 12 months have really taken a toll on my physical and mental well-being and I’ve got to get out of this place. I should have tried sooner before the job market crapped the bed, but it is what it is. I would welcome a layoff

[@nikovenag4110]

what I realized working from home is that whenever someone calls me, it's for work and not chit chatting like when I go to the office. In the office you always go to take a coffee break and talk with someone which is not about job most of the times. Yes you connect, but the company does not get any profit from it, even loses engagement.Then in the office I work less than in home.

[@Soistoi-meme]

That’s assuming that nothing worthwhile Ever comes from those conversations. I’ve found those unplanned conversations to be more beneficial to my work than meetings.

[@VintageTVMemories]

This. But I'll take it a step farther because I'm spiteful when it comes to millionaires and billionaires. When my previous job made me come into the office, I ensured to chat as much as I could with my colleagues-- I got almost nothing done-- and when they'd ask me about productivity, I told them I didn't have this problem at home and that if they wanted higher productivity, they should let me work from home every single day. Then, I made noise to disturb those around me (in a funny way- not in an annoying way) so that the company lost seconds/minutes/hours of revenue. I would extend meetings by asking stupid questions whereby delaying the return to our desks. I encouraged the managers to bring us treats like donuts and coffee so that they would expense it and the company would pay. My darn foot would always hit the misplaced computer plug behind my desk at least 3 times a week. Then, my gosh-darn compuer would take 20 minutes to restart. OOPS. I always had so many "tech issues" too. I'd have to call tech and get them to remote-check my PC to fix whatever problem I created "inadvertently". I always went to the bathroom on company time. Lastly (I can't think of anything else right now), I used as many of the office resources as I possibly could. I took home paper, staplers, computer parts, etc. If it wasn't nailed down, I was leaving with it. SEE: if you use your head, you can drive the company into the ground with their own policies. Then, once everyone starts doing what I did, there'll be a turnaround in mentalities.

[@nicolesmith1387]

Besides the chitchatting, you can avoid all the office drama and gossip! It was a godsend for me when I could work remotely and just focus on my work.

[@anutkaschannel2478]

Ppl so difficult to deal with I don’t know why management wants ppl back in the office? To solve more interpersonal problems?

[@klle3419]

to be fair when you connect more and more and bonds, you work harder for the team you care about each other as people and the project is more fun; a lot more growth and depth happens so the company wins

[@fastestoneliner]

Meetings “back in the office.” Are now employees sitting at their desks dialled in and you can’t have the old chatter like you could do before, because they want you to keep your voice down. Half the meetings are unnecessary anyway. At least at home office you can put music on and deep work, get the work finished earlier and go get the kids from school. Pre pandemic the office was social and few knew about zoom or web cameras, meeting rooms were always occupied. There’s no going back, even if you mandate it. What happens when they rehire?

[@specifiko5877]

i. will. never. go. back. i'll survive on cat food and day-old toilet water before sitting in a cubicle ever again.

[@nisachannel7077]

Amen to that ❤

[@David-bf6pl]

Your choice.

[@C-Weegs]

Your a lazy loser

[@russellmilam5686]

Sure dude

[@davidrice6724]

will 2 day old toilet water push you back in...?😁

[@jocko4598]

Face it, Amazon doesn't trust their employees. This translates into many Amazon employees thinking about leaving. Morale will suffer at Amazon.

[@JobsHorn]

There are plenty to work at Amazon, they don't suffer or will out source positions

[@KK-pm7ud]

No it will not. Morale will improve with all of the lazy people that quit.

[@reneemyers6482]

A large amount of Amazon employees are not going to quit until after March . Stock golden handcuffs and they will not be able find a comparable job in this employment market.

[@jdjones3317]

​@@KK-pm7udLmfao 😅

[@fallen546]

​@@reneemyers6482It depends on the role. Middle managers may have a hard time but senior software engineers are still very much in demand. The big tech companies over hired recently, but the rest of the market still needs people. Amazon has always been seen as kind of terrible by most engineers

[@MrK67017]

I have never been more productive than I've been working for home for the last 4.5 years. The American people don't give a toot where I work as long as I'm working and most importantly as long as my leadership knows I'm working. Some people have no choice and must be in an office, but not everyone.

[@cindymorrison_caravanlifej3536]

It’s about power and control not employee engagement. Being in an office doesn’t guarantee more productivity or cross department benefits. It’s about them filling empty offices period. 20 yrs of HR experience lets me say this.

[@JoeDurbs]

Our company found that WFH works best for us. We are able to get talent from all over the country.

[@cmorris9494]

My day job loved us working from home. We got more done and the company loved the flexibility of the employees. My boss gets more work done at night than during the day. She is available to answer questions and deal with emergencies during the day. If she needs a report at night I can log on and send it to her. I get a longer lunch the next day.

[@SeaCrestInNOut]

Exactly how it should be. If they can outsource to other countries, they should be ok with domestic remote workers.

[@dpayneless1962]

Reality, from all over the world. And there is the rub for future American workers.

[@dpayneless1962]

@@SeaCrestInNOutBut domestic remote workers are more expensive. Smaller companies will hire what’s familiar, but as companies grow they will need to become competitive. And as my friend found out, it is so much easier to lay off a face on a screen than someone in person.

[@theweakthemightythecrazy]

Nation wide talent is huge. Your company is ran by smart people.

[@chrisdale7005]

I work at a corporation that is at least 70 % remote. We do teams meetings and I feel we work well. Two guys are almost 100% remote. One guy is works from home on fridays. I leave two days a week to pick up my child from school then finish the day from home. That flexibility for me is huge.

[@az_tax7797]

every company has 20-80 and if you are part of the 20 percent of employees who do 80 percent of the work you can work from the moon. i have worked remote since 2005

[@994pt4]

elon proved that with twitter 🤣🤣🤣

[@quantumblurrr]

Bruh there's no excuse for believing in the debunked 80-20 rule in 2025 lol, it is literally a line pushed by CEOs

[@theweakthemightythecrazy]

Not being stuck in traffic = nothing companies can do to change this. .

[@speedy0]

Andy Jassy, Amazon CEO, clearly wants to reduce his workforce size with this mandate for various reasons, including improving operational profit to please its shareholders. This guy and his HR leaderships are clearly out of touch with their employees and the dynamics of their teams and organizational functions. Most engineers don‘t like working at Amazon.

[@joannevans9629]

The last time I sat in a conference room for a physically present meeting I watched feeling totally detached. I watched as people talked about the topics and felt like watching through my eyes in that meeting was no different than on a zoom call. I could not figure out a benefit of being physically present. When the meeting ended everyone high tailed it out of the room. The negative I could see was the loss of time in walking back to their desk or office. So, for a meeting onsite you lose the time before and after. My guess is that forcing RTO has to do with owning those buildings. Hum, we're paying bank for buildings we don't use - that we can't get rid of.

[@DwightStJohn-t7y]

and control. but in person I can tell who's BS'ing and being a playa and LIEING. !!!

[@mathewdeu3328]

Hybrid is the way to go......forcing them to come to the office 5 days a week is not efficient or cost effective. Also people tend to ask for more sick leaves and days off when there forced to come to a office 5 days a week.

[@harrychu650]

The five day mandate seems to be a precursor for layoffs. Meaning, they hope enough workers quit before they have to do the layoffs and expensive severance package. This is a sign of a weakening economy.

[@RJones-tn5vg]

Yep

[@ConfusedDesertCobra-kw9fc]

Or he overhired. I work for a F15 company and we are still remote and hiring at a normal clip. Jassey is just an idiot snd hired anything with a pulse a few years ago with no plan for the future

[@Mohammed-yc6nn]

I would honestly prefer to go jobless than even contemplate going into the damn office 5days a week when i can do that damn job at home.

[@BOlek-j6q]

Your employer can arrange that for you

[@johnbollenbacher6715]

If your company has difficulty setting up multi person, face-to-face meetings electronically, it has a problem. Upgrade your system.

[@JoeDurbs]

I have been able to get two new people on my team, as we work from home. They left their old company because they insisted on them coming back to the office

[@artakopyan8474]

Hiring?

[@KK-pm7ud]

Only two people?

[@bluefinch6504]

This is a suspect comment.

[@juliejordan3090]

Anyone who works on a computer all day is doing ‘deep work’ - that’s what digital work requires today in terms of focus.

[@VintageTVMemories]

Why isn't government making it illegal to fire someone for refusing to work from the office? If someone can do the same job with the same results from home, LET THEM. It blows my mind that companies can get away with this.

[@bluefinch6504]

How old are you? Is this your first job? Seriously. Your employer will always win. Employees don’t run the shop.

[@selenasimmons6653]

Sadly some have sued and lost

[@asafmn1983]

For sure! It’s awesome that companies are seeing the perks of hybrid work-happier employees, better retention, and stable performance. When folks have the option to work remotely a few days a week, they feel more engaged and satisfied, which benefits everyone. It’ll be cool to see how more businesses adapt to this flexible approach!

[@RichCarlson-xf1tv]

Hybrid is here to stay. People have families to care for, don't like forcing themselves to wake up at a time they're not ready to be awake, and don't like driving in traffic jams and icy roads. Also, the internet is more sophisticated than it was 30 years ago. MAYBE if there were more hours in a day and more days in a week, something everyone has wished at one time or another.

[@DwightStJohn-t7y]

1980 I was a volunteer Treasurer and came in at 7 a.m. commuting, worked until 9 a.m. when my job started elsewhere. buddy did the same thing. We got MORE DONE without phones ringing, interruptions, bs, sales calling. Then when I owned a moving company i booked FOUR days and left Friday wide open Friday is always insane, as people simploy didn't PLAN. We went 20 stright days, shut down for ten (truck repair; blankets cleaned, collections on commercial accounts). A four day week you'll get AS MUCH done in any warehouse/manuf. than working/commuuting FIVE. Three day weekend every time.

[@matt.stevick]

im retired. working from home and office both have significant benefits in their own way. it is a case by case basis as to which is better.

[@LLCoolJ_25]

I’d say in office is good for going to networking events and maybe the occasional get together with a coworker. I think that’s what people want though. They want a choice and do in person interactions when it is worth it. I don’t mind being in person for opportunities, but I don’t need to sit at my office desk to only get on a call with most of my team and barely talk to anyone else in the office.

[@xpkareem]

I've worked in lots of offices in lots of roles. Actual work is like 2 hours of the day for almost everyone. The rest is meetings, walking to and from the bathroom, copier, meetings, water cooler, coffee machine, etc-, talking to sally at the front desk, reading pointless emails.

[@GutterFlower-t2u]

Exactly

[@shinetta87]

Hahahahhaaa I’m lucky to even get 2 hours of actual work done in the office EVER!

[@LLCoolJ_25]

Haha, yes. I probably look like all I do is screw off at the office, but I still meet deadlines and execute tasks (I can prove some of that with the recognition emails I get from teammates/customers). I get up every hour if I can because I care about letting my body move because that’s what the human body was designed to do. I see way too many people who sit for hours and look miserable. Refuse to have that mental block anymore.

[@midiminion6580]

RTO makes sense when you live for your job. Has nothing to do with productivity. The key message from RTO mandates is that you should live for your job and your job only. I don't care what I get out of you as I get all of your attention.

[@Candide1776]

Had to turn off this one b/c the interviewer kept cutting off the expert Yale lecturer. It's painful to watch.

[@scott2228]

My company required everyone to go fully in office. So now I work for a different company. Be good at what you do and you will always have options.

[@alanthomasgramont]

Engineers, coders, etc need their own office to work. For years I worked shoulder to shoulder spending 8+ hours with noise canceling headphones trying to avoid all the distractions. Then having these in person meetings where we are swapping around who is connected to the projector to talk about coding and what is happening. Using a whiteboard only to have to transcribe after to meeting what was decided. In office is a mess.

[@WhiteCarbon7]

My company did this through 2022 ans 2023. Old people with old mindsets are the CEOs and executives. They grew up in the office and dont care how their rules affect each team. They just want one rule, move onto the next decision.

[@Maryanne-xo5ip]

yep, typically men who don't value or see the value in having a happy, productive homelife

[@dawls07]

I bet traffic in Seattle was a lot better back in the boomer working prime 😜 days too. The commute to work and back is going to define cause burnout for Amazon employees. They will get less sleep and their work day will be extended with a long commute.

[@ag4eng]

With $4/gal gas and high-crime cities make 5 -day impractical. It doesn’t make sense for office admin work, but on-site works better when you need a lab environment.

[@msh104utube]

I make a high salary, have multiple degrees, and work at a tech company. If my company asked for 5 days a week in office, I would make them fire me, then take my skillset to their competitor, and work tirelessly to bring them down . Like Michael Jordan said I would take it personally. LOL. In all seriousness, like the video said, some types of work are better done in an home environment where focus is easier to achieve. The office is a zoo, and engineers and deep work employees fare better at home.

[@zionen01]

Funny thing is I was working at a place with offshore team making over 70% of the development team WFH in their corresponding country, and management forced local teams to the office 5 days week.

[@controllerbrain]

I'm happy to work longer hours when I WFH. But in the office I want out at 5pm.

[@mjg239]

In the same way private equity has incentives to keep prisons and correctional facilities full the same applies to corporate workers returning to offices. Employees generate money for the building, the land, eateries, the neighboring businesses, etc.

[@amatuer2]

I have worked from home since 2021. I am happier and my boss does not care where I work. I am productive and do not miss the "office scene" at all.

[@EYEH8RTO]

Hello, this is your boss. We are returning to the office next week. It will be a hybrid schedule with 5 days required in the office and 2 days work from home. See you in your cubicle next week for collaboration.

[@amatuer2]

@@EYEH8RTO hahaha , 🤣 good one :)

[@westnash]

You being happy is not what you were hired to do. You may not be an abuser and a great employee but many others arent. It only works if your effort and output and measured and monitored.

[@westnash]

@@EYEH8RTO Trump will say to the Federal workforce....show up Monday and every day thereafter or dont bother coming back at all.

[@mocheen4837]

I love working from home because I save 3 hours a day by not commuting and having to get dressed up everyday. I basically gained 15 hours of free time per week plus no commute stress. I am usually very busy at work since they tend to give me the problem projects to fix.

[@At_the_Garden]

Before the pandemic many companies had a hybrid form of work. It was basically a break from the long commutes and didn’t hurt productivity. A person could be working on a project with staff in three different offices, even different countries. Going to the office to communicate with people that weren’t in your office wasn’t more effective but we did it.

[@andrewvo8395]

They have all this real estate, they can’t have it sit empty. It’s also a good way to get people to quit to reduce headcount.

[@clsxx9]

No company will force me to go back - I’ll quit any day vs comply.

[@monicarenee7949]

Hybrid is perfect as a compromise. We have 2 “core days” where the whole team is expected to be in the office and the other day we choose to be in the office, for 3 days in the office total. I might have a rough Monday and need to work from home but get so much more done. I schedule in person meetings and lunches more around core days for face to face interaction. Why we would remove flexibility is beyond me.

[@Blaze6432]

Except when it's not. I've worked Hybrid jobs and we were still having almost every meeting on teams and everything on a computer. I'm not saying I never need to see my co-workers, but why bother with hybrid if work is more efficient from home.

[@RafaelSilvaGrisa]

At the end of the day, it is all about results, balanced by the power dispute between employees and employers. I do believe in the hybrid flexible scenario in which both companies and employees get the most of it.

[@jessaabraham]

I enjoy wfh. There is a lot of time for us to work and do personal work. However long term I don’t know as a human this is a good thing. Why are housewives the most depressed? It’s not just that little ones are difficult to manage rather it’s not having a purposeful adult interaction on a daily basis. If you are in IT coding or something related to just working on machine, you know like me you don’t like people nor interacting with them. It actually slows productivity. Especially these non technical people around eats your head and waste too much time holding useless meetings. I think most of our time goes in meetings. From home you can log into meeting but ignore it and keep working. Also we can avoid such people to a major extent. However long term there is a price to pay for self. As a company a favor they could do is retain technical talents so that they know what is being done and let people do their job. Mandate flexible work. Else you are not going to retain strong talents. They are precious and few; and they will find some where else to work. I don’t know how many such talents care about money.

[@Helthurian]

This was a good and rational segment which is refreshing for this subject. The guy who said that managers should choose is 100% correct. Top down approach makes no sense for retention of top talent.

[@Shaojeemy]

If I come in 5 days a week, my phone is off on weekends and after 5pm. I don’t care if the applications are down. You won’t let me work from home, I will never log on from home. I delete Teams from my phone, zoom from my computer, and only have access in office.

[@XiusTV]

As long as you do your work and you're meeting whatever goals are set for your job. It shouldn't matter where you are. This forced in-office thing is the dumbest thing that they have done so far

[@tobin8157]

I will never work (in office) 5 days a week again. That horse is outta the barn. That is an outdated system. If my employer asked me to come in 5 days a week, I would just leave. I would have a better paying job by the following Monday.

[@andrewp4220]

It depends on the job and the role that individual plays within the organization. That being said senior leadership wants everyone in.

[@JohnSmith-k1x]

The issue here is not that people do not want to return to work ,rather they can't, And here is why when remote work started people who had two cars sold one, and people who did not need to come into the office moved out of state from were there work head quarters were for a better life, And these same workers never thought they would be asked to return to in person work. These same people who moved out of state and change there living habits to co-inside with there remote working made a very bad choice and now they may lose there jobs because of there mistakes and not the company they work for. What do you think. ??? Thanks

[@markG888]

Higher % of WFH, means that you will now be competing against cheaper outsourced work from other countries (mostly 3rd world English Speaking countries like India, Eastern Europe and the Philippines.

[@bobtuiliga8691]

These are urban elites who are so out of touch with the real economy. Yet they expect their supermarket shelves to be stocked and their soy caramel macchiato latte with no foam to be ready in less than 5 minutes.

[@Jeevanmn]

Division of labour, my friend!

[@STR00m482]

The thing is our economy and technology has evolved. It doesn’t take all of us to be at the supermarket for it to run anymore.

[@HelloWorld-hb7yt]

depends on type of work, Tech workers can work from home.

[@mucool123]

Local restaurants, clothing services and most importantly commercial property mortgages. Those will go bankrupt if ppl don't go to office and if banks go out then lot of jobs will go out too. Ppl in companies like Amazon are making a lot of money but its not coming back in economy and ppl are working in low cost tie 3 cities and making Seattle salaries pushing tier three homes up Moreover, if remote is permitted then lot of jobs will be outsourced as the work will be done for third of the cost.

[@Yasco-de-Jp]

That means tech workers in the third world country (cheap labor) can replace tech workers in the US.

[@mucool123]

@@Yasco-de-Jp not just third world but also Mexico, Canada etc....if quality is same then why not 1/3 cost right? Organizations are for profits not welfare

[@HelloWorld-hb7yt]

@@Yasco-de-Jp true, it's matter of time. as overseas tech workers are getting better, and most of the time are harder working.

[@jeremydee5424]

I am not trying to say who’s right or wrong….but….im finding it interesting that during the interviews do employers not ask the person if they are ok with the working conditions…including scheduling?? During the first week of employment…do we not sign papers agreeing to their terms of employment…?? I don’t get why we are in this place….perhaps we need to be more vigilant when being asked…?? Perhaps we should request clarification on their positions…?? Read the paperwork more carefully…??

[@mangarang]

There are very few white collar jobs on Earth that need an employee’s active engagement for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Most desk job workloads can be handled with a 6 hour workday or less. And many can be done with fewer than 5 days a week.

[@unionash1]

If companies actually paid their employees adequate salaries to live near the office, employees would have no problem returning to the office 5 days a week.

[@KK-pm7ud]

Lie

[@dawls07]

And if the commute wasn’t so terrible. Seattle traffic is no joke.

[@JohnSmith-k1x]

Someone said that this mandatory return to work is a way for companies to fired a lot of employees, What do you think. ??? Thanks

[@shogunrua1040]

Some people bought houses in the middle of nowhere thinking they would never need to step back to the office. They took that risk and even one day a week is too much for them now, although it’s pretty reasonable.

[@tygressblade]

I work for an airline. As an essential worker, it is easier and safer for me to work from home. As long as I have power, I can work. I also worked from during the pandemic for 22 months while on dialysis.

[@ConfusedDesertCobra-kw9fc]

I think the employees need to start publicly calling Jassey out. He over hired recklessly, that’s why he has to reduce headcount. This really is entirely on him and ruining people’s lives because of his mistakes.,

[@wwlee5]

CNBC: please note that the comma comes before the end of that single quotation mark. That's standard American English.

[@dionmancenido6035]

I go in the office, swipe my badge, get a coffee, sit at a table, crack open my laptop, send a few emails, take a few zoom calls, and by the time my coffee is done, I’m swiping out to go home. Office day check!

[@forman208]

That still sucks you have to wake up extra early, get ready, commute, just to do a bunch of tasks you could easily do from home.

[@michaeld.3779]

Some employers mistrust their employees, and/or haven't the skills to know how to monitor their employee's workload and production. Some employers just have to "oversee" their employees to display their positions of power over them. You know, the boss who loves to be the king on the top of the hill--and wants everyone to know it. If, as an employer' you see an employee whose production has fallen from working at home, then bring them back to the office. But if the employee's production remains the same, or has increased from working at home, the wise thing to do is continue to allow this.

[@anthonyerdenetuguldur5609]

Hybrid is way better than 5 days. Remote is even better than hybrid (no traffic, no extra expense for gas and lunch, you can start work early and work late).

[@systemchris]

Some owners/managers actually prefer being power hungry over their employees lives rather than making the business successful, that's why those people are pushing 5 day in the the office weeks...

[@BOlek-j6q]

No it’s called “ going to work” ,

[@systemchris]

@@BOlek-j6q er I work remote, make tonnes of money for my employer because that's what my employer cares about not wanting to see me work, but see the rewards of my work

[@Novilicious]

This is 100% of getting rid of middle management and excess employees. Hey, I actually like going to work so I’m game, but this is NOT right for many people, and I know this will attrit more women

[@pensivepenguin3000]

The only people in the comments complaining about remote work are those who are just jealous they can’t do it. It’s not my fault you’re still working at a gas station at 45, guy 😂

[@Mike-dd8bd]

Pretty ignorant statement here. Most highly specialized fields and jobs are not remote. Just google highest paying careers and you will see what I mean.

[@pensivepenguin3000]

@@Mike-dd8bd that doesn’t conflict with my original statement

[@Catrina-w6p]

Yup.. these people are just being lazy lol @Mike-dd8bd

[@Clickbait540]

For me it’s not jealousy. It’s just funny how yall got too comfortable working from home and then bam!!!! Back to the office👉 or quit, “cause we don’t really need you anyway “

[@994pt4]

@@Clickbait540 yep....EVERYONE is replaceable and corporate knows it! 🤣

[@PedestrianPony]

To be clear, this is only a mandate for the lowest workers. Do you seriously think these rules are going to apply to executives or even senior managers? No. They're still going to work from home whenever they want. They just want the grunts in the box where they can keep an eye on them. It's all BS.

[@paulschaaf8880]

My company is doing this soon and I've already told my boss that depending on how it's enforced I will probably just retire rather than comply with that. If you want me in the office 5 days a week 8 hours a day, double my salary. Otherwise forget it.

[@TMendocino]

I work for a biotech firm. Our clients are all over the world. My headquarters is in Boston, and I live in the Bay Area. Most of my associates live all over the world. So, the horse has left the barn. The remote technology is amazing. 56% of the US, have full remote or hybrid. They are going to get the best talent.

[@spidalack]

It's all about power. It's bad for business, it's bad for employee moral and it's bad for productivity. But the managers need to fuel the power trip.

[@PercyHubner]

D. Joyner , Aetna / CVS should restructure the chain of command and reevaluate operation management , managers, supervisors and delegated assistants in charge. It's been proven that they do not work in the servicing and caring of the health care program or the process of caring for retires 's benefits , they have forgotten how to properly administer. It seems that they are more concerned with workforce statistics and adhering instead of the philosophy for the national Medicare program to just supply workforce statistics, which the philosophy of the nationwide Medicare program is lost. Aetna / CVS seem to be more concerned with satisfying their investors with talks of recent acquisitions not caring for the retired health needs ..

[@ham9187]

Everyone depends upon recruiting. If Amazon can recruit then Andy can get his way.

[@oma_gunner]

wfh is best for most people! even when hybrid a lot of time is wasted walking around the company grounds and hanging out with just your 1 or 2 buddies and talking crap, eating lunch, then leaving early.

[@labyrinth242]

Why aren’t they bringing back offshore jobs back to the USA so we can collaborate better and interact in one place together.

[@mocheen4837]

I work three days a week from home and have four days off each week. I have no desire to go back to the office.

[@mikebowerstv]

Company: “we care about the environment.” Same company responsible for putting thousands of more cars on the road. WFH should be the norm for jobs that can be done remotely.

[@jamiezenichi1017]

Amazon is already planning on firing 14k managers at AWS. So, this mandatory 5 day return to office mandate will make it easier to determine which managers are let go.

[@weston.weston]

The University of Texas Austin made news a few months ago because they are REQUIRING employees to return to the office, no more remote work. 😕 🤷

[@cate9963]

The top-down attitude of the CEO is just annoying. If a hybrid work system works for productivity and financials, why demand workers to go back to work for 5 days a week?

[@mattferderer469]

Everyone is ignoring Amazon needing to meet tax incentives for hiring X employees that live in the city of their office. Virginia has 20k per employee tax incentive that their legislature agreed to for example. If these incentives don’t work, Amazon will have less bargaining power the next place they try to build as everyone will point to the failed Virginia incentives.

[@montuedge]

Horrible...commute is terrible.

[@JigglyPKMN]

A company whose upper management is that inflexible is probably not a company to work for.

[@alphaomega1351]

The problem is they all will eventually do the same thing. 😳

[@oneforthemoney5579]

Hybrid is absolutely different than five days a week. Not having to commute on Mondays and Fridays is amazing

[@TKnuckles333]

The true reason for RTO demands is so obvious. Execs can’t chase office romance when people are working remote.

[@blueman1470]

Must be nice to have a job where you can be home and does not destroy your body.

[@thetravellersboots]

In my opinion people switch jobs a lot more when they are working from home. I don't think that Employers like that very much.

[@jokinproductions8450]

Because they have more time to think and prepare. They want people that are permanently physical and mentally busy so they are enslaved by the company

[@thetravellersboots]

@jokinproductions8450 correct

[@Iamyanni99]

I only apply to hybrid jobs now and I always ask about work from home flexibility in job interviews.

[@glostergloster6945]

RTO 5 days a week is all about corporate landlords and rents. Thats it.

[@timmanto1022]

Give me a 4 day work week and an assigned seat I'll be in everyday of that workweek.

[@FreedomFinanceFun]

They also outsource work to remote workers in other countries, but they don't care because it's low wages

[@lak1294]

Great to hear that hard evidence is now confirming that hybrid works better overall, is more productive and more flexible, and promotes employee retention.

[@ChicagoJ351]

As long as companies exist that can offer people decent jobs that are hybrid or fully remote , then people can simply go work there. Who cares if they want you to work 5 days. Just quit and work for someone who isn’t going to dictate these terms to you.

[@Bookworm214-y3d]

I work from home but my job is in San Francisco so I bought a house in pa and live a good life here

[@joeshmooo5327]

Of course a professor is going to say that, the reason the teach is so they don't have to go to the office 5 days a week. When you work for someone else they set the rules.

[@jokinproductions8450]

No, the rules are set by the State, since the rules are what make employers own companies. So no, they do not and can not set the rules. We live and work inside a legal system.