Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas | Group Reaction & Discussion

Today we transcend space and time while listening to the Cocteau Twin's dream pop classic, Heaven or Las Vegas
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[@ijustneedmyself]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned it yet, but she's very much singing lots of gibberish. So glad you guys have discovered this masterpiece. Babby, my guy! We dig the same tracks! Cherry-Coloured Funk and Fifty-Fifty Clown are my absolute faves from this album. Listen to more, even if it's not a recorded reaction. Treasure is awesome. Four-Calendar Cafe, Blue Bell Knoll, Milk & Kisses, and The Pink Opaque all have amazing tracks on them.

[@Grithron2]

Odd comment. This was the beginning of the era when the vocals became comprehensible - by her standards anyway. The only real "gibberish" era was Blue Bell Knoll era. At other times, when you get used to the mispronunciations and playing with dialecs, it's possible to discern a lot of what she's saying - if you have the literary reference points. (There's lots of bricolage going on).

[@ijustneedmyself]

@@Grithron2 Is it fair to say a lot of it's nonsense then? Because even if she's not using gibberish on this and other albums the lyrics still don't make any kind of sense. Kudos to you if you can interpret them all.

[@No.Man.Is.An.Island9]

I also dig those two tracks the most :)

[@ijustneedmyself]

@@No.Man.Is.An.Island9 They're the best! I might as well be in heaven when I hear them.

[@JohnM...]

@@Grithron2 The ‘gibberish’ (opera singers call it ‘coloratura’, is the very thing that’s most appealing about the Cocteau Twins. This album is their WORST. Too commercial, to many comprehensible lyrics. Bluebell knoll was the Best production wise with lots of variety, but the rawness and anger of Garlands is PURE Cocteau Twins.

[@matisebenign]

Fifty-Fifty Clown made y'all smile 😢 man I love this band so much!

[@willoverdoseonmusic]

Heaven or Las Vegas is one of the greatest songs evrrrrrr

[@isaiahtowers1865]

Bobby “it was transcendent… spectacular” Jerry “that’s was fun”

[@THX_1138]

I find it amusing that in this video Jerry straight-up looks like Robin Guthrie (the Cocteau Twins guitarist).

[@jimmybongos6190]

I thought the same thing seeing the thumbnail 🎉🎉

[@michaelkennedy1770]

never get tired of this epic album - amazing

[@NatanCaetano]

This album took me a few listens to get fully into, but once it did... Damn. It's just transcendent. What miss Fraser accomplishes vocally without even us understanding what she's saying is unbelievable.

[@roccoxxxx1]

I feel like dream pop is a sub-genre of Cocteau Twins

[@nessaseetah1805]

enjoyed. the editing is a little heavy, but I appreciate you guys reacting to one of my favorite albums! For a real whirling intro, play Victorialand on headphones... it's a pleasure!

[@keepitg4555]

I love this album cherry colored funk is a masterpiece

[@thesound-chameleonman3580]

Cocteau Twins are amazing. I know Elizabeth Fraser's sister! and Simon Raymonde has signed vinyl for me. - C

[@ouime60]

The guy on the right got pulled in by the siren-like qualities of the Cocteau Twins straight away, Jerry took a little longer, but there is no going back now 😁

[@christianhoneyman6779]

Great reaction to a great album by my all time favorite band. 😀😃😄😁

[@Jontor11]

Great reaction you guys! This album is a masterpiece. It sounds like a bit easy listening at first, but when you have heard it a few times all the songs just settles in. They beautifully all just fits. My personal favourite is 'I wear your ring'. The end of that one is just heavenly, and I wish it would last forever.

[@jbullets5964]

Love this review and you guys have equal parts insight and humor. 🤘🖤

[@thesound-chameleonman3580]

Victorialand is a masterpiece worth a listen to.

[@davorjuric1309]

Victorialand is beautiful!

[@karlton7841]

Most songs has no lyrics, just beautiful vocals.

[@micahnewman]

It's fun seeing Gen-Zers trying on godly music like CT for the first time. It feel like nothing as creative and special as the stuff I got into as a teenager in the late 80s/early 90s will ever happen again. An inauspicious start with Babby(?!) saying "Cocktail Twins" at the very beginning! It's funny that Jerry actually looks like Robin Guthrie (CT guitarist) but seems more of a superficial bro-dude. 🙃 Come to think of it, their reaction is pretty much what mine was at first, "this is nice"... and then it's like the more I listened to it over the years, the more I liked it and the more I liked it until eventually I was an utter fanatic.

[@willynilly2545]

I just discovered your channel and just watched your listen to KATE BUSH HOUNDS OF LOVE. Bush is in my top 5 artists of all time and so are the COCTEAU TWINS so I was so happy to find this on your channel. Other great albums from them are TREASURE, THE PINK OPAQUE, VICTORIALAND. Thanks for listening outside the norm from the other KZbinrs.

[@Andrew-cy7jo]

This and Treasure are the best dream pop albums good choice!

[@Missjunebugfreak]

Treasure is my fave Cocteau Twins record. I'd also recommend Victorialand as another great choice from their catalog.

[@timdraper4559]

@@Missjunebugfreak Oh, Victorialand, Treasure and Blue Bell Knoll are the best for me depending on mood. Milk and Kisses is also very underrated, great album.

[@billida]

Blue Bell Knoll is a masterpiece ^^

[@kolnidur_]

Twin Peaks? David Lynch is a huge fan of Elizabeth Fraser! He tried to use their song/cover Song To The Siren for Blue Velvet but he couldn't because rights were too expensive

[@davorjuric1309]

He used it in Lost Highway 10 years later.

[@kolnidur_]

@@davorjuric1309 yup

[@patricksmith4424]

The Cocteau twins were total genius, they produced the most gorgeous music in the 80s/90s. All there albums are brilliant but heaven or Las Vegas is a total masterpiece. I love pitch the baby and cherry coloured pink. It's a shame their music goes way above most peoples heads, including these dudes!

[@robertwhitford4723]

Everybody's likes what they like' Cocteau Twins catalogue is progressive and diverse.

[@jerry9621]

this album is SO GOOD

[@gumishq]

glad you bring up my beloved Cocteaus

[@willynilly2545]

Get into Lisa Gerrard next. She was the lead singer of DEAD CAN DANCE. Her first solo album THE MIRROR POOL is fantastic!

[@agdgdgwngo]

Loved your reaction. I started with this album a year or two ago and they've become one of my favourite bands. I always heard about since I'm a big MBV fan and they're cited as an influence. They just make heavenly, gorgeous music. Especially Cherry Coloured Funk and 50/50 Clown, just had me doing double takes. I had to stop what I was doing and listen again. To me, every other album is worth exploring but IMO if you want a similar vibe, transcendent beauty you'd most enjoy Blue Bell Knoll. It has to me the catchiest and most beautiful songs in Caroline's Fingers and Cico Buff. Everything else is brilliant too.

[@Missjunebugfreak]

Hope you react to Treasure next. That album is as amazing as this one. More gothic in places.

[@JCWiley2300]

This was very nice to watch,....I just can't stop myself from clarifying something. Cocteau Twins were pop/rock, they didn't do genre music. "Dream pop" was a descriptor coined by contemporary music journalists to describe the way certain bands/artists of that era sounded like-- Cocteau Twins, Julee Cruise, the Sundays, etc. It sounds pedanticI lol but it's true.

[@manosduras1]

Hit their album Garlands. Darker

[@franko6677]

My first video I’m watching from you guys …CT made impossibly beautiful music, it certainly changed my life. They inspired many bands that came after (Beach House for example) but nobody ever really compared and I doubt anyone ever will. “Treasure” is their next most famous record…less polished production, more gothic, but just as beautiful. Then “Blue Bell Knoll” which came out in between the two. But all of their albums as well as their EPs are worth hearing, though their debut is very dark/goth and not dream pop at all.

[@eduardoalegriarampante639]

Cherrie Colured Funk is AMAZING. I feel it's the most unique song in the whole album. The Title Track must be played at my funeral 😆 It's amazing to see young people discovering the music of ones youth...

[@aesthetic4829]

You guys should definitely check out Songs About Leaving by Carissa’s Wierd. If you guys could get it in the rotation that’d be dope 🙌

[@d333ds]

vouch but its also kind of fucked up that youre trying to destroy their mental health like that

[@ronaldsecmezsoy-urquhart226]

It is funny how much Jessy looks like a young Robin Guthrie😂 Stop trying to understand the lyrics, just listen and enjoy the experience.

[@gumishq]

Fotze is indeed German and it translates as a four letter word for female genitals - I'm not sure Elisabeth Fraser realised that, though

[@Grithron2]

She absolutely realised it - refer to the press archive at the official website. Naturally she didn't quite admit what that particular song was about, but...we know.

[@connor0wen]

you guys should listen to twin fantasy by car seat headrest!! it’s my fav album oat and i think you guys might appreciate it

[@garthlyon]

Flaming Lips are from good ol’ OKC!

[@JCWiley2300]

Also... I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but you know after Heaven or Las Vegas where you say it's just a friendly Jefferson Starship-like song and beat, but without the fake drums (delightful quote, by the way!)? A bit of trivia: All the drums on this entire album are fake. Drum machines! Not an acoustic drum or percussion on the entire LP! Mostly programmed by Robin Guthrie.

[@enriquemoon]

Did he say " cocktail twins"?

[@andriswood5434]

Dream pop!? The irony here is all the best Goth bands aren't "Goth". But "Dream Pop" is new to me. Back in the day it was just alternative music.

[@jimschender4497]

Cocteau Twins lyrics are always hard to come by. Mostly because Liz often used "made up" words focusing more on sound than meaning.

[@darkforest3333]

Pink See Through Fantasia (baton rouge)

[@d.s.9692]

These lyrics don't really matter. If you've read them, you'll realize they're way too oblique to be immediately relatable. They're very artsy and weird, but they seem to center around the idea of pregnancy, childbirth, babies, and parenthood. EDIT: I agree. This should not be possible. This should be forbidden knowledge.

[@Sdea1903]

“I have no idea what she’s saying” Yeah mate, neither did she. Its a thing of beauty. Wolf in the Breast. Wow

[@leonardsimonis2376]

Yeah, Fotze is german and it basically is an insult, translated it means "c*nt", but could also be used in the meaning of "b*tch" as well. I don't know why they did chose this word for this title....

[@the21stcenturypainter66]

They're Scottish. Robin Guthrie himself would refer to his band as The Cocks

[@arxg1934]

you gotta react to treasure hiding and pur by then you would transcend lol

[@lookoutleo]

Love love this band , have all the vinyl as it came out in the 80s and 90s. You don't understand her cause she made up the language

[@winnie-m9h]

And Elizabeth is Scottish.

[@ultraconservative]

Jerry is half-dead, half-alive.

[@BoyTimeChannel]

This is true

[@fadthetic]

Cool

[@JoaoPedro-lb6mr]

Do TREASURE. Please!!!

[@joeboutaugh5912]

She sings phonics

[@willynilly2545]

These are the lyrics to CHERRY COLOURED FUNK. Elizabeth Fraser mostly used her voice as an instrument and would either not say words or just use words phonetically to make the sound she wanted to achieve. This album was made around the time she actually started writing lyrics. Beetles and eggs and blues and pour a little everything else You steam a lens stable eyes and glass Not get pissed off through my bird lips as good news Still we can find our love down from behind Down far behind this fabulous, my turn rules Beetles and eggs and blues and bells and eggs and then blued Beetles and eggs and blues and pour a little everything else You steam a lens stable eyes and glass Not get pissed off through my bird lips as good news You'll hang the hearts black and dull as the night We hanged your pass and start being as you in ecstasy Still being cried and laughed at before Should I be sewn in hugged I can by not saying Still being cried and laughed at from light to blue And should I be hugged and tugged down through this tiger's masque? And should I be sung and unbroken by not

[@lavitroladeldiablo]

Robin Guthrie....is that your son?

[@voxsilen]

😂🤣

[@stef1074]

Excuse me but they are Bristish, unless you figure out that London is in the US...

[@calecurphey6135]

This is one of my favorite albums. It was obviously Jerry's idea. Not!

[@robertwhitford4723]

Lose the lables.

[@alextaylor2551]

Ugh- kill me with the cuts. The worst review ever

[@bababooey2731]

the cuts are there so the video doesn’t get removed by the DMCA. If you want to hear the songs in full listen to it from official videos or music streaming services

[@carmencelesteu]

Slowdive souvlaki next please!!

[@BoyTimeChannel]

I have it on my list so it might be coming soon! - Babby

[@ijustneedmyself]

Seconded!