Codex: Orks (4th Edition) - Codex Compliant

[@TacticaImperialis]

The fact that *this* book is now worthy of Codex Compliant, my first ever purchase aside from White Dwarf in the entire hobby, makes ME feel old so I sympathise somewhat! Absolutely loved this book, with Wazdakka being my main character and the source for my entire army even now, and the insanity of my Shokk Attack Gun that *never* glued together. This is a proper nostalgia-fest for me, so thank you for covering this!

[@Le-cp9tr]

Before you went Enclaves

[@pippinvanriel]

Same man.. same

[@aidandegg4176]

My first purchases for the core games were Codex Orks....2nd ed! And Warhammer armies Orcs for 4th ed fantasy and my first ever WD was 137 - don't feel old, you are a veritable spring chicken mate! But god yeah the shokk attack gun was an absolute nightmare, especially in the days before I knew about esoteric and exciting things such as pinning models.

[@chaosundividedreborn]

Same here! I first bought this alongside assault on black reach a long time ago. My favourite ork codex ever!

[@ectogambit]

"Turns into a angry little squig for the rest of the game" So after the game the character turns back to normal.

[@WarhammerGeek]

I wonder how players worked that out in narrative campaigns. Would they follow the wording to a t and revert them back once the game ends? Or have them be a squig the whole campaign?

[@ectogambit]

@@WarhammerGeek For me it would depend on how much I like the character. ;)

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@WarhammerGeek I never had this happen to me, as I can't remember seeing Zogwort's Curse actually happening successfully, but I'd have said that they remained as a Squig, but an identical character would come and replace them.

[@luclin92]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer i would have made it dependant on if they killed Zogwort or not. at least in a narrative campaign since then you could even have parts where the player army is trying to kill him so they can undo the warp curse

[@busterbackster1]

Id say if the squig survived and he got far enough away he would change back

[@GreatgoatonFire]

Just here to respectfully ask that you cover GorkaMorka as a part of your fine series some time in the future.

[@G-Phunk]

I loved Gorkamorka would love this also

[@aaronbasham6554]

Yes, gorkamorka is my favorite supplement game.

[@G-Phunk]

Its Da Bezt!!

[@dreadedpixel9022]

Oh heck yes! That would be amazing, maybe also touch on the canceled dreamcast Gorkamorka game to?

[@GreatgoatonFire]

@@dreadedpixel9022 Oh yeah, that GorkaMorka game is the biggest What-If of 40K games.

[@chopmopjeter18]

This was the first codex I ever got back in High School when I started out in 5th. I thought it was radical, with how every unit had it's own lore and unique art; and the large chunks of writing on Ork society and kulture(especially about the bit of the Imperials trying to make sense of certain orky things, like how the hell their vehicles work and how their society functions day-to-day). And yes, I did scream WAAAGH, because the first match I ever played I still remember, mainly because I said something along the lines of "I will be declaring a Waaagh now" and my opponent said "Come on dude, these are Orks! You gotta scream it!" and he proceeded to scream WAAAGH! at the top of his lungs, with everyone else in the store's game room joining in. It was a thunderous noise that I'm sure the rest of the mall heard. Thanks for jogging some good memories Snip and Wob.

[@jasonulysess3652]

Hello KZbin algorithm. How about, just to be different you show a little kindness to some content creators I enjoy.

[@velstro]

Jokes on you, I was Mark of Nurgle *before* the pandemic.

[@juangonzalezdiaz7466]

I like how... let’s just say awkward, is seeing someone being nice by saying “be safe” while a minute ago they were casually explaining holes in the warp vomiting daemonich ichor and killing in the most horrendous of ways other sentinent, living, breathing, plastic miniatures. But that’s ok! I hope everyone is doing fine during these trying days so we can, someday, be back and play our favourite tabletop game again together

[@terminator572]

As if, ya'll be okay, just stay inside.

[@bobuscesar2534]

Why play tabletop when you can create a real Warband? Unfortunately modern cars aren't that easy to maintain or tune. A horse is also fine.

[@AndrewMcColl]

It's all good. Just remember to wash your hands with soap for at least 20 seconds after any summoning is complete.

[@G-Phunk]

Huh 🤣

[@captainme721]

lol. "days"

[@JurgenBlitz]

I never cared for Orks, but the message right at the end. at 13:50 , really got to me. Thanks a lot, guys, have my thumbs up

[@Grendelnz]

I playtested that codex for GW (i beleive my name is in the front as one of the ancient order of techpriests), and it was written with 5th in mind as we were playtesting that at the same time. i tried to get them to not make shoota boys so cheap as i told them there would be shoota spam, and they did it anyway :) If you think there were shenanigans in that book, you should have seen the stuff that did not make it.

[@ComissarYarrick]

Concidering how many blunt balance mistakes and broken rules flew by in that time, I've hard time beliving there was any playtesting done at all....

[@MizantropMan]

Yes, finally, you made a video on one of the codices that I grew up with. Now it's time for the one, the only, the legendary, the codex that made Ultramarines into what they are, the overwhelming creation of Mattius Wardius, which echoes through the ages in infamy. You know what I mean. Dew it.

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

Codex ultramarines 4th ed

[@SixWingZombi]

I think the best Looted Wagon I ever helped build during this time was a Looted Monolith. Straight up all we did was put it on its side and position Ork Boyz behind it to look like they're pushing it. It had Deff Rolla rules

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

Warboss kills another Warboss who is himself. Da Boyz: *Visible confusion*

[@j.bat.8235]

*vizible konfuzion

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

​@@j.bat.8235ah yes, thank you.

[@Dylan-em4wi]

You guys had some really funny cuts in this one. The emails bit, "the look", GATE KEPT - many laughs were had.

[@lordofuzkulak8308]

“Scatter dice...I just think they’re neat” - yep, gotta agree. Paused the vid just as the ‘thanks to our patreons’ was starting to scroll and noticed the first one is ADB; assuming that’s *the* ADB, then that too is neat. ;)

[@gileschenery2536]

This makes me feel old and I'm only 21.

[@anaterrofayinescrim]

If that is what makes you feel old, let me tell you this, I've played the game the ending song came from, and I've had to load it by tape player.

[@TheBradleyClarke]

7:04 "Deadpool vs The Punisher" Oh god that fight is just bizzare in my head Another brilliant Codex Compliant guys! Remember seeing this codex on shelves when I walked into Games Workshop for the first time; good times.

[@jamesgreen9480]

Your 2nd edition ork codex compliant inspired me to spend way too much on ebay and start an old ork army. Thanks!

[@frishnit]

Loved the closing sentinent: a proper 'n'aw, you guys!' Moment. Also bring on the Lost and the Damp!

[@jakebailey1636]

Fun fact. First introduction into 40k for me is the assault on Black reach starter; And this codex

[@Donnerbalken28]

For me it was Matt Wards Space Marine Codex but hey, i guess we all have to start somewhere.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Mine was one second and two third edition White Dwarfs, the hardback Fifth Edition rulebook, which someone gave to me with the FOURTH Edition Marine codex, so I couldn't play the game. I later sold the codex, and never picked up the fifth edition one.

[@Mrkabrat]

The Lost Waaagh also appeared in the 6th edition (and I do belive the 7th edition) Warhammer Fantasy: Orcs and Goblins army book. So its quite probable its was a recurring joke

[@Diedonacagedworld]

i have never played warhammer 40k but have read alot of the codex/books and paint miniatures as a hobby (im odd like that a suppose) but really enjoy your videos. thanks for all you two do for us fans. take care and be safe.

[@JennFaeAge]

I miss the old Skorcha, who doesn't love bikes with flamethrowers attached, the kind of thing that seems appropriately insane to drive around in for an Ork

[@k-leb4671]

Well unless the Orks find a way to properly protect the skorcha's fuel tank, that old model is incredibly impractical.

[@JennFaeAge]

@@k-leb4671 To be fair on that logic Orks shouldn't use a decent chunk of their vehicles, they're not too bothered with the whole practicality thing

[@EdFortune]

Cheers guys, great video and a reminder that I need to finish painting my Goffs. (The ork models I mean, I don't have Andrew Eldritch in the basement or something).

[@kaneyoung7439]

Can still use looted wagons. Just counts as using the stat line of whichever new buggy suits it best. The sections on conversions is something i really miss in the new codexes

[@jsm1978]

As someone fairly new to the hobby (less than a year), I find these looks back at the history of the game fascinating. I have really enjoyed this series. Keep up the good work.

[@snellers]

screw the story about the lost waagh give me a story about zogworts school of weirdboyz

[@troabarton69]

Between this and some of the other Ork lore I've been learning, I really want to make an army that's based around the idea of attacking planets with the nicest stuff (furniture, art, etc.) and just trashing it. Smear snotlings on the walls. Food Fights going on in all of the kitchens. And most importantly: putting their dirty, nasty feet on all of the furniture just because they want to cause a ruckus everywhere. It'd be like making Da Choppa's from AoS for 40k. Their war cry alonside "Waaaaaagh" would be "Fek your couch!" I'd call them the Ricketeers.

[@Swarbie8D]

I remember when my little brother got this book! I absolutely adored the cover art, and Zogwort and Wazdakka Gutsmek remain my favourite Ork characters ever

[@dekai7992]

13:10 "fourth edition buuuuu ... also kind of 5th edition codex" was the name of the game back then.

[@nicksurename5392]

12:55 In the current AoS Ogre book there is indeed a page of conversions! Its pretty neat! This book was also my first ever in the hobby, I still hold an awful lot of love for it!

[@fish8008]

With my birthday being on April 1st amongst all this chaos, I just wanna say I love you two and this video made it less of a trudge to get through till tomorrow and helping time pass by watching your videos

[@DerDavenWarrior]

Stuff like your message at the end are why you two are my favorite warhammer youtubers

[@maxbubba66]

Thanks you two. Looking forward to 'The Lost and Damned' as I got it for my 12th birthday when it was released. Ah, sweet nostalgia. Take care and stay safe. xxx

[@ethicaltoby7807]

@snipe and Wib " The standard tactic was to ram the vehicles with deff rolla" Incorrect this was the edition of black reach, everyone used twin linked rocket launchers that get to move in the scout phase, had turbo boost, toughness 5 bike rule, and a cover save. aka deff koptas.

[@visitingforgefather5997]

Fun fact in the timeline of this codex the writer, Phill Kelly, makes a covert reference to the Squats in Ghazghkulls lore section. It is in the battle of Golgotha part, (in the old lore Golgotha was a Squat world which at the behest of a Inquisitor Horst send reinforcements to Armageddon. The had been delayed due to Warpstorm and only arrived after the space marines had forced Ghazghkull off the planet and proceeded to hunt down many of his stranded Boyz.) when Yarrick was hunting down Ghazghkull. "Using his Tellyportas to make a series of lightning strikes, Ghazghkull quickly overcame the war engines and battle collossi of the planet's abhuman defenders."

[@johnbastion747]

Alt title: *Mum and dad complain about being old.*

[@TVforyourCats]

You guys are my new favorite channel. Thanks for being cool and hilarious AND knowledgeable.

[@CamelOfAll]

One of my favorite series on KZbin, glad to see it around in these turbulent times

[@gr1lly]

As a long time Orky fan, this was an interesting watch, as it was from after I stopped reading new books. It I’d love you to look at the original 1st edition Orks and Freebooterz books, they were so random.

[@Asbiorne]

Paused the video to say - SQUIGS WITH LITTLE HATS! All the yes! Especially the one in the Commissar hat, that really suited it! Also, yes, the "Wiat, that was how long ago?" thing gets worse - source - mid-40's, yo ;-)

[@itssupermandoe2434]

I get that it feels like we've been living in 2012 for almost a decade an I'm only 22

[@harbl99]

Maybe the Mayans were right...

[@loadeddice4696]

@@harbl99 If they're so smart how come they're all dead?

[@deanradbourne1104]

This codex is what 100% got me into the hobby and I can't believe it was 12 years ago

[@TheWarhammerplayer]

Ahh thank you for the bit at the end, it was super nice! Hope you two are safe and healthy as well

[@Lakefront_Khan]

I had no idea who you people where until just now but I will stay subscribed to you forever.

[@McFatson]

Ahh good times. I'm just now getting back into Orks but I played a whole lot of that codex back in the day. Nob wound cheese was fun, but man did my green tide always get shot off the board, even with a force field mek in my centerpiece battlewagon.

[@maximumghoul324]

Aww I still have this Codex, the first one I ever owned, I started 40k in 5th edition with Assault on Black Reach and got this Codex not long after. Also still own the nids Codex from the same era.

[@ianflurrance8438]

I remember going to the game store and picking this up when it came out! I started in 3 edition and it does not fee that long ago! I stopped playing only about a year and a half after it came out and just got back into the hobby. You are right about time seeming longer after 30!

[@machscga6238]

I miss this codex I played it through 5th edition

[@glitterboy2098]

as someone who started playing right as 4th came out, and dropped out around the time 6th started, this was pretty much "the" ork codex i was facing. saw more than a few attempts to kitbash that biker warlord too, we had a few cult of speed types in the scene were i was. too bad they never made a proper model for it, otherwise he might have stuck around.

[@WarhammerGeek]

I haven't watched the video yet but this is gonna be nostalgic. This was the first army I ever played so this was also my first ever codex. Update: I still have that old metal Deff Dread and I absolutely love it. The new four-armed ones are cool but the old metal one gives me "They call me Stompy" DOW feelings.

[@erikbrown8241]

My favorite dex. Loved the ramshackle rule for the trukks. Never knew what will happen. Miss them pie plates.

[@GamesbyMarcWolff]

Next Time!!!!!!!! Love you guys. Keep up the apocalyptically awesome work. Can't wait for the next one...

[@rukeyazu8669]

My first ever game of Warhammer was the assault of black reach box playing as Orks…. I was told to declare a Waaagh! You actually HAD to shout Waaagh! I was really nervous to do it so on the count of three everyone in the store (like, four people) all shouted with me. It was a great introduction to Warhammer.

[@Dracowinges]

12:00 can attest it does indeed work. Had more then once where a grot hit and wounded a alaitoc hemlock, and also taking a few heavy weapons hits that failed to wound them. Damn lucky grots. Also wow they went through 3 editions since I started and finished middle school?? Doesn't feel that long ago.

[@TheDirtysouthfan]

I was just watching your episode on the early 40k games, and I just realized that that episode is closer (in terms of time) to this codex than it is to your codex compliant review of it.

[@overlordgaming4839]

Speaking of scatter dice, I played a game in 5th were I had wiped out a large amount of my opponents forces (space wolves if you were curious) in the first two turns and was making a solid assault on there objectives with some aspect warriors and an avatar of khaine when his squad of long fangs with missile launchers and plasma cannons proceeded to score 7 direct hits in a row, completely halting my advance and turning the game from a surefire victory into a tie.

[@thejonathan130]

Have kids. The existential dread should subside when you have brand new little humans running around enjoying life, and show you all things for the very first time again.

[@sniperking390]

Sometimes when I'm rewatching codex compliant in parts of the video I start feeling anxious and I finally realized why: they are reusing the intro (which is great BTW.) but sped up where my reptile brain says "DANGER be careful". Like you can barely hear it over them talking but it is their.

[@nathac41]

Be safe my dudes! We'll make it through this bout of nurgles plague.

[@6Stevo]

Awesome nostalgic look back at a really good Codex. Thanks guys. Great stuff

[@beardwierd2783]

Repainting a finecast ghazghkull thraka , a zzzap gun and a scorcher model while watching this. Love your work!

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Hang on, couldn't you target anyone with the Squig-modifying spell? The Skaven "Curse of Thirteen" allows you to target ANYONE on foot and turn 2D6 of them into Clanrats.

[@EnragedOxygen]

Inedependent characters only.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@EnragedOxygen Huh. That's a bit dissapointing.

[@EnragedOxygen]

@@TheSmart-CasualGamer Turning some 300-400 pts HQ into a squig on a 4+ roll was dissapointing. Bear in mind, there was no way to resist spells back then.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@@EnragedOxygen Fair point. Not sure what you'd be taking to have a 400pt HQ choice in 5th Edition though.

[@Mrkabrat]

Thats why when you saw your opponent take a Grey Seer in WF you shot at it with *everything* . Or make it rout as fast as possible. Or keep your dispell scrolls at hand

[@youdontneedtoseehisidentif4939]

Thank you for this visual/audio content in these _interesting_ times; I hope you both stay hale and hearty, and I gift you this comment as an offering to the KZbin algorithm * _hallowed be the algorithm_ *

[@KuroRyu523]

Part of me wants to see what you make of my first space wolves codex (the 3rd ed suppliment that was active all the way though to 5th) They got all sorts of interesting rules like being scared of teleporters and the ability to use boltguns as close combat weapons (basically counting as boltpistols) not to mention being able to field leman russ tanks.

[@jamesbrunton9507]

You guys stay safe/well too. Love the videos and your channel, I'm from exactly the same generation so totally get how this makes you feel old! At this point I'm totally down with any codex!

[@garethwood8332]

I still have this book and fondly remember confounding most non-Ork players by taking no battlewagons or indeed vehicles of any kind unless they were Deff Dredds. Playing as Snakebites, I rarely bothered with even a mass assault, but usually just split my Boyz mobs into two groups. My favourite tactic being 40 of them ganging up on 10 space marines. Meks were great however. The KFF really gave the boyz a chance of surviving long enough to kill a Daemon Prince or Avatar of Khaine. Lootas however were best used in small numbers or kept right at the back of the board.

[@golgarisoul]

Definitely my favourite era of cover art for 40k codex covers.

[@Stovaa]

This book also committed the cardinal sin of describing the stats for the big shootas on bikes three different ways

[@hneugiii1245]

A great video. There are some of us out here who still play 4th & 5th, so more these would be great!

[@MonsterJail]

My first Codex and army, I converted a small WALL-E toy into a killa kan by adding a grot pilot and covering it with bits and plasticard

[@MrScottjeffs1982]

Hi guys, love your work. Would you please consider making a video regarding unexplored races in the 40k universe that are not represented in a miniature form ( and stuff like Zoats that just had a new miniature released as well or those crazy drones from Black stone). I think this will be very interesting to see what Xeno potential there is in 40k Universe.

[@Tinblitz]

This video allowed me to come to the realisation that I want a squad of Killa Kanz painted up like various canned foods. I.e. HEINZ BEANZ, KREAM OF WAAAAGH SOUP.

[@zaon2010]

A bunch of my friends back in the day played Orks and only one used Old Zogwort. I was playing him with my Black Templars and I had a super powered Chaplin with a jump pack about to attack him and he pulled out Zogworts curse on me. We had a crowd watching us when the roll happened and I lost. I just put my head in my hands as he handed me the stat line and I removed my Chaplin and he replaced it with a squig with a skull helmet. I laughed and cried at the same time.

[@gabrelicious6553]

This was my second army after I started with blood angels, loved the video!

[@Razzusamadesu]

Everybody gangsta till the 4th ed. codex is part of codex compliant...

[@Ironic_daemonic]

This was one of my favorite codexes!

[@Agamemnon2]

Despite having horrible wound allocation rules, 5th edition might still be my favorite edition of 40k. A lot of great models came out at that time, including the awesome Dark Eldar total range redesign, and there seemed to be a good balance between flavorful and streamlined rules. Apocalypse had come out and we had a plastic Baneblade, and everything seemed new and exciting.

[@leothewhiteranger]

Ah, the 4th edition Ork codex. Not my first - I got in just as 3rd turned to 4th so I have all sorts of 3rd Edition ones - but a fun one. I still get a kick out of the ork paradox.

[@anthonyplatt4928]

What a lovely message at the end, great vid as always :-)

[@bentilbury2002]

Good choice doing the Lost and the Damned next. Some tips on how to propitiate Papa Nurgle might well come in handy the way things are going! 😏

[@JasmineRGBLights]

This was the codex I really got into tournament play with! Having a 65 army model at 750pts was truly disgusting, and forced me to become a much faster player to get games done in a reasonable timespan. Rolling 120 attacks for a 30-ork squad never got old... Also the models at the time were so gorgeous, with the new vehicles being killer (that Battlewagon!) and the special units having so much character (I remember adoring those metal Kommandos).

[@thomasrevill7723]

Hey, I'm only 20 and it weirds me out going thru my old White Dwarf copies from the early 2010s and thinking those are nearly a decade old, nothing strange about noticing how time passes - hell, the first time I really felt like I was getting older was in Year 11 (fifth year of secondary school in the UK for those not in the know) when I found out there were Year 7s who didn't know what VHS tapes were

[@phyrebyrd]

This video was long enough for me to unload and then load my dishwasher. Thanks

[@widowpeak6142]

Man...I miss the customization options so much... Just because it encouraged conversion.

[@yagsipcc287]

Agree the older lore was mostly better as well. Everything now is becoming more and more samey. I am now playing more of other games myself that don't care what models you use. Armies are much more well cooler tbh. Still love the 40k lore and all some of the new models are amazing but can't really do anything with them unless you get a chop saw and rip everything apart and hope your current skills are good enough.

[@widowpeak6142]

@@yagsipcc287 Which is kind of funny, because ye olde warhammer had power armor and bolters on orks; and then things diversified.

[@Aliexster]

Ah I remember reading that in the local game store in the mall when it came out. I like what they did with 8th, but I dearly miss the amount of customization that earlier editions like this had.

[@superork26]

It's so strange to see the codex I grew up on being looked at in a retrospective... Makes me feel old haha

[@YossarianVanDriver]

Oh hey, this book featured was in the first issue of White Dwarf that came out when I got into the hobby! Also, nice nice, Realm of Chaos is a forever weird favourite.

[@brucewilson4200]

Having only witnessed a Lost and the Damned book from afar, I'm already suitably frightened. Also cheers from America, and stay smart out there.

[@melkezedek604]

This was when I started my orkz army. God I friggen loved this codex. My 4-5th edition army was all about this baby, I use had armies themed around the two now gone leaders as well and yes turning other peoples characters into squigs while not overly useful is annoying as hell to people lol, I also have a looted wagon made from a WW1 tank with transport ability and 2 side mounted flamers, god I miss scatter dice and templates lol

[@filkinraous1806]

You forget the cool Flash Gitz rules they had in that edition, with the custom Snazzgun options and the ability to take a Painboy. I converted those guys off the bat from the Assault on Black Reach nobs. This was an awesome edition!

[@joeowensby3997]

I want to get into Ork and even after finding out that wartraks, big gunz, and looted wagons are no longer competitive will not stop me from creating them.

[@CaptainRufus]

Appropriate I was building a Loota and Scorcha squad today. Next on the docket is a Mantic package of Orks because I more just wanted a Kill Team like uh... 2 years ago now? Time has no meaning.

[@G-Phunk]

Love these Ork videos and the retro ones

[@tentimestay9181]

Wow I was excited to see this video put up today! And the announcement for next time? I FEEL THE HYPE OVERTAKING MEEEEEE

[@karljohan2300]

god that warbike boy was Amazing such stories are what makes an ork proppah

[@Dlúith]

This was my first introduction to the orks and it really holds up to todays’ standards through these ‘umie flower tinted mek goggles

[@theinquisitor9836]

Kinda surprised you didn’t mention the fact in this book every Big Mek you took allowed you to take a Deff dread as a troop choice. I bring this up because I remember reading a battle report in a White Dwarf in which Phil Kelly (the books author) used this ability to spam Deff Dreads and Killa Kans (because back then you could only have 3 heavy support units and Deff Dreads couldn’t be taken in squadrons) Also, Thanks for the video guys! Hope everyone is staying safe!

[@cptmachine]

I’d love to hear your through on GorkaMorka and how it changed how Orkz look and the terminology they now use.

[@richarddeman374]

*looks at his cabinet and sees the predecessor to this codex on the shelf* Oh Slaanesh, I *am* getting old... Joking aside, great vid as always!

[@anotherzingbo]

If you think the 4th edition Shokk Attack Gun rules were complex, see if you can ferret out the Madboyz rules from 1st edition, or you're really brave go looking for the 1st edition robot rules!