Cody Crybabies, Hollywood Rock, Tribalism & What This Era Should Be Called w/ Sam Roberts

[@ChrisVanVliet]

Lay the smack down on that subscribe button for my channel and also for Sam's channel: www.youtube.com/@NotsamWrestling

[@epsteinsnecktie8690]

No way. This creep defended WWE against wrestlers who we now know were wrongfully mistreated. Look at how he attacked Nancy Grace denying wrestlers had lawsuits on WWE based on blatant mistreatment.

[@Gary_Youtube1]

My two favorite podcast interviewers currently. Fuck yeah.

[@Gary_Youtube1]

Today I'm grateful for cvv, Sr and my health.

[@dravenscott4993]

Andrade next plz

[@Gary_Youtube1]

Chris buddy, I want in on these conversations man! Your audience wants Gary KZbin on your channel.

[@JohnnyBoy89762]

If there was ever an interview that deserved the Rock vs John Cena “once in a lifetime” graphic it’s this one. TWO GOATs

[@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa669]

Goats lol. Y'all covet mediocre bald white men too much. Its creepy

[@chefsalgadobx]

@@ACslater1😭😭 why you hating These MFers love this shit and have mad passion…. Gotta respect

[@ACslater1]

​@@chefsalgadobxsam is cool *

[@guitarhero918]

One Goat, SAM ROBERTS

[@thefourleaflosermusic]

​@@guitarhero918😊 16:49 😊🎉😊😂😢😊😂😢🎉😊🎉😂🎉😊🎉😊🎉😢😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊😢😊🎉😊🎉😢🎉😢😊🎉😂😊🎉😊😂🎉😮🎉😊😂😊😂🎉😊 16:49 😂🎉😊😂😊🎉😊🎉😊😢😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😮🎉😊😂😊😂🎉😊🎉😢😊😂😊🎉🎉😊😂😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊😂🎉😢🎉😂🎉😊🎉😂🎉😊🎉 16:49 😊🎉😊😂🎉😂😊🎉😊🎉😊😂😊😢😂😊🎉 16:49 🎉😢🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊🎉😊 16:49

[@nelsonsamuelsanchez]

This is probably one of if not THE best interview in this podcasts history. The chemistry between the two of you is unmatched, y'all bounce off of each other so well. This one is a legit treat to listen to.

[@ChrisVanVliet]

Glad you enjoyed this convo as much as I did!

[@derrickminton3814]

100 percent agree! Thank you CVV for all that you do!

[@billynicholas7793]

Two guys with the same mindset makes a great interview

[@RahenGroup]

This feels like a podcast of CVV interviewing NotSam who is also interviewing CVV I love this!!

[@nathanrodriguez914nr]

2 inquisitive wizards battling for supremacy.

[@jademonolith]

right?

[@muhammadHassan-kj1jy]

Only because Kung Fu Panda 4 is out. "Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"

[@PeterParker-yb1in]

Two of the best in the biz right here.

[@Trunks7500]

NOTSAM VS CVV BOOK IT !!!!!!!!!

[@ChrisVanVliet]

📝!

[@thetrasharoundmyplastic6342]

​​​@@ChrisVanVlietso here's your answer about What was supposed to happen? I personally believe rock was going to challenge Roman Reigns to TRIBAL COMBAT and Cody couldn't he's not family so then if Rock won the bloodline would be dismantled the Jimmy and solo wouldn't attack rock cause technically he's still an elder. This would left Cody challenges Roman in a one on one fair match. Possibly at the next? Ven that will be in MSG where Dusty losing it brings it full circle. Oh and think they'll call it the WWE universal era because the fans are finally more on charge of what we're getting.

[@cwalser544]

Chris' finisher would be a shooting star top rope press into a Falling DDT to his opponent. He calls it the Optimis Prime 😂

[@master-of-mind5881]

Subjectively this is how I define an era. Prevailing storylines, WTF/OMG/glued-to-the-screen moments, the rise and success of new stars, a change in the direction of the product, the retirement or passing of a legend. Attitude era 96-2001: Montreal screwjob, DX, austin 3:16, Mike Tyson/Austin, WM14, Austin/McMahon feud, McMahon/Helmsley faction, the rock/triple H feud, the Rock/Austin feud. The invasion storyline. Ruthless aggression era 02-07: The inaugural draft, rock/hogan WM. The rise of John Cena, Orton, Lesnar & batista. The return of hbk, elimination chamber, Benoit, guerrero winning the big one. Jbl smackdown Champion, first ever raw vs smackdown at SS. The deadman. PG era 08-12: hbk/taker WM, triple/taker WM. The rock/Cena. CM Punk best in the world, NXT, nexus, return of Bret hart. The return of brock Lesnar. The historical era 2013-2019: Sting, Ronda Rousey, undertaker wm streak, AJ styles debut, return of kurt angle and Goldberg. Daniel Bryan, Universal title, women’s revolution. Becky Lynch becoming the man and Kofi mania. Also the shield breaking up. Thunder-dome era 2020-2021 Drew McIntyre as champ, the fiend, Randy orton, edge, Alexa bliss, Roman reigns as the tribal chief, the hurt business. Undertaker retiring, firefly funhouse. Wrestlemania becoming a two night extravaganza. The bloodline era 2022-2024 present: Sami joining the bloodline, brock Lesnar Roman reigns summerslam. The judgement day, Vince McMahon leaving, triple H and TKO taking over, Logan Paul. Solo joining bloodline, Cena feuding with bloodline, orton/Rko bro. Clash of the castle. Seth as a workhorse champ. Bayley and damage control, LA KNIGHT, Bray’s passing. Cody finishing his story and the rock finally joining the bloodline.

[@CamSix0]

You’re definitely the Work Horse shoutout to you ! 🫡☝🏾🐐🙌🏾🙏🏾💪🏿💯

[@victoralexander3767]

I love how you took the time to flesh this out even tho I disagree partially with it.

[@CreateEnemys514]

I have the same concept but for me I feel like the WWE games also help with defining the eras Attitude era / Smackdown era PS1 and N64 1996-2001 Ruthless aggression era / SVR era PS2 2002- 2008 PG era / Xbox 360 and ps3 era 2009 - 2014 Network era / WWE 2k era 2015-2021 Xbox one and ps4 Bloodline era / Series X and PS5 era 2021-present day

[@master-of-mind5881]

@@victoralexander3767🫡

[@master-of-mind5881]

@@CreateEnemys514I was gonna coin the historical era the network era. I like your version it seems more official, more accurate I was just thinking from my perspective of history.

[@NeoMatsoso13]

Dream interview between the two undisputed GOATS!🐐

[@Cfant31]

The moment Cody came back and his music hit, titantron ect was the exact moment that sucked me back in from lurking on the internet on and off for 2 decades

[@vontaemusic]

This is the “Final Boss” version of The Rock.

[@melemelstl]

Chris you are the man … staying consistent is your specialty… and two of my favorite people to talk about wwe

[@ChrisVanVliet]

🙏🙏

[@ultraboy2669]

@@ChrisVanVlietbro how do you get in contact with wrestlers?

[@YourOldPalCal]

Just a note Re: the Cody lost last year; Yes, the story is paying off in an amazing way. But there has been a lot of less interesting BL/Cody stuff in past 12 months. I'm not sure patience was needed in regards to WM39. Having said that looking back I'm glad Cody didn't win because we're in line for an amazing climax to this story. But let's not forget some of those subpar periods in 2023. Fantastic discussion and interview as always, Chris.

[@jaydanielstech]

My journey into wrestling started with KZbin feeding me clips from the A&E Most Wanted Treasures, to watching all the A&E WWE content, then seeing Logan Paul doing crazy moves, and then watching WM39. Casually watched after that, and then watched non stop leading up to a Smackdown in Calgary. Attended that (Jeys last appearance on SD) and have been hooked since! Also, thanks for putting together this interview. Cool to hear insights from a WWE content creator 😊

[@ryanpatrick3284]

“ in triple H we trust” needs to be a shirt. lol 💯 Cody’s 38 return was absolutely a turning point. I loved this episode.

[@JetForceFive]

We are in the Shoot Era of wrestling. The content of promos, the use of social media to start angles and stories, podcasts fully pulling back the curtain, talent jumping to other promotions more frequently. Everything is a worked shoot or a straight shoot. Talent isn't afraid to simply say "I don't like them for real." The pivotal moment(s) were CM Punk returning to wrestling, immediately followed by Cody returning to WWE and the loud opinions that not only came from that, but the wrestling angles (and real life scenarios) that developed due to that short period like "Finish the Story" and the backstage incidents in AEW.

[@nomercy4life]

Can't be considered the "shoot" era with a bunch of thigh slappers

[@JetForceFive]

@nomercy4life The wrestling isn't a shoot, just the business of it. I don't think anyone ever asked Hogan in the 80's if he really didn't like Roddy Piper - a lot of the backstage stuff from the last 40 years has come out in the last 10 years. But today, we know in real time who has a problem with who, contract details, reasons for leaving/firing, etc. It's becoming more rare to hear a promo commenting on something in-story, like "you attacked me last week" and instead there's a lot more references to comments on podcasts and social media posts where it is closer to a shoot than a written angle.

[@zachary_attackery]

We're in the era where wrestlers are more concerned with impressing other wrestlers with how many moves they can do than they are with drawing money

[@nomercy4life]

@@JetForceFive these new guys don't know how to have gimmicks and run storylines, cm punk poisoned thus new generation

[@damndippindots560]

@@nomercy4lifeWait, you don’t think Punk can do angles and storylines??

[@jademonolith]

Ive never thought we'd see the day when the 2 greatest sports entertainment interviewers in the last decade sat down together for an interview

[@cosmicvcosmic]

1:10:06 "I want head for my birthday" 😂😂

[@mrbransformer4184]

My 14 has never ever cared about watching wrestling with me, until last year.

[@ScoTTyScoTTyScoTT]

Sami Zayn storyline with the Bloodline get him hooked?!

[@VarianNash]

Chris and Sam need to have a show together.

[@ldthompson57]

WM 39 both nights have been the best Mania’s that we’ve had in over 20 years. People crapping on it are just upset that all the dirt sheets, podcasts they’ve listened to and their predictions didn’t go how they wanted it and can’t admit they’re wrong. 40 is going to top it and I’m here for it👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheJosephPrice]

Objectively, night 2 was bad.

[@AutisticLed]

Kevin Owens vs Seth Rollins at Mania, Edge vs Randy, Bayley/Sasha as well as Roman and Drew adapting to no people, not forgetting Sami Zayn vs Daniel Bryan were very entertaining to me through 2020 honestly. I think those people and moments stand out as maximising the very difficult times we all lived, in my view as I type this. I might remember more after this moment 😂 Love Sam and Chris together, fantastic content creators with personality at their core (for me anyway)

[@JoseFernandes-ip7bt]

Interviewer's version of "Once in a lifetime" 🔥

[@sharon012490]

I really enjoyed this episode!! I wish it went longer!

[@alexe3136]

I’ve heard people call it The Renaissance Era and I really liked that

[@fantaconsumer]

I think we should make this official

[@ManofMoviesPod]

00:30:05 The Renaissance Era 🔥

[@DreTheTexan]

Shoutout Santi, Wrestling is finally cool again! Its great to see

[@ProperPicks]

The defining moment of the era is Paul Heyman sitting on the couch with Roman reigns.

[@kelkel08]

Wow this didn't feel like one hour at all. It feels like I'm with my buddies talking about gool old wrasslin'. Thanks CVV and Notsam for the amazing EP!

[@mrkreed9922]

Love Sam. He’s the best, look forward to his podcasts every Monday

[@MrMcMullins]

Love listening to the two of you just talk wrestling. Gave me a refreshed view of the current landscape.

[@bubediscuss]

Re: Rock v Roman never being official. I'm also a 'no graphic, no match' guy like Sam mentions at 25:20. EXCEPT, at the Vegas press conference during the entire Rock promo on stage they had the mega graphic of the two facing eachother on the tron! That's arguably produced 'for the segment' and not for actual ticket promos, but it was still a traditional 'face to face' match graphic a-la Rock-Cena 2012 promos.

[@PaulRiot17]

This was fantastic! You guys need to do a monthly “catch up” podcast!!

[@AltJake]

24:00 - They WANTED the fans to "backlash" This way they could turn Rock heel and recreate the feel of "Kofimania"/"The Yes Movement" This is playing out exactly how HHH wants it to

[@fireflame4492]

You’re either delusional or just naive to executives’ inability to say no to the Rock’s ideas regardless of what they already had planned. The tag match literally doesn’t even need to happen Cody could just face Roman and Seth vs Drew and that’s that but Rocky’s contract in joining the board had an obligation for him to wrestle at this year’s mania. This was just the way to get it done as a pivot from Roman vs Rock.

[@AltJake]

@@fireflame4492 Great. Glad you have an opinion, didn't ask & don't care Especially when you're bringing up a bunch of stuff I never mentioned When did I say anything about the tag match? Or what's happening with the board? Or Drew? Or Seth?

[@fireflame4492]

@@AltJake welcome to the internet Kermit

[@allen11king]

The Triple H Era The Renaissance Era Or The DX Era(Since HHH and HBK are booking everything)

[@hassanelachkar7636]

@ChrisVanVliet hey brother Chris this last month has been the best time of my life I’m almost about to announce knock on wood and cross your fingers to be in remission from my colon cancer! And this last month your bangers of interviews helped me get through it all 3yrs treatment And I’m about to pray and hope to announce after this last round of chemotherapy and radiation you are the first person I will be announcing to I am in remission because of all the support and sending the love it meant a lot to me brother thank you so much and your videos of your banger of interviews help me get through this dark three years of my life of nonstop in and out the hospital treatment after treatment hospitalization of the hospitalization. Took it one day at a time got stronger mentally physically and emotionally and most importantly never give up

[@bencromwell707]

Another Great Interview Chris💯👍

[@damionsaintclaire2365]

I had to pause around 10 mins just to comment this. When you guys talked about NEW fans that just started and me being 34 starting to watch in the mid 90s man it gets my blood pumping just to share my experiences with them. You like The Rock? You just started watching a few weeks ago? Seen a clip from WWE on X and you wanted to see it? MAN let me show YOU some of the things The Rock did when i was a kid. Did you ever see The Rock BEFORE he was a mega movie star? No? Man let me show you when The Rock was Rocky Maivia. You guys bringing this up made me so happy because i get to share these things now with that generation thats never seen it before and its so exciting watching them with joy seeing things like The Rock and Jonathan Coachman. Or with Austin etc. Sorry this is long. Lol.

[@simon4106]

I need these two to make a 3 hour special. It was so fun to listen to

[@adilrashid9517]

This was genuinely one of the best wrestling podcasts I’ve ever heard. Thank you Chris

[@ChrisVanVliet]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ssjxcloudstrife8652]

This felt less like an interview with a wrestling personality but more like 2 old wrestling fans/friends just shooting to the breeze about the current Road to Wrestlemania. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. Kudos to you both!

[@suplexmediapro]

I forgot how entertaining Sam can be. Thank you for reminding me, Chris. Love you both ❤

[@rajakghosh6602]

This era can be called the resurgence era or the cinematic era. This is not attitude era 2.0 where crowd chants are bleeped for expletive words or a memo is passed around the locker room barring everyone expect the Rock and selected few can drop expletive words. Anyway wrestling has become cool again.

[@jasonnapier2942]

Chris is putting out banger after banger videos. Awesome interview and keep up the amazing work...

[@presidentc4]

The best of both worlds. You two are my favorite guys to listen talk about wrestling. Great episode, I haven't even started yet

[@lukasblacc8330]

my two favorite podcasts together as one…it must be my birthday 🎉

[@ChrisVanVliet]

Well if it is, happy bday!

[@nickkemp20]

Im from the uk and i was at wrestlemania 38! It was awesome! Speaking of awesome, great interview Chris!

[@kingjoe3rd]

It’s funny how people that either work for or who want access to the WWE, they never admit the real reason as to why wrestling and the WWE is popular again. I can tell you the reason. It’s the reason why me and several friends have come back to it. Chris and Sam won’t admit it or they downplay the real reason in a misdirection. The reason is that Vince is no longer there. They can say that’s not the real reason all they want but you know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it true. Oh it’s true. It’s damn true.

[@MJV08]

I could listen to you both talk wrestling for like weeks lol so entertaining and insightful 👏 bravo thank you so much for the content

[@isaiasbarrios4204]

12:42. For Me The Single Moment That Started This Era. Was When Roman Reings Returned To WWE. In Summerslam 2020.

[@SMrAdam1977]

Exactly!

[@Tygermetal]

Not Sam and CVV. The Mega Powers, YEAH. The Madness and the Mania, Oh YEAH!

[@RatbaGAMES]

Not an interview I was expecting but man I’m glad it happened

[@InfamousTAY]

Give the people what they want; the GOAT of commentary Michael Cole!

[@n.h.fromt.x.8528]

This was DELIGHTFUL to listen to during my workday, today. My first thought that came to my mind was Cody making his return at Mania, before Sam Roberts gave the same response. I'm still under the belief that Mania will kick off the bloodline civil war angle. The real question here is when do we get part 2 of this interview?

[@p3rs3arsk4]

Just two friends talking about wrestling, what could be better honestly. Also, that HHH impression at 1:11:58 was absolute gold. 😂

[@MythraStudios]

Love how you bring LA Knight into most of the conversations. YEAH!

[@ABIT-cb1qh]

He is close friend of them

[@KingTodd_gaming_]

One of the greatest crossovers ever! 2 of our favorite wrestling interviewers, Sam and Cvv, together! :)

[@tadarioussanders5441]

I’m enjoying this episode 🎉

[@Warrior24444]

Amazing episode, well done chris and sam 👏

[@mattwombat1]

The two best wrestling interviewers teaming up

[@MrX8X]

Yeah these are the best pro wrestling interviewers right here! #NotSamRoberts #ChrisVanVliet

[@pvln12345]

Thank you for making this happen. It was a great interview to listen to. I thoroughly enjoyed it as I am a fan of both of you guys.

[@deathmauler181]

Sam is such a good guest/host

[@cwalser544]

Huge support and love for both Sam and Chris. Great guys. Cool dudes. Awesome dads.

[@tigersinyourlungs]

what a blessing to watch you too. thank you CVV and notSam xx

[@nickm724]

1:11:57 possibly the best Triple H impression of all time 🤣

[@NerobianShow]

According to the WWE 2k24 game, when you go to arena settings and go to crowd, it says the name of the era of the t shirts, according to that rn, we are in the reality era

[@JJS7teen19]

This is a podcast you can put on repeat as a fan of wrestling or not. It's an enjoyable conversation, cheers lads!

[@BrandonNichols-lr2be]

I didn’t know I needed this 😭😭😭😭❤️

[@stannedup1133]

CVV & Not Sam should do this every week 👀

[@bryanshields5571]

The crossover I didn't know I needed, but glad it happened!!! Great conversation between two of my favorite wrestling podcasters/KZbinrs. 👏

[@notamaniswear4815]

A wrestling interviewer getting interviewed by another wrestling interviewer. I never thought I'd see the day.

[@rodrigoramirez4608]

What a great interview. Time for Al Snow! Cheers from Chile 🇨🇱

[@DarrenCawte]

Awesome interview Chris

[@josephrestubog1010]

Thumbs up for Chris's Triple H impression! 1:11:55 😂😂😂

[@ChrisVanVliet]

😁

[@Elguapodelfuego]

Adults and children loved Eddie Guerrero during his title reign.

[@anthonyavellanet4232]

The 2 best talkers of the business. Let's do it again..

[@Shiniswar]

i didn't know who was interviewing who lol best in the biz

[@MrAtrain687]

I would love a weekly video of Chris and Sam discussing wrestling

[@omerta316]

I'd add Solomonster

[@mohsinalam7865]

Man I wish yall did a wide shot of you and Sam sitting together. The two absolute bests in the industry.

[@KPnDC]

This was great. Two of my faves sitting down for a chat

[@ZaliaMurciaArzeta-me2be]

This is dope my two favorite interviewers. Doing. A show together!

[@emadjaymz9376]

Favorite episode notsam is a great dude

[@emadjaymz9376]

Who else thinks Sam and Chris have great chemistry together and should have co host show

[@marccote5494]

What a fantastic, sit down chat with two of the greatest of all time! I’ve been a huge fan of both of you for many many years, and I really enjoyed listening to both of you just hang out and talk wrestling.

[@ImpendingDisaster26]

These are the GOATS of interviews in Professional Wrestling. Now we need NotSam to interview CVV in his studio

[@corygagnon415]

What a great show. This is how an interview should go

[@InvisibleFreak23]

What´s the Haps, Sam Roberts?! Great Episode, two of the greatest who ever did it! 🤙

[@KiloWhiskey13]

The most anticipated INSIGHT that I knew nothing about! Thanks for this!! Please meet annually with Sam to discuss the state of the bizz 😍

[@alexgood1039]

Sam is such a fantastic broadcaster and hard worker. Great interview!

[@badonkeykong7506]

I think this era of wrestling is defined by it being Vinceless. That's what brought me back, when he first left I got back into the product.

[@JamParkGuitar]

This conversation was amazing!!! The flow and back and forth was amazing. Litterally forgot this was an interview cuz I didn’t even realize one was supposed to be a guest. It was just 2 people having a back and forth deep wrestling conversation like how I talk with my friends. Loved the back and forth. Even typing this I forget whose channel I’m on cuz I’m not sure whose the guest it just feels both even back and forth.

[@Dan-hg8ns]

I gotta disagree. The story became about beating Roman the day he cut that promo saying that he was the son Dusty always wanted and finishing with "If theres anything your father didnt teach you, i will." THAT was the moment it went from a story about winning a championship to a story about winning the championship from the guy who's had a chokehold on the industry for nearly 5 years.

[@uber_trance]

On the mention of best movies featuring wrestlers; how could yall not mention They Live? Its a classic

[@livrforlax01]

2 of the greatest interviewers in history of the wrestling business

[@PiosPlace]

The Renaissance Era. Shoutout to Superkick Studios.

[@ari_x89]

Two of the best. 🔥🔥🔥

[@ronaldrucker2000]

2 great interviewers spit boxing gotta love it

[@tactix7199]

Crazy crossover

[@ericurdiales8978]

I was actually privileged enough to go to Wrestlemania X7 “17” I was sitting on the floor and Triple H vs. Undertaker match they ended up feet in front of me. The TLC match was by far the biggest spectacle. I stopped watching afterward and started watching recently money in the wrestlemania 39 and money in the bank 2023. Sure feels good hearing you both say 17 was the best because I don’t want anyone thinking I’m a “homer” lol

[@AngeloAcampora]

Cool interview, bro! But it seems like it was recorded a few months ago, not current. When?

[@ChrisVanVliet]

It was recorded on March 2