COH3 | ON Meta Report (January 2025)

[@HelpingHans]

Nice stuff, well explained and put together. I know you probably spent ages making this and it deserves more attention 👍

[@StephennJF]

Appreciated Hans! Yeah the meta reports videos are the cumulation of many weeks of research, testing, production and editing. They are super useful for the CoH community though so I'm happy to do them for each major patch! :)

[@donnydarko9658]

Finally, I found someone with up to date videos on the current meta and learn about CoH 3 ... great work, thank you!!

[@StephennJF]

Happy to help! :)

[@MrDenizelci]

These meta reports are the top COH3 content atm. Really glad you keep making them. I see that in the current Wehr meta there are no indirects (wespe or nebel, not even assault guns). How do you deal with entreched positions, buildings and support weapons in this case? Is it agressive manuevering and hunting with 222 and wirbel?

[@caykahve]

Insightful

[@MrDenizelci]

On a side note, I've noticed that you don't include fallschirmpioneers in the build order. Is it because of the high manpower cost?

[@StephennJF]

Thanks! Glad to hear the are helpful. Yes you are correct I use aggressive maneuvering to fight the entrenched positions and support weapons. Moving into the late game I do occasionally get a T1 mortar to force them to move or smoke HMG positions, but for buildings a Marader gets the job done! Against a good USF player the Wespe comes to late and the Nebelwerfer can be easily dodged to be honest. Fallschirmpioneers are to expensive for 1v1 in this current meta game. I'd rather buy two standard Pioneers for the same price. Quantity over quality verse the USF meta is my mantra.

[@TheDudere]

Hell yeah! This is an awesome video. Thanks Stephenn!

[@StephennJF]

Happy to hear it was helpful! :)

[@AltruisticSaint]

i feel like balance in COH has always been a struggle. Partially due to the vast difference in the way a 1v1 is played vs. a 4v4. A pretty undertaking. thanks for the video

[@StephennJF]

You are absolutely right, finding I think it's important to balance the game from the point of view of all game modes, 1v1 through to 4v4, but it's not an easy undertaking. In particular with the DAK faction design it offers some different challenges compared to previous CoH game titles. Either way, best thing we can do as a community is raise issues and give Relic time to make changes.

[@longlee2098]

Great video as always, been watching all your recent videos and liking them all. Keep it up :).

[@StephennJF]

Appreciate the support! More on the way!

[@arloxun-o3g]

Nice stuff man, thanks! The effort you put into this really shows.

[@StephennJF]

Appreciate that! A fair bit of time goes into making the meta report videos so happy to hear it's helpful :)

[@WreakingAllHavoc]

Peak production on this. Great work!

[@StephennJF]

Thanks Havoc! :)

[@CannedHeat69]

The best CoH3 content right now, by far

[@LukaszSkowron-y8z]

More of this, please. It really helps new players to understand how the game works. In addition, it allows veterans to get better understanding on counters etc. Would be very interesting to see more videos of this kind. Educational material for COH players is essential due to poor onboarding from Single Player. We need more new blood in MP and this shows the ropes(tight hehe) really well. Keep up the good work!

[@StephennJF]

Thanks! Yeah the plan is to make a meta report for each major patch. I agree breaking down the learning curve for all players can be helpful!

[@michaelchung1526]

Good to see you still in the fight. Playing some other games atm but still keep an eye on this game from time to time.

[@StephennJF]

Glad to see you still keeping up with the game! The February patch will be interesting to play test once more heavy tanks get brought into the game.

[@AnuraagWagh]

Very nicely done. Happy new year

[@StephennJF]

Cheers. Happy New Year to you as well!

[@nickr.t.7003]

Happy New year to everyone, learning so much from your casts and videos

[@StephennJF]

Happy New Year Nick!

[@kuroikenshilol]

Thanks for the video!! Great content as always

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

@17:55 Is it really better to not take the cheaper Royal Engineers? That AA gun takes so long to get out that I find it really hard to contest the map without aggressive RE play.

[@StephennJF]

You can do it either way. I prefer Infantry Sections as they are more flexible at higher levels of play. At higher levels of play shoot and scooting with Grenadiers really bleeds Royal Engineers or a well placed MG42. Infantry Sections on the other hand really have to be respected at mid/long ranges.

[@marketingconsultant]

Love that type of content. Great editing.

[@StephennJF]

Thanks heaps! :)

[@lunax8136]

Thanks for your work, very informative video :)

[@StephennJF]

Glad it was helpful!

[@omartrooper]

Always informative

[@waffle-house4527]

Thank you

[@StephennJF]

You're welcome!

[@OmieThaaHomie]

Nice one boss

[@StephennJF]

Thanks! :)

[@kappa1833]

Great vid dude

[@matasgrigaravicius4793]

Hey man! Just found this channel while trying to get back into CoH this month and really dig the report. The biggest turndown is I'm always playing team games with my brother, can I take something away for team games out of this or would you mind adding extra info sections for 1v1 vs team games advice? I'm mainly looking for beginner overall meta tactics or simple build order for Allies. Great seeing some game insights after my fav guy SargeGG left his channel.

[@StephennJF]

Welcome! The British and Wehrmacht strategies described can be very easily adapted to 4v4, especially with some forward healing. For the USF and DAK builds shown I wouldn't recommend them for 4v4 as the frontline distance a player fights for in 4v4 is narrower, compared to 1v1 being wider. Therefore, the capping advantage created by the Scouts and Bike is reduced in 4v4 due to the maps being narrower and it's more important to have strong mainline infantry (Riflemen, Infantry Sections etc). For a 4v4 USF build something I've been using with good success and it's pretty flexible is a Riflemen, Mortar and M8 Greyhound army composition. This allows you to hold key green cover positions, take them from your opponent and slowly creep forward. Have a look at my 4v4 Narrated Gameplay series EP#5 for sense of the general strategy and build. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqOZfJl6r8-Un6s Goodluck for the games with your brother!

[@matasgrigaravicius4793]

@@StephennJF thank you! Just watched that video, loved the balanced style without any over-aggressive gameplay, but still beautifully utilising the quick pushes with the help of US combined arms. Lovely, that will get me going for the next matches :D

[@SneakyFridge1]

Great video well done

[@firstspar]

love the vids mate.

[@ivanmileta1886]

Awesome vid!!

[@StephennJF]

Cheers!

[@dovescryspringseternal]

When should the med tent go down for USF?

[@StephennJF]

I tend to get it the moment I have a squad with full models, below 50% and there is nothing for it to cap. Otherwise that squad is likely to just walk into the frontline, instantly bleed manpower and be forced to retreat.

[@dovescryspringseternal]

@StephennJF I’ve been having a lot of recent success using the USF build you recommended here. I’m new to CoH3 and was losing a lot of games because I wasn’t familiar with CoH3’s builds and macro. But after using your build and analyzing some of your games on your channel, I’ve gone on a 5 game win streak. Currently only 746 but I was at 678 just a few days ago. The early scouts dominate my early game and helps set up a strong mid-game. Cheers!

[@theorobinmeyer]

We are talking about 1v1 meta only, right?

[@StephennJF]

Correct this video analyzed the 1v1 meta game, however the British and Wehrmacht strategies described can be very easily adapted to team games, especially with some forward healing. For the USF and DAK builds shown I wouldn't recommend them for team games as the frontline distance a player fights for in 4v4 is narrower, compared to 1v1 being wider. Therefore, the capping advantage created by the Scouts and Bike is reduced in 4v4 due to the maps being narrower and it's more important to have strong mainline infantry (Riflemen, Panzer grenadiers, Infantry Sections etc).

[@theorobinmeyer]

@@StephennJF Thanks a lot for all your work :)

[@zoidberg1576]

wow, a lot of work for a really nice video

[@StephennJF]

Appreciate the recognition. Quite a number of days go into making the ON meta reports series. Glad to hear it's worth it! :)

[@chorkinho5851]

Is 4v4 work the same?

[@leuterisarapoglou3745]

no, 2v2 3v3 4v4 are totally different games in comparison to 1v1, this is why thit game cannot be balanced

[@StephennJF]

No team games are not the same. For example, the USF Scout build will not work in a team game environment as the frontline distance a player fights for in 4v4 is narrower, compared to 1v1 being wider. Therefore, the capping advantage is reduced in 4v4 due to the maps being narrower and it's more important to have strong mainline infantry. Similar issues can be experienced with the DAK strategy in 4v4. The British and Wehrmacht strategies described though can be very easily adapted to 4v4, especially with some forward healing.

[@listen9416]

The maker of this video prefers USA. Thats ok everyone has their preference. But you dont feel like playing UKF as australian as an australian?

[@StephennJF]

Yes USF is my most played faction, but since 1.9 I've mainly been playing Axis or British Forces. It's hard to always play Australians when Air & Sea BG Commandos are so fun to use! :D

[@listen9416]

@StephennJF btw theres a 1v1 tournament coming up this january, are you in it? Or will you be casting it? Super fun !

[@listen9416]

Better idea! Can you co-host the tournament with tightrope. You are both my favorite casters, mr propaganda aside 😄😃😆

[@The_Elder_Millennial]

I mean I appreciate the video, but this company has ruined this game in this patch. It’s absolute trash for axis players

[@StephennJF]

It's certainly harder for Axis in 1v1 at present. Balance will come in time.

[@The_Elder_Millennial]

@ it’s been out for 2 years???

[@brennan.3811]

womp womp

[@xujok]

thank you

[@StephennJF]

You're welcome!