How Sam Darnold resurrected his career, Josh Allen, Caleb's rookie year, CFB QBs to watch | THE HERD

[@TheHerdOnFS1]

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[@robe2504]

So refreshing to hear some nuanced and detailed analysis from someone that has played and understands the game.

[@WarrenPerry]

I love the Intelligent perspective of Jordan Palmer concerning the QB position. I really would like to see more of him.

[@timd4789]

He has a podcast dude is smart

[@marcalvarado1915]

Jordan Palmer is so positive and optimistic I wish I could have him evaluate me at my job and give me a peptalk! He comes across as the kind of coach I want for my son.

[@ryanzweng2659]

Jordan Palmer rocks! Can we get him on every week guys?

[@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews]

We want John Middlekauf instead.

[@dartdude4084]

I want them both

[@larry2281]

Jordan is right on nearly everything QB related. He knew and worked with Josh before anyone else, predicated Darnold, predicted Lamar’s playoff struggles, list goes on.

[@HjjMaker]

Lmfao please be silent he isn’t half the qb Lamar is

[@kingmusaba6045]

Lamar is a great QB but chill dude. Lamar is not above criticism, he's ACTUALLY 2-4 in post season so Palmer was correct...facts!!!!

[@larry2281]

@@HjjMaker Weird because his take on Lamar offended people but still to this day has been 100% right

[@HjjMaker]

Even being 2-4 in the postseason he isn’t half the qb

[@HjjMaker]

He hasn’t been 100 percent shyt he didn’t struggle last year he lost to the chiefs if only he was as observant in his career he wouldn’t be out the league pretending to be a qb guru

[@adammiller8597]

Colin just spitting and drooling everywhere

[@omokocha]

He really started drooling when it was time to trash Purdy.

[@adammiller8597]

@omokocha haha that was bad

[@kanlee9667]

Jordan Palmer, Carson Palmer, Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams...the USC connection.

[@atg1338]

Usc Qbs suck in the nfl

[@IRules2024]

Would be great next time Jordan is on to hear what he thinks about the top Back Up QBs. Like Jameis Winston, Tyler Huntley , Tyron Taylor etc

[@rajh3867]

Man, I believe Jameis is a fix away from being consistently great

[@dartdude4084]

Jordan is a class act.

[@LARRY113Z]

Huh, what's you? An NBC color guy?

[@brookssullivancomedy1090]

As a Bears fan, this year needed to happen. Caleb has been so coddled his entire career, even in losing it was never his fault. This year was the best thing for him long term

[@justicestyles]

Wish Jordan Palmer did more interviews but he’s too busy putting in work … solid

[@jodybrown4956]

Interested in his Kyler Murray analysis.

[@gifoTV]

Colin literally drooling over Jordan palmers Josh Allen story is insane

[@Jrcobi12]

😂😂

[@travisoshea]

So the QB guru COMPLETELY SMASHES Colin’s and Nick Wrights belief on Purdy and I LOVED how he said “if you’re in the media the film dosent matter” he should have added in “and if you are a fan” This was great

[@clifftanton8385]

Josh Allen scary good

[@MitchTsugi-g9k]

If Vikings win the superbowl colin gonna talk about Sam Darnold forever

[@danielkneeshaw6564]

So will every single Vikings fan.

[@ddnc1983]

Rest assured that won’t happen

[@TheOsfania]

Good.

[@RE1GN_BLOOD]

Looks exactly like his bro. Colin has a great repertoire of guests too. I mean he’s no Mark Sanchez, but he’s solid.

[@Drewswaggy]

Colin loves that his big thic coastal Qb named Sam Darnold. Real ones remember lol

[@seebasschipman293]

Trunky

[@joelgilmore3084]

Midwest mentality

[@JarradFogle]

‘He’s a Thick, Trunky, Coastal kid with a hose for an arm. He’s like a Silicon Valley startup with a google endorsement. Only knock on him is parents are still married-Divorce changes you’

[@jjsimmonsfire]

What a lead magnet. This man juts earn plenty new clients with this interview. 💪💪🔥🔥💰💰

[@ronaldmczee9064]

Palmer made a great point about Vince Young athleticism transfer in nfl.

[@ricblic901]

The thing about the Bills that no one is talking about is the Diggs trade. If that trade didn't go down Buffalo would have drafted Justin Jefferson. That's who Minnesota got with that pick. Think of Jefferson and Allen his triggerman.

[@ChristoWhat]

This is such a good segment

[@tjayd1225]

Sam darnold has made Jordan and his qb coaching business a lotta money this year

[@danlove4270]

Here in Minnesota we got a chance and Sam is a big part of that

[@matthewmolina3326]

This is good football talk. Much better than listening to Colin and Wright and their opinions

[@ginnyweatherbee7941]

Love Josh, he still rolls to the right and throws TDs from that position

[@AdrianJeffreys-fj2fv]

Its a great system for him

[@Steel-x1c]

I’ve heard something like this from other qbs passed,..almost all qbs know what they need to improve on, many never figure out how. And by the time the ones that were fortunate enough figure it all out, the league has branded them career backups and has moved on. Sam Darnold is very fortunate on multiple fronts to have improved when he did and to get the chance to show it, Geno Smith is another great example.

[@adrianbuck8772]

Baker Mayfield was on an similar path aswell and maybe Wentz could be the next guy getting an shot this off season the restart his career somewhere.

[@FBIStatMajor]

I hate it so much when people say "how does a bad NFL player become a good coach or analyst" because first off they made the pros which is incredibly hard to do. Second off, sports are equally mind and body. Many good athletes can't be good coaches bc they lack the thinking. Many lesser athletes could still have the brains. That's why Phil Jackson and Ime udoka and Gregg popovich are the best coaches

[@bookswithbenjamin8902]

Great segment

[@rogers2934]

Jordan Palmer was the only one who predicted Sam Darnold would do great with Vikings other than those Vikigns fans (like me)

[@bigdogstatus83]

Caleb Williams has had the most turmoil by any rookie QB in many many years! I mean, look at what his team went through! Unbelievable!

[@ocasio3024]

It’s crazy that this guy was an awful QB himself but his calling all along was teaching better QB’s techniques on how to become even better. This guy is amazing what he’s done with Josh Allen alone! Now he’s doing the same with Darnold. So incredible to see. And I love how humble the dude is.

[@charlesplymail1721]

That "awful QB" was--for most of his athletic career--the best athlete in the vicinity (HS, College). Tells us sumpin' bout the men playing at the pro level.

[@dansnyder9102]

Outstanding analysis

[@LARRY113Z]

Jordan Palmer has always embodied the "Hello fellow kids" meme, but for QBs.

[@muinahmed8199]

Oh. Carson Palmer's brother. Carson's throw was music to ears. I am borrowing quote from Jim Harbaugh.

[@SladeBling]

Jordan Palmer may have the best job in football.

[@thomasgabbitas3801]

Everyone is a top 10 quarterback with this guy

[@clintmiller88]

This guys beard…. 10/10

[@MoTownMitch-vz2rh]

I wish Goff could be good so the national media would be all over his nuts.

[@matthewmolina3326]

9ers have a lot of big contracts on that team. You sign Purdy big money and that’s the beginning of the end for all those stars on the 9ers

[@trevorbickham3067]

Jordan Palmer is a QB whisper..

[@WhoDey1968]

Beard looks good bro

[@MrCFBad]

Where’s the Jayden Daniels evaluation

[@jerisj.8971]

Curious if Jordan would take a job with an NFL team as their QB coach? If i was running a team with a QB i was high on (to draft or in the bldg already) i would try and have his work exclusive to my program. Not saying hes the best of QB devs but worth the investment.

[@BenBGolf]

I love Jordan and the work he's been doing, especially for my man JA17!! But, one thing I don't understand, if he's been telling Josh to stop rolling right because of the big hits.. then he needs to tell him again! This year has been bad for that!! Baltimore Houston, Detroit, are three examples this year of bad hits while rolling right! :) GOBILLS!!!!!!

[@conorrodriguez658]

As a Steelers fan I’d love Milroe as a low 1st round pick to sit behind Russ for a year (if Russ takes a 2 year

[@seebasschipman293]

Why not just keep fields then?

[@iLoveChrisSmoove]

Resilient and confident

[@chipdouglas6620]

Why is Colin’s seat so much higher than his guests, giving off a Potter-like vibe from It’s a Wonderful Life.

[@markkaasha2111]

These kids typing this nonsense......go back to bed kid ...

[@jamessteffy9981]

No goog QBs in college this year...

[@charlesplymail1721]

God, I hope not! What's a "Goog" anyway?

[@jamessteffy9981]

@charlesplymail1721 good typo

[@TradingPantheonNasirTrades]

Somebody get Brady to tell darnold to take a team friendly deal, he could easily become a legend

[@armstrongmuscle92]

I hope the hawks get Jalen Milroe

[@Steel-x1c]

Jordan is cool, I thought he was his elder brother Carson at first

[@Dgm405]

Analysts said the arm strength for John Elway came from the hips and torque.

[@Beezydagoat23]

Jaxson dart and Jalen milroe should both be top 10 picks if I was the colts gm I would take Kyle McCord in the 2-3 round the browns should take milroe or the titans

[@Beezydagoat23]

I think cam ward and shedeur are the best QBs in this class but that doesn't mean they should be taken the highest at their position milroe has an abundance of potential so does jaxson dart

[@donleonard4446]

Both of those guys are more sure things and probably translate faster than Milroe.

[@asifkhan506]

Literally one of the best conversations ever

[@corey2232]

Allen fell back into that bad habit of rolling right & chucking up a prayer last week (while throwing across his body to the center of the field)... Then Keon Coleman caught the pass for a TD. 😅 Somehow, still not punished.

[@larry2281]

I mean he’s the best rolling right QB possibly ever. The amount of throws he makes rolling ride is insane and its throws no one else can make. With the interception it really comes down to he doesn’t take as many risks as he used to take.

[@codybeekmann7064]

I love watching this show but I hate at the end he says hey it’s uncle Colin like he’s Shannon sharp lol 😂

[@JuanTorres-hv5ig]

UF 6'5" QB Kyle Trask, 2020 Heisman nominee status?

[@akokyayo2025]

It’s so weird how a trash qb can become a qb guru

[@timwormus]

Happens in the NBA too. Best coaches are typically roleplayers.

[@jonathancruz7848]

Those who can’t do , teach , and those who can’t teach , teach gym - jack black ; school of rock :)

[@briandittrich5640]

Lot better understanding of the mechanics and how to make them work. These top guys have such high level of talent they kinda can skip over the little stuff and make up for it with their abilities. The average guys can’t do that so they gotta understand the game on a whole different level which makes it easier to translate for others

[@timothynguyen4446]

A lot of people have the mind for the game but not the physical talent

[@easyp3930]

Knows what to do just can’t do it

[@AnthonySodaroTravels]

Bills fan here, Josh Allen is the best, flat out tho, when dude rolls right and chucks it deep, defenders are CRUSHING him with hits so idk what games these two are watching 😂 He’s throwing darts for td’s but he’s taking huge hits which a lot of times are called for penalties

[@b.newsome8696]

Please help Dak

[@bryanlegarretta3404]

Genuine question.. why does Brock Purdy get negative contract talks because he has tons of weapons and an offensive minded coach but had 1 bad season but Sam Darnold has had 6 bad seasons and now 1 great season with a good offensive minded coach and the best WR in football and Colin is talking about paying him??

[@claysmith7798]

Please work with Jalen Hurts!

[@briankelly7978]

Why is Colin trying to make something out of Milroe lol

[@Dgm405]

Richardson could have been a 3rd round pick and back up. Colts could have traded for Fields for a fourth rounder and made the playoffs.

[@clintmiller88]

Miroe gonna have to set it up

[@louisalexandercrocco3530]

I have 0 doubt that Jordan Palmer knows more ball than me. But bc he works with these QBs there is clear agendas.

[@JuanTorres-hv5ig]

Syracuse QB Kyle McCord NFL potential & status? Did he bypass OSU like J.. Burrow.

[@Muricans1776]

Uh yeah Sam Darnold has a top RB , Best Reciever in the league and a great HC + a solid organization behind the team

[@fredbishop9434]

Go through the list. Every great qb has these same assets. Pretty hard to get great without them….

[@Amber-ed3vd]

Did say not first round or second then he is my guy jalen

[@clifftanton8385]

Darnold legit Burrow reminds me of Joe Montana people better be glad their defense is bad this year Bills legit

[@Justyouraveragetrashcan]

So the only time Colin talks about notre dame after hand waving them away last week is a small segment on Riley? Not how they just beat the sec champ by nearly 2 touch downs? Typical, what a joke

[@ChuchuJS]

How’s Caleb had the roughest Rookie season? wtf do you think Drake maye is going through at New England?

[@richardescamilla3487]

I think you have to look atr the hype. Caleb has a bad game and all you read is fans talking about painting his nails ive seen people call him a bum. Its the expectation more than anything. I havenet heard much talk about Maye, and i admit that doesnt mean anything there may be plenty of talk but I just dont see or hear it.

[@jayflores182]

Easy fixes doesn’t make you a Guru. I didn’t hear compelling evidence on why these QB’s have completely turned their careers around. Kinda like a Baseball hitting coach to me

[@travisoshea]

I really hope people LISTENED to what Jordan said about starting from the ground up and weight transfer. This is a part of QB mechanics. Not being in rhythm or throwing on time. Haha Educate yourselves

[@derekrau8236]

I think Jordan is smart and knows ball but it’s hard for him to be totally honest especially in a show like this. Not calling him on any lies or stretches of truth but he can’t really say anything to bad about any QB because there ether current future or former clients.

[@thekushans]

Very good point

[@clintmiller88]

Purdy is better than Prescott

[@alexanderdeits6547]

Jordan Palmer is great but he's not gonna be brutally honest bc he's a qb coach... nit gonna rip a guy who could potentially hire you

[@clintmiller88]

Caleb is garbaggggggeee

[@belindamercer4505]

This guy is too nice

[@csquared973]

Why is colin interviewing brock purdy's agent? 🤔

[@charlesplymail1721]

Who cares? It was a great segment.

[@asufluffhead]

Academically tough 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jacobhughes9010]

The Brock purdy stuff is kinda discrediting. If you have to say “if you have a great and healthy roster around him” then he’s not worth that much money because he’s not the reason you’re winning, your great and healthy roster is an when you pay him 55+ million a year you won’t have that same great roster.

[@MarioMassenburg]

Just watched Riley Leonard throw for 90 yards against Georgia and they still won the game

[@travisoshea]

And your point is what

[@moorecav213]

Milroe is a mid second rounder at best

[@Firstclasssempire]

Bro looks like Eminem in the thumbnail

[@Slo-Mo]

Take away Jefferson and Addison and Darnold goes back to being Darnold.

[@denniswilson6673]

The Bears will ruin Williams unless a miracle happens- The Bears are dysfunctional to the core and it will be hard for Williams to be star on that team

[@MikeSmith-kw7yc]

This the same dude that said Lamar can’t be special This bum know nothing

[@larry2281]

No he said Lamar play style doesn’t work in the playoffs which is why he will struggle and he hasn’t been wrong about that

[@RASTAGOOB]

Ain’t this the guy that talked about Lamar Jackson saying he can’t legitimately throw from the locket consistently?

[@larry2281]

Not sure about that but he did say he will always struggle in the playoffs and he hasn’t been wrong about that lol

[@Dimezprod]

@@larry2281 Why are you always meatriding?

[@eincan1313]

Every show, Brock Purdy is average and can only play with perfect surroundings. Ex-player guest comes on and says why Purdy is really really good. Next show, back to Purdy is average and can only play with perfect surroundings. Why bother asking if you are not going to listen to people who actually know what they are talking about?

[@robbogart6266]

Great insight, so much knowledge. Someone get that man to the barber though, that beard beeds to be faded

[@davidhapka5410]

Caleb Williams doesn't show the character to rise above a failed rookie year.

[@xjhkx]

Some real stats that prove that the garbage time stats accumulated after going down 3 scores that the Caleb Williams fans are using to prove he is talented are all nonsense. - 45% of his yards are YAC, which is the highest YAC % in the league amongst starters. - Air yards average is bottom 3 amongst starting QBs. - 90% of the 20+ yards are all YAC. - Completion % is bottom 3 among starting QBs. - Pocket time of 2.4 seconds is the league average. 17 starting QBs have the same or lower. - 7th highest pass attempts (poorest completion %). You'll eventually get yards when you throw so much. - Time to throw is 2.91 seconds. 9th highest in the league. Highest amongst all rookies. Take out the games he played against the 2 worst teams in the league (Jaguars and Panthers) and some of his stats when averaged per game are the worst in the entire league. Completion drops to 58% and rating is in the 70s. Even Greg Cosell in today's show said that CW is not ready for the NFL. He is talented but can't play at this level.

[@TurtleNeal]

Peyton manning, Baker mayfield, Jared Goff, Sam Darnold ,Andrew Luck, Josh Allen. All of those quarterbacks had bad/not so great rookie seasons and turnt out to be good…..give him time

[@xjhkx]

​@@TurtleNeal none of them were called "generational" before they were drafted and had Vegas put them in top 8 of the MVP race before the season started. They didn't come in asking for an ownership stake in the franchise and say they will pass for 4k yards and their punter won't even be needed. They also didn't have 3 WR1s to help them. You need to remember that Chicago was almost a 10-win team last year (lost 3 games due to a defensive collapse in the final minutes) and only drafted #1 because of the Panthers' pick. CW will get better but he is half they player we were sold.

[@richardescamilla3487]

@@xjhkx Thats the problem though, everyone hears the hype and believes it. Then the guy never really get the chance that an average QB taken late 1st or 2nd round would get. He'll be good he just need the chance to grow and develop. IDK what rookie wouldve done well in Chicago.

[@jacobhughes9010]

So if the Niners are so good at developing and evaluating talent then why don’t they just not pay him and go get another QB? You can’t say “he wins when he has a healthy and great roster” but also “just pay him”

[@jvmlucky13]

Milroe has a role in the NFL. Not sure it’s at QB.

[@davidmorrison-io4co]

He should teach quarterbacks how to fall and not hit their head. In short, they should learn judo where they are taught to fall but absorb the fall and not let their head hit the ground. I see quarterbacks always letting their head hit the ground.

[@danielmessier4903]

why not ask him about Trevor Lawrence? That is the tough question to ask...that he avoided