How Jerry Jones screwed up the Cowboys dynasty with Jimmy Johnson | The Colin Cowherd Podcast

[@TempeSoldier123]

Jerry Jones deserves EXACTLY what he’s getting now and what he’s gotten the last 25 years.

[@briandavidson1946]

@Hate Myself he never gave Bill control. Bill wanted to cut certain players. He could not. That includes T.O.

[@s.clinkscales2430]

8in

[@dansiglersr.9144]

@Hate Myself p

[@8ashman]

true

[@cwstewartjr1973]

@@briandavidson1946 why would you cut TO?

[@lxf9914]

"We won BECAUSE OF Jimmy. We won IN SPITE of Barry" - Emmitt Smith

[@wyatthill6252]

Barry Switzer has a ring because Neil O'Donnell threw straight to Larry Brown....TWICE

[@charlesciminera5881]

Are you serious? Try being a giant fan I wish Jerry Jones owned our team this guy knows talent period I would trade idiot phony ass Wellington Mara for Jones any day

[@matthewgabbard6415]

@@charlesciminera5881 And yet the Giants will probably win another one before Dallas

[@charlesciminera5881]

@@matthewgabbard6415 I hope so but let's be honest Dallas is closer at this point

[@nothanks3590]

@@charlesciminera5881 NY has won 2 SB's not too long ago... Jerry hasnt come close to a SB since 1995. so not sure why you are complaining.

[@raybowles8587]

There is a saying, "Pride comes before a fall." Cowboys fell when Jerry pushed out Jimmy Johnson. They have never been the same. You think Jerry would realize by now, he can't coach.

[@markmontenaro8218]

You just went biblical,,, nice

[@onlytruth777]

He doesn't care ! ... As long as he's drawing all the media attention & news revolving around 'HIM' , he'd rather lose this way , than win any other way ? ! ... EGOMANIACAL ! ...

[@kevinm.8682]

He's not trying to coach, he just wants to control everything. He's unwilling to bring in experts who can draft, experts who can coach, and experts who can discipline. This team is very poorly disciplined. They know that Jerry has the final say, so they don't fear getting cut by a coach. Jerry needs to hire a strong coach, get the F out of his way, and let the man bring him championships!

[@rudimwongozi2169]

Jerry Jones is a modern day Al Davis (of whom I think Jerry was an admirer). His method achieved great success in the beginning but at some point it all falls apart. Because whenever an owner has too much control over the day to day football operation it's bound to fall apart.

[@dougfredricks2017]

Black and Gold fan here but truly respected what Jimmy 🏈 Johnson brought to table as Coach in Dallas. Jerry could screw up a One 🚗 funeral. 🙄

[@jpman9795]

Every cowboys fan knows Jerrry Jones screwed the dynasty when he fired Jimmy Johnson...and after he just won a SB for him. Who the hell does that? Probably the worst blunder any owner has ever made for his team. Jones gets to live with that mistake every year when the cowboys disappoint us once again.

[@dorianwright7537]

Jerry th boss of the bulls did the same thing to Jackson,Jordan

[@jpman9795]

I know right????

[@l.u.rehuher3714]

@@dorianwright7537 you're Welcome to your Jerry's World

[@petersonofleo11]

I think 90s Cowboys win 1 more Super Bowl in the 90s if they don't fire Johnson. I bet Brett Favre is forever grateful with Jerry Jones ego because I doubt the Packers win a superbowl in the 90s with Jimmy leading the Cowboys since they were his biggest nightmare. Broncos vs Cowboys superbowl in 97 and 98 would be epic since it was Elway on a mission.

[@charlesciminera5881]

Then how come they won with Barry Switzer?,Did Jimmy jonhson engineer herschal walker trade or did Jerry? Did Jimmy draft all that talent or did Jerry? Every yearcowboys eithie win division or come close would you rather have idiot owners of the Giants?

[@michelleschultz472]

Switzer won with Jimmy's players. Don't ever kid yourself. Those were Jimmy's players.

[@speedracer2336]

Troy was the real coach!

[@yoshit9819]

Jimmy won at UM with Howard's players. And he should have had at least one more national championship but was out coached at the fiesta bowl. That's just the way it is

[@sirjer73]

@@yoshit9819 what are you talking about. He didn't get out coach Penn State barely had 100 yards of total offense. Miami outgained them by a 3 to 1 ratio. Testervade threw 5 picks and Miami still had a shot to win the game. They won the following year and beat OU in the title game. That OU team from 86- 88 was 33 and 0 against college football and 0 - 3 against Jimmy Johnsons Canes. The following year after they lost a lot of high-end talent to the NFL. They got hosed at Notre Dame coached by that clown Lou Holtz . Either Cleveland Gary scored on a touchdown or was down on the one yard line. Of course the call went to the Irish and the Canes lost 31 -30, going for a 2 point conversion. The Canes finished number 2 in the polls. After Jimmy left to take the Cowboys job Dennis Erickson took over and won National Titles with Jimmy's players in 89 and 91. FACTS AND YOU ARE WELCOMED!!!!

[@coltonstringer507]

So we're in agreement that Mike Tomlin sucks

[@Ynkno]

yeah. still a great coach though

[@oldmansilas559]

Colin has said it many times. It doesn’t matter how good you are. You cannot overcome bad management. Jerry is a bad owner from the football side.

[@unbiascowboy1537]

Ehhh I mean not many owners can say they had as much success with their teams as much as Jerry has. I think the message here is pride comes before a fall. It’s so easy to become prideful and arrogant when everything is going great that you forget everything and everyone that got you there because you start thinking you were the only reason for the success. The fall of man makes you rethink everything. I think we all go through that falling state, it’s just it took Jerry damn near 30 years to actually get it lol.

[@mitchelll3879]

You can overcome bad management: won't last long, and most management is this way, you get it done in spite of them

[@oldmansilas559]

@@mitchelll3879 You’re making my point. It won’t last long, as you said, and in the case of the Cowboys. It’s been 26 years

[@glennw9927]

We agree but for different reasons. The issue since the 90’s is Jerry the GM. Horrible as GM which is the real problem.

[@oldmansilas559]

@@glennw9927 Yep, and this is the reason why I don’t look for the Cowboys to do anything but struggle through the season. Then go one, and done in the playoffs.

[@MrFf00]

They had the most talented team in football history and Jerry fucked it up

[@Oooyessbro]

Stop it lol they were good but stop it lol

[@greenmother1960]

they were deep with talent 92-96

[@anthonyhicks8224]

You forgot , "Peroid".

[@ZhangtheGreat]

I won't say Jerry didn't, but he shouldn't get all the blame. That Cowboys dynasty was at his peak right at the start of the modern free agency period, and free agency can gut a team pretty quickly.

[@efrain21460]

The most talented team who said that

[@hollybeat6901]

Jerry is the reason this team has been what we have seen the last 27 years...

[@Read1Timothy2]

No, the reason Dallas Cowboys are where they're at. It's because Jimmy Johnson built a Dynasty and Jerry jones fired him And they haven't won anything since Jimmy's team was broke up. Switzer won with Jimmy's team.

[@brettdavidson3866]

Very true, I'm a steelers fan, but the way Jimmy was treated was nonsense. Jerry ruined the team

[@eltonyancey6426]

@@brettdavidson3866 He still thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

[@ifeatu4278]

Amen I call him and jr serial killers of cowboys Nation, because they have been killing us fans for years, we've always had a great quarter back and the last two QBs have been bargain basement nobodies instead of getting QBs with a winning pedigree we tried to save money [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]couple of good seasons we offer the whole house and end up looking like clowns with highest paid QBs that produce no playoffs win Dak is just FOMO 2.0 ! Not good enough QBs!

[@ellisonlowrimore7751]

I’ve said this for years!! 46 year Cowboys fan here!! He has NO BUSINESS being the GM!!!

[@muhammadshakoor8745]

@Ellison I feel you, for me 57 years a fan and "He has NO BUSINESS being the GM!!!"

[@glennw9927]

100% correct.

[@anthonyhicks8224]

I have always said, "Love the Owner, hate the GM."

[@Mike-jw5pm]

Same here man. 38 years and counting 🤬😩

[@virnan]

Go back to your boiled peanuts

[@thelakeman5207]

It's all about Jerry, not the Cowboys. That's the problem.

[@johnmanning4097]

Exactly who ever heard of the owner having all the Press more than head coach that's ridiculous

[@omegaman6770]

It’s all about Jerry’s EGO !! Which is as large as the state of Texas !

[@lyleswavel320]

He does know how to make money, people will pay just to watch them lose

[@DoctorEnigma01]

Jerry is the new Al Davis, trying to win a modern game with an outdated philosophy. Dak is not Troy Aikaman, Zeke is not Emmit Smith, Cooper is not Michael Irvin, and his meddling with the coaching has become destructive. You either keep in step with the times or the times pass you by

[@mauriceanderson5780]

I like Jerry.He make BOBO THE FOOL,LOOK COOL.GO GET NOMO.HA HA HA.

[@mauriciokrebs2913]

Al has been actually a coach and knew the game. He made mistakes, but no comparison

[@omegaman6770]

Exactly right Doc ! And as for Jerry being able to get 500 Head Coaches to win a Super Bowl coaching the Cowboys it hasn’t happened yet ! Can’t count Switzer as it was Jimmy’s team ! So Jerry has had egg on his face for over 25 years now ! The yokes on him ! But us Cowboy fans are bearing the brunt of it !! Thanks a lot Jerry !! 🤬

[@dwightlove3704]

Former Niners Owner Eddie DeBartolo said this yrs ago Jerry wanted to be like Al Davis.

[@dwightlove3704]

@@omegaman6770 The Cowboys could have been what the Patriots are now.Aikman&Johnson could have been what Brady&Belichick are right now.I once asked this as a fantasy question who would win the Super Bowl between the Cowboys of the '90s and the Patriots of '00s and beyond and they Cowboys have a YOUNG RANDY MOSS in their stable?????

[@artistaprimus7080]

Its sad to hear how pathetic and insecure a grown man, Jerry Jones can be. Jerry's ego has to fill the room or the stadium. Bribing the media to attend hus press conference. Jimmy should have told Jerry to stuff his gesture. The silly bastard threw away a great team and coaches for the attention he craves so dearly.

[@francisdashwood1760]

What you described is the reason why Jerry is a billionaire in the first place!

[@omegaman6770]

Artista your last line was SPOT ON ! “ The silly bastard threw away a great team and coaches for the attention he craves so dearly ! “. 👍

[@INYB]

His insecurity has manifested into millions of dollars of anti aging remedies

[@mauriceanderson5780]

@@francisdashwood1760 RIGHT NOW HE'D PROBABLY TRADE THOSE BILLIONS FOR A S.B.Ha ha ha.

[@mauriceanderson5780]

@@omegaman6770 yes it was.SILLY RABBIT.WELL YOU KNOW THE REST.

[@TheJCFan]

The worst part is that Jones has been hearing fans for decades asking him to step down as GM and let someone else handle the job and STILL refuses. Thats a huge ego. He cares nothing about that team. If he did, he would do what is best for IT instead of himself.

[@dougsmith3821]

Jerry don't care about shit but money. He's a great money guy and he could still be that guy if he'd just get a GM and a fuckin disciplinary coach and stay outta the media

[@GQ-jv9uw]

True he wants the glory

[@3912James]

Then it's time for the fans to divorce themselves from the Cowboys....but 85%-95% of the fanbase would rather subject themselves to the dysfunction that Jerry created and support this franchise no matter what than deal what's in front of them.

[@uncleroams279]

Seen this ten thousand times on jobs. Instead of owners, supervisors, and managers staying in their lane and teaching and coaching, they punish, bully, fire, and write up people to their own detriment. Hire the best to do the job, then get out of the way. Micromanaging kills organizations.

[@pepopepo553]

I did not know it but im here for this comment

[@Thedirtyginger]

It’s even more absurd when micromanagers at firms don’t have a widely known reputation for being bad managers and luck out by hiring one of the best and brightest only to have that person quit and take a similar gig at a competitor all because said owner/micromanager was too ‘busy’ and unavailable. This of course is after the new hire becomes frustrated when no one will show them the processes and ways to efficiently do things as is the norm for that particular firm. Said managers also are usually Ill tempered and often resort to yelling obscenities, especially so if they are women.

[@therealivydawg]

The owner of my company does this as well.

[@peterchase5198]

Ego kills productivity

[@joebussen5034]

@@Thedirtyginger HA HA HA, had me until "Women". I'm shocked the Woke Police haven't come for you.

[@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666]

I've never been a Cowboys fan, but I disliked Jerry when he fired Coach Landry in such a disrespectful fashion. Yes they needed fresh blood, but he didn't have to spill it to get there.

[@johnyb9884]

Agree. Tex Schramm included

[@hitek9too255]

Landry had to go. The game passed to him.

[@Catman-ke2dx]

the owner only sold to jerry if he would fire landry. He might have also wanted it done that way. It was part of the deal made with jerry.

[@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666]

@@Catman-ke2dx Like I said before, I agree that the game had passed Landry by. My issue is the way that it was done, it was disrespectful to one of the gods of football. I witnessed this in RT.

[@SECRETARIATguy224]

How should it have been done?

[@ac4185]

One thing that gives me joy every year is when the Cowboys around week 4 or 5 start taking about how they got the best team and are going to win the Super Bowl. Then see Jerry’s face after the playoff loss. 😭😭😭😭. He deserves it.

[@terrypaulson5945]

Yeah I get sick of hearing by week 4 or five "here comes America's Team" and listening to all those high paid broadcasters spouting it is now their time. And you and I know after watching football for 50 years you start to see the weaknesses and "they don't fix it" and it then shows up in the end. I bet heavy on GB because SF showed me that Dallas had no run defense, Bills too, and they did not fix and I bet on Aaron Jones to run rapid Also Dallas front and LB's are to small for running teams. Everybody banged the table how good their pass rush was BUT watching every SB winner or run up for 50 years had/has balanced teams in all phases. Results showed yesterday

[@oldhef9927]

You hit that one pretty good buddy 😅 as a 40 plus year fan myself that's a good assessment 😅

[@ac4185]

@@oldhef9927 My dad is a huge Cowboys fan. He is beaten down 😊

[@tonsouth]

As a 49er fan, i was incredibly grateful that Jimmy was pushed out by Jerry. The Cowboys had in my opinion one of the best pass rushers in (ex 49er) Charles Haley (5 time Superbowl winner) and man, that O-line opened massive holes for Emmitt. This team could not be stopped. IMO, Steve Young could not win a Superbowl until Switzer took over. Jimmy was a coach who always upped the standard and pushed his players to greatness. But taking a team to multiple Superbowls takes its toll and when you have a meddling owner the pressure can get to you. Bill Walsh also retired a few years early because of the pressure of winning.

[@jackduncan5442]

If Jimmy Johnson was not FIRED, I believe Dallas would of 3 peated. But yall had a great team in 1994, they 49ers wouldn't have gone down without a fight.

[@briancusack4386]

@@jackduncan5442 Once again Jack, I agree with you.

[@greenmother1960]

@@jackduncan5442 those cowboy-niner games were epic!

[@ericdavis1809]

Excellent post, Owen. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that Young and the Niners would finally get their Super Bowl once Jimmy left. Indeed, it came to pass.

[@jlaudiofan1984]

@@ericdavis1809 you know the hero when the 49ers took on the cowboys happened to be named Eric Davis

[@johnsradios484]

Sometimes you only get one chance to get it right, the cowboys had it right and Jerry Jones decided to stir the pot.

[@willielittle9301]

Allowing Jimmy to leave was a big mistake by Jerry. At least Jerry is finally admitting that error. Jimmy believed in the ONE VOICE rule but it could not have worked long term with a strong A-Type personality and charismatic and flamboyant owner like Jerry Jones. That ONE VOICE rule should have been SHARED.

[@3912James]

We got hoodwinked yet again.

[@greenmother1960]

jimmy didn't leave. jones chased him away!

[@OxCart78]

Jerry is finally realizing this? Wish he would sell the team and get out.

[@lk5388]

The jones will never sell the team. Its a cash cow if they go 0-16. Their only hope is jerry finally gets out of the way and hire a proper gm and coach that takes care of everything and have it written in their contract the jones just chills in the owner's box.

[@treymiller4373]

@@lk5388 The only problem is Stephen Jones is just like Jerry. There’s not another NFL owner who loves and craves the limelight and attention like Jarrah Jones!

[@briancusack4386]

@@lk5388 Someone like Sean Payton.

[@redbaron779]

No one who has the money; want the team. This is not the Atlanta Hawks, Milwaukee Bucks, or the Buffalo Bills. This is the Dallas Cowboys the price tag would start at $6 .5 billion and them they must have enough cash reserves to operate the team for 2 years without revenue. So another $2 billion. Then all potential owners have to approved by the NFL owners.

[@rkwittem]

@@redbaron779 indeed it's not. Those teams are actually well run

[@jaredwatt9846]

As a eagles fan, i love jerry thinking he smarter than everyone else

[@kmjr2400]

As a Cowboys fan, I'm glad I'm not an Eagles fan, but you have a point

[@jaredwatt9846]

@@kmjr2400 at least we not Cleveland fans huh

[@kmjr2400]

@@jaredwatt9846 LOL Good one, and I totally agree! 👍

[@redbed1604]

No one but Jerry Jones would fire the Head Coach after back to back Super Bowls.

[@cwc8979]

Facts!!

[@Catman-ke2dx]

he didnt fire Jimmy lol Jimmy Quit and wouldnt come back. He just irritated Jimmy to the point Jimmy no longer wanted to coach for jerry.

[@jimwynn6421]

I was a cowboy fan from 1969 until around three years ago. The reason that I am no longer a Cowboy fan has everything to do with Jerry. I have to say that my love for the team started waning when Jerry axed Jimmy. I never got over it and neither did the team.

[@Jen195152]

You took the words right out of my mouth!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@jchung1506]

I got out of that abusive relationship too. I couldn’t handle Jerry anymore.

[@johnsharpe6411]

The 91-95 Cowboys won because they had the best offensive line in the league and one of the best defensive lines in the league. The lesson of this was never learned and never even acknowledged. The short resurgence when Parcells arrived was because he reemphasized the lines. But when he left the lines were ignored again. The Cowboys got lucky in 2016 and they ended up with the best offensive line in the league and Elliott had his best year but the O-line was allowed to fade again, so the Cowboys faded again.

[@anthonyhicks8224]

Agree 1million percent with you. Plus, he never got a good replacement or great backup for Tyron Smith after the Altanta Falcon game.

[@Duval-Dame]

Yes that offensive line was solid.

[@ericdavis1809]

Excellent points, but I would NEVER (to quote Chris Jericho) discount the impact of 'The Big Three' (Aikman, Emmitt and Irvin) on the Cowboys Super Bowl years. Without a doubt, guys like Erik Williams, Leon Lett and Mark Stepnoski were major-league contributors in the Cowboys resurgence, but it was the Aikman, Smith and Irvin engine that made it all go.

[@kevinpayton2664]

Don't forget 2014 and Demarco Murray. He set the single season Cowboy record for rushing yards and why? Him and the o-line.

[@bryanvoigt9977]

Kinda like the Eagles now. Best O and D lines in the league. There’s a reason they say the game is won in the trenches.

[@nco_gets_it]

Funny how Jimmy never needed Jerry, but Jerry needed Jimmy, yet Jerry is convinced he is the secret ingredient. That is a textbook description of narcissism.

[@jimmysapien9961]

That is Crazy - very interesting

[@yousircantknow8987]

This is why Jimmy was sooo good in Miami. And everyone lived happily ever after.

[@tfp0052]

I was, past tense, a Cowboys fan since 1966. They played the great Green Bay Packers in the title game. I was in the 5th grade and that year was my introduction to pro football. I watched the Cowboys religiously every year until a few years after Jimmy Johnson left the Cowboys. They simply became abhorrent! They were painful to watch! Jerry Jones and his boys have tried year after year to duplicate Jimmy Johnson's brilliance and failed miserably! Their teams are but a pimple on the butts of Landry's and Johnson's incredible teams! I really wish Jerry Jones would admit defeat and sell the Cowboys! The Cowboys may be able to rise again, but not under the Jonses! For sure, I will NEVER return to the Cowboys until the Jonses are gone!

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

I'm pretty much in the same boat. I hung on as a fan up to about the Bill Parcels years but that was it for me. I stopped watching ALL NFL games and concentrated on college football and basketball instead. I have no regrets about that, although I am surprised at just how much has happened in the league in my absence.

[@aitonadoni1021]

Did you become a fan of another team? I am where you are at, and I kind of like the Bengals. Is it possible to switch teams, after 45 years for me? I feels like it is bigger than a religion change. What are your thoughts?

[@lookinforthe70s]

I feel this same way. Word for word. Except I was a fan since '77.

[@HiNRGboy]

I've been a fan since '90-'91 season so I've been through the amazing early to mid 90's teams but I completely understand why you've all given up, it's been a train wreck for the most part, with a few interesting years here and there up till now. Those few years where they were doing so well post-'95 is what has kept me going as a fan.. It's not like every single year has been bad at all. If every single year were abysmal then I'd have left a long time ago, but no, there's been plenty of good years, they just have come short in the playoffs but it's not like they're the only team that does that and there are far worse teams..look at the Washington Commanders for instance!! How would you like to be a fan of that awful team. I'm still a fan and proud of our past accomplishments.. I don't believe for one second that they'll never rise to the top again either. I respect your decisions to stay away, but I can't do it, love them Cowboys too much even with this long ass drought!!

[@HiNRGboy]

@@aitonadoni1021 bro you can be a fan of whoever you want, I totally get it believe me haha. I've tried to before myself but just couldn't do it, too much passion for the Cowboys. I love this team regardless of the past 20+ years of mediocrity. One day they'll be back in the Championship game! I know we all miss the Landry and Jimmy Johnson years, they were truelly something special for sure.

[@bigpapa1470]

This is one of the biggest organizational chokes is sport history. They could have easily had 4 Super Bowls in a row, maybe 5.....

[@dwightlove3704]

I will never forget the tirade by Michael Irvin after he heard Jimmy was leaving the Cowboys!!!!!

[@anthonyhicks8224]

Either I forgot about this or I never heard of this. Do you have any info on this??

[@Samuelfish2k]

@@anthonyhicks8224 and no reply…

[@milwaukeejt7483]

@@anthonyhicks8224 Yes, Irvin was very upset. At one point he publicly stated, "You fire Jimmy, you fire me." If I remember correctly, Troy Aikman calmed him down.

[@anthonyhicks8224]

@@milwaukeejt7483 Thanks.

[@dwightlove3704]

@@anthonyhicks8224 There was some footage of this I will try to find it.Irvin was asked about the Cowboys and he said that they could have won 5X Super Bowl titles and imagine if they had RANDY MOSS!!!!

[@NovaRedBaron]

The problem with the Dallas Coyboys can be summed up in five words: Jerry Jones' big fragile ego. He wants the Cowboys to be all about him instead of the team. When the team or the coaches get more attention than he does he interferes in order to bring the spotlight back on himself. His ego leads him to believe he knows better than everyone else. Cowboys fans deserve better.

[@trailerparkcryptoking5213]

I can sum it up in ONE word! NARCISSIST ‼️

[@pick2568]

Again with his team building analogy, here's one For years Oakland took on the misfits and the older experienced players and won a couple of super.bowls. Jimmy built the Cowboys on trades for players who fit a need or that he tried to recruit as well as his Miami players. He also found players that were exceptional but unappreciated by their coaches.

[@charlieg4732]

The day Jerry got jealous and said bye Jimmy 🖐🏻 Cowboys been a disaster ever since

[@048et012]

Those 90's teams should have 4 straight Super Bowls.

[@shawnmoore1726]

You right and 6 all together!!!

[@superfly19751]

100%

[@hitek9too255]

5 at least.

[@willymcmasters52]

Jerry wanted to be the next Al Davis but even AL let John Madden coach now Jerry more resembles Al on the back of Al career

[@johnnyewing8608]

WILLY JERRY COULD NOT HOLD ALS NUTS

[@willymcmasters52]

@@johnnyewing8608 oh I know I’ve been a life long raiders fan I was just making the point that Jerry wanted to have his hands in everything like Al . He should of just let Jimmy run the the team instead of trying to over rule Jimmy

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Exactly!!! Same exact kind of ego as Davis but without a tenth of his knowledge about the game and the league.

[@jeromeflowers5297]

Thank you for posting this video! I would definitely give this video an A grade. As a lifelong Steeler fan I remember the Cowboys in the early 90s, also the Herschel Walker trade that started everything. I have never never been a Cowboys fan, but I will say this, Dallas was about to dominate the 90s, yes they were. Jimmy Johnson was a football guy that knew how to evaluate talent and I believe he got a little frustrated with Jones' meddling and Dallas has yet to recover from this breakup.

[@ericdavis1809]

Great analysis: Nailed it!

[@abelcastro4477]

They where the team of the 90s. 3 out of 4 super bowls. Championships. But yes they could have had more no doubt

[@kevinpayton2664]

Yep, never recovered.

[@allencampbell8322]

Jerry Jones is an embarrassment to the NFL

[@stevelewis9993]

And Dallas fans

[@kensalazar5066]

Not really, yes from a football team/ playing n GM stand point. But he's revered by all upper NFL Management for his efforts to make the league better..

[@allencampbell8322]

@@kensalazar5066 To make the league more money

[@Bey11ktb]

Cowboys would have won 5 and maybe 6. Jimmy would have never passed up randy moss

[@jackduncan5442]

I say 4 or 5. Jimmy never would of been in Dallas regardless to take Moss. Also he passed on Moss in Miami.

[@sirjer73]

@@jackduncan5442 Jimmy left the U after the88/89 season to take the Cowboy job. Dennis Erickson would've been the coach at that time period. Moss signed with FSU but got kicked off the team.

[@briancusack4386]

@@jackduncan5442 Well said, Jack. I agree with you.

[@joelgalvan8358]

Not good enough,this moss, kid

[@briancusack4386]

@@joelgalvan8358 Lol!

[@StainlessTIG2]

If Jerry would and would’ve just stick to the businesses side of the Cowboys, we’d have 7-8 Super Bowls if not more. It’s frustrating!

[@melanietatco1838]

And the Niners, which are my favorite team, have won 1 SB, had 3 SB appearances, and 6 NFC Championship game appearances since then

[@richardbuse228]

I am surprised that Bill Parcels lasted as long as he did at Dallas. I couldn't believe he took the job in the first place. Jerry Jones is the real flesh and blood incarnation of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.

[@michaelsupernor4682]

Actually that's Nathaniel Charles Jacob Rothschild.

[@djquinn11]

@@michaelsupernor4682 : Excellent Supernor, excellent...

[@keithmurray3827]

Fuck Parcells - he didnt really do shit in Dallas

[@rickeykindred2342]

Bill Parcel was just riding the coat tail of jimmy Johnson's team

[@TheLocalLt]

@@rickeykindred2342 no he wasn’t it was a decade later and they hadn’t made the playoffs in several years. Parcells first year he made the playoffs with Quincy Carter at QB…

[@marctricomi2775]

Jerry's been paying for that folly for over a quarter century now.

[@stuksy4321]

and his team's fans

[@mauriceanderson5780]

And i love it.

[@tfp0052]

We've all been paying for it! Jerry just keeps being Jerry!

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

No Cowboys fans have been paying for it. And to think so many fans were ready to burn Coach Landry in effigy after just 3 years of losing football and 5 years since we had been in an NFC Championship. How many fans now would be thrilled the team had been to three NFC Championship in a row within the last decade compared with the shit we got instead? How many fans would be thrilled the team had won a Super Bowl within the last 12 years compared to being almost 30 years since the last one?

[@ericdavis1809]

Jimmy Johnson was the Vince Lombardi of his era, IMO. Jones was an excellent businessman with great foresight on the business side, but it was Jimmy who should get the Lion's share of the credit for rebuilding the Cowboys, IMO.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Hell Coach Landry contributed more to the rebuilding of the team than Jerry Jones did.....

[@grandpavanderhof]

The Lombardi of his era!?!?!? Lombardi in 10 seasons won 3 NFL championships and 2 Super Bowls. The only equality between the two is the Super Bowl totals, after that it's ALL Lombardi. Lombardi NEVER had a losing season. He only lost ONE playoff game in his coaching career. Remove the 6 playoff wins in the two Super Bowls the Cowboys won and Johnson is 3-4 in the playoffs.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

I find it interesting that they talked about how insular the front office is for the team today and how they don't listen to outside voices. Ironically that is what killed the Landry Era Cowboys as well. At one point they were innovative in a way that nobody else had been and they were doing things that nobody else had done and Landry taught and invented defensive and offensive schemes and sets that nobody else had ever done. And then they stopped innovating and they refused to bring in outside help in the scouting department and on the coaching staff and the first thing that it tanked was the draft classes that were coming in and then it started causing problems in the offensive and defensive sets. The difference between then and now is that Landry and Schramm and Brandt recognized that they had a big problems and were starting to take steps to try and fix things. You see that when they hired Paul Hackett to come in and run the offense in 86. Before Danny broke his wrist in week 9 that year Dallas had the number one rated offense in the league. Of course Pelleur put an end to that. The last draft of the Landry Era produced a HOF player in Irvin a multiyear Pro Bowler in Ken Norton Jr and a solid multiyear defensive lineman in Chad Henning. Other players were already on hand as well like Kevin Gogan and Nate Newton who would help anchor that offensive line in the 90s. I'm not saying they were going to take the team back to the Super Bowl but I am saying they were trying to change. Now though.... Jerry just keeps doing the same shit over and over again and expecting a better result. That's the definition of insanity. It's also the mark of a leader without his own creativity or ability to innovate.

[@hermanwoods1584]

100 % in agreement and concur with Michelle's statement that Barry Switzer won the Cowboy's last Superbowl appearance from Coach Jimmy Johnsons roster.

[@RichardLStagg]

Colin you hit the nail on the head with Jerry. I have been blogging on every media outlet how Jerry has found a winning combination financially with fielding a mediocre team for 27 years. Without paying a game changer type player (non drafted); again Amari withstanding. Jerry whether he knows it or not cannot duplicate the blueprint that Jimmy and Norv established. Now that his team value is 8B I don’t think he cares if they win another SB. He is a business man first and a football owner/fan/ football guy second. He figured he can field a mediocre team year after year and still be the richest sports franchise owner in the world. This all coming from a fan of the Cowboys for 50 years. I know the boys.

[@2023FourRunner]

Congratulations Coach Johnson on Your Over Due Induction into Canton. Also Thank You for all You did for Football and the Dallas Cowboys. It was one Hell of a Ride

[@paddle_shift]

Dave story also applied to Jason Garrett. Julius or Felix Jones had a bad game and Garrett said that his performance was unacceptable and may not start the following week. That was on Monday. On Tuesdays Jerrys press conference Jerry was asked about Jones performance, Jerry said he would start. Didn't care what Jason said the day before. Jasons nuts were removed and had 0 change of succeeding as a head coach.

[@dwightlove3704]

If Jimmy was still in Dallas during the '98 draft Randy Moss would've been catching laser beams from Aikman.

[@dsc5754]

The curse of Jimmy Johnson remains with this current team 😅💯

[@jamest681]

500 owners could have won with that team.

[@BillF1967]

There’s a clip of Mark Schlereth on a talk show from years ago talking about the Cowboys will never win another Super Bowl as long as Jerry Jones continues to make himself the focus of the team and undermines the head coach. Still true to this day.

[@justinrogers8080]

5 Super Bowls at the minimum. 92-95, and 98. Maybe a repeat in 99. Dallas almost went to, and would have won, the Super Bowl in 94, and Jimmy would have drafted Randy Moss. The one thing that Jimmy staying would not have stopped would be down years in 1996 and 1997. Regardless if Jimmy had left or not, the one thing that he wouldn't have prevented is injuries. More specifically the big injuries that hurt Dallas for the 96 and 97 season were TE Jay Novacek's back injury, causing him to miss all of 96 and retire after that, and Emmitt's various injuries during those 2 years. The "370 Rule" was eventually going to catch up to Emmitt, regardless if Jimmy stayed or not. But nonetheless Jimmy would have drafted Moss, and that would have gotten Dallas back to being an elite offense at the end of the 90s. The ironic thing is that if you go look at the 98 Cowboys offense's stats and compare that to the 97 Vikings, they are very similar. From PPG to individual offensive stats they are very close to each other. Moss would have done the same thing for Dallas as what he did for the Vikings. Regarding the other side of the ball, the defense was actually good for the rest of the decade, giving up only 15 ppg in 96, and 17 ppg in 98 and 99. They didn't need much more help, though Jimmy getting Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor to Dallas would had made them that much better.

[@saj8]

I argued with a Cowboys fan about that when the Cowboys were having issues with getting into the endzone for a while. Novacek was the key to that offense.

[@briancusack4386]

Justin Rogers: I like the way you broke things down, but what makes you think Jimmy would have drafted Randy Moss? As Coach & GM of the Miami Dolphins, Jimmy passed on Moss.

[@justinrogers8080]

@@briancusack4386 that is a very good point. He did pass on him by trading the 19th pick away while Moss was still on the Board. I think doing that was the move that Johnson did with thinking of the best interest of the Dolphins. They had already drafted a WR in the 1st Round a year prior in 97, so probably didn't feel the need to draft another WR in the 1st Round two years in a row. I think if Johnson was still in Dallas then he would have made the move that would have been in the best interest of the Cowboys, and I believe that would have been him drafting Moss.

[@briancusack4386]

@@justinrogers8080 That's fair. You could be right. As you noted, in '97 I think he drafted Yatil Green for the Dolphins. Unfortunately, I believe injuries derailed his career.

[@ricflair7603]

Whatever you don’t know

[@brotherskeeper2253]

Pride will destroy a kingdom. I've never seen an owner who would sabotage themselves more than Jerry Jones. You have to be crazy to be a Cowgirls fan as long as this dude is owner

[@samsonelliott5962]

That same pride destroyed the Seahawks.

[@greenmother1960]

@@samsonelliott5962 exactly, you got Beastmode and on the 1 yd line and you throw tyhe ball so lynch won't get the glory for scoring the winning touchdown after he refused to talk to the press. i wonder was that carrols idea or gotohell's (goodell)

[@shortyg1018]

@@greenmother1960 Hell I'm a Cowboys fan and even THAT pisses me off, I can only imagine how Seahawks fans felt.

[@TL2354]

Cowgirls? You’re the opposite of clever and original

[@robertacker2764]

That's an understatement.... this franchise will never win again.

[@williemclean3224]

This is what happens when the owner thinks he’s a coach. The Vikings are calling it collaborating. I call it owners wanting to run the team. Jerry ruined a dynasty.

[@robertolongoria7037]

I’m so glad to say I turned my back on the cowboys in 1996 🙂

[@calvintillman9250]

So did I. We knew what the outcome would be.

[@greenmother1960]

so did i, and said they wouldn't win another super bowl for a long, long time....

[@shortyg1018]

Yeah last year was my breaking point, if Jerry doesn't care then why tf should I? Look at the Dallas Mavericks to see an owner that actually gives a fuck and is actually passionate about the game, I wouldn't want anyone but Mark Cuban as the Mavericks owner because he's done a fantastic job 20 plus years but Jerry? It's time for him to GO...until then, I've delegated Cowboys games to "background noise" while I do more important shit around the apartment.

[@anthonyhicks8224]

I'm almost there guys, but not yet.

[@dannythorne7143]

Me too.

[@superfly19751]

I have to say Dave is the best source for this topic

[@JoeyKO757]

The very thing that killed the Cowboys is the very thing that killed the redskins bad owners but Dan by far is the worst owner the nfl has ever had.

[@martinprice9441]

Ever heard of William Clay Ford?

[@JoeyKO757]

@@martinprice9441 no

[@JoeyKO757]

@@martinprice9441 he was worse than snider!!!!?

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@JoeyKO757 Detroit Lions owner.... What do you think?

[@JoeyKO757]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 ok add one to that list, but I think with the new coach and quarterback I believe Detroit may have a winner.

[@MarkSmithhhh]

Ppl sometimes forget that the cowboys VERY well could have been 4 time back to back to back to back super bowl champs... 4 straight appearances in the nfc championship and 3/4 superbowls from 92 to 95...they lost a good one to eventual champs SF in 1994...how do you let that man go

[@davidcadena8114]

After Jimmy left, the Cowboys quickly became overrated and underachieving,fact. Quick note Stafford has won more playoff games in one year then the Cowboys have in over 25 yrs. I won't mention Jimmy G, that would be cruel.

[@edmyers9403]

As long as jerry is the owner cowboys are going nowhere

[@davidcadena8114]

@@edmyers9403 he continues to force his ego on the Cowboy faithful. It's his team. We see the difference between Jerry and Kraft. Kraft hires smart people to do their jobs. Jerry hires people to do their jobs, but he undermines their authority. I hate the Patriots(jealous of their dominance over the last 20yrs.), but I have to admire the way they run their team. On most teams the face of the team are usually the HC and the QB and star players. Jerry forces himself into the spotlight. He continues to do the same thing year after year, and expects different results. A little pathetic. Hey, but he's rich.

[@mauriceanderson5780]

That's 27yrs and counting.And about JimmyG. He has been to a SUPER BOWL. AND HAS MORE PLAYOFFS WINS THAN THE COWGIRLS

[@davidcadena8114]

@@mauriceanderson5780 truth

[@ikemancil3850]

Yep he finally got out of that purgatory of. A team in Detroit and landed the right place finally. I hope he gets that golden ring at last. He's paid his dues and then some. The young man out of LSU is gonna when more than one. A Bengal in school and a Bengal in the NFL. Gotta be Destiny. Sent to lead the Bengals from purgatory. One confident young man . Calm as could be at halftime even down big. You can tell his teammates believe in him already.

[@bruceward97]

Great interview

[@ebg5062]

A lot of people ask, what would have happened had Jerry swallowed his pride and let Jimmy be Jimmy? The answer is to point to the Patriots. Belichick grinds Kraft's gears to no end, but Kraft swallowed his ego, mostly avoided butting heads with Bill, and the rest is history.

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

The reason the Cowboys have sucked every since Jimmy Johnson left is that Jerry Jones's #1 criteria for picking players and signing them to big contracts is their loyalty to him. It doesn't matter if that player is not that talented or capable, or tends to choke in playoff games. There's no accountability for how well they perform or how badly they do. They are all Jerry's Favorite Children and as long as they schmooze up to him, he loves it.

[@dwightshealey8288]

Barry Switzer was a little bit over his head? The dude tried to carry a gun on a airplane!!

[@kevinstaggs5048]

I met Dave Wannstedt at Jason Taylor's HOF party. He's a really nice guy that enjoys talking football. Jimmy Johnson and Dan Marino were arrogant jerks. Larry Csonka was the most friendly and gracious man there.

[@stevelewis9993]

This explains a lot about Jerry Jones…. After 8 or 9 head coaches and almost as many QB’s and who knows how many great running backs, there is only one position that has been there all along…. The GM, Jerry Jones. He is too stupid to realize he is the biggest problem. If he had a manager running one of his projects, he would get rid of the guy ASAP with this type of track record. We are dealing with a rich snot nose owner who could never make it as a football player, so he bought a team. To bad it was one in Texas…. The Cowboys will never win a Super Bowl because Jerry will cause to much interference… Give the fans a break Jerry retire and let someone who knows what they are doing run things….

[@jlh4jc]

Jerry: I screwed up! I should have never pushed out Jimmy. I also need to reevaluate the operation so we can get back to the Super Bowl Reporter: So is hiring a GM in order? Jerry: I'm Jerry Jones, the owner, president, and GM of the Dallas KayBoys!

[@jerrymcgeorge4117]

When sports teams fail one of the first things the ownership does is fire the general manager. Since Jerry won’t step aside, no matter what happens further down the organization the culture and decision making won’t change.

[@hawk2156]

Oh boy if Jimmy was coaching the whole time they had the Tripletts,they probably would have won 4 or 5 straight superbowls, something that could have been done and will never be done.

[@michaelhuffman6429]

Never liked Jones, firing Coach Landry, when he fired Johnson, the Cowboys have never been the same. I believe had Jones not done his meddling, the Cowboys could of easy won 3 more Super Bowls.

[@TL2354]

Could have

[@kyleeverett7059]

I didn't know we needed a video made about THIS

[@jdtractorman7445]

Jerry is the same guy that sold more tickets than what was available for seats in the stadium for the super bowl game, remember that everyone. It's just so disappointing to think what could have happened if Jimmy was just left alone to coach without outside interference.

[@TL2354]

Don’t tell people what to remember

[@michaell874]

Jerry Jones made his mistakes, but the agitating thing is that he has repeatedly been making the same mistakes. Legendary coaches Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells brought a big importance on bringing in guys were were durable, upright citizens, and had a knack for never quitting on a play. These are reasons why they collectively played in almost 20 championship games, 10 Super Bowls, and winning 6 of them, not to mention the ‘95-96 Cowboys that won on the team Jimmy Johnson built. Always the bargain Hunter without any sense of what is going on, Jerry has a knack of drafting guys that have dropped significantly in the draft, basically ignoring the reason(s) why. Guys who are injury prone or who have off the field issues are guys good coaches shy away from, but not Jerry. The only time he ever shied away from a talent with some issues was when he passed up on Randy Moss. But he hit on everyone else. And they in turn have missed more games than they played. Another issue with Jerry is that he is not honest with the talent on his teams. Always a below average team, Jerry fools himself into thinking they are just one player away, and chooses to give up the future for one marginal player at best, and the end result is this team still cannot get past the wildcard game. The team has no identification on either offense or defense. Is the defense quick, fast, strong, aggressive, intimidating? They have one good talent on each level of the defense, has not been able to stop the run with a secondary that is still a liability, and that defense is better than the offense. The offense doesn’t do anything unless they are playing against a real shitty team or are already getting blown out, to which the defense plays it’s pass prevent defense, allowing easy throws to wide open receivers under the zone. On the OL, there is just one proven veteran. Other than Martin, the only other talent is WR Cee Dee Lamb, and even he drops too many passes. Despite a cream puff schedule and playing in the worst division in the NFL, I don’t think this team can win more than 8 games this year, and Jerry Jones is still contemplating trading future first round picks for an OL who would probably get injured, miss the rest of the season, which means Dallas will once again give up a high first round pick for absolutely nothing. It would be the typical Jerry Jones undisciplined move that we’ve all come to hate.

[@TL2354]

Yawn

[@gelmashni1]

Jerry Jones should take a page out of the Robert Kraft's playbook: if you have the resident genius in the NFL coaching your team, let him do his job and don't interfere. The Cowboys could have had so much more success than the early 90s if Jones' ego didn't get in the way.

[@waynenoll1967]

Jerry should have just let Jimmy alone, they would have won maybe 5 Super Bowls in a row. His ego was the undoing of the team. I do respect Jerry for his stance on the kneeling.

[@1954ggb]

Jerry STILL believes he can do it w/o Jimmy. If he didn’t he’d have hired others to run the team a long time ago 🏈

[@ericdavis1809]

I guess the fitting phrase here would be: It's ultimately Jerry's team and he can do what he wants with it! Few of us agreed with firing Johnson at the time, but relations had become so testy that, in Jerry's eyes, something had to be done.

[@Christopher-xn6rb]

KEEP DAK, KEEP McCARTHY, KEEP THEM ALL … !!! Sincerely, A Niners fan

[@HiFi5280]

Won back to back and then up and left because he couldn't tolerate someone trying to take all the credit and spotlight. Jimmy wanted his players to have the shine and Jerry being such a narcissist couldn't help himself

[@BaahBen]

Never heard this before. This is terrific.

[@phskin]

Jerry did screw up and run Jimmy off. However, Jimmy seemed to demonstrate a Coaching Job ADHD even after he left Dallas. I think it was a matter time before Jimmy got the wander lust and bolted.

[@georgetoussaint185]

Jerry wanted to be center stage. He wanted to be recognized as a football guy and a talent evaluator. He was neither! He wanted all the credit for the cowboys success despite not having anything to do with it. His pride, his arrogance and his ego are the reason the 90" cowboys did not win more Super Bowls.

[@aidenrokez8629]

Imagine if Jimmy was still with the cowboys we could have gotten 7 titles.

[@calebfleming123]

Was aikman actually good tho? I bet 1 or 2 more but idk how good aikman actually was

[@aidenrokez8629]

@@calebfleming123 aikman had 3 rings so even 1 or 2 more he would of had 4 or 5.

[@calebfleming123]

@Hate Myself I figured that was the case. I heard in an interview that he said Romo was a better QB than he was.

[@lk5388]

Maybe 2 more. But the cowboys age were starting to show. Jimmy may have had to go back to the drafting well and pull rabbits out of a hat to keep that team rolling beyond that.

[@MasonStrand]

The cowboys messed up in the 2000s when Jerry tried the Jimmy Johnson approach without Jimmy Johnson: trade for old good players, but the problem was coaching wasn’t behind it. And we stuck with coaches for too little time and then too much time (Jason Garrett is the case in point, though I still think that if Romo were QB, Jason Garrett would’ve gone on to win a super bowl with him in 2016. Dak was too young. And if not for the 2014 game against the packers, Romo might’ve had a super bowl then too.)

[@StylistecS]

Why was this not made in 2000. I been singing this since that year.

[@peterbruno657]

The problem with JJ being the GM is there is no accountability. The cowboys didn't achieve their goal this year and instead of the owner looking at everything, JJ's position was the GM did a great job and put together a super team that a competent coach could win a SB with. No questioning on whether or not the Dak contract was smart. No questioning on why bad coaches keep getting hired. No question of any GM move bc he isn't going to fire himself.

[@RDDee-sr8my]

Dave gives great insight much appreciated as a long time Cowboy thank you for all the you you allowed me to enjoy because of the outstanding job you did during your time as a Cowboy coach your legend sir

[@frankieclayton9303]

Jimmy Johnson keeps proving Jerry Jones wrong after all these years

[@keith4826]

49er fan here…. I hope Jerry lives to be a 100 years old and keeps doing what he is doing. Sorry for the older Dallas fans. Do not give a 💩 about the others.

[@frankieclayton9303]

Jerry Jones will not win anything again because he should've left it alone with Jimmy Johnson.

[@dwjoseph59]

Had to click on this one as soon as i saw that video title!!

[@frankieclayton9303]

It's been so tuff since Jimmy Johnson left

[@christopherlucas1395]

This guy went all the way around the barn yard to explain what happened! Jerry already openly admitted years later that he ruined that dynasty because when he saw all of the success that Jimmy was having with the team, he wanted to be directly involved in that success. And that’s when Jerry started crossing the line between coach and owner. He stepped on Jimmy’s toes. Why?…..because he could. You know the old saying……just because you can….doesn’t always mean you should. Had Jerry just stayed in his lane and let Jimmy coach the team, who knows how many championships they could have won.

[@johnnoone4323]

As a longtime Cowboys fan / follower, Jimmy Johnson leaving the Cowboys after the 1994 Super Bowl was classic - self-destruction. The Cowboys have never been the same since. The only thing I question is: Jimmy Johnson does not stay in positions for very long. I question whether he can be trusted over the long term as being dependable.

[@shep1582]

As a longtime Cowboy fan, I would have taken my chances

[@BennyandMartiOporto]

Jerry bought the Cowboys in 1989, firing Tom Landry, stating it was unacceptable that the Cowboys had not returned to a Super Bowl in over ten years. It's been over 26 years since the Cowboys have to a Superbowl. It's time for Jerry to go! Sell the team Jerry.

[@mitchelll3879]

I think they would have 5 rings for that era

[@glennw9927]

I don’t know about 5, but I will go to my grave believing they absolutely would have won 4.

[@jeffpoehl9100]

Jerry got a 2nd chance with Parcells,and couldn't resist meddling and driving him off

[@Solarsystemrdffdfyyhh]

I saw it coming way back when. Jerry sucks building a bigger stadium. Selling more crap and everything else still doesn't bring championships.

[@rolandperez4284]

title of this video is exactly right!

[@anthonykology1728]

keep up the good work Jerry

[@jamiecrawford8133]

As a Cowboy hater I'm okay with it

[@Bellthorian]

If Jerry would have shut his mouth and just signed the checks Dallas would have won seven or eight Super Bowls during the Troy/Emmitt/Michael era. As a Redskins fan I have to say THANK YOU JERRY JONES. I hope you live to be 150 years old.

[@marvinvaughters1099]

Without even watching this clip. I'll tell you how Jerry screwed up. His ego and the fact that he ran off Jimmy Johnson.

[@billymartin7483]

Update: Cowboys lose in divisional round again against 49ers, 19-12. Dallas is now just 5-12 in the last 27 years since Super Bowl 30.

[@kevinpayton2664]

The Cowboys had chances in that game but couldn't pull it off.

[@Metalmitch72]

Will never forgive Jerry Jones for ruining the Cowboys. Don't get me wrong ecstatic i got to see them win three Superbowls but 26 Superbowls later and nothing. They are a joke now,need to make big changes if not its one and done or 8-8 for the next 30 years.