Collecting Physical Media Isn't Fun Anymore

[@DONWASABIJUAN]

I’ve taken a year long break and it was probably one of the best financial decisions I’ve made while collecting. I’ll start buying physical media again, but I don’t need everything. All I want is to curate a collection that means something to me and one day be done. I no longer care about the shiny limited edition box sets for films I’ll probably not even like.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

With me, I’ll never be fully “done” because there’s new movies coming out every year that I wanna own. But as far as back catalogue stuff, I pretty much own everything I feel like I need.

[@jameswyman5752]

I enjoy buying the movie. I don't need all the extra stuff which jacks the price up.

[@TonyThompson1981]

I've been collecting for over 30 years, and I'm still loving it. I only buy things that I can afford. And I don't give into FOMO. If I buy a Blu-Ray and then they drop a cool 4K Steelbook, I think "dang it" and move on. And I actually watch the movies I buy. I'm not collecting just to collect. I'm collecting because I love watching movies.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

You’ve got the right idea

[@donnellcoleman7784]

U should be enjoying it & not trying end up being broke

[@TheNickybobby1]

I feel like you should only own what you want to own and what you’ll watch multiple times, you don’t need every new release and if anything you could get many other films you love for the same cost as a new 4K or cheaper. Only invest in what you have and what’s comfortable for you.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I completely agree.

[@supoa9489]

This is an important video i started collecting in 2016 and its crazy how much the scene changed. The obession with cover art and slipcovers far surpassed the actual content of the disc.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thanks for saying that man, that makes me feel vindicated. I appreciate you watching. You’re so right, shit is a lot different now.

[@brianturner4875]

I fucking hate slip covers. I usually toss them. Just an extra step between me and the movie. It was only recently that I realized that people went stupid for those things.

[@supoa9489]

@@brianturner4875 Yeah i do the same sometimes

[@pd3665]

I have been collecting for a while. One of my "core" philosophy which worked for me so far is - Do not buy the same movie twice. Here is how i do it - (1) When I buy a movie, I try to buy the best format available for example buy the 4KUHD-Blu Ray combo if available vs. just the Blu Ray or just 4KUHD. Collector set/box set over individual release. (2) Maintain a catalog (i have a Letterboxd list) so I don't buy the same movie again, by mistake. (3) Even if I miss out a release with a slip case and the same movie is later available with an updated slip case or packaging element, I won't touch it.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I love that rule! It’s always a great goal to have a collection that represents quality and not just quantity.

[@tacticalsquirrel8194]

I feel you on this. Physical for me is for preserving the version & features I want on without worrying about licensing in the future. But I agree, just upgrading to upgrade is diminishing returns.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Well said

[@michaeldietz2648]

As somebody that’s been collecting movies since DVDs first came out, I think the best thing to do is to not upgrade especially if you have the Blu-ray just buy new releases. I own roughly 1000 movies 40% of them are DVD another 40% is Blu-ray and 20% 4K Blu-ray. Going forward everything I buy is 4K Blu-ray but in reality I only purchased about 10 movies this year.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

You're right, it's a good idea to focus on the new releases and not worry about upgrading your entire collection! It would drive you crazy.

[@GRORGvideot]

@@Talesfromtheshelf yeah, I bought Unforgiven on 4k although owning it on bluray and kinda regretted it afterwards, despite the new release having a nice crisper pic. Also I think the whole collecting aspect is wrong in a sense, in my opinion. When I bought my first dvd back in 2000, I did so, because I wanted to see that particular movie. 24 years forwards it's become: I need this, I need that, fill my shelves.. without even always feeling that "I would like to see this movie."

[@donnellcoleman7784]

I started laser disc / vhs & ced era

[@bachtuna]

10 movies a year wow sucks to be you 😂😂😂

[@michaeldietz2648]

@@bachtuna lol really that’s good to know :) obviously reading comprehensions is not your strong point. Maybe you missed a point that I have about 1000 movies. I have pretty much every movie I want. I only need to purchase movies that are new as they come out.

[@marcoesquandolez4737]

I've been collecting since VHS. I can't tell you how many times I've bought all the Lucas and Spielberg, Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, etc etc. I think you're giving good advice, though everyone is different. I made a pact with myself in 2015 that I would keep no more than 1,000 discs in my collection. I currently have 789. For those that have large collections, be sure to do the math and be sure you can watch them all before you die.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I also have no desire to have more than 1000 titles. I think I’m at like 980 or so. So I’m basically right where I wanna be. Thank you for watching !

[@hifi-enthusiast]

The best thing I can recommend is to get a good 4K Bluray Player like one of the recent Panasonic players or the Sony UB-X800 Mk2. You'll be absolutely blown away by the picture quality these players squeeze out of DVD's and regular Blurays. And you won't feel any need to "upgrade" your collection to 4k. DVD's and Blurays are dirt cheap when buying second hand right now.

[@zeebooboo9663]

Is it region free?

[@hifi-enthusiast]

@zeebooboo9663 over here in Europe they are not, but I saw that in the US you can buy region free versions of both Sony and Panasonic players. There are also many videos on how to perform a region free hack on these players. Haven't tried that.

[@kevinkelley3906]

It's so frigging expensive for the "boutique titles" The fun is going to a Goodwill or any of those thrift shops and finding a title you've been looking for or just a great title.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It really is. Makes the thrift store finds all the more fun!

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Save up or find it cheaper

[@alanscott7170]

I totally agree. It is crazy to say this but I've basically dropped out of the physical media collector hobby. Back in the day, I collected VHS, then DVD, then blu ray, but when 4K came along I jumped ship. I simply cannot justify those insane prices. Nor am I interested in rebuying everything I've bought before. I'm not a slip cover fetishist, so I also got left behind when so much more emphasis stated being placed on presentation and packaging. The era of a great, obscure movie loaded with come cool features at a decent price are over. And so I'm OUT!!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I wouldn’t say the era of a movie with good features is over. That’s still very much a thing.

[@tylerjackson787]

I personally just buy dvds and keep it at that. Yeah the quality isnt always great, but it works for me and I get them cheap at thrift stores, people give them away, and I shop on whatnot for them.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

If you have a system that works for you, I think that’s awesome

[@sorenpx]

When I first started buying movies, they were on VHS. When DVD came along, I recognized that the upgrade in picture quality and the inclusion of special features was a massive upgrade. (Having never really known anything about LaserDisc, the directors' commentaries, behind-the-scenes featurettes, etc really blew me away.) When Blu-Ray came along, again, I recognized that it was a big upgrade over DVD. Not only was the picture quality clearly better but the Blu-Ray often had additional content that the DVD didn't. When 4K came along, I jumped aboard. I have a 4K player and about 20 4K discs. But it's the first format where I'm not really sure that the improvements are worth it. Many times I find the 4K picture quality to be nearly indistinguishable from Blu-Ray. Honestly, I think we could just stick with 1080p from here on out and I would be content.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It’s definitely a case by case basis. Some 4ks are simply not worth it where others very much are. It requires research and being selective

[@bachtuna]

Sucks to be you watching crappy dvds and Blu rays which is a shameful disservice to your eyes and ears. Us true cinefiles won’t listen to your idiot talk that has the same value as my last fart 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

[@donnellcoleman7784]

There beta max n laser disc 1st

[@RockyRoyale84]

Been collecting since I was a kid in the 90's. I'm finally at a point where I only buy maybe 5 to 10 4K's/BR's a year. It helps a lot that 99% of new movies suck. I'm mostly just getting catalogue releases like Arrow and Kino.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

My mom.got me 70s then I was born 83

[@DJProjexion]

I get what you're saying man, and it's totally valid. I've always approached physical media from a movie-over-packaging perspective and because of that I've been able to avoid all the fomo and insane prices. These days I get the most fun out of thrifting for movies on the second hand market, I've been doing that since the VHS days and if anything it's gotten better over time. If this hobby is a true passion of yours I hope you get back to the fun of it in the near future!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Oh I’m with you on that side of it man! I’ll always collect and I probably should’ve made sure to emphasize that more in the video. I just don’t play the game of new releases much at all. Thanks for watching !

[@scroogeMcduck-l1e]

I try only purchasing movies that I can see myself watching multiple times, which is actually fairly easy to stick to. Except for when it comes to Arrow Video box sets, I have convinced myself to buy movies that I don’t know if I will ever watch.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s a big part of it. If we have unwatched movies in our collection, 9/10 times it’s because we don’t actually want to watch those movies, we just convinced ourselves we did.

[@brandoncarter439]

Dolby Vision and Atmos has been the deciding factor with my 4k purchases the last couple of years. The only exceptions are films that I absolutely LOVE. I’m exhausted with rebuying the same movies, especially if it’s something that could be made obsolete tomorrow, if a company would put in just a little more effort.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Forgot to mention Dolby among the technical aspects as far as whether things are worthy up upgrading or not. Good point.

[@eliwohlenhaus]

Physical media is fun to collect and display, but extra features can only get you so far. It's almost more important to buy physical media of older movies in their original state rather than upgraded quality versions with "extra features." My favorite Star Wars movie growing up was A New Hope and it was a VHS copy made by my dad from a recording he made when it aired on network television. Imagine my surprise when I first saw the Blu-ray version!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Well said my friend !!

[@TheLivingDeadFormats]

Collecting Physical is still fun. It's still enjoyable to get your favourite films or blind buy a movie in a genre you like but perhaps haven't seen that particular title. (Ie; what i do with Giallo films). The only thing I'd say isn't the "fun" part is not having the money to keep up with all these new box sets. Ie; Shaw Brothers boxes, Giallo boxes, TV Series Box sets etc etc. FOMO of the special editions getting sold out before you have the money, and being left with getting the basic edition or having to get scalped by eBay assh*les.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

There is definitely a level of dopamine associated with getting new releases that we all enjoy.

[@ColoradoKid303]

I went pretty hard collecting DVDs back in the day. Once Blu-ray came out it was confusing with the HDDVD war so I didn’t get into collecting Blu-ray. I am an absolute nut at collecting 4K nowadays. I love it! It would be kind of a bummer if you already have a huge Blu-ray collection and you have to decide what to upgrade. I’m having a great time collecting boutique 4Ks and limited editions of my favorite films. This is the last format we are going to have, so I want all of the nicest editions, and that’s what I collect.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It’s definitely going to be the last format. As long as someone is collecting within their means more power to them !

[@ColoradoKid303]

@ Absolutely! If you can’t afford this hobby, it would be absolutely asinine to be in it. Pay $15/month to stream all of this stuff! I have seen KZbinrs make videos about going into debt collecting movies and it boggles my mind. You seem to know what works for you, and that’s what matters.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

​@ColoradoKid303 I'm rich n I know not be stupid with it

[@xellosmetallium8519]

You aren't alone, collecting any kind of physical media is a pain, especially if it's sports card or comics where you are grading the stuff on top of trying to find it. However, as you mentioned, once you have your CORE collection it gets a lot easier. Just don't collect everything, pick 1 maybe two directions and stick with them period.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s the key, I’m gonna have to try and narrow it down.

[@rabidbobby]

You hit the nail on the head about upgrades. I am 37 years old and I got into collecting standard DVDs in college around 2005 into 2006. Almost immediately, by the end of 2006 and on, I got hit with 2 disc and/or remastered DVD reissues of most of the movies I had owned and I upgraded them like a madman and was often spending tons of my money double dipping these movies. For example, Anchor Bay did this a lot around 2007-2008 when they'd change a release's artwork and add one new special feature. Then, when Blu-ray began taking off, most of the same movies got yet another reissue on that format and I made a decision to stick with the standard DVDs and I still stick with them to this day. Luckily for me, they still release new movies on standard DVD. I initially did this because DVD players were much more plentiful in the late 2000s. They were also in video game systems and computers. You could always find a place to play your DVDs. I also figured that there were always going to be new formats until the end of time and it would be insane to try to keep up with this for the rest of my life. As I get older, I feel like it's best for one's sanity to just find the format you like and stick with it. It saves a lot of money and headaches.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That is exactly the kind of thinking I've been trying to get across.

[@ethanwetzel7]

Vibed with alot of the sentiments laid out here. So many collectors have tons of crappy TV and mediocre films. People need to CURATE their collection not fomo into a need to own every subpar B movie horror ever released

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Curation is so important

[@YY-mi9rf]

Being a collector from the VHS years, DVDs were a huge jump in quality and Blurays were "OK" depending on the release (not so much like Evil Dead 2) but regardless , Blurays were excellent enough to the point that I saw zero point in upgrading anyfurther. 4Ks? Nah, waste of money for me.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It really depends on the film! Some are definitely worth the upgrade.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Beta max and laser disc

[@teamalmestudios6148]

This is the same shit that got me out of physical media in 2010 or so. I had a massive DVD collection I'd been curating for about a decade, and blu ray was starting to pop off, and I was very daunted by the idea of double-dipping on dozens of films. Around that time streaming was becoming a thing, so I was subscribed to Netflix disc service and got streaming, Redbox was a thing, and I stopped buying in favor of renting discs and streaming. I went most of the 2010s not buying very much, just the occasional release of a film I REALLY loved. Got sucked back in the past few years for 4k, but I still have many of my old DVDs from back in the day, and I'm only upgrading them from time to time when I find a good deal. Plus the move from DVD to 4k is a lot more apparent than blu ray to 4k

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Man, yeah I feel for you. I can’t imagine having to go through this whole thing twice haha. Thanks for watching and your insight. It’s important to hear for me because it kinda reminds me that this has been a problem a lot longer than I’ve been collecting.

[@teamalmestudios6148]

The FOMO thing is the reason I don't watch nor do I make any "haul" or "unboxing" videos - for me it's too much focus on the consumption aspect, like "look what I got" and shit

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Dude same. I would so much rather talk about the movies themselves as opposed to just showing off a bunch of shit I spent money on. There’s not as much substance to the latter, imo. No shade to those who do that! I watch that kinda stuff all the time. It’s just not what I enjoy doing personally.

[@teamalmestudios6148]

@@Talesfromtheshelf I even talk about releases (on my other channel), cause it’s fun to see what’s coming out, but I don’t wanna show a pile of movies I bought lol

[@popculturemass]

@@teamalmestudios6148 This is the other channel I mentioned lol (Hi it's me, hope you're well!)

[@Horror_Collector4Life]

I have to agree with you on many points because collecting physical media these days no longer has the same effect as it did in the 80s, 90s and 2000s and I have been collecting myself for over 30 years, so I can easily assess how the hobby has developed over time the decades changed. The 4K format doesn't have much appeal for me personally and as you said, 90% of the films released have been available on Bluray for years and are significantly cheaper. In addition, I'm a retro film fan and don't need to see everything ultra sharp because a lot of it loses its charm, which of course is just my opinion. I also realize that nowadays this hobby is purely a collector's market, which is basically only interesting for hardcore collectors who can't pre-order the stuff fast enough because of the "FOMO" effect. Personally, I was always only interested in the film when I bought it physically, but somehow I get the feeling that the film itself is no longer the focus for many collectors like it used to be. Instead, they moan when the standard 4K Blu-ray comes without a slipcover, which I cannot understand, and in the end you are ruining your own hobby if you are only interested in steelbooks, large boxes, and slipcovers 🤦‍♂️ This isn't meant to be hateful, it's just a personal recognition of mine. I still watch films on DVD today because for me it's not necessarily about the best quality, it's the content and what you associate with it that's important. Godspeed 🤘

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

DUDE you absolutely hit the nail on the head. I agree with everything you said. I wanna emphasize that I don’t necessarily judge anyone who feels the opposite as you and I do, it’s definitely not meant to be hateful or anything. It’s all just how I’ve adapted and shifted my habits over the years. I think people need to be okay with collecting differently as time goes on. You can’t always just go pedal the medal and buy everything. It’s not sustainable.

[@luisdomenech539]

Laserdisc and VHS were one thing, HD changed the landscape so it was a whole new ballgame. If anything, the HD formats served to revitalize collecting. We now have our favorite movies in the best possible quality and if you're a true film fan, you'd be rejoicing and singing the praises. We've never had it so good.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Unfortunately it is not for you to decide who is and isn’t a “true film fan” :)

[@Horror_Collector4Life]

@@luisdomenech539 I don't see it that way and I'm clearly a film fan with passion and just because the 4K format is now supposed to be the only true way to watch your favorite films, then you haven't understood that every film fan works differently and has different priorities than the so-called hardcore collector community . You don't have to agree but at least you should respect it, after all it's a hobby that should be fun for those who do it, no matter what someone else thinks of it, but unfortunately many of today's film collectors only see that you have to be constantly up to date.

[@samcooper430]

I am older guy and honestly I agree the prices are getting ridiculous. I love marvel but have not bought most of the last phase releases because the movies aren’t very good and the price is too high for a poor movie. I don’t hate DVDS and actually like some of the old menu interactions and features. What I have started doing to have fun again is hitting second hand stores and picking up older movies I don’t have for a buck or 2 a piece. I actually prefer buying an older movie that way because the older cases are very sturdy and I feel the discs were actually made better. If I order the same thing new off Amazon the case is so flimsy it’s not really protecting the movie. Sometimes the newer releases also have a different soundtrack because of expired rights and such. Going and buying everything in the box store is boring but stoping at a second hand store with no idea what you may stumble across is exciting!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Well said on all counts! Buying things second hand and finding gems in the wild is really where the hobby can shine, but those moments for me have been few and far between. Thank you for watching and your insightful comment!

[@stephens4175]

I completely agree with you on this

[@cs8712]

My philosophy is I only acquire it if I stumble upon it in a thrift store for under $3 (and it essentially matches my list of stuff I'm looking for) This way you don't spend ridiculous amounts of cash, and each find has a memory attached to it

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I’m with you on the “memory attached to it” aspect. That’s what makes it fun for me too.

[@Will13874]

I only buy if they're price at $1 at flea martkets and garage sales.

[@popcorndistrict1334]

Thank you, Mark for this, honest thoughts, no sugarcoating! I've been collecting movies since my first job after high school. Started with DVDs, progressed to blu-rays and now adding 4Ks. But my collection over several years was very small but it had the movies that mattered to me, ones that I would watch multiple times. Every since I started collecting 4Ks in 2021, it spiraled out of control and now I am in the process of curating and downsizing, which is fun but totally unnecessary if I stuck to collecting my favourites from the beginning. My biggest advice is to collect what matters to you. And do not let FOMO get you. There are several KZbin channels that thrive on purchasing and showing off their physical media courtesy of their subscribers and watch time, they get kickbacks from your purchases, studios send them review copies etc. This does not apply to the common folk. Assess your situation, reflect on the movie and then make the call.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thank you! All I can do at the end of the day is give my thoughts on this hobby that I do truly love, but the current landscape is simply not fun for me anymore. So rather than it being a hobby where I’m buying things very frequently, it’s more of a thing where I get excited about a release once maybe every six months and instead I focus on enjoying all the discs I already have. Great advice and thank you for watching and leaving this comment. 🤝

[@slate49]

If there’s a film comes out and I don’t get it..I’m not concerned. Something else will be released I’ll purchase. That’s my mindset..and with the prices going up, I’m cutting back a lot

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Affordability is definitely another big concern

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Pawn shop is another good place

[@3056398]

The algothrim took me here, but I agree with what you’re saying and I think it comes across as genuine. My own example is I love Halloween (1978) so I went out and bought the 4K upgrade from Scream Factory despite having the 15-disc box set from years ago. I’ve just cherry picked the sequels I want on 4K at this point for the rest of the series.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@3056398 thank you for watching! If you’re gonna upgrade a movie to 4k Halloween is a very good option. The rest of the franchise, not so much in my opinion lol.

[@MrSlipstreem]

It's refreshing to watch a KZbin video where someone is telling me what they think rather than telling me what to think. It makes the content so much more enjoyable and digestible. This feels like listening to a friend. I chose to stick with 1080p blu-ray and invest in a 4K OLED TV with awesome AI upscaling instead of buying 4K blu-rays. Is it the same? No. Does it still look mind-bendingly amazing? You bet!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Wow I really appreciate this comment. This is what I strive for in many ways. Thanks for watching !

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Physical media isn't dead.Just let you know and studio wouldnt keep pumping new stuff like crazy

[@JurassicRod]

I'm still on DVD. Never upgraded to blu-ray. There isn't much new coming out I enjoy and I have most of the older media I love on DVD already so it doesn't really cost me much continuing my collection with the odd new movie or TV show I want on DVD.

[@sir.reelcinema]

The continuous upgrades to a different format have always been there since we’ve been able to watch physical media from inside our house. VHS to DVD and then DVD to HD DVD or Blu-ray and now Blu-ray 4K. It is just what it is quality gets better packaging changes some people choose to continue to spend the money and some like myself, just want the best quality that they can afford within their budget. 3:24

[@TheUndeadOfNight]

I have never thought of your channel as a physical media release channel . I enjoy the videos like this one where you encourage discussions about movies , or videos like the 'horror movies don't care about Oscars' or the ' watching in the Letterboxd era ' . The idea that a movie I considered bad might be better on a second watch in 4K never made sense to me but I do watch remakes of bad movies hoping they will be better 😄

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thank you!! I know I make physical media topic videos occasionally, but the intent is to speak to larger issues about mentality and culture and not so much about like, my personal collection. Thanks for watching as always my man.

[@MediaFeverPitch]

I'm kind of with you man. I want to make my channel a place to celebrate movies. With very little focus on physical media unless I'm just gushing over the poster artwork. This is what frustrates me with screen factory, not only are they only releasing upgrades but there's no reversal artwork. And maybe one new commentary. I've only upgraded a few movies from scream fracturing and I've ended up keeping the Blu-Ray so I could use the alternate artwork. Now I have upgraded some movies to 4K like Scarface because I had a better transfer. But especially recently I do get tired of everything being a re-release.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It’s so many re releases and very few new titles being added to their catalog. It’s disappointing.

[@MediaFeverPitch]

​@@Talesfromtheshelf yeah man what I found myself doing is watching independent movies on Tubi and then if I really enjoy the movie and there's a Blu-ray release, I'll pick it up. The movie I recommend at least watching free is- here for blood.

[@snerfu]

Agree, starting collecting again this year which I only did in the VHS era and now today I'm sitting here like "Why did I just purchase Looking For Mr. Goodbar on UHD?"

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Everyone likes and prioritizes different things. All our financial and spatial situations are different. Even if we can afford to buy something we should ask ourselves “do i really need this?” Just my two cents. Thanks for watching !!

[@Naturelover-u4h]

I have A hundred thousand dollars worth of useless DVD’s I lost My job and I’m now broke, I lost the account 😳🔫

[@sir.reelcinema]

5:42 and that’s the beauty of it. We are all different. We can do what we want to with our collection. None of us collect the same way. I too do not upgrade unless it’s financially feasible if I have a Blu-ray, there’s no reason for me to upgrade to a 4K not at all as as far as I’m concerned the quality of a Blu-ray is good enough however, if I have a VHS and I can get a 4K for around the same price as a Blu-ray I will do it.

[@sir.reelcinema]

Did it again, very valid points. It’s not just the boutique labels, but it’s the combination of the boutique KZbinrs as well. I do like watching the markets because they do release things that you won’t find places like MGM or Paramount or Disney or whatever. 10:18

[@donnellcoleman7784]

Collecting is never ending thing unless u sell it and dont have to deal with it & just stick with streaming & people who think it waste of money and use free site illegal site or app

[@Vegasguy79]

I agree with everything you said in this video. I've been collecting film on physical media for the last 35-40 years. I have thousands of films in my collection. Everything from LaserDisc and Betamax to DVD and Blu-ray. Maybe it's my old man eyes (45m) but most of the time, I can barely tell the difference between 4K and Blu-ray. I would much rather spend the premium $ on an amazing boutique release.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Well said

[@davidmckee2898]

I have never been wound by 4K. I have been very , very disappointed in 4k

[@midlifemedia]

Dude I needed to hear this. I have a couple blus sitting on my "to sell" pile just because a new release with a slip is coming out for one, and a 4k of the other, and both movies are perfectly fine on blu. So I am now moving those back to the shelf and marking them off my to rebuy list, and I already knew it, but you really have helped me decide I need to actually take more action like this.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I definitely don’t want to tell anyone how they should collect, but if by offering some of my perspective I can help someone else make a good decision I’ll consider that to be a good thing. Thanks for watching man

[@ronthorn3]

Definitely DO not get in the habit of rebuying a moving JUST for the art. Unless it’s a new transfer, don’t bother.

[@midlifemedia]

@@ronthorn3 ya a couple things I've already decided I'm doing starting now. One is I will no longer be buying the Second Sight collector editions even if it's movies I absolutely love, instead I'm gonna buy the standard 4ks. Reason is I realized how stupid it is to buy the bigger box taking up space that had art cards I never look at, and books I never read, so it makes absolutely 0 sense to keep buying these. I honestly have thought about reselling all my Second Sight CE's and rebuying the standards just to get the extra space back. The 2nd thing is not feeling the want to upgrade all my blurays when a 4k is announced. A good case in point is the recent 4k upgrade of Fright from Kino. I was gonna jump on it but when I read that it doesn't even have HDR added, and it's a movie that I just kinda like OK, it makes no sense to spend money to upgrade it. I will not be buying any non-studio releases on release as those always get cheaper with time too.

[@sir.reelcinema]

Now I really agree with you, it is become a competition to see who has the newest greatest thing. Now that definitely takes the fun out of it. Collecting is not about doing better than our neighbor or having it bigger stack. It’s about enjoying the collection for ourselves and sharing it with our friends and close family. That is become an issue that I definitely agree with a lot of these large KZbin channels make it out to be like a symbol if you will boast about how big their collection is even though they try to act as if they’re not. You know as well as I do some of these big KZbinr, these titles given to them for free to basically advertise for the studio. That isn’t so much fun. I enjoy spending my time on channels that go out and about to thrift stores and garage sales and flea markets and people that just sit in their Mandan like you and just discuss what is really important about our community and what it is that we really enjoy and our passion for collecting.that is why I have subscribed to your channel quite some time ago. I really enjoy watching you share your opinions on titles and the community. 8:00

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thank you so much for all the feedback and support! I appreciate it a lot

[@esteeb67]

I'm with you and I'm older. Most of my collection is on DVD. I have only upgraded a few movies to blu-ray. I have blu-ray in my collection for movies I have not purchased on DVD. When 4K came out, I just said, I am done. I may buy a 4K player at some point if newer movies that I want (that's getting thin, too) come out only on 4K, but I am not upgrading anything I previously own. The only thing that could change that is if a disc gets damaged or the upgrade is a really great bargain.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I admire your ability to stand fast and not play the game of constant upgrading

[@esteeb67]

@@Talesfromtheshelf It's really just economics.

[@paulcartwright2810]

Greetings from great Britain...interesting balanced points..im 58 years old...im a recent collector of films...although as a mad music fan own lots of concerts and guitar dvds...with about a 100 or so favourite films and TV SHOWS..but ...recently as people off loaded their DVDS ive built up a film collection that i could have only dreamt of in the 90s..and 00s....ive even seen blu-ray coming up at charity shops...streaming both for films and music...people been happy to rent their van halen albums rather than owning the CDs...and the hit and miss watch it quick before its taken off amazon prime lol...its been a real blessing to a guy like me who in a reasonably paid job...not to mention how cheap it is to buy a decent TV...im quite happy with DVD and blu-ray as a special treat if its cheap..or has good extras....ive bought some nice boxsets on ebay...but sadly people are catching on...prices are rising...im glad i bought most of my favourite dvds when they've were literally giving them away...before physical media became a "thing"...

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thank you for sharing your experience! I’m sure things are different overseas. I appreciate you watching

[@paulcartwright2810]

@Talesfromtheshelf just read my comment...when I said "reasonably paid job" I meant reasonably low paid job lol...hence why cheap DVDS and CDs have been great..

[@Holland_Oates]

The collecting boom is leveling out. More people are curating instead of collecting. Also based take on Dead Silence. 😎

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Curation is the way to go. Thanks for watching my friend.

[@gallynuts]

I’m not gonna lie the last 6 months has been rough financially 😂. Movies I never thought would get a 4K release I now own.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Honestly this is a good problem to have. If you feel that passionately about the releases I support buying them. My problem is nothing excites me really these days.

[@danny9405]

Understandable. I agree on your first point, however, this was the same struggle from dvd to Blu-ray and in 10 years we’ll be talking about the next format very likely. Upgrade the titles that you love only.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Good point!! However I don’t see there being another format past 4k personally but I guess I could be wrong. Thank you for watching 🤝

[@briandurant19791997]

Physical media is not failing

[@Mr.Pacario]

Forget blu-ray, I still happily buy DVDs, especially for films that don't specialize in special effects and/or benefit from a smidge of that "movie grain." The only format I truly ignore is VHS--won't ever go back to that.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Yeah vhs exists solely on aesthetic value I think…I own a few but not something I’d ever really actively seek out anymore.

[@Vladimir-nc9ru]

You will own everything and like it!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

😮😮

[@RobertPage1968]

Klaus turning in his grave 😆

[@cavalierdecoupe]

I love your candor and humbleness. Subscribed!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Thank you so much for the kind words, I appreciate it!

[@EthanAnania]

To me, I still collect physical media for both Blu-Ray and DVD. I’m not allowed to collect 4K Blu-ray because it is looking very expensive as opposed to standard Blu-ray. Standard Blu-ray is more cheaper than 4K Blu-ray. Furthermore, I am allowed to just stick to 1080p from now on and I would be very real to me.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Yeah it's definitely tough to justify the cost of 4K sometimes

[@NightimeInDeepSpace]

what irritates me is when a movie that was fairly mainstream back in the day gets released by one of the more expensive boutique labels thereby making it out of reach for many people because they decide to make it a super duper exclusive limited edition autographed box set. thankfully it doesn't happen that often but when it does it's usually a movie i don't have lol.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I totally agree.

[@severbmx]

I think we'll always find aspects of collecting that we aren't fans of. I have a ton of gripes with physical media but at the end of the day I love having my favorite films on the shelf for when I get the itch to enjoy.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Amen

[@GamingNexusuk]

I just buy the 4k that have a significant upgrade over a blu ray or if it's a film or franchise I love, but I won't go out my way to buy a 4k or blu ray just because it's a new release.

[@sir.reelcinema]

Disney’s pissed me off so much over the last few years. I don’t want to steal book. I don’t need something to rust on my shelf lol. Just give us a standard release. We don’t need this boutique garbage from Disney. 12:25

[@LordDementus1987]

They were so greedy with Asokha and Mando S3. They only released these limited steelbooks, no Blu-ray release; and they were asking $50 for a single season. No thanks. That's price gouging BS.

[@sulumonlives4932]

Audio tracks are the key to me. If one of my favorite movies is released with a superior track, then I upgrade. A great sounding movie on a great surround setup is HIGHLY UNDERRATED 🤔

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Hell yeah

[@ChadAV69]

I’m right there with you. It’s just too expensive to keep buying stuff

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It can wear you down after a while lol

[@derekroberts6654]

I get too overwhelmed at the new versions and releases (with music too) and when i get overwhelmed like that… the fun is over.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Yeah our hobbies definitely shouldn’t make us feel overwhelmed. I agree with that for sure.

[@alydematti]

I’ve always been a big fan of Dead Silence, so I was excited to upgrade my dvd to the Scream Factory collector’s edition. I totally agree with you that 2 slipcovers for 1 movie makes no sense though - I’m using the one with the new artwork and the other one just lives in one of my dresser drawers. 😂

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I’m sorry to use a movie you enjoy as my example 😭 but yes the multiple slips is just nonsensical

[@alydematti]

@@Talesfromtheshelf No worries, my friend. I understand where you were coming from and I understand that not everyone is gonna be a fan of the same things. I didn't take any offense by what you said about it, I just wanted to show it some love in the comments! I think James Wan is a great modern horror director and it made me happy to see one of his lesser known movies get the treatment I think it deserves. The same goes for Mike Flanagan's Hush. I really hope Scream Factory releases more of his work, like Oculus and Before I Wake. 🙂

[@TheLivingDeadFormats]

4k is a waste of money IMO. For films released in the 90s and up you could get away with DVD. For films released in the 80s or lower I would suggest Blu-Ray. But this whole 4k thing / obsession is ridiculous. The fact that you have to buy a whole new 4k disc player in order to even view the film isn't worth it. Stick with your Blu-Ray players or Xboxs / Playstations. That's all you really need IMO. I'm NEVER buying 4k's or a 4k player. Not falling into that scam. I'm gonna assume you'd have to buy a whole new type of TV too in order view a 4k disc properly. No, thanks. Lol.

[@Lemonjib]

Whatever helps ya sleep at night ig

[@D82J]

Wasn't that the same case with Blu-ray or maybe you are too young to have experienced the transition from DVD. You still had to buy a new player and disc to experience Blu-ray. Yes, the image is better quality from those two mediums, but to say 4k is an absolute waste is a false statement or opinion.

[@JclaypotchtoonsComics]

You Know. today I discovered something. Physical 4K Movies existing now. I like blanked out I thought it stopped at BluRay.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@JclaypotchtoonsComics welcome to 2025! lol

[@isaiahbelcher95]

Your Dead Silence point hit home lol. I've found myself fall victim to that. I also found myself buying a lot of movies I had never seen before and then not liking them when I watch it. I've made a rule for myself to not blind buy too many movies, especially the niche ones.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s where streaming comes in handy man. I think more people should be open to the idea of watching something they’re interested first, and then making the decision to purchase.

[@isaiahbelcher95]

@Talesfromtheshelf That's become my strategy, and I've saved a lot of money.

[@sir.reelcinema]

Totally agree, we got a lot of cool stuff when DVD came out. It was a pretty good reason to upgrade back then quality was much better and then you got a bunch of extras behind the scenes deleted stuff commentaries that kind of thing I have noticed, however, with Blu-rays, there’s a lot less of the extra as you call shit. And again with 4K it seems like even less sometimes you don’t even get the theatrical cut of the film. 4:03

[@cook1tj]

I just like watching old movies/shows on CRTs. I just thrift/garage sale dvds, and sometimes buy loose discs off ebay for 5 bucks or less. Then I just toss them in a binder and throw away all the packaging. I don't really think of it as "collecting". They're just... my movies/shows. Due to the nature of how I watch them, bluray and 4k have no appeal to me. The idea of someone buying a movie because they like the slipcover.... well that's just crazy.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

This is a good comment for people to read because it really highlights how differently each person collects media. We all have our preferences.

[@EvilKingMacrocranios]

Wal-Mart still does a decent job of carrying new releases and Barnes & Noble too to a lesser extent. Do you have any mom and pop physical media stores in your city? When Best Buy discontinued selling movies I found a local chain of record stores that carries new BD and 4K. I love the experience of going there. Had I known about them earlier I would probably not have gone to Best Buy so much.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I don’t really have too many options within a reasonable driving distance sadly

[@EvilKingMacrocranios]

I think you have a legit criticism that the quality difference between BD and 4K isn't that noticeable, especially with players that can upscale to 4K. It's the sort of issue that may be a nail in the coffin of physical media. That and predatory marketing tactics like steelbook releases, lack of special features, and low production runs. It's all kind of frustrating.

[@MoviePalaceOfBlood]

Did you not yet have a 4k TV in 2018 when you chose to buy blu only? I've purchased 2 large and expensive 4k TVs so part of my buying is that I have to justify investing in those by building up my 4k library and I do want many titles in the best quality, particularly if I don't own the film on blu at all. As 4k has become more prevalent there are a lot of titles being released I already have blus of that I don't need to upgrade for. But certain ones I do. I probably do own the majority of say, my top 200 films but my collection is much larger than that and I'd like to keep growing it, not infinitely but I want it bigger than it is now. How many titles do you own? I have upgraded a lot of blu to 4k but I don't feel inclined to upgrade every time, it depends on the film, but it's still definitely fun to me. I'm a huge horror/scifi collector and every year we are still getting new to blu or never on disc releases, things I've never owned in good quality, and those are great to see. I dont obsess over having the limited edition versions of everything, most Arrow and Second Sight I'm fine with a cheaper standard but with companies like Vinegar Syndrome who have such nice slips I like to get the full package when possible and I usually wait for their sales to pick those up. Your point about watching a new release once then shelving it for years...I think that's just the reality of collecting for most collectors, I'd say for most titles aren't watched yearly, especially the bigger the collection the less frequently titles are rewatched. I curate a lot and it may take me awhile to revisit certain titles but I like having them on hand when I do want to watch them.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I have just under 1000 movies in the collection. You make a lot of good points here. Especially the part about shelving titles and not watching them again for a while. That’s definitely true, but I’d say doubly so in the case of movies we buy thinking “maybe I’ll like it more this time around”

[@6808Justin]

Thanks for another great video. I fully agree that this hobby can sometimes become extremely irritating. Sadly, I started collecting DVDs back in the late 90's. So my DVD library was pretty substantial before I made the leap over to Blu-ray. Around 1000 DVDs in total at the time. So the upgrade was gradual & expensive. Then we get 4k, with this special edition, then that ultimate edition, then the super mega ultra edition. So yeah, only someone who was super looney toonie or is a sadist would continue to play such games IMO. Also, I feel compelled to add. How very irritating I find yt creators who honestly buy every single new release that comes out. Only for show & never to actually watch. It just really bugs me to my core for some reason. I get it, each to their own. But that seems like more of a mental health issue, than an honest collector IMO🤪!!! Thanks again for the awesome video!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It's tough to stay sane in this hobby sometimes. Everyone is allowed to do what they want, but it doesn’t mean we need to try to do the same thing if it’s not right for our individual situation. Thanks for watching !

[@LordDementus1987]

It's getting to be too expensive. Most times I find that buying something digitally is far cheaper. I don't have to deal with bad pressings, don't have to deal with long shipping times. The quality isn't as good, but it's good enough.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

This is the way to do it

[@Chaso-1124]

I hate how a lot of stuff now days is relying on boutique labels to print or release movies, at a jacked up price of course. Back on dvd, just about everything came out on the format and it was easily accessible for a reasonable price. I dont care about a lot of the boutique stuff and just want to own a physical copy that isnt hindered to being 480p. The prices on these new releases are just ridiculous. I will only buy 2nd hand unless there is a really good sale.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It's a real shame, it's just not the same anymore.

[@toddhill7483]

In response to your thumbnail statement. Yes, it is.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Agree to disagree. If it’s sustainable for you, that’s cool.

[@sir.reelcinema]

I’ve been collecting for over 30 years. I still collect VHS DVD Blu-ray and now 4K. I find that I discovered new movies all the time that are my new favorite movies. In the last 15 years, there’s been very few films that I have absolutely fallen in love with it seems as if the quality is gone downhill a lot, however I’m always discovering things I blind by a lot and it’s hit or miss however, when I feel like spending a dollar or two here or there for something I’ve never seen yeah it’s a risk but it’s only a few bucks. It’s extremely rare. I buy a brand new title. My collection has been built on a budget. I have over 7000 titles and all of them are art different and unique some I enjoy more than others. Do I need them no but do I enjoy them yes I started collecting physical medium, before I even started my KZbin channel. My enjoyment of collecting is, not based on KZbin, but however, based on me and that film and the experience and the escape from reality and the enjoyment of someone else’s view or opinion on the world and it’s an adventure just like reading a good book is for some 5:12

[@actualnotanewbie]

8:15 THIS. I recenty got frustrated because I bought the Seinfeld compete series DVD, ripped, sorted, and encoded all the files...only for the 4K and Blu-Ray sets to come out mere days later. But you know what? I'm not really excited about Seinfeld. I'm not watching it anytime soon. I want it, but I only got it because the DVDs were so cheap. After I get media I want more, I'll probably finally shell out the cash for the 4K boxset, if it's still around. I'm now buying Blu-Rays for shows I watched as a teen before collecting, but never finished because I switched to collecting and watching content that I own. So I'm excited for stuff like The Last Ship and Flashpoint Blu-Rays to get in the mail.

[@994pt4]

Yeah, I'm tapping out on 4K at these ridiculous prices. I've just decided that blu-ray is good enough for me...and I'm OK with that.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I respect it man. It’s better to pick your battles. If anything, upgrade like your top 20 movies of all time, and from there just be extremely selective

[@TombHorror]

I agree 100%. Physical media is important but the 4k format is not for me. I got heavy into DVDs in the 2000s and then heavy into Blu-Rays in the 2010s. After collecting this stuff for a while you get a little tired. I love movies but it's no longer about that. These companies feel the need to load up unnecessary packaging, posters and pieces of cardboard. I just want to own the movies, so I've begun to thrift for DVDs of movies I don't own or buy them used online for cheap. I agree that spending 40-50$ on one release just doesn't make sense anymore, and this is especially true if you already own it on DVD or Blu-Ray. Dead Silence would be a good used DVD purchase. I wouldn't spend more than 5$ on a movie like that.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I should mention, there are certainly 4k discs that I love and would consider worth the money. But they are a dime a dozen to me. More often than not blu ray is fine. But yeah, finding stuff out in the wild is where it’s at.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

I started lasers n cedar n vhs days

[@m.dorado6966]

I think that after the journey you've been on, you've come to the conclusion to be practical. My 4k collection has overtaken my BR because I didn't have many BRs to begin with. I've doubled dipped on some movies, but not many. I, too, am starting to hit that wall now.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@m.dorado6966 you’re definitely right in saying that. Eventually this is where I’ve landed at, and I’m pretty happy with it all things considered. I don’t spend much money these days on movies and I have a ton of stuff still unwatched to go through. All in all, no complaints.

[@ChinoCollects]

I’ve been collecting for over 30 years. I never feel the need to upgrade my Blu-ray to 4K. I’m quite content with what I have and the only time I’ll buy a 4K is when I don’t own the Blu-ray. There are even certain films I own on DVD that I never upgraded to Blu-ray because they don’t offer anything of value other than the quality. For example, Armageddon criterion R Rated version. Never felt the need to get a bare bones Blu-ray when I have basically a premium, despite the format. But that’s just me.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s a great example of how different collectors are and it’s cool you’ve stuck to your guns all these years

[@ChinoCollects]

@ absolutely! To each their own. A lot of collectors can get caught up in the hype at times (myself included) but it’s always important to remember why we collect in the first place. Do what you love and love what you do.

[@sir.reelcinema]

I have moved into more of the boutique market for upgrades because there’s a lot of older stuff being upgraded in the boutique sector. Yes, they’re going to do terminator to 300,000 times and 300,000 different ways and same with the Ghostbusters and all of the big box office stuff they think they’re gonna make money on. But that’s where we get to vote with our already why do we need some sort of big box exclusive if the quality we have we’re satisfied with for instance this new never-ending story yes it came out on 4K but no, I’m not spending $200 for this ridiculous oversized box. I will wait until the price drop like $25-$30 and I’ll upgrade my VHS tape at that point. I’m in no hurry. I’ve had a VHS copy of the never-ending story for at least 25 years. 6:38

[@stephens4175]

I never got into the 4K format, I get blue rays and the DVD if I can't get it on Blue Ray or if it isn't offered any other way, but 4K actually makes me dizzy watching it, so I'm all good with that. I only bought a 4K because I couldn't find the movie I like on Blue Ray and it came with that, I don't even own a 4K player.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Fair enough! Thanks for watching man

[@mikemars2112]

Have been buying since VHS but this collector's conundrum has definitely gotten worse, especially with the limited editions. They know there's a subset of the population that will absolutely buy every limited item made. I haven't jumped all the way into 4k yet. I'm actually still replacing all my old DVDs with Blu-ray discs 😂😂

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

To be honest, blu ray is more than adequate for a large portion of films. 4k discs are not all created equal.

[@stark_harshly]

I don't need 4K. Bluray is good enough and the price is right. TBF DVD is good enough if there's no Bluray option.

[@donnellcoleman7784]

4k is like 3d

[@slave_to_cinema]

I pretty much agree with you. You really need to scrutinize the quality of every release because between the studios and the boutique labels, you just dont know what your getting. And its not like these releases are getting any cheaper. Zodiac was disappointing and im thinking of sending the 4k back to Amazon. Its just not worth it. Every movie is different and its worth needs to be judged. But then you have a certain physical media channel telling me that "we are taking it too seriously and we should be happy with what we get."

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

At the end of the day it’s on us as individuals. We’re all responsible for ourselves and shouldn’t look to others to inform our decisions. We can take advice and from others but ultimately we have to do what’s best for ourselves. If you can collect within your means and still buy everything you feel like you need, then more power to ya. Thank you for watching my video

[@mattjindrak]

I think the last Blu Ray I bought was Captain America Civil War back when it came out.

[@StoobsPitt]

The age of movie is my main factor when looking at newer formats, what can they do to this 90s movie in 4k that was already done in Blu-ray. The only upgrades I have ever done has been The Lord of the Rings extended because Peter Jackson himself put the effort in to improve, even then I got 4k cheap.

[@MayerClassicTheater]

I just upgraded my dvd of Gene Wilder Willy Wonka to a standard blu ray, and I was very underwhelmed and disappointed. Is the 4k worth getting?

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I don’t have that one but I’ve heard it’s a good transfer

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

No need to upgrade everything, it's just throwing money at stuff because it's new but that doesn't necessarily equal better. I have most movies I want, it's about the movie itself not the format so I'm not letting any new industry fads take over my collection. I have what I have and it's a lot already of endless rows of shelves, the format is almost secondary to me in that regard. Basically, DVD is still fine and Blu-ray's fine, the experience and enjoyment of a favorite movie has to be the essential thing still.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

Couldn’t agree more man.

[@MayerClassicTheater]

The new shout factory release of Coraline on standard blu Ray is breathtaking in its visual quality. Just sayin

[@MayerClassicTheater]

Note: I keep my old DVD version because it comes with the theatrical 3D version and 3D glasses

[@Bren71319]

I disagree. I still love to order DVD sets and Blu Rays from Amazon!!!

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@Bren71319 that’s awesome! I’m glad the hobby still works for you

[@twentyoneplusvideo0472]

I wanted to buy Mandolorian seasons 1&2 on 4k, but it was too expensive. So I passed. I did get Titanic and Aliens.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

It’s hard to justify the cost sometimes!

[@flmoseley8141]

The only reason to buy 4k over streaming is sound. If you own a very good surround system the difference in sound over what you get with streaming is miles apart.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s a good point.

[@garagegeek4863]

Very sage advice. This is a great video. New sub - I look forward to watching your other content. I actually don’t buy many movies but when I do it’s for odd reasons. I will actually buy a cheap DVD because it’s cheaper, I’m only gonna watch it a few times if that, and the cover art is better in that there’s more of it and it looks cooler. I actually don’t own many 4k movies but I look forward to buying them used. I will buy groups of movies when there are sales. For instance, about a year ago I bought 30 or so Indicator Films on Blu-ray because they were so cheap and they are packed with special features, making it worth the money for me.

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

That’s a great system to have, I’m a big fan of sales too!

[@stevenlapierre1742]

Can I buy your collection if your out

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@stevenlapierre1742 when did I say I was out ? Lol

[@jeremycarr3448]

I just recently got into Store video. Does Arrow release Blu-ray, then 4K later like universal?

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

@@jeremycarr3448 yes

[@HeavyHydrogen]

480p still can look pretty good, unless you need to show off your TV. Upgrade to 1080p bluray if its a $3 for favorites at a thrift store. 4K for those special ones. Dolby Digital 5.1 and video is still magical on lower DVD specs. Even 6.1 on DTS

[@Talesfromtheshelf]

I can respect your opinion but for me, 480p is a pretty antiquated technology

[@VZMadness]

Totally agree everything you said nails how I feel about collecting