Colnago Y1RS Engineering Analysis

[@simmooz3528]

Where was your invite to the launch?

[@Hambini]

I was playing in a very important match in the Grimsby Darts League.

[@simmooz3528]

Oh ok not because of a travel ban or anything

[@colecoleman1499]

Lolzz. Colnago can't handle or bear the style of Hambini. They are better off with homeboy forever virgin looking Peak Torque

[@thedownunderverse]

@@colecoleman1499backstreet’s back, aiight?

[@zzhughesd]

​@@Hambinibrilliant

[@Pratalax]

I've known about the ol' structural strength of squares vs triangles things since secondary school but i've never heard it so neatly described as at 17:10. So simple, and it shows perfectly why it works. Properly tickled my brain, that one! Great work.

[@CyclespeedTours]

There's gonna be a lot of dentists riding these at 27kmh average with the wrong fit because of the bar and seatpost, wondering why it doesn't climb well because it's heavy.

[@TheFeatInk]

hell yes my favourite 5yr old is back

[@kwisin1337]

But time the grand kid has a visit

[@jordanlouis2554]

BABE WAKE UP THE NEW HAMBINI VIDEO JUST DROPPED

[@StopTheRot]

😂

[@keirfarnum6811]

HAMBINI WAKE UP! THE NEW BABE VIDEO JUST DROPPED! 😂

[@thedownunderverse]

@@keirfarnum6811😂

[@gempursuharto]

This is what I’ve been waiting for since the release! Thanks Hambini

[@trannel73]

This is the only opinion about the Y1RS the Internet needs. ♥

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

The bike itself is uglier than its price tag. No more information needed.

[@waynehadley1999]

This frame reminds me a lot of the old Kestrel 4000 LTD Triathlon bike.

[@galenkehler]

I have to admit this is a good looking bike. And the handlebar borrows a lot from the track, where we've seen a lot of shallow drop handlebars with upsweep from the center. Nice to see it integrated into a visually striking machine

[@BrianMcDonald]

Agreed, I think it's a good unique look that will most likely get more appreciated with time.

[@l.nguyen49]

Imho definitely better looking than the Cervelo S5

[@FlyingPastilla]

Maybe they'll go the Canyon way and integrate adjustability in the gull wings. That would be a way to adjust both reach, stack and width with a single setting although it could get tricky to get all three right for a rider.

[@chrisko6439]

It is extremely ugly.

[@BrianMcDonald]

@@FlyingPastilla I think the bar stem design presents an opportunity to accommodate any bike fit while keeping the slammed stem aesthetic. If you knew what distance the bars needed to be from the headset, you could just create a bar that had the winged part at whatever angle/height that is needed while keeping the most aero profile for whatever the length/angle is. It would solve every front end fit issue immediately, and I think with super expensive bikes like this, customers should get an actual custom solution like I've mentioned. Same goes for bar width and flare options.

[@alsbikeshed]

Dentists be frothing.

[@Cynyr]

@18:56 "I like them as stiff as possible" --Hambini

[@forgetful_tiger6676]

also ~Hambini, aged 5, which is quite concerning

[@JibbaJabber]

Said the engineer to the hairdresser. BTW, did he just say 'gusset' and 'stiffness' 😮

[@stuartdryer1352]

Stiffer AND more responsive.

[@storegga]

We are seeing the move away from bikes mere mortals can afford and ride. These bars and seatpost /frame are essentially are a whisper from prototype bespoke per rider

[@davidrock3959]

how does the reduction of frontal area help me when after the frontal area there is a cyclist w 88 kg on 1,74 cm?

[@StopTheRot]

I’ve been waiting for this one

[@vo2maximus177]

Nice review of the engineering/aero aspects of the frame Mr. H. I'm amazed you didn't pick up on the BB though, which I believe is BSA threaded rather than T47? Very interesting. I think Cannondale have also now gone down this road, ironic considering they invented BB30! My takeaways: Pogačar's new bike gains 200-odd grams, however at 50km apparently he saves 20W over the V4Rs. Bearing in mind he wins races by attacking near the end and going solo (be that one day Classic or Grand Tour) this bike is a big win for him. Also, we can now expect him to empty his bottles rather than chucking them, as you point out, they're part of the aero gains. Finally, even if this bike is vertically stiff at the back, Pogačar routinely uses 30mm tyres, so thats where he gets most of his comfort from.

[@speciesofspaces]

I still have a difficult time understanding all the finer details of going aero on frames when the human body still gets dropped onto the bike. It would make more sense if the body was inside the aerodynamic shape like for the landspeed records. But the body would seem to be the largest factor in changing how any aero frame performs. Particularly, in the real world with all kinds of thermodynamic stochastic changes occurring from moment to moment.

[@Reanimator999]

Doing aero shaping on bike frame is a waste of time and effort when it's the human body that is responsible for most of the drag If UCI allowed it, it would be better to attach a windshield/outer shell and crouch behind it to make aero than reshaping the frame to be aero. Triathlon/TT bikes are doing a fine job in aero by having the rider to crouch down a lot with pray mantis position. Even better, recumbent bikes have low profile that reduces drag far better than road & TT bikes and they have option of attaching outer shell that makes them completely aero.

[@norman_bishop]

The only reason they can get away with a trapezoidal frame AND a narrower BB section is the lack of sprinters in the UAE team.

[@frankreyes4]

High-quality analysis. Thanks

[@20frank]

It looks like to me that Bianchi ,Pinarello and Trek got into the rude mood and this produced this. Great video and beautiful bike.

[@markwright8030]

Very informative engineering video and seeing the Y1RS in a new prospective 👍🚴‍♂️

[@anthonylarson7919]

pretty good for an oil worker

[@PeterPutz82]

Such a cool bike, I never would have thought to see Colnago on it.

[@davidsorensen1769]

Historically they had the coolest looking bikes. It was only in the very recent history of the brand that they produced “boring” bikes. Nice to see them start to return to their origins.

[@thedownunderverse]

Who is “them”? You realise Ernesto Colnago sold his name to a conglomerate and had nothing to do with the development of any bike since the C60. The brand means nothing but a font style.

[@U20101954]

i think that rear triangle design is to save production cost as that rear triangle should mostly the same for all sizes of frame

[@miguelduhamel3394]

It's about time ! 🙏🏼

[@stuartdryer1352]

I think it's a pretty cool bike. I will obviously never own one, but it was interesting to see your take on it.

[@jameshoward9700]

They've successfully borrowed the aero front and downtube from variously Look, BMC, Pinarello and Cervelo. Aero yes, complex yes, heavy yes, PITA to fit/pack/adjust/maintain - yes. Can't see a heavy sprinter liking it and I wonder if they got sufficient torsional stiffness from that spindly AF steerer hinge. Any lock stops? Check your torque settings!! The 68mm bb is stoopid and the seat cluster is an absolutely unnecessary 5hitshow. It will allow Pog a crazy forward position, but otherwise it's weak, heavy and ugly. Inelegant and compromised.

[@rikkiola]

Could you tell us how you really feel

[@FlyingPastilla]

I wonder if Shimano will propose a 1x groupset option for UAE to use. Visma has been seen using the S5 on mountain stages with a 1x setup to take advantage of the aero while partially offsetting the weight disadvantage of the aero frame.

[@celestialemissary4934]

Crosschaining is bad

[@wiseoldman5841]

Sloping top tubes on road bikes are ugly as balls! Nice to see a traditional looking frame. My hairdresser approves as well.

[@gregmorrison7320]

Sloping top tubes are great for super tucks. Yeah the pro's can't do it but it's the fastest way down any hill, way faster than someone on this new bike.

[@wiseoldman5841]

Would think so! I recall some nut job putting his feet and legs straight back and had the seat under his mid section, looked like a dart.

[@Cycle.every.day.]

I think peoples eye and mind will adjust in time to liking it , good to be different

[@tonyg3091]

Pog at the start of the next race: HEELOOOOOOOO COLNAGO FANS! TODAY IMMA CRUSH THEM ALL ON A NEW BIKE!😂😂😂

[@Morten_B]

So how do you like the BSA threaded BB on it?

[@endianAphones]

If they sent Hambini tech data before the release then they must be really proud of the bike they made!

[@rogersliu1200]

Colonago has a huge marketing budget on one model release LOL.

[@frankjansen2226]

What about the risk of that seatpost breaking?

[@kris8165]

The "Expert" has spoken 😉

[@dominicbritt]

Colnago, now 100% owned by the UAE, has made this bike for the race team, primarily.

[@Reanimator999]

Ah..Sweet Oil money.. At least Colnago don't have to worry about money like other companies.

[@alainpfammatter8224]

Great and interesting video. Thank you

[@rg807]

I'm case you aren't sure what's happening to media, Trump went on Rogan, whose audience is 5x anything else, and Hambini and Peak Torque are on Colnago's mailing list. Amazing!

[@BPM-xh4yu]

in some pics the positive angle on the barstem looks *huge * and I would hope that Colnago let you tweak your seatpost height post purchase..

[@Gixer750pilot]

Love the look of this bike !!!! It’s the start of a revolution in bicycle design and I hope it continues

[@simonleeofficial]

Honestly I have not liked any bike since c-record era. But the look 795, v4rs we are turning a corner, nice bikes again ❤

[@difflocktwo]

looks like every bike in the past 100 years...

[@colecoleman1499]

Your inbox lit up like a Christmas tree this time around as well. Man it's been a while since a review on bike of urs

[@matsvancoppenolle5796]

13:15 hambini Do you have an idea why canyon dont do this with the aeroad? the gap there ja huge but the bike is still very aero (seen in tour magazine)

[@davemellor4697]

I have a Storck Aerfast 4 it has the same thick forks as this Colnago and is very aero,it weighs 7.9 kilo kitted out in 54cm with sram. It really goes well,but the only thing i will say is is that climbing is just that bit tougher because of the weight.

[@_clemens_]

Hey YT algorithm...why I have to first click a peak torque video of this bike before getting the Hambini one? Fix yourself!

[@michaeldefelice6198]

On the opposite side of things, Would love your thoughts on the tideace ares, no one seems to have done a thorough review yet!

[@greengonzonz]

Love me some different thinking. To many companies bikes look the same. Be brave, innovate ❤

[@toycreator]

amazingly colnago have u and Peak torque criticized their new design before release... damn they are confident 😂.. now I may really need to buy it😂

[@PeakTorque]

When did i criticise? I did not.

[@thomasparkins6749]

@@PeakTorque Critique, or the less often used, but still valid neutral use of criticise is probably what he meant.

[@PeakTorque]

@@thomasparkins6749i didnt say a word about it until i went to see it in person

[@LordAus123]

Excellent video. It would have been great to have a slide addressing performance in high yaw/cross winds and if there were any trade offs made there.

[@iz_no_good]

So Colnago adopted the dogma that aero is more important than weight. I guess Pogi should get more competitive and show up in the coming tours with a more aerodynamic belly of an extra 15+ kilos :)

[@iz_no_good]

Hambini, its time you put the rider into the picture of your aero analyses. Plz make a video and share with us whats the optimal body shape for riding fast!

[@dominicbritt]

The bike was designed for Pogacar - he said what was important to him and they built it - it’s a pretty obvious direction when the race bikes can’t dip below 6.8kg.

[@SandSanta]

I think this is the direction the 14k+ super bikes need to go. They asian super brands have basically caught up in weight and quality so these high end bikes need to offer a lot more uniqueness for the amount they are charging. I think its a great looking bike and I hope other brands give us something like this vs the standard road race bike with the exact same geo as everyone else.

[@OGillo2001]

They're also catching up in price

[@einundsiebenziger5488]

You in the direction that a high-end aero road bike needs to be ugly AF? If you ask me to spend a five-digit hard currency amount on a it, it'd better be the most beautiful bicycle ever made!

[@liviobussani8647]

handlebar remembers me a lot the one from TRed X23 track bike

[@Mapdec]

Good vid. Classic Hambini is back. Most impressive thing is how progressive Colnago is being with media. The western brands are catching on fast.

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

"Most impressive thing is how progressive Colnago is being with media." I was sort of surprised by this too but I know someone who works there..a really smart guy with tons of bike-making experience so I guess it was just a matter-of-time? Maybe the old "Keep your friends close...and your enemies closer" idea? :-)

[@williwacker2774]

You need to be aware that premium aero bikes are aero-optimised for (average) speeds pros can achieve (in races) but you cannot. They don't do this for a speed range mortals can achieve because the potential watt savings would sound much less impressive in their ads. So unless they provide additional (lab-condition) data for lower speeds it remains unknown whether or not the bike actually has a chance to make you faster.

[@Reanimator999]

Yes,. most of us don't have the body built to achieve the level that pros can. Even with the same bike that pros ride, how many of us have developed flexibility and endurance to be in that aero crouching position for a long time? You're right. Let's not fool ourselves. Just ride a lot and enjoy the benefit that cycling brings to our overall health.

[@michaelwolfganglassalle1435]

Great video, is it really made for rich roadies or specifically for the UAE team on flatter sections?

[@colango98]

nice one,good watch thanks.

[@chevyyyyyyy]

Dividing the head tube in half longitudinally should weaken that area because the structurally supporting inside tube in the head has a smaller diameter, no? The underseat confusion is unaesthetic and quirky but not quirky enough; It does not have enough angles there, so it's not for me.

[@rlm4471]

You say that you like stiff bikes, but you aren't riding 6 hour TdF stages every day. If you design a bike 100% around aero, it will ride like garbage and so you usually have to balance ride quality and aero to some extent.

[@adriansmith38]

I don't think they say wider tyres are more aerodynamic - only that they have a lower rolling resistance?

[@adzaharmdsharipin641]

Colnago bike size is based on the length of the seat tube. I wonder how that is determined with this frame

[@theguzziman]

Looks mighty fast and weight can likely be saved in other areas to keep it very close to the minimum?

[@JulAlxAU]

Hambini, are you willing to do the same analysis for some other frames? Cheers.

[@savagepro9060]

2:23 " . . . The sssstDown Tube? Oh boy. Colnago truly have something NEW here!

[@muzzmacc6411]

An aesthetically pleasing bike. Obviously designed around people with short limbs, relative to the length of their torso. How do you achieve aerodynamic gains if you’ve got long limbs? Most of my bikes start off looking fairly normal. Then I have to lift and raise the handlebars to stop me from rotating my pelvis onto my perineum or my entire lower body goes numb. So for all of us ‘Dutch shoppers’…

[@Onigure]

Now I understand the claims that Pogacar refused to ride this one this season. Almost half a kilo it's a lot for a pro.

[@rikkiola]

Depends on the stage profile. Aero matters way more than 500g on many stages

[@dcv9460]

YES! 5 Year old rimming! Hyeah! 😎💯👍

[@trepidati0n533]

Always interesting to me why TT bikes have any hole in bike at all for something like non UCI triathlon. Feels like there should be covers an just use internal hydration. Is it just the point of diminishing returns?

[@sebastiansuek2620]

I'm surprised by the lack of an obvious comparison to the Cervelo S5.

[@dominicbritt]

It looks nothing like the S5 - the steering came from Colnagos TT bike that predates the S5.

[@sebastiansuek2620]

@dominicbritt I didn’t ask about who first started using this design in aero bikes, but rather about a comparison with the performance of the model that was launched last year.

[@mikew466]

S5 is even heavier. It's a boat anchor. I feel like Colnago is also going to have to put out a lightweight climber bike before the TdF next year. I expect one anyway that has some marginal aero built in.

[@DPbike]

I know no one can see 'aero' but does anyone see too 'uncomfortable'? I have no idea about the rear, but the handle bars/stem though, hmmm. Obviously it's a much lower than 'normal' set up, if you want to keep the optimal 'aero front'. The design is sort of Cervelo S5-ish, but with no 'brace' across, to stiffen the bars? Would this design be strong and/or rigid enough but be too unforgiving and uncomfortable?

[@SrFederico]

Aerowise, Colnago just uses what others are already implementing since eternity. Welcome to the club. The only news is that seatpost area, which is nothing but a design feature, as compliance can be achieved otherwise.

[@davidrees1840]

Yeah, as things evolve everything looks more the same, a convergence -airplanes, wheelchairs, frisbees- and they've had aero bikes since the beginning, like '80s funny bikes, the Concept, etc. I guess if Pogacar's always out front alone, he'll benefit from this more than anything.

[@bengt_axle]

How many different seatposts (with different setbacks) are available for this frameset? One of the pictures shows a forward (negative) setback.

[@donwinston]

Why can't you provide vertical compliance with a split seat post like Canyon used to have? Or maybe some sort of suspension with the saddle rails? Canyon no longer appears to have the split seat post so maybe that didn't work well? I would assume that today's wider tires and lower tire pressure solves most of the "compliance" discomfort issues.

[@MrJaycobsen]

how did that workout for Canyon?

[@tyler.london]

It's astoundingly similar to their 1994 C35 Elite mountain bike in terms of frame shape!!!!

[@bobbafett1971]

Looks like my bianchi rc quite a bit. Maybe give that frame and handlebar a second look?

[@LFMC1]

We're facing another scam in cycling marketing. Why all the alarm over this bike?! I don't remember the same circus about the Cérvelo S5. Also, the Chinese released these very same concepts years ago (even much more elaborated) and nobody cared about. This is pure mambo jambo for suckers!

[@wsbygt]

This frame keeps growing on me...

[@CycleXplorer]

Get the new Wahoo Ace breeze block on the front and see what happens to the aero 😂

[@catflapjones2677]

They should have taken the head tube and fork design to the logical conclusion; dual crown with the fork legs parallel / never joining each other and mounting the 'handlebar' to the top of the fork legs. You could have a very wide stance / tyre clearance, a laterally very stiff fork and a super narrow 'head tube'.

[@michaelroberts1420]

How aero is the human body when at work on a bike? Does any of the front of the bike try to direct the air around the body?

[@chrisko6439]

All the bikes I own/have owned combined didn't cost as much as this huge fugliness.

[@notalwaysright71]

You obviously need to buy more bikes. But I agree with your description 100%.

[@alejandroaznar3818]

Where can we find the tech document? Colnago Website?

[@GaborEID]

Yes, at the bottom of the product page.

[@alejandroaznar3818]

Got it, thanks!

[@AdamEwart]

People keep saying "Trek-esque", but I'm seeing Kestrel Airfoil in that "seat tube" area...

[@MrJob91]

A pen that works is not a pen is working

[@tiiimmmaaayyyy3616]

I'd wager that an additional 300-400 grams will make bugger all difference.

[@felixjackson2670]

After listening to your analysis I not only have great respect for Colnago ( although I always had!) but overcame my dislike and prejudice of modern ‘aero’, un-user friendly bike design….if bike design actually improves performance of its athletes,then that is what they are looking to achieve. My gripe has been the marketing of these products for the masses…

[@BMD8]

Can you do a video on the bmc teammachine r please?

[@Bicyclechris]

I am still riding and racing my Aerocoach wheels without issue. I take reviews from Hambini with a heavy grain of salt. :)

[@Hambini]

I think the faults in the hub were quite obvious.

[@jkotsche7035]

Hambini, have you completed the build of the Lightcarbon bike? Please review. Thanks

[@Hambini]

it's on patreon

[@jkotsche7035]

@@Hambini 😮‍💨

[@Michaelholds7769]

I appears the weight includes the handlebars. I checked the Trek Madone and their handlebar weight is 290g. Madone frame/fork is 1135+290 for the handlebars totals 1425. Colonago is 1415. But I might be wrong about the bars included in the weight.

[@mruedar]

It seems that the Bini boy can also see aero. Put that on Peak Torque’s list

[@samuel8590]

Any idea on the price of this thing? Have we now gone to 20K for a Road Aero Bike?

[@dfbdf3324]

Can you do one on the new DARE aero bike?

[@kolokowalsky772]

Actually Colnago informed, that there is dozens diffent lengths of seat posts available to choose from.

[@jQuiry]

Actual aerodynamics, nice. Nothing about the angle of the seatpost? Looks so far backward, the saddle tip is miles away from the bb center, not good...

[@MrJaycobsen]

The effective seat tube angle is actually steeper than the old bike at a set seat height.

[@TheBevo67]

i get that at the highest level of performance and competition - these hyper-engineered bikes MIGHT give a rider a small, tiny, little, insignificant edge. But for the average slightly overweight middle-aged accountant (or maybe lawyer?) that can afford such a bike its complete overkill. Just get an old steel or aluminum Allez and ride it at the 12MPH that will surely take you up to your VO2max. If you’re talking airflow and drag on a pedaled bicycle, you’re posing. I do love this channel for the engineering nerdiness tho. 😊

[@DanTuber]

Are all mechanical engineers experts in aerodynamics?

[@TheMASDrummer]

He didn't claim to be an expert

[@kekqq]

I predict that Pogi will lose some races because of mechanic issues!

[@charlestoast4051]

I suspect we'll only see this frame used on flattish stages. Next season should be interesting.

[@chokehanson1830]

The very minute I saw this monstrosity from Colnago I thought when that Hambini kid sees this he's going to literally spit!

[@Reanimator999]

You know, wouldn't it better if you just get a triathlon/TT bike frame?

[@simonbailey2151]

Cervelo S5 with this handlebar and a BSA bottom bracket?

[@Reanimator999]

@@simonbailey2151 It could be other triathlon frames too. But Yeah, that v-shaped handle bar and BSA bottom bracket.

[@craiggough3272]

Plain wing handle bars for aero

[@ernesto782]

Finally nothing so amazing. Would have been amazing to keep the same weight with this kind of aero. But here 400 grs which mean around 30% more weight, for little gain in aero. Not sure how it will make a difference

[@elliottd323]

350 grams at 50k an hour will have a near zero effect on speed vs aero and considering the power tadej puts out he is often at or near 50 kmh an hour even on the flats so to say 20 watts at 50kmh is a massive benefit at this level is an understatement.

[@ernesto782]

@elliottd323 But what about hill climb

[@MrJaycobsen]

@@ernesto782 they are going pretty fast up climbs too