Why RuneScape's Best Dungeon Got Deleted (OSRS)

[@foxernator]

Spent most of my days in this cave on main. Looks like it came straight out of a private server looking back on it. Weird to think there are now nostalgic days in OSRS.

[@liiillllliiilllliilllliii9461]

I’m one of the few young ppl who got into RuneScape I was 14 in 2018 i think I spent 6 months straight playing osrs def nostalgic from those times

[@bongandablitze]

@@liiillllliiilllliilllliii9461 your still 11 years to late

[@beg4mercy277]

Bro I’m 26 and still hop on every now and then just to remember the good old days when I first started playing in 4th grade

[@moe3120]

Broo, I had this exact same thought, at the time it was like ah nice new update, looking at it now, deff gives you a massive private sever feel

[@foxernator]

@@moe3120 It was fing boring doing the same tasks over and over. I maxed Melee doing slayer and spent my life in there. Now my main is like 200k from 99 and the variety compared to the variety days is insane!

[@bubbs4396]

If it isn't the cockroach cave with the 2x 5000 xp lamps, that drop rune scimitars for f2p players in 2010, then it is not the best dungeon. I'm sorry.

[@EverTruu]

Oh yess many hours were spent in the stronghold of safety.

[@brocowsci]

Dude ahhhhhhhhh

[@brocowsci]

I completely forgot about that shit yo, so many hours down there

[@Your_Daily_Scroll]

memories are flooding back holy shit

[@daltonhayhurst8501]

What?

[@0mfg0wnt]

Crazy that we’re looking back on nostalgic times in OSRS. Time flies.

[@ohblind]

I think about this a lot. Nostalgia based off of nostalgia

[@emilestockless1917]

Especially when wasting your life away on osrs lmfao

[@IncognitoGuerrilla]

at this point osrs is older than runescape was in 2007

[@gravity3268]

God, I'm getting old. Just had my 25th birthday last month and it seems like last week 😳😭🎂

[@0mfg0wnt]

@@gravity3268 Right I turn 25 in a month or so myself 😭

[@smalfable]

I remember coming back to osrs and wondering if I had gone insane when I couldn't find the same monsters in that cave!

[@Alex9ten]

lol it was all a fever dream

[@prabjotplays]

Lmao I had the same moment

[@PineyJustice]

I'd actually prefer if slayer masters assigned things from their own area, removes most of the flavor of the different slayer masters, get a task in morytania then have to trek over to al karid. Of course each slayer master would need to scale in level. That was always my biggest disappointment with slayer.

[@proteanalias]

Honestly this is such a good idea. I'm not sure if the logistics of it would make it really possible but it would be so cool to have to go to different masters for different high level tasks. I mean, konar being the only way to get hydra is the only thing like this I know of (granted I'm only 71 slayer so ya boi don't know too much) but it would be a way to be able to have value at every master rather than just Duradel, Konar, and Nieve (until you are 100 cb). Plus it just makes sense thematically. Like why would a dude in the tropics send you to kill some weird troll things on a largely frozen island in the north.

[@emsouemsou]

I had no idea it was this OP. Slayer is actually one of my least favorite skills in OSRS and I didn't spend too much time training the skill inside the cave or outside.

[@danieltran93]

it was a great dungeon; made pvming with people more enjoyable imo. i remember killing abby demons in that small area and people saying gz a lot when you announce you got a whip lmao

[@eskkartheaussie9496]

I’m so old I remember when the slayer skill was first released. I got 99 slayer when this cave was around. I love this game. Long live old school!

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Man I was so geeked for slayer when I first became a member back in middle school , I miss these rs times man

[@PozzaPizz]

@@drunkenmmamaster419 I remember getting hypes for colored outfits and snail helms. Ah fuck 2004 is almost 20 years away.

[@Lympthmode]

18 years on RuneScape, time really does fly. On a break, but still one of my favorites.

[@DoDaDaDaDaCaDa]

I'm 27 and I remember loggin in to RS on miniclip ✌We gettin old

[@spiritofnex]

Huh. I don't think I was active in osrs at this point in time. I was still playing rs3, and had no idea about any of this. I had no idea that the stronghold slayer dungeon was that massive before! Thanks for the amazing video my dude! Loved it!

[@lukemorris4065]

When i recently came back I was so confused at how small it is now

[@stalehuman7585]

@77z member

[@pfanzers]

Damn I remember this dungeon just barely. Was a noob then. I could kill gargs tho. I miss it.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

@@lukemorris4065 bruh same lmfao 😂😂😂😂

[@fattrolls8094]

We’ve bitched about Jagex since 99’ and we’ll continue to bitch. But they brought back our childhood game and have kept it alive for us to enjoy as adults. There’s merit to that.

[@tothepast]

they really missed an opportunity with adding in a GE next to the entrance of this cave

[@kyled00m]

".. people spent all their time doing the same tasks in the same cave .." Sounds like Castle Wars before Ancient Magicks came into existence. Ironically, I loved it beyond the mere nostalgia since items were so limited, even having high stats didn't give people and edge and even a single mid-level player could make a difference. The introduction of Ancient Magicks changed it up a bit and the freeze effect had a great negative impact but it still lasted for a while. Ice Burst and Ice Blitz weren't the worst but Ice Barrage really ruined the fun with its high freeze, high damage, and area of affect all working together-though not everyone had Ice Barrage on release so it had a few months before the fun chilled out completely.

[@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies]

That was in a time where the mentality of rs was very different too, looots of people played veeery casually. A lot of cwars players just outright left and never came back because they never expected to have a high enough magic level for barrage. If you didn't have barrage, you couldn't compete. That spell RUINED castle wars for most of its players. By the time I was high enough to barrage cwars was so dead that I couldn't find a single game on any world :p

[@Snezit1]

If you think about it they really never fixed the exploration for slayer since you are still just going into a cave but it has the exact monsters only then you kill close to 200 then getting another task and maybe going to a slightly retextured cave

[@jre5811]

The history behind Nieve caught me off guard, great vid

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you! :D

[@Mrinvaderman]

Pretty sure gargoyles didn't have their loot buff yet when they went in the cave, I remember them pretty much just dropping granite mauls

[@bigdude627]

I got so confused when I came back to runescape and my friends were talking about this. I thought they were talking about the old waterfall slayer dungeon in RS2 lol

[@JoshPillault]

Dude, I feel like I’ve commented this so much, but DAMN as someone who had no choice but to miss all of this, this is FASCINATING! I mentioned today while streaming that I knew nothing about the old Stronghold Slayer cave cause I never saw it but thought “it must not have been too much different than Catacombs right?” Damn this was broken 😂😂 great video man and also love the aspects like how the community is sensitive to power creep, et cetera, so funny to see how this unfolded. It was SO broken.

[@ColonelloRS]

Hahah that's awesome! Also ikr, I was pretty shocked with how broken it became, especially when they expanded it. Thanks for watching!

[@dillonbussard9576]

Not going to lie. When I got my Qp cape on Rs3 the lore was etched in my mind. The quests leading to Guthix dying were amazing. When I got my qp cape on osrs I breezed thru spamming space bar.

[@CatnamedMittens]

Spoiler alert

[@dusty_wings]

Spoilers?

[@dillonbussard9576]

@@CatnamedMittens sorry spoiler alert for a quest that came out with a world event about the gods dying.

[@LifeForAiur]

That's a damn shame then because quests like Sins of the Father, and A Kingdom Divided are really excellent quests. Having played both games and knowledgeable in the Lore for both games, I did not like the direction RS3 took post Rituals of the Mahjarrat (starting with The World Wakes). Having direct divine contact and intervention and having the character be the "chosen one" in a way feels derivative and derails the established story and lore. This is supposed to be a time of mortals held by the fragile balance imposed by the edicts of Guthix. The remnants of the past you discover provide enough mysticism and grandness while still grounding the story to the multitude of storylines affecting the races of Gielinor in their individual conquests, liberations, and schemes. That's my opinion though.

[@CatnamedMittens]

@@LifeForAiur it's also just illogical that there are 100,000s of chosen ones

[@johanjosueecheverriapineda4234]

I played on release and hell yeah i remember all of this, the nostalgia again strikes :v It had like 75%-80% of the slayer monsters... and i remember getting my first dfs there from the 2 iron dragons near the lava lol.

[@mynameisjoeeeeeee]

Bro me too lmao sold my vissy for 23m back at that point

[@makingtime73]

Fantastic video! I've been playing Runesecape since 2003 and I actually learned a lot from this one video :)

[@yehta7933]

Iv not played in quite a few years and I loved that cave made everything so convenient but I get why they would change it.

[@UnknownVir]

I think there are two main reasons slayer was people's favorite skill even when it was terrible and slow: people used to combat being the main way they interact with games; staggered reward/randomness leads to more of a dopamine response, it's gambling without needing to put much risk in.

[@blakebennett3987]

Yeah RuneScape is a lot of that Skinner box stuff. Grinds so long and so brainless that people literally do it on like 5 accounts at a tile because that’s goes little game is in this game. I really like the quests, the lore, and even a lot of the mechanics are really cool but exp rates are just too glacial in osrs for my 26 year old self to ever see most of that in osrs.

[@citricdemon]

I think RuneScape players may be borderline rеtаrdеd

[@Davemcfc]

I don't play anymore, but I really enjoy your content! This is bringing back memories of the ferocious dungeon in rs2. Smacking gargoyles with my trusty Bunyip

[@TheMilkDicing]

I would love to see a “history of pvp polls” video

[@G-bl8hj]

Asking about RuneScape lore is so broad though. I mean hundreds of races and species and areas to cover with so much detail

[@chuppy6938]

i finally subbed! not sure why it took so long, I've watched a million of ur vids

[@jackychen6261]

This dungeon was the best thing in the game. Ill always remember it because i got my draconic visage in there from an iron dragon on my ironman who was level 71 back in the day. No antifires and poking it with a leaf bladed sword. Good times… Also dont forget gargoyles only started to become profitable after the slayer monster buff in like 2017. Before that no slayer monster dropped alchables as they do now, gargoyles included.

[@alexanderlp8641]

Right at my lunch break… perfect timing! Awesome videos man, excited to watch this.

[@ColonelloRS]

Woo! Glad to hear that :D

[@Guilez18]

this is where i trainned to 99 slayer on my main , using cannon /blowpipe , back when blitzing your task wasnt a thing :)

[@treasuretrails]

I got 99 slayer in that cave, good memories....

[@dm1972]

I spent so much time slaying in this dung as a noob when osrs first released. Was sad to see it go. I get a huge hit of nostalgia just looking at it

[@Specxy]

I remember it getting pretty crowded as you say, especially at gargs/abby demons. I wouldn't necessarily say that nerfing the dungeon "made slayer more fun", I mean in the end you're still killing the same monster just in a different area lol. But it was definitely a needed change cus of the crowding

[@MrDubs]

I've spent a lot of time with Nieve, and never have I ever realized she had a hook for a hand.

[@Xinderkan]

I've come back to the game recently and was extremely confused by the changed cave

[@wetkneehouston6293]

I remember coming back to runescape since 07 and watching a guide for slayer, went in the cave and was so confused as everything was different to the video I was watching 😕

[@RobinvanArkel97]

I haven’t played for about 2 years but tried to keep kinda up-to-date on the game. However, I didn’t even know the slayer cave got removed… lmao

[@24zawisza]

Good old days of the massive slayer dungeon. Rest in peace my childhood friend

[@FloTheUIM]

Ah the nostalgia! Slayer will always be the best skill! I liked this slice of OSRS history! Awesome vid!

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you! :D

[@FloTheUIM]

@@ColonelloRS No u

[@core36]

tbh, i think a detailed list of all tabs and it's assigned resources should be a standard in every webbrowser, like a little taskmanager for webbrowser tabs. a tabmanager. it is the one single reason i would consider using opera gx.

[@mansensankari]

I remember doing partner slayer here with my buddy. Good times, but I'm glad they reworked the slayer caves. It just felt weird to have all of these creatures in the same cave., So many cannons...

[@ColonelloRS]

Very true, seeing icefiends right next to abyssal demons was really odd.

[@p0larz0mbies]

I was there for that cave and rememeber the day of Diverse Dungeons update. That update was definietely needed since the original dungeon was way too overpowered.

[@RitzStarr]

The most unbelievable part of this video is that Colonello thought anyone enjoyed slayer. It was and still is the absolute worst designed skill.

[@RovingElves]

Love the videos! I was wondering have you ever thought of posting your videos in a podcast format to like Spotify or Apple Podcasts? That way your audience can listen to your videos while driving or working. Originally I asked the same question to rswillmissit but thought your content would be great as a podcast as well.

[@ColonelloRS]

Interesting idea! I’ll definitely look into it :)

[@zannor9365]

What makes the slayer helmet "elusive"?

[@SimplyBelieve1]

Great video! Always love learning something new.

[@gravity3268]

God i remember when Obor came out, I got the 2h maul or whatever it's called on my 2nd key, sold for about 28M (i don't remember if this was before the GE, I think it might have been in, or atleast the trading post WHICH I MISS!) I was probably one of the first 20-50 to get the item. I almost wanted to hang onto it for a day to make more money, but it crashed so damn quick once the youtubers and pvpers were done 0 day testing

[@AftermathRV]

5:00 Hey, i actually got a questcape and know SOME of the lore! specifically the morytania and some of hte kourend lore, whats interresting gets read, and moritania is insane.

[@ivan_tv6653]

Gotta say, the subscribe plug was 10/10. I subscribed, but where are my slayer points?

[@seanmaull3599]

I've seen so many of your videos on runescape, never even played the game or want to, but damn do you tell good stories about runescape 😂

[@FlagArmadaProductions]

whats location at 1:42?

[@angreedarmor1396]

I think its the Pit of Havva

[@fish3977]

I like how RS3 did their slayer cave in that it didnt have all the tasks making it way smaller and you couldnt cannon in there so it only really offered some ease of competition / better access to annoyingly placed monsters.

[@DarkStrife]

I just used 100 points to block that task Edit: glad you liked it.

[@seancorrigan_]

I started osrs in 2019 and had absolutely no idea this abomination existed. Well done video.

[@BattleGh0stz]

Amazing video with top level planning, love the content!

[@ColonelloRS]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Rixxan1]

Wow completely forgot Slayer helm was locked behind a quest called Smoking Kills that brought me back

[@styxzero1675]

Then they went on and did the same thing in Zeah but this time with a multiarea so you could barrage every creature, far surpassing nieves cave in terms of powercreep bringing along exp/h rates for slayer never before seen almost rivaling those of rs3. Yet nieves cave was the problem I guess... just jagex logic. And the community seem fine with Zeah cave for some reason.

[@RBender111]

13:00 is a good point even today. Slayer is "everyones favourite skill" but everyone complains if they dont get a burst or cannon task or a specific monster they can kill for drops. It always seemed to me to be one of those things that everyone says they love it because theyre supposed to say they love it or you get picked on(see also: beer) but they actually think its boring and grindy just like everything else.

[@bunnygirl8]

i'll be honest i've never met anyone who actually enjoys slayer, it's most people's least favourite skill in my experience

[@Lychee_Witch]

I have never heard of this. What a great and interesting video Collonello, great job!

[@chrislarue1389]

My one rare drop so far has been a smouldering stone from a hellhound so you included it by purpose :)

[@proteanalias]

I played only a little when the cave was op and had only used it a handful of times before "quitting rs" and when I came back I just assumed I had misremembered the cave.

[@studling1519]

Great video but why am I getting 2 ads every 90 seconds?? Absurd frequency of ads

[@JordanJiujitsu]

Something that I think should be noted is how incredible that early content was with reused assets.

[@OfficalCali]

One way osrs could do better with the game balance is when a new update Is introduced it should include some content from unrelated skills, mini games, and quality of life. That makes it so that old content does not get lost in time and includes players that wouldn’t of participated. Example: if the new runecrafting mini game included an item in the reward shop that can enhance a melee weapons speed by 1 game tick or an item that increases clue-scroll drop rate but lowers chances for all other drops. Even have items in the runecrafting reward shop that can be used for other mini games like soul wars or pest control.

[@ColonelloRS]

True! I think more shortcuts that don't use agility would be great as well. Like maybe a dungeon where theres a "redwood tree root" in the way, and you need 90 wc to access that section.

[@OfficalCali]

@@ColonelloRS yesss that’s a great idea! You have a lot of osrs mods paying attention to your videos. You should make a video with a list of different ideas from yourself and the viewers. I’m sure it’ll spark some interest at jagex, they are definitely running out of useful ideas.

[@alecwhite-cheshire2942]

Great content! Love the effort you put into all your videos it truly shows! Keep it up

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you so much!!

[@sagacious03]

Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@sashaa1960]

It was convenient but made a lot of surrounding content, and other dungeons obsolete.

[@slashingjw1251]

Im pretty sure the gargoyles had a shit drop table when they first came to nieves cave(and when the cannon poll was)

[@baddragonite]

If it were me I'd bring it back as a holiday event for like a weekend a year or something. You could call it the Caveday celebration

[@jaret2962]

Damnn IRL Neive is hot, I see you Mod Ash

[@Qardo]

Know what I think? If they kept the code to the caves. They should use the cave for Special Events. Much like how they do their Trailblazer Event and others. Maybe rejigger the layout a bit, pretty it up, and add in maybe some Epic Event Slayer Only Boss. To which need to jump through a billion hoops to even look at. Not kill. That will be another billion hoops. Boom! Not only give some old school feeling back into the game but also have a fun area to use for special events once or twice a year. Maybe put in different monsters each go around or even just Event Only monsters. Or the monsters are the Dev Team themselves. Who have been really bad and want to destroy the RuneScape world. Only the Player can stop them!! Ain't the first time RuneScape had some very Meta and Fourth Wall Breaking moments.

[@xx3070]

6:35 Ah yes hellhounds, in which the clip that is shown of drops are things that they didn't drop at that time.

[@azazeldeath]

It's so sad to see how much love jagex gives osrs compared to rs3 which is just "how can we bleed more money out of players" he'll idr the last poll we had. Slayer is basically unchanged in forever for us just new bosses and monsters really

[@YoungBreathless]

ay whats the song at 8:12 ?

[@PkPvre]

13:04 it started to become too much like real life.

[@mvhsguys]

Got 99 slay in the old slayer cave. Would spend literal months never leaving the area except for supplies. Rip Nieves atrocity

[@alsoyes3287]

It was a needed change but they should've designed a more interesting replacement cave. It's as barren and generic as a cave gets. They managed to do it right with Chasm of Fire but dropped the ball on the remaining stronghold dungeon

[@dialga236]

this isnt the top ten thighs in runescape wtf

[@ColonelloRS]

LMAOOO

[@captainhindsight6994]

wise old man still beating everyone in that category

[@SenpaiStories]

i started playing recently again after a few years, this is how i found out the best slay dungeon was... deleted?...

[@MrSimpsondennis]

I still think it's funny how OSRS players call Slayer a "real skill", but Dungeoneering is "just a minigame that combines all other skills", whereas Dungeoneering atleast still includes puzzles. (similar to how CoX works and stuff.)

[@dustinewing7974]

I subscribed and completed my task but didn't get any slayer points can you please fix this bug

[@311kristopher]

sounds better 💁‍♂️ i have ADD so i will grind one skill for days or weeks then switch randomly.. would have been perfect to just grind an then switch when burned out on slayer

[@doooggg4383]

Not everything was possible to kill with a Cannon, the aby demon area was Close to a Lake,and when u tryd to set Ur Cannon there you would got a mssg that the floor is to soft for putting Ur cannon there, great old times

[@typerightseesight]

was this removed before rs3 came out?

[@johnweaver6619]

Broo, I remember having to use "the trading post" before they put the g e back in game.

[@Camelotsmoon]

Interesting, I didn't know they deleted the dungeon. tbf I did consider it a private server area, but I did spend a hell of a lot of time there lol.

[@shinydmike8490]

Man I really miss Nieves dungeon :/ I almost wonder if that’s why jagex killed her off. So she could die a hero, right along side our favorite dungeon. Rip nieve and her lair

[@Sedgehun]

10:25 Reach out. Mod Reach. Get it?

[@Feast_]

I was killing Guards for Medium clues while watching this, first step on the one that dropped was to talk to Nieve Coincidence? I think not

[@xhuzza5059]

Originally Gargoyles didn't have a good droptable. The poll for that was poll 47.

[@oplkfdhgk]

3:47 did you photoshop those upvotes or did you do the old inspect element trick? 😛

[@ColonelloRS]

Yup, inspect element haha

[@oplkfdhgk]

@@ColonelloRS awesome! 😃👍

[@kirimiddo1780]

Not only do quest cape people not know lore neither did the OS devs lmao. RS actually has a good story that the devs severely messed up when DS2 came out. (Dragonkin shouldn't be involved until after the "while Guthix Sleeps quest" And the stone of Jas is taken by a Mahajarrat "forgot his name")

[@DaltonWarner-m8m]

Can Confirm, was 75 percent of the tasks. Sometimes the new cave or the cave now seems odd to me.

[@Veganphobic]

I didnt know it was deleted If i didnt come back as a skiller I'd still be looking for it

[@DaveKoehler1992]

Last time I trained slayer i came here When was it deleted?

[@noreez2889]

"But first I gotta pay my bills!" Great Segway into an advertisement 😂

[@ColonelloRS]

Hahah thank you!

[@tcbobb.8782]

Aight ngl you sold me on Opera def gunna give this a download bc chrome really do be just owning my cpu at this point.

[@ColonelloRS]

Glad to hear that! I think you'll really enjoy Opera :)

[@jacobott3382]

Stop using google chrome Jesus Christ

[@oatmongen4263]

To be fair, if it is as big as two towns and everything in between, chances are that each task is not really that close to the bank.

[@twistednipzz]

Man, I feel old. I actually played osrs when this happened lol

[@Jimbukkake]

Im confused... the cave is still there isn't it ?

[@LovelySoftSnow]

Wait that dungeon is gone?