Withdraw Cash from ATM - Craps Betting Strategy

[@tyronepowers76]

To all those pointing out the bar 12 miss and the progression math error, remember Jeremy is the dealer AND player in these scenarios and he does the whole video in one take. It isn’t exactly walking and chewing gum. Give the guy a break.

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for the support! - I can't believe I didn't catch in edit to make a note either.

[@mikelkeith2115]

@@ColorUp Craps is a exciting game Jeremy LOL , even when play with fake checks at that higher limit ,it can make you be forgetful about simple things like that 12, because you want to win so bad. Your boy Ohio MikeI

[@davidurban3357]

Sorry man, I can excuse the math error on the progression, but paying the 12 on the come out is an egregious error.

[@rgolab3174]

​@@ColorUp Love your videos, but you also didn't catch in edit that 50% of $400 is $200 so the total is $600 so 50% of of $450 has to be more than $600, so it's $675 not $575. Anyways, love your videos, learned to play craps from your videos and now I love the game. Thanks for all you do!

[@KYMOUNTAIN]

Half of 450 is 225 equals 675!

[@ColorUp]

What did I say? Mistake? Ha

[@alexandramcgraw3227]

Lots of pressure Glad I’m not a dealer

[@ColorUp]

I respect the heck out of good dealers

[@Jerhunter44]

Dealing isn’t too bad once you’re into the flow of it and have some past experience. But with strategies like this one, especially if the table is full, it can certainly be taxing. Always nice when you can tell the players are cool with you taking a little bit longer to ensure accuracy.

[@JIMSZILVA]

Color Up I kept waiting for you to say”wait a minute...that can’t be right”, but then you kept right on going! You had the perfect dramatic pause, but to no avail lol. Mad props Jeremy for putting yourself out there every week. I couldn’t do what you do. You’re allowed to make a math mistake on the fly once every 50 episodes, right?!?

[@isaiahm6398]

I thought 12 was a wash. How come it got paid?

[@Official203]

Don’t Worry I was wondering the same

[@ColorUp]

Just a mistake...

[@chriswiseman5985]

Color Up wish my dealers made that mistake when I’m betting the DP big!!

[@ColorUp]

That’s why casinos wouldn’t hire schmuck like me ha

[@isaiahm6398]

Lol it’s all good. I’m new to craps, was just trying to understand whether or not it was a paid roll.

[@sarry419]

The casino never buys chips from a player; most of the time no. Last time I was in Vegas, I played Mississippi Stud and cleaned out the dealer's rack of reds from a couple of wins, (Paid color for color). Instead of the dealer calling for more reds, they asked me if I would color up to replenish reds in the rack. A nice feeling when that happened.

[@ColorUp]

That is cool!

[@sarry419]

@@ColorUp Yeah dealer had the choice to color up the player that just tipped 60 from a 20 dollar dealer play; or stop the game and fill out paperwork. decisions decisions

[@rolln7s]

I would do this but lower the bank roll to $300. Start with 40 on the don't and then single unit place bet on the numbers and field.

[@stevesullivan9791]

my thought exactly, except i adjusted it for a $10 table. 75 on dont, 64 across and 10 field. the downside of course is a hot shooter pounding out point after point. i had my don't pass up to 575 at one point trying to recover. on my app of course, not live :)

[@breakingcraps]

Nice video as always CU. Yea a couple of people have pointed out about the Bar 12 on the Don't Pass would have made a big difference in the final result. This system is actually not that bad. Playing like a D'Alembert System with the Don't Pass. You can actually start this as low as $20 DP and go $20, $30, $40 (or $45) etc. And play the rest of the bets just like a real Iron Cross, increasing the $6 and $8 Place Bets as you go up on the Don't Pass bet. For those with a realistic bankroll. And you can reset back down to the lowest DP bet as soon as you have recouped all your winnings from the previous high.

[@michaelvalenti7127]

Let me just grab 3k real quick for a $10 table...lol if only I was a high roller.

[@misterchubbikins]

I mean, if you only make it out to a casino once every couple of years this is solid. Just don't blow try it night one 😆

[@MrNoah11992]

I tested this and really enjoyed it, really gets the blood flowing. Tried as described with 3000 buy in, got down to a few hundred left and then swung back, finished $4,500+. Also tried to lower the amounts by half, $1500 buy in, lost all my money, went to sleep.

[@GeorgeFromCy]

I do see the merit of this strategy but also I can see where it could be improved. After a few score hits every collection could bump up the place bet which is the point and regressing place bets exposure on the rest of the numbers thus increasing potential profit margin on the 7 but also limiting loss margin on the point hit. Say point is a 4 you can easily bump up from 30 to $100 to hedge it. Once you are there stop regressing and continue collecting.

[@shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965]

Better to just play the dark side with the odds. Alot of people try to outsmart the game and there simply is no better way to play 😆 I know I say it alot but its true. The other problem is its boaring. Betting the same $5 dont pass followed by the same $30 odds bet. Every time no matter what point. 6's and 8's pay the most! U love when they crap out on 6 and 8 hehehe

[@ReaverLordTonus]

I would be an absolute nervous wreak if I had that much money on the line. I tend to run into cold craps tables often where a don't strategy would have done some good but I always fear the day I try one it will be the one where we actually get some decent shooters. Incidental if I did have the balls to try this, I would actually press the place bets if the points are being hit, starting with the 6 and 8 since the field bet is lost when those hit, then the 5.

[@Adambikesrochester]

I play the dark side regularly and really prefer the slower grind. Trust me, the amount of people that hit 3 or more points in a row is RARE. Pop a lay bet on the come out roll so when a 7 pops you don't have to worry. Then pull it down after the point's established

[@masterslacker]

@@Adambikesrochester I agree 3 points is super rare. Even if I'm having a longish roll(15+) I only hit at most 2 points.

[@LanceOBleness]

@@Adambikesrochester Yes, a lay bet on the 4 and 10 that offsets the don't bet. play the yo to offset the don't as well for insurance.

[@Adambikesrochester]

@@LanceOBleness I usually forgo a yo bet unless I'm on the higher amounts of my progression

[@rodneythompson1861]

This is the best ever!!! I always play the dark side. But you and Cody gave me a better way to play the dark side. I place the don't come bets but this is better. I will be a thousandnaire in no time. Thanks for the best game plan.

[@ColorUp]

good luck

[@guibox3]

Surprisingly, with a few moderations, this has worked much better for me than all the other techniques I have learned on here. I would scale it all back ratio wise with a lower bankroll though if I were trying it live

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for the feedback, can you share your modifications?

[@guibox3]

Color Up If I have lost my bet a few times and then am up to $450 or $675, I go back down to $200 when I finally win instead of taking only 50% off the bet. Also when you are putting that high of a Don’t Pass bet, will not recoup much with your place bets of $30. The whole purpose of putting $200 in place bets and field bets is to compensate for your $200. If your Don’t Pass bet is up to $650, they don’t mean much anymore. Your only hope is to hit a 7. So in the meanwhile, I up my 6 and 8 bets to get something more when they hit and take your field bet away

[@guidosarducci166]

@@guibox3 I kind of like this idea. I think I might experiment with removing the field and upping the 6 and 8 by a unit. The field really does seem like a leak in this system, but I think the idea with it (and all "iron cross" type strats that employ the field) is to get action on every roll. Still, Field is one of the worst bets on the table. I'm curious about dropping all the way back to step 1 on the don't pass win. I haven't had time to really think through the math, but on the surface, I think it might be leaving money on the table. That being said, it might be a more prudent strategy when you're dealing with a small bankroll like the $3000 in this video. I'll play around with that and see if it helps.

[@edarmstrong5955]

This method is not for me but it was fun to watch. I know you played $25 in the field for convenience sake but that extra $5 won when the 6 or 8 shows and field goes down, can really throw a wrench in the works and mess with the long term math. However, the horn numbers more than made up for it in your example. Good to see another video... Keep 'em coming!

[@hulenbryant5637]

Ed Armstrong I’m the same way with field. I usually play $15 in the field so I’m not missing out so much on the 6/8 hits, but still playing all the numbers.

[@roadrunner381]

No. One rule when betting the dont, when a shooter knocks your bet down your done with him, and wait for the next shooter, why, you say, because that shooter is the one that can bust you, you DO NOT try and get even or beat a shooter that's making pass line no.s,,, I don't like this betting stategy, because of the come out 7, that 7 or 11 can roll 4,5,6,7 times in a row, and crush you with this raising your bet by half, no thank you, you can keep this one, I'd rather just lay the against the 5or 9 and when I get my money back on my place bet numbers, pull down the lay bet, because it served it's purpose at that point, then start pressing,,still appreciate your videos, keep up the good work, good luck everyone, hope you find a monster roll!!

[@johnhurter6773]

Played a slightly modified version of this the last two days and ended up +$3400. Started with $100 on the don’t and went 96 across after the come out with 10 in the field and added a $10 come bet. When it traveled I only took $10 odds on any number, which ended up paying for themselves as they hit giving me basically a free bet on each number. Always had a come bet to cover the field in the event of a 7 and the working come bets paid 22-30 off and on throughout the duration of the roll. Had a couple sweaty moments when my don’t bet worked its way up to $750, but eventually the 7 came long with a couple crap come outs working the bet down to the original base. Real money is made as you come back down through the progression. Every now and then I would sprinkle in a come out yo or some hard ways to hedge.

[@ColorUp]

Nice!

[@ThatBeardedVeteran]

I would like to see this with a more "realistic" bankroll for us low rollers. Maybe with$300 on a $5 table?

[@matteframe]

I don't think this strategy works at that bankroll.. Or you loss REALLY quickly if at all unlucky. I think you need at least 1500 to play this with $5 units, especially with the Martingaling. And the place bets would be kind of a pain because of the odds. I Good question tho...

[@jonathangerac2820]

You should be able to half it and go to something like $100 DP and $96 across and then I would do a $4 horn bet if you wanted to keep the cross equal to your DP

[@guidosarducci166]

Yeah, this system really doesn't work at any bet level with a small bankroll. Even if you scaled it down to $5/$6 place with a $32 Don't to start I wouldn't start with less than $1000. Just my opinion. Though it's an interesting experiment I will endeavor to scale it down to that and see if I can make it work!

[@Joseph_Tacos]

My Dice Advice: Put a 3rd wall up so your dice dont roll off the table every video. I get that it happens in real life, but it impedes the flow of your videos. Other than that, keep up the good work!

[@ColorUp]

Okay thanks

[@mike000395]

How about investing a $10 C/E instead of the field? Win 30 on C, or 70 on eleven. Keep more on 5,6,8, win less on the 4,9, or 10. I saw a similar strategy on this channel that used a c/e instead of the field, so 🎉

[@jamesniesuchouski9373]

I like this strategy! Obviously the risk is on the come out rolls and point after but if you can weather the storm on first roll and point... it’s consistent collecting. I might do this in a month on my trip to Mohegan BUT employ using field wins to cover 4,9,10 then collect and if it’s a hot roll... press 5,6,8... might make sense to hedge come out with any 7 to cover a little bit. I also don’t see myself playing with 3000 but might throw down 300 lol

[@LanceOBleness]

Don't play this strategy unless you hedge the come out roll with a yo bet and laying a number or two like the 4 and 10. I have experience. lol

[@angelquiles2157]

Being on the east coast, i like that this strategy can still work on a $25 table as well

[@guibox3]

If you are down $600 and you win your Don't Pass bet of $575, I'd be going back to $200, not back to $450. Cut your losses and start again with a small profit

[@renocool1558]

Maybe start hedging by placing/pressing the point after hitting a few numbers and no martingale on the dont

[@TaxPhd100]

Nice video. However, the problem with this and every other strategy where one bet or set of bets is hedged with another bet or set of bets, is that every single bet is still an independent event. There is no difference in probability and house edge when playing this strategy, versus placing every bet sequentially one at a time. None. So, what does that mean? The place/buy bets still carry the exact same house edge as they always have. Same with the field and don’t pass bets. The house edge is unchanged. Field bet is for suckers, as the house edge is too high. Always has been. Guess what? It’s still too high when you place a field bet as part of a strategy. Field bet should NEVER be placed, unless you just like giving money to the casino. You can’t do better than playing the don’t, with odds. In the long run, it’s impossible to better. Playing $200 on the don’t, with no odds, on a $10 table is foolish. Minimum bet on the don’t with max odds is a much better play. Always.

[@TaxPhd100]

Blue collar sports, Craps millionaire? No. But I do have a very good understanding of probability. 😉

[@randy5248]

@Blue collar sports You're missing his point. You're not gonna beat the house with any system, especially one that includes a field bet.

[@randy5248]

Personally I've never liked laying odds on the DP. I know theoretically it reduces HA, but after avoiding 7/11 odds are in my favor, so why risk more for true odds?

[@guidosarducci166]

First, we know. There is, literally, NO system that has a long term +EV in craps. None. If you want a +EV proposition in a casino, get a job dealing. The different strategies have different strategies. Some are designed to keep you playing for a long time (the "get blatto for the minimum amount" systems), and some are designed to hit quick and get out (the "fire and maneuver" systems). This is one of the latter systems. Can you get rekt? Sure! Can you get rich? Sure, if you have the wherewithal to walk away and never come back once you've robbed that bank! Your specific gripe about the field bet is valid. I'm not sure why that's there in this strategy, unless the motivation is to generate some action on every roll. I feel like you to, that it's a leak in this system. Clearly, if you're trying to play to minimize the odds, there's a specific way to play. That's not the spirit of this series, and the OP has made that clear on many occasions. He is given systems from the viewers that he vets in real time here.

[@CryptoBabyYoda]

Scott Butterfield exactly!!!👍 I’m new and haven’t played at a real table yet and that’s the conclusion I’ve come to, the don’t with max odds.....

[@alcasino7487]

The Withdraw Cash from ATM video on June 20, 2019. There is no sense of playing that field bet at all. Leaving way too much money on the table when a NON field number rolls and getting fleeced your real return. Way to hard to make the real money, bad hedge bet. Great videos keep up the great work!! Thanks Al

[@ryanvanderheyden3324]

Couple of mistakes The dont pass bar for 12 The 450 is 675 bet not 575 Dont like this strategy but thanks for the video

[@ColorUp]

thanks for feedback

[@michaelbailey995]

I can see using this strategy on a cold table, but you have to adjust your strategy according to how the table is going. You are forcing the dark side when the table is hot and losing your shirt. You should put in the dark side bet and only use this for the 4 or 10, maybe the 5 or 9 if you want to risk it. I would not keep $300 dollars on the No Pass for a 6 or 8 that is just asking for trouble. Remember you can always take down your Dont pass bet, and if a 5,6,8.9 comes up, you can pull the Dont pass bet or decrease the bet a bit to mitigate a big loss and play place bets if you feel the shooter is going to hit some numbers. flexibility is the key to survival on the tables, especially with random rollers.

[@guidosarducci166]

I disagree. Yes, the chances are bigger of hitting the point before the Don't, but at any level other than $200 on the Don't it's still +EV to leave the Don't out there (it's slightly -EV at the first level, but even that serves a bigger purpose later in the game).

[@brizzlex1919]

You should never pull your don't bet after a point is established you have the edge.

[@markjpad]

That 5 dollar difference in the field though is very impactful in roi. Especially if you 7 immediately, you are down 5 instead of even.

[@thedude5599]

At 4:34 you should take all your place bet down. Lock in that 200 profit and start playing the don't come. I could never figure out why people do not play both sides in the same roll. Taking your inside bets down is like winning 200 $ because that is what is up there. Take that 200 and start putting 5 on the DC and Lay the Odds to max. Playing both sides in the same roll is how to win in craps.

[@ColorUp]

Ok, but it is easier to know what to do after seeing the dice results:)

[@thedude5599]

@@ColorUp Not true at all. I always play the iron cross for a few rolls then I switch to the DC. I always play both sides on the same roll, eventually the seven is going to come so why keep my place bets up..I try to squeeze three or four rolls on my place bets then switch to the DC. I parlay my winnings to the dark side. If I have three hundred on my place bets and take them down before a seven is rolled I win 300 basically. Playing both sides in the same roll is the way to win in craps simple as that !!!

[@jjfattz]

Your board says the 12 is a push, I'm confused why you had the don't get paid on the come out 12. Also, you went from $450 to $575, it should've been $675 ($450+$225). Good video though, thanks for sharing.

[@ColorUp]

Just mistakes, making these videos not as easy as it may look

[@vegasvato55]

I like to start with a minimum bet on the don't side and wait for a point. Once a point is establish i wil place odds to double the bet return and After the come out i like to take odds on the don't Pass, place 6 & 8 at twice the Minimum Bet and wait for a hit. At this point i have three bets covering 6, 7, & 8 which are the three most common numbers rolled at the table, and even 7 doesn't hurt me... If i get a hit, i buy a five at twice the minimum, and then anything after that is going to be a field bet at 1/2 the units as the Bank. This insures that if i loose a field bet i win twice that amount from the bank. and now i have 4 &1/2 bets covering every single possible number that can hit on any roll. and even if the roll is short i make a profit

[@ColorUp]

Thanks for sharing how you like to play

[@724riff]

i really like this , a hair rich for me if i take a 1k to play on . but at around 10 minute mark you owed 450 plus 225 was 675 and put down 575 which you won back anyways i believe . nice system im gonna have to remmeber the names of theese just to remember the ones i like thank you

[@baileydouberley8365]

Maybe you can add a collect press to this strategy as well

[@miguelfelix8266]

On the come out roll you should hedge the 11. And once point is established you should hedge on the hard ways of that point. Obviously if it’s 5 or 9 you can. Good video though.

[@ColorUp]

Should hedge the 11? or you would recommend?

[@USArmyTo]

Can't get paid on the 12 on the Come Out DP. 2/3 gets paid, 12 pushes

[@ColorUp]

that is correct, thanks

[@uobscdarkside732]

Nice $180 tip to the bank at the end :D love these videos very entertaining don't think I would play this strategy even with someone else's money

[@tyronepowers76]

Great job on this video, that was a fun roll. Really shows the volatility that can happen. For a minute there I thought you would bust the bankroll for sure.

[@ColorUp]

Ha, I thought for sure I wouldn’t dig out

[@georgesockett3316]

that field bet should really be 20 ..it makes 200 even plus you make 10 each time a 6 or 8 rolls rather than 5

[@lindafoxwood78]

Good job on the video! I have seen someone do this before and we thought he was crazy - but he kept winning and winning. The fun part is people tried to copy him, but did not put the DON'T part - they lost their shirt; meaning they put 180 across and left them there. Even the Don't guy was laughing. The best way to play if you have never played Craps in your life or you just want to win and don't want to think about the game that much? Watch the table for a few minutes and see if there is one guy that is really mad and keeps losing - THEN - just bet the opposite of the Mad guy. I won $2000 in 20 minutes just reverse ghosting this guy once. Only reason it worked for me was he was a high roller and betting $120 on everything. :)

[@brizzlex1919]

🤣

[@kcunha111988]

What happened at 12:00 and paying the bar 12?

[@ColorUp]

Mistake?

[@SkillandLuckCRAPS]

Big Mistake

[@rayhjr72]

You know its fake chips ...right? not a "Big Mistake"

[@SkillandLuckCRAPS]

Raymond Kapala I could say something that could make it look like I’m mean, or a jerk. but I’ll take the high ground. That was a rookie mistake. We know he is not a dealer, and never claimed to be. Multitasking for a video can be a challenge. Mistakes will be made. That said, there are different degrees of mistakes this one should have easily been caught in editing, and production. He normally would put a writing disclaimer where the mistake was made, and everyone would have just had a small laugh, and let it slide. He didn’t do that. So everyone thinks he didn’t catch it, and are trying to help him out by bringing it to his attention.

[@kcunha111988]

@@rayhjr72 if you are going for authenticity of the strategy, then yeah, paying a bar 12 is a pretty big mistake. Of course nobody gained financially.

[@Greenday.colorupclub]

Good strategy but bank roll would scare most people. Could start with 35 on the DP and reduce each box bet accordingly. Then if/when you throw a natural win stack and double the box bets. Free hedge. With that said,when playing the DP you should never lift a natural win 2/3. Why would you refuse a 1:1 payout before setting a point only to place odds at 4:6 or 1:2 after the point is set. If you don't like the number most casinos will let you remove your DP anyway. It's a game of numbers so always play for Maximum win at minimum risk.same goes for DC. The dealers will always prompt odds or pressure on your bets after a win but will never ask you do you want to stack a natural win on a DC bet . Play your own game don't let somebody else play it for you.

[@rickhixenbaugh]

fran taaffe I’d love for you to tweak the original strategy as you describe and put it into simple terms (for simple folks like me 😉). I think what you’d have is something viable for most to give a live run at the casino. Thanks in advance.

[@Greenday.colorupclub]

@@rickhixenbaugh Sure, No problem. I'll get back to you. Can I get an email I can use to forward by strategy. Have it done step by step

[@blah301]

You paid yourself in the Don’t when a 12 rolled...

[@ColorUp]

Thanks, I missed it

[@scottieb483]

Go to winstar okc next meet and greet !! There will be way more then 15 or 16 people

[@ColorUp]

That would be cool

[@guidosarducci166]

That would be, but if I recall they juice you $1 every come out roll, don't they? That's kind of a buzzkill (though at this betting level not too much of a hole in the game).

[@brizzlex1919]

Great video I enjoyed the contrast of this strategy compared to most the others.

[@LanceOBleness]

Should be called the "lose 3k quick" system. nicely done video!

[@JIMSZILVA]

Lance O'Bleness or the “make $900 quick” system...

[@guidosarducci166]

Yeah, this is definitely a "something's going to happen quickly" kind of system.

[@LanceOBleness]

@@JIMSZILVA I tried a similar system that hit 11 sevens or elevens in a row on the come out. I stand by my "lose 3k quick" system statement. Of course you can get lucky once in a while. Pure crap shoot, pun intended

[@midnightmadness6676]

@@JIMSZILVA it wasnt really $900 due to errors. But still a nice $500 profit for this short video. It doesn't pan out in the long run. I tested it against 400 plus rolls and lost over $4000

[@JIMSZILVA]

Mike Green Nothing is ever going to work in the long run because it’s a negative expectation game. Just so you know, I wasn’t defending this strategy. You always hope luck’s gonna be on your side. That’s the fun in gambling. And if you have an entertainment budget, and stick to it, the days you get lucky are really fun. The days you get wiped out...not so fun. lol

[@javierbenavides4662]

Holy bankroll Batman

[@trickshotbros6765]

I’d try this, thanks for the vid. Always fun to watch.

[@jon-tabbypiper6554]

I really enjoy ATM strategies. However, when you hit the 5,6, or 8 you use that quarter to go back on the field. Also this would work better if he would place the point for enough to pay the loss on the dont and then place the rest as usual. Also you dont win on crap12

[@Bigdude13000]

The field bet when u got all the numbers covered is just crazy..U only collecting 10 bucks from all those hits when you should’ve been collecting the full 35 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jimcrackorn]

The infomercial was also outstanding.. thats the way is should be!!! Hopefully the tribal guys can catch up at some point.

[@garthbarcey8826]

Bad system!! The house has a advantage on a every bet!! You will loose on this system. Bog time

[@williamhoudersheldt7076]

What is the advantage/disadvantage of converting the 4&10 to a "buy" bet, instead of leaving them "place" bets? At the end of the video, when you took down the bets, you put them in the house money instead of your rack. Was that money added into your total?

[@ColorUp]

Buy bet pays more than a place bet, other than that they function basically the same. Buy the 4/10 whenever you can.As far as mistake at end, I'm not sure if I calculated that into total

[@knuteboy3778]

Like all craps strategies, this works great until it doesn't. Just now I was practicing this, and I rolled six straight combinations of either a 7 or 11 on the come out and it wiped out my bankroll because I would diligently increase the Don'tPass bet by 50%. Now in real life I'm certain I would hedge or something, but it just goes to show no strategy is immune to getting kicked in the teeth.

[@ColorUp]

the dice gods decide if you win or lose

[@midnightmadness6676]

I re ran your video and did the math for you. You actually would have finished with $3566 for a $566 profit. Still a good strategy. It won $111 dollars more than my 'Pulse' Strategy that will be on the 'Let it Roll' channel soon. Of course that is because of the crap numbers and short amount of throws. The pulse will not require this large of a bankroll either. Overall this Darkside Atm is a good system and as always your video is top notch. Keep up the good work and thanks for what you do!

[@midnightmadness6676]

Ok I'm not so sure I care for this one now, I ran it against 3 of the 36 roll challenges I had recorded and after the first 3 challenges, I'm already down $2457.00

[@midnightmadness6676]

Ok I went thru the first 4 36 roll challenges and think I will stop. I'm down $4784.00

[@KentBrooks26]

Making the field bet $25 really skews the payout twords the outside numbers. 2, 4, 9, 10, 12 are the real profit centers.

[@FreeformAggie]

12 pays in Reno, 2 pays in Vegas. You're just in two places at the same time man.

[@ColorUp]

exactly, thanks you. ha

[@randy5248]

🤣 love that

[@matteframe]

Great video! Kind of like a light/dark strategy ... Would love to see more darkside hedging plays (not full darkside tho those would be cool too!!) Keep up the good work...

[@martinleithe8251]

cool to see the strategy, but I reeeally don't like covering the number I want to avoid, feels like a big waste. If the points 5, I would just spare myself of those 30$. See alot of your videos use the place bets as a strategy, do you got any Hardways, hops, Any 7, Any craps.. type of cool strategys? I know the house edge is big but just wonder if it is some decent strat to maneuver the middle of the board aswell.

[@ColorUp]

I try to avoid the middle of table. But will start showing strategies that include prop bets more.

[@misterchubbikins]

Around 12 min he pays the don't pass on a midnight roll on a bar 12 table. I want him as my dealer. 😆

[@MrRickb04]

You miscalculated one bet when you bet $575 on the DP and you took a win when the 12 showed up, you didn't win. This is a dressed up Martingale progression. These have been shown to ultimately be a losing strategy but fun to watch.

[@DJvRoD]

It's more of a D'alembert.

[@torlumnitor8230]

11:55 Color up gets chewed out by his pit boss because that felt clearly says bar 12.

[@edarmstrong5955]

And is relegated to the roulette table for 30 days.

[@ColorUp]

30 days...ugh roulette

[@carpetcowboy58]

@@edarmstrong5955 Nope. The Big Wheel. Rookies, drunks and no tips.

[@guidosarducci166]

@@ColorUp 30 days in the hole! There's a song about this, I think! :)

[@Ghtshronis]

I want you as my dealer so I can get paid on a 12 in the don't pass!

[@ColorUp]

Relax

[@wilburstine923]

playing field is reducing from winning

[@Hornet-308]

You push on the come out 12 which everyone pointed out. But when you stop playing those place bets would go back to the player not to the casino. You should have counted your winnings looked like you at least broke even. Nice video though. You ever do a meet and greet in Beloxi, Ms I would go. I live in Central Florida no crap tables. The powers that regulate gamboling say that "craps is gambling" go figure.

[@ColorUp]

Yeah, I lived in Florida for almost 15yrs, only played the bubble machine

[@tpsu129]

So...It's the Iron Crapper with 5 times the bet and 10 times the bankroll. Casinos will love this one.

[@ColorUp]

tpsu129 casinos love all strategies

[@gdkadventure]

True that! No matter the strategy the magnet always seems on.

[@guidosarducci166]

I'm curious is there's a stop loss on the martingailing the Don't? I was messing around with this system and all was fine and good (up $3300) when out of nowhere I got steamrolled by winner 7/11's. I rapidly found myself staring at a $3000+ Don't pass line bet which, of course, got swiped on yet another winner 7. Oh, and after $675, the math starts to get wonky. Next step is $1012.5... If we are to continue to martingale our way to the floor watching the action, we either have to round or we will be betting a rainbow.

[@ColorUp]

Martingales are tough to stomach. As far as stop loss, I would set it at your comfort level. lets say its 1000, it certainly tough to cut your loses at that point and start over, but that is the drawback of martingales.

[@dannypresson4815]

Maybe use the Stern method on the don't pass line bet and field bet. Is the four and ten really necessary? Also, some insurance on the come out roll by betting on the eleven and when the point is even, bet a little on the appropriate hardway. Just my initial impression. Good job presenting an interesting but for me, an unnerving strategy. I was holding on to my chair.

[@MS-ef1gy]

Hi Danny, I have run a lot of simulations on this and it does not pay to bet the eleven on the come out roll. The 2 and 3 more than compensate for the 11 over the long run. I agree this would be an unnerving strategy. It appears that most of the action occurs not with the "ATM" but rather the large progressive bets on the Don't Pass. Color Up does an excellent job of presenting this as usual!

[@customerservice2902]

I am not sure what is up with all the hate, but I programmed this betting strat into E7's Craps Trainer (I cut all the bets in half, though) and turned off all the extraneous crap so I could roll quickly and repeatedly. Within 20 minutes my 3k bankroll was at 6k. I am gonna keep messing with this and see if it is a fluke or not.

[@ColorUp]

Well eventually all craps strategies lose in the end, it just depends on the dice results.

[@brizzlex1919]

What were your extended results?

[@veteranmortgagescout]

The "Dont Pass Bar" bet is not a contract bet, so it can be pulled back, right? If the point comes 6 or 8, wouldn't it make sense to pull the DPB back?

[@ColorUp]

you can remove but never should - watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/qomQiquihJiDo7M

[@kaanthony8218]

No matter the point you have the advantage when the 7 is in your favor...pulling it back puts you back at risk to get beat by the 7

[@bgsdiceden3439]

That is what happens when you’re so popular. 😂😂😂we are all critics✌️✌️ Looking forward to next time in Blackhawk,take care and stay safe...👍👍

[@ColorUp]

I don't mind the critics, involvement is good. Hopefully I can get another Blackhawk date done soon

[@BJTF3D]

So question......why not like a 10 dollar horn instead of the field......(the only time I leave the casino down or even is when I make field bets lol)

[@ColorUp]

Play the way you like, field covers more numbers but pays less. If you only lose when betting the field, then yeah, stay away :)

[@Twinsen764]

Nice Bar 12, lol. Don't worry, i won't tell my dealers. Too bad i can't do this strategy in blackhawk with max of $100. Maybe $40 DP and 36 across and 5 field.

[@DCWERmax]

Is this called the dark side atm cus you gotta keep going to the atm to get more money

[@ColorUp]

Maybe

[@mikelkeith2115]

A color up, Jeremy this is Ohio Mikel tell your fans ,and the people you was just testing us on that 12 Bar mistake LOL ,l didn't want to keep bug you too much ,but I'm still waiting on that crapless craps video I got this Baker Mayfield hat for you, there selling for cheap now at the thrift store LOL take care. Do your magic and make that crapless craps table those things are hard to find.

[@coreygigoux7342]

I would hedge the 11 7 also I would not play feild just put 1.00 on the 2 3 12

[@ColorUp]

Thanks

[@alexandramcgraw3227]

Question Why not bet 10$ on horn Wouldn’t the math work out the same? But not 2x or 3x 12 is 30x

[@jonathangerac2820]

Just put that same $20 on the horn, your giving up the 4/9/10 payouts but every roll your covering the horn bet and still making money

[@baileydouberley8365]

I feel like $7 on anti craps bet would be better than the field for this strategy?

[@BDiLL22]

Love the DarkSide!!! 💪🏾

[@talonthompson5494]

@ColorUp I don’t know if you’re reading this but can you tell me where you got those chips

[@MWAHAHAHAHA414]

Love the videos and like this strategy but any martingale strategy can wipe you out fast with 5 bad rolls in a row. I ran this strategy on Wizzard of Odds and kept the Don't Pass bet at $200 the whole time and still did ok.

[@MS-ef1gy]

My experience running this on the Wizard of Odds was just the opposite. I was beginning to thing the Wizard of Odds was not so random...so good to hear this.

[@MWAHAHAHAHA414]

@@MS-ef1gy maybe i spoke too soon. Even at a constant $200 I've gotten smoked more times than win now that I've done it more the last two days. The hard thing with any of these hedging the Don't Pass strategies are you are risking a big bet on the come out roll. Inevitably all you need is a combo of a few points hitting or 7/11 on come out and you're buried. I think these can work if you run hot quickly and stop (like most strategies) but I think over longer sample, you'll always have a few big losing sessions that are hard to overcome. ???? It's all a gamble I guess.

[@edarmstrong5955]

@@MS-ef1gy It's not random in my opinion. I've run hundreds if not thousands of rolls testing betting strategies using that software and I have seen definite patterns. Others have commented as much as well.

[@matteframe]

So if wizard of odds is no good, does anyone have a better craps simulation app?

[@brizzlex1919]

@@edarmstrong5955 What incentive do you think the developers had to rig a simulator?

[@bgsdiceden3439]

Don’t know if you caught it ,but I thought I saw you pay yourself on a roll of 12 on the don’t pass. It occurred at either 10:55 or 11:55 of the video. I’m sure you caught it,am I wrong?

[@ColorUp]

Nope, I missed it. Have been told 100 times already ha, appreciate the time stamps, thanks

[@happymangovegan5180]

How do you win with the 12 on the don’t? That’s a push sir.

[@ColorUp]

Thanks, its a mistake in the video.

[@michdax7627]

i can't find a comment on this error 11:52 roll 12 on the DP is Bar 12 it's a push

[@ColorUp]

Mistake. It happens from time to time in my vids. Thanks for finding

[@Wabby21]

Why not just put maybe $5 each on the C&E instead of the field?

[@ColorUp]

adapt as you like, sorry, its been awhile and I don't remember specifics of this strategy

[@neilohara7462]

You'll get some good comps betting >$200 on Don't Pass

[@dontswin]

My God man you hit that 2 craps with $575 up there!!!!! LOL. at 10:25 ..and you hit that 3 earlier for $450 which looked like you may have subliminally been able to bang that one out. LOL , idk something about that shake just before you threw them on that one. You'd make a mint if you could bang those 3's out at will, if you could you wouldn't have to show us anymore videos. :^ ) This is pretty cool and I just think you need a bunch of field numbers. I've nothing bad to say about it, a bit expense for my league. I think maybe you should lay the 5 or 9 AFTER 4 or 5 of either one and probably remove one of the 4 or 10 buys. Tricky gig right here. The lay bet will reinforce the power of your Don't Pass, but I wouldn't want to blow $31 on a 4 or 10 buy.

[@ColorUp]

Yeah, escaped disaster with some lucky rolls

[@michaelkirkpatrick494]

I really enjoy your channel but you made several mistakes here. 12 does not pay on the Don't Pass. You did not increase the bet to 675 when it was needed. The point was made on the last role but when you took down the place bets it went to the house and not to the player. No problem. The strategy was a win in this test but it is high stakes betting and you were one loss away from disaster.

[@ColorUp]

Yep, some videos I make more mistakes than others. Still trying for that perfect one ;)

[@uncleangelo4591]

You would be better off if instead of playing the field you make a horn bet

[@davidwishecoby7797]

I am absolutely brand new to the game of craps so please don't laugh at my question. Can you play the pass and don't pass after the come out? Or are those two bets that need to be made before the come out? I know you can pull your don't pass bet down at any time, but the past that has to stay once it's made correct?

[@ColorUp]

You can remove don’t bet at anytime, but a pass bet is a contract bet and cannot be removed. You are also correct that you can not make those bets after the come out roll and a point is set, BUT the come and don’t come work exactly the same as a pass and don’t pass, but in the middle of the game.

[@davidwishecoby7797]

@@ColorUp the common don't come bets are contract that's as well correct? Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. And just to show the respect for your time, I have put in about 8 to 10 hours of watching your videos over the past five or six days LOL. You probably answered my questions in there somewhere but I've been through a lot of videos. What is the payout on a C&E?

[@ColorUp]

@@davidwishecoby7797 Ha, thanks for watching. Don't pass and Don't come bets are not contract bets. The reason is the casino has the advantage for the first roll, after a don't point is set the player has the advantage and is more likely to win, so the casino is happy to let you remove the bet. You should not do so as it is to your advantage to leave it up. The C&E pays 7:1 if you roll a 2,3,12 and 15:1 if you roll 11.

[@havefun3532]

Nice video, but how would you adjust it for Blackhawk?

[@jamesbyers648]

$100 bet limit? Why play craps at all?

[@ColorUp]

$100 don't - Then bet close to $100 on rest (maybe $15 on the outside numbers, $12 on 6/8 and $15 on field) or whatever combo you would like

[@ColorUp]

suits me just fine, I don't like to start with much of risk up front and happy to collect on numbers pressed up to $100

[@christopherdelaughter1239]

Lol like I'm coming to a dice table with 3gs. I'll test in on my phone app

[@ColorUp]

Some people thats a small bankroll, for me...thats my yearly budget ha

[@jeremydyar7566]

Get rid if the field

[@MrJzM]

Is there a version of this strategy that works with a smaller betting unit size? Like would it work the same or similar if you started at $300 and put 32 across, 5 or 10 field, and 35/40 dont pass?

[@ColorUp]

Absolutely

[@andyduba1595]

I was thinking the same. Cool strategy but a $3000 bankroll with $200 on the don’t pass!? Way too rich for me. I’ll give this strategy a try next time I’m at a table with those smaller units. Thx

[@SkillandLuckCRAPS]

MrJzM Why are you asking? You know you can take any system and either downsize it or upsize it by using your math skills. Does Color Up need to make a video on learning how to do this? Really? ? ? ?

[@xsmith5561]

Where can I get them dice?

[@guidosarducci166]

They're all over Amazon.

[@denirn8725]

I can imagine playing w a bankroll of $3 grand! The only ATM would be the casino withdrawing from my bank.😫 Oh yeah, & how till I’m in divorce court after spending the home mortgage payment?😳

[@education654321]

You have to have a big bank roll for this

[@ColorUp]

Most dark side strats require more as you are betting more to win back less. Thats the problem with betting on the favorite

[@education654321]

Color Up yea. I think the best strategy and video of yours is when you hedge the point. That way you can win regardless but the only problem is if I can make the come out roll

[@guidosarducci166]

@@education654321 Hedging the point is actually a losing strat with this system, because you're losing that money on the 7 out or if you hit your point the soft way. This system does make a little money from the place/buy bets, but it makes a LOT of money from the Don't Pass when it starts getting expensive. Hitting the point leads to short term variance, but in the longer run this leads to profitability. The issue with this system is that realistically there are very few people who are willing or able to bring a sufficient bankroll to the table to ride out what could be a severe variance.

[@education654321]

Paul Jenkins you will be losing on the come out with this strategy regardless. But if you hedge the point you basically won’t lose because you will win your money back if you hit the point. But I think see where you coming from. Basically we have to put 180 across regardless for this strategy. But I like this strategy so I would just do the don’t come as well to protect the place bets

[@BonaZye]

The Risk of Gambling I tell you 😂

[@palerider660]

6/6-12 on the don’t is a push! The house cheated itself out of $450! I don’t think so.

[@brizzlex1919]

You'll get over it

[@jimbob2810]

Not the best EV strategy, bu a great way to get comps.

[@meicemeari]

Will it mix with the fire bet?

[@ColorUp]

fire bet is a side bet or side game, you can always add it to any way you play

[@alexandramcgraw3227]

Keep up the great worj

[@ColorUp]

Thanks!