Combat Armory CA19 | Is It Junk?

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@ChrisFromThe740
@ChrisFromThe740 6 ай бұрын
Wow, what a journey I was getting frustrated just watching this. I am definitely impressed with that kind of customer service, you don't see much of that anymore. Great video Matt
@andrewsj65
@andrewsj65 3 ай бұрын
I have two CA19 frames from Combat Armory that I built from scratch. I had many issues with failure to extract and failure to feed, but it was due to after market slide parts. After I replaced the striker assembly, ejector, and extractor rod and spring with OEM Glock parts. I may have also replaced the extractor but I don't remember. It runs flawlessly now.
@ssvgroup2563
@ssvgroup2563 20 күн бұрын
Yeah this is something I've seen over the years (Glock Armorer here). I've got one of their frames with all Glock internals and I haven't had any issues that weren't Magpul mag related (I do agree that they're not that good, especially the early batches). I played this at 1.5x and I saw a lot of what I'd consider to be questionable 'testing'. A lot of FTEs can be traced to .40 extractors in 9mm guns. Running aftermarket mags, or Glock mags with aftermarket bases/parts can be problematic. This is a sample size of one and anecdote is only evidence of the anecdote itself. My experience to date has been that most aftermarket slide and frames are generally ok (barrels can be a mixed bag), but when you start adding aftermarket internals, you start getting into issues that become more and more difficult to diagnose. I browsed this pages multitude of links and shockingly enough, no bios, just lots of typical guntuber stuff. *shrugs*
@sokyoutdoors588
@sokyoutdoors588 6 ай бұрын
I have bought quite a bit of stuff from Combat Armory, have yet to have a bad experience except when they run really good sales shipping can be on the slow side.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
I have the bullet AR upper/lower set and like it. Thanks!
@gryphonz3
@gryphonz3 6 ай бұрын
Very fair review. I am surprised they went to that much effort for a pistol at that price point. They could just have told you to pack sand and suck it up. I do have to say...the ejection pattern in the beginning footage is impressive.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Overall, now that it's running well, it's a really good shooting and consistent pistol. If it was this nice the day I received it, this would have been a completely different video. Thanks for watching!
@kswade71
@kswade71 6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, that’s one hell of a journey for this review. Sounds like some harsh lessons learned by the company. Hopefully they have a team full of Noahs who are willing to embrace the faults and implement changes to fix it. Great review and thanks for all the time invested in it!
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it brother. Yea...it was discouraging at times.
@EggplantHarmesan
@EggplantHarmesan 18 күн бұрын
I think Combat Armory is run by 1 guy. Support email and company email are both Mike@combatarmory.
@rsagmil
@rsagmil 6 ай бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for letting the company show what they think of their customers (which turned out to be excellent customer service). I have one of their frames that came with a lpk and i assembled it myself (first time doing such a thing). It replaced a dagger frame for all of the reasons you stated about holster compatibility. I use a complete dagger slide and have ~500 rounds through it with just a couple malfunctions when using cheap magazines. Over all i have been very satisfied. I guess i got a good locking block :)
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yes, as far as frame to frame. I'll take the CA frame over the Dagger frame any day. Assuming the CA frame and components are working together properly.
@codybill24
@codybill24 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, impressive that the customer service went through all that. Surprising that for that price point they didn't just say "you get what you get, deal with it" so it seems like if you're okay with the possibility of going through that troubleshooting process, might be worth getting one.
@GTacticalJody
@GTacticalJody 6 ай бұрын
Mine came with a gritty feeling locking block, I immediately switched it out to Glock oem. Haven’t got around to testing yet. Glad you did this extensive review for all the Glock boys out there🙏🏾‼️
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Hopefully they've improved things now. Thanks for watching. And if you think about it. Come back and comment how yours runs once you can test it. Thanks!
@h1tm4n26
@h1tm4n26 3 ай бұрын
Now i know where to go for a full auto glock lmao
@tundrafourbyfour
@tundrafourbyfour 2 ай бұрын
Interesting review and video(s). It’s amazing that the least suspicious part can be the culprit of days/months of headaches. I am amazed that this issue came down to the locking block. During a recent LEOSA qualification, a shooter was having major ammo issues with numerous failures to fire with “new in the box” Turkish 9mm. I switched him out ammo, which cycled perfectly. I gathered up his boxed & unboxed ammo and misfired rounds and brought them home to autopsy. Primers all had good strikes and functioned on the bench with powder removed. Close exam revealed the powder was saturated with and oily solution. Now, to qualify my position, I also purchased a CA19 frame and a CA19 pistol. I'm not to happy with all the pins tolerances, but I’ve never had a locking block issue. In so far as the gun out of the box performance and subsequent usage, I’ve never experienced an issue. Luck of the draw, I guess. Everyone’s experience is different, but I will agree 100%, some folks don’t know their a*s from a hole in the ground, and they share the hell out of me with a gun in their hand! Happy shooting! Dan
@Hog40305
@Hog40305 5 ай бұрын
CA is a solid but mysterious little company. I've never understood how they went from random AR parts and lowers, and a never ending supply of dirt cheap Glock barrels, to offering a polymer Glock frame.. That said, I've had good luck with several of their barrels and the 19 frame (using an AIM parts kit)
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 5 ай бұрын
@@Hog40305 Of the box of barrels they sent that I pointed out in the video. They've been solid! Thanks!
@jamiedees8223
@jamiedees8223 18 күн бұрын
I would DEFINITELY get some OEM Glock mags just to ensure proper performance as much as possible.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 18 күн бұрын
@jamiedees8223 I have plenty of OE Glock mags.
@jamiedees8223
@jamiedees8223 18 күн бұрын
@ so why did U use ETS magazines in this gun?? Maybe U did and I missed it. I just heard U mention that U were using ETS magazines because U don’t like Magpul PMags. So I was wondering why U weren’t just using OEM Glock mags instead of ETS, but maybe U did use Glock mags and I missed it. ETS mags don’t have the greatest history. Personally Ive had better luck with PMags, but nowadays only buy OEM Glock mags and have always only used OEM mags for carry. The video was good and in depth and well documented.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 18 күн бұрын
@@jamiedees8223 Well, you (and "you" is a word) missed it. As much as you think you know. You missed a lot.
@gunsandink
@gunsandink 6 ай бұрын
I just want to say great video, very informative and non biased. Also, thank you again.
@TheRealCardz
@TheRealCardz 5 ай бұрын
An update to my last comment on your last CA review 10 months ago. What you’re saying is spot on so far. I’m in the middle of what you went through with the same gentleman you’re speaking of. So far he’s gone above and beyond to help me out and get this right. We are not there yet and hopefully will be soon. My issue was with the slide being out of spec along with the cruciform issue you were speaking of. I prob got an LPK from the same batch you did. I begrudgingly ended up taking mine to ATEI Guns here in Michigan and spent quite a bit of money to get the original gun running but it was not what you want to shoot on a regular basis. I always correct any issues on my firearms but this one had me stumped. The cruciform had to be altered tremendously by Doug at ATEI and after speaking with CA they don’t want me, and ultimately I don’t want me to have a pistol in my collection like that. So I’ll keep you posted when I get a new slide in the and new LPK installed in the coming week. Fucking awesome and real video man. I want this gun to work so bad because they’re a local company to me and I want them to have success. But…..in time.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 5 ай бұрын
@TheRealCardz Great comment and I'm glad they're setting things straight for you! And yes, please, keep me posted if you can. Thanks!
@trevorteague8430
@trevorteague8430 6 ай бұрын
Damn bro, so all that and it was the locking block the whole time? Have you tried a different lpk or locking block in that other frame?
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
No, I haven't. And honestly, it never occurred to me at this point to try one. I'll do that! Thanks bro!
@trevorteague8430
@trevorteague8430 6 ай бұрын
@RTTGunsGear its possible they had a run of out of spec locking blocks..🤷‍♂️
@marknottage
@marknottage 6 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the time and effort you put into this review. Thanks again for being a trustworthy source for such info. Also, glad to know there's a Glock clone maker worth considering.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
I certainly appreciate man! And I appreciate all the support!
@MHSMokeEater
@MHSMokeEater 6 ай бұрын
Nuthin Fancy Has conditioned me many moons ago over his excessive long rabbit holes of his TNP gun reviews so 31 minutes isn’t gonna kill me.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Most people celebrate a birthday in the amount of time it takes to get through an Nuthin Fancy video.
@MHSMokeEater
@MHSMokeEater 4 ай бұрын
@@RTTGunsGear 😂😂😂great point.
@GolfRemoEchoGolf2
@GolfRemoEchoGolf2 6 ай бұрын
Your beard is looking steller ! Im silver too , watching this thinking im growing my shit back lol PS they sound like they are doing good on customer service, now im perplexed lol , i may have to buy a frame and give it a try too
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it! Lol... If you buy the frame, I wish you the best of luck!
@mattknower8073
@mattknower8073 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for all of the time you spent on this! Have you tried a OEM Glock locking block on the first frame? I polished the one I got from them because it was really rough with an eye to swapping it out with OEM Glock if I ran into issues.
@tokkie4449
@tokkie4449 Ай бұрын
That's a painful experience. Sorry you went through that. Did you get to keep all those barrels they sent you?Just curious
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear Ай бұрын
@@tokkie4449 Yes, I still have everything. Thanks!
@albertmedalla3941
@albertmedalla3941 6 ай бұрын
Great honest review as always thank you
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate it!
@ronaldmertes9180
@ronaldmertes9180 6 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍 five thumbs up, you could have just stick it in the safe and just bitched about it but you held their feet to the fire and they were willing to make things right, hats off to both of you working things out a little R&D so to say, if they start making them in a G17 clone I may give them a look..
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Yea.. I have to give it to them. Their customer service was second to none! Thanks!
@mydude_az
@mydude_az 6 ай бұрын
Dude I lost it at "a bit of Mattitude" 😂 dude your a legend!
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂 Thanks bro!
@d_baggzhernandez6215
@d_baggzhernandez6215 Ай бұрын
Love the video bro just ordered mines today cant wait to put some rounds through it 🤙🏽
@eltenda
@eltenda 6 ай бұрын
Well it's finally working for you Great review 😊
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks bro!
@youeladamas7840
@youeladamas7840 6 ай бұрын
I think all these glock clones have this trigger and locking block issue. Had a dagger/p80 trigger do the same burst fire. Many also get feeding issues if the parts aren’t polished down first. Sounds like a good company. I think they are showing that budget option is possible and some options are overpriced. I have seen many reviews and ppl just say on more expensive guns just don’t use this ammo might have issues
@juanj.robles207
@juanj.robles207 6 ай бұрын
Got to give you credit, you have a lot more patience then I do, drive on.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
It nearly became a challenge that I had to win at some point..lol. Thanks for watching!
@sleigh4019
@sleigh4019 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I see daggers for 259$ I don't think there gonna crush them ..at 199$ maybe
@BlackRifleMedic
@BlackRifleMedic 6 ай бұрын
The comments get out of hand sometimes. I just delete the dumb ones now.
@johnmasters-58
@johnmasters-58 4 ай бұрын
Try doing a SCCY CPX 1 9mm on for size ,.I'd love to see your expression great video if it looks like a Glock dose not mean its a Glock
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 4 ай бұрын
@@johnmasters-58 Thanks! I've actually owned two CPX-2 pistols. What a hunk of garbage!! Lol. Never a CPX-1. I heard they're worse.
@Tacticaltaco-kc9be
@Tacticaltaco-kc9be 5 ай бұрын
I had a similar problem with the lonewolf frame. They come with shitty trigger packs. I switched the trigger housing and trigger bar to glock oem and it fixed all issues. I'm sure same thing happened here..these cheap frame companies use cheap parts not glock oem. I've had issues with psa,sct,timberwolf and it was trigger pack issues. For the fte issues I've had same issues with their barrels in the past. I don't buy their barrels anymore.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 5 ай бұрын
@Tacticaltaco-kc9be I love the Lone Wolf trigger. I did a review on the Dusk 19 and it's probably the most feature rich and nicest shooting G19 "clones" I've ever shot. Maybe it's just the one I have. I don't know.
@T.A.B.Videos
@T.A.B.Videos 6 ай бұрын
Well done Matt
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Don!!! I appreciate it!
@jesseboutdoors
@jesseboutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Great video on your experience Matt 👍🇺🇸
@jimstaszko1675
@jimstaszko1675 6 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience with CA, at least the failure to extract, not the full auto problem, and I also had the same customer service experience. They try hard, but just never cut it as a reliable firearm. I was disappointed too, I wanted it to success. I have SEVERAL G19 G3 clones and like that platform and seeing what other companies do with it, (Dagger, Bul Armory Axe, Anderson Kiger, Shadow System).
@thechiefsway2618
@thechiefsway2618 6 ай бұрын
Very Fair Review. Thank you!!
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@madeconomist458
@madeconomist458 6 ай бұрын
I *love* their frames, everything else is meh.
@tigershrum
@tigershrum 5 ай бұрын
Well I'm glad that you after the journey got to something that you were favorable to my experience with combat armory was a love-hate relationship I love the prices but I hate what I got I purchased two slides and one woodwork and one would not
@sleigh4019
@sleigh4019 6 ай бұрын
19 mins in ..painful !! But there Customerservice is amazing
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
It really is. Thanks for suffering through the video
@gregmontoya7295
@gregmontoya7295 6 ай бұрын
They are not in stock thanks for the review. I was looking for a second pistol great price.
@douglasphillips24
@douglasphillips24 6 ай бұрын
For the money, you can't beat the SCT Frames in my opinion. Love your content and diligence in testing budget gun parts over the years.
@h1tm4n26
@h1tm4n26 3 ай бұрын
"temu spec"
@JJoker69
@JJoker69 5 ай бұрын
I'll stick with the Dagger, thanks for the insight on a journey that finally has a Quality ending
@YEETUS_DELETUS_
@YEETUS_DELETUS_ 6 ай бұрын
They made a glock 😂
@GHicks-lu5tu
@GHicks-lu5tu 3 ай бұрын
My striker rattles audibly in gun when decocked.
@jimstaszko1675
@jimstaszko1675 6 ай бұрын
I can't agree more about their customer service. Am I happy I had issues, no, but it was a $220 G19 g3 clone. Am I happy they fell over themselves to fix it, yeah, it was nice to see. It was never going to be a trusted self defense tool, so it is what it is, a low value, g19 g3 clone that'll be a range toy or safe queen.
@davidwatt975
@davidwatt975 4 ай бұрын
I think you just had bad luck. I've built 2. Of course the only CBA parts I used were the polymer frames. The first one I built I couldn't get any of the premium triggers I bought to work, they worked well in my Glock 23s and 19s, so, I ended up using a DAGGER trigger with Glock performance parts. Even the cheap chinese Glock copy triggers would not work in the CBA frame. I live in SC and PSA is down the street, they have a great indoor pistol range. That particular CBA pistol FRAME shoots well and is very reliable. My second build is also very reliable, but again, the only real CBA part is the polymer frame. I use Magpul magazines, they work well, but actual Glock mags work the best. I spent way more than I should have on cheap frames, And I have 2 reliable Glock 19 copies that don't have any resale value. As far as competing with the Dagger, well, the Dagger is cheap, but not cheaply made. All my Daggers were built exclusively with Dagger parts. I think the best Glock 19 Copy is probably the Polymer 80. I've built 2 of those, all with P80 parts and mags, they shoot well. The Anderson Kiger is a real nice shooter, I have built 2 of those. I like Anderson products. the Lone Wolf frames are premium. The SCTs are good. Finding holsters can be a challenge. I also think the clones perform better with the heavier bullet weights. 115 grain is the cheapest ammo (any brand) but I found that even my Glocks perform better with 124 and 147 grain bullets. So, if you have read this far, I would say, buy the actual Glock 19 if you want 9mm or the 23 if you want 40s&w. if your a first time gun owner, and have found you made a mistake and cannot own a gun for whatever reason, the Glock will sell fast, and you will get a good price. A used clone is worth more in parts than completed. And if shooting is a new found passion, the Glock can be easily customized with triggers, sights, barrels. holsters are easy to find. Happy shooting everyone. Dave in SC
@Rumplef0reskin
@Rumplef0reskin 6 ай бұрын
Great video....cool shirt.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Jeff-xn1ew
@Jeff-xn1ew 6 ай бұрын
Well done video. I thank you.
@tacticaltoolbox7046
@tacticaltoolbox7046 6 ай бұрын
Good info. Too bad all the testing ammo, trips to the range, phone, etc offset the budget. Sure hope the manufacturer learns from this. Pinching pennies at the factory, that's a hard issue. There's not a lot of profit margin.
@DB2A7
@DB2A7 6 ай бұрын
Pass. Dagger, SCT, Lone Wolf to name a few are who I run with.
@chrisfisher3900
@chrisfisher3900 6 ай бұрын
Yes those glock pmags are absolute shit at best. I have 13 of them and trust 0 for anything.
@Scott079
@Scott079 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like they’ve been buying cheap Chinese parts without even testing them
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
I can't speak to where all of the parts come from. But I do know they manufacture their own barrels.
@muffemod
@muffemod 6 ай бұрын
I'd pay triple for a pistol that fires full auto out of the box.
@GHicks-lu5tu
@GHicks-lu5tu 3 ай бұрын
The rigger has false walls. Get this trigger or connector out of your gun immediately?!
@PnP-td1mt
@PnP-td1mt 6 ай бұрын
Funny part is the ones how are spouting off about quality and “stacking tolerances” don’t know f$&k all about quality or “stacking tolerances”.
@RTTGunsGear
@RTTGunsGear 6 ай бұрын
💯 true statement! Thanks for watching!
@tonyjoplin8758
@tonyjoplin8758 4 ай бұрын
And thats why they only cost $250ish.
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