The way this guy tries to bring 'antisemitism' into every issue is beyond tedious. Horton telling him this isn't about his feeling and to grow up is pure gold
@DHFrank5 күн бұрын
Scott Horton in an encyclopedia of foreign policy knowledge. SALUTE!!!
@jtwilliams88955 күн бұрын
For a guy that is so concerned about antisemitism, Noam doesn’t seem too concerned about real Not-sees in Ukraine. It’s all just water off a duck’s back.
@yngwz3 күн бұрын
All the Nazi's that elected a jewish president, right? Let the adults handle this one champ.
@chrisyoung21796 күн бұрын
Kissinger basically says “well, now that the baby’s cooked we might as well eat it!”
@SThrillz5 күн бұрын
It's so stupid I don't even know how someone can use that argument.
@jtwilliams88955 күн бұрын
Well, of course Kissinger is kind of the intellectual godfather of American empire. So he’s never going to play the dove and oppose such a major conflict America is involved in, no matter what he said in the past. I think @chrisyoung sums it up nicely
@yngwz3 күн бұрын
It's actually pretty simple. We didn't let them join in order to prevent war. Didn't work.
@PhilosophyofArtandScienceКүн бұрын
Scott the goat.
@Canuck5164 күн бұрын
Scott exposed this guy completely!
@yngwz3 күн бұрын
Cope
@billusher22657 күн бұрын
46:09 people aren’t saying Netanyahu propping up Hamas caused Oct 7, they’re saying it indicates the economic punishment of Gaza was not based on security and his intention was obstructing peace to keep expanding settlements.
@abbaeben64097 күн бұрын
October 7th changed all prior calculations
@billusher22657 күн бұрын
@@abbaeben6409 it didn’t
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
@@abbaeben6409 The idea that world leaders sometimes miscalculate never enters the conspiratorial mindset.
@abbaeben64096 күн бұрын
@@kswindl exactly. Things change. Ask a Hezbollah soldier why he has one less testicle today…things change. Ask a “resistance” fighter in Yemen why the country has no electricity….things change.
@hotpotato33116 күн бұрын
@@abbaeben6409 It did not rofl.
@timmiller29133 күн бұрын
Scott knows his shit and has receipts. His books are excellent
@kiswindsidaguigma92616 күн бұрын
Why do you think we finance NGOs in poor countries? Just because we are nice people? No! That's to have access into their societies to influence them.
@matthewj38925 күн бұрын
I’m just 43 minutes in, and so far Scott has given sound analysis, and how 66% of the CFR opposed all this, and Noam has gripped onto Kissinger (while ironically suggesting Scott is working backwards)… then all of a sudden Noam supplies a montage of different short clips of different people then getting Scott to answer for how the anti-Ukraine war opinion is somehow linked with anti-semitism lollll I was laughing, I don’t fault Scott for being pissed. What a joke
@chiddleychidds49174 күн бұрын
Noam if you really want some more credible people to hear this all from I can help with a short list Prof. Glenn Diesen, Ambassador Chaz Freeman, Ambassador Jack Matlock, Prof. John Mearsheimer, Col Lawrence Wilkerson, Prof. Jeffrey Sachs Prof. Steven Cohen You may want to actually familiarise yourself with Prof. Ivan Katchanovski's work on the sniper massacre, that key event at the root of the coup, the civil war and ultimately the present war. Thanks for the interview tho
@imrekalman90442 күн бұрын
Sadly prof. Cohen is not available for an interview. :(
@Kmnavyhomeinspection2 күн бұрын
Noam is very good at BS. Big chip on his shoulder. Horton looks like a historian and is great at explaining his opinion and facts. Not everything is perfect but close
@BeginnerDude7 күн бұрын
Thank you for having Scott on
@10055Linda6 күн бұрын
Scott is great and Salute 🫡
@andibpunkt-o8c6 күн бұрын
He´s a paid Russian shill. With the debating skills of a pre-schooler.
@nocturnalowl58674 күн бұрын
“The idea of a neutral Ukraine is no longer meaningful…” -meaning the neutrality was meaningful before the conflict. The party that demanded for Ukraine to choose a side was the one who instigated the conflict. Simple.
@FreedomFox17 күн бұрын
A peace deal was negotiated two months into this war. According to mediator, Naftali Bennett It was the US and the UK that throttled peace. He couldn’t explain why, except to say that it might be to send a message to China.
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
Bennett himself denies this happened, but OK.
@FreedomFox16 күн бұрын
@ He says it in his interview with Hanoch Daum. It’s on KZbin, for anyone interested.
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
@@FreedomFox1 He says there never was a deal, and talks broke down due to accusations of Russian war crimes.
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
Interesting no one ever says what this supposed deal entailed.
@FreedomFox16 күн бұрын
@@kswindl Did you watch the Daum interview? Bennett says the deal was in its advanced stages, when it broke down due to US in UK intervention.
@raywolff98867 күн бұрын
It was going so well until Noam went to the BS “How do you answer for these people” tactic around 46 minutes in. People are tired of these Childish antics. Good to see Noam called out for this BS by Scott.
@michaeljames84107 күн бұрын
Your "quote" is nowhere in the video. And what's wrong with getting someones opinion on what the biggest commentators on the planet are saying about the subject they're discussing?
@charlesferdinand4226 күн бұрын
@@michaeljames8410 The problem is that the host wanted to employ the classic strategy of defusing criticism of someone who happens to be Jewish by claiming all criticism is antisemitism instead of debating the merits of the criticism itself; plus he wanted Scott to answer for someone else's statement and extrapolate the supposed antisemitism of other people and apply it to Scott thus accusing Scott of being antisemitic because of other people supposedly are which is insane.
@merfymac6 күн бұрын
Noam is just doing his job
@Shoutinthewind6 күн бұрын
@@merfymachis job in this moment is to interview Scott about his arguments, not to play a bunch of out of context clips of other people who have nothing to do with Scott or what he is arguing and ask Scott comment on them
@Shoutinthewind6 күн бұрын
@@michaeljames8410commenters who have nothing to do with Scott and who’s comments have nothing to do with what Scott is arguing?
@chiddleychidds49174 күн бұрын
Scott Horton💪
@chaosmos246 күн бұрын
I get it because of his identity, but Noam lays it on pretty thick with the antisemitism angle. It is the only lens through which he views the world.
@comedycellarclips6 күн бұрын
This is amazing to me. I'm pointing out that this is the lens with which the anti-Ukraine people are presenting it. Am I making it up. Who is more associated with this stuff than Greenwald and Carlson??? They say Israel is the "primary" factor.
@AnaS-Wats6 күн бұрын
those who generally oppose war are going to have problems with Israel and are going to see it as the key "satellite" state of US to control middle east. Nothing to do with religion.
@chaosmos246 күн бұрын
@comedycellarclips With our actions in Ukraine?
@HarryPainter6 күн бұрын
@@comedycellarclipsit’s amazing to everyone else that you just read the word antisemitism and heard it as anti Israel
@empatheticrationalist5 күн бұрын
@@HarryPainter It's a nuanced issue. You are totally correct that you can criticize Israel and not hate Jews at all. It's also true that most people that fixate on Israel hate Jews. If a guy said "Dogs are less cleanly than Cats.", totally normal, he just has an opinion based on an observation. If he posts 200 times a day on social media how much Dogs are filthy and evil and the only reason Cats are suffering, he probably hates Dogs.
@boycotte7 күн бұрын
Damn, Scott is prepared✌
@sek3ymisek3ymi4 күн бұрын
Ok bot
@chaosmos246 күн бұрын
1:23:31. Does Noam think the BLM protests in 2020 were totally organic?
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
Organic in the sense they were a product of the historical circumstances of the time? Then yeah.
@jtwilliams88955 күн бұрын
The point is, it was obvious to me years before George Floyd died the national media could have publicized such a case and created civil and political unrest at any moment. It’s a big country with a lot of criminal activity, and cameras in every pocket. They chose to wait for an election year and the reelection campaign of a guy they had been framing as a traitor and impeaching for years. The emotion and outrage was real, but the media coverage and political response was a coordinated, color revolution style campaign. They can and probably will do it again, especially when deportations begin
@markymark84515 күн бұрын
I lived in Kiev for 2 years 2 terribly years and Maidan Square does not hold 1 million people, no way know how impossible it’s not big enough. You can’t fit more than 80,000 people in that square and that would include the surrounding streets.
@jcr4runner4 күн бұрын
What was terrible? I loved Kiev. Been there ten times. Amazing city.
@markymark84514 күн бұрын
@@jcr4runner amazing city my ass, come on man, what the fuck is so great about it? 90% of the restos suck, 90% of the bars suck, 80% of the girls have severe facial acne and crooked tombstone teeth like the British, (yet its promoted that "every" girl is a knock out, bullshit! more like 20% only) utilities shutdown all the time (before the war) the city center is small for an adult, what do you have Barman Diktat and that's it? the rest of them are a joke, although the Alchemist is pretty good, but still not much. And its NOT cheap! Poland and Hungary is cheaper and better than Ukraine.
@markymark84514 күн бұрын
@@jcr4runner amazing city my aSS, come on man, what the fu
@AmericanDeepState4 күн бұрын
@@jcr4runner amazing city my aSS, come on man, what the fu
@AmericanDeepState4 күн бұрын
@@jcr4runner amazing city my aSS, come on man, what the fu
@PhantomOrganization2 күн бұрын
Scott is a national treasure, unfortunately I can't espouse as much for Noam. That being said, Noam does at least attempt to be informed on his positions and platforms valuable voices in spite of not ideologically aligning with them and humor their arguments in relatively good faith. He reminds me a lot of Piers Morgan for better or worse, although he's insufferable when he gets so histrionic regarding any criticism of jewish influence. I **want** to like the guy as he seems well intentioned but he makes it rather challenging.
@AntonShmerkin6 күн бұрын
There was never 'a million people' there. If you want to see what 54000 people look like, watch the 'Moscow march' when the Russians walked the German POWs after Stalingrad through the streets of Moscow in 1944. That's a mere 54000 for you - a never-ending sea of uniforms. To fit a million people on a city street like Khreshatik in Kyiv is a physical impossibility, which is not to say that the protests were largely civil unrest until the Nigoyan's death...
@johanharto50766 күн бұрын
Protests occurred in more cities than one, it was likely the total
@markymark84515 күн бұрын
so true I said, the exact same thing I lived in Kiev for two years, and that whole area is small that squares is too tiny to fit any luck large number of people
@imrekalman90442 күн бұрын
To see what a million people look like I'd recommend "Monsters Of Rock 1991 Moscow". :P
@AntonShmerkin2 күн бұрын
@@imrekalman9044 Right, but that’s Tushino Airfield-standing at one end, you can’t even see the other; it stretches beyond the horizon. Even still, the best estimates - 500,000.
@imrekalman9044Күн бұрын
@@AntonShmerkin As I recall 500k is where they stopped counting. Based on aerial footage the estimated attendance was 1.6 million. Whatever, I was twelve living in a neighbouring country. Either way that's more than Maidan square.
@BeachVolleyB7 күн бұрын
1:41:00 “I’ll do you a solid and I’ll cut that clip into this interview before I post it”. Blank screen at the end… At what temperature is your “solid” actually solid, cause there are just fumes here.
@comedycellarclips7 күн бұрын
KZbin wouldn't allow it.
@Spencerhadley5 күн бұрын
@@comedycellarclipsthen add you saying that in the video. Or just writing on the page.
@Blu3wonder3 күн бұрын
Scott's the man.
@jcr4runner4 күн бұрын
The US does regime changes all the time. Pakistan earlier this year. Now Georgia, Romania, Syria. The CIA is expert in this. When it blows up in their face its culpable deniability. Every conflict on Russia's borders waa originally an "organic" simmering ethnic conflict, but the CIA always stokes them. There were TWO Western regime changes in Kiev -- 2004, 2014. 2025 will be the next one. Right on schedule.
@yngwz3 күн бұрын
This is like a Russian children's story. I can't imagine being this naive.
@lionsprofit6 күн бұрын
Gorton is right we need Peace
@areaunderthecurve99187 күн бұрын
Noam is dumb.
@HarryPainter6 күн бұрын
Lots of cognitive dissonance
@stefanzoppi834 күн бұрын
Disingenuous beyond believe
@boogama13 күн бұрын
Dude this guy is as hard headed as it gets. Just won't be convinced of anything against what he already believes, it's infuriating to listen to
@dtybur104 күн бұрын
Never idolize another human being! My personal affinity for Winston Churchill, is an empirical example.. I still think Churchill is an exemplar of bravery, and intellect, however, he is not the savior of 'the good guys' that I once believed. The narratives that we are all told to believe without question, are rife with human infallability, and potential for malice/self service.
@merfymac6 күн бұрын
If only Noam was consistent with the standard of truth / accuracy to the folks at NYT or CNN. Because it’s a GOOD standard if universal - but a recipe for terrible bias if one lets one group fall short and/or only holds ‘dissenters’ to account.
@kiswindsidaguigma92616 күн бұрын
Noam should do more research on psychological warfare operations( PSyop). Anyone who ever serve in the military know what is PSyop. Finding people in a foreign country to conduct mass protest is Spyop course 101. You just need to find credible social or political leaders who are opposed to the government, align your goals with their vision, and provide them enough financial and materials supports, and communication training to conduct their activities. That it.
@Dmoney1773 күн бұрын
35:17 noam:we are running out of time Me: running time says 1 hour 10 min left 😂
@ad57927 күн бұрын
Almost impossible job for Scott, to get through such and indispensable and exceptional hypocrite!
@flickoff18726 күн бұрын
Body language says alot here. One able to maintain eye contact the other unable to prevent his eyes darting anywhere else but at the camera/screen
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
This is the gayest thing I've ever read.
@flickoff18726 күн бұрын
@kswindl my comment was obviously about honesty and dishonesty in body language. Your insertion of homosexuality implies you are projecting sir.
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
@@flickoff1872 Pause - you lookin at men's bodies?
@ericwedin41543 күн бұрын
Read Scott’s book and make your mind up, this interviewer appear biased and slightly intellectually dishonest.
@anthonyrluna3056Күн бұрын
Slightly?
@jdg999918 сағат бұрын
Would the million people you could get out on the streets of Washington DC be representative of Americans as a whole? So the million in Kiev that supported Maidan mean nothing as far as its real popularity.
@ThvonS6 күн бұрын
If you invite a knowledgeable and informed guest with well-documented facts, at least be kind and don't subject him to countless interruptions.
@newhousemaybe2 күн бұрын
Scott Horton educates a lamen....
@newhousemaybe2 күн бұрын
Lamen learns nothing... garbage
@newhousemaybe2 күн бұрын
And muting your host's comments is quite a garbage foundation...
@bogeyb2002 күн бұрын
I think the Germans would have prevailed on Western Front after knocking Russia out of the war and getting all the massive benefits (in terms of food and production) of Brest Litovsk
@ДенисВиноградов-г7ч3 күн бұрын
V. Nuland's "fuck the EU" part of her conversation with Piett. Isn't it a reason enough to be sure that the talk wasn't about discussing agreement with Yanukovitch?
@Samuel-vw2wy7 күн бұрын
See if you can host a discussion between Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, and Avi Shlaim, the living new historians.
@bryanwagner2897 күн бұрын
That would be epic
@mattkelly20043 күн бұрын
I think that the Ukraine situation is sad, dangerous situation that could really rearrange the world if we are not thoughtful in our moves and counter moves. Ukraine deserves freedom but that old saying says it best "you're enemy also has a vote" so I don't see a clear, or easy path either way, I see a lot of fighting either way
@Goodfellow60822 күн бұрын
Ukraine gonna get theur freedom .. from west and usa
@steveaksel6 күн бұрын
Dishonest Interview - Every Single Time
@2345piratesurfin5 күн бұрын
This man brought on a medical doctor who saw bullets in the heads of kids in Gaza and tried to tell him he was making things up. He is not a good person
@andileyenana53757 күн бұрын
Need proof, when the other truth hits you squarely in your face.... interruptions orchestrated so your team can pump your side videos, clips..... destruction tactics galoure.
@hotpotato33116 күн бұрын
I had to laugh at the "proof" part. Visit the websites of the biggest NGOs in Georgia and they show it there that they are funded by the West and their talking points is completely in line what the Western politicians are saying. But somehow, they have NOTHING TO DO with the protests. A country that staged a shit ton of coups all around the world WOULD NEVER USE SOFT POWER TO TOPPLE GOVERNMENTS. I mean... Holy fuck... Thats beyond delusional.
@samengland37297 күн бұрын
Scott Horton dwarfs Noam intellectually. Watching this interview is like watching Mike Tyson fight my mother in law
@jamesshepherd5557 күн бұрын
Watch it Scott, Hillary throwing the weight of her gigantic stomach around joining forces with Vicki's gigantic stomach would be no match for you pal !!!
@joge24687 күн бұрын
100% correct on timelines. It’s just 20/20 hindsight. You choose the events that you can argue are causally related to those that follow.
@kswindl6 күн бұрын
True Appeasement has never been tried!
@SuperMayhem81Күн бұрын
Noam invokes Kissinger to prove his point. How pathetic and scary and telling is that?!
@vaasdaas95875 күн бұрын
Noam is not telling the truth, because Katchanovski said in the Nonzero interview that Maidan was false flag operation, so Noam just cherry picking one quote is really dishonest.
@joge24687 күн бұрын
I’m not sure what litigating the causes of WWII has to do with Ukraine/Russia now, but whatever. I’m a decently bright person, and I don’t understand either the “no wwii, no hcaust” argument, which so many actual historians (as opposed to Pat Buchanan) have rebutted, nor the point in arguing it. I’m afraid we’re missing the forest for the trees: Why is questioning who the malevolent actors were in WWII and the veracity of the Hcaust part of the _current_ zeitgeist? What is going on culturally?
@pauloalex48997 күн бұрын
Well, as for the Hcaust thing, I have a hunch. People are starting to question whether it really happened because the jewish state of Israel for the past almost 80 years has been doing to other people what was allegedly done to them during WWII. They have occupied palestinian territories for 57 years, thrown palestinians into ghettos (just like jews in Poland), treated them as second-class citizens in their own land, forcibly sterilized ethiopian immigrants (or "strongly suggested that they sterilize themselves," as israeli media reported), among other things comparable to what the germans did. Plus, in many countries, even questioning the veracity of the Hcaust is severely punished. Just to be clear, I believe the Hcaust happened and that it was an abomination against humanity, but the jews themselves, especially the israelis, are not helping their case.
@joge24687 күн бұрын
@ Can you explain where there are ghettos and how they’re treated as second class citizens? I’m also confused about the Ethiopian sterilization stuff. It doesn’t really make sense. Why would Izzz airlift them home and then sterilize them? They could have just left them in Africa. My understanding is that there was zero evidence for any state-run sterilization program, but that it was likely _some_ women didn’t fully understand what they were being given.
@pauloalex48997 күн бұрын
@@joge2468 Just look at how plestinians are treated in Israeli-occupied west bank cities like Hebron and Bethlehem. While jewish settlers are free to roam the occupied west bank without any hindrance, palestinians are forbidden from walking, driving, and opening businesses on certain streets, there are gated communities exclusively for jews, palestinians have to pass through numerous IDF checkpoints, and are often arrested at these checkpoints, expelled from their own lands by jewish settlers, etc.
@pauloalex48997 күн бұрын
@@joge2468 Regarding forced sterilizations of immigrants, there is evidence that israeli clinics forced ethiopian immigrants to take contraceptives, and this is evidenced, among other things, by the rapid decline in the birth rate of these immigrants. Why would Israel do this? I don't know, maybe for the same reason the germans did it to them? They learned from the best.
@samengland37297 күн бұрын
The h-cost was at the end of the war . When Germany was getting pounded by the allies. So the argument was that it wouldn't have happened if the war didn't happen , seeing as how it happened at the back end of a war in which they were being soundly defeated.
@BigD_OntheLine6 күн бұрын
Why not have on Victoria Nuland? Clear up some claims
@jthes1128Күн бұрын
Scott, please talk with rubio.
@Gtmt2815Күн бұрын
"No War, No Holocaust"? 22:30 WTF are you talking about, Scott?
@55jamy4 күн бұрын
incredibly annoying host on this. Interupting all the way. (and a guy said: )And almost like this guy is Nulands good guy ?
@ysteinvingerjohanssen25886 күн бұрын
Good show
@pauliwoolw58097 күн бұрын
It’s absurd how u try&wrangle your guests 2trash Candace! Stop being a baby&invite Candace on 2defend her own positions.
@comedycellarclips7 күн бұрын
It's not absurd. Any camp that includes her as a member in good standing, cannot complain about bigotry or lies in others. Why would any decent person have the slightest problem acknowledging that what she's saying runs from insane to pure uncut anti-semitism?
@XxTheBrucesterxX7 күн бұрын
Its actually the bare minimum
@AnaS-Wats6 күн бұрын
And the same applies to having Ann Coulter, who is most certainly bigoted. Just towards us colored people. I know that matters less somehow to you, but selective outrage is always weird. You don't see us whining about why you interviewed her.
@popiedo4 күн бұрын
Go Scott. 39 mins in.
@cdbarry6 күн бұрын
You’re a comedy club I don’t wanna see this shit from you, post stand up. It’s literally your business
@garytarbellКүн бұрын
Never heard of this podcast or the host, and his name isn't listed anywhere. I've followed Scott forever and he cleans this guy's clock as usual and expected. But whoever this host is, he reveals that he is on an email basis with Robert Reich. That should be all anyone needs to know about his opinions or insights. But of course, Reich wouldn't dare to go toe to toe with any of the libertarian giants like Horton on foreign policy and FOR SURE refuses to face up to any of the ACTUAL economists from the Austrian school. And if this host's go-to source for consult on any topic is the likes of Reich, I can see why I've never heard of him. He thought he was going to get in a jab. Waste of breath.
@Hello.Sailor6 күн бұрын
Scott Horton, greatest sophist of his age
@Trenl77 күн бұрын
There's a difference between speaking logically vs. Not having any evidence for what he says about why people do things (psychology) when you HAve no evidence and are swept away by actual experts' just so stories-he is a lot of just stories hot air.
@gskills557 күн бұрын
Gotta love Scott - "what the fuck Noam you're just gonna play clips of other people and expect me to answer for them!?.... and also I do agree with everything they said and their audiences make up 99.9% of my book sales so Candace and Tucker if you're listening to this please read my book... But yeah so bad faith Noam jeez"
@plonialmoni19486 күн бұрын
I watched this guy intentionally lie on TimcastIRL claiming that Menachem Begin was talking about Arabs when he quoted from his book that “the people of the Bible have been living in that land the whole time” when he is clearly speaking about the Jews who lived (and suffered) under the Islamic boot for 1400 years. Scott knew the audience wouldn’t check and Scott knew that he was distorting the meaning of what was being said in the book. He so clearly and intentionally lies about many things so why would I believe him on anything he says? Waited your platform this week instead of hosting an interview with someone worth hearing.
@vaasdaas95875 күн бұрын
You are not telling the truth.
@jamesleet83307 күн бұрын
Major red flag for me that Horton tried to manipulate Churchill's "unnecessary war" quote in the same way that many unsavory characters do. Good job by Noam to call him out on it right away.
@NoMercyMike6267 күн бұрын
Another red flag is how much he hides behind "look at how many footnotes I have" builds trust and allows people to assume he's retelling these facts accurately, but I wonder how many quotes he manipulates and uses out of context to fit his narrative
@samengland37297 күн бұрын
there are multiple Churchill quotes referencing " the unnecessary war. Scott was referring to a different quote numb nuts
@comedycellarclips7 күн бұрын
No, there are not. He was referring to the one in Buchanan's book, which is the one I read. You are 100% wrong.
@marcchieppa96837 күн бұрын
Poor Scott
@ROBOTRIX_eu7 күн бұрын
@Trenl77 күн бұрын
He isn't a historian he is a Just So Story Bookseller
@spencerlane28717 күн бұрын
I find it fascinating that Scott, who never fails to boast about how he's such a knowledgeable expert about all this obscure, esoteric information and has such a great command of the facts, can't provide even a basic explanation about the Second World War or Winston Churchill--ya know, only one of the most important events and consequential human beings in human history. Has Scott never read a single book about WW2?
@EnigmaPeePee7 күн бұрын
Winston Churchill has several ”unnecessary war” quotes. And even being wrong on one account unrelated to this war doesn’t disprove his points. Even ChatGPT when pointed out the chronology up to the war proves a great proportion of what he is saying. Even I knew what he thinks to know before 2014 when Ukraine made a parlamentary coup both not following article 111 , not having enough votes to oust then current president that fled to eastern Ukraine that was pro Russia and less of a threat to his life. Only than did he flee to Russia. I can see a very clear buildup to the conflict from poroshenko waiting war against the autonomous peoples republics that Putin told no to annexation to Russia than; look up poroshenkos speech which led to Donetsk and Luhansk then cutting electricity, pensions and anything for people who had worked in Ukraine who just wanted independence from western Ukraine that committed a coup by not following the constitution . Also look for archived article of not only when azov told to Zelenskyy on camera to go pound dirt, that if he interfered they would hang him from a tree. Azov naturally inclined to being the spearhead against Easter Ukraine; because unlike non Nazis who considered them a part of Ukraine, they considered non Ukrainians due to ethnonstionalistic sentiments
@Lurch6857 күн бұрын
Maybe this wasn’t a discussion about WWII?
@Burnt_and_Glazed6 күн бұрын
He literally told ya that WWll is not his expertise tf you want him to say? Make shit up?
@ErinMagner826 күн бұрын
He's not an expert; General Wesley Clark completely refuted his entire thesis on Piers Morgan after Horton uses Clark as part of the justification for his narrative. He's just selling books that omit most of the narrative for people that want to support the GOP 2.0 and pretend it's redemption for Iraq and Afghanistan.
@searchingforsanity41706 күн бұрын
He doesn't speak French "coup", but he is fluent in German "Putsch". In English its revolution.
@NoMercyMike6267 күн бұрын
This guy spews every single Russian talking point there is
@marcchieppa96837 күн бұрын
Was "Iraq doesn't have WMDs" a Saddam talking point?
@Finallymademyaccount7 күн бұрын
"Iraq doesn't have WMDs" wasn't an Iraqi generated talking point. Russian generated talking points include: "Ukraine is run by Nazis", "Crimea voted to be a part of Russia", "The Maidan Revolution was the result of US intervention", etc. There was active disagreement from good faith parties over the WMDs in Iraq in 2003. In 2024, only bad faith actors perpetuate the Russian generated talking points. There is too much verifiable, 3rd party information debunking them. If this explanation doesn't move the needle for you, what information would be required to do so?
@hyperbeast1347 күн бұрын
@@Finallymademyaccounthahahah good faith? your hilarious bro
@BeachVolleyB7 күн бұрын
This is a logical fallacy. Even if they were all Russian talking points, it doesn’t make them wrong.
@Finallymademyaccount7 күн бұрын
@@BeachVolleyB I agree. However, when someone's argument consistently overweights the value of one country's propaganda, it indicates an overall bias. OP is making the point that Horton's arguments are consistently made up of talking points originating from Russia. I expect OP's implication was that Russia has a track record of promoting blatantly false information, as determined from 3rd party analysis. There is also plenty of discourse online, such as Horton's debates with Ferguson & Clark, which debunk the individual claims made. As such, constructing one's arguments with information which is known to be untrustworthy is worth calling out. There was dissent in 2003 in America about whether WMDs were in Iraq. The government was wrong to make that their official stance, and people are free in America to point that out. The same reflection does not take place in Russia.
@hammerhead23627 күн бұрын
What a clown
@tertiusduplessis25817 күн бұрын
BRICS loves scotty! Go my boy....write more 'factual' books. People believe what they read.
@IliyaOsnovikov6 күн бұрын
Can you show anything wrong in that book? BTW, Putin also says that Sun rises in the East. What would you say?
@tertiusduplessis25816 күн бұрын
@IliyaOsnovikov you must write a book too. More truth...maybe everybody must write a book! That will be the end of bs.
@TheCruxy7 күн бұрын
Waaaaa what about these other peoples words
@empatheticrationalist6 күн бұрын
Dang, this type of guest always makes me the saddest. You know right away from his quick anger and using quotes that he's not going to be good faith. Then on top of it he's so adamant and non-responsive and turns out to be mentally unstable so can't even really revel in him embarrassing himself. I feel like the 2 people that come on here and preach Jew hate/communism advocates always fall into 2 camps: The mentally unwell (The Norm Finklestein type), and the grifter (Aaron Mate/Cenk Uygur type). Once in a blue moon you have a good faith debater and it's such a joy to listen to, but watching these mentally unstable/grifter people get filthy rich off Jew hate is just so depressing.
@SThrillz5 күн бұрын
The frustration comes with talking to people who pretend like they don't know what you are talking about but at the same time pretend they understand what you are talking about. The host acts like Russia hasn't been invaded from the west and expects Russians to sit back and pick their nose and do nothing as NATO expands to it's borders. The only army you can consider defensive it's the army without capabilities to attack you. NATO has the capabilities to attack Russia so all the nonsense about it being defensive, the Russians don't care and would be idiots if they did, it doesn't even make any sense that anyone would expect the Russians to ignore NATO expansion but most people are aware of the agenda which is to attack Russia so in the meantime they have to act stupid and that's where the frustration comes in because Russia is nuclear armed. All the elites will be fine in their bunkers and rule over the plebs in whichever world is left and you try to make people understand and it's like talking to a wall.
@empatheticrationalist5 күн бұрын
@@SThrillz That's so interesting. I totally agreed with your first paragraph, but thought you were talking about the guest. I guess it's really all just POV and everyone putting out media is mostly doing it for attention. Thanks for making me aware of that. Hopefully in the future we can see more good faith debates with productive outcomes!
@SThrillz5 күн бұрын
@@empatheticrationalist well Scott Horton has been doing this for decades, and the host is nitpicking on things not really relevant to the conversation. The US was involved in getting the government out...that's a coup, the host doesn't argue against the part of US involvement he just doesn't want to call it a coup and that's what I mean by the first paragraph. I know why the host doesn't consider it a coup but he won't say it himself. Guys like him see US involvement in other governments as legitimate they don't see it as a problem they see it as a solution but they know they can't say that.
@empatheticrationalist4 күн бұрын
@@SThrillz I think if actually asked, Noam (the host) would say he doesn't really care about that OR would admit that he disagrees. Listen to any of hundres of previous interviews. He always clearly states his positions when asked. Scott just recites the same stuff over and over, and it's not that he's wrong at all, he's just not listening. Then for whatever reason, either being too placating (tons of compliments) for fear of upsetting Scott or whatever his motivations are I couldn't tell you, it derails the whole conversation. I don't think Scott answers a single question the entire interview, just starts screaming the same things he said a moment before but louder. I'm not blaming him at all, it could just be a response to Noam not properly interviewing, hard to say since it just seems like a major mismatch. Noam definitely drops the ball on the Ukraine stuff, but Scott saying "I've never heard that", everytime he doesn't want to talk about something is also infuriating. Claiming that Israel wasn't actually founded by Jews, but rather as a safe land for pedos is insanely unhinged. The fact that Scott can't acknowled that is a huge red flag, the fact that Noam can't just say he supports American intervention is also a huge red flag. Bad pairing with one side being hateful and the other being arrogant.
@SThrillz3 күн бұрын
@@empatheticrationalist you seem to have strong aversion against people who work independently most of these people are aggressively thorough with their work and they always have reference to their work unlike the people you will consider "mentally stable" who only have to spew the narrative. Scott's book is a pushback against the narrative that the war in Ukraine was "Unprovoked" as it is generally presented in the media that those at the pinnacle of the power structure were aware that the consistent expansion of NATO was a problem for Russia, they aware that at certain point it was inevitable that Russia would respond. Scott Horton goes into intricate detail of the entire history to give the reader the information so they can get a better understanding an understanding of the conflict people are intentionally denied so you can say he's mentally unstable if you want but at the end of the day you have a more expansive understanding of the war than you'll ever have from all the mentally stable journalists who say it was unprovoked.
@Jilke19897 күн бұрын
Scott please get some sleep, healthy food and go outside!!! I've known about you for 1 week now, you have aged 10 years in 7 days. when was the last time you saw sunlight?
@nesties66 күн бұрын
Thanks for pushing back on Scott. It seems like these “realists” start at their conclusion and fill in only items that support their claim, disregarding anything that doesn’t fit
@vaasdaas95875 күн бұрын
Projecting much aren't you? Refute any claim Horton made.
@nesties62 күн бұрын
So there’s so much there. Let’s start with Crimea. Is that Russian or Ukrainian. Think that will determine where your head’s at.
@markymark84515 күн бұрын
what podcast is this!? 🤦🏻♂️🤮
@sek3ymisek3ymi4 күн бұрын
Scott said “ no I forbid it “ what a gigantic clown. Scott is a traitor and is definitely taking that Russian money. A real traitor.
@mavssami414 күн бұрын
What a lazy and out of touch comment
@rubensano48604 күн бұрын
Definitely? That's a bold claim. Now for your proof.
@cydaddyvideos80612 күн бұрын
Such a stupid take
@jdg999917 сағат бұрын
You're a clown
@user-sx4cz5yc4f7 күн бұрын
atrocious guest
@user-sx4cz5yc4f7 күн бұрын
your guest supports Max Blumenthal and his lies and repeats after them which really says it all.