Comfort Vs Speed | GCN Tech Show 336

[@gcntech]

Comfort of speed... what do you prioritise? 🤔

[@oplkfdhgk]

just got my new pair of 2 inch wide touring tires so i think comfort probably. 😀

[@gcntech]

@@oplkfdhgk But on a tour you'll save time not having to fix punctures... so is that speed 😉

[@glensainsbury428]

Could it be, comfort = speed?

[@oplkfdhgk]

@@gcntech not really but to be fair these tires do have better rolling resistance than my old tires. I think they save around 20w so that's pretty huge. 🙂

[@gcntech]

@@glensainsbury428 🤯

[@nerigarcia7116]

I used to be about speed even at the sacrifice of comfort. But as I've gotten older and I'm not as fast as I used to be, nor was I ever that fast, I've focused more on comfort to the point where I've gotten rid of my race bikes, but one, and have gone to more all-road setups for all my bikes. I'm not even concerned with the numbers anymore and just really go out and enjoy the ride itself, no longer killing myself to achieve a certain number. That was the difficult part, taking the competitive edge out of my cycling, and not wanting to try and hold the wheel or pass someone who passes me. I've come to the realization that I'm not that fast anymore, so just have fun getting out on the bike like I did when I was a kid. I've rediscoverd the joy in cycling.

[@pistonburner6448]

Soon you might come to your senses and progress to the point where you get rid of cycling altogether and practice far safer, healthier and more beneficial sports instead. Cycling draws us in, it draws me in too, but logically cycling makes no sense. It makes absolutely no sense and harms us. Especially now as adults in modern times with far better ways to get around and far better ways to do physical training/exercise.

[@stuartfreedman6854]

Two presenters who, when they first started were like two deer in the headlights. Great to see how far you two have come being comfortable on camera. Keep up the good work!

[@gcntech]

We love working with these two 🙌 Always fun

[@ebikescrapper3925]

Bike fit is the most important thing, even pros get a bike that fits

[@cruachan1191]

It definitely depends on what you want, but comfort is very important. One of the reasons I chose a gravel bike, other than its versatility, was the much less aggressive position, and I knew having ridden for a bit on an old MTB that my arms didn't like long rides on flat bars.

[@wayneclement7201]

Comfort is king. I think casual cyclists are put off by drop bars, touring bikes with drops are probably perfect for most people. I think the aero savings drops have over flat/riser bars are very underestimated by even experienced cyclists, you save so much wind resistance and gain a lot of speed for the same effort

[@brannmacfinnchad9056]

I agree so much. Also, much less torque on wrists and shoulders, at least for me.

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

Flat vs drop bars is a conscious decision connected to the type of riding a cyclist *would like to do*. It’s an expression of interest, not necessarily action. Cyclists probably know people who own expensive racing bikes used a few times a year between coffee shops. They also know others who own dilapidated touring bikes that are ridden like rented mules. So I don’t think there are any hard and fast rules imposed by handlebar shape. Indeed, even the riding posture isn’t fundamentally different for someone riding on the hoods or bar versus a flat bar with a drop. And if you’re pushing a lot of distance on a bike, the hoods and bars are probably where your hands are most of the time anyway.

[@davidmurphy9151]

It really depends on average speed - if yo are touring with a load at 16k sitting straight up is probably correct - once you get to 24k drops are way better.

[@gcntech]

Some riders will also be drawn to the sport because of aero looking superbikes. Maybe the endurance bike will make a comeback?

[@paulgrimshaw8334]

@@davidmurphy9151 Agreed. There’s no doubt what’s best for aero. Drops for sure.

[@hugobci]

Comfort is contextual. A dutch granny bike position will not be comfortable if you are aiming for speed, for example.

[@gcntech]

Really good point! These things go hand in hand, for a long ride the upright town bike might not be the best 👀

[@Andy_ATB]

If you want speed, you're unlikely to be buying a dutch bike, are you?

[@hugobci]

@@Andy_ATB I bet Conor or Hank would do a race in a dutch bike

[@a1white]

Always comfort. I have an (old) Endurance road bike and a hybrid. Different riding positions but both are comfy for me.

[@xtrailz]

How many people actually race their bikes? maybe 1 in 100 at most

[@richardharris8538]

Maybe more than you think. I don't belong to a club, but I often ride a time trial on my regular route. (I think that counts. 🤔 )

[@taufikabidin412]

Commuter cup is a thing

[@rnedisc]

I was looking into a new bike and also went for a bikefit because of neck pain. Adjusted my new bike to be way more confortable and I could suddenly also put way more power down, increased my FTP by 20watts or something. But I really wanted a canyon aeroad because it just looks so god damn good. Problem is for my size, acording to the bikefitter, the most relaxed position for an aeroad would be about the same as my bike before the bike fit. So a good position could probably also make you faster than a fast bike! Also seeing Milan in the giro, maybe a good idea for a GCN video, what's more important for speed. being aero or just pushing more power.

[@panjimoulana]

If Pogacar pink VR4 RS in the bike vault, I'll super nice it

[@davidparry1982]

I ride a new Moulton with 22 Campag gears full road oriented suspension, steel spaceframe and drops. I’m Very Comfortable and swift enough for most. Did the Etape Loch Ness a few weeks ago and was right in the middle of the bell curve as far as finishers - I’m pretty happy with that being a 53 year old leisure cyclist - oh and I can pop the bags on and go shopping or touring. Hand crafted in the UK and less than the average road bike these days. Ride the bike you like ❤️

[@DaigoroToyama]

I can totally relate to the "comfortable vs uncomfortable" difference. My first road bike was a tad bigger for me, and with changes like a shorter stem and short-reach handlebars, I was never really all that comfortable riding it. OTOH, I can ride my current one super comfortably. No saddle sour. No numb hands. No stiff shoulders. The difference is night and day, and as the result, I ride a LOT more now than before.

[@gcntech]

That's awesome! When you find a bike that fits you, it feels so good 👌

[@a1white]

Cycle[.]travel route mapping does excellent nighttime route planning, which avoids unlit parks and paths at night, while still trying to find the safest routes. I’d recommend that

[@kylixchi]

Like having Mannon back on the Show!!

[@cb6866]

Thanks Alex , Manon and crew.....comfort = more time in the saddle ?

[@gcntech]

More time in the saddle =.more fun 🙌

[@cb6866]

@@gcntech equilateral theory of cycling

[@mileslong9675]

I opt for comfort, mainly because I go for long rides, often on gravel. (Also, because I’m 72 YO, and not looking to break any records.) My Specialized bike with flat bars, Future Shock front suspension and Kinetic seat post suspension, is a great combination for a century ride much of it on gravel.

[@draugmithrin]

Awesome!

[@gcntech]

Sounds like a great bike! 🙌

[@vo2maximus177]

I think to a large degree, that comfort/speed conundrum has been solved of late? I started racing in 1980, a good steel frame had a degree of comfort built-in, but we rode on 23mm tubs. Now in my mid-60s, some of my power has gone, but I'm running 30mm Tubeless on my Colnago C64 (just about getting away with it, no chainstay rub) and the ride is sublime. Rolling resistance is low, and the bike is fast! Part of that is being able to brake later because of Campag Disc brakes, also because cornering is faster and more sure-footed. I'll never be as fast as I used to be, but my bike has never felt faster.

[@PsyKeks]

Speed and comfort are exacly the benefits of recumbent bikes, by the way. You can have the ultimate in one of them or a much better compromise.

[@user-tp7cb3jo3y]

HellO GCN Folks Dave from Toronto again comfort vs speed is the perfect reason to follow the N+1 rule a different bike for different types of rides and different ride companions As for Tadae's pink bike; I've had a pink Colnago CX0AL since Aug. 2016 Pink gets attention and respect :) :)

[@Guesswhokk]

I can often overtake roadies with Hybrid + flat bar when setup correctly while maintaining high level of comfort while at a more aggressive riding position including tyre width, pressure + saddle position (saddle tilt more than 0 zero degree). Comfort will improve riding duration for longer for sure, but Road surface roughness also a factor for comfort vs distance. But speedy hybrid can only go at short burst like motorcycle vs F1 drag race vs distance, where roadie will win out eventually.

[@OllyKilo]

Endurance road with 35mm tyres is the sweet spot. Conti GP5000s happen to come in 35mm.

[@kevinblankenburg4816]

I do ride 2 different bikes. I do ride a Merida Speeder Hybrid and a BMC Gran Fondo. I have chosen both bikes because of comfort and the BMC is by far more comfortable although being a roadbike. The BMC is full carbon which is makes a huge difference in my opinion. I am 51 years old, I am not winning anything out there, but I do want to enjoy the time.

[@MTBSPD]

I've done several one or two day double centuries. I found I would get passed by the same riders over and over. They are fast on the bike, but we were doing the same average speed. I went on the ride to ride, not sit around at stops. I get enough stopped time at red lights in town.

[@gcntech]

Great point! Lots of ultra distance races are won and lost in the time off the bike 👀

[@Ruggine85]

I once built myself a Tron-bike with glow in the dark wheels (was on the app bike vault). To make my wheels actually glow I had to create two ultraviolet led activators integrated into my frame and soldered to batteries and a switch. It was a super fun project for winter, bottom line is: glow in the dark glows for very little time and only if activated by proper light. I wonder how/if they addressed this issue

[@erlendsteren9466]

I am a sweetspotter, and have downgraded my 11 speed fullsuspension gravelbike with 45 mm tyres to a 22 speed roadracingmachine with 38mm tyres. Those big gears(46/30-11/34) and skinny 38 tyre is fast and fun on asphalt, but doesnt feel so good on loose gravel as the 45 tyres. 56mm tyres on the mtb is even better when its loose gravel. I go this summer with this 38 mm roadsetup, but probably upgrades to bigger tyres when I wear out the 38mm.

[@maximecounet2496]

We need a GCN Tech show solely talking about Manon's invention : the shortened-in-between-nice-and-super-nice-bell-ring !

[@OperationDarkside]

If I buy a new bike, that will be used in all weather conditions and mostly serves a utilitarian role, comfort is key. If I, however, traverse treacherous terrain (TTT), I don't want to slip off the side of the path, slipping wheels from loss of traction or take twice the duration home, because my comfortable seating position is as aero as a bavarian wardrobe.

[@Aussie_stu]

Nice Moonswatch Manon has been sporting

[@brandonallen7748]

speed is comfort, getting dropped is uncomfortable

[@gcntech]

Hahaha unless you have a buddy to get dropped with 🤣

[@gavinm717gkm]

It also makes me very uncomfortable getting passed.

[@neilmdon]

n + 1 … I def realized that a super aero super bike would be both fun and practical when I was in drop rides experiencing the name of the ride. The extra few percent that prevents someone riding me off their wheel is well worth the eye watering cash outlay.

[@manchesterriderz445]

If you’re getting dropped that’s down to you not the bike.

[@PsyKeks]

Also riding faster means arriving sooner, less time in the saddle to get uncomfortable. 😆

[@alanharpdesign]

If you get your frame powder coated, glow-in-the-dark clear coat exists. My frame was powder coated chartreuse with a glow-in-the-dark clear and it definitely works!

[@Daniel-yf9iy]

“The bike you WANT vs the bike you NEED.” I agree, comfort is important for most of us. It seems like a lot of people buy a bike and only end up riding it a couple times then put it away and then the bike starts collecting dust and If it’s not relatively comfortable they’re REALLY not going to ride it.

[@billlane7486]

I don't race so comfort in positioning but a nice, what you'd probably call speed, bike is my choice. But then as the main pick points of my current bike were the Di2 gears and colour everything is just 'happens to be there' rather than a choice.

[@michaellynch1132]

I would never buy a crowd funded bike, however, I would seriously consider having some kind of glow strips that I could place on my bike that were unobtrusive during the day but had a seatpost or handlebar battery that would make the bike mostly glowy at night. Anything that would make me super vis in the US would increase my safety.

[@mommamooney]

I got an endurance bike because I’m interested in exploring by bike rather than winning races, so comfort is key to me

[@gcntech]

We love this! Cycling isn't all about racing your bike and going fast... sometimes it's just about exploring 🙌

[@gregmuon]

I think in the long run, even recreational cyclists are better off training their bodies to get accustomed to a semi race position. Upright bikes in my experience are pretty painful after an hour, but I can ride a drop bar bike all day. It's important to remember it's not just the bike, it's also you. Anyhow, I raced as a youth and only valued speed. Nowadays I'm much older and I'm somewhere in between.

[@jacksonbangs6603]

I prioritize comfort over speed because I am training up to do a double century in less than 24 hours.

[@mattimeo117]

Im going bikepacking from Dieppe to Paris and back next week, and am firmly in the mindset of comfort, even forcing myself to go slower and in a lower heart rate zone in my practice rides to make sure I can ride for several hours with all my bags :)

[@gcntech]

You're going to love it! Great riding around there 👌 Have you been putting the time in on your setup?

[@mattimeo117]

@gcntech I've done some practice rides with some of the bags on, today I'm riding to Newhaven harbour with everything to test the set up and the time it takes getting there compared to usual. Wish me and my poor entry Bontrager wheels luck

[@renegadetenor]

I'm quite comfy with my setup, but can still get significantly aero when necessary, and it really makes a difference. I do not feel slow. And I'm getting fairly old..

[@dimrub]

A glowberry I recall makes appearence in a very old computer game called "Legend of Kyrandia" ( - 2, I think). A glow in the dark bike is the cycling equivalent of a car with underglow and oversized bass speakers (in other words, it's obnoxious). Yes, despite the apparent safety effect. It works both ways: you notice it alright, but then you want to smash it.

[@sammurrie8374]

I just recently bought some aero bars, not for speed, but for comfort. I have been training for endurance, and my hands started to hurt after long hours on the bike.

[@robertkeefer1552]

I love my MET Rivale helmet.

[@gcntech]

Good choice! 👌

[@JamesAnderson123]

@gcntech in MTB we have seen seat angles getting steeper in recent years and the reach on frames longer. I understand that this puts a rider in a better position in relation to the cranks to open the hip angle and make pedalling easier/more natural. Do you think we’ll see anything similar in road bike geometry?

[@BikeAllDayNYC]

For a casual rider, I prefer comfort that can do century miles over speed that gets you tired around half century miles distance.

[@MatthewMabborang]

I have to admit, I need to go under bike fitting to not compromise both comfort and speed regardless on daily commute-exercise, long rides on weekends and bikepacking trips. 🥺 The balance or as what Manon and Alex said “sweet spot” is the key not only on body position, but also on clothing and weights (if you have a bagpack or a pannier bags) to commute or for leisure trips

[@MatthewMabborang]

If I may add, I started checking on the frame size and saddle height (including the saddle too) especially I’m using both gravel fat bike, road and mountain bike.

[@cfalkner1012]

The only way to have speed over distance is if you’re comfortable. You can’t swap ‘speed’ and ‘comfort’ in that sentence, therefore comfort is more important.

[@gcntech]

Great point! Over a long distance, comfort is speed 👌

[@bobzuidema3560]

I was always skeptical about Yoga/stretching or uhm I just wasn't into it tbh but since a month or two I follow an app called Dynamic Cyclist and that really helped me to sit better on my bike getting lower than before is my standard now. I am now comfortable and more aero as well; win win! Highly recommend it! In regards of equipment I would go for wider tyres, I run 32mm now and also in this case more comfort and for most increased speed as well!

[@sherab2078]

I would prioritise comfort over speed, but those don't have to be contradictory things. If someone has enough flexibility for a race bike, then with proper saddle and bike fitting one can probably feel quite comfortable. So I would say 'choose to be faster as long as you are still comfortable'.

[@williamcairns7842]

Comfort always before speed, but I like very long rides. An uncomfortable setup means you wont finish the ride.

[@songofyesterday]

I go for looks, then speed, then comfort as long as it won’t be uncomfortable after 30 minutes. Only so much time in the day to ride with two kids.

[@homesetup6339]

Love Alex’s pronunciation of Stromm

[@homerunhomeshow7201]

I find my bike - a DeRosa 838 carbon frame road bike, extremely comfortable in the sense that I can ride it for hours and not feel like I've contorted my body to fit my machine. The frame size and geometry fit me perfectly, so I feel I have attained the ideal blend of comfort and speed with this bike. I once had an orthopedic doctor tell me that I shouldn't be hunched over when riding a bike because its bad for my back, that I should be more upright if I enjoyed cycling. What he didn't get, as a non cyclist, is that my riding position (and that was almost 20 years ago) is not hunched over. It is more the opposite, like that of a suspension bridge, where my back slopes in a more relaxed position, and I have very little pressure felt in my back at all. In this case, it is very comfortable.

[@gcntech]

there is nothing quite like that perfect fitting bike!

[@FreddyEnergizer]

good timing with the helmet , I was not able to find one on the GCN shop so I made a big order at GCN and got a helmet elsewhere about 9 hours ago. darn Murphy's L :P

[@carlyuen4360]

Recorded my Walk on Strava - forgot to pause it and flew from Frankfurt to Hong Kong! at least 1600 miles in 12 hours!

[@jamiefarrell6496]

The holy grail: comfort at speed

[@gcntech]

Have you found it? 👀

[@jamiefarrell6496]

Crux is close…wondering if I should try an Ostro VAM next, to compare and contrast… 🤭

[@DMurdock]

Recumbent.

[@65Swede]

Comfort is king! Now that the average 105 level bike costs $5000+ how about reviewing Tiagra and Apex groupsets.

[@GCNalex]

This is a great suggestion, they are almost the forgotten components

[@jaydicenso]

I prioritize comfort by riding a race bike with a slammed 130mm stem. The faster I can complete my ride, the faster I get back to the couch, which is more comfortable than any saddle. (Not a recommendation)

[@scottbradbury4094]

For longer rides, I choose my endurance bike, a Trek Domane. For shorter rides that I where I want to look cool, my Madone shines. At 61, I just love to ride, not race.

[@Bukoe]

As I started biking in triathlon short distance my focus was 100% speed. But over the years I moved to the full ironman distance where comfort ended up faster.. Now I stopped that shit and only do biking now.. The last 4 years of only Road biking I have moved from speed to comfort again.. And now I do all my riding and Racing on a Gravel bike where I just swap out the weel set.. As soon as I ride for more than 4 hours my gravel bike is faster as I am still comfortable on it where my pure road bike my power totaly fall off after a couple hours of riding as my hands and ass getting 90% of my attention ..

[@user-ws2jw6wg7f]

On what bike to choose, perhaps most bike purchases are emotionally driven rather than practically based 😮

[@cycleistic1365]

12:30 How about fully retro reflective bike, like in traffic signs or road paintings? Shines back in the eyes of motorists with too bright head lights right there. Glow-in-the-dark is just a gimmick visibility wise, you need to expose it to light bright enough for a while and the glow fades out gradually, soon enough to no impress. Yeah funny, but what's the point? Not visibility for safety at least. Retro reflective coating could be also tinted to ghostly green and many other colors for variety.

[@brannmacfinnchad9056]

21:50 That is /not/ a nice brick wall. That is a brick wall which is spalling fairly badly, due to re-pointing with a harder modern mortar, and will need quite a bit of work done.

[@easternbrown]

Comfort is watching GCN on the sofa

[@gcntech]

You never know it might make you faster 😉

[@Bike4Coffee-Cake]

#askgcntech: I’m currently riding 32mm (tubeless) tyres, and loving the way they smooth out the terrible U.K. roads/lanes/tracks where I live, and am thinking of getting some new wheels to match. However, I’m aware of the 105% rule for aero gains, and can’t find any wheels that are optimised for, or claim aero benefits for use with anything that measures bigger than 30mm. Are there any wheels proven to deliver aero benefits for tyres that measure 32mm+? Or should I just save money and get light-weight wheels?

[@Mr.NotImportant-qu5rx]

Comfort over speed. I enjoy cycling and not pain or going fast.

[@gcntech]

That's fair! Cycling is all about finding what works for you 🙌

[@DMurdock]

My personal rule is that if there's anything that will force me to get out of the saddle (steep climbs, fast traffic), I will prefer drop bars.

[@janwillemkuilenburg7561]

For me speed over comfort and accept + ultimately get used to effects. In the long run the body adapts and can take much more than people think. This is often overlooked in content on bikefitting.

[@renegadetenor]

Let's just put a pink little basket on the front while we're at it!

[@davidofoakland2363]

If one can plot the desired comfort curve and the desired speed curve on the same graph, where the two lines intersect, that's your optimum set-up.

[@gcntech]

very good point!

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Comfort is king for the casual rider. Riding in pain, or being in pain after a ride is no fun and will reduce the amount of time in the saddle.

[@neilmdon]

many years ago I crashed during a grand fondo and Strava flagged my ride with a “you may have been riding in a vehicle” message - the medics tossed my bike into the ambulance with me lol

[@gcntech]

we've seen rides in aeroplanes on Strava too!

[@williambeck8330]

Comfort. At 70 I have no speed.

[@gcntech]

as long as you are loving it, all is good in this world!

[@keithwilkerson7519]

I added a 50/34 Tiagra to a Trek FX3 to balance comfort and speed.

[@gcntech]

Nice one! Are you enjoying the bike?

[@keithwilkerson7519]

@@gcntech Perfect balance. I wouldn't have been satisfied with the 40T.

[@CoresMusic]

A common theme I’ve noticed with a lot of bike journalists is the black and white distinction between “racers” and “everyone else”. Theme being “if you’re a racer then do X”; “if you’re just trying to have fun on a bike do Y”. I think this misses the point for a lot of people. Just because you don’t have the capabilities of a world tour pro, it doesn’t mean you don’t have the mentality of one. A 10 second saving might still feel like life or death to you. I’m never gonna be a successful racer, but I’m hungry and competitive and I care enough to put myself through whatever level of discomfort required to beat my time on a particular route etc. It feels important. Same with tech. If I know a particular set of wheels is 2 seconds faster than another set, I’d spend the extra £500 if I had it. I couldn’t live with knowing I’d left something on the table. I’m sure I’m not alone in this, so I think it should be considered. That’s real world human nature vs hypothetical everyman takes. And also, trainers are more comfortable than high-heels, but life isn’t just about practicalities. I’d NEVER buy an endurance geometry bike because they look HIDEOUS to me 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@darrylhuculak4996]

Someone needs to bring Jon Cannings in to give some Bike Vault Bell Ringing training. Oh, those were the glory days of yore (just ask Ollie).

[@narutodayo]

In all this discussion about bike comfort, what I'm not hearing is that if you're uncomfortable, start incorporating a daily stretching or yoga routine to improve your flexibility so that you can be both aero and comfortable. Manon said that she was uncomfortable in that aero position because of her hips -- why is the conclusion that the position is to be abandoned instead of to be accomodated via improved flexibility? Why doesn't GCN have Manon do yoga or whatever for a few months then send her back on that bike to see how much better she fares?

[@TheGreedX]

Comfort first people, after my morning/night ride earlier my lower back is literally killing me its now hard to stand and bending feels like falling with back pain lol

[@gcntech]

that doesn't sound great!

[@jonathankillen2827]

@gcntech Now the weather is warmer and the roads are drier where I live, I'm descending faster. I've noticed a "buzz" from my front wheel that starts around 35 mph until I back off pedalling. Not a major problem, I hardly ever hit that speed - but for the pros, do they have their wheels balanced after fitting a tyre (like garages do for cars with little weights). I've never seen this so am curious. Also how would running tubeless affect the balance of a wheel? I'm using non tubeless compatible rims with a latex inner tube and stock tyres that came with the bike. Wheel is true and I have through axles.

[@D2traveller]

Last year when Vittoria Bussi was preparing for her world hour record attempt, the armchair experts were busy critiquing her riding position - too upright they said, she needs to test this in the wind tunnel they said - Vittoria said nothing, just set a world record. Because the relatively comfortable position gave her more speed. Enough said

[@anthonypink55]

2 years ago I was lucky to get a money windfall. I have a Specialized bikeshop near me. I did some research and went for the Tarmac SL7 . I had some mad idea that it would make me faster. The bikeshop has complete bikefit kit, with video etc so i was confident all the measurements etc were correct. 2 hours on this bike is all I can stand , numb hands, tremendous neck ache. I wish I had selected the Roubaix . The learning from this is that at 68 years old, don't dream of being a 40 year old again. Think comfort if you are over 50!

[@gcntech]

Interesting! Would you ever consider getting rid of the bike and trading in for the Roubaix? 👀

[@anthonypink55]

@@gcntech yes, that will have to be my next move

[@chrishayes121]

Can anybody else see the optical illusion of the rear triangle on the Orbea behind Alex? It looks like it’s on two different planes.

[@RikasCorner]

Mannon !! Your hairs very pretty

[@AndrewTabbel]

glow-in-the-dark bikes? I've seen them with matching wheels on Zwift.

[@Cycle.every.day.]

It's ok, 80% of your viewers have natural comfort, because they're all quite upright due to having a fair gut on them.

[@AlienLivesMatter]

Fast comfort is best compromised.

[@peterreece6547]

As I’m an old fart I need to have the handle bars higher than my seat. I find it painful when I ride my sons bikes. They both have a variety of off road bikes. 5 mins of riding them with my weight pressing down on the handlebars causes pain in my wrists and hands, O. arthritis is a B nusiance so my sit up and beg style bike allows me to carry on riding. Not fast but who cares.

[@overcookit1433]

Still speed, even now with soon being 51, but as I still have the flexibility in my back (and a flat belly), I can handle the tt-bar being about 21cm below the saddle (just as oldschool as I am🤗), just like a F1 car with extremely flat spoilers for only one purpose, the highest possible top speed. When I have reached my optimum condition in summer, I sometimes give myself another try, when the top speed on a certain descend is not as high as I did expect due to the weather conditions (or a car slowed me down I could not overtake due to oncoming traffic🙄). Only uphill it seems I will never ever be again as fast as 30 years ago, I can be glad if I have split times I had then with having catched a cold or bronchitis☹, or simply in winter. Actually I am more like a roller coaster, uphill rather slow, but downhill pretty fast. One other weird thing is, that my average speeds of winter has come closer to a marginal lower average speed in summer; about 25 years ago, I used to have around 27 km/h in winter and around 35-36 km/h in summer, now it is 32km/h to 34 km/h🤔.

[@draugmithrin]

Lost a fellow club member recently, he died in a solo crash on Dartmoor. Being too focused on speed and Strava segments can be lethal, as I get older I'm trying to resist going too fast downhill on our busy and often defective roads. My bike's set up for comfort and stability.

[@dwqdwwdwqdqwd2950]

i have a 110mm stem extender and i can bike 10h without my hands, neck, back or anything else hurting. It is comfortable but not fast.

[@brannmacfinnchad9056]

Resubmit that "Sexy ninja of a bike" following the Bike vault photo guidelines....or the same photo to GCN inspiration. Which we need back, @gcntech .

[@jahen65]

Think the recycling ♻️ is the best ever option 😊 but after being in the UK for 3 months I’m surprised to see how little is actually recycled in the UK 😢 Everywhere I looked there were only bins for either cardboard or just everything else in a big pile of trash 😢 You must be able to do better…

[@ltrtg13]

Manon. I thought this was tas the GCN Tech channel. Not the GMBN Tech channel. Hunt do wheels. Privateer do mountain bikes. I proritise comfort over speed. Which is why I bought Blake Samson's old bike and Pinkeye's cousin has 29x2.6 inch tyres. As for speed. Just rail the berms better.

[@Bike4Coffee-Cake]

I aim for the fastest position where I don’t ache/hurt. I also think I’m faster having a higher stack and using the drops / aero-hoods more, than having a slammed cockpit and riding 95% in the hoods…

[@draugmithrin]

Amazed at riders who don't use their drops, much prefer using drops when descending a steep technical hill.

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Is this hi tech bike diva a construct or a device or authentic?

[@celtexile]

Comfort first, at my age, including the comforting (wishful) assumption that my wheels are 75% recycled Guinness cans.

[@crobbw]

Speed is way down on my list, comfort and quality of the workout are always first and second

[@Thezuule1]

My rims have a 23mm external width and currently have 23mm tires on them. I've been thinking about going with a 28mm tire to save my rear end a bit I'm concerned the aero loss won't be worth it. Anyone in this situation? Would I be better off just sticking with a 25mm maybe?

[@gcntech]

Go for the wide tyres... you won't be disappointed 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-QdXuHdrqgfc0

[@draugmithrin]

I still like 25mm on the road bike, tried 28 and even 32, but nice 25's with TPU tubes work best for me.

[@Alex.R.Feyn.]

Maybe we need a video on "how to take a super nice-worthy picture of your bike". Then the bike vault can focus entirely on the bikes instead of the quality of the picture. 😅

[@oplkfdhgk]

9:45 so in other words they are using the same aluminum that everyone else is using because i think like 90% of aluminum is recycled. don't get me wrong it's still nice but i don't like it when companies try to say they are doing something special when they aren't but maybe aluminum wheels would benefit from stuff like this so maybe it's not bad? hard to say for sure.

[@feedbackzaloop]

Although 90% of aluminium is recycled, not 90% aluminium comes from recycling. World economy grows, demand for materials too. The real numbers are more around 70% mark depending on the grade - so Hunt are right in the bullpark here* - , but yes, we are dissing many common practices forgetting how actually good they are. So like most in marketing it's about image and message than facts. *cycling in general is very average about materials, tools and procedures compared to other industries

[@user-vu3ys5yh7j]

Do Hunts new wheels made from drink cans come in Lite version