Meanwhile in Japan, Hirohiko Araki was drawing Japanese David Bowie beating up a green midget.
@ThatFilmisGnarly3 жыл бұрын
Robs art gives me Fist of the North Star vibes.
@jerryrichards81723 жыл бұрын
Wth!
@heatsink473 жыл бұрын
For stealing his sandwich
@jg16923 жыл бұрын
@@heatsink47 I think he meant koichi
@pmalone46 жыл бұрын
It's funny that while they were recording this Rob Liefeld was already planning to leave Marvel and start Image.
@alexauclair13 жыл бұрын
31:09 this exchange aged incredibly.
@ProfessorKenneth8 ай бұрын
He was already at image. Youngblood was just around the corner.
@waira_atomic.coffinАй бұрын
@ProfessorKenneth Not only was Youngblood right around the corner, it should have already been out. Todd mentions in an episode of this show that Youngblood is doing incredible, and Rob agrees.
@TheRealGunfish7 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks shit now, but everyone ate that style up in the 90s.
@reviews2d776 жыл бұрын
TheRealGunfish true
@billyshity40455 жыл бұрын
sorry stay that's right everybody has bigger egos now
@Andrewflynn165 жыл бұрын
Stan still hated the tiny feet and X amount of unnecessary utility bags
@twistedkarm5 жыл бұрын
@@billyshity4045 back then they used to have bigger spikes and pockets in their suits. It was ninetystastic
@vikingman46143 жыл бұрын
Stan seems star struck by liefield in all the pictures and footage of them together Even if Stan hated the lack of feet
@ihategoogle60667 жыл бұрын
I never knew Jason Bourne drew comics
@Craigers86375 ай бұрын
He does look like Damom
@jamesrietveld25275 жыл бұрын
I remember him sitting next to me one time in church in my early college years scribbling all of these amazing figure on his church bulletin. He was pretty mild mannered and kick back--we went to the beach a few times and saw some movies with our group of friends, like seeing Space Balls. I remember when he came back from San Francisco and how excited he was--along with Tony Lobido and Todd Bruchert. He went in to marry one of my friends, Joy, and then we lost contact. I've recently got into Comic Book culture as in Superhero materials and suddenly I am seeing Rob everywhere. Love it and recollecting the era before he made his big break.
@nameredacted14484 жыл бұрын
What do you think about all the people making fun of him online
@roymakescomics2 жыл бұрын
@@nameredacted1448 personally, I think they're jealous and jaded.
@TheMastermind7292 жыл бұрын
You should check out his podcast
@teetoo3790 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMastermind729 agreed. One of the best podcasts on comics history.
@kurvos Жыл бұрын
@@roymakescomics No shit we're jealous he got to make official stuff for Marvel despite not being a competent artist.
@RadTrashed7 жыл бұрын
"We're gonna sell a bazillion commies." - Rob Liefeld, 1991
@davistalhone94827 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Liefeld look like he could be a Wahlberg?
@askittsutube7 жыл бұрын
Davis Talhone nice call
@bluebana22807 жыл бұрын
he wants Chris Pine to portray him in biopic about creation of Image Comics
@HughJNess-ly6er7 жыл бұрын
Matt Damon
@CCootauco6 жыл бұрын
Hey this is Robby Rob, welcome to the Comics Zone. *cue nineties special effects opening*
@bennyvermeulen72556 жыл бұрын
Davis Talhone thinking the same thing.
@artfan1018 жыл бұрын
say what you want about old Rob, but he comes off as a pretty humble and friendly guy. I'm not a huge fan of the EXTREEEEEEEEEEEM 90's style, but it was his niche for sure.
@TypicalTonk8 жыл бұрын
Liefeld humble? BWAH HA HA HAAAAA!
@mookixox8 жыл бұрын
The only reason people HATE him...is because they AINT him :)
@TypicalTonk8 жыл бұрын
+mookixox errr....No. Unless of couse their ambition is to be a talentless douchenozzle.
@justafanmarvel96697 жыл бұрын
Heretic yep I always thought the same thing that you said.. which is why at the time I went out of my way to try and support him as one of the founders of Image comics... but what I got in return was missed deadlines, stories that I couldn't follow, art that made no sense, and project after project of new startup characters and teams that all looked the same and had nothing to say.. it was exhausting. I tried to like his stuff cause I thought he was a cool guy... but he gave me nothing to work with. He wasn't the only one mind you there were a lot of others doing the same thing... but he was doing it Supreme.
@komatina99136 жыл бұрын
JOE SANCHEZ people hate him cause he isn’t a talented artist(in compereson to other artist that were paid much less)or a writer yet he’s rolling in cash.
@davelee60027 жыл бұрын
Every time I read or hear about Rob Liefeld, I'm just filled with overflowing inspiration. I realize there's no reason to doubt myself. Rob Liefeld is living proof that you can make it in comics on hard work and panache alone.
@spear4017 жыл бұрын
Dave Lee My thoughts exactly.
@kurvos Жыл бұрын
And without competent drawing skills, apparently.
@JB-zo7ln Жыл бұрын
Yes, Rob especially. But I also like Jim Lee's story about how he was on a path to becoming a psychiatrist and even went to med school when he suddenly realized how much talent and passion he had for comic art. The 90s X-Men he did were some of my personal favorites.
@davelee6002 Жыл бұрын
@@JB-zo7ln same, he was my primary inspiration in the early days. As someone who gave up on wanting to be a comic book artist and went premed -> mental health, but now dabbles in some freelance illustration, I can relate to him quite a bit!
@sampokemppainen3041 Жыл бұрын
You have to know how to draw thouugh.
@jayinri66586 жыл бұрын
"our creation".....aaahhh... such a stan lee thing to sayy
@alexisg75685 жыл бұрын
Lol
@slicksmokegaming98575 жыл бұрын
Love Stan Lee but a lets face it Marvel stole 90% of the artist work lol
@hercb43884 жыл бұрын
Slick Smoke how do you figure they got paid got credit and willingly gave up their work doesn’t sound like stealing to me.
@Tyler_Takahashi4 жыл бұрын
@@hercb4388 no they didn't. Not for a lonnnng time. By then it was wayyyy too late
@soldiersam74243 жыл бұрын
Always a businessman...and a damn good one.
@andiroidYT8 жыл бұрын
HE HAS THE SAME FACE AS ALL OF HIS 'CREATIONS'. Except without the extra layers of face muscle.
@lukosta26217 жыл бұрын
His character Shaft was based on him.
@boloisdaman6 жыл бұрын
Face needs more pouches :D
@DanielForrest3 жыл бұрын
finally someone else noticed!
@johnrussell34418 жыл бұрын
For a guy who was only 23 yrs. old hired by both Marvel and DC and faced a monthly audience , I would say He did pretty good ,plus Deadpool is a huge success . Working in Comics is a tough gig , for a young guy that was taking on alot of responsibility and his books were selling too .
@Pixxeria7 жыл бұрын
John Russell It's great for a 23 year old amateur. The problem is that they turned him into a 23 year old professional and he never got the chance to mature. Btw, the success of Deadpool doesn't have anything to do with him.
@johnrussell34417 жыл бұрын
Good point about the maturity aspect in his artwork , I'm sure he would have honed some skills working in indie comics a bit longer before approaching large companies . Btw , I thought Rob created Deadpool . Maybe it was Cable ..... or a bunch of other characters . Oh well , either way , great job for an unskilled amateur .
@slayertakim17 жыл бұрын
+John Russell He did make Deadpool but it was later writers that gave him the personality he has today instead of just being deathstroke
@johnrussell34417 жыл бұрын
One thing I do like about Rob Liefeld though , is that he really loves being in comics . I'd like to see him take a break from superheroes and team up with a Science Fiction writer to do more intergalactic stuff where his art style could really shine .
@justafanmarvel96697 жыл бұрын
John Russell the thought of what you are saying is beautiful compassionate and heartfelt... but the shortcomings of what he gave the consumers of the day was criminal. He comes off here as a young eager to please hardworking kid which made him likable and rallied support for his projects but what he have us for that support in return was substandard to say the least... go back and look at his early Image work, done at about the time of this video taping and you tell me if he was a talented artist, writer, publisher that has been unfairly criticized (for the work not for him as a person).
@smoke3y5703 жыл бұрын
R.I.P STAN LEE (we lost a great legend)
@spear4017 жыл бұрын
Personally, Rob's story is inspiring to me. He's a nice guy, and has his own recognizable style. He still does what he loves, even though other people don't like it. That's persistence and bravery in my eyes, and is what every artist should do.
@jasontodd95 жыл бұрын
Rob Liefeld is NOT a nice guy.
@IlyaKralinsky7 жыл бұрын
I know there's a lot of hate for Liefeld. I personally don't prefer his artwork. But I think what many people forget is that the people whose names we know are not the most talented always, but the most talented among those who are willing to do what it takes to achieve notoriety and success in their fields. Liefeld took what talent he did have and found a way to commodify it, plain and simple.
@ThatFilmisGnarly3 жыл бұрын
most of Rob's haters are people who cant draw, or people who've never gotten paid for their art. most of the hate is just jealousy (its people who say "i could do better", but have never actually done anything).
@thewholecity3 жыл бұрын
Yea he did. I think his talent was and is plain to see. His true gift was attuning to mainstream culture and creating innovative selling points. He broke the mould. He is an extraordinary artist.
@cameronward12752 жыл бұрын
This video really shows why so many people love and admire Stan Lee. He's such a kind, genuine and humble person, but he also knows when and where to poke fun, and not in a nasty way, he makes sure that everyone can laugh with him and that everyone is happy. Truly one of the best people on earth, up there with Bob Ross and Mr Rogers.
@manko88527 жыл бұрын
I love Rob's art, it's bizarre and different.
@schizogony5 жыл бұрын
It's truly epic.
@cameronward12752 жыл бұрын
It seems like there's a lot of people that dislike Rob because of his work, but he seems like a genuine man that really is trying his hardest to put the best work out there that he can, and he's just made a couple of mistakes that any "young" (or new) person in this industry would make
@mrpringle9479 Жыл бұрын
Very true he's very kind so it sucks to see him get bullied by everyone, even by his fellow artist at the time. Which suprised me since he looked like the stuck up kind of guy
@annchovie87484 жыл бұрын
Idc what anyone says. Liefield defined the 90s in comics. To make an entire era so identifiable is a talent in itself. Crazy edgy names like BLOODSTRIKE or DEATHBLADE or whatever and bulging muscles and huge guns. Say what you want but I'm very happy this era of comics exists
@soldiersam74243 жыл бұрын
Defined comics enough to make me stop buying them.
@mcj882 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, he did define comics in the 90s; but I would argue that said definition was not a _good_ one.
@rockon8174 Жыл бұрын
Pouches!!! Lots of pouches!!!
@educassiano7 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not comics expert, but one thing I've noticed is his grown up kid mentality for drawing... he envisions concepts and style like a 12 year old would. Maybe that's what made him famous and profitable.
@TheMutantCreeper4 жыл бұрын
I give Rob a lot of credit. He’s self taught and made it big. I also believe he got lucky because this was during Marvel’s rut. I’m self taught so if he can do it, I can too.
@maryz931910 ай бұрын
I believe in you!
@ProfessorKenneth7 ай бұрын
You can do it mate 👍🏻💯
@christiancampagna22294 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I had this entire series on VHS back in the early 90's. People give Liefeld a hard time, but years ago, at the conventions, he always took the time to look at my art and gave me sketches and stuff. Thanks for the good memories!
@dandy30825 жыл бұрын
People make fun of his style but i loved it as a kid.
@IGRETRO2 жыл бұрын
A great and a genuine person, amazing artist
@flaggerify5 жыл бұрын
Was just binge-watching these when the bad news came. RIP, Stan.
@questions98563 ай бұрын
These videos are such a vibe. I love watching these just for Stan Lee's smug smack talk lol
@gothfreak_official68335 жыл бұрын
Rip Stan lee
@TheComicBoss5 жыл бұрын
I loved his comics as a kid and I love them now. I used to watch this VHS in my LCS all the time. God I miss the 90’s.
@fox93647 жыл бұрын
Rob is the type of guy to come up with a great idea, but once he makes it, it looks quite weird.
@ThatFilmisGnarly3 жыл бұрын
weird = original. his style is his own.
@corgisrule218 жыл бұрын
Hes so amazing...love his attitude
@melodymsg5 жыл бұрын
In case anybody was wondering, both of those characters are now official marvel characters You may have already knew that, but if you didn’t, the more you know~
@slicksmokegaming98575 жыл бұрын
Rob Liefield the creator of X-force man doesn't get the respect and credit he deserves
@mrjblanco508 жыл бұрын
Rob leifeld is an awesome artist. I don't know who first started talking shit about him but they're WRONG! Deadpool almost everyone's favorite character now, belongs to him. Cable is another kick ass character.
@DS_portraits5 жыл бұрын
Hes just lazy He can do some amazing art But alot of it is careless
@hercb43884 жыл бұрын
mrjblanco50 characters can be cool doesn’t mean the art is good.
@dexterroberts6313 жыл бұрын
Horrible artist, great character designer
@soldiersam74243 жыл бұрын
@@DS_portraits lazy and because he was notoriously always behind schedule so he had to compromise quality.
@ernestoacosta79183 жыл бұрын
He created Deadpool as a gritty character, he’s loved today not because of his art design but his character, which wasn’t developed by Rob
@MightGuy15 Жыл бұрын
Goddamnit dude i miss stan so much
@OhBoysPaintball5 жыл бұрын
People talk a lot of smack about Liefield but I’ve always been a big fan of his art work.
@krinkle76957 жыл бұрын
This is awesome but depressing cause it reminds me how I'm stuck at a normal job and I'm now 30 but as an artist I keep drawing and hopefully I break into comics or something art related
@ThatFilmisGnarly3 жыл бұрын
"hopefully" that means you arent taking charge and sending out portfolios to publishers, or looking for freelance work. stop waiting for a savior/magic genie.
@glenbrowne87033 жыл бұрын
cool, they actually created a couple legit characters on this thing
@JeffVoss2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. His story in the beginning about how he got in was super inspirational.
@phoboswhiplash4 жыл бұрын
Damn Rob... Watching this I realize I totally misjudged the guy, he started young but humble and living the dream, he sounds like a really good person
@In-N-Out3337 жыл бұрын
I've spent a third of my life trying to draw like Rob Liefeld.
@ProNoobGamer937 жыл бұрын
In-N-Out you mean badly??
@justafanmarvel96697 жыл бұрын
In-N-Out just do what he does... put a lightbox over his work and trace what you see.... ouch I'm sorry I couldn't hold that comment back.
@AtticusStount7 жыл бұрын
He took a life drawing class? I was considering sending copies of Jack Hamm's Drawing the Human Face and Figure. No, seriously: I admit, I like some of his stuff. It's so exagarrated.
@MorgothJohnson6 жыл бұрын
Rob said commies and he knows it lol 31:39
@aarongorman63708 жыл бұрын
I can't see how people say he's so bad. Of course, he's not the best artist, but he's not bad. Not at all.
@slayertakim17 жыл бұрын
It is more like his later work got bad. When he started in the industry he was a newbie that had the potential to become great. Sadly his success caused him to become stale and soon everyone he drew looked like a variation on Cable
@ScruffyLookin11387 жыл бұрын
Nacho Ninja Rob Liefeld like to stylize his characters, maybe to a fault even. It clearly has some understanding or musculature and form, but he goes too far because that's what was popular in his time.
@62cky4powerthirst6 жыл бұрын
Take an anatomy class, or attend a few life drawing sessions: Rob Liefeld was what all of my teachers told me to avoid. His sense of color and shading is pretty good: but his anatomy has a long way to go.
@msfsaint7 жыл бұрын
He wasn't an artist. He was an artisan. A machine. He made good. Good for him. He SHOULD'VE grown out of it though...
@jra8969 Жыл бұрын
20 pages a month drawn and inked is one heck of a feat i mean thats pretty astonishing. Regardless of how "good" the art is.
@Danimat726 жыл бұрын
What i like about Liefeld is not the artstyle, mainly, (even if i find it funny and energetic somewhat) but the fact he really tries to create something compelling write it up, draw it up by his own. There are many, many many comic boks artists that are better than him at drawing, but have no real creative skills whatsoever, don't know or have the confidence and boldness to write one story, and so, they're sorta buried up doing comic books they don't even like doing. Then, other good artsts come, and they pass on in the preference of comic book readers. Rob instead at least tries to make it all, do his own creations, good or bad, but their are recognizable as his stuff so the readers will never forget him. Btw he could have matured a technically better art, and even stories if he didn't have such an immediate success still being that young. He's not a master like Mignola or Frank Miller and others. But anyway look, he really loves doing comics and he's still there doing them !
@sixsixsid48632 жыл бұрын
Frank's work is horrid now.
@Chandlerbingeling8 жыл бұрын
CROSS - the guy you don't wanna cross. :D Make a movie! Btw. ..needs more gear.
@DustinKinneyArt6 жыл бұрын
Don’t quite like his new stuff but I really love the presents of his stuff from the 90s.
@thewatcher85735 жыл бұрын
He seems more chill than he is now somehow. He's a lot more, lets say, enthusiastic now ha.
@eef26047 жыл бұрын
He looks like Matt Damon
@richblainebrazzle5 жыл бұрын
Stan was the man! He will be missed!Still love Rob and love that they have brought his creations to life in the Deadpool movies. Love to make fun of his, since fixed, inability to draw feet...I’m sure he’s tired of it, but it’s with love and gratitude I joke about it! Robs send off to Stan in Variety was amazing and I can’t think of a better person to do it!
@dimitrijetucovic1307 Жыл бұрын
"We're gonna sell a bazillion COMMIES"
@damianmonke3922 Жыл бұрын
Rob was way more humble than todd
@dxppxlgxngxr Жыл бұрын
looks like deadpool and cable
@The_Sam_Harris_Variety_Channel3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about rob, as a kid his art made my imagination run wild!!!
@thunderkid19845 жыл бұрын
Rob gets a lot of flak, some of it is deserved, much of it is not. He is certainly not the best artist to ever draw comic books from a technical standpoint. Some of his work is definitely hilariously "off" to say the least. However, his work has a lot of appeal as is evidenced by the huge sales numbers from his heyday and his continued success presently. His art is like a Michael Bay movie, lots of style, flash, energy and cheese, while being light on substance. Sometimes, that's exactly what people want. I'd like to say that I can enjoy the work of an acknowledged master of the medium such as Alex Toth and also enjoy what someone like Liefeld brings to the table. I enjoy them each in their own way and I recognize the marked differences in technical ability and understanding but my enjoyment of both remains. That may be blasphemy in some people's eyes but hey, to each their own. Also, RIP Stan Lee, incredible legend. His recent passing actually inspired me to revisit this video. One more side note, I wish these videos were on DVD or Bluray.
@supreme-dictator-donald-tr66117 жыл бұрын
even though I'm not big on Liefelds style he did help change how comic action scenes were drawn
@suctionhong67287 жыл бұрын
Supreme-dictator-donald-trump what? i personally like liefeld's style very much, but every action scenes drawn by him is just lame as fuck. each move in panel completely doesn't connected and whole scene has no recognizable flow at all. in the fight scene of x-force #3, kane holds deadpool with his left hand and raises right hand to punch deadpool in first panel, then he just punch him with left hand and the right hand is still raised in exactly same angle. did liefeld even thought about this problem after draw a script?
@rzrlight4 жыл бұрын
this dude its the Rock Lee of comic artist
@nickangelo1165 жыл бұрын
I've never seen so many haters in the comments
@purplevillager88016 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Rob. I mean, not because he gets criticized, but becaue he gets instead of critizism.
@g.g.moquete3 жыл бұрын
Hm?
@CVargas2022 жыл бұрын
who is here after seeing his interview on comic con
@drawingstuff66603 жыл бұрын
I love how eloquent they talked back then
@giorgoszartilas14996 жыл бұрын
Such a cool guy !!
@AndrewsOpinion156 жыл бұрын
HAPPY 95TH BIRTHDAY STAN LEE !!!!
@ericrivera94157 жыл бұрын
I can see some mistakes he made along the sketch, but thats the kinda stuff which happens when you rush a piece.
@McCbobbish7 жыл бұрын
Somebody call an ambulance! A couple of young men were horribly burned!
@carlitoway507 жыл бұрын
Where cable was born
@juanchocorleone6 жыл бұрын
Good Will Hunting, Marvel edition.
@itzzzsss8 жыл бұрын
still waiting for Rob Liefeld to do another LEVIS commercial. 0.o
@AliKutluozen23 күн бұрын
Who is here after seeing Deadpool & Wolverine? 👊🤘
@marklund63 ай бұрын
Came here in 2024 just to see if Stan asks Leifeld to draw feet 🤣🤣🤣
@wezibonus7 жыл бұрын
great stuff
@jesselay71194 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee: * Compliments Rob * Rob: *okay*
@ProfessorKenneth8 ай бұрын
😅 Rob never took an art class in his life.. smh
@datemasamune29047 жыл бұрын
The problem with his style is that he tries to put too much realism. His style has more resemblance to cartoons, but he just adds too many details to give it some realism. It's like drawing Bugs Bunny, but making the fur look realistic as possible.
@help43437 жыл бұрын
No, the problem is he is terrible and does his drawings don't look real.
@coffinfeeder77324 жыл бұрын
He didn’t understand proportions, multi dimensional characters, or how to draw feet and just rolled with it.
@gracenreilly6 жыл бұрын
Yo, this show is fuckin’ EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM!!!
@marsabel37145 жыл бұрын
Danika aka cbg19 sent me here. thank you
@ComicDan7 жыл бұрын
were on a roll stan, were gonna sell a bazillion comicbook,commies...Commies, COMICS
@DaBlueJay20018 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine that rob liefeld after playing with his stretch armstrong toy and admiring his fathers gun cabinet, and reading an issue of spiderman, he wanted to put all of these aspects into his comics!
@sexobscura6 жыл бұрын
*well, the madcap laughed at the man on the border-*
@Kaioshin90005 жыл бұрын
R.i.p Stan
@danielgasparek81965 ай бұрын
A GREAT THAT NEVER WAS!
@poubelle_blanche8 ай бұрын
Ankles rob.
@rickyt51797 жыл бұрын
Awesome story!
@eternalsquanch84457 жыл бұрын
ROB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@thepickles88337 жыл бұрын
You may not like his work, but take note that his art, as flawed as it is... if you see it, you know Immediately it's him...or an imitator to him. Many artists would KILL to have that kind of artistic style recognition. So poke fun at the tiny feet he draws, but Picasso also distorted the human form until it became a style of his own as well.
@ronstarbuck3478 Жыл бұрын
Diedhard shops in the kids section for shoes
@marcbelo73016 ай бұрын
I dont know if he was one of the comic book greats more like the comic book rip offs.
@Lars12844 жыл бұрын
23:28: "Black kinda says ... something!"
@roelrocha50596 жыл бұрын
looks like Matt Damon
@Handle...This.5 жыл бұрын
Rob gets alot of crap for his art back in the day (feet & pouches especially), but I think people are making the mistake of comparing recent art to the art of back then. To anyone reading this, just humor me: google search comic pages from the 50's and tell me if you don't see a huge difference. The coloring of today is 10,000 times better than it used to be and so is the detailing of anatomy and backgrounds. So back then, Rob was a pro and so was Todd Mcfarlane for that matter. I won't include Jim Lee because he is on a different level...he came out of the womb with a sketchpad and some pigma microns.
@suctionhong67288 жыл бұрын
Rob definitely regressed in his art style. 25 years ago, he showed fast-fancy drawing skill and atrracttive figure. however now, he just shows dullish skill and Crumpled-cardboard figure.
@cartoongoon02704 жыл бұрын
aaa the sarcasm
@williamrice1095 ай бұрын
Those feet !!
@Samzsquanch2 жыл бұрын
It's night and day watching the episode with todd and then the episode with rob. Nothing seems to faze rob, he's really laid back and can roll with stan's razzing. Nothing against todd, love them both, just something I noticed. Maybe todd was nervous lol
@w.h.merrow30645 жыл бұрын
Rob looks like Todd from breaking bad
@WOLFanddBEAR Жыл бұрын
I love Rob. Suck it haters. 💪
@dilarakal43333 жыл бұрын
The minute Rob drew the pose for the character, I can tell Stan was just not having it. Rip Stan Lee.
@savvas_tsigou6 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, that's Deathstrokepool from YoungBlood.
@tonycaballero14944 жыл бұрын
When rob said he learned the fundamentals the lie detector test determined that was a LIE