The Rise and Fall of Gwenpool

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Gwenpool is far more than just a Deadpool or Gwen Stacy clone, but Marvel has no idea what to do with her.
00:00 Intro
00:37 Thanks, Dislyte!
1:41 The Rise
14:29 The Fall
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Tags: #Gwenpool #Deadpool #Marvel

[@PommyDragon2525]

That “Huh, two nickels” moment is one of the best examples of cultural linguistic evolution I’ve ever seen.

[@Irish_Enderman]

Best joke in the video

[@wildste]

I find it more hilarious that he knew that if he didn't make the joke, someone in the comments would

[@Doomsword0]

@@wildstesomeone probably still will

[@RickReasonnz]

Joke was so quick, so smooth. Perfect execution.

[@batguy39]

Won't stop the NPCs

[@Confuzed54]

I totally get your gripes with modern Deadpool comics, but I feel there is a clear distinction between Deadpool when he’s written well and “Memepool” as fans have dubbed him. When the writer knows what they’re doing, Deadpool is a snarky, somewhat comedic character, but his stories often focus on his sadistic nature, his self-loathing mindset, and his desire for redemption. Memepool, on the other hand, is an obnoxious loud mouth that solely exists to entertain tweens, scream about chimichangas, and sell cheap merchandise at Hot Topic.

[@2-Way_Intersection]

yeah, id like for drake to do a video really examining deadpool and either explaining why he still dislikes him in spite of that, or possiblyhow his mind changed. either way, it'd be great to highlight

[@Lawgamer411]

Thank god the Deadpool movies get that part of the character right.

[@SpektakOne]

I’m what you’d call a Deadpool “early adopter” - discovered him when X-Force #2 came out, and absolutely loved the Joe Kelly run, as well as Rick Remender’s Uncanny X-Force. My biggest problem with Memepool is that other characters tolerate him. Like his skill set isn’t so amazing that other superheroes need to have him around, yet he teams up with all the other stars and they just roll their eyes at his antics.

[@ironmaster6496]

​@@Lawgamer411FOR REAL, he was jokey but still cared a lot about Vanessa and Russel even had some cool development

[@B1gBoyPants]

@@Lawgamer411 YES. I love the movies so much. Obviously the action and jokes are really awesome and funny, but it wouldn't work if the movies had no emotional center. They really grounded Deadpool emotionally and made him a character I can care about, not just a joke machine. He's so much more likeable in the movies than in some of the comics.

[@RiiftApart]

The one issue with Gwenpool is that, paradoxically, her original series was *so* good that I wouldn’t even really want a continuation of it. Hastings wrote a fantastic story and managed to “crash land” it with an outstanding send-off after it got cancelled. You would *love* to see more of her like this, but it might just not be replicable in the first place.

[@ChiPsiUp]

Gwenpool's comic was so good that it made Batroc the Leaper a well rounded and likable character.

[@MrOnepiecem7]

@@ChiPsiUp Not the first time

[@andrewdau1299]

I only recognize the original run of Gwenpool. I'd rather see the character get a good ending than get milked to death. Being milked to death is a fate I see happen way too many times in media. To quote and old man , "Sometimes dead is better."

[@cammoore___]

And now the Gwenpool video trilogy is complete.

[@ElectroPlasmaAnimator]

Sam Ramie’s trilogy vs Comic Drakes Trilogy?

[@kyrohowe3156]

​@@ElectroPlasmaAnimatorComic Drake, definitely

[@BadBoyBird]

Yes brother

[@leakysteve5613]

Fun fact: it's heavily implied the way gwen originally got to 616 was through magic. She was going to apply for a job at a voodoo shop, but her brother, who was part of keeping her in her "original world", talked her out of it, then later said "this wasn't how it was supposed to happen.

[@orangemonks894]

Hmmmmmm

[@strombreakr]

Erm akchewaly she's a mutant with reality warping powers

[@annawesometheflameingpikac3688]

@@strombreakr the video literally explains that Gwen herself retconned herself into being a mutant with reality warping powers

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

But... She also still admits she's really not. Meaning she remembers. Meaning the origin still stands (as it well should) its just retconned in-universe. Kinda like how we all remember pre-retcon times, but obviously those in-universe don't (usually)

[@brianbasham3517]

It makes me wonder if she is actually the writer and creator of her own comic and can retcon herself to be whatever she wants in the comic.

[@theanimalagency2490]

Gwenpool always seemed like to me as a more tame Deadpool narratively speaking so that’s why she’s better when she’s not Wade, because it makes her unique and makes her comic necessary, because otherwise she’s Deadpool but female. When she’s her own thing. Marvel can tell stories that are super unique and interesting, or just something other characters couldn’t

[@evangelineirene6994]

Well we already have Lady Deadpool for Deadpool but female

[@theanimalagency2490]

@@evangelineirene6994 another reason for why she’s better unique

[@windghost2]

Agreed 1000000%!

[@windghost2]

She's amazing!

[@evangelineirene6994]

@@theanimalagency2490 lady Deadpool is more amazing than Gwen but Deadpool.

[@Tiggeralt]

I liked Gwenpool's guest appearance in the 2021 MODOK mini-series. She actually manages to kill MODOK, but when she realizes that not only is this his book, but he's portrayed somewhat sympathetically, she asks the reader to pretend the last few pages never happened. As a side note, I want everyone to know that while Gwenpool's color scheme is based on Spider-Gwen, Gwenpool had pink hair first!

[@jardex2275]

Fun fact is that the artist for Spider-Gwen was looking for reference material, mistook a shot of Gwen Poole for Gwen Stacy, and now Ghost Spider has pink hair.

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

​@@jardex2275... It's better this way. Lol

[@thatonerotom8999]

@@3xeplodng_3agle_studios though It'll only make the two harder to distinguish for someone not familiar with her

[@3xeplodng_3agle_studios]

@@thatonerotom8999 not really. The two look completely different in every other way, and they both act/are characterized totally different.

[@Magmafrost13]

There's a certain tragic irony to Gwenpool suffering the exact same fate that she originally criticises Deadpool for, in being occasionally very well-written and genuinely funny, but mostly terrible. I wish I could buy Unbelievable Gwenpool, I always look for it in every comic shop I visit but Ive yet to find it

[@thedarkroom6416]

Lol

[@jordanheitmuller2935]

I want to see a "what if" where she goes back in time and fixes bad comics like one more day and civil war.

[@lucasallen5792]

That's a very interesting idea

[@StudioInkblot]

I agree that Civil War isn't very good but idk if Marvel would agree

[@dubbingsync]

I don’t know if she would do that, she did see a future version of herself be a villain. Going back to those big events in the world of 616 might be something she wouldn’t want to do due to trying to be a hero.

[@muhammadHassan-kj1jy]

Wait Civil war is bad???

[@MrOnepiecem7]

@@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Yep

[@aadenturnbull1332]

I think Unbelievable Gwenpool was my favorite version of Gwenpool because it gave this really fun but serious vibe to the story of her trying not to get cancelled.

[@benwasserman8223]

Can we all collectively agree that Gurihiru has the cutest comic book art style? I want every comic drawn like their version of Gwenpool 😊

[@kab6754]

It's pretty neat

[@kyletowers9662]

i love their art so much

[@soontobechannel743]

Seriously! It’s so cute! It sort of has that anime style feel to it but much cuter (maybe even chibi??)

[@o0bookwyrmknight0o]

I agree and I highly suggest the other superhero comic series they worked on, “Superman Smashes the Klan”!

[@neotwo8786]

It's cool but lacks critical details. The colors are awesome though!

[@Ijustusethistocommentstuff]

I feel like a fun direction they could have taken Gwenpool is to essentially make her fight off-the-wall, golden-era comics villains. Their powersets, combined with Gwenpool's still-very-fragile regular human body, would make for a fun ride. I feel like the problem they made right off the bat was writing Gwenpool's actual fights, not their banter, like Deadpool's. It kind of meant they had to have a more frantic character, that wouldn't match well with the story they wanted to tell. They HAD to explain why Gwen, who was pretty much the most normal person ever, fit into Deadpool's style of combat. Making Gwenpool fight more like the Punisher, and deal with wackier powers, would set her apart from the both of them.

[@ExeErdna]

Basically put Gwen vs Mojo. It's legit tragic due to this age of media and meme MOJO hasn't been the main villain in ANYTHING.

[@yusuranaomi3338]

at first I thought Gwenpool's first comic book was excellent, but then Marvel made more and more mistakes, at worst it didn't advance the character's story and we had cultural events for political campaigns. Marvel further destroyed the character yet she was creative

[@alimations5226]

Gwenpool vs Hypno Hustler when? They even got the same colors

[@user-ww9gq4zo8t]

Sucks this happens to a lot of heroes and villains like GwenPool (or even The Spot back then). Had the potential to be big until they switch writers, who have NO IDEA how to write the characters. ;n;

[@ironmaster6496]

That's honestly the thing i hate the most about the comic book industry, like seriously you can't just create a character or a story and then give it to someone else and expect to not radically change everything most of the time for the worse, like that's what Ruined the Hobgoblin and the clone saga in general

[@CometX-ing]

I know writers of varying writing styles, but a lot of the time it just feels like a genuine lack of concern about continuity or making keeping characters in character. Like the way that Gwen is writing in Strikes Back feels like there is almost zero concern with actually having her feel like Hastings' Gwen.

[@MrRobot1984]

That’s why there’s a glut of redundant characters. Writers just make a new character that does exactly what another character already does.

[@Americanbadashh]

@@MrRobot1984 And? Why is that a bad thing exactly?

[@salad72057]

@@Americanbadashh because the preexisting characters that could be used end up being unused and the new characters end up going unused after their role in the story is done

[@certifiednobody]

I’ve been reading the 1997 Deadpool run, and he never feels like an ‘lol random’ character. He’s quippy like Spider-Man, but much more tragic and unstable under the surface. It’s easy to connect with him and his struggle to overcome his past.

[@richborn6700]

It isn't until about 2008-2009 when Daniel Way began writing Deadpool he went overboard with the wacky shit and all the obnoxious love for Mexican food. It's also around the time he got exposure and was all over Hot Topic and hundreds of T-shirts and game cameos plus his own game. It was a dilution of a decent character under the pen of Joe Kelly. Deadpool hasn't been the same since before the first Civil War. Buuuuuuuut, his arc in Uncanny X-Force under Rick Remender was *Chefs Kiss*

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

tbf i feel like deadpool becoming memepool started more in the early 2010s bc thats when random humour was at its peak

[@Andyatl2002]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat, did he get flanderized?

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

@@Andyatl2002 i feel like even if thats not when it started, its definitely when it became more noticeable/obvious

[@gm2407]

I think I only really read cable and deadpool. Didn't feel 'lol random' just unpredictable. Which these are different things. He always had motivations he was trying to act on.

[@CometX-ing]

Gurihiru's art really helped sell the feel of Gwenpool's character. Gwenpool Strikes Back, on top of just being written as lol so random a lot of the time also made her appear extremely unhinged with its art. Even with her original appearance it wasn't until Gurihiru started drawing her that I feel like her character really started to set in. Where as with Gwenpool Strikes Back a lot of the art has highly exaggerated expressions and in general makes her look far to zany and unhinged.

[@jameshibberd5134]

Other artists give the impression of "Deadpool but woman" whereas Guirihurus art gives the impression of "Deadpool but Silly Teenage Girl" and I think thats one of the key differences.

[@CaptainCat101]

I made two Lego Gwenpool Minifigures, all because you made me love reading the character's comics (when she was good)

[@CaptainCat101]

​@@firesparks22I used acrylic paint on Lego Friends figures

[@CriticalThinkingShow]

El Hombre Araña? Never in my life did I think I would hear anyone mention him. Toda Raba, thank you very much.

[@gameboysp100]

Man Gwenpool is one of my favorite comic characters. I really want her to be in good comics again

[@arnezbridges93]

I feel you, it was like this for us Squirrel Girl fans for a long time, only instead of better it got worse. Finally we hot a superior writer, but too late she's been labeled as a joke character despite having a serious origin story.

[@JacobGunner]

I feel like this highlights a problem in western comics... writers changing characters to make them stay relevant and they just end up getting derailed or out-right become a different person. Like Cassandra Cain becoming a villain.

[@erikwirfs-brock2432]

It's both the strength and weakness of the shared universe with loose continuity, every new writer puts a different spin on the character to see what sticks, but for a marginally popular one like this the character eventually become incoherent because no one writers her long enough to have a definitive take others can easily copy in guest appearances.

[@jordanloux3883]

I've only read one comic with Gwenpool in it, and that was her appearance in MODOK: Headgames. And I liked her, basically abusing the comics medium to undue her murdering ol Bighead and letting him win the fight by basically telling readers to cut out the page where she kills him. That was funny, sweet, and meta in a way that I didn't see coming.

[@johnnydropkicks]

7:16 “Dumptruck ass” = hilarious!

[@heroicgangster9981]

Ngl Gwenpool should destroy the current mainline Spider-Man canon, that would make her the greatest Marvel hero

[@zeroknight1311]

I like the entire recuritment of the different incarnations of Gwenpool situation. Since it showed how writers can have different takes on the same character. Some takes are good and others are bad. Even showing how despite all being the same character, Gwenpool's various incarnations all have their own opinions in the same matter. Which makes sense, they're each versions of her at different points in time.

[@trevorbatesanimation1883]

It's funny that both Gwenpool and Ms Marvel (more in the show than the comics) are basically Marvel fans who become superheroes, and both of them have now been retconned into being mutants

[@veefrog]

I feel like Gwen Poole is the kind of being that doesn't exist unless observed, and then each of her runs or guest apperances is a different incarnation of the greater concept of Gwenpool, like the New Gods in DC.

[@AlexBaldwinFTW]

Her solo run is one of my all time favourites alongside Squirrel Girl.

[@GiubileiFernando]

Your first Gwenpool video made me read the whole Gurihiru run and love it, but I didn't care for anything that came afterwards, in big part because I think that run had a perfect ending. I think they should only bring Gwenpool back if they have a really good story in mind.

[@thejest69]

I agree. I wanted to see more of Gwenpool, but I didn't think I had to specify that NOT if it means being without good storytelling like her original run had, and certainly NOT if it means her being a twisted-up echo of the character I came to know. The "strikes back" story could just not exist, it doesn't have much of a story, and it goes in circles on what its about and why it's there, (the end backpedaling and calling it all just a manic episode doesn't redeem it for me). Her joining the roster of background mutants doesn't seem like it's all that good of an ending for her either, since she put on a costume to avoid being cannon fodder, and a lot of those background mutants end up being other character's stories cannon fodder.

[@SymbioteMullet]

Wait, wasn't "deadpool with boobs" Lady Deadpool from the Deadpool Corps series?

[@ComicDrake]

Yup

[@RumForBreakfast]

I feel like any comic character is going to have ups and downs. She had to have a clone saga era eventually.

[@philparis796]

Hot Take: Gwenpool needs a Persona 4 style JRPG where she has to beat the evil Gwenpool in the timeline where she reveals the heroes' names. Give her the English VA for Ochako from My Hero Academia and have her special attacks be onomatopoeia she weaponizes and i think it could be game of the year material. if nobody else makes it, I'll study game design and do it!

[@chickenheart4695]

I’m glad I’m not the only one talking about Gwenpool in 2023 on KZbin. We must keep her spirit alive.

[@Never_heart]

The explanation of how Gwenpoole entered Marvel Comics might be one of the most interesting isekai stories I have come acrosss. This level of engaging with her medium is so rare in isekai stories

[@PrDrNintendo]

You've perfectly summed up how I feel about the evolution of Gwenpool comics and why I love her and her first series so much !! Plus it's nice to see someone criticize what she's becoming without trashing on her Love Unlimited issues which I personally really liked (but that kinda was my aroace awakening so idk maybe I'm biased)

[@DzustComics]

I got all the trades on ebay recently and I can't wait to crash them open! You absolutely NEED to read the Duggan run in Deadpool thought! That run gave him SO MUCH more depth!

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

My personal viewpoint: I really like Deadpool when he's done right. Like with the Deadpool vs Black Panther book, where he's funny, a great foil for T'Challa, and the ultimate Bugs Bunny style trickster. Also he's combatitively on par with T'Challa which is cool.

[@ComicDrake]

I did really enjoy the weird animal arms thing that they had going on with Deadpool's super cancer. 😂 Overall, good premise for a book and a good use of Deadpool.

[@zachstasch4688]

The Hastings/Guruhiru Gwenpool run is my #1 favorite comic run of all time and I absolutely loved getting to revisit it in this video. And you did a great job with all of it. Also, I remember having the exact same journey with the Strikes Back series. I had a hard time with the first half of it and haven't read it since it was new, but it actually lives in my memory as an overall positive.

[@Thenameless1]

From the way you're describing the way Gwenpool uses fourth wall breaks, I'm being reminded so much of Alan Moore's run on Supreme.

[@justinsinke2088]

Part of what I find interesting about Gwenpool (with my admittedly rather limited knowledge of comics) is that, while the abilities she developed are in the same vein as Deadpool, they're not quite identical. Deadpool is a comic book character who is aware that he's a comic book character and is aware of the medium; Gweenpool is canonically is canonically from the "real" world and more often directly interacts with the medium itself (though Deadpool has been known to do that as well, like in Marvel vs Capcom he beats his opponents with his own health bar for example). Her transplanted nature means that in a way, she doesn't fully gel with the comic world and as such is not only aware of the medium, but can interact with it, which is beyond simple 4th wall breaking.

[@EliteslayerX]

Gwenpool became one of my favorite Marvel characters almost immediately after I picked up an issue of her comic, and I'm so glad that you feel just as strongly as I do about her character and the fantastic run of Unbelievable Gwenpool (and also Jeff the Land Shark, who is the goodest boy). The following runs just failed to capture that magic, but I'm still happy whenever I see her pop up. And after the latest mutant-related event that just happened, I need to know that she's okay.

[@orangemonks894]

Hey Drake, you described the issue with gwen in the real world as "A flashback issue" and that really confuses me. Its not made entirely clear that that world is what really happened before she came to 616 or if that is simply her mind erased and sent into a made up world. You would think that the future heroes who trapped her in there would have made the world a lot more enjoyable so that she wouldn't try to escape but idk. I'd really like to understand that part cause even after reading it twice I still don't fully get it.

[@blakecook9266]

She was sent to a made up world that was supposed to put her off the path of entering the comic world. Unfortunately for the future heroes, since Gwen recognized that she was inside a comic, she escaped. But it was likely very similar to her original situation, with only the difference that she was talked out of entering that portal thing.

[@zacharyvanstanley9488]

Honestly, there are so few good Ace and Aro characters that we need the representation. I’m Ace, and I was honestly so excited to see that Gwen is Ace.

[@bananashoplifter3440]

👎

[@steampunk-llama]

Same!! And particularly an *aro*ace character at that, even with the few well written ace characters I’ve seen they almost always end up being alloromantic as well. So to see her being unabashedlydepicted as aromantic as well is just really nice as an aroace person myself

[@marinocturne]

commenting for the algorithm! this dude deserves way more than half a million subs. he's always well researched, every minute is informative and entertaining, and it feels so cleanly put together

[@Ckapter]

I found your videos only a week or two ago. I have been missing out! Fantastic work, well written, and professionally delivered. Keep up the awesome vids!

[@GreenGearStudio]

When I read that Gwenpool is aroace, it felt so validating. One of my favourite heroes, one of only 2 I own a full comic line of, having the same lack of sexuality as me just made me immensely happy. I'm grateful we have her amongst the small handful of ace characters

[@melasn9836]

Same here - it's especially nice that they specified that she's AROace, since a lot of ace characters are still alloromantic, and it just makes being aroace feel... unwelcomed. I'm just afraid that Marvel will use that as an excuse to keep her on a shelf until they need her for a Pride special or, worse, a shock value death.

[@bananashoplifter3440]

Christ 🙄

[@neyou6940]

​@@bananashoplifter3440homophobic

[@CountDVB]

@@melasn9836 I mean, she's too niche for anything mainstream and killing her off would just PO people. And she isn't a bg enough character to warrant anything major there. I think at most is they'd bring her back for a Pride special if they remember she exists.

[@soomitsunami5936]

@@bananashoplifter3440for real you don’t need a whole gender for not loving people

[@commonviewer2488]

Lots of potential for a character that understands the universe so well. Hope she's cleared to make _some_ impact on her new world.

[@canis2020]

"Huh, 2 nickles...." Best bit I've seen this week. Perfect timing, perfect length, just perfect.

[@chucklinnarwhal]

I started reading Gwenpool because I saw one panel of her solo run posted on the internet and was blown away by the art style, but never finished it. Guess who just ordered the omnibus after this video

[@Darqueness]

Never was a fan of Dadpool but the more i hear you talk of Gwenpool and the differences the more it intrigues me. Once again you've piqued my interest, kudos on yet another great insightful vid, dude.

[@anniel6479]

I was not expecting to learn Gwenpool was Aro/Ace! I'll admit, your videos on her have been my main exposure to the character, but as an Aro/Ace person, this news made me smile. I think it fits her.

[@jameshibberd5134]

I like how you always see Allo people Saying that Gwen being Aroace makes no sense, its a "retcon" and that she was clearly never intended to be Aroace, but we see it. As soon as you ask Aroace people about her its just Every detail makes perfect sense, and every part of her character is so relatable, but most other people just don't see it.

[@anniel6479]

@@jameshibberd5134 lol, yeah, it be like that.

[@NickonStark]

I just saw your old Gwenpool video yesterday, this is perfect!

[@ianpolicarpio7969]

I'm subscribing solely because of my love for Gwenpool and how much care you put into presenting her so well 👍

[@acer9494]

I fell in love with the Unbelievable Gwenpool series. I really loved that her superpower was just basically be a comic book fan that got transported to the 616 universe. Its also funny whenever she calls heroes with secret identities by their realnames my favorite instance is actually in her Venomvesre spin off where she is basically trying to keep her work boss from finding out Matt Murdock is Daredevil because of a doodle she made on some documents her boss pick up. Also let not forget that in her series 616 Doctor Strange saw a movie theater with the Doctor Strange movie and said Benedict Cumberbatch was a good choice. I really would love to see Gwen get a main comic series again. Better yet I think it be great if she got an animated show or MCU show and have the whole thing being she got transported to the show from the comics. Also if they did an animated show I think it should be a comedy series like Harley Quinn as that would fit her character perfectly.

[@itsishbish2689]

I just wish the omnibus for Unbelievable Gwenpool wasn't 100 fucking dollars

[@davidklein7980]

Great timing on my lunch break

[@codingincodeforkids5814]

first reply of the first coment

[@shinyocelot04archive]

I've heard of Gwenpool's original run, mostly through your other videos, but I didn't even know that infinite comic even existed. Glad to see some ace representation though.

[@Snidbert]

Honestly my biggest gripe with the Love Unlimited arc is how it had a flashback depicting Gwen's home universe. I think Gwen's home universe should never be directly depicted on-panel, because her home universe *isn't part of a comic book.*

[@CountDVB]

It's still her memories though.

[@xanderneiger2211]

Hey Drake I’ve seen a tone of your videos over the years and I just wanted to say I love ever single one. Thank you for taking the time to go into so much detail and provide such amazing content. There was one thing I’ve always been curious about in the Marvel Comic Universe and that was when Professor X became president. I’ve seen this comic pop-up so much on TikTok and I’ve just become so curious, and I was wondering if you in the future would be willing to do a video on it? Thanks again can’t wait for the next video!

[@Stayner]

Thanks for keeping my love for comics alive.

[@josephmosalem]

gj man .. good video- i literally watched this video, went and read all of og gwenpool (up to before west coast avengers), then came back to write this comment. thanks for getting me to read a comic about a character I otherwise would not have.

[@treycumberbatch5257]

Just discovered this channel and it's already one of my favourites on KZbin

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Great analysis video as always!!

[@litestonelgbt]

as an aroace myself, I loved the last issue with explanations about asexuality. there is so much misinformation about it that that issue tackled. I am also an ADHD Marvel fan with pink-dyed hair which makes me even more like Gwenpool tbh... I'm basically Gwenpool IRL!!

[@channelname349]

This video made me realize I was aroace about a year ago. Best year of my life. Thank you, dude.

[@tharushafernando4410]

She will be a great fit in the spiderverse.

[@hudsondavis1399]

Gwenpool is one of my favorites and tbh, her coming out as AroAce meant a lot to me as someone who is Asexual! I bought her omnibus a while ago and absolutely tore through it. She’s one of my faves and I’ll gladly support her however I can.

[@asmodeusguys4472]

Seriously? That was just wayyy to preachy. Gwenpool isn't some raunchy person who has sex with every single person she meets, but there are multiple moments in her series where she goes: "yeah, this is so hot" and to my understanding, that doesn't really fly well with aroace people. And even if my info on this is wrong and I'm just talking outta my ass, this "development" of hers was not natural, it just came out of nowhere. Create an original character that fits these qualities, instead of taking established characters and labeling them something that was not intended. At the very least, make it make sense. Develop this properly. And christ, looking at the online discourse from people who ARE aroace, they don't really fuck with this due to the misrepresentation of the term, which again shows that this writer is only virtue signaling. It's all fake.

[@valerielusa8000]

@@asmodeusguys4472 asexuality and aromanticism are spectrums, many people identify as such while still experiencing those forms of attraction in small amounts of in very specific circumstances. aroace people can also experience forms of attraction that aren't sexual or romantic, such as platonic attraction. they can also be capable of intimate relationships. source: my girlfriend is aroace :>

[@BeedleTheImmortal]

​@@asmodeusguys4472arpace people recegnise that soemthing can be hot or attractive but not like it themselves

[@hudsondavis1399]

@@asmodeusguys4472 Her being AroAce was very general headcanon among her fans as she never showed interest in romance beyond sales. And Ace people can still acknowledge someone as hot and stuff. And dress sexy too. We just don’t feel the need to do the deed with other people. I am Asexual so pls don’t tell me what counts as good representation if you aren’t.

[@hudsondavis1399]

@@asmodeusguys4472 and the ENTIRE creative team on that comic were Aspec, so it’s very much not virtue signaling.

[@MasutaMJ]

Marvel Fans:... Eric July: TOKENIZATION!

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

This was a fascinating episode

[@ak-ub1ym]

The concept+premise of Gwenpool is really interesting. U have a lot to work and have fun with since each char lifespan is within that page or book which can lead some goofy scenarios.

[@donaldwright8567]

Gwenpool:" I don't really like Deadpool comics. He's way way too cringy for my taste."😑 Deadpool: (sob) HONEY!!! Our baby girl hates me! (sob)😭 Spider-Gwen: I'm not your 'Honey', she's not our daughter, and HOW THE HECK DID I GET HERE!!!

[@supsup335]

I love the original run. One of my favourite books.

[@LinkEX]

7:41 I got your video in my recommendations. And to be honest, had to remember why I subscribed to you originally, because I was about to do so, lol. Then at 17:03, when you referred to that video, I remembered that this was the first video of you I watched. So yes, this is the second Gwenpool video I have watched, haha. It's been a while.

[@caterpee]

gwenpool sounds SO COOL!! i wanna read her comic now!! ALSO WHEN I TELL YOU I ALMOST CRIED HEARING SHE WAS AROACE AAAUUGUGHGHG!!!! I'm really new to comics and I just never thought there would be canon aroace rep (I'm aroace btw). like obv there's so many other things that i love about gwenpool now (her design is top tier) but seeing this character that's so amazing also be kinda like me is really nice. great video!!

[@Goshdarn-cp7ft]

The two nickels joke got me! Great video :D

[@kyletowers9662]

Love gurihiru's art so much

[@boredhuman6512]

Gwenpool is one of reasons I tried... am trying? To get into comics more Recently I've been more dealing with thoughts on perhaps being aromantic so man does it feel weirdly cathartic to learn she is aroace... I hope we can get more cool gwenpool comics

[@Color_Splsh]

Oh man, you JUST learned about the Mexican Spider-Man comic? You're in for a treat.

[@moovudu4822]

I'll be honest gwenpool to this day is still probably my favoirte marvel character. not because she has the flashy powers or anything else i just really like her character. She has problems but then again most characters in comics and manga do. But in a universe where theres so many one way villains or heros having gwenpool kinda be just an omage to what fans would probably do is just a fun idea for me (especially since im a cosplayer so theres that aspect as well)

[@vincentfranklin17]

I like both Deadpool and Gwenpool myself.

[@thinenansflipflop]

“What’s your excuse for not subscribing” Me: *I’m a Deadpool fan*

[@Doomsword0]

I remember watching your original video about her and thinking “this all sounds really cool I should read some of those comics” and then I totally forgot and never did oops. But watching this video and hear about the rest of her story, I still kinda want to. Hopefully I remember this time. I actually kinda like that final explanation for it all and think it ties everything together. I feel like this whole story shows what I’ve thought for a while that some characters are great in short bursts, not every character needs to have an ongoing title or needs to appear in other characters stories. Some characters should have a handful of issues to make a trade what a team of creators have an idea then be out back for a bit. Also had heard that she came out as aroace but didn’t read about how, but I love that that was how, I think that’s a great story both for her and to introduce the less known queer identity to the mainstream (or at least as mainstream as reads the webcomics). It’s nice as someone who is myself and now I do want to read that one specifically even if not the others. Thanks for making this video Drake!

[@bigfriend9133]

reminder to read gwenpool

[@giovannib.9755]

17:51 This made me realize that between Gwen and Nadia Van Dyne, Gurihiru have been involved with two separate comic book characters who suffer from somewhat realistic depictions of manic episodes

[@keithcurtis]

Thanks, I'll have to check out the comics you mentioned. I had always wondered what she was about. However, I will have to lament that yet another video about a self aware comic character has gone by with no mention of Ambush Bug, who was doing this before both Deadpool and She-Hulk.

[@g0ldenant]

Really good video, Im def subbing now

[@ItsTheFizz]

Here's hoping she didn't get murdered on Krakoa in Marvel's latest bout of MCU synergy...

[@MrKyGuy]

The Jeff infinity comics are amazing. Highly recommended!!!

[@BiaZarr]

Good video Drake, good video!

[@Skwish6952]

I'm not a huge fan of comic Deadpool but I love the way Ryan plays Deadpool in the movies... Excluding the mouthless wolverine version.

[@sopebarrofficial3557]

No matter what, Unbelievable Gwenpool is still one of my favourite Marvel comic runs

[@andrewdau1299]

It's nice to see that people like Gwenpool and she has a big fan base. I love Hasting's run and its pretty much the only one I acknowledge. It was actually clever at being meta about how comic books are run. I'm hesitant about these other runs. I've seen parts of them and even when they do try to be clever it doesn't come quite as close as Hasting's run. I just prefer Hasting's run and keep it in my mind as Gwenpool. I've made my peace with that. This is a very good video and thank you for compiling Gwenpool's history.

[@Tyulenin]

I'm glad that Gwenpool got back on track in recent years, at least with M.O.D.O.K. Headgames and Love Unlimited

[@TheTerrorOfDeath]

2:38 Deadpool isn’t a mutant except in his film

[@amanrashid1978]

The gwenpool omnibus is coming out soon for £70 and is 1000 pages long

[@Caxerw13]

Looking forward to your deep dive into the Italian-American anti-hero Gabapool

[@FireSonic102]

7:40, wait, you're still only under 500k? I remember watching you like years ago and thought that your content would have blown up by now; you're insanely skilled at story telling and lore dropping

[@captinchillin]

Cute! I never knew Gwenpool strikes back became selfaware. Almost makes me want to suffer through the first chunk to get to that goodness.

[@NoHateLikeChristianLove]

This is good. Much better than those other satirical/parodic channels that just say “this game is stupid and so are you”! One guy did that for RDR2 where it was just “game bad” contrarianism. No creativity.

[@expendableindigo9639]

Remembering Batroc was in this just makes his MCU death even sadder.

[@JudgeSabo]

God, I loved that original run so much. I wish we had anything close to the original run

[@honeycombc]

I absolutely had no idea Gwen was Aroace until right now. But considering she’s been my favourite comic book character for almost 5 years… and I came out as Ace around the same time I discovered her. I’d say it’s all making sense

[@CountDVB]

It ws a pretty recent development and a divisive one (if mainly because it seems to contradict with alot of her previous behavior).

[@sebastianevangelista4921]

This has definitely peaked my interest in the character and I'm definitely going to have to check out your Deadpool video. Would you say that the two films are better, worse, or on par with your feelings towards the comic counterpart?