The END of the classic Avengers | Avengers: Disassembled

[@Werferharfer]

Hey look at me, I'm in a Back Issues marathon.

[@jm329]

Same

[@Martin_TheCollector]

Same here lol.

[@terry10tnj]

Same lol

[@WhoaBusterBrown]

Same

[@Brolliinvincible]

Me tooo!!!

[@PurpleColonel]

Catching up on old episodes. The production value has changed, but the dynamic is just as great here as it is now.

[@davidreyna7410]

Only thing that's changed is production quality and subscriber count

[@PurpleColonel]

@@davidreyna7410 Exactly yeah

[@TacosAreWizard]

@@PurpleColonel It’s you, the funny haha Half Life man.

[@Mikey.N5714]

I always love the little history lesson we get before the story for context

[@batshineman174]

I distinctly remember an episode of The Super Hero Squad Show in which Wolverine got tired of working with the rest of the Squad so he left and joined the "League of Captains" after being invited by Captain America and becomes "Captain Canada".

[@Sicod79]

Bendis's desire to avoid having to deal with continuity in his runs has early warning signs....

[@kazual6149]

I love to watch these old back issues and look at what comics where coming out at the time haha

[@OriginalPai]

People don't age in Marvel comics because Franklin Richards mother fucking said so.

[@comicpop]

lol

[@elijahday9914]

I frequently watch this to put my to sleep at night . All the guys voices are so comforting . Been since this video came out . Still one of my favorites . Hopefully one day I can meet you dudes .

[@psuley1977]

21:48 It was Agatha All Along

[@flywheelshyster]

i'm watching this for a second time and its still just as good. favorite part: focus on sal when he says "oh shit, what are we gonna do with scarlet witch, hey! magneto's here!"

[@NoahAregood]

If there was a Marvel version of D&D: -Scarlet Witch = Sorcerer -Doctor Strange = Wizard

[@JoshMunroe]

Ever since I watched this video, I've used the voice and hand movements for Dr. Strange that Sal uses. A classic episode that really strikes on the humorous heights this series can reach. Books I've bought as a result of this series: 2

[@cyrusuchimaru8011]

Love watching old eps and seeing how my fav youtube show has grown.

[@SoloTabletop]

as someone who only knows the avengers from the different movies I really enjoyed listening to you guys talking about the comics with all the background infos etc. keep up the good work!

[@genshishio9316]

magneto: I will be taking my daughter now avengers: you can't Magneto: or what? Avengers: ...(silence) Magneto: one of you try to stop me I dare you Avengers: ...(silence) Magneto: BITCH I DOUBLE DARE YOU !!! Avengers: ... (Silence) ( magneto leaves) Iron man: I was gunna kick his ass but my suit had a virus and I had to reboot Another avenger: I would have too but my powers needed to ummm recharge Hawkeyes ghost: you are all such pussies An avenger: said thee the dead douche bag dressed in purple Hawkeyes ghost: I died taking out a kree fleet basically single handed while you cried in a bush. Hawkeye out peace

[@nikkowhite7732]

9 years later and blue beetle's getting a movie, what a time to be alive lol😂

[@tinyhowlet1]

Great Show.Stumbled upon yous guys. Never looked back.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

26:46 Sal just made a Doctor Who reference. Nice.

[@gabrielcarlisle4980]

the idea of an episode covering all of the events between this and the present is a great idea. although it should be an hour long.

[@comicpop]

I want to do that, but I feel like we pretty much did (especially given this week's impending episode). But maybe a roundup is in order ;)

[@shoresean1237]

Good review. One point : The Avengers didn't kill Wanda's kids (who may have also come back since--sigh). The Vision, who had once masterminded a 'for their own good' scheme to take over the world, was later captured by a combined intelligence force and stripped down so he couldn't anymore, then reassembled absent his memories and the emotional attachments to them (Byrne was on a kick to BRUTALLY tear down everything Steve Engelhart did in his run on West Coast Avengers). Wanda, whose was being manipulated into a power escalation by Immortus, started losing it, and her kids started simply winking out of existence, implied to be the emotional distress of their Mom combined with the emotions and memory attachment of their Dad (which also came back later--yeah) not being there anymore. See, they never said the twins weren't magical - they always were. Wanda one time wielded a whole lot of magical power someone was trying to use for evil, and Agatha (who was supposed to be dead, but then wasn't, but who died here, but...ya know) suggested wielding it for her own purposes, which became the babies. BTW, who delivered said babies? Doctor Strange, though it was later called into question whether this was just another of Wanda's projections, since he had also said earlier that there was no problem with how they were conceived, and has spoken many times of chaos magic being for real. A tangent : Some say Wanda may have been infected with the hardcore, madness-making chaos magic during Avengers/JLA, when she was wielding it in the DCU. Anyhoo, they begin to wink out, not-dead-Agatha shows up and explains that their existence was never the cut-and-dry thing Wanda told them, only to have minor WCA baddie Master Pandemonium show up, claiming that his soul quest ended with finding the twins, which he claimed were the missing pieces of his soul, but they weren't, because he implodes and then Mephisto shows up to say the magic was once part of him until Franklin Richards temporarily killed him. These explanations were not some of Byrne's finest work : Master Pandemonium was supposed to have been on his quest many years before Wanda conceived, and the magic she used was from Agatha's corrupted people in New Salem, not Mephisto. But eh. BTW, before MP implodes, we are treated to a loverly scene of his hands being replaced by the twin babies bodies on each arm, wailing in agony. Byrne and babies - not good. After all this, Wanda was treated to have the memories wiped, but this didn't really take. Her own denial from the raw grief did most of that till Immortus made his move, corrupting her during which event she clearly did remember and wanting revenge for that among other reasons. Subsequent Wanda appearances were all over the map on whether she remembered or not, with most seeming to say it was a pain she was dealing with, but preferred not to speak of. One short in an annual had her open a portal to a world where Vision was never remade, the kids were alright and she took comfort that such a place even existed. Sorry to go long, but the last thing I'll mention is Tony's firing. The Avengers' production staff at this time had trouble with understanding the POTUS Cabinet. Tony was in as SOD because the prior one had been Dell Rusk - aka The Red Skull. That one has a page of problems all its own, summed up thusly : Even a villain with the Skull's cleverness and resources would find it way hard to get into that position, if not impossible. As to Tony, it must have been part of Scarlet Witch's magic that got him fired that same day, because scandals worse than his have POTUS's hanging on to their most minor officials for weeks at minimum.

[@The8Ronin]

I come back here some times to remember a simpler time in my life :)

[@trans301]

See, the reason I like the old Avengers (pre-disassembled) better than the new, because the old Avengers had characters you didn't get to see in other books, like the vision and the scarlet witch and hawkeye. The new avengers have people like spiderman and wolverine, both of whom you can read about in 5 other books.

[@samw6414]

ethans little head swivel at the beginning of this video! 😂

[@matiasleon9657]

maaan working for marvel to be "that guy" (the one that tells you "this is wrong") dream job

[@ThatKevinBravo]

Talking about continuity: I read that the time that pass between Civil War and Inifinity was 7 months in the time of the heroes...

[@comicpop]

Wow.

[@matiasleon9657]

Kevin Bravo WAIT. So house of M, secret invation, siege and fear itself happened in *7 months!?* yep...I wouldn't like to live in that universe.

[@HancockVasquez]

Same with Runaways. They disbanded sometime after Avengers Arena back in 2012 and reunited last year in November ... and they say only 2 years have passed from the characters perspective. 2 years. The Inhumans, the time displaced X-Men, Secret Wars, Civil War 2 all happened in the span of two years ... That's just insane.

[@monstermanalex1313]

Starting from the beginning for the first time! I'm mainly here for Marvel comics. There's so many things I'd like to suggest, Bishop: The Last X-Men, Gambit & Bishop, Star Trek/Planet of the Apes, Xtreme X-Men, and any Army of Darkness, and I'm obviously a Bishop fan boy. But, I understand that views, are what matter, so I don't expect these to ever exist lol

[@benandring365]

Back here in 2022 rewatching

[@Taybur10]

Really enjoy your Back Issues series guys! Love how informative they are. Is it possible to do one on the events that occurred in House of M? I'm new'ish to Marvel comics and have a general idea of the events but I'm certain I could learn alot if you did an episode on it. Anyways keep up the good work!

[@ryebreadreturn1]

An actual request?? Hells yes we will make that happen at some point. You rock, Taybur10

[@peacerevolver]

Been watching for years, love you all!

[@Weddep44]

Talkin about my main man Booster Gold.... He's awesome!

[@Weddep44]

He coined the name "Doomsday"

[@The7wc]

Shutty And he's also awesome.

[@The7wc]

"No, I'm just not... a dick."

[@lsmaddog2]

DUDES IM SO HOOKED ON YOUR CHANNEL I LOVE IT I WATCHED ALL THE BACK ISSUES (u totally havent heard that before lol) but yeah awesome job guys! plzzz remember to do that recap ep! :D

[@comicpop]

Dude, thank you!

[@ScooterinAB]

Lol. I love that like, 11 minutes into the video, they haven't started talking about the comic. But man, is it entertaining.

[@ivansplvd6518]

we all ned more old Marvel Bendis books from you :D Thank you for the great content guys Best of The Best

[@Rocketraccoon9458]

Pre couch continuity is great

[@kostashellspawn7]

isn't Captain Britain, Psylocke's brother or somethin'?

[@treyhiggins5796]

U should actually got through marvel and D.C. History from the 2000s to now it would be really fun

[@DanielMendoza-kf6jm]

9:20-10:00 They talk about there will never be a Justice league movie with some of the justice league of the time like fire, ice, and guy gardner, does the CBS Justice League of America tv movie/pilot count? It was released internationally but not domestically. I can be swung either way whether or not this counts. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_of_America_(film) I have not finished the video but I sincerely believe that almost no one knows about it.Also it was supposedly absolutely terrible. It probably isn't worth it to track it down.

[@chadalpha7983]

Hawkeye cooler than Booster Gold? Those are fightin' words

[@l.apastore4208]

I'm English, and a proud Briton. Love your show but don't hate on Cap. Britain

[@super_robot_punch]

There's a bunch of country captains in the ultimate universe lol

[@mitchellharrison9237]

I have no clue how you guys have so little of followers

[@comicpop]

Mitchell, thank you so much for saying so. We really appreciate it.

[@Tuuralihn]

About James Camerons Spidey script: Thing is that he wanted to be payed to write the script. But they wouldn't give him any money before he wrote a first draft. He got so pissed off because of that, so he just wrote a shit script in order to be payed.

[@comicpop]

That makes a lot of sense...

[@kobetharp4420]

😭 episode 4 of backissues my favorite show haven't watched it in years. Though its still just as good as every episode!

[@thepanelbiter9915]

Not to sound like a jerk, but the best thing about rewatching this is the part where Sal lists off Avengers who couldn't sell there own books and then realizing every character he mentions either has or is getting a solo series XD

[@comicpop]

+The Panel Biter It's especially great when you consider the state of those characters eleven years ago.

[@thepanelbiter9915]

and now Hercules and Black Knight and Black Panther, B-Listers are getting books left and right. Just wait, SOMEONE will make Jack of Hearts cool.

[@Ubermensch9240]

5:46 DND has something like that called Unearthed Arcana.

[@troykennen5208]

I want to pick up the trade for this Disassembled. Is there any other major stories that I should pick up before hand to lead me into it?

[@oldfan4049]

25:38 - wasn't it the giant Sentinel that was brought to Genosha by Cassandra Xavier? Like in the "New X-Men" series?

[@Beliasa01]

Yes it was Cassandra Nova who ordered the attack in New X-men #114. The first issue written by Grant Morrison.

[@TheGoauldApophis]

I just discovered this channel today because I was,looking for people other than Linkara who covered Trouble.

[@tmain1320]

Yall should do the back issues on the Spider-Man script!

[@r.babylon2885]

Tremayne Watterson They did.

[@captainawsomeist]

With the exception of Hulk and Captain America, I never cared for the Avengers, when I was growing up they were all lame, but then the movie came out.

[@flywheelshyster]

as this classic came up in my normal feed couldn't help but click. I have what must be a fake memory of the gang doing a back issues of the james cameron spider man in the way you mention here or going into it, perhaps in one of the subscriber milestone 7 hour specials? I think my brain just took what you said in this one and made the rest up lol. all peace always

[@leedriver7029]

A+ Doctor Strange impression

[@badboi6247]

This video is a classic

[@firemonkey0291]

I literally just read this I want to see your opinion. I liked it

[@kyleshea384]

Could you guys do Acts of Vengeance?

[@joshparker9486]

Wow, did Ben call avengers endgame in this episode? Good on ya man!

[@TheGotenza]

Every three years a year passes in marvel continuity.

[@malmazantube]

Actually is every four years. Take for the Clone Saga, the 20 years that actually happened between the original (1970s) and the 90´s one were only 5 years in the comics. ;)

[@robthedude4861]

Holy shit..7 years later this is essentially the plot of Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness

[@Samael_Morningstar666]

Castle is still a nam vet in marvel punisher max

[@450021]

Do Marvel have a specific event or trades for when Wanda introduce and kills off her own children? Please let me know, thanks.

[@OomaGooma]

Tm0450021 - I think that whole incident occurred in West Coast Avengers. I don’t remember which issues it was in.

[@jmail1984]

elseworld's exchange retrospective on BENDIS!

[@ronb113]

Which issue does Jack of Hearts die originally?

[@LaurenTheorist]

I don't mind that comics exist in a timeline where people seem to just age super slowly and I don't mind that the past is changed to fit the modern stories (like which war Flash Thompson fought in). I do get bothered by continuity things like two people meeting 'for the first time' even though they met before.

[@domenicrandolph5600]

Ha this came out on my birthday

[@comicpop]

Domenic Randolph Happy belated!

[@Relugus]

Scarlet Witch was not keen on the magic babies (Vision wanted them) but Doctor Strange told her it was fine and dandy. You forgot to mention that in your review, guys.

[@radiumtheatre]

"The catacombs of comic book continuity"

[@darthwatson8274]

This whole dibacle happened because of Wasp

[@jr2000tec]

Does anyone know the issue sal mentions where the avengers go into the future?

[@djimenez789]

Hahaha did u ever do the video for James Cameron's Spider-Man movie??

[@TheGoauldApophis]

And now they're releasing a Blue Beetle movie.

[@lopson8683]

I can see why this isn't and never will be in the movies.

[@jonbrown1502]

you guys should do avengers prime

[@AnthonyPerez-jn2ht]

I know this is 5 years too late, but anyone know what issue Sal’s referring to at 34:02.? I remember seeing something like that and I can’t for the life of me find it.

[@comicpop]

Avengers (2010) #5

[@AnthonyPerez-jn2ht]

ComicPOP thank you. It’s was driving me crazy!

[@Newarksfinest05]

20:30 lmao

[@bradleyd.9801]

NOT LIKE THIS NOT LIKE THIIIIIIISSSSS

[@YoungChainZ]

Wheres this channel been? PS. Respect Hawkeye

[@comicpop]

Thanks Shane! Nothing but love for Hawkeye. He's just an easy target... /snaredrum

[@YoungChainZ]

Hell yeah. But thats why i try to spread the message. That that guy has no powers and and hes right with the others shooting arrows at the likes of Thanos..etc lol

[@ocskope]

And his current solo title is one of the better ones...

[@marvthemartian001]

@@YoungChainZ It's only the movie fans who diss Hawkeye Comic Fans love Hawkeye especially Fraction run

[@Ubermensch9240]

Linkara would like a word with you.

[@Drewwhip7]

cant dr strange stop magneto?

[@tazzerdevil98]

he wouldn't be concerned at the time as he doesn't use magic on people unless needed.

[@kofteburger]

Terminator does run on a nuclear battery.

[@comicpop]

Only according to the worst sources.

[@kofteburger]

Come on Sarah Connor Chronicles was good.. most of the time.

[@patrickmcpherson6383]

Bens right their were some many captains at once its so dumb TVLittleHouse

[@montyhedstrom1356]

I really don't care for Bendis as a writer at all. He's grossly overrated.

[@SuperMicklovin]

If anything hes underrated. Guy changed the game with Spiderman and Daredevil and his new avengers stuff was dope. Yet everyone always goes to this and calls him a hack. shame.

[@montyhedstrom1356]

Difference of opinion is all it is Supermick. If you like him great. I don't like his writing.

[@SuperMicklovin]

+Monty Hedstrom Can I ask why ? I know people get turned off by his verboise sometimes.

[@SuperMicklovin]

+SuperMicklovin *verbose*

[@montyhedstrom1356]

I don't like his writing style. Everyone speaks in the same voice. Characterizations are horrible. He writes people like he wants to without regard to how other writers including their creaters have characterized them. His storytelling is bad. He'll have a pretty good idea soemtimes but then he drags it out needlessly and ruins it with sloppy execution. His huge ego doesn't help matters.

[@Relugus]

Byrne and Bendis wrote some of the most poisonous misogynistic drivel ever to have (dis)graced comics. Bendis uses almost every character assassination trope against Wanda, and misses the whole point of her character.

[@wombatjo3022]

For me the worst part is Bendis thinking "How can I reveal the truth about the babies...Hey women can't keep their mouths shut or keep a secret. Done whats for lunch?" Glad you brought up Byrne I assume you know why Invisible Girl decided to change her name to Invisible Woman, if not read up on that, yeah a real treat.

[@servantofka]

Holy shit, your comment did not age well at all. Moron

[@michaelthethird702]

#StopItAquaman

[@superluigiac]

Not like this!

[@robertt9342]

Saying hello from the future, a couple of years from now marvels content becomes pretty inconsistent.

[@edwin831]

Man these older episodes are the shit, I got in around episode 40ish and have been stuck ever since. I always wonder why they left the store but it makes more sense to do it at Sal's house. And if I'm honest, I'm not a huge fan of the studio just because I came in with the iconic imagery of them on the red couch

[@TheGotenza]

Also, HOWWWWWW DARE YOU INSULT BOOSTER GOLD!!!!!!!!!!! You can insult Ted Kord Blue Beetle though... Not Iron ma- I mean Hiayme Reayes Blue Beetle

[@TheGotenza]

Nikolas Mokalis Well I actually really like Ted Kord now

[@LiMe251]

There are 3 ant-men

[@tooply6739]

nerds............................................................................................. jok

[@brya9681]

Justice League and DC are lame because they have a shitty trump card that is Superman that can't be beat so why do they ever have problems?

[@DeadMan-qd2qt]

bryan augustus cause there are guys that superman have a pretty hard time against? Like Darksied and Mongul?

[@supoa9489]

bryan augustus You obviously don't read DC comics