Quote-"So all these years later Todd Mcfarlane was right about this Guy?"
@Madbandit7714 күн бұрын
Guess so...🤔
@ComicsPerch14 күн бұрын
Yep!
@JihoSSJ514 күн бұрын
oh to be a fly on the wall in Todd's office right now...
@lacolem114 күн бұрын
Todd’s looking downright prophetic these days, considering PAD’s unfortunate situation after years of Big 2 loyalty, and now Gaiman *allegedly* being a demon
@Madbandit7714 күн бұрын
@@lacolem1 Shame what's happened to Peter David because he's a great writer, but I guess he made too many bad decisions.
@bretts807013 күн бұрын
1. I'm not surprised at this point. 2. Having read the entire Vulture article I'm inclined to believe these accounts of his actions. 3. Even if I didn't, always force my ideological enemies to live by their own stupid rules. In this case, "Believe All Women." Neil Gaiman told us to do that, so he's ethically obligated to accept the charges against him without question.
@gordons-alive494012 күн бұрын
Even if you accept his version of what happened, and I'm not saying you should, but for the sake of argument, if you did, Gaiman certainly took advantage of women who were employed by him.
@KClouisville14 күн бұрын
The contrast between how comics "media" has handled this compared to how Ed Piskor's stuff was handled is pretty glaring....as is how the same morally righteous people who had their pitchforks out for him have pretty 200x tamer dealing with this Gaiman stuff....despite it being in another realm of severity.
@Madbandit774 күн бұрын
Neil has (or pre-scandal) a superstar reputation while Ed's rep was fringe yet more pristine. I don't think Ed cared about having a big spotlight on him as he felt the comic book medium should have on itself.
@KClouisville4 күн бұрын
@@Madbandit77 Ed also didn't check all the boxes for some of these people like Gaiman did in the realm of personal activism, speaking on political issues and the like. Sure, at times he could be abrasive about stuff he didn't like on his channel, but he primarily just loved the world of comics and didn't play the politics game. I think this, coupled with the fact his biggest success was a hip-hop comic (coming from a white guy, albeit one from a poor/working class background) ruffled a lot of feathers. It's like Evan Dorkin seemed to have a big falling out with him before any of those texts came out....and the only reason I can see is Evan didn't like Ed and Jim having guys like McFarlane and Liefeld on their channel (I remember him Tweeting and deleting several digs about that)....all the while Ed never did anything but speak highly of Evan. After Ed's suicide Evan still defended people like De Campi and Villalobos....people who were actually blatantly making things up about a guy (that he was homophobic, a pedophile, had a burner account) who would kill himself within a week. I never cared for De Campi or Villalobos, but I lost most of the respect I had for Dorkin after that. Then, when these Gaiman accusations initially surfaced, the most he did was Tweet some bit questioning why "the Dream King" (or some nickname he created for him on the spot) was silent about them. He didn't even have the balls to say Gaiman's name (other people in the comments had to explain it to people who didn't know). That's how the majority of the comics industry...which loves to show how "progressive" and "socially conscious" they are, have treated it. It's disgusting.
@Madbandit774 күн бұрын
@@KClouisville The ironic thing about Dorkin is, during the Ed Piskor scandal/tragedy, is he's become like the Eltingville characters he's created, nasty and non-humble. He was apologetic on X after Ed's passing, but it came out of desperation. I think people forgot that the comic books community is the original "safe space" where creativity, responsible individualism and quirkiness flourish, not an absolute sociopolitical battleground where dogmatic ideas had to be embraced. BTW, I didn't mind Ed associated comic books with hip-hop because rap legend Darryl McDaniels of "Run DMC" noted, in his memoir, that comic books, hip-hop and the martial arts films of the 70s were outlaw forms of entertainment for any Gen Xers or older Millennials who were Black and nerdy, me included.
@KClouisville4 күн бұрын
@@Madbandit77 Eltingville is one of those things that I think reveals a lot about Dorkin....it was actually one of my least favorite things he ever did because it basically wallows in negativity and presents a world where everyone is the exaggerated worst version of themselves they could be. I grew up in the '80s and went to comic book shops...did guys like that exist? Sure, but to act like that was the general norm is ridiculous. I grew up in a city in friggin' Kentucky and we had comic book shops that had female staffers, welcomed female readers (however many there actually were then), etc. It paints with far too broad a brush, but since it's a "safe" target socially, no one cares. I think he did feel bad after Ed died (saying his words obviously hurt Ed since he was mentioned in his note), but I saw some Blue Sky posts of his after that where he defended De Campi and Villalobos and said they were just trying to protect women in comics, which is a total horseshit copout. He was running with the whole "It was Comicsgate people who fanned the flames" crock. Did some of those guys do that? Yes, but to act like your friends, who were basically libeling the guy up to the day of his death, were doing something altruistic is just gross....people have screenshots of the stuff they said Evan. Good lord. As to the whole HHFT thing.....the critics whipping out the whole "culture vulture" thing seem to conveniently forget that Ed grew up between the early '80s to the late '90s in predominantly black neighborhoods. To act like hip hop isn't going to be an influence on him in his formative years is insane. You'd have thought he was some private school white kid from somewhere like Maine or Vermont to read some of that stuff.
@benwrigley617610 күн бұрын
And his wife Amanda Palmer was complicit, and even aided in the entrapment and abuse of these women. For years
@AF-tv6uf9 күн бұрын
THANK YOU! Nobody is mentioning it, and I'm starting to fear she'll get off and be a pipeline for more abuse.
@davea13614 күн бұрын
Bill Waterson is who society claims it wants. Neil Gaiman is who society lavishly rewards. We learned it from you, Dad. We learned it from you.
@spheremode327114 күн бұрын
This has been a rude awakening for a lot of people because Gaiman acted all feminist and woke. People focus too much on celebrities branding themselves, not realizing it may actually not represent who they really are.
@willadkins135414 күн бұрын
Like Joss Whedon, again
@stephennootens91614 күн бұрын
It is a reminder that some people hide the fact they are monsters by saying the right thing.
@Madbandit7714 күн бұрын
@ It's not that they say the right thing, but they say it TOO LOUDLY. When a guy says they're a male feminist, like Gaiman and Whedon, they're doing it to get laid.
@santiagovazquezvilarino679114 күн бұрын
I agree but I don't like how it is being weaponized to attack "the other side" indiscriminately like that is gonna paint a good picture of anything.
@HkFinn8314 күн бұрын
@@stephennootens916 it’s beyond ‘saying the right thing’. Going out of your way to make the creepiest male feminist statements that are just open ‘branding’ is what it is. Unfortunately women don’t have any intuition for this kind of man
@clonegeek331714 күн бұрын
The scientology stuff with Gaiman is what I think needs to be talked about more and how the abused become abusers
@alexdawson457114 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@obi_dean14 күн бұрын
Idk if scientology abused him or opened the doors/enabled to become the monster we see before us. Last I checked his parents were higher up members but I could be wrong. Neil is what they call a hush scientologist like will smith
@dai1972114 күн бұрын
do you think its true tho?
@obi_dean14 күн бұрын
@@dai19721 unfortunately yes. He is a hush scientologist like will smith
@duxnihilo14 күн бұрын
That's not fair. I was abused and know a lot of people that were abused. We've never abused anyone.
@Octavius_DelMonte14 күн бұрын
I'm bittersweet that the writer/artist of my favorite manga/anime Yu-Gi-Oh went out trying to save others from drowning. Now compare the impact of Gaiman and Takahashi, both from a creative and social standpoint. Who wins? King of Games all day baby.
@Oldtakunovideo7911 күн бұрын
Wait, what? I didn't grow up with Yugi Oh, but respect if that's true
@kevintanza696810 күн бұрын
@@Oldtakunovideo79 Yep, it's true.
@tommyfishhouse805014 күн бұрын
It's Marion Zimmer Bradley all over again. Remember her? She was this darling of a science fiction/fantasyauthor that everyone loved that was put on a pedestal as an example of progressive virtue. Turns our she was the worst child predator, and tons of people in the publishing industry covered for her because they were worried about the message it would send if their symbol of progressive virtue got exposed to be a monster. If Gaiman is guilty and this isn't another Vic Mignogna/Johnny Depp situation. He needs to pay for it absolutely. But we also need to take a look at the system and the people who covered for him for all these years, and make sure they suffer some kind of consequence too.
@Trustme7713 күн бұрын
Holy crap, seriously? I have one of the "Sword And Sorceress" anthologies she put together lying around somewhere. All I knew was that she had passed years ago, and this is the first I'm hearing of any of this. Jesus... We always have to consider the possibility of false accusations such as those against Depp and (while I don't know as much about this one, it does sound like the case from what I have heard) against Mignogna, I agree. Everybody is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law, and yet so many people these days just assume guilt. Not as in "I believe this person is guilty as sin, but they have a right to a trial and a defense, and if they were proven innocent I would acknowledge that." I mean as in "This person is guilty as sin, and in a better world they wouldn't even get a trial! If they go to trial and get a verdict of not guilty then shame on the judge and jury!"
@ulexite-tv10 күн бұрын
Yes, i remember Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley. Thank you for mentioning them.
@JDPetty099014 күн бұрын
They say the worst part of things like this is the hypocrisy, but I disagree... In all seriousness, I have only read Coraline (and enjoyed it). This was a case where the cult of personality surrounding Gaiman kind of turned me off from really getting into his work, and this news does not help motivate me. That said, despite the nature of these accusations, his stories should not be erased.
@kostantza114 күн бұрын
I got into his stories way before I became aware of a cult of personality around him - if anything I only knew him through the themes he wrote about and the way he approached fantasy.The last few years had given me enough signals that he had jumped some sort of shark, personality- if not writing-wise. I am violently put off by people overexposing themselves - I know that at some point, when you speak too much, you'll say something stupid.Then, with the adaptations, he showed he didn't care for his own work's integrity, something he till then claimed to do. Then this....I've drifted away long before this, but though I don't intend to disavow his works that have shaped for me, I will need to have a reckoning with them at some point. I never worshipped him, but when you've devoted so much time to his work, you do feel profound disappointment. And his hypocrisy between what he wrote and how he acted is pathetic too.
@DioBrando-qr6ye13 күн бұрын
@@kostantza1Regarding what he wrote VS how he acted, there is an episode of Sandman that if you read today you cannot help to think about him. It's about a successful feminist writer that turns out to be an abuser.
@thelestrangelair12 күн бұрын
Read American gods, it's so great. And the graveyard boy. I don't care what a person is like if the story is good because it's cutting off my book to spite them. LOL. I think the girls are wack, and he's a perve, and they are just as guilty yet they are not being held accountable for playing along with him and crying later about it. Bella L
@kostantza112 күн бұрын
@@DioBrando-qr6ye Calliope.It's things like these that will make me wonder now every time I think back at his work, and I don't think it'll ever hit the same unfortunately.
@Aaron-zt5ee10 күн бұрын
I really loved Sandman and American Gods. He was a talented writer and I’m sad to see he turned out to be a creep.
@adamfrey492014 күн бұрын
Val D'Orazio has a depressing but insightful longform tweet today. Essentially, comics is small, insular, and insecure, so they want to be good guys but only to the limited extent it benefits them.
@JP-199014 күн бұрын
As much as I never enjoyed the "Dr. Who but IRL" persona he gave off, or his core fanbase of tumblr-addicted theater kids, it's deeply saddening that this happened if true. I've enjoyed a great many of his works, and considered him quite the trailblazer.
@garou1214 күн бұрын
what if u found out he shamelessly plagiarized and took credit for other women's work? how would that affect how u see him
@JP-199014 күн бұрын
@garou12 It would be quite a bummer. But I'd need to make sure I have all the facts straight.
@ChristineP22314 күн бұрын
Did he sign that “I won’t -- my co-workers” pledge back in the day?
@ComicsPerch14 күн бұрын
He did
@ChristineP22314 күн бұрын
@@ComicsPerchGuess it didn’t apply to his household staff
@SchweitzerMan14 күн бұрын
@ChristineP223 Well of course not. That applied to coworkers, not your own employees
@kidicarus221514 күн бұрын
If you need to sign a statement like that, it's not worth the paper it's written on.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
Yes
@elizaearhart453314 күн бұрын
I think this is interesting to me as somebody who only knew Gaiman for the longest time from his tumblr. I remember when I was in high school around 2016 that he said some stuff on his tumblr that just screamed out that “nice guy” trope and I told my friend right then that he just seemed odd to me. I picked up a couple of his books from the thrift bec I didn’t want to support him directly back then, and I played myself there, bec I read them recently and actually semi- enjoyed them (not amazing though. He comes off pretentious in his writing IMO). But it’s so interesting that even as a teenage girl in a very liberal setting that my vibes were correct. Now I just feel bad for my friend who practically worshipped the ground he walked on. (An unfortunate side note on that is that I was gonna make her a custom bind of her fav book Good Omens, but uh, yeah that gift got scrapped after hours of work and a year of planning once this all came out)
@TsunamiWombat14 күн бұрын
good omens was 90% pratchett
@elizaearhart453314 күн бұрын
@@TsunamiWombat Yeah I’ve realized that now that I’ve read some more Gaiman books. I’ve been meaning to give Guards, Guards a try and hopefully that will be more of the parts of Good Omens that I liked!
@turtleanton653914 күн бұрын
@@elizaearhart4533guards guards is way better imo😊 gpod omens is good to😊
@ObscureDraws14 күн бұрын
No one cares if you are a creepy weirdo if you are hot and popular. If you shift over and become washed up, they care.
@Madbandit7714 күн бұрын
"shift over"?
@gordons-alive494012 күн бұрын
Gaiman wasn't really washed when this story broke, though. Not even close.
@Gordon-n2x14 күн бұрын
I hate to see Warren Ellis get dragged into this conversation, although the comparisons are probably inevitable. The difference is there’s a strong argument that Ellis didn’t do anything wrong, whereas it looks more and more clear that Gaiman did do something wrong, the question is what exactly was was wrong about it, and was any of it illegal?
@lacolem114 күн бұрын
Iirc, everything involving Ellis was consensual. But the comics media was quick to destroy him
@agent_meister47714 күн бұрын
Who cares what Bleedin' Cool has to say about anything? An insult from a fool is no insult at all.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
They have not said anything about this whole Gaiman stuff until now
@puxtbuck673114 күн бұрын
Maybe I’m just sexually repressed or something but the argument that he did or didn’t do wrong is just stupid because they’re not disputing these things happened. They’re saying it was consensual which we will probably never truly know 100% if it was. Regardless, the dude is a creep
@gordons-alive494012 күн бұрын
Even if you accept Gaiman's story, and I'm not saying we should, but even his version of events has him taking advantage of two women who were employed by him and who he knew were at difficult points in their lives.
@ianhowe33814 күн бұрын
I still like Tori Amos. Not so much her recent stuff. But all those 1990s albums slap. I wonder if she’s going to weigh in at some point?
@BlackMath6914 күн бұрын
she has made a statement
@thelestrangelair12 күн бұрын
She did say it's devistating if true. Yes she does rule, the earlier albums.
@marigoann275514 күн бұрын
I had no idea how people actually saw him in the 90's, which is fascinating and surprisingly a bit sobering to learn. Used to be a huge fan for a super brief period of time, so it's interesting to hear what others outside of this bubble thought about him.
@silverheart404914 күн бұрын
All the signs were there, sure, but he's talented and clearly very charming to many people. Same old story, unfortunately. I don't think we'll ever quash this kind of thing.
@alexdawson457114 күн бұрын
I don't think so either. And it's something that I think people will need to come to terms with; that even bad people can make good art, and you shouldn't feel ashamed for liking someone's work because you didn't know.
@HkFinn8314 күн бұрын
@@alexdawson4571you should feel ashamed for calling Neil gaiman books art though
@WeirdTale14 күн бұрын
@@HkFinn83 No. Plenty of hso work is overrated, but American God's and Sandman were genuinely good. It's just that he was over marketed on vibes. Kinda fucked now that urban fantasy fans have to live with the guilt of enabling this guy even if it was without their knowledge.
@HkFinn8314 күн бұрын
@ read American gods, it’s sub Stephen King level garbage.
@andrewdau129910 күн бұрын
This is a very somber and thorough video on not just Neil Gaiman but the comic book industry and comic book journalists who enabled him. Hopefully, the people who enabled him do some self-reflection but I doubt it.
@BarsimonR11 күн бұрын
has anyone who now says Gaiman had "red flags" way back then posted an article or a blog more than one year old where they say that? I am not defending Gaiman, if he is guilty he should suffer the full consequences of the law and be ostracized from society. But the amount of Hindsight Prophets popping up is amazing
@mydemon6 күн бұрын
People are in shock, grieving, and saying all kinds of stupid shit.
@KClouisville4 күн бұрын
I understand that to a degree.....but unless they had solid evidence, posting an article or a blog is a dangerous thing. Gaiman has deep pockets....and came up among Scientologists....who'll sue your ass for blinking the wrong way. Most people in the comics industry don't have the kind of power he did. So it basically becomes a scenario where people who've heard things will warn other people close to them if they have to deal with said person.
@user-jz5cf9ob5h14 күн бұрын
Loved his work on Miracleman
@Firevine13 күн бұрын
I haven't watched the channel in forever because I've been pretty much over comics, and man, what a week to come back.
@jojomojofofo12 күн бұрын
Same
@Distortion014 күн бұрын
I'd be interested in hearing your ideas around how we fix this. Like if the answer is people just need to be brave enough to put their livelihoods on the line at any moment then I don't think it's ever going to be fixed.
@benwrigley617610 күн бұрын
When this whole time he was doing this shit. Targeting very young, impressionable and most importartantly vunerable women.
@univeriseman800814 күн бұрын
Problem is his PR defended it by saying whatever he did was legal so they acknowledged he did sexual stuff. They are recorded of saying his actions were consent
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
People can be into kinky things, and there's certain stuff I'll let people do to me that would not appeal to most others (not on the level of what Neil's accused of, mind you). The thing is that between stories like this and stories told by non-famous people too, it seems like the world of BDSM attracts a lot of abusers. Other people who are into kinky stuff too have told me, for example, "Be VERY sure you can trust somebody if they tie you up, because you'll be vulnerable to anything they feel like doing to you. If you're with somebody who cares about your feelings and is trying not to cause you distress, who'll stop as soon as you give the signal because that's what the two of you agreed on, then you're fine. But if you're with somebody who's going to do insane things to you that leave you a physical and emotional wreck, then they can claim you consented to that, they can point to how you've consented to other kinks, and it'll be your word against theirs." There are some real horrific people in this world who see that whole scene as a perfect cover to allow them to get away with whatever they want. There are also people who are the opposite, who are not abusers and who are like "I'm only going to do what you're comfortable with or curious about, and the instant you signal me that it's getting too intense for you, I'll stop," and they say that sincerely. The trick is figuring out which is which, and I don't believe anybody's able to do that from the very beginning. So I guess all I can think to add is "be careful"...and be careful who you trust even if you don't do anything kinky at all, too.
@quixotiq8 күн бұрын
Simply being a sleaze is not illegal. These women are blaming Gaiman for their own complicity. You can"t claim rape if you simply go along with someone's behaviour. Women DO have to take responsibiity .
@davariusjessup394314 күн бұрын
Another artistic professional with skeletons in their closet? Who doesn't have them at this point?
@theeternalgus911913 күн бұрын
I'm too poor to afford a closet.
@kestrel123414 күн бұрын
Will Death be portrayed as a goth girl again?
@MichaelWaisJr14 күн бұрын
🤞
@InfamyOrDeath-__-14 күн бұрын
“Gaiman did nothing wrong!!”…. Watches videos about it…. Eh never mind.
@PhantomHarlock7814 күн бұрын
You know those videos you made about comic book villains being lame? I see a lot of folks connecting Sandman villains and violence with Gaiman personal life. This can make writers dumb down even more edge stuff in comics.
@WeirdTale14 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is a problem. Writers limiting themselves because of connecting to actual celebrity criminal behavior is something that does happen.
@solomonallen352414 күн бұрын
1st Peter David and now Neil gaiman...Todd mcfarlane is somewhere laughing 😂😅
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
I'm not going to get into specifics--least if I don't want to waste a whole lot of time arguing with people over David's positions--but Peter David has said things that made me lose respect for him as a person, and he has expressed approval for certain real world events that made me lose respect for him as a person. I haven't read anything he wrote either online or published in years, but I remember back when I still bothered to read his opinions he would look down his nose at fans, and he would be extremely self-righteous even when defending things that I considered indefensible. Basically I see him like this: take Mark Waid and dial him back about 50%. Imagine this Mark Waid who's still full of rage but not as much rage, who's got bad opinions but is somewhat less obnoxious about telling you that he's right and you're wrong (or worse) if you disagree, and you've got Peter David.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
@@Trustme77why? What did he say??
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw I'm surely an idiot for answering this, but okay, I guess I'm an idiot... Ask Noam Chomsky to tell you his opinion on Israel and the Gaza Strip, if you ever get a chance to do so. Noam Chomsky's opinion is one I agree with. Ask Peter David to tell you HIS opinion on Israel and the Gaza Strip, if you ever get a chance to do so. Unless he has changed his world view a LOT in the years since I stopped following him, his opinion will be the complete opposite of Noam Chomsky's. And I could not possibly disagree with him more on that.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
@Trustme77 what, he sides with Israel or something or like that?
@garou1214 күн бұрын
@@Trustme77 having met peter david it doesn't bother me he has rightwing views. because he treated me like a person.
@RP-ve7bl14 күн бұрын
It won't be long until only Mark Millar and Rob Liefeld are deemed acceptable as comics creators...
@solomonallen352414 күн бұрын
Marc silvestri and Todd mcfarlane is somewhere laughing 😂😅
@matthewmilan697914 күн бұрын
If we could get Jim Lee, Brevoort, Geppi and Gaiman together in a tub we could solve all the problems of the comic book industry. Rub-a-dub-dub!
@luciferfernandez709414 күн бұрын
Sorry, me never being around comic book conventions I never heard anything but praise for the guy - maybe save Todd Mcfarlane for obvious reasons - Gaiman’s “mastery” is new to me. Your comment on “journalists” is spot on!
@tonygriego638214 күн бұрын
Absolutely nothing more trustworthy than a male feminist
@TsunamiWombat14 күн бұрын
What happened to "lets watch neutrally and let this go to court"? Literally in your last video?? "Please do not bring it up in the comments"? What should happen is a fair due process???? SIXTEEN HOURS AGO???? edit: oh great, he admitted to doing the stuff. fantastic. faaaantastic. nevermind. i'm tired boss.
@ComicsPerch14 күн бұрын
Yeah, that’s why this one is different. There are still allegations that aren’t concluded, but in this case there is a lot more that isn’t speculation now.
@DelRio199114 күн бұрын
I've never really been interested in Neil Gaiman's work. I prefer the books by his doppelganger, Neil Straightman
@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats14 күн бұрын
It's always nice to see Perch get off his fence. And I completely agree with his reasons behind Warren Ellis's downfall. As for Gaiman, I never really understood the hype. I read a few things he wrote, and he struck me as more clever than good.
@WeirdTale14 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree. Sandman and American God's where his only good shit. Everything else is over hyped.
@luciferfernandez709414 күн бұрын
I agree with Gaiman being clever - most people forget two names that got Gaiman into comics: Alan Moore opened the door, and Gaiman walked through it in hand with Dave Mckean, which is something akin Steven Spielberg being a combo with John Williams. Then he got into book publishing in hands with Terry Prachett and since them he only regurgitated Sandman until he got into movie screenwriting in hand with Roger Avary… and such the story goes.
@leonevelake13 күн бұрын
He at least was clever and good... But never as clever as he thought he was. That's said 90% of sandman is fantastic. American gods is one of my favorite books and the movie version of Stardust is great.
@jamesmcclure390714 күн бұрын
I haven’t been too impressed with Netflix’ SANDMAN tv series, so I’m betting we can expect that to stop be produced (if it wasn’t already)…that said, it’s metaphorically telling that Gaiman himself voices the decaying vulture in “a dream of cats” episode…to a broken hearted female…that is struggling to find their way.
@kostantza114 күн бұрын
His American Gods series was an affront to his own book - the very first scene butchered and outright mocked one of my most favourite and impactful scenes in his book. I gave up on him for good then. He always emphasized the internal rationale and meaning of his works that he wouldn't have compromised, allegedly. From what I've seen Sandman is more of the same.There is no genuine whimsy for me anymore - it's all corporate mascarading as the works I loved. My sympathies to anyone who's a fan, but I won't be sad if it gets cancelled. Only nice thing was Charles Dance as Roderick Burgess for me.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
It will be cancelled
@leonevelake13 күн бұрын
@@kostantza1 It wasn't great but the casting for Mr Wensday was amazing
@kostantza112 күн бұрын
@ Ian McShane never disappoints.Shadow's actor was good, too.The character was made bland.
@miless54414 күн бұрын
Gaiman contends it was all consensual. He needs to hire Jian Ghomeshi's lawyer.
@BrettCaton13 күн бұрын
The trouble is that he pushed "Believe All Women". So he was personally fine with pushing other men under the bus, but as soon as his turn comes, suddenly he wants due process instead.
@superjlk_953814 күн бұрын
People on the fringe of society make art. Sometimes those people on the fringe are messed up a little bit. Mundane and boring people don’t make good art. You have to be creative and a little weird. It’s just unfortunate that some people are creeps.
@FlameForgedSoul14 күн бұрын
Well said.
@HkFinn8314 күн бұрын
You’re talking like he’s Oscar Wilde. He’s a pop writer. Just a classic ‘nice guy’ who got success and access to women later in life. This is what happens.
@davidgantenbein936214 күн бұрын
I wonder, do people help him to cover up just because he is famous … or do they secretly envy him for what he got allegedly away with before?
@alexdawson457114 күн бұрын
I think it depends on the person. Both definitely happen, though.
@folly668214 күн бұрын
Its true success does excuse bad behavior in a lot of places. The thing is that most of these people aren't successful (successful for comics, but not in absolute terms). The few who are successful aren't in a position to bring anyone else along with them. So why tolerate the bad behavior?
@kevinhortachata970012 күн бұрын
From everything I've read, it seems like his ex-wife was in on it and tried to cover up for him. Surprised no one is taking about it
@ascorvinus14 күн бұрын
I disagree that CBR, Bleeding Cool, et al, will approach this with circumspection. As soon as they’re sure they won’t get any blowback, they’ll go for Neil like they went for Ed Piskor. Not because they see him as an enemy, but just because their first love is hurting people, whether they deserve it or not.
@adamfrey492014 күн бұрын
To their limited credit, BC largely stayed away from Ed Piskor, although their coverage of his suicide was markedly sterile. The speculation is that this is because Rich desperately wants to get into Alex deCampi's bed.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw14 күн бұрын
@@adamfrey4920 he and BC are also not covering this Gaiman stuff either and crickets about it
@TemplesmithOfficial14 күн бұрын
I do find the hypocrisy, especially in the media circles, quite facinating & enraging. Yeah the comics media, but definitely mainstream too, if you look at Maryln Manson's treatment on the same day, as Gaiman's, in The Guardian as well. & both those guys can sue if they want. So it's not just about that! ( The comic sites are easily cowed... if say, you're a former IDW president being sued by *the* "MeToo" lawyer, Gloria Allred, for something he did at IDW, only to pay off the victims, get NDA's and then threaten Bleeding Cool with a lawsuit if they don't remove any mention of his uh "issues". Lucky for him it was really only small enough to be in the comics sphere. Apart from the primary victims in all this, it's folks like Colleen Doran I feel really badly for. She just can't seem to win & doesn't deserve any of this. & I had no idea about the Gaiman stuff ( trying to sleep with everyone that moved ) until last year, since I'm not in the cool circles! All I got was the public persona.
@MrCarlosj014 күн бұрын
One thing i learned from this Neil Gaiman situation: Never go a2m unless you clean it first.
@JJTWrites14 күн бұрын
😂
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
I cannot foresee a day or any circumstances in which this will ever be BAD advice. 😅
@Firevine13 күн бұрын
I can't help but think of that scene from Clerks 2 now.
@todd839814 күн бұрын
Thanks to inflation, rage-dollars don't go as far as they used to.
@leonevelake13 күн бұрын
Im gonna pretend to be one of the " i never liked his stuff" guys I loved sandman ( except for the game of you) and american gods. But even back when i read sandman there were some bits that made me think " why did he think that was the way it would happen" I mean its dangerous to assume someone writing a nasty scene is nasty... but the logic was odd to me a few times. Makes it hard not to believe somw of this stuff.
@garou1214 күн бұрын
i mentioned this at wes' channel and it's been deleted twice. a friend of tanith lee posted on facebook that gaimen lifted whole passages from her book for sandman and that he's plagiarized other writers as well. sooo this might be something u might wanna discuss.
@quixotiq8 күн бұрын
Horrific. Now that's definitely illegal, if true
@mayhemltd14 күн бұрын
So, if this seems to have been an open secret, how come no one was saying anything? That seems cowardly. (My apologies. I'm actually listening and you answered my question).
@kendershot14 күн бұрын
Wait, the guy who wrote about weird and creepy shit was into creepy and weird shit?
@stephennootens91614 күн бұрын
To be fair not everyone who writes weird and creep shit turn out be into weird and creepy. I mean Lovecraft wrote weird shit and he was just a xenophobia who thought sex was disgusting.
@WeirdTale14 күн бұрын
Thing is that horror writers that write far worse shit than he has are far better people IRL but aren't as famous. Either fame got to his head and he went mad with hedonism. Or a ton of famous people are artificially propped up into fame form the start that either have such depraved weaknesses or are influenced and manipulated into falling deep into depravity to have blackmail at the ready to control them to say and do certain things when they need to.
@stephennootens91614 күн бұрын
@WeirdTale this is largely true. The worst thing you cab say about the most famous horror writer is that he is a recovering addict. Odd side note as someone trying to broaden my horror reading there are a good deal of women writers in the genre once you get pass the two or so big names.
@kostantza114 күн бұрын
@@stephennootens916 We should strive to introduce people to Tanith Lee.Let something marginally good come from this.
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
I never read Gaiman's stuff, so this is easier for me to handle than a big fan of his would. I did read Watchmen, however, and now I'm hoping that Alan Moore has nothing to hide, because I AM a fan of Alan Moore, who has also written weird and creepy shit.
@VeritatisQ13 күн бұрын
What did Macfarlane say about Gaiman in the past? Any links?
@wallyhackenslacker12 күн бұрын
I don't know the exact details, but I would imagine it must have been something said during their famously intense legal battle over the characters of Angela and Medieval Spawn. That's where I would start searching.
@IosifStalin211 күн бұрын
These things happen……I dislike Kevin Sorbo’s politics but I love his Hercules
@stephennootens91614 күн бұрын
I think the only thing of his I read was Good Omens which he co wrote with Terry Pratchett.
@valeriemcdonald44014 күн бұрын
I love Terry Pratchett. I've always felt like I should read Good Omens for Terry Pratchett's contribution. Now I feel like the pressure's off lol
@alexdawson457114 күн бұрын
The only major thing I'd like to read from Gaiman, if I'm being honest is Sandman? Aside from that, I've never been big into his work.
@furwerkstudio205714 күн бұрын
I remember him on the Anti,-gravity room and I remember him talking about bading Delirium on Tori Amos which at the time bring young and a different time thought it was like how creators based characters on actors, people they know and do on.... It's very with unnerving to go back to that interview, like Dave Sim interview....
@garou1214 күн бұрын
perch what do u mean his behavior was already being whispered about in the 90s within the comic industry
@ComicsPerch13 күн бұрын
His behavior was talked about widely in the 90s.
@ComicsOdyssey14 күн бұрын
Rage dollar. That’s a great idiom!
@josephpantolon14 күн бұрын
Neal Adams never issues like this…
@clonegeek331714 күн бұрын
What a strange week for comics
@clonegeek331714 күн бұрын
One thing comics should learn from Manga is that the people making it act like actual adults
@kidicarus221514 күн бұрын
Eesh.. I'm not sure about this. I just think that we're not exposed to some of the things that go on behind the scenes in manga. And, no, I don't want to know. Knowing about the dude behind Kenshin is enough. I don't want to go digging for any more dirt.
@Beelzeboogie14 күн бұрын
*ahem* Rurouni Kenshin
@Firevine13 күн бұрын
Too bad the fans don't
@spaceknight79310 күн бұрын
It keeps happening because so long as there are celebrities there will be devotees who are desperate to get close to them. That desperation is EASY to take advantage of. Exploiters deserve all the scorn they get. But save some for those who ignore the early signs and stick around long after they should have walked away.
@metsrus11 күн бұрын
Gaiman is that lustful satyr Aristaeus in the Sandman series, who chased after Orpheus' wife and caused her death. He precipitated the ordeal of Orpheus and caused the chain of events that led to the destruction of Dream by the Furies.
@aYT-hs6kj14 күн бұрын
We are never getting Miracleman: The Dark Age now are we?
@tonyfrickey90628 күн бұрын
I was thinking we'd never get it to begin with especially with how long it took for them to finish the silver age..
@pearlfeather932611 күн бұрын
They keep happening with certain kind of people
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
I feel like Rich Johnston, if he actually is friends with Neil (like a select number of people) and if he doesn't want to believe that any of this is true (like tons and tons of people who enjoy comics, and I'm feeling very lucky I never got around to reading any of this guy's stuff), should write something like this: "I've heard the allegations against Neil Gaiman. I'm going to leave it to others to report on that, and I encourage you to read their coverage. I'm choosing not to cover it myself. That's because in the legal system where somebody is brought to trial and it happens that the judge is good friends with them, or related to them, or a business partner, something in that vein, the judge will recuse themselves. They won't hear the case, because they'll say that they aren't sure that they can be impartial given their relationship with the defendant. They'll say that even if they did manage to be impartial, it would be bad optics, and people would always wonder whether the judge went too easy now and then. I'm sad to say that I don't know if I can be impartial after having spent so much time talking to Neil over the years, and even if I were there would still be questions about my coverage, too. So I'm going to stick to things I know that I can report on fairly and without bias. All that I'll say is that I really hope he's not guilty. Thanks everyone." Of course, if he wrote that after a career full of pronouncing people he DIDN'T like as definitely guilty and not recusing himself in their cases, people would point out his hypocrisy. But even so, that might still be better than him being like "let's not jump to conclusions, innocent until proven guilty, that's not what I usually say but in this case I like his politics so I'm giving him as much benefit of the doubt as I can..." Edit: About hypocrisy among creators, I noticed that too. Like, the people who wrote lots of these stories played a part in shaping my morality as a child. They showed me that Spider-Man, or Batman, or whichever hero it was with an exception here and there, didn't kill bad guys. It would be wrong of them to do what the Punisher does, the stories said to me. They also wrote stories showing how whenever the villain would take hostages or hide behind innocent bystanders, the hero would never even THINK of doing anything that could harm the bystanders, because that would be wrong as well. They would talk about how wrong that was IRL, not just in comics. But later, as an adult, I would look at what the same people were saying on the internet, and they were saying the opposite! They were actually saying that some people deserve killing, and that some people deserve killing so much that it's okay to take out a whole lot of innocent bystanders along with them. Or they would always write about how Magneto was wrong with his ends justify the means approach, but fast forward to now and you have all of these people IRL saying that the ends do justify the means, especially against the orange man. I wish that all of them would have the kind of boy scout mentality, a.k.a. "a conscience", that Steve Rogers had from the Silver Age on...but if they can't be like Captain America, I would like it if they were consistent at least.
@adamfrey492014 күн бұрын
The thing is, if Rich is stepping out, then one of Bleeding Cool's other writers needs to cover it. Bleeding Cool running too cover on Donny Cates (a former staffer of theirs) tells me all I need to know.
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
@@adamfrey4920 Interesting. It's been a long time since I read Bleeding Cool regularly, but it sounds like I haven't really missed much.
@Trustme7714 күн бұрын
@@adamfrey4920 Interesting. I guess I really haven't been missing out on much since I stopped regularly reading it.
@godstomper11 күн бұрын
I remember once in 1990 I met Grant Morrison and Dave Mckean when they did a signing for Arkham Asylum. Those guys including Neil and Alan are Rockstars of the comic industry. Alan seems to downplay his role thou
@CRUCIFi77714 күн бұрын
Our flesh remembers, it’s a biblical concept so I’ll spare you the details unless you’d like to know more; I’d love it if you did.
@TheSpecsShow14 күн бұрын
No thank you; the Bible is even more overrated than Gaiman
@jojomojofofo12 күн бұрын
What do u mean by this, as a fellow believer. Probably need a memory jog.
@patrickmoreau759214 күн бұрын
Good comments Perch Neil is a creep even if the lowest allegations are true. That being said, some of the accusations don’t add up. Stay tune I guess.
@1001johny14 күн бұрын
So my while my twitter feed has alot of postive and fun things on the timeline, im seeing things like this about Gaimen, and a few twitter folks trying to pin John Byrne as a Pedophile.
@Spitzkrieg12 күн бұрын
I'm a conservative, and I always knew most comics are leftist. Bloodhound is a comic that I really enjoyed even though it had messages that I didn't agree with. Good video sir
@TheAyeAye16 күн бұрын
There were a lot of red flags about his writing and personal life. He operated for so long because he had the "right" politics and made people money.
@lacolem114 күн бұрын
Bleeding Cool is still silent, as far as I see
@adamfrey492014 күн бұрын
They also haven't said anything about the British rape scandal. They weigh in on every American event but he's dead fucking silent on that one. As I understand it, Labour is heavily involved in the scandal and Rich votes that way.
@bryanrickard771214 күн бұрын
Man, I wasn’t expecting this video until mid June. Perch has really been on top of the news this week.
@commonsense519914 күн бұрын
2025 is not having a good start. It is not just comics. It is also novel and movies too. I have Neil Gaiman’s American Gods and Anasai Boys. Those books are critically acclaimed. American gods had a TV adaptation. The famous stop motion Coraline movie. It was based on Neil Gaiman’s book. Dark Horse making comic adaptation of his novels, including Norse Mythology. If Neil Gaiman is popular, people would be blinded of the weird stuff he say and or done because he is popular. And Popular people would be with side what majority audience’s view on social media thoughts as you talk about Liberals and left leaning just to keep their popularity and tries to hide in plan sight. You mentioned Hollywood as well. There people from who are just weird. I like Zachary Levi mostly he played Shazam. But I seen video where he becoming more and more odd, after Shazam 2 flopped. 5:20 is that equivalent to ghost writers?. 5:43 Nothing. Last time you talk about Maggs when she tried make Connor Kent trans. *Which is a terrible idea.* all that was in 2023. I remember Maggs wrote comics of Zack Snyder’s Rebel Moon. *That is not an achievement.* 17:32 / 18:47 I gave you a new email of a similar topic.
@jennysoapdish450212 күн бұрын
You say this guy was “odd” and “weird” and “red flags” what do you mean?
@BillLaBrie7 күн бұрын
Just because you notice it? Every field has its own bad actors What about politics? Say what you will, but Gaiman is an established author.
@ComicsPerch7 күн бұрын
Plenty of good and bad people are. Having the qualification of an author is independent from what you do in your personal life.
@xeroforhire13 күн бұрын
This last week has been absolute fire with Perch just telling it how it is. It leads me to believe that we are truly about to usher in a new era for comics 🎉
@shengcer14 күн бұрын
Guess dark age won’t happen after all… I know silver age did not sell well, but still you’d hope a name like Gaiman would guarantee the trilogy will be finished, well ain’t it the right timing?
@tonyfrickey90628 күн бұрын
I think fans were ready for silver age when marvel got the rights but they decided to reprint the original miracle man stories no one was interested in..then did reprints of moore's stuff then let gaiman and Buckingham drag their feet on silver age...now the interest is pretty much dead..
@joellim752114 күн бұрын
"you don't bite the hand that feeds you".. except if Gaiman asks you too.. given the context.. haha
@Tacom4ster14 күн бұрын
I blame late stage capitalism
@robertgerrity87812 күн бұрын
Why, you ask. Because people are people, especially men, women less so. Get used to it. You still read Oscar Wilde, correct? How about the Moroccan boys? That change your interest? Discussing NG and AP is necessary. Keep at it.
@shrikeofterven600611 күн бұрын
Another "why does this keep happening" answer is that most assaults of this type are done in private, there are no witnesses or cameras, so it is alleged victim said vs. alleged perpetrator said. Unless there are serious injuries, who is going to be believed is a coin toss in most cases.
@mrwho616312 күн бұрын
McFarlane is laughing at the bank 😂
@jdsantibanez10 күн бұрын
Has he been convicted?
@arturoluque926913 күн бұрын
What a way to re-discover your channel again, perch, but here we are. I was especting for you to go a little more in depth, tho, considering that you are a parent and the things that gaiman exposed his son...
@AL-ws5yi14 күн бұрын
I never liked Gaiman tbh.
@johnmurphy938513 күн бұрын
I read the first three or four issues of Sandman when it first came out and didn't see what the big deal was. Later, I read one of his novels, neither the title nor the plot of which can I remember now -- something about a magic portal on the London Underground or somesuch -- and again, I didn't see what the big deal was.
@reubennichols64414 күн бұрын
Oh - Boy // Oh - Boy . Neil Gaiman ? ? I Am Sooooo - Looking Forward To See - - ing What ' s Going On With Neil Gaiman In Real Time . Here - I - Go U
@coinopanimator14 күн бұрын
5:04 “Rage Grifters” like that.
@brandonjames67314 күн бұрын
Kneel Gaiman
@peterparker-q1q12 күн бұрын
to Diddy he goes
@chart645414 күн бұрын
Why is being friends with Tori Amos odd?
@ComicsPerch14 күн бұрын
It wasn’t the friendship, it was the way he discussed it, talked about how his wife should act more like her, etc
@bobbyologun151714 күн бұрын
14:29 big facts
@krishall208614 күн бұрын
Anything ever referred to as ‘the new rock and roll’ expects groupies to be part of the deal.
@peterdickinson459914 күн бұрын
Adding to the trial by media?
@jqapp14 күн бұрын
Are these Tory and Neal interviews still out there.
@SeanMurphy1090-d5u14 күн бұрын
#heforshe
@johnmurphy938513 күн бұрын
In this case, more like #sheforme
@genreartwithjb509511 күн бұрын
Comics is left leaning? Nah. Maybe on social issues but how many Socialists are in high positions at DC comics? How many Socialists sit on the board of Warner Discovery? How many out and proud Socialists are writing books at DC? Jim Lee certianly isnt a leftist hes a not even a Social Democrat on the economics. The American comics industry and America writ large isnt even as left as Europe, and Europe is very much a Capitalist continent with very Capitalist countries. Comics on labor practices, on actual meat and potato issues has always skewed massively to the right. Now if you are talking social issues then yeah. but then again I would say most people are fairly left on social issues at least in the West. Now if you are talking hollywood i think it is a bit more of a mixed bag with figures in SAG towing an economically progressive line like Adam Conover and Fran Drescher and Viggo Mortensen and others but even in Hollywood these studio heads are are billionaires who are massive Capitalists. When you are talking about Leftists really thats a term generally meaans Social Democratic or Socialist. America has very few European style social democrats in positions of power. Especially now we are seeing a lot of government positions being fillled by ultra extreme libertarian/curtis yarbin style tech bros.
@ComicsPerch11 күн бұрын
Left leaning = Socialist? 😳
@clonegeek331714 күн бұрын
If I recorded an elevator pitc for a comic and sent it to you on email could you give feedback via a video?
@andrewrowland608614 күн бұрын
I don't kink shame anyone. More people are freakier than they'd ever lead you to believe and will deny it if confronted. What gets me, is what always gets me and that's the issue of consent. Consent is an ongoing process, that's why people in "the lifestyle" have safewords and safe signals ( should a party be gagged). Some of the allegations against Gaiman sound a bit like buyer's remorse. Things weren't as fun as they thought or they became embarrassed when other people found out what they did. Other allegations are really disturbing, because they seem non-consensual and abusive from the jump. Plus, there's the issue of lying to his wife about being monogamous after she became pregnant. All this rhetoric about him being "creepy" is bull hockey though. Perch you're creepy a bunch ( what's with the Riley Reid fixation bud? She's retired) and it's probably nothing sinister. Factually though, it seems Neil may have some consent comprehension problems on par with the US president elect, which for most of us, would be considered criminal.
@ComicsPerch14 күн бұрын
The Riley bit is a bit, it’s literally the only name I can remember in that industry unless I go back to Jenna Jameson.