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Coming of Age in Belfast

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Ron Blau

Ron Blau

Күн бұрын

This is a rough transfer of a documentary I produced for WCVB-TV Boston in 1983. "Coming of Age in Belfast" focuses on young people in Ballymurphy, an area in Belfast, Northern Ireland, who have grown up during the Troubles. The reporter/co-writer is Mike Barnicle, editor Marcy Tankersley Scott, videographer John Grahame, sound recordist Jim Fripp, executive producer Charles Kravetz (full credits at end of video).

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@maga8307
@maga8307 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully after living through the troubles im happy there is peace. I remember as a 11yr old crawling under my bed and scresming for fear of getting shot. I first lived in new barnsley park where i was born. But we were put out. Then I lived off the shankill road during those dark of the 70s . Most children back then suffered just as the adults sufferered. Ive been diagnosed with PTSD as im sure most ppl have living through the troubles. Im just happy that there is a good future for our grandchildren as i would not wish this on them. But apart from the troubles its good to look back .
@samgraham1936
@samgraham1936 3 жыл бұрын
My family lived new Barnsley and we moved to the woodvale i dont remember any of it but my older family members talk about it sometimes about leaving in the early hours of the morning. Thank god for the peace were having now .Long may it last .god bless u mate
@truthseeker444
@truthseeker444 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I think this whole country has some level of PTSD, how could we not, what we lived with as our normal, was anything but. They say there was no winners, the winners were the people who survived it, and the losers were the people who did not.
@captainchaos3053
@captainchaos3053 11 ай бұрын
I've never heard such snivelling.
@samwallace7313
@samwallace7313 9 ай бұрын
​@@captainchaos3053where did you live.
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 9 ай бұрын
​@@samwallace7313he's a dickhead in an ivory tower with no frame of reference
@marymo75
@marymo75 7 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Springhill Avenue, it's like gold dust finding videos of the old place lol Thanks for sharing.
@SoEightiesItHurts
@SoEightiesItHurts 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Springhill Avenue, I'm a postman and I delivered the mail there for a while back in '87. My main memory of that street is that there was this guy living there who was a massive Neil Diamond fan and was always playing his records loud when I passed by every day.
@jasonsabourin9547
@jasonsabourin9547 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoEightiesItHurts Wow, and nobody shot him?
@darthscouser5255
@darthscouser5255 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonsabourin9547 - haha.... certainly would have been justified..... i think both sides would have shot him and bombed his record collection
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 4 жыл бұрын
SoEightiesItHurts The Neil Diamond fan was Joe Campbell, he was married to wee Jean Campbell. Joe is probably blasting Neil Diamond to this day, as far as I know he’s still alive and well.
@fishface20077002
@fishface20077002 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonsabourin9547 Only when he started playing Sweet Caroline.
@ciarancahill2979
@ciarancahill2979 7 жыл бұрын
Ron thanks for sharing, its amazing to look back on what is was like living here in 1983, even caught a glimpse of myself and sadly some who are no longer with us, but many happy memories and familiar faces too.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ciaran -- It's great to hear from you! In a notebook from 1983 I see the names Frank and Tess Cahill, who lived on Ballymurphy Drive. Are you related to them? I have very fond memories of the weeks I spent in Belfast, especially the warmth and hospitality of people in Ballymurphy. I hope others who were in the film get to see it, too. Also, people who live there now, to catch a glimpse of what life was like almost 35 years ago.
@ciarancahill2979
@ciarancahill2979 7 жыл бұрын
Yes they are my parents, sadly no longer with us. I shared a link to the film on my facebook page so other can see it are you on FB?.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am on Facebook: facebook.com/ronblau
@lastpostbugler
@lastpostbugler 7 жыл бұрын
You did a great job there mate in that you were totally unbiased & Gave a fair representation of all the communities. As some one with experience of this part of our planet. It was refreshing to get a different slant on things. & some one without a POLITICAL agenda to achieve...good on you.Ron Blau.
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
@12345grov You can still be murdered walking down the road but it's not as common.
@greyline1012
@greyline1012 7 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Ballymurphy during the troubles. I think drugs maybe our new troubles now. Anyway a fantastic piece of work. Thanks a million for sharing this. Brilliant!
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for being so positive about the documentary. The people of Belfast, especially Ballymurphy, were terrifically welcoming for our crew.
@scottscott232
@scottscott232 3 жыл бұрын
How things have changed. I was in Belfast as a Black Brit in 2016. A really chilled place. Some people might stare but I never experienced any animosity anywhere. I went bowling, cinema, swimming, and had a great time.
@itzskizzyk5472
@itzskizzyk5472 3 жыл бұрын
when you say brit do you mean soldier? dressed in your gear etc
@scottscott232
@scottscott232 3 жыл бұрын
@@itzskizzyk5472 No. I'm just a regular black guy that happens to be British. I was never part of any of the armed services.
@afroliciouspresents3603
@afroliciouspresents3603 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottscott232 Sorry to pop your balloon, but many, many black soldiers have served in Northern Ireland, since 1969, so the locals are used to black people. There was even a black IRA man.
@deanodog3667
@deanodog3667 2 жыл бұрын
@@afroliciouspresents3603 darkie Hughes wasn't black ffs !
@afroliciouspresents3603
@afroliciouspresents3603 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanodog3667 But Leroy O'Toole was!
@johnnymac8680
@johnnymac8680 6 жыл бұрын
My late mum is queueing up at the post office just after the 40th minute.
@brendanwalker4696
@brendanwalker4696 5 жыл бұрын
God bless!
@darrenlowe3445
@darrenlowe3445 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Mac May your mother Rest In Peace
@FoxtronX
@FoxtronX 4 жыл бұрын
may her soul rest in peace.
@scotty20040
@scotty20040 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny Mac ❤️❤️🤱🏼
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@heathermarsh3425
@heathermarsh3425 3 жыл бұрын
I was 8 when my daddy came in to say to my mum its started & in my little child like mind thought the end of the world was happening, i was very frightened & anxieties have stayed with me ever since!
@TheHairyHound
@TheHairyHound 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ron Blau for such a great piece of work. I grew up in Ballymurphy and went to school with Paul 'Pele' Millan. Listening to him speak in this documentary highlights for me just how far ahead he was/is than most at the time. Seen many other familiar faces too though sadly many have since passed away.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
Do you know what became of Paul? What's he doing now?
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 6 жыл бұрын
I remember that it was very moving to meet Paul and hear his story.
@muskrat477
@muskrat477 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best documentaries I've watched about the troubles,Peter Taylor the BBC journalist made some very good ones too,he's been reporting on the troubles from the start.he recently went back and caught up with a lot of the players in that time period,amazingly a lot of their attitudes have changed
@RonBlau
@RonBlau Жыл бұрын
If you’re in USA, where can you see Peter Taylor’s recent work?
@FRM101
@FRM101 Жыл бұрын
@@RonBlauOn KZbin, a channel named 'A Troubled Land', creator based out of Belfast.
@ezekielamaterasu3462
@ezekielamaterasu3462 6 жыл бұрын
My Grandmother moved from Belfast out to Perth Western Australia in 68, she knew trouble was coming. My Great-Grandmother and uncle and aunts a few years later...
@aviationiceman9549
@aviationiceman9549 4 жыл бұрын
Ezekiel Amaterasu are you still in Perth?
@carolhamilton2512
@carolhamilton2512 3 жыл бұрын
So did my aunt when she was 18 other aunt to England
@YouTubeSupportTeams
@YouTubeSupportTeams 3 жыл бұрын
smartest decision she ever made
@willfoster2635
@willfoster2635 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, 1983. I remember it well. The nightclubs, like the King Arthur and the Abercorn. Music and the talent was great.
@moiraray1
@moiraray1 2 жыл бұрын
I was also 6 in 1969 , we left Belfast for Australia, thank god , saying that there is peace now and I’ve lived on the Antrim coast the last eight years , it’s beautiful
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this a long time ago, it's great to see it again. Thanks for posting.
@jdgrahame
@jdgrahame 7 жыл бұрын
Looks great, Ron. Wonderful to see it again.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you saw it! I'm going to let other people who were involved in "Belfast" know it's now up on KZbin.
@tomkerrigan3020
@tomkerrigan3020 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very moving. I wish differences could be worked out because there is a great potential for the Irish people regardless of religious and political background. Thanks Ron for your work in making this film
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
@A ZOrange Order is triumplist and sectarian
@machrijam
@machrijam 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary! A real eye opener. I’ve just finished a novel set in 1979 Belfast. It was great to see that same era shining new here.
@BrandonHilikus
@BrandonHilikus 2 жыл бұрын
Name!
@johnnymac8680
@johnnymac8680 2 жыл бұрын
I gave an interview to Channel 5 News in Boston back in the summer of 1981 when I was based in Hyannis, Cape Cod. Watching the interview on tv they showed images of the streets of Belfast. I was astonished to see my next door neighbour being searched by Brits outside the Falls Library.
@mariansaldo1
@mariansaldo1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary. Sad to see a country ripped apart internally. Also sad we are so ignorant of what happens in the rest of the world here in the US. Knowledge of foreign affairs is the exception here not the norm. God bless Ireland.
@lamouchedelamurph1314
@lamouchedelamurph1314 6 жыл бұрын
Grew up in the "Murph", great, and sad, to see so many old familiar faces. Absolutely horrible place. What a tragedy
@galshaine2018
@galshaine2018 4 жыл бұрын
And in 2020... Belfast is quiet. America burning.
@niamhmcgovern3293
@niamhmcgovern3293 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t make this about America
@Alyssa-kc7vi
@Alyssa-kc7vi 3 жыл бұрын
@@niamhmcgovern3293 the commentator is american and keeps referring to america and how it is there compared to belfast back then lol.
@stndmnky8556
@stndmnky8556 3 жыл бұрын
@Travers no one is with these lockdowns
@jenniferfarrelly5797
@jenniferfarrelly5797 3 жыл бұрын
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@violetanndoherty6872
@violetanndoherty6872 2 ай бұрын
My mother grew up in murph . Left. When she met my Scots family it btraks my heart what the Brits done to a proud country 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪
@papadoc711
@papadoc711 7 жыл бұрын
I would adore to see a documentary revisit the same people now. I can vaguely remember the security checkpoint at city hall, how times have changed, Belfast now look like any other European city.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
We made the documentary in 1983, and I wanted to go back 25 years later to see what had happened to all the young people. But (as is too common in TV) it didn't work out. If someone in Belfast could produce a follow-up documentary, I think that would be great!
@jimdalton2142
@jimdalton2142 7 жыл бұрын
Dumb ass
@papadoc711
@papadoc711 7 жыл бұрын
Jim Dalton ?
@maninthewilderness5795
@maninthewilderness5795 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy micks......
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Robinson That is indeed a Red hand of Ulster, it is the official flag of the province of Ulster. The red hand is associated now days with Northern Ireland and Loyalism but in actual fact it is an Irish flag. The Northern Ireland flag was based (copied) on the Ulster flag.. Ulster is a province of Ireland not a Unionist country. All four provinces in Ireland have their own flag.. The yellow Ulster flag is a lot older than Northern Ireland itself.. The Unionists did not invent the Red hand, they just use it in their flag but its Irish.
@chrisjezovnik3308
@chrisjezovnik3308 2 жыл бұрын
I'm preparing to go on trip to Belfast next month. This was a great retrospective documentary. Thanks.
@colleenmccracken828
@colleenmccracken828 4 жыл бұрын
I love Belfast, haven't been there since 1988
@aviationiceman9549
@aviationiceman9549 4 жыл бұрын
Colleen McCracken lucky you !!!!
@colleenmccracken828
@colleenmccracken828 4 жыл бұрын
@@aviationiceman9549 lol 👍
@aviationiceman9549
@aviationiceman9549 4 жыл бұрын
Colleen McCracken hi ! Are you a native of Belfast ?
@colleenmccracken828
@colleenmccracken828 4 жыл бұрын
@@aviationiceman9549 No, I've just been there on vacation, my family is originally from there what about you?
@aviationiceman9549
@aviationiceman9549 4 жыл бұрын
Colleen McCracken yes , but emigrated to Australia 20 years ago, couldn’t wait to get out of the place, it’s stuck in a time war! May I ask were you live ?
@leeann4900
@leeann4900 6 жыл бұрын
Just completed my maternal dna. I’m full of Ulster Scots, never knew we were, especially Ulster. Thank you, so very much, for your unbiased explanation. I completely see both sides, blessings to those whom’ve been lost ~ on both sides. I truly feel the passion, and ancestry of both! May our Lord, bless and keep them all, in the palm of His hands.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
Irish Americans/Scots Irish Americans are key peace process in Northern Ireland.
@johnvega5836
@johnvega5836 7 жыл бұрын
Wow such a document!
@carsieplg
@carsieplg 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Sherlock ended up teacher and is now a school headmaster last seen him about 2 years ago
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 6 жыл бұрын
Though I spent only a short time with Martin when we were filming, and that was back in 1983, he gave the impression that he would do something with his life. Even as a teenager he was very focused and positive.
@carsieplg
@carsieplg 6 жыл бұрын
Ron Blau He tried to pass the positives onto us didn't work on me but he went onto teach Rory McIlroy look how he turned out
@YouTubeSupportTeams
@YouTubeSupportTeams 3 жыл бұрын
@@carsieplg with maths and computer science he wasted it on teaching. he could easily have been a millionaire today.
@carsieplg
@carsieplg 3 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinSupportTeams At the time it was a job he could stay close to home my brother had to go abroad in the 2000s to get work best thing he ever done
@markdowney969
@markdowney969 7 жыл бұрын
mate we had a copy of this sent over from America years ago but it was on vhs lol and we lost it I've been trying to get a copy of it for years but could find it any where is there a place were I can get a full copy I live near the top off the whiterock road west belfast,, I most say to you it's one of the best documentary,s I've ever seen about the troubles in Ireland
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you can see the documentary again, Mark. Working on this film, and spending five weeks with the people of Belfast (especially Ballymurphy) was one of the best projects I ever worked on.
@morgancarser4924
@morgancarser4924 6 жыл бұрын
This is great 👍🏻
@johngardiner1630
@johngardiner1630 Жыл бұрын
Left Belfast in 1968 to live on a S Pacific island some of whose inhabitants were ex cannibals...it was a refreshing change.
@davideldred.campingwilder6481
@davideldred.campingwilder6481 Жыл бұрын
That's the funniest thing!
@belfastsoul8863
@belfastsoul8863 7 жыл бұрын
40.16 some of the Halien mods sitting around the old fountain in the city centre,marty,Robert,Domenic and Joe , they were the days lol
@Page-Hendryx
@Page-Hendryx 3 жыл бұрын
LOL I saw that. Also in the beginning of the clip there was the guy in the white jeans, desert boots and coat / tie?
@belfastsoul8863
@belfastsoul8863 3 жыл бұрын
@@Page-Hendryx Had a look there don't recognise the face!!
@dr.doppeldecker3832
@dr.doppeldecker3832 3 жыл бұрын
The harsher the environment, the sweeter the love.
@TrixieBoo
@TrixieBoo 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up on the Shankill Road until I was 29. Got myself and education and left. The mindset of people hasn't changed.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 3 жыл бұрын
The Roman Catholic Church is the root of all evil.
@fyivid
@fyivid 2 жыл бұрын
​@@saxglend9439 Shankill is protestant, numbnuts.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 2 жыл бұрын
@@fyivid Catholics worship Saturn.
@mannygenetics374
@mannygenetics374 2 жыл бұрын
@@saxglend9439 Saturn as in the planet??
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 2 жыл бұрын
@@mannygenetics374 Saturn's rings are part of the broadcasting system of the Matrix.
@lastpostbugler
@lastpostbugler 7 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to watch a documentary that was arguably accurate in its narrative to all sides of the Northern Irish divide. I must agree with the poster who stated that the " Idiot' shouting his mouth off at approx 27 mins in to the footage. would be better off just keeping hid mouth shut. Would be interested in knowing if any follow up was made . As, no doubt, things will have hopefully moved on since this documentary was made back in 1983
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, there was no follow up. I wanted to return to Belfast in 2008 to see how things had changed, or not changed, 25 years after the original filming. But, for a number of reasons, it didn't work out.
@sfitzsimons980
@sfitzsimons980 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck up😂😂😂
@DMWBN3
@DMWBN3 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the news when I was growing up was always full of scenes from the troubles. I live in Brighton and heard the bomb go off at the grand hotel.
@gerthie
@gerthie 4 жыл бұрын
Was up in Belfast this summer is was beautiful city and buzzing
@gerthie
@gerthie 2 жыл бұрын
@A Z central
@piousapostle6629
@piousapostle6629 7 жыл бұрын
23:42,I didn't know Jeremy Clarkson was a republican sympathizer and enjoyed a wee swal in the Sloans :)
@belfastsoul8863
@belfastsoul8863 6 жыл бұрын
Pious Apostle lol brillant, well spotted
@charliepollock1207
@charliepollock1207 4 жыл бұрын
I often wonder how.we all came through these Troubles suppose because we are all strong People.and beleived in Prayer.as we did when our Families went out to work or every day Shopping we did not know.if they were coming back to you again A Ballymurphy Mother Kate.
@aviationiceman9549
@aviationiceman9549 4 жыл бұрын
The man @27:00 is one sick individual !
@1916jamesconnolly
@1916jamesconnolly 4 жыл бұрын
Classic example of a psychopath. The Police had them, the Brits had them, the Loyalists had psychopaths like Michael Stone and Lenny Murphy and the IRA had them.
@maisieclarkeclarke1751
@maisieclarkeclarke1751 6 жыл бұрын
Omg at 6:31 the one who threw the rock at the soldier was my FRICKEN dad 😂😂😂 Lak wtffffff
@thepenetrator2006
@thepenetrator2006 5 жыл бұрын
I know your daddy
@darrenlowe3445
@darrenlowe3445 4 жыл бұрын
Maisie Clarke Tell your dad thanks 😁
@Angie_bae
@Angie_bae 4 жыл бұрын
🤣😂💀
@paulnelson6277
@paulnelson6277 4 жыл бұрын
He's lucky he wasn't shot. Obviously not the brains of the family.
@maitredusoleilquatorze2726
@maitredusoleilquatorze2726 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulnelson6277 Come out ye black and tans Come out and fight me like a man Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders Tell her how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killishandra
@Dannydantimpat
@Dannydantimpat 4 жыл бұрын
He said “ the rest of Great Britain “ Great Britain = Scotland , Wales , England . North of /Northern Ireland isn’t included . When North of / Northern Ireland is included , it’s known as the UK .
@antonclark3420
@antonclark3420 4 жыл бұрын
Not very United though :)
@itzskizzyk5472
@itzskizzyk5472 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonclark3420 wasn't united to begin with anyway, it is english politicians with english laws tearing down neighbouring countries
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 3 жыл бұрын
@@itzskizzyk5472 Lervish
@gerardmccavana4905
@gerardmccavana4905 2 ай бұрын
I taught in Vere Foster PS in Moyard in the early 2000's....interesting to see footage of the area.
@kevinlynch9438
@kevinlynch9438 4 жыл бұрын
"Do you know what ambition means?" Cheeky bastard ............ 😳
@CONN-1888
@CONN-1888 3 жыл бұрын
AHH.The Murph, my old neck of the woods. Mad place to grow up.
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 4 жыл бұрын
11:27, it looks like that wee girl is running into the house because the Brit is aiming his rifle in her direction but she’s not. I think she’s more shocked to see the camera pointing at her than a British Rifle.. That’s the truth.
@EuropeanMedia
@EuropeanMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary
@mikki3562
@mikki3562 4 жыл бұрын
This is a wrong narrative, it follows the usual false British narrative. The conflict was between the British and their proxy, unionist paramilitary death-squads and a section of the Irish nation trapped under British rule in a part of Ireland. Unionism is maintained by British political and economic power. It is a legacy of British colonialism, people who are descendants of British settlers and who never wished to assimilate into the rest of Ireland are not sovereign, and the only rights they should have are: the right to be equal citizens in an Irish Republic. This video suggests the conflict was between catholics and protestants, it wasn't. The conflict was a result of British army invasions of nationalist areas, thereby starting a military conflict, the continuing struggle against British rule in Ireland.
@paulduffy4585
@paulduffy4585 4 жыл бұрын
When a narrative is being repeated, day in, and day out, for 50 years, it takes a while to shake it off. The truth is also a particularly ugly one. And keep in mind that people are still trying to live under the same state, a state that relentlessly terrorized them for 30 odd years.
@karensheep7141
@karensheep7141 3 жыл бұрын
5:24 Good that even though they are fighting street battles they still remember to wear covid masks. Bless you boys.
@Del-Canada
@Del-Canada 4 жыл бұрын
I remember all of this. I was constantly glued to the television or the radio keeping up on the latest. I wasn't anywhere near it tho.
@staycool8516
@staycool8516 5 жыл бұрын
Fathere Wilson God bless you. You stood with ur people
@rubydawn1
@rubydawn1 7 жыл бұрын
Love this documentary and it is so interesting to see comments from people that where there at this time.The Irish Catholic where forced into poverty by Injustice.Thinking for those who stayed they have survived so much.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 3 жыл бұрын
The Roman Catholic Church is the most evil organisation that has ever existed. It is a genocide cult.
@samwallace7313
@samwallace7313 9 ай бұрын
Rubydawn the Protestant working class lived in the same shit housing and poverty as the Catholics that's what people need to understand.
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 7 жыл бұрын
@19:18 he was shot in the head just off the Shankill road about 3-4 years after this was filmed..
@1916jamesconnolly
@1916jamesconnolly 7 жыл бұрын
He sealed his fate when he went into Andytown leisure centre with a handgun to take the tricolour down. Wanted all Catholics incinerated. Which is probably what's happening to him in hell at the moment.
@1916jamesconnolly
@1916jamesconnolly 7 жыл бұрын
Well said John. I'm originally from St James just down from the Whiterock road so I'm thick as fuck not getting the Leisure centre right! Hope Seawright is burning in hell with Thatcher. Slainte.
@brendanwalker4696
@brendanwalker4696 5 жыл бұрын
According to the International commission the Provo army council are running Stormont. What's Seawright running? Good riddance to the sectarian bastard, he came, he spouted, he got a hole in the head.
@murphm3144
@murphm3144 2 жыл бұрын
Born and Bred in Ballymurphy..I still live in it with my on family.. Caught a glimpse of myself at the beginning of the video and aswell later on at the top of Divismore Crescent where I grew up
@joshclarke2800
@joshclarke2800 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf my dads in this
@patcoyne8036
@patcoyne8036 Жыл бұрын
very very good doc
@freddietommie1904
@freddietommie1904 6 жыл бұрын
thank u
@greyline1012
@greyline1012 7 жыл бұрын
They built so many leisure centres in close proximity in catholic areas only during the troubles in the hope it would keep the kids off the streets. It never worked!
@GallowglassBLADE
@GallowglassBLADE 4 жыл бұрын
Took over by the local hoods 😂
@TheMetalMachineMusic
@TheMetalMachineMusic 4 жыл бұрын
"DO YOU KNOW WHAT AMBITION MEANNNS?" Firm 9/10 on the Patronising scale.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you meannns by your comment. Who is patronizing and to whom? The filmmakers or someone in the film?
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 4 жыл бұрын
@Lexine Bate Yeah, I can't argue with that.
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not patronising at all, it’s a simple inquisitive question.
@david-stewart
@david-stewart 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was a bit patronising
@FRM101
@FRM101 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Blau, As other commentors have noted, Gerry Adams appears on screen (merely walking past) @ 2:58. Given Mike's narration landed solidly on the word 'Ballymurphy' just as Adams appeared, and given Adams' known personal connection to Ballymurphy (and his senior role within the wider Republican movement), I assumed an Adams interview segment was forthcoming However, as you already know, no such segment appears in the piece. In light of this, if you'll indulge me, I have a few brief questions: (1) Did the appearance of Adams occur by chance? Meaning were your cameramen in the proccess of capturing b-roll footage, and Adams happened to stroll by? And if so, at what point, if any, did the production team realize who they'd coincidentally captured (on film)? (2) Coincidental appearance or no, did you, Mike, or any of the team seek and/or conduct any on-screen interviews with Mr. Adams? (3) If yes, do you currently have access to the recording(s), and was the decision not to air it (assuming any such recordings exist) an artistic one given this piece's focus was the impact of conflict on unaffiliated young people; or was it the result of pressure (official or otherwise) brought to bear by authorities (on either side of the Atlantic), and/or your station management? *(as an aside, having watched Mike Barnicle during all those Hardball appearances, I summize that pressuring him to do something he did not want to do, would have had the opposite affect) (5) Were you, Mike, or any of the team advised by local contacts to seek Adams' approval for filming in an area in which he was more or less in command? If so, did you heed any such advice? And if so, was Adams' brief appearance, near the beginning, meant to communicate that approval to a specific, or general, audience? I thank you in advance for your time and answers, and of course for posting this piece.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau Жыл бұрын
Dear F. Ryan -- Thanks for your thoughtful questions. I'll do my best to answer them (40 years after filming the doc). 1+2) Total chance capturing the shot of Gerry Adams, at least on our part. Maybe he knew there would be a film crew in Ballymurphy, but we didn't know he'd be there. We certainly knew who he was but, if I remember right, he disappeared before we had a chance to talk with him him. In any case, we were attempting to do a portrait of what life was like for young people in Ballymurphy, not a political film, so we never tried to do a round of interviews with leaders on both sides of the conflict. 3) There was no decision not to air this documentary; it was broadcast in Boston on WCVB-TV. The original tapes and, worse, the master broadcast tape, were reused or destroyed long ago. It wasn't for any policy reason. Sadly, the TV station that sent us to Belfast never thought of this as footage that should be archived. 4) Yup, Mike is his own guy. 5) We were in touch with the authorities in Belfast to let them know we would be filming, but there was no interference with our work. For two or three weeks before the crew arrived, I simply walked the streets of Belfast and talked to people, looking for a story that would fit the title "Coming of Age in Belfast" (which I kinda stole from Margaret Mead). There was no communication with Gerry Adams. I hope these notes answer your questions.
@FRM101
@FRM101 11 ай бұрын
@@RonBlau I wasn't quite sure a response would be forthcoming given the upload is dated to six years ago, so I sincerely thank you for answering my questions, and so thoroughly at that. I found the footage fascinating, and worthy of preservation, thank you for posting it to the wider world.
@problemchild4571
@problemchild4571 3 жыл бұрын
1973 @ 6 years of age I was a rock throwing S. O. B.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 3 жыл бұрын
Were you one of the kids throwing rocks at the armored vehicle about 1 minute into the film? This was filmed June of 1983.
@problemchild4571
@problemchild4571 3 жыл бұрын
@@RonBlau no I wasn't
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 3 жыл бұрын
@@problemchild4571 I'm wondering whatever became of the lads who were throwing those rocks. It happened the first day of our film shoot.
@problemchild4571
@problemchild4571 3 жыл бұрын
@@RonBlau yer parents had a lot to do with how your life turned out. My family worked as did most of my mates parents. Those with parents on the dole, well they were always going to be on it. The film was fair in its portrayal of the kids. Some good some not so good.
@tm5267
@tm5267 4 жыл бұрын
2:58 that Gerry Adams there?! Just curious for meself. Not expectin any of ye to tout
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Gerry Adams as he looked in 1983
@daic7274
@daic7274 3 жыл бұрын
Good spotting
@Annie-jm1ox
@Annie-jm1ox 4 жыл бұрын
September 2020. I live in Northern Ireland and its the best place to live.
@speakertreatz
@speakertreatz 4 жыл бұрын
Great documentary Ron
@deanodog3667
@deanodog3667 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy times , grew up in NLR , didnt know any better lol !
@kevinmccarthy4794
@kevinmccarthy4794 3 жыл бұрын
He mentions at the end that hope lies in the myth of the cycle of violence. Which is untrue. There is always a reason for violence as we all know today.
@shamrock4500
@shamrock4500 3 жыл бұрын
I spent a week there last summer, yes you can still feel the tension.
@Atheists-are-Animals
@Atheists-are-Animals 7 жыл бұрын
LMFBO @ the glue sniffers up at the castle near the end Thomas (TA) Murphy--Paul (Mildu,R.I.P) McCann and Dee Walsh...Y.M.T to the end lol
@amandamurphy7955
@amandamurphy7955 7 жыл бұрын
My wee daddy was paul mccann ♥️
@jasonsabourin9547
@jasonsabourin9547 4 жыл бұрын
Where were you that day? You missed your chance to be A star in Southie, and Dorchester.
@YouTubeSupportTeams
@YouTubeSupportTeams 3 жыл бұрын
y.m.t ??
@YouTubeSupportTeams
@YouTubeSupportTeams 3 жыл бұрын
@@Atheists-are-Animals whats y/m/t stand for though good sir?
@mud-chan5485
@mud-chan5485 3 жыл бұрын
May I know what song were played at the end? It's really beautiful. Greetings from Sarawak, Borneo.
@pat4961
@pat4961 3 жыл бұрын
Song is called, Our lads in Crumlin Jail
@mud-chan5485
@mud-chan5485 3 жыл бұрын
@@pat4961 thanks for the info 🙂
@ScottAvellino1
@ScottAvellino1 3 жыл бұрын
The opening song is wild mountain thyme correct?
@thunder_heads
@thunder_heads 4 жыл бұрын
My dad grew up on the falls road
@desmondhull5778
@desmondhull5778 3 ай бұрын
Hard to believe that the British army in 1969 were welcomed onto the Falls Road by the women handing out cups of tea to them.
@TheMisterMonkeyman
@TheMisterMonkeyman 5 жыл бұрын
2:58 That sure looks like Gerry Adams to me. I know he's from Belfast, and I think he was from Ballymurphy as well. Nice Doc, interesting angle on the situation. Thanks for posting. Peace.
@strictlycasual765
@strictlycasual765 5 жыл бұрын
TheMisterMonkeyman it is Gerry Adams, that’s probably why it looks like him
@denniscole173
@denniscole173 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a Catholic living on the shankill married to my grandmother. He was originally from Donegal and his sister's I think ended up living on the falls road. Sad that sectarianism on both sides split families.
@Eochaidh32
@Eochaidh32 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ!! First words from Barnicle were the bullshit of Catholic/Protestant/British Peacekeeping. I am an American whose father and three grandparents were from North Belfast (New Lodge/Dock Ward). I have spent a lot of time in Belfast, including staying in Ballymurphy and the Falls. How a correspondent could spend one day in Belfast and not fucking notice the anti-Irish intent of the British Army and the Loyalists in unison is beyond me. Belfast is a British Occupied area and the Army was there to protect its land and its Loyalist citizens. "Ireland unfree shall never be at peace", (Padraig Pearse). My God the ignorance of some people.
@samwallace7313
@samwallace7313 9 ай бұрын
You havnt a fucking clue.
@rmc1044
@rmc1044 5 жыл бұрын
Por favor si alguien fuera tan amable de escribir un resumen del vídeo en español les agradecería enormemente . Puedo entender algunas palabras y deducir .muchas gracias
@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268
@makegeorgeorwellfictionaga9268 4 жыл бұрын
Right " peace keeping " that is the excuse the English use to occupy Ireland. At the same time if the Irish did not fight each other they could unite and keep out the English, that has been the Irish people 's fault since the beginning of the IRA and killed their ownMichael Collins the best Irish man to ever live.
@milkymoo8252
@milkymoo8252 4 жыл бұрын
Here here, I was born and bred in the west of Belfast. Plus the troubles did not start in 1969 it started 800 years ago. African American people have suffered an awful history but everyone just conveniently forgets what the Irish people (protestants and Catholics conbined) have endured. We were the first slaves pulled from our homes and sold to work foreign lands away from our families. In America they had in every shop, bar, cafe they had signs hanging in the windows that said:- - NO BLACKS - NO DOGS - NO IRISH So what I'm saying is being Irish is not a right but a blessing as we have overcome everything in our paths and now all or most Americans want or claim to be Irish.
@jaymcaaa
@jaymcaaa 3 жыл бұрын
@@milkymoo8252 Americans say lord balfours israel comes first
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 3 жыл бұрын
@@milkymoo8252 Lervish
@milkymoo8252
@milkymoo8252 3 жыл бұрын
@@saxglend9439 do u think I don't know what your talking about. I'm a mick from Belfast. Raised with politics.
@milkymoo8252
@milkymoo8252 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaymcaaa that was 1917.
@randalpmcmurphy1340
@randalpmcmurphy1340 5 жыл бұрын
Young lad in a tonic suit at 6.15 :D
@nobsnormaldude445
@nobsnormaldude445 2 жыл бұрын
Gerry Adams @ 2:58
@Jammy66
@Jammy66 2 жыл бұрын
The squaddies had a tough time, mostly just young lads who weren't expecting the abuse and hatred from 'normal' people. The kids had fun lobbing stones and abuse at them. It was all just daily life for them.
@TheNinyo77
@TheNinyo77 2 жыл бұрын
Jammy66, then they shouldn't have came here, they came to US not tye other way round.
@adamgardiner5869
@adamgardiner5869 4 жыл бұрын
The cigar chomping American presenter was cool. Great doco.
@darthscouser5255
@darthscouser5255 4 жыл бұрын
22.25........"how did you lose your tooth" "Fighting" "how many of them were there" "About 20" Wait....i mean 25, or was it 30?
@pauldunneska
@pauldunneska 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting documentary of Belfast in 1983,full of Skinheads the working class fashion of the time.
@laurallama73
@laurallama73 Жыл бұрын
2022 Where are they now, I wonder.
@RonBlau
@RonBlau Жыл бұрын
I haven't kept track much since 1983, and the young people who were 20 then would be almost 60 now.
@binflynn1
@binflynn1 Жыл бұрын
I love the way American journalists haven’t got a clue about Belfast
@christinedowie2859
@christinedowie2859 12 күн бұрын
You can take the girl out of Belfast but never Belfast out of the girl.
@dccoulthard
@dccoulthard 7 жыл бұрын
Is that Mike Barnicle?
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is.
@lesliestobbart1386
@lesliestobbart1386 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the music being. Played at the start of the coming of age video pls
@RonBlau
@RonBlau 4 жыл бұрын
"Limerick's Lamentation" by The Chieftans
@Pershing12
@Pershing12 Жыл бұрын
My granny is in this
@humann5682
@humann5682 3 жыл бұрын
This is so random but the thumbnail the ginger lass looks like Molly C Quinn ("Alexis") from Castle!
@caleb4790
@caleb4790 4 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland is under English rule? Never was it’s part of the UK by democracy
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb Emerson So if a United Ireland is decided upon through democratic means, would you accept that without question?
@robertmac62
@robertmac62 4 жыл бұрын
didnt the parents keep a check on their kids. they would if they were killed
@JohnMcMahon.
@JohnMcMahon. 4 жыл бұрын
30:48, shotgun on the end of that robot, controlled by remote control.
@stephenm8898
@stephenm8898 4 жыл бұрын
5.50 all dressed up and no place to go
@buskingkarma2503
@buskingkarma2503 Жыл бұрын
31:15 👀 it's Sid Vicious!
@Angie_bae
@Angie_bae 4 жыл бұрын
29:00 - 32:00 WALL-E sighting
@mcnoface8000
@mcnoface8000 3 жыл бұрын
3.55 that’s the most oriental “Chinese “ looking white let alone Irish man I have ever seen.
@jbmc8769
@jbmc8769 4 жыл бұрын
some dirt in that
@gailday7636
@gailday7636 4 ай бұрын
❤😂❤
@DavideM1996
@DavideM1996 3 жыл бұрын
11:27 nice my dude lol
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 3 жыл бұрын
Not a bad documentary however he said London when he should have said Westminster and he said England when he should have said the UK.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 2 жыл бұрын
Westminster in London's England rules Ireland UK is just make Northern Irish Unionists Scottish Unionists and Welsh Unionists happy.
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