Deep in History - The Aftermath of the English Reformation - Joanna Bogle

What happened in England after Henry VIII declared himself to be the head of the Church there, declaring a schism with Rome? What effect did that have on Catholics loyal to the Papacy still living in England? What happened to priests, monks, and nuns, whose way of life became instantly illegal? What would this new Church of England look like? The always delightful Joanna Bogle of EWTN looks at one of the most chaotic periods of English history, and the role religion played in it.

[@dianesicgala4310]

Am very proud to be Catholic. Love the beauty and history of the Catholic Church.

[@dianescigala2584]

God bless you Joanne. I am British. Grew up in Norfolk and Suffolk. Married a young American in 1969. Brought up in the Church of England. My husband's family were strict Methodist. I lived with them while my husband served in Vietnam. Worst year of my life. They were anti catholic and were very unkind. I should have gone home to England. I found the Catholic Americans so much kinder. I converted to the Catholic Faith. In 1978. My husband and I divorced after about 17yrs. It so funny my in laws reminded me of the Puritanes. Unfortunately I did fall away from the Catholic Church for many years after my second divorce. Started to watch E.W.T.N. about 4 yrs ago. Started to watch the Journey Home. Sent away for a book on the Early Church Fathers. Last step going to my youngest Goddaughters wedding the day after Our Lady Assumption Aug 2014. I believes a small miracle happened to me in that beautiful Catholic Church. So blessed to be back in the Church. I was home for Christmas. My dear sister and husband took me to the Catholic Church. Also took me back to Our Lady of Walsingham Shrine. Enjoyed it so much. I miss England so much.

[@ericsonblah]

Diane Scigala Welcome back home.

[@dianesicgala4310]

Diane Scigala Thank you Ericsson.

[@dianesicgala4310]

Sorry Ericson about the wrong spelling of your name.

[@dianescigala2584]

Proud to be back in the Church. God bless this beautiful lady.

[@akionataito5458]

WOW! What a great speaker. Awesome presentation of historical facts of prosecution of the church in England Had learned some of it at school but definitely you told the real history.As you said in God^d time yes God in Your time.Thank you God bless

[@mikeDeSales943]

Outstanding speaker, what a delight she is.

[@dianesicgala4310]

After 19yrs so blessed to be back in the Catholic Church. After watching E.W.T.N. The Journey Home. Doing research on the Early Church.

[@SuperIliad]

A wonderful abridged history of a subject I always have wanted to get around to. I do recall reading in G.K. Chesterton that Protestantism began to unravel very soon after its birth.

[@user-lv4wu6bf5n]

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[@johnking5174]

@@user-lv4wu6bf5n I am proud to be an Anglican, and it is very easy for Roman Catholics to dismiss the Anglican church, indeed even protestants call us "Catholic Lite" which is very insulting to us.

[@Adam-ue2ig]

Such an unraveling that in total more non Catholic Christians now exist than Roman Catholics.

[@SuperIliad]

@@Adam-ue2ig Unwittingly, you made my point.

[@dianesicgala4310]

Love you dear lady. I am English but for the last 47 yrs in the States. Miss England. So much. But really did not come across anti Catholism until I came to America.

[@robertlehnert4148]

"The Catholic Church is only for saints and sinners. For "respectable people", the Anglican Church will [have to] do"--Oscar Wilde, eventually, on his death bed, Catholic convert.

[@TheMahayanist]

Nobody is perfect.

[@carynschmidt5061]

Thank you Joanna. Always a pleasure to hear you speak. My husband and I have been to Great Britain on several occasions (heard daily Mass at St. Etheldreda's, what an experience! and spoke to the pastor there, as well as a lovely and very knowledgeable elderly parishioner, afterwards). We visited almost every church we came across and at one point stepped into a High Anglican church; we had to keep checking the sign outside, so close were the similarities to a Catholic church! So I was fascinated to hear the part of your talk when these were mentioned as rather recent innovations in the Anglican church. I had always assumed the similarities to have been remnants which were preserved by Henry VIII, who was actually very Catholic in his practice of the faith.

[@catherinebcasa5827]

Wonderful talk! Thank you. Full of so many interesting bits of information that I have delighted in investigating further. Really gets to the nub of things Catholic in England. Wish I had had you as a Church history teacher! Eagerly awaiting delivery of your book - Newman's London: A pilgrim handbook. Keep up the good work and jolly well done!

[@cynthiax56]

WOW !!! Did NOT know that about the jack in the box and "hocus pocus" though !!!. I'll come back and watch the rest of this later...(running to tell my friend this information).....

[@tbhamdg]

Thank you, Joanna! Wonderful talk!

[@dianescigala2584]

Thanks you. Blessed to be back. Joanna is amazing.

[@sibergirl]

This was fascinating. Joanna is great fun to listen to. Thank you.

[@cynthiax56]

FANTASTIC !!! I'm impressed !! Thanks for this video :D

[@margaretmurti6845]

Cynthia X

[@amberbranks4209]

21:34 AMEN! Bless you for saying it. Cromwell the Butcher. Cromwell the Muderer. Cromwell who dared to think God is anything like him. We are like God in small ways. But God has none of the Evil Tyrant in him! GOD IS LOVE!!! Hurrah! Hurrah! I love the truth!

[@johnking5174]

What about evil popes, do any of them have God in them?

[@dwightschrute900]

Yep Cromwell was evil

[@rexrocks4337]

Time to sue the British crown for confiscation of catholic property

[@dwightschrute900]

I agree

[@barbhorses]

Loved that talk!

[@adamhovey407]

If someone wants to slap me, go ahead. Here's a joke. Why Can't Anglicans play chess? Because they can't tell a bishop from a queen.

[@TheModernHermeticist]

LOOOL

[@benita8768]

😄

[@michelleriley4267]

Very much enjoyed that. So proud to be catholic!

[@johnking5174]

In the same way we Anglicans are proud to be catholic, just not roman catholic.

[@FigaroHey]

Actually... since 'Catholic' means 'universal,' and 'Anglican' means 'restricted to England,' 'Anglican Catholic' makes no sense. And the title 'Roman Catholic' was invented by Anglicans to suggest that the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church was 'merely Roman' and 'foreign' and not one, holy, UNIVERSAL and apostolic. Anglicans trace their origins to the lusty loins of Henry VIII, not to the Apostles. Anglicanism is definitely not 'one,' though it is singular, and thus not by any definition 'catholic.' Anglicanism is one of those branches that has been cut off from the vine, and is thus withering and dying, while the Barque of Peter sails on.

[@johnking5174]

I am Church of England and proud of it. Episcopalian is another word for Anglican too. Let me give you some facts about your church. The Roman Catholic church in Ireland at least is dead. I will give you an example from Diocese of Derry where some of my family come from. It is a diocese with 51 parishes. In 1992 there were 140 full time priests serving it. In 2002 there were 105 full time priests serving it. Now in 2017 only 75 full time priests serve it. Hardly flourishing. Attendance at masses on a weekly basis has plummeted to 25%. This is just one diocese. Ireland as a whole has a priest problem in your church. Yes, we have ours too. So please get off the high horse, have some humility as Jesus Christ expressed on Holy Thursday when he washed the feet of the disciples, and acknowledge that your church has severe problems, not only the child rape and molestation, but so much more problems, as well all do. "one true church" is nonsense.

[@johnking5174]

I am not going to waste my time in trying to apply logic and reason to you after this excellent rant you have wrote. You must be proud. So Mr/Mrs Inferno (great name) I will leave you to your nonsense. There comes a point, when someone does not use paragraphs in comments that it is fruitless to continue. So, bye bye nut case, bye bye.

[@giovanniserafino1731]

John King: I could never understand the claim that some Anglicans make that they are Catholic. They separated from the Catholic Church, rejected the authority of the Holy See, rejected the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, got rid of 5 of the 7 sacraments, substituted the Protestant and heretical Edwardian Ordinal for the Roman Pontifical, imprisoned, punished, and put to death countless Catholics for maintaining the "Old Religion" and you anglicans claim to be Catholic? Absolutely bonkers !

[@tigerboy1966]

Please note, St John Southworth was from Lancashire, not London. He's one of our lads, and you can't have him!

[@dianescigala2584]

Love your video's. God bless you.

[@rexrocks4337]

Fascinating insights thx

[@amberbranks4209]

Thanks be unto God almighty that I may embrace a more joyful, a jollier Christianity! As it is written: *the joy of the LORD is my strength!* How Beautiful the feet of them that preach the _GOSPEL of PEACE_

[@johnjon1823]

Good.

[@barrymcgrath4303]

The speaker keeps using the word Britain that didn't exist until 1707 102 years after The gunpowder plot.

[@AmericanBerean]

But the island was known as Britannia in Roman times. I think?

[@FigaroHey]

Yes, AmericanBerean, you're correct.

[@kernowalbion4142]

John Southworth could not have administered to the sick during the great plague in 1665. He was executed at Tyburn during the interregnum 1654. it was earlier than restoration that he worked with the sick.

[@FigaroHey]

I'm grateful and humbled to be Catholic - not 'proud.' My Catholicism was received, as we all receive faith, through my parents and other witnesses, other relationships, and by the grace of God. There's nothing to be proud of, since it's not my accomplishment. It is my responsibility to live up to it, but not my achievement to boast of. Don't like it when people say they are 'proud' to be Catholic. The Church is the Body of Christ into which we are - all undeserving - incorporated. And that 'proud to be' stuff is exclusionary (I'm so proud of something I have no responsility for' implies, 'And you poor slob have nothing to be proud of .') There's nothing truly 'catholic' about being exclusionary (us - the proud ones, versus them, the benighted outsiders). And while we're all busy being proud, we're failing in the call to go out into the whole world and proclaim the good news. We should not be 'proud' to be Catholic; we should be ashamed that we have been poor witnesses and so many people remain outside the fullness of truth.

[@jonathanhagerman1465]

Amen.

[@starbuono3333]

What is a Tea hut ? is that what she calls it ?

[@johnking5174]

A tea hut is a place where you could buy a cup of tea and snacks. You ever see a coffee hut, where on street corners you can buy a cup of coffee and a bagel? Well this is the English version. Hope this helps?

[@starbuono3333]

thank you :) !

[@beautifulspirit7420]

Often placed next to a cricket ground or football ground for people to buy their tea, sandwiches and biscuits (English for cookies).

[@davidevans3227]

central heating is awful

[@krPeter2010]

but the engish version of Mass STILL does not exist.

[@johnking5174]

48:30 - Well John Paul II did say that Charles and Camilla would only marry over his dead body, and it happened. Now, why I wrote this, was due to Joanna's insult that wasn't it great the Prince of Wales had to postpone his marriage blessing because the pope died. No, it was out of pure courtesy and respect from one state to another. She made it out to be divine. Sorry Joanna, I thought you had more respect than that.

[@PInk77W1]

Why would JP2 care about a Protestant like Charles ?

[@johnking5174]

@@PInk77W1 Do you know how insulting and arrogant that comment is?

[@PInk77W1]

@@johnking5174 do u know how insulting the English monarchy is ?

[@johnking5174]

@@PInk77W1 I am a member of the Church of England and I detest papists who always think the Anglican church was created just because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce. Reform and change was stirring in England in the 1520s, and it just happened at the same time as King Henry wanting a divorce. Also, do some research and you will see it was the Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Cramner who actually formed the rules, doctrine and worship of the Church of England, not the King. The Church of England blends a mixture of reform and Catholic tradition into one. Ensuring we never lose the beauty of our ancient faith, but keep our protestant ideas too. I understand certain papists like you will never accept our faith, and that is fine. But please, do not insult me before researching our faith first.

[@gregoriotauro4469]

Then you may also stop using the term "papist", a historically pejorative term and refer to Catholics as Catholics. That reformation was "brewing" in England is a poor excuse for what happened. There's a reason as to why Anglicans are referred to as "Catholic lite". The entire affair was so political and devoid of any sincere reform that for such a time Anglicans retained a lot of catholic practices that the Reformation immediately dealt with. I hate when heretics, sorry Anglicans, keep reading their propaganda and truly believe what they speak.

[@johnking5174]

14:30 - No Joanna, "Touch Wood" is not Catholic, it is actually pagan - where you would touch a piece of wood to get rid of excess energy in your body. Also pagan belief was that spirits inhibited wood, and so touching the wood brought good luck from the spirits - nothing to do with Catholicism. She decided not to mention this of course.

[@rexrocks4337]

John King cross is wood and used by catholics Pagan ceremonies are irrelevant

[@johnking5174]

Sir Thomas More was the man who ordered the burning people at the stake for having the Holy Bible in English. Let us not close our eyes to this, he was not a saint. Joanna seemed to gloss over this fact.

[@mikazofstrum3268]

Don’t forget that even a lifetime of sin can be forgiven. Jesus, Himself, canonized the thief crucified next to Him just for recognizing Truth.

[@ericsonblah]

Constance St Michael Vatican II was truly the work of the holy spirit because out of it ecuminism it has now brought great defenders of the faith back home to where they belong especially in ardius times like ours where information flows like hot lava. They have helped make many a cradle catholics wake up to reality of the faith. This shows that Jesus will never forsake his church unless one follows your heresy of denying the church founded by Christ on Peter. So being truly founded by Christ he will never forsake his church. As has been shown by the early church fathers during the trying times of Arius, have faith on the chair of Peter.

[@PInk77W1]

St. Thomas More acted in his official capacity

[@CatholicEvangelist]

Very interesting. This is obviously an old video because “we have a wonderful pope” is not true for sure. He’s the worst pope for a long long time.

[@FigaroHey]

This woman's frantic, scatter-brained way of talking is so English, and so - sorry - annoying. Rattling on so fast and trying to make jokes just feels like she's wasting time, when she could slow down, be easier to follow, if she just dropped trying to be funny and got on with the information. But so, so English - their way of being funny with all these asides that are off-topic and much more funny to the speaker than to any listener. Had lots of that at university there and always wanted to do a Joe Friday and say, 'Just stick to the facts, ma'am. Stand-up comedy is not your strength and not what we're here for.' I find her hard to focus on. I'd rather just read the information. Too bad. It's my period of study - English Renaissance and Reformation - so I am interested in anything about it. Maybe I'll try some of the other speakers.

[@brianpe6704]

She assumes, that you know your basic history, and , she's very British ,so very dry and her asides are very insightful. but again you must know your cultural and factual history

[@johnking5174]

49:00 - And many millions of men and women who were sexually abused by catholic priests watched too, as John Paul II did nothing to protect them during his reign as roman pontiff from a vile paedophile priests across the glove. Between 1978 and 2005, thousands of boys and girls were subject to the most horrendous torture by these priests and nuns, and John Paul II did nothing. Turned a blind eye, and allowed his successor Benedict to write to bishops across the globe ordering them under pain of excommunication not to go to the police in regards to priest sex abuse cases, "perpetual silence" was the term he used. So Joanna, many were watching, and many were delighted he was dead, because he can now come face to face with his God, and understand the pain and hurt he allowed to continue because of his inaction as pope.

[@PInk77W1]

St. John Paul ll

[@johnking5174]

@@PInk77W1 He was no saint. Stop the arrogance. I have seen the Vatican files. He was no saint.