COMMA_CON 2023 | George Announces comma 3X Hardware | Three Stories - The Past, Future, and Present

New low price $1250 | buy a comma 3X: comma.ai/shop/comma-3x
openpilot can drive for hours without driver action and works on 250+ cars like Hyundai & Toyota. See if your car is compatible at comma.ai/vehicles
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- discord.comma.ai
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- api.comma.ai
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- github.com/commaai/research

[@kaykwanu]

The best Silicon Valley Series character.

[@primal_rationalist]

So, Eminem's into hardware now?

[@erichchan3]

I think he looks more like Justin Timberlake than Eminem

[@wowwhyisthistaken]

Eminem because he’s white?

[@primal_rationalist]

@@wowwhyisthistaken No, because he has 2 hands.

[@BigChilling.]

Racist

[@barneycarparts]

Gotta hand it to all the developers and users too. Driving chill is a lotta fun. Plus I have a wee bit of night blindess and the Comma 3 guides me through and doesnt care about the other car's high beams being on.

[@nivri1000]

I would like to see COMMA address the aggressive move of the OEM's towards encrypted communications between the IPMA and PSCM on most new models of vehicles past 2024 and some, like Ford on the 2024 models. The EU seems to be driving this for security reasons and it will kill any COMM installation because of the requirements for secure keys before any presence on a TRON supervised bus is allowed which is what the vehicle bus will be going forward.

[@Ruffi0]

looks like im sticking with my 23' ford than

[@KayvonJavid]

Love my comma 3

[@iKingRPG]

Good watch, cant wait to get one eventually

[@lizmusan7300]

Your presentation skills are so much better man!

I love my C3 even more

[@Top12Boardsport]

Great product, great development.

[@tarmon768]

Gotta be the coolest tech

[@klauszinser]

I like this approach.

[@TurboEncabulat0r]

George "Based" Hotz

[@erniea5843]

Gotta respect his pragmatic approach. Cut to the chase, no BS.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

May get this for our 18 Pacifica hybrid. Very nice.

[@queenbreezy7297]

I think people are not really seeing how this can be beneficial for people with permanent physical damage, and me myself who developed nervouse system damage from Covid and developed a fear of driving...definitely going to invest in the software and regain my life back...Also I think me being a nurse allows me too see a broader perspective of how beneficial this software could be for responsible drivers who may have had some life altering incident that affected their lives in the area of driving..

[@rapamune]

Good point

[@monono954]

Truly unfortunate that they removed the NVME port. I don't want to store it on the cloud, and i don't want to get to a point where OS updates take up the entire storage. I presume I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[@SiroccoSeven]

Can we still buy the older comma 3? Not a big fan of the non removable storage. Plus LTE data charges around my country is heck expensive even if I decide to use cloud storage. What’s the current tbw on the memory chips?

[@Yayayoyoyo]

3x I loven it❤

[@BrunoMorch]

Just waiting to work on my 2021 toyota venza to buy 😁

[@brandonbott5360]

This is incredible, totally about to buy one. Would the 3X work with White Panda to steer down to 0 mph?

[@shawnlee2018]

solve the toyota key. ill buy two

[@isaackvasager9957]

Did this get solved? On their compatibility list it appears to include newer Toyotas.

[@Aaron_b_c]

Love the c3x. Dude is a genius

[@TicTacTechYT]

So smart

[@Jimmy-Legs]

Can someone explain what the CAN-FD support is about.

[@britannio]

How does one discover companies with a similarly favourable revenue vs money raised ratio?

[@jeanmarcrum1347]

I would like to have a comma unit for my 2020 Chevrolet Equinox LT with convenience package II, is it in the future?

[@JB-lu1hp]

I'm not convinced by soldering the sensors directly to the PCB, seems like a potential point of failure with vibrations etc. Looks really smart though.

[@sheabrown]

Those were some pretty big pads.. you'd have to be talking about some car accident level of vibrations

[@nexttravel7828]

If you are confident with your product , try a 2 year warranty. Put the money where your mouth is.

[@mcbrite]

But my Audi A6 G4 still isn't supported by Comma, so I can't get Comma, even though I'd love to!

[@faeinthebay]

Isn't that flexray? Gotta donate money or dev time to that goal!

[@rapamune]

Issue is, very few people actually drive Audi's in the grand scheme of things ..

[@johnkerry239]

I have a Ford Edge 2020 it has adaptive to cruise control lane Center I just want to know if open pilot can support it this vehicle Ford Edge 2020

[@yudax7564]

goo make driving chill!

[@kwozaantaam6270]

when audi a7 2012 be supported?

[@ianik777]

Please solve TSK.

[@johnkerry239]

Does comma 3x hardware can support 2019 ford edge sel

[@josephyang3260]

Check the website compatibility list

[@lilacfunish]

People don’t buy products because they are cheap, that is scarcity mindset. MSRP $2999 is enough margin for lots distributors to sell it with 20% discount, for limited time, all the time. With free installation.

[@jurgispaulauskas4530]

GG

[@SiddharthKulkarniN]

He sure hates Helion energy

[@TicTacTechYT]

I wonder if comma is gonna obsolete in 5-10 years if manufacturers start transitioning to encrypted data from their ports

[@marek419]

perhaps they will all be shipping cars with some self driving ability anyways

[@Ruffi0]

@@marek419 they will. Look up cavnue

[@Smashachu]

Alright, so I took a look at the presentation. It's pretty genuine, which I appreciate. But I think the marketing could be a bit smoother. Sales are key, right? But it seems like it's mostly the same people buying the new stuff. Maybe we could've added a standout feature? Now, speaking of standout features, we've got LLM's. This isn't just some minor tech upgrade; it's one of the biggest technological innovations that's transforming industries overnight. It's a game-changer, and it feels like we just kind of brushed it aside. Why not use it in a cool way? Like, think about driving. It's kinda mindless, like showering. I get some of my best ideas driving, but can't act on them. What if we made chat gpt like Siri or Alexa, but better? Like, "Find a good Chinese place?" and it asks, "Hibachi or sit-down? Any favorite dishes?" It could even check reviews. Just a thought.

[@semtex6412]

great insight. but again, they're focused on making the BEST ADAS out there -- and saying NO to a lot of stuff, great and awesome stuff even, is a proven narrative at making things better.

[@Smashachu]

I realize self driving is the end goal, That doesn't mean that you can't add quality of life features that would broaden the market. If all the iphone did was make calls really well we would have never bought it. @@semtex6412

[@khoavo5758]

50:00 I'M NOT COVERING SHIT!!!

[@erichchan3]

The dude that asked the liability question is just idiotic. I have no idea what that dude was trying to get at. Nothing drives me more crazy when people ask just dumb questions that make no sense.

[@pabloescobar9337]

30 minutes in for the intro

[@Jimmy-Legs]

Unfortunately, I think they are going down a dead end now that car manufacturers are encrypting their data.

[@themodfather9382]

It's funny because even at only 555/week they would be a multi-billion dollar company

[@ErichMoraga]

FWIW - "555" (George's C3x sales bet) is pronounced (and used the same way) as "hahaha" in Thai😉

[@MannyMac]

Hey I don't know who I need to talk to you but I want to talk to someone so they can help me get one of these on to my car

[@allanmorgan4976]

i just wish you integrate a better way of dealing with the customers that had problems with a setup procedures that went wrong, for an older bloke the process in place is pretty overwhelming, so what do i do, reach out and no one reaches back. Great tech but crapp after sales…..disappointed.

[@muratahmetgenc6942]

do you think you are gonna start working on a humanoid in near future?

[@murc111]

lol, Comma is WAY to small to start making humanoids.

[@muratahmetgenc6942]

@@murc111 you are right, but if they can find new investors, I think it would be just a matter of time.

[@trungkiennguyen7655]

They want to make "Cars" a reality, cars mechanic, handsom race cars, and cars kissing and making small baby cars.

[@thekingofallblondes47]

I live tesla too but this makes elon musk look like a joke 😳 and I own a tesla before some charging station work some doesn't it's a nightmare I was on 1 percent and I heard people having range anxiety and can't make it to a charging station I believe it was cold and they dont do good in the cold I sold my tesla and got a toyota that open pilot works for this is exciting open pilot doesn't nag you like a tesla and the new tesla software I totally wasn't feeling that one like come on you you make one mistake you got to drive with hands throughout your destination I'm starting to believe tesla are over rated I glad there something to work for most cars brands and it's better the only thing I don't like is the camera monitoring my head to make sure I'm playing attention but it's most totally hands free then tesla

[@mc333777]

Lots of NEWER Toyotas are NOT SUPPORTED by Comma. Very disappointing. Been waiting for so long so I can get my Comma. Example, 2021-2023 Siennas, Venzas, & etc. It will be 2024 soon, and they are still not supported.

[@gwinbeer]

I can't blame Comma for not able to crack the encryption, but I'll also blame Comma for not placing a priority on it without having us doing donations.

[@josephyang3260]

Also depends on how popular the car model is. Venzas and Siennas are not as popular as say the Highlander. In 2022 33,683 venzas were sold and 20,061 Siennas were sold in the US. Whereas the Toyota Highlander sold 222,805 vehicles. Even with Venza and Siennas combined sales the Highlander sold over 4 times as many vehicles as both those cars combined in terms of total sales. The cars that are more popular have a higher priority because it reaches a greater market size. They will eventually have to break the Toyota safety sense system for the newer models eventually if they want to stay relevant, but for now my recommendation is just to buy a car that you know is supported rather than buying a car and hoping that someone will do the fingerprinting process for you

[@joaquinbarlow]

@@josephyang3260the rav4 is more popular than the highland but hasn’t been supported since 2022

[@patrickjdarrow]

Poor George, half the jokes going over the audience’s heads

[@megatrolltrollington]

When yall gonna support tlx?

[@etbadaboum]

Can't deliver FSD cars so now promise autonomous robots

[@ncironhorse8367]

Hotz needs to remove that ball cap. Makes him look like he is hiding something

[@terrysullivan1992]

May be brilliant, but one of the worse presenters ever.

[@kaykwanu]

Your grammar is not correct.

[@elephantmoney]

Please hire a professional presenter. No offence George.

[@monstertruck7933]

I don't agree. I find it more genuine that George is doing it all himself. I think he did perfectly fine regardless.

[@faeinthebay]

A lot of companies have awkward presenters. Zuck, Musk, Jensen, etc.

[@mrpogi23]

Elon Musk is a horrible person and terrible presenter, but he does it himself and people eat anything he says to buy his crap Teslas.

[@ccibinel]

Honesty and presentation style is refreshing. We dont want generic presenters; a leader that understands things and is real is far better. Some of the presentation structure around future predictions (comma 7) was a bit off but that wasnt a presentation problem just bad planning.

[@PAS2010D]

​@@mrpogi23🙄 tell me more about Elon being a horrible person

[@denischikita]

George, it's sad to say, of course you told a lot of right things, but man you didn't convince me with your vision. Corporations are not bad, it's just a point of view and it's naive.

[@Ruffi0]

Not all corporations are bad. But at the end of the day, the don't care about you. They care about their investors. Period.