Command Edition 9th Ed Warhammer 40K Starter with Terrain!

Naomi unboxes and reviews the biggest of the three new starter sets, the Command Edition starter box for 9th Edition Warhammer 40,000.
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[@cordial001]

The minis are great, the terrain is great and the little rulebook and the Command Manual are great. I'll never be a fan of the cardboard battle mat things, but it's better than the paper mats in the other boxes and for a starter set it's fine, I guess. I am glad I bought it.

[@justink9962]

I see the old Chainsword to the desktop trick worked. Excellent 😁

[@rcgunner7086]

Thanks for posting these reviews, Naomi. I really appreciate you giving the $$ analysis too. That was really helpful!

[@moviemaniac1838]

Love these videos for the new boxes! I'm a new player and these (plus the new tutorial game videos for them) are really helping me decide which one to get more than anything else I've seen online =)

[@cyclone8974]

neat

[@destron7374]

I'm beginner in table-top games, collecting and painting, I basically have never done it before, but I know more than the basics about the lore of 40k so I picked this set with recruit edition and paints, I hope I won't have troubles with assembling and painting the miniatures. Thanks for this video. :)

[@Winterydee]

Thank you very much for this video! It was able to finally answer my question of if the game map which came with it was the nice cardboard foldout version or the cheap an crappy paper foldout which comes in the Recruit & Elite boxes. Now I know, hands down if I'm going to pick up one of these three starting boxes it's going to be the Commander Box. Yeah, the cardboard backed foldout map, terrain, full rule book w/fluff & Mini sized only rules book seems to be worth the extra $66.00 here in the States. Thank you again Miss Naomi! Stay safe!

[@alricdark]

I'm a sucker for great terrain in starter sets versus a few more minis just because for me it hugely enhances the actual gaming experience. This does look to be the best of the starter sets, especially with the full rule book in mini format. Excellent video review as always.

[@lumomagus]

That softcover mini rulebook is so good!!

[@CallofOdin580]

My box arrived today , been a 40k fan for a very long time... 25 years lol. Picked it up as was a great way to introduce my 8 year old lad to the games. He’s grabbed the necrons and the marines are joining my wolves..

[@MustContainMinis]

Thanks for the videos. I went out and bought myself a recruit edition at a FLGS after watching your videos.

[@PinkiePie2]

Holy crap, only 1 dislike? Man you make such amazing content that no one dares to dislike your videos!

[@MagiciansApprentice1]

thanks for these videos they really show what we're getting .. I''ll be interested to see how the built terrain adds to LoS blocking

[@OverboardDM]

Very useful Naomi. Thanks 👍

[@JewelKnightJess]

Definitely want to get hold of the little rulebook - the Indomitus one is lovely but way too bulky and heavy to carry around to games!

[@Sgt-Wolf]

Yeah that's a problem with a lot of rule books they are way to big for there own good. I guess its because they want to put in some lore but we can look that stuff up online.

[@Harko-]

Although this starter set is a bit more expensive, it does feel to me like a better purchase, if you have the money to spend. With the rule book and the terrain pieces, I think it brings a more complete total experience. Thanks for the review Naomi!

[@noprobllama9747]

Thank you for the review. Much clearer that the commend edition is the way to go. Particularly with independant discount.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Lady Naomi .

[@TheBluesundance]

Games workshop is rolling this version out to be accessible yet still friendly to hobbyists. I love the inclusivity that these sets, from the push fit models making building less frightening to the command manual which guides you through playing as you build and you learn the basics of the rules as you go. Thanks for showing off this set. Can’t wait to get my Indomitus box set!

[@wilsondy4888]

Very nice details, thank you, learned a lot from your videos...

[@Pembroke.]

You know you would think the rule book for Warhammer would be 4 feet by 2 feet bound in rich leather with a huge chain and lock, maybe next time 🙄

[@pookie9121]

I was wondering if you were going to do this unboxing. Yay. Cheers

[@assembly_language3948]

thanks for the review! I am sad they went back to the white dice. The clear ones that came with Dark Imperium and Soul Wars were so much better. The older white dice were not made well as a lot of the time the plastic wasn't melted all the way through (if you broke one open that is). This lead to dice that wouldnt be completely random as the unmelted plastic messed up the balance. Clear dice, you can clearly see they are melted lol.

[@dennfett]

Reckon I'm going to get this one, looks good. Great videos.

[@darthbretticus9951]

As someone with no 40K terrain yet this is the set for me👍 And she looks adorable in that color lol

[@cartouchator]

Be prepared that the board included is only good for killteam or 500 point games. Any more than that will require you to buy more or to purchase a gamemat. The terrain is brilliant though

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

Not a fan that the cardboard mat ahs the objectives printed on one side, although I guess you could hide them under terrain pieces or scatter.

[@rcgunner7086]

They are objectives. They are deployment points for the training scenarios. They did the same thing with the 8th Edition starter sets too. The scenario tells you what models to put with the letter/number and off you go. You can get rid of that in the game by plopping scatter terrain on it.

[@JohnnyLeyenda]

@@rcgunner7086 Yeah, whatever they are, my point was that the mat that comes in the terrain set doesn't have it, which I think is weird, to print two sets of cardboard mats

[@bangablesnowbeast]

Might get this for the terrain, mat, and the space marines I didn't turn into White Scars.

[@Barry-Sweaty]

Gosh darn it. I want that box for everything but the necrons. I am debating whether or not to buy it rn. Part of me wants to hold out for 10th edition. I’ve been playing a ton of kill team and haven’t played 40k in a long long time.

[@joshseachrist9853]

hey i got a question dose the mini rulebook have the crusade rules too or just the standaerd rules im just wondering

[@johncurry7246]

I think the terrain and board would push me towards this set.

[@rcgunner7086]

It did with me. I looked at all three and figured the best route would be to get this one and the recruit version. This way you get all of the minis and terrain.

[@WebweaverFiller]

Yeah I’m really loving the Terrain in this set, but the “push fit” stuff is a nightmare to set together! Once you snap them into place, it looks nice but actually getting them together is fairly annoying.

[@MrNoobxs]

Buying Indomitus was a great deal, but the rule book in that box could kill a man. I really don't want to have to buy a whole new set to get the pocket version.............probably will though

[@U2QuoZepplin]

The thing I’m curious about is whether this is a good substitute for the Indomitus set or whether I should go in for the “We’ll Make you one,” thing?

[@swordnsteele712]

The Indomitus set has many more miniatures in it and cost per mini the Indomitus wins... but this one is ideal for teaching a new player how to play. And has nice terrain.. If you can afford it, get both XD Or get the Recruit Edition now while you wait for your Indomitus :) Hope that helps, good luck!

[@jamesvalentine2845]

The two most important things here are the rulebook so you can chuck your 1.6kg rulebook from Indomitus in the trash. And the terrain plus boards.

[@Vokdor1]

Great review! Ty

[@Turai12]

Which of these 3 versions do people recommend for someone completely new to the game and 99% new to miniature gaming as a whole (only played a tiny bit of blood bowl)?

[@jennyalfonsi1048]

I am discovering 40k through her vids, I think I'll pick up with the commander (if I had the money)

[@inzulmadaco561]

I really hope they come out with just the terrain (without the table card) because I already have quite a few game mats Id just like to buy the terrain. If Sword and Steele has extra just terrain from any starter set or expansion sets they want to offload let me know!

[@joncarroll2040]

So there really is no reason to buy both the elite and command edition...just the one or the other depending on whether you want to save money or get the terrain and the book?

[@charles_wipman]

I think i would preffer the smaller versions, even the recruit edition; i see it better for beginners and that'll stimulate 'em to create their own things, terrain tides, scenary pieces.

[@jacobb.9181]

I just wish there were more models. I like the inclusion of terrain, but compared to Dark Imperium, there are not that many models

[@Xenomrph]

Did you buy one of each starter box?

[@cyclone8974]

I really don't like the letters on the board, it doesn't show them on the website. I guess it doesn't matter anyway since you need 2, 4, or 6 to play the game.

[@BB-pn2qv]

AGREED

[@theemperor-wh40k18]

I guess you can put the terrain over it?

[@TheGamesNexus]

@@theemperor-wh40k18 Sure, you can, but it's still misleading.

[@cyclone8974]

@@theemperor-wh40k18 That's a crappy solution. It means there always has to be something in those places making it less flexible.

[@jjsyrena706]

Paint it ;)

[@SiliconSicilian]

Anyone know how far off a “full” force you would have after a Command Edition and Indomitus? I like the small rule book in the Command Edition.

[@Fauxmadd]

For Marines, its 1330 ish, give or take 20pts for Plasma pistols options. But you have 4 HQ's and only 3 troops. So you will either be 1250pts as a battalion, or you take 2 detachments. If you play Open war it wont matter. You need about 700pts to make a 2k list. It would b good to get 800 so you have options other than 4 HQ's.

[@SiliconSicilian]

Josh Maddux Thank you. This sounds like a decent start to get back into 40K after a very long (3.5 ed) layoff. Anyone know about Necrons?

[@AdeptusRidiculous-2025]

Yur so sweet! I like this inviting event!!!

[@mac40k92]

The board is 22x30" which is half the size needed for a 500 pt game. That's my big problem with this as a starter, is that outside of the included tutorial missions, new players will need the $90 terrain box to have the right sized board even for the smallest of games, bringing the total starter cost to $255. At least the included board isn't just thin paper like the two lower cost starters. The big question on the mini rulebook is whether or not the text is readable by grognard eyes. Less weight, smaller size is of no use if I can't read it without a magnifying glass. The terrain is decent looking, but the majority of it is not LOS blocking and since you need two sets for the smallest of games, that's a lot of what is essentially barricades.

[@cartouchator]

Unless I am mistaken, but I am nearly certain the board included is the size recommended for 500 points games from the main rulebook. 2 of them would make for 1000 points and 4 for 2000 points. As for the text, it is readable, they removed some margins and pictures and the font itself isn't really that much smaller than on the full sized book. Also in 9th edition you can make any terrain line blocking, players choose terrain rules for each terrain piece before the game starts, just make the larger pieces obscuring :)

[@barrywonderdog]

@@cartouchator No, the rules require a 44"x30" minimum board for Combat Patrol/Incursion games (these approximate to 500 and 1000 points respectively), and the board size is 22"x30". Technically, you also need more terrain pieces for both kinds of game. This edition allows for an ad hoc 'kitchen table skirmish', and some scaling down of larger games to accommodate. The problem is terrain is so intrinsic to the new edition, simply knocking out a new Dark Imperium style box (more units and HQs, no mat or terrain) isn't enough. Making a Command edition that satisfies the troop demands and the terrain/mat demands to produce even a Combat Patrol game would require the equivalent of two Command boxes, and the cost would be prohibitive as an entry point. I guess GW could make a General's Edition which was basically Indomitus and a combination of the terrain from Command and the terrain from the Kill Team box plus some consistent playing mats. That would be an absolutely amazing Combat Patrol/Incursion package... for the exceptionally well-heeled.

[@mac40k92]

@@cartouchator I don't have my Indomitus box yet, but unless the full rulebook differs from the core rules GW released for free, the board size for Combat Patrol and Incursion is the same. BATTLE SIZE BATTLEFIELD SIZE (Minimum) Combat Patrol/Incursion 44" x 30"

[@segatasanshiro21]

Almost 40k subs 😁

[@giftsstoregalore]

How many points can the board hold?!? Asking for a freind

[@swordnsteele712]

Do you mean... what size game would you play on the single board? 500pts :)

[@davedogge2280]

It's a cracking set for people just getting into it but for veterans I'm not quite sure. Those cardboard tiles are better than a very thin vinyl sheet of fixed size but I prefer good old rubber / mouse mat style big battle mats. I wouldn't mind that mini version of the rules book, my poor arms with the Indomnitus set one.

[@rcgunner7086]

Yeah, the main rule book is a beast to really use. I think this little rule book will see more use at the actual gaming tables! As for the game board- it is a big boon for those of us who want to game at home and don't have an appropriate mat for 40K. This was one of the things that made me go with this version of the starters.

[@cartouchator]

@@rcgunner7086 sadly the board included is only good for kill team or 500 points games...

[@BB-pn2qv]

Here is the problem, the board has numbers marked on it! This should not be the case and causes some real issues I feel.

[@jjsyrena706]

Paint it ;)

[@sackofpeas2470]

I just don't really see the value in this box. Dark Imperium gave you two forces of around 800pts, as well as the hardback lore/rulebook, dice, and some rulers. While there wasn't any terrain, the value for each army was well over $200. This meant you didn't really need to expand the armies themselves right away and could focus on buying terrain/paint. Plus to hit 1000 for either side would only require 1 or 2 purchases depending on the unit. With this set, you basically get 350pts per side, so not even enough for a regular 500pt game. You also get 1/4 of a standard games mat and 1/4 of a standard games terrain. This means that at the very least someone would have to buy the terrain pack and the double board set, which means you need to spend another $140. This isn't even including paint, which if you buy the new starter paint set would run another $40, plus $15 - $20 for primer. You're looking at potentially $400 to get started within this ecosystem, plus another hundred or so if you buy the Elite set to expand your forces. The terrain is gorgeous, but there is tons of great terrain for far cheaper, not to mention it's not that hard to turn some cans and boxes into legitimate Warhammer terrain. Not for me, though I will be buying a couple boxes of the recruit edition to give as gifts to friends/family I know are interested in trying out the hobby.

[@cartouchator]

9th edition introduced easier ways to manage skirmish sized games by changing the battlefield size depending on the size of each army. The size of the board provided is their standard up to 500 points board size and also happens to be exactly the kill team battleboard size. This makes it very easy (much easier than dark imperium at the time) to buy one single box, and play the game without needing to buy anything else,and see if you like the game or not. You don't need to improvise or buy terrain and a game mat, you just buy a box and play with the contents inside. This therefore makes for a much more complete feeling starter set. Is it good value for money? Maybe not as much as dark imperium, but is it a better starter set? Yes, it is. I can see many people buying the terrain set separately to play kill team too, perfect size ! Such a shame that as a result, death guard players don't have an entry box to the army anymore, they really should release a death guard start collecting box !

[@sackofpeas2470]

@@cartouchator 30x22 is extremely small for units like Bikers. This also isn't a kill team starter, its a 40k starter. You'd have to buy the kill team book and tokens on top of this if that's what you're going for.

[@kosmosfantasias7545]

I'm so glad that I did not buy this. What a scam toward beginners. I thought they were already Combat Patrol size.

[@RPGImaginings]

Does GW continue its practice of not crediting any authors or artists?

[@PyromancerRift]

Your voice is killing the mic :D

[@georgetaylor5482]

Where's Melody

[@swordnsteele712]

Offline but doing okay :)

[@Sammo212]

everytime I see something with terrain I get a FOMO feeling...no idea why GW takes terrain out of retail so quickly.

[@TigraZ]

is not that big

[@CATAHA986]

Hey gorgeous, where is your cute blonde friend?