Command: Modern Operations - A First Look

In today's video we take a first look at the sequel to Command: Modern Air Naval Operations which was comes out today, Command: Modern Operations introduces Tacview & Quick Battle support as well as numerous other features.
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Command: Modern Operations
Command: Modern Operations is the next generation in cross-domain modern wargaming. It enables you to simulate every military engagement from post World War II to the present day and beyond. The scale is primarily tactical/operational, although strategic scale operations are also possible.

[@Duphe]

I bought the game. bought all the addons. all of them. And I dont even know how to give a fire command. :/

[@mattvandenschoor1630]

realy thats sad

[@Chinnnnuz]

@@JSRJS hey I've just come off that game to this.

[@manuelw.b.ingenito7249]

To answer your doubt about sam platforms and radars: The radar you are seeing separated from the sam itself are search radars Every sam battalion have its unique design, eg. an SA-5 has its own launchers, search radar and fcr With that said, if you destroy a search radar, yes, there may still be other means for the enemy to scan the area around them. Also, never forget about the good old Mk1 Eyeball

[@Doedel67]

ever heard about IADS?

[@manuelw.b.ingenito7249]

@@Doedel67 you spelled AIDS wrong

[@Solo6R]

I know this is an old comment, but I've had the same questions regarding radars as he did here. So how would you go about targeting the SAM's FCR specifically, rather than the SAM itself, if it's radar is tied to the same unit as the SAM? Or can you not target the FCR of a SAM site?

[@manuelw.b.ingenito7249]

@@Solo6R the case you are describing sounds like an SA8 or SA17, basically every vehicle is a self sufficient system able to scan, target and shoot. In that case you have to disable every single unit in order to eliminate the threat

[@smithnwesson990]

In today's Warfare, the ability to destroy SAM sites and more importantly their radars is maybe the most important aspect behind logistics. Using missiles like HARM or AARGM to take our search and targeting radars to open up paths for air assault us crucial.

[@Anderson21G]

I'm really hyped for this I enjoy Command Modern Air Naval operations and seeing how refined this one is 👍👍

[@JClark2600]

Man this is amazing! So glad you covered this on your channel.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TheSYPHERIA]

Is there a game like this for ground forces like setting up combat plans for divisionn?

[@garetjaxusmc]

The time compression buttons for a minute, 5 minutes, 15 minutes, that sort of thing, are so you can tell CMO to only fast forward time by those amounts. "I only want time to be accelerated for 15 minutes before it slows down again." This is so you dont forget to get out of fast forwarding and just start losing ships and planes because of the scenario blasting by in accelerated time.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

That makes a lot more sense, thanks!

[@Ferocious_Imbecile]

Excellent, well thought out review. Very enjoyable. Thanks for the info.

[@ryanpayne9119]

The AN/ALE-50 is a towed radar decoy. As for the F-16 being called the Viper, it was named, unofficially, by a test pilot who saw one flying low along the ground. He said it resembled a viper, hence the name.

[@AndrewCZ47]

The version I've heard is they got the nickname after the starfighters from Battlestar Galactica (the first one, which aired around the time the Falcons started entering service)... it was a pretty futuristic design compared to, say, a Phantom, after all

[@TheWizardGamez]

I thought the new block 50 gen 4.5 f-16s were nicknamed the viper to make distinction easier

[@guhjjify]

I hope you do more videos on this!

[@andrefreitas3907]

I am immensely interested in learning to play this game. But when I try to play the tutorials, I feel lost anyway :( And there are not many videos on youtube that teach how to play ... Could you make one or more videos with a walktrough of the tutorials included in the game? Please

[@liammarra4003]

They really polished this beauty up. Still could use some work, but nevertheless, real damn good. Price still sucks...but I had to have it.

[@Ferocious_Imbecile]

Could you combine Command Modern Operations, Tacview and DCS World all together? Or for that matter could you run CMO, Tacview and MSFlightSim with its global realism all at the same time?

[@ryanpayne9119]

You don't KNOW what you destroyed. A missile can't tell you its target is dead after it exploded. You need to get in there and actually do a battle damage assessment.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

I figured that might be the case because Radar or buildings targets disappear when you destroy them.

[@boingobadger9846]

Satellites can do that or drones.

[@ryanpayne9119]

@@boingobadger9846 If they're in the area. Satellites are not omnipresent and changing a satellite's orbit takes a massive amount of fuel- usually far more than they carry.

[@bkup1332]

This is actually a really interesting topic. Sometimes you can presume that a radar has been destroyed if its signal vanishes exactly when the missile impacts. You could be wrong if the missile missed but someone switched it off in time. Figuring out what to believe based upon imperfect information is a difficult and fascinating topic. Go go intel!

[@KjetilBalstad]

Is it possible to record in tac-view and rewatch the fight after you complete the scenario, to see what really happened and learn?

[@kinggooseman5373]

Absolutely

[@VirusVanquisher]

Thank you for this excellent video. Was curious about the tacview integration. Was about to pull trigger on either standard or advanced tacview and this CMO capability is very nice. Will I ever use CMO to justify cost with paired with Tacview advanced? Probably not, but it is cool AF and I want it :)

[@scottashby6745]

BLK refers to Block not Bulk. In Military acquisition, this is a common reference to the generation of the production run. The higher the BLK number the more modern or updated the aircraft.

[@BENKYism]

I'm having a glitch where convergence zones aren't showing up, is there any way to fix this?

[@tar5us452]

Missile Defense stats are likely the weapon systems that it has the ability to target and intercept. The S-200 can target and intercept certain ASM systems, though I don't think that it has ever been put onto a surface ship. It would likely be shot down by smaller and faster ship mounted missiles or CWIS as a last resort but being that the Harpoon allows for BVR attack the S-200 could be used if given enough notice to obtain firing solution. The newer S-300 is on the Kirov class and used for this role.

[@captainwolf5922]

Original Duplicate the missile defense stat is a very basic estimate of how many subsonic sea skimming missiles a target can probably shoot down. For example, an Arleigh Burke Destroyer has a missile defense value of 20. There are a lot of things that would affect the actual result

[@tar5us452]

@@captainwolf5922 Well atleast I was on the right track. I was guessing, hence the words "I THINK IT MIGHT BE"

[@dokken1212]

Many thanks - bought this because of your video - thank you. And I got my 50% off which was great :-).

[@ajaxaceofaces]

People complaining about the price, remember this program has a professional version used by several militaries for simulation purposes. This game is the most in-depth and realistic sim out there. So if that’s what you’re looking for, it’s worth the price because you won’t be getting that level depth in just about any game.

[@Ingulf_The_Mad]

It's like a new version of Total Air War, but 20 years after. I liked the old one so much, but I'll probably wait for a little price drop.

[@stardog7655]

If you own CMANO you get 50% off CMO :)

[@thehistoricalgamer]

And if you don't, they do a good job of running sales. I doubt you'll get one a month after release, but CMANO was pretty steeply discounted a few times per year once it had been out for a bit. Just throw it on your wish list and it will get slashed sooner or later.

[@acebars]

TAW was fantastic I used to play that a lot. Loved jumping into an F22 as well.

[@wolfhunter98]

18:15 That independence day reference there. Nice.

[@jackson4736]

anyone know if you buy the tacview bundle for this game does the tacview also work on DCS, or does it only work on this game

[@ashaffold]

Jackson it’ll work with DCS, BMS and any other game that supports it.

[@alexandertouma5588]

J-20 at the thumbnail, is it?

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

Got CMO and Tac View for a total of 82.00 on steam as a bundle

[@Rosspal14]

worth all the pennies!

[@williamlydon2554]

the First Contact scenario...isn't about Aliens is it?

[@for_the_lore5567]

Must definitely be a recreation of Independence Day.

[@elcaporal739]

What is a good beginner friendly game similar to this to start with?

[@Shaunus82]

It's just such a shame that Matrix have decided to release this at such an extravagant price. £66.99 is not a price I could ever afford for a game, nor would I ever want to pay that much for any game. So I just have to play the waiting game now and hope that this game is in the Christmas sales at a price that I can afford.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

If you own CMANO you can get CMO for 50% off. Given the complexity and detail of this game I personally think they could easily justify a $100+ price tag. Steel Beasts pro the most advanced tank simulator is $100+. This game is so fast and complex I think the price is justified, it's more of a simulation than it is a game in all reality. With that said I understand everyone has their own perception of value and budgets, the great thing is historically CMANO has been discounted pretty heavily at various times. It's probably asking a bit much to expect them to put it massively on sale less than a month after launch but eventually they will, if history is any judge.

[@Eryionification]

It's also kind of similar to DCS. Whereas the base game is free, DLC vehicles are the same if not more expensive than AAA titles because of the sheer content they provide due to it being a simulation. I'm also hoping this game goes on sale, but I can understand the price.

[@PrimarchX]

CMANO was supported for over 6 years with frequent database updates, patches, improved features, etc at no cost. Well worth the money. No reason to think this won't be the case for CMO.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Hell CMO even lets you Keep all your CMANO DLC and the new game supports it, what game sequel includes backwards compatibility!

[@vietnamabc2290]

@@thehistoricalgamer Not to mention all the royalty tax they paid to use the assets, DCS spent a fuckton of money to get all the aircraft license. It's the sim tax, you can't compare it to usual game.

[@bkup1332]

This looks like a modern version of Harpoon. Is that correct? I loved Harpoon.

[@stardaggerrihannsu2363]

Anyone know if you can deploy SEALs, have them blow something up and then retrieve with a Sub?

[@KhanterWinters]

Somehow, I read in some reviews, you can. Tho I have not seen that oportunity

[@joelcueto2460]

Nice game, been waiting for this game to be released, can I know sir what is your computer specifications? Because your PC can handle the game very smoothly.

[@kommanderpie9152]

Joel Cueto you can go to websites (ex: Can you run it?) and pick a game to check if your computer is up for the job. It create a recommended and minimum section.

[@kajetus0688]

This game is so realistic That Only Military Strategists or ᒷ ̇/ℸ ̣ ∷ᒷᒲᒷ ⍑ᔑ∷↸ᓵ𝙹∷ᒷᓭ can play

[@thehistoricalgamer]

heh... I'm sure some people might feel that way. Still I love how unique and particular the game is.

[@andrefreitas3907]

Could you make a series of walkthrough of the tutorials already existing on the game? Althow they are tutorials, some of them, seem to be a little complicated Thanks :)

[@JohnFrancis66]

Try this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLumwWCWlwh39mBwwGJh-LE4_KWwLobkoT

[@mmccarthy9458]

Scenario editor is awesome. The Russian commander tells the world: "Heh, Battle Damage Assessment takes too long with conventional cruise missiles, so we used ICBMs to eliminate all doubt :)"

[@bennetmauser1430]

i think the "real" name of the f-16s is fighting falcon and that viper is as you said only a nickname

[@Idontuploadhereanymore]

Nyan Cat Viper is a variation of the F16. It’s basically the F16 b a lot more modernized, upgraded, and more on steroids.

[@PEN0311]

I believe the Viper is the Israeli version.

[@001savagE]

@@PEN0311 Viper is a nickname given to it by the pilots. No one who flies an F-16 calls it a "Fighting Falcon."

[@001savagE]

@@Idontuploadhereanymore Viper is just a nickname. Not a variant. Variants are denoted by the different "blocks" and alphabetical designations (A, B, C, D).

[@001savagE]

@@PEN0311 The V is a variant. The F-16 has been called the Viper LONG before it came out.

[@wolfhunter98]

Can you do anything in the editor? Say old say, 1970 items vs 2020? Or a continuing set of missions where what you lose will carry over? Maybe if you do so bad you have to start unmothballing older era jets / boats.

[@egg-iu3fe]

i wonder if playing this game will help me pass selection to get into the air force when i reveal how much military tactics i know

[@akali2927]

No ground battle?

[@jasont2610]

OODA - the Boyd Loop. Observe Orient Decide Act. No idea what the limitation is, but that is what the OODA loop is. Conceptualised by a USAF Colonel - Colonel Boyd, it is a framework for thinking about combat - and other stuff.

[@paulshrimplin4032]

Hello new to this, just downloaded it , all so tac view free version my Question is how do l set up tac view to work with it, or could you do a short video how to enjoy your video ...

[@kylania]

Hi Paul. Under Game -> Game Options -> Tacview tab you simply need to add in the path to the tacview.exe wherever you installed it. You need version 1.8.0 of Tacview installed.

[@jtzenos]

what's the price to buy it?

[@firstcenturion7539]

Aha!!! Love the Independence Day reference!

[@koopanique]

Hello, Where was it? I love Independence Day too!

[@daverockefeller7486]

Greetings from Nagorno-Karabakh. Or how we call it "Arzach". A place where the ceasfire is broken atleast once a week and soldiers on both sides are still dying. Not alot of Russians here though, not yet atleast :)

[@cliftons6811]

Hope you're doing ok now bud

[@mahogulseven223]

Fighting falcon is offical nickname along side viper is used as too But now f-16 block 70 latest f-16 model will be called viper probably they are block 70 f-16's

[@Nangleator22]

You balooganed them!

[@martin1377]

Just an FYI. There is an F-16V Viper. the original F-16 was the Falcon. Great video though.

[@basedeltazero714]

The 3d view is certainly cool, but... that gods eye issue is certainly a problem.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Yea, I wonder how that gets resolved. If at all. Tacview is a separate company and product.

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

How did you get the radio chatter from the pilots?

[@thehistoricalgamer]

It’s part of the game, I didn’t touch anything.

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

@@thehistoricalgamer I played the same scenario and have tac viewer and tired it with and without the tV and no sound. I have music off and sound on lol TY

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

Does it have sound without the tax viewer?

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

I got it. Needed to engage. TY for your wonderful videos you produce.

[@rexi1414]

Nope. Su-57 is Berkut. It's the one with the crazy backwards wings. And Stalingrad was renamed Volgograd some time ago.

[@TheMax0005]

129$ here in canada with tacview (about 149$ with taxes!) but the game looks awesome!

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Yesh! It's at least $30 cheaper here. I'd keep an eye out for sales, they did a pretty good job with CMANO going on sale pretty steeply. Might be a few more months before they do that with this, but it's worth following if you're interested but are scared off by the price.

[@aramnicolasdotbachian519]

Always use a vpn from Argentina. Here we have steam prices infinitely cheaper than in the rest of the world. Here this game costs 3.8 dollars. 5.7$ if you buy with tacview

[@VsmileCZ]

It´s quite enjoyable, but if you´ll do another video, please consider dropping the Tacview in favor of a proper planning phase, the 3D view is more annoying than helpful, at least for me.

[@jafran]

i download it... 5 minutes passed i get annoyed for the music and the missing options button to mute it... and i delete it..

[@warhawkfan1234]

BLK doesn't stand for bulk, it stands for block. Love the video though 👌

[@MidnightmoonRR]

Whats interesting about the AIM-9X, is apparently, it can target and engage aircraft behind you.

[@jshaw3164]

No not behind you, but it is capable of 90 degree off-boresight engagement when coupled with the JHMCS. Its an amazing piece of kit

[@David-eh9le]

The Iris T can do that too and be actually used as an ADS

[@greatdude7279]

@Benjamin McCann Brits tend to refer to military equipment as kits :) Including weapons.

[@bulzome664]

Are ground forces modeled?

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Yes, though it's not primarily a ground combat game. If you want tactical armored warfare you're better with a game like Armored Brigade.

[@epicusdoomicusdelirius]

Viper is the nickname for the F-16 Block 70,also called V.... Falcon is the traditional nickname for the F-16 in general,

[@kinggooseman5373]

Their all nicknamed viper, that’s not new or exclusive to the blk 70, they’ve been called that for a very long time

[@marksmanmerc1]

if i get good at this "game" can i successfully lead military operations? like I'm genuinely asking how accurate is this as a real world simulation cause this looks nothing like a game and more like training software.

[@alfonsobarrado2902]

What about playing canary's cage scenario, it is a really good one isn't it?

[@thehistoricalgamer]

I'd have to check that out. As much as I like CMANO, I suck at it.

[@Stringbean421]

I'm thinking of buying but is this like those military turn-base games where most of the time the A.I always wins?? How realistic is this??

[@thehistoricalgamer]

It’s realistic enough for the pentagon, the German Air Force, and many other govts elect to pay them to use a professional version of the game. It’s super realistic, but also super complex... I generally lose but that’s not because there’s an AI bias but rather because I’m bad.

[@Stringbean421]

@@thehistoricalgamer Thanks for your reply. Just curious though how much more advanced and realistic is the professional version that you mention compared to the watered-down version we ordinary folks have. It's only good enough for the Pentagon e.t.c because it's professional. I need convincing that the A.I aren't really dictating the outcome already otherwise it's all a waste of time putting the effort in.

[@kenhagler7166]

The F-16's "Viper" nickname is indeed a reference to the original Battlestar Galactica.

[@lasagnakob9908]

Japan's variant of the F-16 (The F-2) is nicknamed the Viper

[@schylertkatchew2659]

Little does he know the kitchen is a high altitude antiship cruise missile

[@joejarvis2497]

F-16 Viper? What happened to the F-16 Fighting Falcon?

[@thehistoricalgamer]

The Fighting Falcon is an official name, the "Viper" is a nickname pilots give it... at least that's my understanding.

[@joejarvis2497]

@@thehistoricalgamer Interesting. Are there other nicknames of famous military vehicles received by their crews that the general public isn't aware of?

[@tar5us452]

This game is expensive and it is basically a job. Maybe some people find it fun, but I wouldn't. It would make a great interface with other games like DCS or even a first person game similar to Squad or Arma. Command Professional Edition has contracts with the military because of it's extensive database and is used for logistics training simulations and scenario training.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

It's a simulation, not a game, but I agree it's not for everyone.

[@KhanterWinters]

As THG said, is a simulator. Is also a public release of what Military Command Operators use for training. It started as milcom use only. But Matrix games and Slyther (I think is spelled as that) got allowance to develop it for general public, as far I know this both companies only develop tactical simulators. Concept of game most of time is just free action and fun, but this one... And the background music... At least for me, makes my skin shiver... 😍

[@jamesbrooks3625]

I'm new to this game and considering buying it. I understand the value of that expensive 3d add on, but to me its a bit disapointed to see so much screentime for a secondary product costing a bomb for a First look of a game you are reviewing as I do apreciate your opinion before I might buy it. Love to see a special Command w Tacview though. just not on a first look.

[@benvaughn7482]

So I’m confused. You have to buy the $80 game AND $70 just for tacview? That’s ludicrous

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Tacview is a completely separate product made by a completely separate company. Command offers support for tacview but strictly speaking it’s not part of the game. DCS flight sims or IL-2 both also integrate tacview and require separate purchases as well. There is a bundle on steam or the two products that does give you a discount.

[@Claude-Eckel]

Buy any (study) sim and get used to the prices. Be it DCS and one of its Professional Flight Model and Advanced Systems Modeling aircraft modules, or Il-2 Sturmovik, or PREPAR3D (the Academic License! Don't dare and ask for a Pro License, if 150 bucks are already _'ludicrous'_ for ya!), iRacing etc. The prices are all in the same ballpark. CMO makes no difference, quite the opposite, it costs you about 160 bucks tops. The aforementioned sims can cost you up to thousands! The fewer players a game has (thus the more it is a niche game), the higher the prices, since the expenses of the development are shared among fewer paymasters, right? Hope, that makes sense. It's dead simple. And you don't have to buy TACVIEW to use this sim. It's just for those who can't get enough or already have Tacview anyway, because most of the simmers have it and use it and who haven't got the advanced version yet, might now wanna reconsider and eventually upgrade to it. So, if CMO helped selling Tacview Advanced, then rest assured there was also an according deal made about it behind the curtain. Business as usual too. The predecessor Command: MANO had not even had this feature and yet worked perfectly fine as well.

[@masterman3178]

not to be that guy but im gonna be that guy. The AIM120 is A BVR missle (beyond visual range) dogfights are onlt declared 10nm or closer and fought with AIM7, AIM9 or Guns.

[@SH3Bstanko6]

Don’t nuke Chicago! I live in Will County! Wait til I head south and then do it! LOL!!!

[@cromwellthesynth]

Such an 'advanced' milsim type game....doesn't even have an options box on the menu to lower the god damned volume! XD

[@tmikesecrist3]

most missiles systems have there own radar,

[@MrCoolguy425]

there are a lot of missile systems that do not have individual radars. The most common SAM Systems have individual packages that cooperate, as in radar and launchers are separated. These are usually heavier missile systems and have a magnitude of longer range than your typical AAA battery

[@doggonemess1]

But is it Harpoon? :)

[@ryanpayne9119]

They killed two Su-34s and Russia responds with nukes...Smirnov, I'd start running.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Or just bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.... that radiation has got him cold!

[@ryanpayne9119]

@@thehistoricalgamer And, somehow, he survived. Well, he is a Russian, after all...

[@davidtsw]

I just bought Command with TacView for $25 on Steam. Long live Steam poverty regions.

[@GoodGames.]

Any land combat

[@thehistoricalgamer]

It's not a land combat simulation. Land combat exists, land units exist, and there's been a bunch of enhancements, but the dev even says if you want a armored warfare simulator, a game like Armored Brigade is probably a better bet.

[@dougsmith7616]

The redundant return of the game "Harpoon", (an interesting game that I have enjoyed playing for about 20 years.) NEW NEW NEW! Now with photos and textures!

[@stardaggerrihannsu2363]

I remember Harpoon, this is much better

[@thehistoricalgamer]

This is very different than Harpoon. Same concept but the execution and the refinements are very different. Certainly looks and feels like a very different game than Harpoon.

[@heliowolf5042]

I can tell that you are chroma subsampling, which makes the text difficult to read.

[@evenios2831]

not bad but 80 bucks???? if it had some sort of 3d mode that would have been nice but kinda bloody pricey

[@KingZealotTactics]

tac view is a sort of 3d mode but it's another 30 bucks, and if you want the full experience with the DLC it's crazy ranging from 3-20 bucks and there is over maybe 15 DLC. no excuse for this price and it will make many people look past this game just as I have.

[@demanischaffer]

@@KingZealotTactics However the amount of systems it has documented means there is an insane amount of scenarios and replayability It's essentially a simulator that can be played as a game, especially since there are versions of it specifically meant to be used by militaries

[@earlofdoncaster5018]

I believe Nagorno-Karabakh is pronounced Nag-or-no Kara-bach. Also it's not Slavic.

[@Someone-lr6gu]

It's pronounced as Nagorniy Karabakh.

[@ibraheemtalash5094]

adooobeeeee?

[@loucipher67]

5 1/2 minutes of menu, gripping stuff.

[@MrCoolguy425]

@Zsavage1 calling a game crap because its not for you is, well, quite ignorant at the least.

[@MrCoolguy425]

Zsavage1 this game is obviously not your type of game. If you do enjoy RTS it’s obviously not this niche Subgenre of it, considering most games under this subgenre are in fact very similar. Therefor you would be ignorant under an assessment of this particular game, also considering you didn’t give any insight to your opinion of it being “crap” and it apparently being a fact only highlights your ignorance. Whereas for me being arrogant while that may be true, it certainly is not because of me calling you ignorant on the subject. As for beta testing that fact does not give you expertise in the matter considering you did not give insight as of what you beta tested. As for the menu being terrible, it is in some regards but I’t does better than many main menus, as for navigation, this is quite a good example of navigation considering the complexity of the game and the tools it provides this games UI does a good job of giving clear information as of where the tools are located.

[@MrCoolguy425]

Zsavage1 and to be clear it is not your opinion that makes you ignorant, As everyone can have their own opinion. it is that you present your opinion as a fact that indeed makes you ignorant.

[@FFDmh2223]

yeah there is a f-16V Viper....do you even air fan....bruh

[@fedos]

Um... "Blk" is "Block", not "Bulk".

[@thehistoricalgamer]

Yea I misspoke. This is from a livestream so it's a bit off the cut, slip ups like that get through because of that.

[@gamingmitnoahd4036]

06:41 Rusian Airforce and Trained? Good Joke

[@BrianWilliamDoty]

Command for what? Dude, if someone didn't tell you, AI doesn't need commands.

[@embecmom5863]

gameplay starts 5.22

[@patricksaintjean3365]

Why in gods name is the game nearly $100

[@squarepeg8267]

Looks like a game that would have come out in the early 90s

[@thehistoricalgamer]

The heart and soul of this game is under the hood and the database. Not every game needs 4k 3D graphics with 60 FPS, imho the complexity and gameplay of CMO is vastly superior to many games that look "pretty".

[@KingZealotTactics]

Saw this on steam looked at the price and was like whhhhhhatttt? this game isn't worth the price tag it's fucking crazy 80 bucks and then another 30 for that tac view thing not to mention all the DLC ranging from 3-20 bucks if you want the full experience, what a joke. ( edit ) tacview advance is something like 60 bucks I believe.

[@guhjjify]

Wait until you see Paradox's DLC's.

[@KingZealotTactics]

Solomon Lusk, Yeah the space sims? That's another ridiculous beast.

[@Beeroshima21]

@@KingZealotTactics totally worth it. I've spent thousands of hours playing this game. Dollars spent for hours played, this game is one of my all time best purchases.

[@stardaggerrihannsu2363]

You can join us over in Star Citizen, where some people have spent 50,000 euros on a game that hasn't been released yet.

[@aandredaandred3378]

Whoever nukes Caucasus will burn in hell. Georgia, Armenia and Azebaijan are the most beautiful region of Earth, period. :)

[@Twinjeremy]

$80 on steam... wtf

[@journey7x]

If you are gonna demo a game.... you should know how to play it WELL first.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

The purpose of a “first look” is not to come into a game as an expert. It’s to show you (a new player) what you will likely experience if you buy a game. If I was already an expert, it would not be by definition a “first look.”

[@journey7x]

@@thehistoricalgamer I guess when I think of a first look video I think of a general overall view of a item without getting into the nitty, gritty details. I kind of expect the reviewer to give me a good idea of why I would purchase something. But no biggie man. I am sorry if I came off a little harsh.

[@exmilitarygaming13]

Just seems like a cash grab, release a game, not for cheap, then charge extra for different features like the tac view

[@thehistoricalgamer]

No that's true true, tac view is not their product, DCS and IL-2 both have Tacview support also.

[@David-eh9le]

Not really

[@ghoo4577]

So it is all about menus? Sorry I pass.

[@thehistoricalgamer]

I mean it's certainly not all about menus, but yes it's not an "action" game.

[@pete4258]

I question any game that showcases ChineseJ20 junk, but who knows.

[@BOTG_Adventures]

How is this fun?

[@josephkeen7224]

Because slow paced tactical games are fun.

[@styleslv8800]

Not my cup of tea i guess

[@DrunkenGuitarGuy]

theres no excuse for the price of this "game"!

[@rojwarkalo4782]

to expensive..its a shame lol if it costed around £20 i would of got it but nah 60 is to much

[@user-ov5px6wi9g]

This 3D thing is a total waste of time. It's useless. They 'd better spend dev time to improve the interface and develop a decent multiplayer.

[@LordDrakkon1]

no game worth 80$ in 2019

[@nuraalek8296]

Bollocks. Any game where you can get 100+ hours out of it is easily worth 80 bucks, and games such as this have multiple hundreds of hours of gameplay.

[@David-eh9le]

Its the best Simulation on the market right know, based on real military simulations