Commander Clash: CHAOS! | S9E18 | Pramikon vs. Ruhan vs. Zedruu vs. Kraum & Vial Smasher

[@Revanaver91]

I have never laughed so much during a commander game in my life. This was incredible! Please don't do it again for a long time

[@Fromaginator]

Tomer: chaos week Me: *looks at run time* yep chaos week Seth: I think it might be a fast week Me: *looks at run time* nope chaos week

[@MWorl91]

“We’re all at 4 now. The game will end.” Hour left on the video

[@MWorl91]

Also, I LOVED every bit of this

[@TheQ90011]

i understand tomer on a spiritual level after seeing the 3 hour game length

[@AhranMaoDante]

They were just bad chaos decks. Good ones end the game, while still sowing chaos. For example, I have a Zedruu deck that runs Shared Fate and Windfall effects, forcing everyone to play everyone else's deck and anyone who plays your cards, speeds up your ability to take and play their cards. And because people are less likely to take your cards because of Zedruu, if anyone ever destroys Shared Fate, you are the least effected. Also, Thantis is great as a chaos commander that forces combat, and because of that, games tend to be rather short.

[@Someone-lg6di]

@@AhranMaoDante faced a thantis deck with my enchantment pillowfort deckmit was archnemisis because I had dominant board presence but due to thantis the 2 allies fighting me were attacking each other

[@noodlewizard1852]

@@AhranMaoDante I like to think that there aren’t any bad decks in commander, just decks trying to do certain things on their own power level. While these decks may have been less powerful then the one you proposed, calling them “bad” is just disrespectful.

[@AhranMaoDante]

@@noodlewizard1852 They are bad because most of them didn't build a chaos deck, they just threw random chaos cards into a deck they already had. Even low power decks in commander that are properly built, would have done better. If I'm disrespectful for calling the thrown together decks bad, then surely anyone who has a negative opinion of some sort when it comes to EDH or certain cards, is equally as disrespectful. Which, considering how many people hate Chaos, Infect or Land destruction to the point they'd refuse to play against such, means those people are all just as disrespectful of people that do enjoy those decks as I am being, in your opinion, towards Tomer and friends. Right? Right? If you can't tell, I'm extremely petty towards people/comments that are made with no thought. And clearly, putting down an opinion as "disrespectful" is made without thought. Disagreeing with an opinion is one thing, but to put it down? Tsk, tsk. Surely you should know better, especially now.

[@noodlewizard1852]

@@AhranMaoDante My point is you can make a chaos deck however you want to. A deck doesn’t have to be properly built and do good in game to be fun to play with your friends. In my opinion it is disrespectful to call a deck bad because you think it wasn’t built correctly, and there are better ways to do it. If that were the case, half the decks in my LGS are terrible. But that’s not the point of commander. The point is to have fun with your friends, which they did. To repeat what I said before: There are no bad decks in commander, only decks that are trying to accomplish their own goal. And that’s what these decks did. I made my comment with thought, and to voice my own opinion. You can have yours, and that’s ok.

[@AxillaryPower2]

Seth: "I think this may actually be a short week" Me: looks at 2:58 hour time stamp, "nope"

[@ms.sysbit5511]

To quote Jake: “We’re playing some derivative of magic!”

[@JonathanHecht]

Richard: "who's fate unravler is this?" Crim (the only black player): "I have no Idea..."

[@AxillaryPower2]

Ruhan's ability says that he must attack a random opponent if able. If he's unable to attack that opponent, then his own ability has no effect and there is nothing keeping Ruhan from attacking a different player at that point (aside from other cards restricting combat, like assault suit or Pramikon).

[@Beefman.0]

“Chaos is just stax for people who think they are quirky”

[@spic9h592]

This is the reason I pulled back on a lot of the random stuff in my choas group hug deck. Stuff like planar chaos is just Kira in disguise. I try to limit two chaos things at a time and gauge which grinds the gears of my playgroup the most. I pulled out possibility storm for instance but no hivemind. (Possibility storm has found it's best home in Bell Borca.) anyway

[@twoinone_]

@@spic9h592 tell them to man up and embrace it when you fracute identity your own hive mind- now it's their fault chaos is happening! 😁

[@lucidlullaby894]

This is why I enjoy threatening my friends with chaos cards more than playing them The look on my friend’s face when I show him Thieve’s Auction is better then actually resolving it

[@-homerow-]

Crim was maybe not the perspective for "every card has a paragraph of convoluted text on it" week, since he doesn't enlarge cards very often

[@Gingerbreadley]

The game just slowly went from normal decks to a point where no one had any idea what was going on. We got to watch everything slowly come tumbling down.

[@petercollins1122]

I've watched dozens of episodes of Commander Clash, quite possibly hundreds of hours, and this was hands down the funniest, most absolutely entertaining episode ever. I laughed so much that I hurt. I stayed up multiple hours too late because I couldn't stop watching this. This is the epitome of casual magic with friends - a game where no one really wins, where anything can happen, where it takes computers to sort out the ridiculous trigger orders/replacements and obscure card interactions. This is how I want my casual games to go as long as people will put up with them, just a few friends hanging out, having a great time, wondering what nonsense will come from the decks next. Thank you for indulging us with this, it was wonderful.

[@bbbeware]

you couldn't have said it better

[@hachiman127]

*plays Narset* “Why am I being targeted?”

[@DiabloTommaso]

Not only narset but draw spells afterwards

[@adamfiliatreault3393]

Only Crim would bring a spike deck to a chaos week

[@jckleme]

Seth: "I think this might be a fast week" Boompile: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@NightShadowSystem]

I know you might be busy with the new set the upcoming weeks, but i would suggest a 4 Sisters of Innistrad Week as a fun Theme (with the Release of the last Sister). Just a thought tho :D Keep up your great Games :3 Love you guys (#BRINGTOMBACK)

[@williammountfield8508]

Yes innistradi angel week

[@whynot131313]

Yes pls

[@whynot131313]

If only to see Crim tilt at Sigarda hexproof tribal

[@VRanger100]

Chaos week and a 3 hour video. Either we got fast games or we about to watch the boys lose their sanity.

[@shagua2]

12 minutes in, Crim cam ... Not like this, nooooo, I thought this was gonna be a fun week Crim ! (Edit 4 days later) 2:37:00 Karma

[@anix712]

I find myself frequently in that mindset when it comes to Crim and his trolling plays/cards.

[@miguelfreitas5343]

The reactions from all the other players along this game is exactly the reason I hate Crim's playstyle

[@comradecameron3726]

@@miguelfreitas5343I like it quite a lot.

[@JoshRudis]

Just for Seth: Arjun is one of the better chaos commanders and isn't jeskai.

[@wafflesporq]

For what it's worth- I know you guys mentioned here and also on a post that you're running out of new unexplored ideas. Here's a couple ideas if you want any more! It'd be cool if you went back to specific sets and chose commanders you either missed or want to try to rebuild with newer cards/revenge style. Personally I would love to see Kaladesh 2 electric boogaloo. Having an "old boogeymen" week could be cool, featuring Derevi, Nekusar, original Niv-Mizzet, Oloro, Prossh, all those scary guys people used to be scared of before wizards started making the chulanes and korvolds and nonsense. Revisiting monocolor weeks could be cool! It's been a minute since you did that (plus you could preemptively ban circle of protection white) Community colors week maybe? Find a way for the community to vote for each color combination each player has to use (the best way to force crim to not play grixis) Just some ideas if you're all still looking! But honestly, even if you were just doing anything goes every week, I'd keep watching. Your group dynamic and personalities have always been the main reason I watch, not the silly themes (though those are always fun!)

[@TheAwakeOrangutang]

Gonna go ahead and say, those Old Boogeyman decks are no less terrifying for Chulane and his ilk's existence. What they do is still powerful and they also benefit from getting new goodies. Just because the new stuff is busted doesn't make the old good stuff less good.

[@wafflesporq]

@@TheAwakeOrangutang You're not wrong! But I still think it'd be fun to see.

[@incognito800]

Laughed so hard I cried. Sorry for your pain Tomer but it was fun to watch y'all slowly unravel XD

[@VRanger100]

You could say MTGO “Refused” to let the game to keep going.

[@PhillipAllenfoophil]

This was perhaps my favorite Commander Clash yet. Thanks!

[@cptnmarkov3149]

Crim: Why am I getting targeted. Also Crim: Here's Narset on turn 3 Lol

[@petrsevcik5044]

If creature "must attack a player if able" and can't attack that player, it can attack anyone it otherwise could. This also works with "can't attack unless" effects like Sphere of Safety.

[@NickyKnickerson]

Honestly, I think MTGO sent the Refuse to end its misery

[@commanderpower99]

"Of course it does, I never lose" *procedes to Boompile everything* Daaaaaaaamn

[@MeriadocMyr]

What if we rebrand "chaos" week to "Destroy mtgo" week. Instead of chaos without a wincondition, it becomes chaos with the goal of breaking mtgo. Is that more acceptable Tomer?

[@joshcaboche7384]

The perfect ending. Also, I can't believe Seth's Perplexing Chimera and Teferi's Realm survived Seth's death. I thought they'd be exiled?!!

[@MTGGoldfishCommander]

Anything's possible on chaos week!

[@whynot131313]

I think it depends on how they entered play? Or something?

[@EffinChat]

I think it's because they were phased out when Seth died. I don't think it's right, but I think that's the reason they remained

[@MrShinyObject]

Editor got an internet cookie! Good for them!

[@Darchias]

If Ruhan selects an illegal target, it is no longer forced to attack. If Ruhan does this, it's controlled can choose to attack any legal target, or not attack at all. This would include being forced to swing into a Propaganda effect (it can't force you to pay) Posted before the Editor confirmed it

[@enbt93]

Thank you guys for playing it out so goofy all the way to the end. 55 warp worlds was ABSOLUTELY the content I was here for.

[@hamie96]

I'm so glad this finally happened. Even though Chaos is a very annoying archetype for many, I enjoy the absolute randomness and headaches that cards such as Timesifter and Psychic Battle cause in both MTGO and paper.

[@dahuntre]

It’s a real pallet cleanser - it’s fun in the beginning, but it’s so tiring that in the aftermath I can’t help but appreciate regular games more xD

[@brningpyre]

Thank you to the editor, you're the real hero this week.

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

Just having found this episode, years after the fact, now I learn, there's a SLIVER EPISODE? I know what I am gonna watch today. Good Monday.

[@jasonkorf7700]

Sees the theme and sees that it's nearly three hours long. Okay, how many times did you guys break Modo?

[@shaynerichey520]

This was so much fun to watch. Actual Uno: The Movie levels of pain and still not wanting to give up lol

[@Ariaoff.Limits]

Yes - I love this self-inflicted pain - I do want yall to do it again! :)

[@Ih8appls]

Despite being frustrating for you, this was the most entertaining episode in a loooong time. And commander clash is highly entertaining by its own already. Thank you for the laughs :-D

[@Gingerbreadley]

I was hoping for the return of mono red mono random but I’m loving the crazy themes. I think Tomer has ptsd from that episode with Jake.

[@indolent87]

Ooh, I LOVE this week's theme! Time to grab some snacks!

[@CyberNewType]

This episode had me in tears the whole time! OMG...my head hurts from laughing so much!

[@FinsleysTreasures]

100% would watch these everytime if it was chaos! That was the most fun commander clash I've ever watched

[@doubleayrun]

The thumbnail for this one reminds me a lot of one of my Dad's books when I was growing up : Stalking the Nightmare, by Harlan Ellison. Great art as always by the thumbnail artist, they're a great part of the channel :)

[@cinco_de_la_tarde]

This video can be described in one word. Delightful.

[@andrewgolubiewski3463]

The chaos is amplified as a viewer who doesn't know what ALL these cards do. What was cast? What did it do? Can YOU track the board states? Because I can't, and it's glorious.

[@kristbg]

This was absolutely hilarious. More please!

[@tylerfoster2814]

I'm not sure if the groans or laughter sustained me more, but in either case, this game was a win.

[@KelrictheMinion]

This had to be one of the best endings. I couldn't have imagined it to end any other way. Moto got them in the end even if it didn't fail the game from all the chaos.

[@grunermrk]

Seth killing himself before his upkeep without realizing it has to be the funniest thing I've ever seen on commander clash

[@42lukas]

Crim - " You'll all at four now" *Checks timestamp of video* - "yet there is another hour to go"

[@johnmichaelbushman]

"I don't know where these spells are coming from." Yep. Chaos week.

[@bobbyjbarron]

This was fantastic, this is going down as my 2nd favorite commander clash ever. 2nd to the competitive week where ruric thar smashed the table. It took me all day to watch this monster of a video. Watching you guys suffer together brought tears of laughter to my eyes as I watch Seth turn 9 with 2 lands. Listening to crim tease Seth about his sever lack of lands was the funniest in the context that crim is notorious for not having that many lands. The boom pile flips were amazing!!! The 3rd boom pile activation that Richard called "I never lose" was the most magical moment in the game. Like its one thing to win a flip, but to proclaim the flip. It was another level of entertainment. When Seth just suddenly lost I was just as surprised as every one else and busted out laughing when we figured out that all that was during his upkeep 😆 thank goldfish crew for subjugating yourselves to such hilarity. Please please please do this again in a few years, hell I'd love to see it next year.

[@vidlyvonkompost3652]

this has to be the best commander clash episode ever! so much fun! :D

[@hellmans_fury490]

That was such a hilarious ending and perfect chaos I love it! xD

[@mattgeffery8577]

the ending was perfect. this was my favorite

[@kaszael]

41:00 for what it's worth, even if Seth hadn't boompiled, Tomer wouldn't have drawn any cards because of Omen Machine.

[@JesperHasteen]

This was awesome, can't wait for the next chaos week!

[@NH-wx1fq]

Wow!!!! Fun game to watch and laughing hard alot at. Bring it back again please.

[@sizemoreross]

Everyone: It's Chaos Week. Crim: *digs out normal deck* XD Never change crim.

[@JCFoxpox]

Tomer, the reason confusion in the ranks did only enchantments is that you correctly guessed warp world does enchantments last. It does that so that there is something on board when you put any enchant creatures onto the battlefield.

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

That was the best and most fitting ending ever

[@monogreen]

If I was in this week, I'd try to find a different meaning of chaos. All cards with Chaos in the name or flavour text? Maybe a deck of cards entirely from Planar Chaos?

[@brandong9145]

Isn't coin flipping bugged on arena so that tails always wins or am I just making that up?

[@smartkaboose3806]

Perfect way to end this chaotic game. Perfect.

[@JonathanHecht]

im surprised no one showed up to chaos week with the king of chaos Yidris the "literally everything in my hand has cascade now" commander

[@dominusanimus5726]

This game was bloody hilarious! 😂 I died at the end of that slog

[@everettstatz1682]

Easily the best episode of Commander Clash ever. That being said, chaos magic is the most entertaining kind of magic 😂😁.

[@TazChannel101]

This is one of the best games I've ever seen.

[@cooldude7409]

26:00 Like how Tomer had Teferi for the knowledge pool

[@samhairle]

@2:23:55 why does it say Crim can't cast odd mana Shatterskull?

[@beeholmes2430]

Crim's chaos deck reminds me of an old Nekusar deck I ran with just a few more chaos effects I love it

[@oneinfinity]

So, did Crim just forget that he had a 4/4 with flying and haste in the command zone and could have killed anyone at any point with it once everyone was at 4 life?

[@whynot131313]

If he did, thank goodness. He was already by far the spikiest player at the table... This ending was much better

[@ThatOneSomethingg]

Oh god, i was dying of laughter this whole game

[@redstonepro5412]

crim kindof missed the difference between "chaos week" and "stax week"

[@erikjohnson2612]

I don't necessarily enjoy _playing_ chaos decks, but this was a pleasure to watch.

[@Olivia-ev9hk]

Always remember the most fun way to beat a Notion Thief is with a Consecrated Sphinx

[@kingfuzzy2]

Or lady of scrolls wizard draw

[@darthsurya88]

Crim is like a kid in a candy store with everyone playing chaos

[@MeriadocMyr]

These decks have the same wincon as my irl chaos deck. Confuse your opponents until they accidently defeat themselves.

[@Goldfisher]

Seth watched league, yay. (I avidly play and watch LoL). Also this was my favorite episode since sliver week II.

[@aaronhooper4803]

This is such an old video, but it should be noted that Warp World counts cards you OWN not cards you CONTROL. It's why it works so well with Zedruu!

[@MeriadocMyr]

2:14:00 Tomer why did you give some of your good enchantments away but kept some useless ones? Should have definately traded confusion in the ranks away to it's own effect so you could keep the planar chaos with the krark's thumb on your side or to keep the rhystic study.

[@TH3L3M0N]

only a couple of minutes in, was hoping for Crim to turn 1 Burning Inquiry to really set the tone

[@GiovanniBoss]

Good Lord, not chaos. Thieves' Auction is a card that makes me instantly concede. I must really like you guys to watch such a thing.

[@zotha]

On MTGO these effects are ok. My objection to chaos decks is random Cheeto hands cretins at my LGS touching my stuff

[@Nathanael_Forlorn]

32:13 Isnt that just...left? So exactly what seth has chosen?

[@Gingerbreadley]

Homeward path needs to be banned if you guys do this again

[@MarshallDog]

This is the most amazing game of magic I've ever seen.

[@jacobsocia3966]

This was amazing and I hope they do this again

[@Infernoman64]

A twist on chaos week next time...each of you make a chaos deck...but you each randomly pick a different deck.

[@keesballema1333]

HAHAAHAH i laughed so hard!! this is my favorite episode EVER! i love crim's vibe hahahah

[@2LPfan]

chaos week is amazing please do this as often as possible.

[@nicholasrolo886]

So if ruhan is unable to attack the person that pramikon designated, he just can't attack?

[@LukeSciarappa]

AFAICT, if Ruhan can't attack the player that its ability chose (for any reason), its controller may choose whether it attacks and what player or planeswalker it attacks if it does, still obeying any other restrictions. (In this case, Assault Suit still means it can't attack its owner, and Pramikon means it can't attack any players other than the next one in the chosen direction. So e.g. on the first turn where this came up, Seth could attack Crim or not attack at all, no other choices.)

[@MeriadocMyr]

6:40 Crim considering turn 1 burning inquiry. My screaming at my screen to do it.

[@JV-lq3tx]

9:14 Is that an Andrew W.K. reference?

[@christianpena7748]

Crim kinda ruined the potential for this game. I’m not the biggest fan of chaos decks, but I would have enjoyed seeing the guys wrestle with the randomness of four chaos decks. Instead, Crim plays Narset/Notion Thief+Wheels and other punisher cards. He creates such a bad tension a third of the way thru the game that lasts until the end bc no one has the usual answers. He just needs to stop forcing Grixis and resist playing stax pieces.

[@telisabeth]

Great Content! Could not stop smiling! :D Would love-hate to play it out in paper! XD

[@davidhansen5067]

Well, at least we got it out of our system and we can go and play Azorius Week now. Show off the non-control, non-blink archetypes in Commander? Right?

[@mattmorroz4899]

fiery gambit says it deals 6 to each opponent if you win 2 or more. Richard had won but kept flipping because everyone said you need 3.

[@solarraine4902]

Seth chose left for Pramikon at 31:47 right? that's why Ruhan can attack Crim. Crim is to the left of Seth?

[@deadweaselfilms]

Crim got everyone down to 4 life and there is still an hour left on this video.