SIMAGIC Alpha Mini Wheelbase 10nm - Review after 1 Year

Is this wheelbase the king of the midrange market? Or is it the doorman of the high end market, with mid-range prices, the Simagic Alpha Mini wheelbase review. A 10nm wheel who feels like it secretly has more to give. An amazing wheelbase for simracing! Let me know what you think!
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[@GiosSimCorner]

I'm a Simagic fanboy. I jumped from a Logitech G923 to a Simagic Alpha 15nm along with the P2000 pedals with the haptic motors. Best upgrade ever

[@pflynhi]

I can not thank you enough! I've had my Alpha 3-4 months now and could never for the life of me get it dialed in for iRacing, your settings work great for me and I've spent the last 4 hours going thru some my cars and getting the ffb set and smiling ear to ear, some of these cars I have never felt comfortable in, that's changing. These settings along with a reddit post explaining Torque/Strength have been siMagic 😉

[@JACKZERYT]

Oh I'm glad ot helped so much, happy hunting!!!

[@Max__apex]

Simagic is awesome. The FFB is so clear and the best in the industry I have tried all the bases over the years from simucube to Leo bodner to Fanatec

[@Stas1503]

Big thanks for recommendations how to avoid overheating! I think no one of long time users on KZbin has ever mentioned that smoothness can down temp of the base

[@JACKZERYT]

Yeah I prefer smoothing on Zero, but so as not to destroy my wheel, I use 1, feel gooey at first but now I love it alot, and it makes me faster too

[@brycetucker1859]

I also run a $25 vornado fan right behind my mini. Huge difference in temperature.

[@r3vlimit3r]

I am not sure what I am in love with more......the new camera and all that fancy camera work or the SIMAGIC beauty

[@fosolif01]

Thanks a lot. I ordered the Alpha, the fx-formula-wheel und the p1000 pedals yesterday. Bye-bye thrustmaster t300 and T-LCM-Pedals. I will comment in a few weeks again and let you know what happened :-)

[@brycetucker1859]

Your world is about to change

[@fosolif01]

Now i got it all, Alpha, fx-Formula-wheel and the p1000 rs hydralic pedals. It is FANTASTIC!!! Starting with unboxing, mounting, settings it is All GREAT!! I´m speechless. After just few minutes of driving i feel like in heaven. One of the best things i ever bought. It is really a new world.

[@tkdmp5698]

@@fosolif01 Do you like it ? I just ordered a rig and then i go simagic

[@ushubushu]

@@fosolif01 Hi! Congrats. What's rhe cons with T-LCM in your experience?

[@thijsazerty692]

@@ushubushu not that many 'customisable options', aftermarket elastomer on the brake is very nice to add, and some other options to add from 3Drap for example. But at this point i'd look at simagic P500 as a starter set if you're buying a new set

[@zachknauer6289]

Just ordered mine, ETA next week im stoked. Only complaint I can really criticize is that the power switch to the base is on the cord opposed to being somewhere on the base

[@errolchanner]

Good review, I've had the Mini & Gt Neo for about 3 months. Its amazing. I cant imagine what the 15 & Ultimate feels like but the Mini is more than enough. Plan on getting the P1000 & GTS wheel for Rallying. Only thing is its a very expensive echo system especially coming from Thrustmester products. I'll have to save lol

[@DrR1pper]

"Buy once, cry once" 😢😭😂

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Love it! Also tbh the software has gotten so good and its do simplistic i cant imagine wanting more. I hated fansteks software and aseteks is to bloated. It was a big selling point for me with simagic. I like simple and effective stuff. Like the game reccomendations for settings, the profiles and more. All of these wheelbases are amazing. I do eant peoppe to know each motor they go up to the weight comes in more. Like my umtimate the shaft is smooth and very fluid but it def has more weight even when off while turning. But out of every 20nm wheelbase ive used this one is the most fluid in motion meaning its still got that floaty simagic feel that no other wheelbase has that ive tried. As you said it makes it feel like its only forces its not like a spring or filter even the snap is from the forces not a true spring effect like fanatec. I love the feel nothing for my preference matches the feeling of ubloading and loading of corners and the edge of grip these bases relay. Which imo is the most important effect of a wheelbase. I love how you can find it instead of just going by overly heavy center forces.

[@DrR1pper]

Which Alpha are you using?

[@Wilayaat]

Great review of a super product. I've started the transition from Fanatec, went for the Alpha & GT Neo from CS DD 8Nm + McLaren GT3 v2. Both cost more of course but the quality shines through; Simagic are doing great things right now. To comfirm what you touched upon all their wheelbases have more maximum torque than advertised which means for most the Mini would be plenty enough.

[@RyKnocks]

Are you feeling like you're missing anything from not going to the Alpha? I have the CS DD 8Nm right now and want to upgrade.

[@Wilayaat]

@@RyKnocks - I did go for the Alpha. Glad I did but based on limited experience of it so far the Mini would likely have been more than enough.

[@EndureRacing]

​@@RyKnocks I have the CSL DD and upgraded to Alpha, didn't want the mini to feel like a side grade even if it's not. Never need another wheelbase again with the Alpha though

[@DrR1pper]

​@@EndureRacing are you finding yourself running the Alpha at effectively Mini's level of max force output?

[@DrR1pper]

@@Wilayaat are you finding yourself running the Alpha at effectively Mini's level of max force output?

[@jeffwertz2953]

Thanks for the review. Just purchased this base with the GT Neo wheel. Selling my CSL DD and Formula V2.5 wheel. I would've liked to see your FF settings in iRacing for reference. Max Force, Wheel Force, Intensity, Smooth, Damping, & Min Force.

[@JACKZERYT]

All of those are Zero and intensity is just hoe strong the auto goes, put it at 50% and start from there, Do not use ingame smoothing damping or min force, in my opinion as these add BS that masks the little details. A bit of damping in SimPro if needed Max force will change from car to car, make sure you click on it in the black box and work off Nm as.opposed to "force" Like super formula is 42nm gt3 is 28nm Mazda is 20mm Hit the auto button the don't be afraid to adjust a lil up or down to suit you, then remember the number or write it down.

[@jeffwertz2953]

@@JACKZERYT Thanks. I appreciate all the great info!! I'm not only new to Simagic, but iRacing as well.

[@kevinblythe2192]

I notice you have the Version 1 (v1) mini wheelbase with the 252w motor but I understand current version 3 uses a 237w motor to overcome earlier identified overheating issues. Those early v1 bases were putting out up to 13nm of power so I guess they are down to 10nm now. I kind of wish newer reviews like this reflected current model but I get it .. this is a long term review. Good job.

[@JACKZERYT]

To be honest my friend, you've thought me something new, and very clearly too! I know V3 is out soon I think with slight changes , hmm interesting.

[@Lorenzovonmatter]

Good review man 👍

[@JACKZERYT]

Thanks, means alot! I tried my best :D

[@herkert5430]

Probably late but what would you buy today if you had to choose. Moza R12 or Alpha Mini 10 NM?

[@JACKZERYT]

@herkert5430 alpha mini, hands down. For the smoothness and quality. I am supported by simagic and I.love their gear so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But honestly, I'd get an Alpha 15nm if I were you and never have doubts. That suckered will last your years and years and years

[@herkert5430]

@ Thank you for your quick response. I have never had any wheelbase before, but I wanted something that would be considered the best in price. Also thank you for telling me you’re supported by them.

[@JACKZERYT]

@herkert5430 no worries, I'd suggest you join my discord, lots of people there who are so passionate about the sport, and you can have a deeper more colourful discussion about it, no need to do it on your own! A bit of help is always a good thing. To be honest what ever you get I'm sure you'll love!

[@herkert5430]

@@JACKZERYT I’ll join your discord. Again thank you!

[@abedharb8485]

hey man great videos im torn between the mini and the alpha ,alpha U is out of the question what do you recommend is the 5 nm difference a game changer or its only providing stronger details

[@lesyoung7644]

excellent review thx

[@marvingvk]

What kind of Seat/Rig do you use? Looks like a Playseat Trophy to me. I do use this one. If I’m right, are you happy in combination with the alpha mini?

[@JACKZERYT]

It looks the same maybe, I have a setup video where I show it a little better. It's an oubtto rig, with a QSP Racewear bucket seat

[@erichdanke5631]

Nice review mate! Where did your get that rpm-led bar from? :)

[@JACKZERYT]

Etsy buddy :)

[@kratoslck3372]

Thanks a lot for this review. helps a lot. Could you share the iracing and simagic setup？Want to try your configurations. thanks

[@JACKZERYT]

I'll post it in my discord later :)

[@kratoslck3372]

@@JACKZERYT thanks, very appreciate

[@Its_d3niel]

Hey, I've been looking at getting this as my first DD base. I currently use a Thrustmaster T248, a slightly better version of the infamous g920. How big of a difference is this? Will I be shocked with it? And most importantly, will I have the urge to upgrade after a bit? Great vid btw

[@MaxiimTribe]

If you did this again, would you get the 10nm or the 15?

[@JACKZERYT]

The 15nm you've no idea how much regret I have because I cheaped out on like 130euro..... Real talk, I came from a CSL elite which was 6.8nm to 10nm DD, it was a huge difference, but now I'm stronger and although 10nm is enough, it's the details a strong wheel can provide to me without Clipping. So yeah buy once cry once sorta thing. I've recently done this and not taken half measures when purchasing and I've been pretty happy. I know there different in price but a thought experiment for you.. Heads you get a 10nm, tails you get a 15nm, flip a coin (actually do it trust me.) And are you happy with the result. Yes good. If not, why. That should answer it for you.

[@JACKZERYT]

Good question BTW.

[@MaxiimTribe]

@@JACKZERYT Thank you for the thorough response. And I like the 'ol flip a coin and you'll know exactly which option you were hoping for. The question was really based around wanting to get back into the sim racing hobby but not wanting to go super deep down the rabbit hole. I've narrowed it down to getting a simagic setup with base/wheel/pedals I just wasnt sure which base to get and I think the 15 is going to be the perfect middle ground for me performance and cost wise.

[@tkdmp5698]

@@JACKZERYT Hello, i hear that a lot The mini is strong enough but some say that they would like a little bit torque. The alpha is definetelly enough. I will buy simagic after my rig is ready in 2 weeks. The U is only available and the alpha will be available in 1,5 month I can buy the U,i think its wasted power you will never need. Would you wait to get the alpha and keep 250 or would would jump and get the U? I dont know but it might be nice to have the "Ultimate" and have "infinite" torque

[@JACKZERYT]

@tkdmp5698 the U, I'd like to use 12-14nm and have more headroom than 1nm , this is absoloutley the expression, buy once cry once. My next purchase I don't want to ever have to worry about Clipping. So max headroom makes sense, and learning to use more (Not excessive) amounts of torque is a cool way to get an arm workout in while having fun

[@brycetucker1859]

Love my Mini. Currently have it with the GT Neo, P1000 with haptics. Sim Magic has helped bring competition to the market space with quality at a solid value.

[@DrR1pper]

Nice. I'm planning on the GT Neo and P1000's with haptics too but unsure whether to go with Mini or Alpha. Does it feel like you could have benefited from the Alpha instead even though the Mini is great?

[@thatswiki3728]

​@@DrR1pper Try to find the Mini used, the older versions have higher torque peaks.

[@DrR1pper]

@@thatswiki3728 thanks for the recommendation but I’ve decided to go with Asetek instead now. Still haven’t bought one yet though.

[@mikea9058]

Should I get this mini or an R9? I can get R9 100? less. Already have R5 but ready to move up a little

[@JACKZERYT]

Hmm my opinion: (which is only mine so taken it with a pinch of salt) I'd go from the R5 to something with 10+, I love my simagic stuff so I'll pbv recommend the 10nm Mini, but I would have a think about going from 5nm to 9nm might be alot of hassle for only a wee gain. But then again it's all down to your needs.

[@alecmillea4539]

I have an Alpha U, it can and will hurt you if you're not careful. Using 100% strength actually gives a sense of danger to the driving experience. It no longer just feels like a game. It feels like a battle. It gives that feeling of agression to the driving experience that you can see from onboards that the people in old racecars would've felt behind the wheel. No one needs that much power in a wheelbase. Its not practical or useable for any real duration of time. The best ive done is a full F4 practice quali and race on full strength. You have to quickly learn to avoid curbs and rumble strips. My wrists were shattered afterwards.

[@jonivtec25]

I really do love my mini....but im on the strong side...so im not saying its not enough powerfull but if it wasnt from availability and have to start again...i'll would get the alpha just to have some headroom. Alpha ultimate is overkill for vast majority of simracer.

[@JACKZERYT]

We're in the same boat lol, if we had a time machine the extra 150 for the alpha just makes sense hahah, But honestly the mini is alot, and deffo if setup right, is enough to be really really fast

[@DrR1pper]

Which steering wheel are you using your mini with?

[@jonivtec25]

@@DrR1pper GTS

[@brycetucker1859]

Where’s the likes at?!?!

[@nycsox987]

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