Thanks for doing the review, there are basically none of the Meta SX. I ordered one last week.
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought it was weird there were none as it’s super relevant and on the new Bosch platform.
@micagas9 ай бұрын
Amazomg bike, I'm between the meta sx and the torque on cf 9, I live in Andorra
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
@@micagas does the canyon have the bosch?
@armandosaavedra23929 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnieonly the strive
@micagas9 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie the canyon torque has the ep 801
@brunolaberge32149 ай бұрын
First good review i found on this e-bike! Did you try the giant e-reign?
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! Nope, haven’t ridden that one yet.
@davin-ross3 ай бұрын
Nice review, Jon. I will be coming back to your channel. Your format is great.
@MTBJonnie3 ай бұрын
@@davin-ross hey thanks!
@finroddd9 ай бұрын
another good review, thanks man! I always get the impression that Jon Mottern has played football at some point in time. Is that so?
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the line! lol nah. Some LAX in high school but just MTB since my 20s.
@KeeganS-bt7kv3 ай бұрын
Have you tried the YT Decoy? I’m deciding between the two bikes at the moment, your review is super helpful
@nathanbaldwin97129 ай бұрын
Totally agree with your review.ive done 1800km on my power sx race size xl. Im 6 foot 3 and feels natural coming from a meta v4.2 with 482 reach and the seat tube alot shorter and steeper now which is really good.alot more centered on the bike now! i did consider a size large though. i was going to shorten the stem and get higher bars if it was too long but havnt felt the need to.its good on steep and jumps. Turn the power down to do an epic ride but for me its two or three hours of full power at my local like yourself.
@mpavlin9698 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the great review! I currently ride a Commencal Clash in size XL. I was wondering if you have any experience with how the geometry "feel" differs between non-electric and electric versions of similar bikes. My Clash fits me really well, and while the geometry seems very similar on paper between the Clash and the Meta SX, I wanted to check before I pull the trigger on a Meta Power.
@hurliburli42725 ай бұрын
Great Review, sounds honest
@tonygSDWR9 ай бұрын
I'm buying the meta power sx essential with the fox suspension. You were testing the meta power race model with the Zeb forks I think? As the Orbea you rode had the same fox fork as the essential model, how would you compare them to the Zeb. Great review!
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
I think the Fox performance 38 rides great I have no complaints!
@ShakespearesGardenBrookfield9 ай бұрын
Curious to know where you were riding in Colorado.
@ckkone8 ай бұрын
Great review trying to decide between this and a Turbo Levo Carbon Comp, any advice?
@MTBJonnie8 ай бұрын
Personally I’d opt for the Bosch motor in the Commencal. The Levo will be a more plush ride though if that’s what you’re after.
@grillob39 ай бұрын
So between wild and meta power sx? Specially for jumps and burns? Nice review!
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
If I’m chasing timed runs, wild. For pure fun, SX.
@havenoutdoors5849 ай бұрын
How was the seat tube length for you? I’ve gotten picky about having too long of seat tube on bikes and this one looks like it’s on the long side. At least on the XL frame. That was one of the biggest reasons I went with the Turbo Levo when I got an Ebike. Hoping the next version of the Meta Power addresses that.
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Honestly didn’t bug me 🤷♂️. I have heard that complaint from others but it wasn’t an issue for me and I did take it down some 40-50% gradients outside of Boulder if you know where I’m talkin about.
@danielstreitmaier32989 ай бұрын
How tall are you? Nice video thanks for review this bike!!
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Just shy of 6 foot 2 inches. Thanks for watching.
@danielstreitmaier32989 ай бұрын
Ok thanks i have ordered the L. I think this bike makes lot of fun🤙
@sjaan73709 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie I wonder if at 6'/183cm I could get away with a medium? Great review by the way!
@felipehenriquez63348 ай бұрын
Hi thank you for the review, im buying it ! , im 6,2 too, should I go for L or XL ? What would you do ? Thank you again
@MTBJonnie8 ай бұрын
Such a tough call. I think if fun is jumping around and maneuverability, go L. If fun means going as fast as you possibly can in a relatively straight line, XL.
@felipehenriquez63346 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie Thank you for your review, I bought L and I love the bike
@MTBJonnie6 ай бұрын
@@felipehenriquez6334 congrats! Hard to go wrong sizing down on an ebike to be honest.
@RandShoaf9 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on ride quality vs durability between carbon (Orbea) vs aluminum (Commencal) frame?
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Im actually on alloy versions of both so it’s been apples to apples. Both feel pretty stiff so I have dialed compression back on both.
@STLMTB5 ай бұрын
Did you have issues with BB strikes? I really want the mullet but a little worried about pedal strikes and chain ring strikes over some of our mote technical downhill.
@MTBJonnie5 ай бұрын
@@STLMTB I did smash the motor shield twice in some very rocky tech but most of the time I can maneuver to avoid. It’s surprisingly playful
@kevinescott84686 ай бұрын
What kind of range are you seeing, i know it is subjective to the rider and such but curious as to what you are experiencing?
@MTBJonnie6 ай бұрын
@@kevinescott8468 I can ride about 15-18 miles in steep steep terrain in turbo mode pedaling hard and using lots of juice for about 3 hours before I need to bail. But by then and riding that way I’m kinda gassed.
@kevinescott84686 ай бұрын
Thanks, another question. Did you have any observations regarding the aluminum frame versus a carbon…..I am trying to narrow down between the YT Decoy and the Commencal Meta Power SX and was wondering if you hade the chance to look at the YT. Enjoy your videos 😊
@MTBJonnie6 ай бұрын
@@kevinescott8468 hey thanks! You know I haven’t been on the decoy but I can say I personally just love a metal bike. The ONLY note is when you try to grab it by the top tube, around the shock area, the metal is a little hollowed out to make space for the shock and it’s can be painful to lift the bike from there.
@kevinescott84686 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie thanks for the input!!
@ElMejorBodybuilder8 ай бұрын
Where is the charging port? Any issues with that door?
@MTBJonnie8 ай бұрын
It’s a rubber cover that sort of slots itself in right above the motor. No issues so far. It is a thinner rubber so I could see it being a wear item that you may have to replace if owning the bike for a while.
@ElMejorBodybuilder8 ай бұрын
Ok. I’m buying this bike based on your review so you should probably work out something with commencal. Thanks.
9 ай бұрын
Which bike, the Commencal or the Wild has the most upright position while pedaling? If only the Wild came as mullet...
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Wild with mullet would be a serious contender. My wild is more stretched out but it’s also an XL. Apples to apples I think they both feel pretty upright.
9 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie Thank you, waiting for the Wild review
@toHelluRide9 ай бұрын
I’ve been anti e bike for a while but this video has opened my eyes. (A little haha) You gonna throw a leg over the new Yeti SB 165 soon?
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Yeah they have a demo day coming up. Won’t be a full blown review but some solid impressions on a trail I know very well.
@toHelluRide9 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie you doing the SG demo in Lyons or GBS in Golden?
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
@@toHelluRide GBs!
@toHelluRide8 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie did you throw a leg over the Sb 165 last weekend?
@MTBJonnie8 ай бұрын
@@toHelluRide actually couldn’t make it :(
@Tequila6289 ай бұрын
You see a Jon Mottern review - you watch it!
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
You’re the best, dude.
@Tequila6289 ай бұрын
@@MTBJonnie
@havenoutdoors5849 ай бұрын
Also, great review!
@jeereB5 ай бұрын
which color is that bike?
@MTBJonnie5 ай бұрын
@@jeereB chalk
@reidcoleman71769 ай бұрын
Whats the weight on this bike? I saw that the small is 55 lbs 😮
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
To be honest I forgot to weigh it. Felt in line with my wild which is about 54 pounds though. 50-56 or so is negotiable in my opinion though with e-bikes.
@edarnold990179 ай бұрын
Thanks for not naming the “place” !
@MTBJonnie9 ай бұрын
Sacred things are sacred
@bonntec9 ай бұрын
I ordered mine in november in size XL, im 6'3 and it feels too long for me. Its not unrideable long but i wish I ordered L. Everything else is absolutely awesome. So if someone out there have an L and wants XL let me know
@joshballingall45908 ай бұрын
I thought it might be the case, but lucky my friend has the same bike in a L and it felt like a XL (same height)
@felipehenriquez63347 ай бұрын
Hi, im 6,2ft and I was about to order size XL but based on this maybe I should get size L, Do you still feel you should be riding size L?
@bonntec7 ай бұрын
@@felipehenriquez6334 so I have been riding my bike for a few months now. I changed stem to 35mm, and it feels better. I would say I'm pretty much comfortable on the bike riding steep downhill, trails but when it comes to steep tech climbs I think I would be better on size L same applies to tech switchbacks. I'm in-between sizes so are you as well and it comes to personal preference, do you like smaller bike feel or larger more stable bike feel.
@felipehenriquez63347 ай бұрын
@@bonntec thank you!
@thecount10013 ай бұрын
you can find fault with Magic Mary and Big Betty combo?? wow. these are probably the top dh racing tires in the world.
@MTBJonnie3 ай бұрын
@@thecount1001I feel much differently about the radial super gravity variety.
@okamisan36423 ай бұрын
Welcome Ebro.
@thecount10013 ай бұрын
Commencal is brand that performs so high and wins so many gravity oriented races that i don't think they care about advertising or getting bikes to the testers for reviews.
@NoOneIsGoingToSaveYou7 ай бұрын
When I call Commencal they pronounce it differently than you.