Flex Seal, Turbo Poly Seal, Super Silicone Seal comparison and flexibility and strength test

[@cmdess]

The gorilla tape is a little better than the flex in my experience. That turbo poly is interesting because of the fleece tape stuff that goes between the applications. They recommend doing that for the others as well. The flex spray didn't work as mentioned.

[@redpost2380]

That's a very good no frills test but you need to use the mesh for all or it defeats the purpose of the comparison. The mesh you use is probably made from a polyester cloth. Have you ever tried polyester reusable cloth like Scotch brite reusable wipes? They are cheap and just as good if not better. You might want to test them immersed in your super silicon and turbo poly seal. You are lucky to have the Bergstromm brand available. Not every country has it.

[@JasonISF]

Here in Australia, Bastion branded 'waterproof reinforcement fabric' is readily available everywhere in rolls from our largest hardware store chain. And yes it's just polyester cloth.

[@jimnielsengmail]

I have some flex sewer pipe buried from the downspouts to a drainage area far from the house. I have a place where a connector has blown out. Definitely going to use the Turbo Poly Seal and fleece for patching it up!! Thanks for your video!!

[@jonathanbuford1793]

I had 4 coats of flexes spray hold up on old copper pipes I didn’t even clean them before I sprayed. Under pressure it lasted 4 years I moved so don’t know Ayer that 3 plumbers cheapest estimate $700 1 can of flexseal-BAM

[@telumears]

Looks like the fleece is the key? Would be interesting to redo the "test" with fleece in every product. What is the fleece material? Thank you for your videos, very informative!

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

The test was done as the products are sold and advertised. It is not fair to enhance one product with another product and then make a test. This is how Flex Seal advertise their product. This is how Bergstrom advertise theirs

[@susanstrong8797]

I like if you used flex liquid with the fleece..that would been more fair

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

You are just ignorant as others. The test is about products as you buy them off the shelf. Why should I go and enhance a product with another material to make it fair. You need to check out what is fair. If you could buy the fleece with the spray or Flex Seal, be my guest. You ignore what the test is about and try to give opinions about unfairness.

[@johnportwood6223]

Why not put the fleece on the others

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

That’s how the products are sold

[@AN-fy6il]

Thanks for all the information you are giving to us. I live in southern California where should I perches the TURBO POLLY SEAL?

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

I am glad I could be helpful. Good luck and I know you are going to be happy with the Turbo Poly Seal, It is an amazing product.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Sorry A N I at first did not understand or realized you asked a question. You can buy the Turbo Poly Seal and the Super Silicone Seal online only at bergstromm.com/ Take care

[@rvingmontanezway103]

Great video my friend thank for sharing

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Thanks Montanez, I was surprised myself at the outcome too. I am using the Super Silicone Seal a lot nowadays. I am preserving an EPDM Rubber roof from sure disaster by coating all the seams.

[@carlneufeld8263]

Can you apply the Super Silicone Seal 15 years later on top of the first application? Or would I have to remove the epdm rubber roof and apply a new one to put another solid coating of Super Silicone Seal on epdm rubber roofs?

[@balbirchera1629]

Really great idea

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@TheHomePros6221]

How is this a fair test when u added fleece to the poly seal and not flex seal? I’m a roofer and I hate flex seal it’s complete junk! But u should have added fleece to the flex seal also

[@user-nk7py8ld8o]

can this product be purchased in Canada? ( cant seem to find it) Txs

[@LordJesusChrist1968]

will this hold up on a roof like your container that your in

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

yes , in fact watch the video my wife made on the same container fixing a leak.kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3bPdZSkqKyMq7c

[@windmillbk]

what is the white stuff that looks like toilet paper?

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

That is the polyester Fabric that is included in the Turbo Poly Seal and Super Silicone Seal Kit

[@ginakerry2588]

Or do it the old fashioned way with TAR. 🤭

[@WickedGod-l7x]

Why didnt you use the reinforment tape on the flex seal. Fles seal is just as strong as the turbo and silicon sealer when used with the fleece fabric. The reason they demonstrated flex seal failure is because it cost 1/4 as much as the competitors, meaning you can do the same job for 3× the profit margin with flex seal. Ive come to dislike this man.

[@Chris_Porro_Land_o_Naps]

would be cool to see this test after it's been through a year of seasonal change. for me that's temps between 30 - 100 F. maybe put that on your roof and come back a year later and flex it.

[@twanny904]

Also gotta think that flex seal is $15 and turbo poly seal is $185 and you used fleece with your product.

[@giftfromgodpostcardministr6547]

Looks like all of these products work if you put the fleece with them

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Maybe so, but you can't buy it like that. I am testing as it is sold, dummy

[@ef3371]

@@FlatRoofDoctor Maybe yes! What a nonsense and rude answer to a legitimate question. Fleece tape is sold separately by Bergstromm and all hardware stores. Bergstromm products are way overpriced. What a pity your great advice is tainted by this fake test.

[@charlesnorris2993]

@@FlatRoofDoctor not to mention once the other's start leaking, the pressure is dropped. may not be alot but still. but a fair test IMO would to test liquid media them selve's alone, no fleece? just a thought.

[@clydelipp9612]

I just used the Turbo Poly Seal to repair, several patches on a 13,000 SF metal roof. Worked great and was tested a few days later with a large rain storm. No leaks, saved me tens of thousands of dollars, over a re-roof. I hope to get another 5-10 years, before doing a re-roof.

[@fengtaowang5348]

Interesting test results. I used Flex Seal with some woven fiberglass fabric to patch my leaking gutter 2 years ago, and it is still holding strong. I think it is time for Flex Seal to develop their own fleece/mesh fabric. It is standard practice to use fiberglass fabric to waterproof the shower with RedGuard, as it significantly improves the strength. I have not tried Turbo Poly Seal yet, but will definitely give it short for my next project. The only concern of Turbo Poly Seal is that it can not be used on EPDM rubber roof material.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Good comment Thanks

[@Survived4Real]

Using the “ The right tool for the specific job and or product to fix it” is paramount. I have not personally used the product, but I would have used the FLEX tape and done a full double wrap providing a tighter, stronger, 360 degree circumstance providing structural integrity from all sides. Thanks for taking the time and effort required to produce the actual video review. I’m not insinuating I am correct and you are aren’t....I am simply providing the alternative on the PVC pipe test. Overall, You’ve produced the BEST FLEX TAPE / SPRAY VIDEO REVIEW I HAVE COME ACROSS. Very professional and courteous in your presentation. Wm.

[@sashby77]

Flex seal is definitely a waste of money, used it once on RV, only lasted one season before it started to deteriorate.

[@efrainsantiago5225]

Enjoyed your videos, as a handy man for a medium sized business I'm learning a lot about the various sealants. Thank you for your time and effort on demonstrating the abilities of these sealants

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Glad to help

[@Rainor2020]

Test is biased - the turbo poly has reinforcement membrane added.

[@designertjp-utube]

Hahaha! We also know from his prior Videos that *Turbo* *Poly* + Fleece is his favorite _"go to"_ brand! Already wonderin' if we can get it at *Home* *Depot!*

[@Chameleon8474]

Repeat the test of flex seal liquid and spray but use fleece like you did with turbo poly seal

[@gann719]

I was wondering if you endorse the turbo seal product?

[@penguin99ify]

After watching the video, I went with Turbo Poly Seal to seal my leaking chimney. Applied easy and bonded well. Thanks for the advice.

[@lattep9613]

Me too.

[@J.Burrough]

The fleece was only used with the turbo poly- FYI

[@ninjaonline]

He penguin, how has it held up over the last 2 years? Do you still recommend it?

[@dentbodyford2170]

Why not put the mesh on the other two and see what happens? You reinforced the left two but not the others that's why it held.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

The experiment is according to how the product is sold. Duh. So I should go and make the product better by adding stuff that were not intended

[@mcsquid86]

Put the cheese cloth between the coats of flex liquid

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

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[@anivoc]

Probably somebody else mentioned in the comments but a fair comparison would be to use the fleece on all the liquid products...and no fleece on all the liquid products. Would the flex seal and spray flex seal have failed if they were reinforced with the fleece? I am guessing probably not as the fleece created a monolithic situation giving the two that did use fleece much more strength...The ones that didn't fail probably both would have failed without the fleece also.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

I show a comparison as the product is sold. Why should I add a fleece to Flex Seal Liquid if they never sell it with it or mention it in their products? The comparison is how the product is advertised and not how I can enhance it to make it work better.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

OMG when he did the bend test the flexseal spray was on the corner of the piece of metal making the stresses totally different than the other spots this is the most methodologically flawed video I've ever seen 😂

[@stevearttus8164]

You should try it again on a galvanized pipe. To see how well or how long these sealants can hold their bond to galvanized metal in a wet condition. Great tests, I like the flexibility test. A time lapse would be good for the water test too, through a variety of temperatures....pretty tall order, I know....😄😄👍

[@driverjamescopeland]

Liquid coatings (spray or brush) should be applied in two coats, with a substrate. Not doing so, isn't giving them the best opportunity for maximum performance.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Thanks James

[@kvsdude]

Why did you not use fleece for the liquid flex seal? That's not a fair tensile strength test without a tape/gauze supporting it.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

Yeah we know this is kinda bozo not scientific.

[@billytheweasel]

48 hours? ...there goes the millennial customer base. LOL. Great tests, excellent vid with decent inches of water column pressure!!! I wonder which one is more UV resistant? Time and cracking resistant?

[@jerry3956]

Is that your wife? You lucky 🐕. Make more videos with her. Great video thanks 👍 I guess the real determining test is what can withstand the test of time.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Hey Yes thats my wife. We got married several months ago. Watch this video of her and me pranking each other on a roof. it was nasty kzbin.info/www/bejne/baGQoGaAd7-DbtU

[@solarsynapse]

I would not use Flex Seal spray if it was given to me. Have you tried Through The Roof or its kin Lexel?

[@bugboy8462]

at 2.3 lb per foot around 23psi

[@jamespackeriii]

The first test was with negative water proofing not primary waterproofing and you should never rely on that to begin with….2nd test Try using the flex spray and liquid with the “fleece”as well to compare apples to apples. And for a true test do a long duration exposed to UV. I do understand you are testing how normal consumers will try to use these products (and hope they don’t try and use the spray for repair of sanitary pipes💩!” Please educate the people of primary and secondary waterproofing of the exterior of a structure And a temp fix.

[@solarsynapse]

Is the Super Silicone Seal like 100% silicone where nothing, not even more silicone, will stick to it? Is it a hybrid?

[@zdrokzdrok8170]

If you prioritize your wife's safety, your videos would be more appreciated. Wearing flip-flops and using ladders is a recipe for disaster.

[@dward7458]

Interesting tests but why use PVC pipe and metal as the substrate for the tests? Flat roofs aren't made of PVC and a metal roof wouldn't be patched this way.

[@marcusmazza2255]

What product would you recommend for people who can’t access turbo poly seal in Canada? Would you do the flex with a fleece? Appreciate the help in advance! Thanks 😁

[@glorialopez3044]

Flex leak is a waste of money ! Tried the can and also the spray , guess what it still leaks! Over $75.00 a waste of money !

[@jtmilliken]

Commercial HVAC guy here. We left a RTU curb we cut in on a TPO roof sealed with only gorilla tape and got a call 18 months later claiming our RTU was leaking condensate to the interior. Possible but very unlikely as those rooftop packages are designed to be extremely leakproof (and we normally insist on curbs being roofed in before setting a unit but sometimes $$$ and warranty cancelation is motivational😁). The water inside the business below was due to the roofing company not completing ANY of their work and the apetape finally falling. IMO 18 months of Colorado weather endurance is impressive for duct tape performing roof duty. P.S. Someone in this video has nice legs ant it ain't you

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

You are correct. I like what your reference to Gorilla Tape - "Apetape" That is funny. BTW, you have not seen my legs. I definitely don't have chicken legs.

[@patrickpeterman4890]

WOULD YOU RECOMMEND "SUPER SLICONE SEAL" FOR A FLAT METAL "R.V.ROOF?? DOES THIS PRODUCT PROVIDE U.V. PROTECTION; I LIKE YOUR STYLE AND DELIVERY; PATRICK.P

[@boaz2063]

It is not a fair test for fkex seal on the end has a corner that can leverage itself up as it can stress in two different directions and the other only one direction. The flex seal will be stressed along it side edge and front edge. Unfair to Flex Seal that could have been the plan maybe but this seem to be obvious 🤔.

[@vision1707]

Is this his product ?

[@kevinnguyenmientayusa9246]

I want to try it but I can not find in southern California , can you please help me where I can buy the Super Silicone Seal?

[@ebw_servant_of_GOD]

As long as you are using a secondary fibrous product (Fleece) in conjunction with Turbo Poly Seal and Super Silicone Seal coating those products will have a reinforcement advantage over any product in any test while other products are not of similarly reinforced. It would be like testing an off the production line Volkswagen Bug against an Lamborghini in a quarter mile race. I am sure Flex Seal was not meant to be sprayed at point blank range onto or into a surface hole, usually the manufacturer designates a distance, However, the use of fleece, with each of the product would have balanced experiment and determined if the wet product was sufficiently bonded to the surface and strong under equal conditions.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Yes the fabric is key. But the test was "as products are sold" and "advertised". Flex Seal never shows in their advertising to use fabric with their products.

[@bigboss1053]

I'd like to see how bergstrom did with out the fleece patch I bet gorilla would do the same with the fleece strip for a fraction of the cost

[@hosackies]

This is not an accurate test, once the first hole is breached, that becomes the weak point and the water will always egress from there thus relieving the water pressure to test the other holes.

[@ThinkSimply]

Black vs White roof in New England? We have like 50/50 cold/ hot climate

[@cliffords.8341]

I wonder if the Flex seal would have been better if you included a piece of fleece like the other two.

[@ericneering6357]

The stuff with the cloth in it is what we call Poormans, fiberglass, but only with silicone

[@ssg.morgan8858]

Yeah the other seals are gonna hold because there is no pressure if there is a leak so there will be no pushing against the other seals if one has given out

[@DQ-su6qf]

In Roofing we always 3 coarse cracks regardless of the instructions..

[@jonjohnson3865]

Flex Seal paste is the best. ESPECIALLY being applied during the rains. Your 3 STEP poly process works good, but not in the rains or wet surfaces. Try the Flex Seal Paste next time.

[@leonkaisowatum8436]

Should of reinforce flex products like you did with silicone and urethane. Then did test

[@divinee.155]

There is no glue better than gorilla glue. I hung kitchen cabinets with that glue - loaded with dishes and food and never collapsed. I would trust anything gorilla

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

We are not hanging kitchen cabinets here. This is showing products that will work on roofs where the sun will break anything down. Gorilla Glue is almost pure Urethane, that will not last 1 week on a metal roof in the Florida Sun Maybe show us how you seal a metal roof seam with Gorilla Glue. You might be unto something. Thanks anyway for your 2 pennies.

[@FEDGEZZ]

So how many trips have you had to the ER while DIY with tools? That opening a can with some gigantic scissors.. WTF man! Nothing as safe as working in flip flops though. I would suggest the safety of crocs ... at least your skin would have some barrier of protection.

[@Eskippy714]

He obviously has enough experience. I'm a women and use heavy machinery meanwhile hubby boo cuts himself with a kitchen knife. We just gotta know how to use our tools

[@amosajo7250]

Thank you very much for this video. I think Turbo Seal and Super Silicon Seal are better. The roof is exposed to all kinds of weather conditions - causing it to sometimes, contracts and sometimes expands. Your test suggests that the Turbo Seal and Super Silicon Seal can withstand all the conditions.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Great point!

[@brucebeamon5460]

WOW LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN I have FOUR cans of that flex steel spray , had used it b4 on nail holes on metal portion of my roof NOT ANY MORE ... My GO TO will be TURBO POLY SEAL and looks as though it comes in small cans too

[@marsflee3815]

I wouldn't put spray on a hole that big. The spray might work on smaller holes.

[@psfgtech]

How is flex seal on floors, based on seeing no videos, im guessing it's junk

[@FreeDom-dh5mf]

I don't think he read the label on how to properly apply the Flex Seal spray.

[@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST]

Seriously 🤦‍♂️

[@justanotherguy469]

You have to plug the hole of the spray, else the pressure on all the other holes is reduced.

[@JeremyTaylor-y3k]

Love you man pf God so honest snd humble and truly helpful

[@coloringanddoodling9751]

The Flex Seal might hold just as well if used with the fleece.

[@lunacallie6858]

I don’t have 6 yrs can u just tell me the results?😎😎😎😎😎😎

[@jessecampos7290]

Nothing better than good ol fashion roofing mastic. Can’t get better than that.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

Hmm

[@artmatthew1]

How about Sillco 'through the roof' sealant? Do you think it is a good option for using with fleece for 1/8" holes in a thin metal roof?

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

yes that will work

[@lorenheard2561]

The bending demonstrates in a speeded up way when metal gets hot or cold how it would effect the seal. I guess tensile strength? So one wants something sturdy,ability to handle extreme weather challenge also expansion and shrinkage on products' versatile "going with the changes" Science: Roofing 101 Lab class!! Thank you both!

[@jamesh4966]

You can see a hole in the spray when you were finished spraying.

[@bugboy8462]

you should have used a fiber tape under as well to be a fair test

[@lanceanderson5826]

Is your last name, Bergstromm, by chance? :)

[@RoofingFacts]

Good call. surprised how few caught on they are one and the same.

[@realpatriot5896]

You should use the flex seal tape then use two to 3 coats of the spray or liquid over the tape for a fair comparison

[@joshuaatkins5197]

Nice view. Appreciate you taking the time thank you

[@dukeman7595]

All gorilla products do not work, total junk.

[@laredokarl]

I’ve got a 1” round hole through my green standing seam roof where a pipe went through. Do I put the TPS down around the edge and then the fleece over the hole. Then cover with a layer of TPS?

[@surefiremushroomsmicrogreens]

3x3 inch square piece of zip tape shits the most sticky on roof applications funny thing they make a sheething that last 30 years uncovered just tape the seams I’ve been recommending it for years. It’s called Zip System tape it’s worth it’s weight in gold 😉🇺🇸❤️

[@tompipps3383]

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[@Redandranger]

Did you just open a can with a pair of scissors?

[@gregsbrown85]

You have made me a believer of turbo poly seal. Can it be used on a TPO patch?

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

It works great on TPO. It does not work on EPDM. I have another product that I have tested for over 2 years now that I use on EPDM called Super Silicone Seal. I have started to make videos on that too.

[@joshuaatkins5197]

You will find with spray on products it is so thin in the can in order to make it through the orifice that multiple coats are required. Put one coat of Flex Seal on a sheet of glass and shine a light through it. You will be able to see the micro holes in the product which then requires multiple coats. I'm a painter and use many coatings. Any product in a aerosol can has massive amounts of 'thinners' in it to allow it to spray. Half of what comes in a spray can evaporates into the atmosphere, so you're paying for something that you're not keeping. A brush or roll coating leaves a thicker amount of dry mils as a result.

[@beachbum6781]

I can't thank you enough! Mow I just have to find where leak is, metal roof or wall!

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

I am glad you got the help you needed.

[@billytheweasel]

Water... a gift and a curse.

[@cheerry777]

I would say eliminate the Flex tape from this test. Of course Flex Tape isn't going break, just as with any old duct tape. Just as I thought, Flex products are over priced and not as worthy as the classic silicone.

[@brucebeamon5460]

🤔 Now as I investigate further the ONLY REVIEWS I see for this product is ( THIS Gentleman ) hum ....Now I’m starting to second guess is there cheaper alternative ? $ 88 for a 1/2 gallon pretty pricey 😒 may still consider this product or another silicon product

[@willf5768]

Great video and credit must be given to the pretty young lady who had to scale that ladder 😁👍👍👍👍👍

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

She is cute, I agree, that is why I married her

[@joemarhernandez8661]

Hi! Would you know if turbo poly seal and super silicone seal are available in the Philippines? If not, do they ship overseas?

[@boaz2063]

This test was testing two event 1. How well a product seal and insulate water. 2. You were test a product's ability to hold things together without separating. I have never heard flex seal claim to hold things together under tension. Either you put a fabric strip in the flex seal or leave out the fabric straps from the other two to get a real test. You should do this again or just Apologize to flex seal for the unfair test.

[@phonemd1]

Hi I love your videos..........I cannot find where to buy the turby poly seal. I have a 10 thousand sq foot roof to recoat and the seal is for the protusions.....where can I buy it? also is it good for the vent seems?.....thanks

[@WickedGod-l7x]

Flex seal failed because he did not use any reinforcment material as he did with turbo and supper silicon.

[@IggyDalrymple]

I'm thinking that fiberglass (with 2 coatings with glass-matt between the 3 coatings) might be good for shipping container roof if the surface is first cleaned thoroughly.

[@MsTampara]

looks like gorilla tape or flex tape first, then flex spray. The white application worked best but needed to be sanded down. Those tape worked magic considering hothing much was done but a bandaid lol

[@happygilmore7118]

Can you put the poly seal over the gorilla tape

[@tomboderick5043]

This isn't available in my country. What kind of alternatives should I look for that perform like turbo?

[@metaleater9]

I think you should have tested the flex seal products with the fleece/fabric as that clearly played a huge factor.

[@FlatRoofDoctor]

You don't get it! I show the test as it is sold. Flex Seal is not sold with fleece but Turbo Poly Seal comes with it. Wake up and get some brains

[@islandboy2424]

Good video. I tried flex spray on leaking gutter seams on vinyl gutters...couldn't even stop a simply drip drip drip. Wish I had seen your video 1st.

[@pietervogel9426]

How about a heat test? Great videos!