Commodore 128 Complete Restoration and Board Repair.

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In this episode I take a look at a Commodore 128 that I bought on craigslist in terrible shape. Then I completely restore it into like-new condition.

[@LGR]

8-bit Guy _and_ Techmoan videos within one day? Freaking KZbin Christmas over here.

[@The8BitGuy]

You're too kind.. I haven't even checked my subscriptions yet.. I guess if techmoan has a new one I'd better go watch it!

[@ILLuZzionZz4937]

The 8-Bit Guy i love when you do restorations please do more when possible P.S. love all of your content.

[@cleetus1715]

3 hours ago ? Is this some kind of patreon benefit ? Also haven't seen a new vid from techmoan

[@The8BitGuy]

Yes.. I released on Patreon early today because I wasn't finished with the thumbnail art.

[@user-po6hn9id1t]

+The 8-Bit Guy I'm thinking a restomod about this Commodore...

[@allseriousness]

I am not a computer guy. I am not in IT, nor will I ever be. But I watch the SHIT out of these videos on this channel.

[@maricate]

João você é Brasileiro ou Português?

[@eIucidate]

James Cockerham I'm like that on another channel as well: Bigclivedotcom. It's all about electronics

[@FlintFandango]

Same here! I just love the 8-Bit Guy! :)

[@markmallone7484]

+elucidate I like watching his videos too! i like his drawings of circuits even though i have no idea how they work.

[@drakethorn1339]

James Cockerham every fuckin day lol I love his videos

[@naota3k]

13:01 it's so satisfying to watch someone who knows exactly what they're doing figure things out. Ray's got the right tools and the right brains.

[@chrizzz1979]

Just what I was thinking.

[@anderstermansen130]

my name isnt Ray

[@richiie8024]

"This is the worst condition computer I have ever seen!" me: *remembers vic-20 video* are you sure?

[@taylorwoolston8856]

*remembers VIC-20 video came out 2 years later*

[@richiie8024]

Taylor Woolston "this was the moment when he knew.. he f***ed up

[@welme23]

@@majorpropane Deja Vu

[@fardnia9434]

rixchy_ you asinine fruitcake. this video is 2 years older than the vic 20 video

[@richiie8024]

mambo I am going to lose my marbles- You copied Taylor's comment. >:C

[@DonSolaris]

*David, regarding the retro bright and yellowing again:* the reason why plastic gets yellowed again after you retro bright it, is because of its contact with air (it's ongoing chemical reaction). So with bromine molecules temporary removed (after retro bright), new ones will get on their place, and there you have yellowing again. In order to prevent that you have to apply a small layer of transparent (matte) spray paint so that there is no direct contact between the air and plastic. That way no bromine can get into existing holes. Please give it a shot!

[@joestacos2]

I liked this so David can see

[@t1993ct2006c]

+joestacos2 Same.

[@TheMamaluigi300]

+t1993ct2006c same

[@janneanttila2001]

inportant information.

[@ChoboUnjeon]

Don Solaris AHH

[@antonydandrea]

That debugging of the main board was amazing!

[@batlin]

That Raymond chap is a bit special alright... very impressive!

[@Bareego]

tell Raymond to do a youtube channel please, he was amazing !

[@gamerguy425]

felt like I was watching NASA engineers or some sci-fi movie

[@fwepbwep5752]

batlin ㅇㅅㅇ

[@gnoink]

If you like this kind of stuff, I recommend that you check out the channel RetroGameModz.

[@echinox2460]

Dirty Commodore 128: I am so messy... Oil-covered and dirty VIC-20: Hold my technological whiskey.

[@LimburgerVinny]

That Raymond dude actually made me say "What The Fuck" out loud when he was working on that board. It's so awesome and rare at the same time to see someone that skilled working on a delicate piece of hardware. Loved this video!!

[@theanalogkid7]

You should encourage your buddy Raymond to start a youtube channel! Watching and learning how he does that stuff would be awesome.

[@M16A3ACOG]

I am not sure Raymond would like everyone to know all the stuff he learned throughout many, many years.

[@memyselfandi6422]

I would imagine that Raymond has a life outside of his day job, so he would have no need to open a youtube channel.

[@ibischicken7274]

Aeyesi o,o *with, I belive

[@ibischicken7274]

*Believe

[@Skauber]

Actually, sharing this type of knowledge would be imperative to keep these old computers and other vintage devices workling. Usually, people who possess this type of knowledge is more than willing to teach it to someone who's willing to listen and learn with a genuine interest. That being said, not everyone would enjoy being on camera in front of a crowd.

[@VAX1970]

@10:05 "Chewing gum?" .. That's 'blu tack' :)

[@morallybankrupt7132]

5:35, yes I also always go back to alcohol when nothing else is working.

[@morallybankrupt7132]

@James Miller exactly haha, bon apetit!

[@joychapman9228]

;n;

[@jamesfield1674]

ha ha loved that bit XD

[@davidpoole468]

Alcohol: more than just a breakfast drink

[@BarryLeeReynolds]

Hahahahaha

[@Kasey1776]

Your channel is one of the best channels in the world. Restorations for old yellowed computers is just awesome

[@t3mpYT]

@@Kasey1776 who r u talking to?

[@Kasey1776]

A (supposedly) deleted account before it was deleted.

[@ardenpips]

I know! I’ve been watching him for almost four years!

[@InternalMind]

@@t3mpYT Who did you think he was talking to

[@MCKoolperson9]

You should get a keycap puller. They are like $1 on ebay

[@seppip]

This! Please get a key puller!

[@Arcadecomponentscom]

I have a spare one I'll give him the next time he comes to my shop. :) I picked them up in Akihabara about 1 1/2 years ago.

[@DamienH]

Ogoun You can even make your own wire puller out of paperclips.

[@io4439]

He's got one now :)

[@klm1784]

This image will be burned into my head forever: 8:40 A middle aged man on all fours massaging his computer parts with white cream.

[@user-nk8be7zi1h]

This deserves to be pinned.

[@anonymousidea9119]

intensity intensifies

[@Brastius]

I see that every day. I mean.. uh... Yeah! In my head! Grrrr!

[@lzd4228]

KLM I had a little "how did I get here" moment during that segment lol

[@MarshallMathersthe7th]

Lol.

[@GilesArt]

"I always come back with alcohol, and do some serious scrubbing". Oh 8-Bit Guy, you so crazeh.

[@leonardodilena680]

It would be better never to rub alcohol on that kind of plastic, because even one step consumes it. I think is much better to use mineral spirit.

[@garychap8384]

@@leonardodilena680 I agree... I'd always favour _"works slower"_ over _"works better"_ any day, especially when it comes to plastics. Just take your time... even if it takes five applications, it's worth it.

[@the8-bitbaby967]

"Yoda is always better.... so I'm going to see Yoda, although his name is actually Raymond" One of my favourite lines in the whole series.

[@incubus5000]

dude this yoda guy needs his own channel!

right you are :D

[@absoluteCatastrophy]

i agree

[@gabakusa]

he is like Lois Rossman

[@Bekon241]

Yes 100% agree :)

[@godbluffvdgg]

He looks like he "doesn't play well with others"... He probably lacks the patience to deal with the youtube community...

[@weldin]

Could you imagine The Empire Strikes Back with everything the same, but Yoda's name is Raymond?

[@WafflezGaming]

Cinestar Productions What the fuck?

[@weldin]

Did you watch the video? The part with him in the car?

[@TheSwiftFalcon]

Seeing how George Lucas has kept changing his movies, that may become reality one day.

[@mongomoonbladder8023]

Cinestar Productions In the multiverse, all things are possible. Three universes to the left, his name is Jennifer.

[@sasori9624]

+Wafflez Gaming It's a new meme. And a really weird one. some examples: "Bee movie and everything the same except every time they say Bee the whole movie repeats." Or "Star wars return of the jedi bur every time they say Palpatine we hear I am the senate." Or "Shrek 1 but every time they blink it gets faster and the audio gets distorted." See? It's a really weird trend I know it.

[@zaneh6224]

Gawd this brings back memories, I used to be a service Tech for Commodore in the day, the MOS branded chips were notorious for blowing up, the cause 95% of the time was the crap power supply with the C128, standard procedure was to socket any chips that were replaced because we knew it would be back in the service centre, the C128 was the worst power supply, the 128D were fine

[@ChairmanMeow1]

You're like a caretaker - saving old computing history. This is really important to me and Im glad there's people like you out there saving these machines.

[@johnmaxfield4668]

Your mate Raymond is a legend. Big smile on my face watching him work. I used to have a Commodore 128 back in the day.

[@notLL5]

John Maxfield and your profile picture I the thing I love most

[@DetroitBORG]

Love these restoration videos! I would love to see a restoration series for some "modern" Apple products like restoring the glossy plastic finish on the original iPods (or white plastic G5 and Intel iMacs). Is there anyway to restore anodized aluminum or restore the polished stainless steel backs on iPods? All topics I would love to see covered. Keep up the awesome work!

[@DrToiletfaceGames]

DetroitBORG!

[@ThatsPety]

DetroitBORG it's just KZbinr Christmas over here!

[@ThatEpicMacDude]

DetroitBORG I'd like to see the process of removing scratches from white products like the iPod 5g or the eMac.

[@sethl.2957]

Ayy!

[@AcrOfSpades]

I was wondering why you started buying old Apple products! Good to see you over here Mike!

[@BrandNewByxor]

I've been binge watching your restoration/refurbishing videos all day and I'm having a lot of fun. Thank you for putting so much time and care into this sort of thing, it's truly spectacular to watch. It's highly motivating me to clean up some of the old hardware I have lying around.

[@tattoos1988]

I’m now a new subscriber I love these old gaming systems and how the electrical systems worked and how they are repaired properly thanks for taking the time to do this all the best god bless

[@oldguy9051]

More Raymond in the future! And have him speak like Yoda: "Before switching on testing you must!"

[@YourCRTube]

Yeah, let's all just continue to pretend his name is Raymond and not Gabe.

[@beefyisrare3423]

the side by side is so good

[@the3nder1]

beefyisrare I think it's fancy cutting. They look too good!

[@funnypranker34]

beefyisrare you are carrying the gas kings logo I noticed

[@DMack6464]

Impersonator... gtfo

[@djmoch1001]

That was a pretty amazing restoration. :) I've never really had much experience with the Commodore 128 (though I recall a friend having one, but I never had much exposure to it). I had my own VIC-20 when I was a kid, as well as used C64s in elementary school. These videos are a terrific flashback to the past. :)

[@pedrosousa7254]

This was really nostalgic for me, and I cannot quantify how much this brings back my childhood. I've started out to play with Commodore Amiga and Spectrum 48k when I was around 8 years old, and in an era where this kind of technology was still at birth, these things had a much bigger delight to them. Nowadays, babies born with a table in their hands. I also have to standout the work Raymond does, and the hell of a great technician he is. Not many like him around for sure. Thank you for the video.

[@ka8syv203]

The Force is strong with Raymond.

[@TDPEquinox]

The background music is a welcome addition!

[@AllboroLCD]

This was the machine that first introduced me to computing! My brother had one growing up and i would watch him play games he would get from his buddy who had BBS access. I got to play sometimes, then my 7 year old self learned how to load the games from the bootleg floppies when he wasnt home : ) We sold the C128, complete with the Commodore monitor 2 drives and a commodore printer along with a boxed copy of print shop back in 1993, to make room for the new Compaq Prolinea 4\25s we got. That I still have thankfully!

[@briand6343]

So satisfying when he changed the rubber feet...

[@AdamJessopmazdamjmx5]

I would absolutely love it if Raymond had a channel. I really would like to see more of his advanced restoration videos.

[@peter-william]

Adam Jessop he does!

[@peter-william]

Adam Jessop his is arcadecomponents.com

[@AdamJessopmazdamjmx5]

Peter Ralph that took me to his website but I don't see any videos.

[@mouadl.9271]

Adam Jessop it's the name of the channel

[@clintonc108]

That's my Uncle Raymond!! So cool!

[@machinedgod]

Your uncle needs a youtube channel!

[@trashcan4798]

If you’re telling the truth, tell him to start a channel

[@donut5818]

Trash Can+ he already did, it is called arcadecomponents.com

[@Rayze64]

aww thx dude

[@CJBurkey]

You also claim that David is your dad. Are they siblings then?

[@nicksober4763]

You are such a caring guy for old things

[@antonelrotaru20]

Excellent work. And I started in the past from a Spectrum Z80. The passion was so great that 18 years have passed since I graduated the Faculty of Automation and Computers.

[@EVRLYNMedia]

how does someone MANAGE to get a computer that dirty! he must have spilled a gallon of coke on it a bunch of syrup and left it in the sun for a year

[@EVRLYNMedia]

hmm. make me wonder

[@EVRLYNMedia]

DOO DOO DO DO DO DOOOOOOO

[@JMcMillen]

I'm going to guess it was the owners kids that used it most.

[@KmSiDevastate]

CalculatinGenius I'll bet the person is a hoarder.

[@The8BitGuy]

I ask myself the same question. I would almost have to TRY to get it that disgusting.

[@JamesBenet]

Excellent restoration, many would have given up a 1/4 of the way in. Raymond's skills at debugging hardware are amazing!

[@JamieBainbridge]

What a guy. Pretty sure when Yoda gets stuck, even he calls Raymond. 12/10!

[@Tullkas12]

I hardly ever comment or click "like" on youtube, but this one is really amazing. The level of enthusiasm that you guys have for reviving these grandpa computers is just crazy.

[@boostcr3p]

I need more Raymond in my life. The guy should teach so much knowledge :O

[@Arcadecomponentscom]

I actually run "repair parties" once or twice a year at my shop for locals in the arcade and retro computer scenes. It's a small, semi-private repair and new folks have to be vouched for by people I know who have been to my shop before. I usually man the grill during the day long event and one local brought a frozen margarita machine ones. That was a fun day! :D

[@miikasuominen3845]

Watching somebody bring back to life, the technology which needs to be preserved is always nice. The machine looks fantastic. Kudos to you... And Yoda too ;)

[@mahditalib4485]

Neat Process, I learn from you new stuff almost in every video I watch from your channel.

[@fhhfgj]

Great video, really nice to see you bring these pieces of history back to life. I think the computers appreciate your saving them!

[@Willam_J]

It's a pleasure to watch you restore equipment with such passion and attention to detail. I restore a lot of antique test equipment. Appearance is just as important as performance when doing a proper restoration. Your tech is also first-rate. His advice about the IC sockets is spot on. He's no hack, for sure. Thumbs up!

[@Arcadecomponentscom]

Woohoo!!! I made it into an 8-Bit Guy video. :D

[@gregdoh]

I came here to watch how you re-whiten yellowing plastic, but ended up watching the entire video as it was fascinating. You are an amazing host and now I'm going to start watching your other videos!

[@OriginalSebie]

So much love in this video.. I wish I could these beatiful restorations. David, your videos are absolutely brilliant !

[@LordThanathos]

I love restoration videos with all my heart. Also, Raymond is a magician, and I want to be like him.

[@mr.nobody6829]

You've gone great length to rescue this commodore 128, thanks to you another one comes back to life. I really worried you might get the good one ruined pluging back and forth.Use a key puller will make the process of removing keys easier and safer. WOW, those professional tools are really amazing, desoldering could be so easy...I think I might need to get a tool like that one.

[@axiomist1076]

Beautiful! Theres a high level of aesthetics to getting an old beat up machine and getting it in as new shape again. You did a great job. And it only cost $30 !!!!!!! I loved every second of this vid.

[@Agnus78]

Amazing work. Watching this dirty metal plastic junk transforming into clean, working microcomputer - very satisfying! You do a great job restoring these machines and save them from an abyss.

[@atraxr603]

I really liked this one. Especially the board fixing part, that was really fun.

[@samthemultimediaman]

You got a really good deal on that 128. I've been looking all over for a cheap broken 128 for awhile now.

[@charlesm4175]

Great job! Love all these old computer restoration projects being uploaded to KZbin. I was able to fix two old computers about 20 years ago. I wish I had recorded my experience.

[@ryankepper]

It was blu tak in the keys

[@smartperson1]

Quick note: you can't spell RAYMOND without YODA.

[@MarkTheMorose]

Really enjoyed this. I bet Raymond/Yoda is going to get quite busy as a result of the video. He's welcome back any time!

[@alm5992]

Love these restoration videos! Makes me want to clean up mine. Also, great tip on replacing the heat sink paste!

[@Rabbit-HoleGarage]

I love watching your computer restoration videos. They're my favorite videos from you. I love old computers, even though I am only 16. I find it fascinating to see what computers were like before I was born. I wish I could do stuff like this, I just don't have the space in my room and I don't have the money either. Keep doing what you're doing, because I like it and many other people do too!

[@albac0re]

This video was excellent! I loved the 'change of scenery' through the drive to the repair guy. Also, seeing him work was a treat. It's always nice to see a professional doing what they do best. I wish he had a channel too!

[@Arcadecomponentscom]

Thanks! I do, but I don't have many videos on it yet. The change in roles at the day job has me terribly slammed.

[@albac0re]

checking it out now. Thanks :)

[@ClearBrookExotics]

LOVE restoration vids. This did not disappoint.

[@svennelsonmjmusic]

Wow this is amazing. Everything about your work

[@kaitojinn]

Your channel make me feel that retro things are AWESOME! Thank you ♥️

[@asvarien]

Does Raymond have a youtube channel? I'd love to see more of the indepth electronics repairs like in this video. If he doesn't are there any other channels with similar content?

[@mikemarino5762]

Adrian’s Digital Basement is all I can think of.

[@vhfgamer]

Mr. Carlson's Lab, The Radio Shop, Shango066, EEVblog.... all electronics guys. Maybe not specifically computer repair, but you'll learn all the in depth electronics repair you could ever want.

[@kanjitard]

C128 owners were like: "Yeah, my computer is basically a C64, but my parents have more money than your parents".

[@badmeme486]

Nobody: C128 owners: oh your C64 doesn't have 80 COLUMNS? i pity you.

[@JT_1]

@@badmeme486 I still have a C64 in it's box

[@badmeme486]

@@JT_1 cool, mine doesn't have the original box

[@TheMamaluigi300]

kanjitard And GEOS is slightly better

[@veli-pekkakultanen2353]

Or maybe I just wanted to learn CP/M.

[@hatednyc]

Really does such Fantastic work and I love that he shows his methods all the way through. Great stuff

[@Xaltar_]

Awesome video David, I have always loved these old machines. Growing up we had Commodore 64s and ZX Spectrums both, they practically defined my early childhood. I remember spending hours with my dad copying code from magazines and manuals so we could play games. That feeling when you run your code and the game works is really something special. Then the feeling when the power goes out and you have not saved it to a cassette or disk hehe. We also spent an inordinate amount of time tinkering with the hardware, adding RAM, disk drive conversions and the like. Great fun and it really made you feel invested in your system. Today it's all so generic and standardized.

[@throttlebottle5906]

full NERD level was engaged here :)) nice to see some folks clinging to and keeping our old school nerd-stalgia alive

[@JerryKillian]

Loved the video. Commodore was my first love in computers. SX-64 was my favorite. Being an electronic technician, much like your friend Raymond. I installed a second disk drive and a reset switch into mine, which was absolutely fantabulous. Took it to Puerto Rico on a deployment and practiced my machine language. Favorite game was Silent Service. If you take the time to email me, I have a Commodore Diagnostician chart that I've held onto for many years, and would be happy to share with you.

[@cullenwhatule2210]

how does one contact you to get copy of this chart?

[@JerryKillian]

@@cullenwhatule2210 jerrdale is at google mail, the dot com thingy...

[@rodeobravo3976]

I'm amazing at the restoration, especially the retro bright. Awesome job!

[@smilingkevin]

It is always amazing to watch someone do something they're really, really good at.

[@mrlplop3145]

Yep!

[@joedetode]

"I'm going to see Yoda, although his name is actually Raymond."

[@Pizzamanrule]

Why is it so satisfying to watch

[@neto9217]

I cant believe how satisfying this is to watch, I have tons of yellow-plastic things and now I know how to fix them.

[@Zefrem23]

Great video. Those soldering stations are miraculous, and priced to match!

[@richardwilliams877]

10:15 - 8-bit Guy, that's Blu-Tack, isn't it? Is it not as common in America? Pretty sure it's not gum. It kinda goes like that when it's old and dry and generally about 50% of houses in the UK are in fact held together with Blu-Tack (the other half are generally duct tape :P) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Tack

[@willdavid3075]

Richard Williams 100% agree with you. English houses - like mine. Are very shoddy

[@YAUUN]

I'd say it's more like 50% Polyfilla, 10% Duck Tape, 10% expanding Stryofoam foam, 10% old bits of wire, 10% silicone sealant, 10% Blu-Tack

[@CraftedEngineer]

YAUUN the amount of things I've "permanently" mounted to the wall the pollyfilla'd the wall I don't think I have any plasterboard left haha

[@simonro9168]

If it is what I think Blu-track is (too lazy to google) then it's called Mighty Putty in the US

[@1Thunderfire]

Nothing beats the holy combination of Duct Tape and WD-40 though.

[@TheVeganBear]

Chewing gum? nah it looked more like Blu tack.

[@-DeScruff]

Thought the same thing. its just about the right color. Though I guess Blu Tack does look a bit like old gum.

[@StevenSmyth]

I use a lot of mounting putty and that's what it looked like to me.

[@beatchef]

It's definitely blu tack

[@v0idspamz636]

To be honest, i forgot about this channel for a good year but im glad youtube recommended me it again. Its cool to learn about the restoration stuff even if you wont use much of the information later on

[@Idothinkysaurus]

I love this channel, because you get to learn things about older technology. It's so cool to learn about all of the old tech.

[@dankcum]

always love eating to 8-Bit Guy vids :)

[@prozakable]

You are such a nice guy man!

[@0PageAccess]

Raymond seems like a genius with the way he talks and all those fancy tools :D Good job as always!

[@truenorth365]

Great job on the C128, and that Giana Sisters-game music...remembered that I drove my sister crazy by not starting the game because I loved listened to that Chris Huelsbeck intro music for hours. Weird I know but thats 8-bit music for ya! Just recently discovered your channel and I love it, subscribed and a big thumbs up from Sweden!

[@Ashamaxa]

Raymond is one smart and crafty guy :D

[@paulartola9536]

Great job, David. I'm guessing Raymond is in Yoda's speed dial list!

[@uli8327]

I always love seeing used and abused tech being restored to former glory, and your videos are just heaven to me :D

[@spacekitt.n]

"...a lot of people give up at this stage , but this is really just the beginning for me..." basically sums up your entire channel :) cheers to your dedication my dude, your vids are really entertaining !!!!

[@rumeru905]

6:57 key flies off the screen lmao

[@steverman2312]

Now when i see that all i can hear is the yeet sound effect

[@Sharklops]

I can't imagine selling something in that kind of nasty condition. I'd just be too embarrassed

[@fidelrivera2887]

Couple of Computer Wizards at work! Great job on the restoration... always enjoy these.

[@Michaelebills]

Hello David, I have been Retrobriting for awhile... wanted to tell you that I use a Wagner handheld paint gun to spray on the Retrobrite gel, it gives an even coat. I also use a clear wide flat storage container with locking tabs and seal... I got it from Walmart for around $10... It is much better than plastic wrap... allowing max sun light and keeps evaporation low...

[@PhoenixWrong_]

The Great Giana Sisters was an incredibly trippy game.

[@cliz305]

I actually played it on nds.

[@LivingWithTheGuzmans]

Nice restoration

[@wpl955g9]

Nice work. Reminds me of the time my kid brother and I found a Vic 20 in my neighbour's yard. It'd survived a Canadian winter and the spring thaw. We didn't hold out much hope, but after leaving it to dry out, we hooked it up to our old C64 power supply and damned if it didn't work. We never did get two of the F keys working perfectly, but you can't have everything.

[@frickinfrick8488]

Why do I love watching this guy restore old computers so much? I don't even know anything about computers but this is one of my favourite channels. You go 8 bit guy

[@SteveRieck-Music]

I'm going to see Yoda… Although his name is actually Raymond.

[@spartan456]

Wow, wasn't expecting to see someone take a logic probe to that. Out of curiosity does Raymond have his own KZbin channel? I repair electronics for a living and I've always been interested in the intricacies of diagnosing old computer hardware, but not a lot of folks out there have good videos covering that stuff.

[@rich1051414]

The rabbit hole is deep and negatively affects one's social skills :)

[@PseudoWounds]

arcadecomponents.com

[@evils0n22]

Raymond is a magician!! He got my PlayChoice 10 board up and running for me a few years ago!

[@ianmccown2934]

David, I'm 21 and trying to learn more about computers, and I just wanted to say that your the coolest dude and definitely the best there is with this in my world