Competition testing Defensive BJJ system (7 matches, 7 wins by submission, no points conceded)

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Defensive BJJ

Defensive BJJ

Күн бұрын

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@jimster805
@jimster805 3 жыл бұрын
i can't wait for double turtle pull
@juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243
@juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243 3 жыл бұрын
I am legitimately curious as to what priit would say about this. PRIIT if you’re out there reading these comments, please enlighten us 😂
@bryceolsen3527
@bryceolsen3527 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've seen this before in pokemon...
@xaina1
@xaina1 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mdscc
@mdscc 3 жыл бұрын
Hah
@badgoat666
@badgoat666 2 жыл бұрын
It's a me Mario! Boing, boing.
@danieldelanoche2015
@danieldelanoche2015 3 жыл бұрын
"How to annoy an entire tournament" lol it was a lot of fun to watch!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
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@vartanbjj3192
@vartanbjj3192 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@Monkstameth
@Monkstameth 3 жыл бұрын
Coach: "make some points also." Makes some points. Coach: "2 minutes left. (Finnish him.)" Finnishes match.
@calebthroop6399
@calebthroop6399 3 жыл бұрын
This was entertaining. You could see the “God damn your so annoying” all over their faces.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
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@guam58
@guam58 3 жыл бұрын
Turtle position is one of the most useful and underrated defensive positions in jiu-jitsu. I know many argue that it is stalling, but he was proving several points. One point it is a useful defense. Second point it was frustrating opponents. Third when you get frustrated you make mistakes. Fourth it is a very powerful leg attack technique. Great content and thank you for sharing.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
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@thomasmosby9150
@thomasmosby9150 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem with this that I see is if you weren't in a competition, you could get kicked in the head. Orange if you are in a comp you could just stand up
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmosby9150 But we are in the competition and not somewhere else ...why bring that argument in?
@thomasmosby9150
@thomasmosby9150 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ I'm just thinking in a broader aspect. I'm guessing you would approach differently in a mma or self defense situation. The defense from turtle is actually really cool to see, and I like the entries into leg attacks
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmosby9150 Of course the approach would be different if we decided to test it in those places 🙂 ...happy you like it and I appreciate you understand the context!
@backwardwalker
@backwardwalker 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this over and over. It shows how extremely difficult it is to use any technique against correct Defensive postures. It shows how 90% of our usual thinking about taking the seatbelt, about guillotines, about getting the hooks, about turning away, about passing the guard to side control is simply false. The most interesting video I have seen in years. And this is just defense. I am eager to see the same thing but with reversals and escapes.
@MikeMace-c7l
@MikeMace-c7l 3 жыл бұрын
A kick in the head. Very efficiente against this "defense"
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily that is not allowed in our sport, so it's not really anything to worry about :)
@Leonardfilming
@Leonardfilming 3 жыл бұрын
No one had an answer to his game plan. Most of them were confused what was going on.
@rawesome1000
@rawesome1000 3 жыл бұрын
opponent could have stood up and looked at the ref for a stalling call?
@E.J.Crunkleton
@E.J.Crunkleton 3 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty common when you introduce a new strategy nobody has seen. It won't take long for someone to develop a counter.
@Monkstameth
@Monkstameth 3 жыл бұрын
Rules are rules. They are sometimes in the way of a sport. "Question authority" -Priit
@Monkstameth
@Monkstameth 3 жыл бұрын
@@E.J.Crunkleton this is how Priit teaches attacks. The first to know how to counter this defence are his students.
@ongobongo8333
@ongobongo8333 3 жыл бұрын
that's because he's far more experienced than his opponent. this isn't a real strategy. it's just stalling
@tapskill3
@tapskill3 3 жыл бұрын
His using the Prit Turtle, Panda, Running Man, and please notice, he never gives up under hooks. Professor Prit would be very proud to see his turtle system working . Outstanding! Coach Al
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
I am actually the one who is filming it all :)
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
Priit was the one filming and coaching
@Blacktorch27
@Blacktorch27 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite grappling styles and strategies are those that can apply to a striking situation as well, but I love the point(s) you're proving here. Keep it up man 👌
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Well look at the Robby Lawler vs Colby Covington first round and you can see what is possible 😎
@Blacktorch27
@Blacktorch27 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ just watched it, and its impressive but I think the difference is you can't strike the back of the head in MMA. I hate to be the "IN THE STREETS THAT WOULDNT WORK" guy, but I think that argument is valid here.
@Blacktorch27
@Blacktorch27 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ for grappling or mma contexts though, this is a pretty damn fool proof system.
@Deadward1113
@Deadward1113 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blacktorch27 I agree 100%. Regardless.. sick 🐢 game
@jake3922
@jake3922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blacktorch27 fool proof against non-wrestlers.
@leelastname7628
@leelastname7628 3 жыл бұрын
They’re all kind of confused by what your doing. None of them really had a systematic approach to trying to separate your arm from your leg from turtle to expose the hip to get a hook in. Lots of floating around to various positions. Great job though!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
The first defensive layer has that effect on people that it makes them look less skilled than they are
@DAIXINYI
@DAIXINYI 3 жыл бұрын
Raoul is my spirit animal, I love the combination of defensive BJJ and leg attacks.
@raoulaudhoe6363
@raoulaudhoe6363 3 жыл бұрын
check out my attacking from turtle instructional.... I think you will like it
@pixelcultmedia4252
@pixelcultmedia4252 2 ай бұрын
I already had a sambo victor roll game, so Turtle Guard dovetailed perfectly into that.
@nukenfry
@nukenfry 3 жыл бұрын
A clear usage of the Eduardo Telles game. Often overlooked but the dude has the most impenetrable guard.
@Hazama91350
@Hazama91350 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought but this is no gi, with the gi I won't be so sure
@nukenfry
@nukenfry 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazama91350 In gi it works even better because you get pant grips.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@LOLLYPOPPE
@LOLLYPOPPE 3 жыл бұрын
This clown could’ve been choked within 10 seconds if he met someone worthwhile. These people are total newbies
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@LOLLYPOPPE well …it was a advanced division + we also filmed 3 videos that are also on this channel addressing the chokes example
@capicornboss
@capicornboss 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome to watch! I'll be trying this at my academy. I have a more defensive game so I'm happy to see a whole system dedicated to defense techniques! I'm really excited about this! Oss 🤙🏿
@alope4217
@alope4217 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Why wouldn’t good defense work if there were strikes? For someone to strike they would need to create some distance. When there is some separation couldn’t Raul stand up or move to a safer position? If someone stood up to soccer kick him, couldn’t he stand up as well (before he gets kicked)? I doubt someone would stay in turtle to defend soccer kicks. Seems to me like we get in the most trouble when we allow under hooks, 2 on ones, seatbelts, etc (whether there are strikes or not). I doubt that in a fight someone is simply going to throw Raul to the ground and land kicks, punches, knees, and elbows while he stays in the turtle position. He could have stood up in these matches whenever he wanted to.
@ivanivan5511
@ivanivan5511 3 жыл бұрын
bruh this guy would smash you in a matter of secs. Sorry.
@RonniiV
@RonniiV 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanivan5511 He’s complimenting the guy, not criticizing. Why are you saying the guy in the video could smash him? That has nothing to do with what the comment is about.
@peekaboojujitsoo525
@peekaboojujitsoo525 3 жыл бұрын
Yes finally somebody gets it. But there will always be nay sayers and know-it-alls.
@Firstname_Surname
@Firstname_Surname 3 жыл бұрын
You are in a disadvantaged position and can get hit from many different angles, even if you stand up you're exposing your backside without proper sight. Regardless of how you look at it, it's not a good position for striking.
@harleysosbe272
@harleysosbe272 3 жыл бұрын
Sprawl and elbow the back of the head would be my first guess if striking was involved it's just not good in a real fight to end up in turtle but it's very important to be able to move from there
@mentorhackerspodcast4164
@mentorhackerspodcast4164 3 жыл бұрын
Some of y’all forget the most important principle of jiu jitsu is to not die! If you win, you win. If you tie, you didn’t die!
@JSMinstantcoaching
@JSMinstantcoaching 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to watch this performance in situation. Bringing a lot on the table. Can we say that within the system, there is definitely an hierarchie for positions, making the turtle one the most important associated with panda, and then the three other ones would follow? At least now, competitors will work on bringing some answers to the table :-)
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
You might say that there is a hierarchy but I would say there is more than one
@thesonnybrownbreakdown
@thesonnybrownbreakdown 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff!
@marlonscloud
@marlonscloud 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really well done, be great if you could cover this whole style / scene at some point Sonny!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@balvsmalvs5425
@balvsmalvs5425 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Would be nice to see other attacks from those defensive positions. But still, amazing.
@pcprinciple3774
@pcprinciple3774 3 жыл бұрын
Kimura is probably the next best bet
@balvsmalvs5425
@balvsmalvs5425 3 жыл бұрын
@@pcprinciple3774 There's a pretty neat kimura from turtle, that can be easily unexpected.
@ongobongo8333
@ongobongo8333 3 жыл бұрын
it's just stalling. nothing new or impressive.
@balvsmalvs5425
@balvsmalvs5425 3 жыл бұрын
@@ongobongo8333 I'm also a great hero on my couch. It's not 'just stalling' when the opponent simply cannot bypass your defense. Sure as hell doesn't feel like stalling when I do it to brown and even some black belts.
@kogrady2409
@kogrady2409 3 жыл бұрын
@@ongobongo8333 please explain how having a solid defense is stalling. We are told over and over to never expose our backs yet somehow everyone still gets their back taken. It sure seems like a good idea to know how to deal with it than to keep spouting the same nonsense platitudes. Are you so good that you never have your back taken? What defensive strategy do you employ if and when it does happen?
@rodrigorezende5841
@rodrigorezende5841 Жыл бұрын
Great video and this system coupled with more wrestling looks like it can be absolutely devastating yet timeless and safe. I love it. I am a purple belt in Australia hooked to Priit's work.
@davidcastillo4487
@davidcastillo4487 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was fun to watch. I'd say the way to counter is more wrestling. Turtle is classically how you build a base back up. So wrestlers are more used to dealing with the position. Good defense on this dude's part though. Thanks for the video.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@TC-bv4on
@TC-bv4on 3 жыл бұрын
Judo also
@ericsahs
@ericsahs 3 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Telles pioneered some of this type of turtle work. I think it takes a lot of training to be confident enough in your turtle guard to pull it off in competition like this.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
But the tradeoff is worth it I would say :)
@808BJJ_Black_Belt
@808BJJ_Black_Belt 3 жыл бұрын
I agree this actually works in training but I don’t think I would try it in competition just yet
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@808BJJ_Black_Belt Well you will get there if you train. That was the first time Raoul also tried it in competition
@melvinfigueroa3414
@melvinfigueroa3414 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever noticed that when someone is about to get a heel hook or some sort of leg entanglement, the opponent just stares at the set up and waits for the guy to finish the set up. As soon as anyone touches my legs, I’m like mayday mayday, code red, abort abort.
@Owl-of-Minerva
@Owl-of-Minerva 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Beautifulsubmission grappling. Genius. This is not jiu-jitsu, much less defensive. Call it the way of the turtle. This is bad ass. Thanks for sharing.
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
"the way of the turtle" .... @Priit ...sounds like a title of a book you should write
@darraghkelly1744
@darraghkelly1744 3 жыл бұрын
This gave me a good chuckle. Congratulations on your wins
@UrRedeemer
@UrRedeemer 3 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff! Thanks fkr sharing. But Im curious what Priit thinks of the seal feet ;P
@kogrady2409
@kogrady2409 3 жыл бұрын
Things have changed and seal feet from turtle is recommended now to prevent ankle grabbing and pressure. You can play either way depending on your style.
@UrRedeemer
@UrRedeemer 3 жыл бұрын
@@kogrady2409 Good to know, thanks!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@UrRedeemer These days we play with both options ...evolution of things!
@petriano1
@petriano1 3 жыл бұрын
No seal feet is recommended to attack. Since he's not attacking... And also got knocked on his kneesitting base because of seal feet around 7:33
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@petriano1 Things happen is competition and seal feets are fine for a good base. We have also solutions when we fall and so on
@hardcaliber19
@hardcaliber19 3 жыл бұрын
I think the shear volume of angry, negative commentary on what is so obviously a live test of these principles should tell you that you are truly innovating Priit. When people start to realize how these defensive postures can be incorporated into a highly aggressive offensive game, this stuff is going to be taught everywhere. Everyone talked the same trash about the DDS and their willingness to give up position in search of leg entanglements. No one is talking trash now. This is proof of concept; not a strategy unto itself (although it certainly worked lol). I find it hilarious that so many KZbin grappling "experts" can't see this. Creating a systemic approach to defense is brilliant. When you have no fear of being caught in a "bad" position, you are free to take chances in search of submission, thereby allowing for ultra aggressive offense. Just my take, but that's where I envision this leading. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about your vision Priit, hahaha.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 2 жыл бұрын
I do not disagree with you and it is interesting what kind of reaction this video creates in a lot of people ...thank you for the good words 🤜🤛
@vartanbjj3192
@vartanbjj3192 3 жыл бұрын
Очень интересно было видеть в действии! Очень положительные впечатления. Столь спокойная, неспешная и экономная стилистика сохранности позиции. 🙏
@davidboyle9732
@davidboyle9732 3 жыл бұрын
at 1:21the cheers for defensive bjj are quite loud...
@eia14
@eia14 Жыл бұрын
Ok... I'm convinced Priit lol. Going to start studying it and trying it. Any recs on what DVD to get first?
@Cornbreadddd
@Cornbreadddd 3 жыл бұрын
This shouldn’t even be associated with the word jiu-jitsu
@juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243
@juanjesusdavidedeocampo7243 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too at first before i watched all of priit mikhelson’s seminars on bjj globetrotters youtube channel. Hear him out maybe. At the very least he offers super interesting perspectives whether you agree with him or not
@Madfrostman1
@Madfrostman1 3 жыл бұрын
why?
@Cornbreadddd
@Cornbreadddd 3 жыл бұрын
@@Madfrostman1 Because BJJ is about protecting yourself during combat and controlling an opponent. Ironically, during combat, this guy would get his brain smashed all over the ground with this nonsense.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cornbreadddd Do you understand why we acted this way in competition?
@KonaDaGamah
@KonaDaGamah Жыл бұрын
Play smarter not harder. I love how you are not in a rush of doing things but being very patient and feeling your opponent out and waiting for the opportunity to turn the tables on them. I love rolling like this because my athleticism is not so great and if my partner or opponent has better athleticism than me then I play the defense game, but I’m never in a rush to try and submit them but rather looking for the opportunity for them to eventually slip up. I’m not aiming to be the best but rather to stay in this martial art the best way possible. Love it bro👍👍.
@hermixtonen
@hermixtonen Жыл бұрын
I am a black belt, but realize there are (and maybe always be) areas to explore in which I am a novice. This system is one such area (although I often use running man when people have my back, and it almost always works). Here is my big question - when doing Priit’s turtle, with the forehead serving as a post, what happens if the top player puts a great amount of force (a knee, a shin, a falling shin, a forearm with some falling body weight behind it ) directly across the back of the turtle player’s neck? And if that is survived (I would think that would be a big “if”) what happens when top player keeps doing that over and over, with more force each time? It appears as though it could lead to a massive neck injury, and that perhaps the Priit turtle position is relying on people being “too nice” to do that ? Any answers are appreciated
@DECEPTIONINDICATED
@DECEPTIONINDICATED 15 күн бұрын
Keep the chin tucked in while the forehead is on the ground. If you keep it loose then that is when injuries may happen. The majority of the time they are trying gi or no gi chokes and whatever else they attempt from there. I have played his system for 3 year now and the black belts that I roll with either give me time to escape or they try new things that lose their position. I am a purple belt and his system does work for me. The hand fighting is key.
@l.d.tjonathan5101
@l.d.tjonathan5101 3 жыл бұрын
a guy at my gym plays this turtle style but goes for wrist locks instead of heelhooks. Sneaky as hell but also annoying haha
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Send him my greetings 😎
@wylian84
@wylian84 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting I use turtle a lot when I'm tired, and i wait for the opportunity to pounce as they get frustrated.
@faizshariff9968
@faizshariff9968 Жыл бұрын
Why aren't they using the bulldog choke
@john_admin4965
@john_admin4965 2 ай бұрын
You have broken bjj. 😊honestly this can end all these complex super secret moves.
@TheSchyllerwade
@TheSchyllerwade 3 жыл бұрын
uhhh I would like to know who the RED BELT is around the 8:00 mark in the background...
@1083david
@1083david 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what I'm sayin ..Maybe a judo red belt? Doesn't look like any bjj red belt
@TheSchyllerwade
@TheSchyllerwade 3 жыл бұрын
@@1083david ohhhh, yeah maybe that's it
@bane3991
@bane3991 3 жыл бұрын
This is great haha entertaining and you really make people play to your strengths. I don't consider it stalling because they are at the advantage point here. Makes me want to work on my turtle!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
I would not call the beginnings of the matches exactly that 😎
@mtgsalt1151
@mtgsalt1151 Жыл бұрын
so why didn't the first guy guillotine him in the turtle position?
@DECEPTIONINDICATED
@DECEPTIONINDICATED Жыл бұрын
Hand fighting is the key to prevent guillotines, harnesses, etc. All schools teach the exposed version of turtle position where there are openings for attack. This style gives you a better chance to defend the things taught in today's schools when it comes to turtle position. I have been using his system for 2 years and not one person that I have rolled with from white to black, has said anything negative about this system that I play. When it comes down to it, its to each his own.
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 3 жыл бұрын
Love the next to last guy scared to disengage. Very tough 💪
@quezarr7251
@quezarr7251 5 сағат бұрын
How effective is this in gi? I assume one would just grab the lapels making it harder to stay based out Then again my turttle sucks as i always feel i leave holes open
@daylightharnage242
@daylightharnage242 2 жыл бұрын
Never apply this to anything but BJJ competition, you'll get your skull smashed in.
@Oldhandlewasabitcringe
@Oldhandlewasabitcringe 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely hilarious and really educational
@alexwoxst
@alexwoxst 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a red belt at 07:25?
@yamazaki997
@yamazaki997 3 жыл бұрын
Defensive masterclass:) loving this style :)
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@bravesirgallahad
@bravesirgallahad 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for everyone to adopt this style, we can see some narley turtle stalemates 😜
@tricyclemishap
@tricyclemishap 3 жыл бұрын
Yah maybe see a match with double turtle guard pull 😄
@Monkstameth
@Monkstameth 3 жыл бұрын
Weird rules weird matches. Awesome display of defensive positions. Killer leg-hunting.
@Theo-dj7vs
@Theo-dj7vs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Monkstameth it's weak as fuk...no integrity...no use case but this (amateur) rule set. Waste of time.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theo-dj7vs You do understand what was the reason right?
@eo333
@eo333 3 жыл бұрын
@@Theo-dj7vs and winning with it. haha
@williamharding1319
@williamharding1319 3 жыл бұрын
I love that semi imanari on the German guy. Beautiful jiujitsu!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@b4dmaash
@b4dmaash 6 ай бұрын
Yeah this guys defense is at the elite level and should be entered into the UFC, he will do well there.
@gryffgraff4802
@gryffgraff4802 Жыл бұрын
idk how to fix this, but the last match, the most important one, is impossible to watch due to your channel recommending next vids.
@rollinOnCode
@rollinOnCode 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get raul to do a couple segments on transitions to leglocks and other attacks from turtle and defensive posture?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
He is working on that!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Question …do you play “my” turtle and also do you play leglocks yourself?
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
Instructional is coming out soon......
@raoulaudhoe6363
@raoulaudhoe6363 3 жыл бұрын
instructional is out, go check it out
@rogerpang
@rogerpang 3 жыл бұрын
Is that cross legged panda a new position? Love it 😍
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to annoy priit .... start calling it buddha panda
@kogrady2409
@kogrady2409 3 жыл бұрын
Only for the extra flexible disciples.
@rawskinbeyer
@rawskinbeyer Жыл бұрын
Looks like abusing the loophole of most grappling systems, that is the absence of striking.
@ivanivan5511
@ivanivan5511 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@bjjmo5457
@bjjmo5457 3 жыл бұрын
He obviously had a goal of proving a strong defense could keep you safe until he saw the right moment. His leg lock game showed that he has other skills, but that he was trying to prove something. Yes exposing yourself like this when strikes are allowed would be foolish, but this isn't a match with strikes. This is a BJJ sport competition, not the street. If you think he'd use the exact same tactic in a mma match, street, etc your fooling yourself. If ever in a street fight, where someone takes your back and tries to choke you out... It sure is nice to have these defensive tactics as a reflex. For those of you saying something along the lines of "this or that painful move would open his turtle", I'd argue those tactics put you in a position where he could exploit an opening. Obviously nothing is perfect. Learning defense can't hurt your game. I think defense is what has made Floyd Mayweather the greatest boxer of all time. Defense has never really been emphasized in BJJ, so people are frustrated when confronted with it. Like all things in BJJ, somethings connect with you, others don't. Find what makes you happy, and use those tactics. I thought this was brilliant!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛 ...thank you for that!
@michaelbarnhill2685
@michaelbarnhill2685 3 жыл бұрын
When panic sets in, you do what you trained. Turtle position is ignorant in a self defense art, which juijitsu is.....well....was.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbarnhill2685 Well it was someones definition towards bjj ...and I do disagree with that!
@michaelbarnhill2685
@michaelbarnhill2685 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ it was the definition by the people who invented it..both Brazilian juijitsu and Juijitsu. People disagree with facts all the time. Their cognitive dissonance helps them to find peace with their own lies.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbarnhill2685 I think we are past that time when jiujitsu was considered for selfdefence ...I think jiujitsu can be so much more and one of the applications can be self defence Well I do have another idea of facts and everything should have room to be questioned ...even gravity is a theory because of that Also this was the first layer that we were willing to test in competition and yeesh it looked passive but it fulfilled our objective ...if you want to see how turtle effectively work in a fight then watch Robert Whitaker turtle breakdown or also watch Robby Lawler vs Colby Covington first round to see how defence could work
@simonyadig
@simonyadig 7 ай бұрын
What belt is this? So far these aren't great ways to attack the turtle that I'm seeing. Very cool idea, I'd love to try to go against someone with this style and see if I could crack through their shell.
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 Ай бұрын
Open weight was all belt levels. Last (2 matches) the rest was expert level. 1 purple belt, 2 brown belts and a black belt
@zencat13
@zencat13 2 жыл бұрын
This a work of genius! Like he's seen through the matrix - Telles would be proud
@김천재-c9j
@김천재-c9j 3 жыл бұрын
black or brown belt ? awesome!!!
@raoulaudhoe6363
@raoulaudhoe6363 3 жыл бұрын
brown belt now... was still purple a day before that tournament
@andycampbell85
@andycampbell85 2 жыл бұрын
That guy's defence was TIGHT! 👀 🔥
@zaidflowers1828
@zaidflowers1828 3 жыл бұрын
What belt are u
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
He is a brown belt now
@nonamenolastname9567
@nonamenolastname9567 2 жыл бұрын
love this , amazing work , you are a genius!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 2 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛👌🖖
@philo-aletheia
@philo-aletheia 2 ай бұрын
He's got great inversion from those positions. I want to learn to do that! :)
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 Ай бұрын
Google Raoul Audhoe Attacking from turtle to find my instructional
@jordanfrankfurt6978
@jordanfrankfurt6978 3 жыл бұрын
It helped that he's just better by a lot and could have won easily at any point. His coach basically just said "okay, now win" near the end of each match. If he hadn't played this way he still would have easily won 7 matches with 7 submissions... Just... ya know, faster.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Do you understand what we went to do in that competition? Turning your back to unknown opponents in a tournament is no easy task. It is easy however say afterwards that he was better or whatever ...we went there to test our defensive ideas
@deathofaclown
@deathofaclown 3 жыл бұрын
this is blowing my mind most movement is just giving your opponent openings and is therefore unnecessary close yourself up, wait, and strike exclusively for heal hooks breaking the bjj meta 😂
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@Muaithaisy
@Muaithaisy 3 жыл бұрын
You should totally Dojo storm a few gyms with this system...
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha .... dojo storm .... is that still a thing?
@janmeppe
@janmeppe 3 жыл бұрын
why can't they go straight for the RNC when you're in turtle keeping your arms tight to your chest? isn't your neck exposed?
@zaidflowers1828
@zaidflowers1828 3 жыл бұрын
That's what they want you to do it exposes your arms .
@Madfrostman1
@Madfrostman1 3 жыл бұрын
When the chin is properly places the rnc isnt there right away so it allows for more time to counter/escape/transition.
@rickyalvarez4682
@rickyalvarez4682 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed 🥋🐺👍🏼
@pavelsaenz59
@pavelsaenz59 3 жыл бұрын
beautiful!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@davideverett1587
@davideverett1587 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular entry he’s using for the leg locks here? It definitely doesn’t look like a standard rolling kneebar. He clearly inverts but I was wondering if he’s switching to a kind of tornado guard? Is there anything on the net covering these sorts of entries from turtle? Fantastic video, loving all this new content on KZbin!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
He is coming out with the DVD soon about how he attacks from there 🤓 PS. Thank you!
@raoulaudhoe6363
@raoulaudhoe6363 3 жыл бұрын
DVD is out... go check it out
@joehill4945
@joehill4945 3 жыл бұрын
Never give up those underhooks eh?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Well that is the idea of the first layer yeesh!
@toughfff712
@toughfff712 3 жыл бұрын
Does it work in the street or against multiple attackers?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely not?
@toughfff712
@toughfff712 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ it's a joke, but thanks for the reply.
@watchandlearnbjj
@watchandlearnbjj 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that none of his opponents initiated any of their own foot attacks
@flippaRuATX
@flippaRuATX 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to keep engaging them when they go into turtle like that. If I were to just stand up and not engage wouldn't the ref make him get up too
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video?
@user-ur8vm8ii4z
@user-ur8vm8ii4z 19 күн бұрын
Wonder if he would do this against someone like Gordon Ryan? 🤔
@MichaelFarbridge
@MichaelFarbridge Ай бұрын
Turtle is like cheesing in videogames. Fun as hell when you pull it off, but annoying for anyone playing against you.
@thos1618
@thos1618 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job against Raphael Lovato Jr in Match 3.
@erictheawesomest
@erictheawesomest Ай бұрын
I dono what it's called elsewhere but couldn't you just do a super choke on him? Coz he doesn't seem to be protecting his neck
@carlsonjack
@carlsonjack 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely helps that your leglock game is sick nasty
@raoulaudhoe6363
@raoulaudhoe6363 2 жыл бұрын
I can get by. .....few of my students are better leglockers then I am
@koalaofdeath2045
@koalaofdeath2045 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that was pretty fun. I'd love to see this kind of style at the big IBJJF tournaments to see if that still holds up against that level. No offense to Grappling Industries but if there's somebody who can do this to the black belt adults at Worlds that'd be so entertaining!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
It has been done in the black belt level in quintet kzbin.info/www/bejne/naezh3V-qKZ7eJY
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
We have to start somewhere 😉 ...if the testing leads us finally there then we will see!
@HeavyHunter16
@HeavyHunter16 3 жыл бұрын
This is just showing off now xD
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Not really ...this is us doing what people have said we should be doing - testing our ideas under pressure 😎
@HeavyHunter16
@HeavyHunter16 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ and you guys proved again. It works amazingly!!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyHunter16 🤜🤛
@ikrampicaso920
@ikrampicaso920 3 жыл бұрын
God damn, that’s amazing lol. Btw how do this defensive principle in MMA? I guess a lot of defense by just getting up??
@FH-pn1tm
@FH-pn1tm 3 жыл бұрын
One of the rare moments where I actually agree when people say "this would never work in mma"
@DMurdock
@DMurdock 3 жыл бұрын
If you take away the sport element, it basically becomes wrestling.
@ikrampicaso920
@ikrampicaso920 3 жыл бұрын
@@FH-pn1tm right, i’m quite curious how this works in MMA. The foundation of this system is that you don’t give easy underhooks, don’t put too much stress on getting choked and the positions that priit introduces is somewhat eternal. But how does this work if someone is trying to literally smash your face to pieces like khabib
@cherryblossom7708
@cherryblossom7708 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikrampicaso920 short answer: it doesn't work. adding in strikes changes the game completely. there's no point trying to consider how this would work in mma
@ikrampicaso920
@ikrampicaso920 3 жыл бұрын
@@cherryblossom7708 haha yeah you’re probably right, if you’re on your back in MMA, i think you already fucked up long ago lol
@Grandroborox
@Grandroborox 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. You should be a Priht brown belt now innit.
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@chriscrew4478
@chriscrew4478 Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew if they recognized what he was doing... I'm only a year in but have watched a lot of KZbin so I know running man and panda.... but almost all people ive talked to don't know about it
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 Ай бұрын
ThankS… takes a while to spread
@Farrell119
@Farrell119 3 жыл бұрын
Did they just Floyd Mayweather BJJ?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Haha ...good one!
@NickVsqzjr
@NickVsqzjr 3 жыл бұрын
How is this not stalling?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
You have to ask the ref ...we also expected to get stalling calls while testing it all ...it was the price to pay to find out
@NickVsqzjr
@NickVsqzjr 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ Good stuff
@snipsel
@snipsel 3 жыл бұрын
Great display of turtle. I'm using this in sparring since the first Globetrotters video and it works very well. I don't get why people hate on his style. What's the difference between this and pulling closed guard, fighting grips and work towards submission!? Not practical for a street fight? Of course! It's a jiujitsu match. But don't be naive - your top pressure side control could be useless too if the other guy stabs your liver from bottom.
@KingLouieJones
@KingLouieJones 2 жыл бұрын
So in jiu-jitsu, if you turtle and then concede side control, no guard pass points are awarded?
@matude_1
@matude_1 3 жыл бұрын
Legend!
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@brownhousefarm
@brownhousefarm 3 жыл бұрын
How does the technique do with gi?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Very well!
@MistaJayLJ
@MistaJayLJ 3 жыл бұрын
I’d just stay in front with a chin strap and do nothing and win by advantage “passive BJJ”
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time when we are willing to test it again someone does that 🙂 But the point is I guess that it is easy to say those things and it is another thing how you act in a competition. Most people consider turtle bottom easy to break and they feel good when someone turtles because they give away a dominant position so to speak and most people will start to attack it ...and of course we will see some other strategies emerge also like people walking away and so on ...it is what it is and this is the price of testing it all out
@MistaJayLJ
@MistaJayLJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ yes I agree, it’s all about being clever and playing the game within the rule set
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@MistaJayLJ Indeed ...and that is what we did. It is not easy to try defensive ideas under pressure ...it is easy to give more than you can chew ...babysteps
@donnieg6193
@donnieg6193 3 жыл бұрын
that was VERY interesting...I underestimated the value of turtling...
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@ruliliru2378
@ruliliru2378 9 ай бұрын
If system works is one thing, but if you teach people that default reaction in fight is to go to turtle then the martial arts main purpose of self defense is lost. This martial art is turning into a fun game for many people. Slap jitsu looks like a must for competitions now as a correction tool
@FernandoHernandez2
@FernandoHernandez2 3 жыл бұрын
Turtle pride, Amazing stuff 👏👏👏👏👏
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@henriquecordeirodemacedo1982
@henriquecordeirodemacedo1982 Жыл бұрын
My game since blue belt is exactly the same, i have short legs but defensive game, só this fits perfectly
@pedrosabbak3965
@pedrosabbak3965 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy Imanari at 8:40
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@LuisCruz-wu5gv
@LuisCruz-wu5gv 2 жыл бұрын
This is priceless! 💪🏽
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 2 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛🖖👌
@SoulJiuJitsu
@SoulJiuJitsu 3 жыл бұрын
Great technique for competition. Terrible technique for self defense. Also, why does nobody grab his neck or chin? Is this really advanced level grappling in Europe?
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was not self defence situation so it is a bit unnecessary to point that out because nobody is also claiming that. If youd would know how this turtle is built then you would understand why the openings are not there! 🙂
@izzate7
@izzate7 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. It would be cool to see this system in high level competition
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
If you are interested of turtle the I recommend watching Eduardo Telles matches
@Cain22222
@Cain22222 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting style, hope to see it one Day in mma or in a street fight
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
Did you understood why we acted that way in here?
@Cain22222
@Cain22222 3 жыл бұрын
@@DefensiveBJJ lol, not really please explain
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cain22222 we were testing defensive layers of our turtle and this competition format gave us a good platform
@雷不怕
@雷不怕 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! King of turtle !
@raoul7923
@raoul7923 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha..... If I am king then priit is emperor and telles is god of turtle. ...... in reality , I am the court jester at best
@DefensiveBJJ
@DefensiveBJJ 3 жыл бұрын
🤜🤛😂😂
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