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Patterrz Reacts to • How a Shocking Legenda... How Miraidon Surprised Everyone in a Big Pokémon Tournament
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[@MorePatterrz]

Freezai also just uploaded a video about Zamazenta!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gquvo39-osySrM0

[@Silver_Sage663]

Ok but why am I starting the video 3 seconds in, Ben.

[@ThePokemonKage]

Me to Zamazenta: I owe you an apology, I wasn't really familiar with your game

[@kaynor1260]

It also got no. 1 usage in a regionals recently

[@priestesslucy3299]

He's a good boi

[@enzoforgets9456]

All of us owe zamazenta a big apology for slandering the dog for years

[@tomrejor4842]

It deserved it at the time, it's game freak doing what should have already been done

[@TheProswagonist]

The slander was deserved at the time. It's just that the shield doggo took it personally and decided to hit the gym

[@tbone6032]

To be fair it was garbage it’s only good now cus of body press

[@enzoforgets9456]

@@tbone6032 yea but bro took it personally so we should personally say we sowwy

[@itztaytay2]

The problem with Groudon as an anti-Miraidon answer is that Miraidon can slap on Solar Beam for it and abuse its own sun haha. It's why Groudon isn't really used often to answer Miraidon in Ubers

[@PlumSmug]

yeah, im saying "haha" to, but mine is a lot longer and through tears

[@iamabucket13]

Nobody cared who Zamazenta was until he put on the Body Press

[@Sam24600]

15:13 wait until pat finds out Miraidon gets overheat

[@JamesTheCapybara]

2:53 "My Noodle is purple right now" - Patterrz 2024

[@evanroper6099]

He needs to loosen his grip. He's gonna hurt himself.

[@lbroseven9177]

💀💀💀

[@itztaytay2]

At 17:40 It's actually sextuply boosted, Helping Hand (1.5x), Electric Terrain (1.3x), Hadron Engine (1.33x), STAB (1.5x), Specs (1.5x), Tera Electric (1.33x). 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 204-241 (98.5 - 116.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO And that's assuming the Rillaboom was invested *and* av lol

[@DeadvidDivide]

Unfortunately grassy terrain is up there, so no hadron or electric terrain boost

[@looksfineforme9471]

And the rilla was banded, so there was no chance for it to survive lol

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

Whoever designed Miraidon was high as a kite. That thing is a living delete button ridiculously strong

[@burlyhalfling]

​Wouldnt say ridiculously more, they both hit incredibly hard. Pretty comparable damage Only difference is cali is slow and bulk while miraidon is fast​@windrose5988

[@arcanegale285]

@windrose5988 well both calyrexes, but the idea stands

[@stevenreckling203]

They really should make a ground/fairy type pokemon in the next gen.

[@simonshephard3834]

​@windrose5988 Ice Rider indirectly helped Miraidon by absolutely murdering every ground type to the point not many run ground types in their team

[@jaydog-vz6vt]

Miridon is sadly only 670BST would've loved another 10 in sp atck

[@eonblue9713]

18:05 This was also WITHOUT the electric terrain and Hadron Engine boosts 😱

[@RDGamer321]

Groudon can deal with Miraidon thanks to its Ground typing Kyogre can deal with Groudon with its water typing if it gets weather advantage Miraidon can give Kyogre a massive shock. Forget Rayquaza, Miraidon is now a member of this battle between earth, sea, and technology.

[@Animated_Frank7]

Zamazenta and his redemption arc

[@raizen4597]

Sandy shocks works only if there is the sun up not the elettric terrain XD

[@joshwew9551]

The only other meme is Pelipper T-posing in front of Kyogre for being the superior rain setter lol

[@bigmaczachattack6110]

Everyone hates on Zamazenta when it's been the goat the entire time

[@itztaytay2]

Nah it was really bad until gen 9 when it got Body Press. If it had BP last gen it would have been genuinely good

[@bigmaczachattack6110]

@@itztaytay2 I stand on my hill lol Zamenzenta was mufasa and no one knew it

[@baddragonite]

I legit don't get why people are so surprised at Miraidon doing so well There's a reason some of us were sayin at the start of the gen that on paper it was arguably as powerful as gen 1 Mewtwo. Hugely slept on Pokemon til that regional

[@tatri292]

16:30 Patterrz... You just saw a Latias get one hit by a volt switch and a Terapagos fainted with discharge from almost full health... there's positively no way a Whimsicott survives it

[@joopvanhedel1372]

People will probably test with future paradox forms and they will find 1 or 2 pokemon that fits perfectly in a miraidon team. For example, what will Calyrex do against Miraidon if Iron Jugulis uses Tailwind. Or what will Raging Bolt or Rillaboom do against a Sp. Atk Quark Drive boosted iron bundle using Freeze-Dry

[@baddragonite]

Fun fact: Timid, Choice scarf, tera E Miraidon with max sp atk EVs deals 44% - 51.9 % to a max special defense, max HP, sassy, assault vest Deoxys Defense form Specs is 65%-77% 160 base spdef on Deoxys D btw :-)

[@jt2006ps]

Hey Pat, Sqndy Shocks is a past paradox pkm, so he gets boost in sun, not in eletric terrain Love ur videos, love from Portugal

[@GoofyCharizard]

The real life Paldea

[@EaSpordz]

20:05 ... it doesn't get a protosynthesis boost from electric terrain...

[@hollow_edition]

Yeah, when he said "Sandy Shocks boosted by Electric Terrain" i immediately thought the same "it doesn't get the boost" thing

[@lbroseven9177]

Yeah but it’s electric type moves do

[@karammasri1437]

@@hollow_edition Same

[@adraxer1365]

10:00 Fun fact, a Horse HP "HorsePower" is not 1, Cientifics actually mesure it correctly and it was closer to 4 so i remember. So a Horse have more than 1 HorsePower BRUH.

[@ChocoboKid216]

I think it would be natural for people to create 4d Chess level teams to be good at making memes. It's all about being creative.

[@Poke-ladd]

Now we don’t really need to breed perfect Pokémon, granted I still think it would be great if Bottle cap improved IVS and Mints worked with eggs Mainly cause I’m a bit of a horder and I like to have a backup mon in the event I accidentally released the Pokémon

[@luigimanzelli3786]

Wolfey is winning even when commenting, the only one who predicted Miraidon :D This format is rough tho, building only around a single restricted makes it close to impossible to cover for every matchup. I like double restricted better.

[@johnedwards4313]

IRON TREADS, WE NEED YOU

[@flallana18]

**Laughs in overheat**

[@JSGypsum]

I think a better counter to kyogre than groudon would probably be the one that's super effective against him and does well in the rain... or if you just want to get rid of the sun you could use koraidon

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content 😊😊

[@EricBurns1]

Here’s the thing. Wolfey said keeping Whimsicott alive could’ve lost him the tournament

[@PlumSmug]

we got a dog, a horse, and a metal, horse, dog, thing whatever WE HAVE FUCKING DESTROYERS OF GALAXIES MAN I HAVENT PLAYED VGC IN LIKE A MONTH FOR A REASON *starts crying profusely*

[@aldwych285]

Now that is a lot of damage

[@sim6359]

This really supports Astroids latest video of the strongest pokemon 1v1

[@The_True_Rowlet]

Gen 9 power creep is legit the this is fine meme

[@luigimanzelli3786]

people love to write power creep without looking at stats, among the restricted pokemon the top3 are not gen9 and among the non-restricted the first gen9 pokemon is #6. But no matter tha stats, people will always type about power creep for some unknown reasons 🤣

[@dimaginarylaw]

Mostly see the powercreep issue brought up in singles, and there a large chunk of the top mons are gen 9 or 8.

[@slick_rickgaming1102]

When I first saw Zamazenta in Scarlet and Violent I immediately thought of Kommo-O, who also took Reg D and F by surprise because people weren't sure how to handle it. Zamazenta is just that but with better stats and a free plus 1 in defense.

[@piplup2884]

Finally I can use my robo penguin

[@wasser-blitz7268]

good vid

[@TheRedStinger82]

Zamazenta got massively buffed because it finally got body press. Ironically enough, it's even better than Zacian this generation. Justice for Zamazenta

[@numberhunter62]

Because Zacian gets checked by one really popular wrestling cat.

[@jasonveren360]

Calling it now storm drain gastrodon going to be new meta stops Kyogre and myridon both

[@hakimesquilin9486]

Yeah my car is around 15 calyrex-shadows

[@creepy0ldguy1]

Fun fact spread moves that hit your ally as well as both of your opponents doesn't get its damage reduced.

[@zedruumd2119]

Not true, spread moves that hit your own ally like Earthquake still suffer the 25% damage penalty in doubles. Spread moves that hit your ally did full damage back in gen 3, but this was changed in all the following games.

[@user-jj6qe1yx6s]

i miss the chat in these videos

[@wasser-blitz7268]

omg im now the kid who says first 10 sek

[@hikariizuki1693]

Some bullshittery, one horse is not equal to 1 horse power

[@neerajsgameroom7365]

This team has a major flaw choice specs is weak to so many things first is fake out you can't stop it second is you always know what move he is going to use next so if you have a good team you can easily defeat it

[@DagarMan0]

that's the reason he begins with volt switch and usually leads with farigiraf, as it helps with both those weaknesses

[@neerajsgameroom7365]

@@DagarMan0 but it's still weak after farigaraf faints I faced this team so many times on showdown and beated it with so many different teams

[@DagarMan0]

@@neerajsgameroom7365 tbf, rajan is a much better player than almost anyone we'd find on showdown

[@neerajsgameroom7365]

@@DagarMan0 that's what I am saying team is not that good it's the player who is good here

[@itztaytay2]

​@@neerajsgameroom7365It's also a lot easier to deal with when you know it's a popular team (after the tourny) and can tech an easy answer to it. Like the vid said, in top 8 there were a grand total of 2 ground types and both were on Miraidon teams lol

[@hishamulhadi17]

Only 664 views😮

[@Ty2000.]

How you gonna do assault vest Steelix against Miraidon if Steelix isn’t even in SV?

[@ehxanoonkareembangahan340]

Next is zamazenta

[@a.v.y8331]

Miraidon being an absolute damage beast is fine and all but... I'm stuck here thinking about tera fire/fairy miraidon running AV, electric seed, parabolic charge, overheat, draco meteor, and volt switch. just being super tanky with lots of coverage, sitting on the field forever and then volt switching out when it has to. let's put it this way. Miraidon's base defenses are almost on par with zamazenta. parabolic charge is a drain move. that miraidon's not going down to a simple double target unless both are invested super effective moves.

[@itztaytay2]

First off you're holding 2 items, Second off Zenta has +1 defense from ability and usually uses Iron Defense as well so its defenses go significantly further, Thirdly Raging Bolt is also a defensive Electric/Dragon that very often goes for setup with Calm Mind and counters for it will also counter your Miraidon (such as snarl spam, parting shot incin, Ting Lu, etc). Not to say it *can't* work but you are going to struggle a lot more than you may think especially facing other bulky teams like Caly-Ice, Zenta, and Terapagos

[@a.v.y8331]

@@itztaytay2 oh oops I forgot to put a slash between av and electric seed. I meant to imply that it could be either item, depending on how you're intending to EV/what kind of threats you're preparing for. also yes I know in practice zama is much more tanky but what I'm getting at is that mirai has the base stats to aim for a tanky build. I do agree, the problem with a setup/tanky offensive mon is usually that they're gonna be around for a while and so pokemon that rely on utility to improve team defenses will generally be a problem. and like you said in that case why not just use raging bolt instead, since it's basically the same idea. I think what I was thinking about was more centred on the parabolic charge idea. I don't know exactly how it'd work in practice, but the amount of healing you'd get from parabolic charge and just being able to stick around for a long time when your opponent expects a blitzkreig kind of build (as well as the fact that that's what most miraidon players will be bringing) could similarly pose a lot of problems to bulky and balance offense teams. team support in this sense would be far more offensive focused to take out opposing pokemon that would lower stats, rather than utility/defensive focused like for offensive miraidon, and you'd probably run more prankster taunt/screens perhaps? I could see grimmsnarl being a very decent member of a team like this, as well as something like chi-yu or chien-pao being able to lower spdef and handle ting-lu respectively. maybe even bundle might be a good option to take out incin and amoongus which would run interference otherwise. idk, just theorycrafting in my head wondering if this might be a miraidon iteration that gives teams more trouble than they expect.

[@tougyoug3133]

React to the zamazenta video next

[@lordsceptile6181]

I think Miraidon will be stuck as a rogue option. Whenever it become meta, Lightning Rod users will come to completely shut it down. Tera fairy + lightning rod makes the pokemon immune to this Miraidon set.

[@sussybeam55]

Miraidon can learn Overheat r u sure that can be shut down? Zamazenta is even more vulnerable ghost type completely shut it down steel STAB on Zamazenta is hot garbage due to its low base atk and most of ghost type can learn will-o-wisp

[@lordsceptile6181]

@@sussybeam55 running overheat puts big holes in this strat for Miraidon. If you remove Draco you’ve lost the ability to damage dragons, removing Drift removes your best damage option, removing discharge removes your best spread damage and only way around lighting rod with stab, and volt switch is the entire reason Miraidon is good. Also a different between Zamazenta and Miraidon is that Zam can just ignore ghost types. Yeah it sucks he can’t hit them, so just hit their teammate. Miraidon can’t ignore lightning rod as it completely disables Drift and Volt Switch.

[@jhaydenjoecredo3761]

no one is gonna run raichu and tera fairy just to resist both stab because you're getting destroyed by other mon those lightning rod user might have a niche like brambleghast but its not gonna stay because miraidon user will adapt

[@wumbojet]

Whoever thought miraidon was a good idea needs to be fired

[@yungcitrus1673]

Imma stick to draft league VGC is confusing

[@KeanuVGC]

Zamazenta on top

[@brandontracy-hurst2565]

Also broken in Pokerogue

[@zyr425]

pog?

[@glasssofOJ]

Frank just made a video showing the most powerful Pokémon and miraidon was second most powerful out of 1100+ Pokémon.

[@phyuckyuutuuu9653]

Bro is years late

[@itztaytay2]

The tournament in question was just like a week ago and the new format started not even 2 weeks ago .-.

[@phyuckyuutuuu9653]

@@itztaytay2 sw/sh did the same format, list goes on

[@itztaytay2]

@@phyuckyuutuuu9653 And back then there was no Miraidon which is the point of the video

[@phyuckyuutuuu9653]

@itztaytay2 yeah if you ignore the beginning where he was talking about the "new legendary format" So idk stfu? Lmao

[@SirReptile]

Holy early

[@jamesprice6390]

turn to Jesus

[@NotAlphaCentauri]

They did Zacian dirty The nerf was overkill

[@lukeleslie9648]

A couple of months ago, Freezai was caught deleting comments that criticized his sponsor. I thought I'd let you know that in case it affects whether or not you'll react to him in the future.