Complete Guide To Precision Scope Mounting - Part 1 of 2

I provide the most detailed, comprehensive guide to precision scope mounting available.
I cover everything you need to know from principles, methods, equipment, tips, to how to verify and confirm your optic is mounted correctly.
Be sure to watch Part II for using a tall target test for confirmation.
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Gary Melton is a former U.S. Army Special Forces Green Beret, Weapons Sergeant, and Sniper Team Leader with 4 combat tours. He has worked full time as a Unit Chief and Special Tactics Instructor at a federal agency, and is the owner and Lead Instructor for Paramount Tactical Solutions.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
02:13 - The 3 Principles of Scope Mounting
03:59 - Importance of Removing Variables
04:40 - Understanding Limits of Scope Mounting Methods
06:23 - Why You Shouldn't Level Off Reticle
09:10 - How To Verify Your Level Is Accurate
10:31 - How to Verify Top of Turret Is Parallel With Turret Housing Bottom
12:51 - How To Adjust Top of Turret So It Is Parallel With Bottom
15:30 - Prep Your Mounts/Rings
17:14 - How To Establish Proper Eye Relief
21:25 - Recommended Equipment
22:47 - How to Level The Rifle
27:12 - Vibr-Tite On Fasteners
31:08 - Understanding Torque Values
37:18 - Intro To Tall Target

[@dangriesemer3710]

"Want something done right, do it yourself." Wise words. One exception to that- looks like you are competent, trustworthy.

[@malcolmfield6677]

Fantastic and educational video as always from you. I learned how to mount optics from your earlier video. I won't claim to be anything special at mounting an optic but I believ that I am doing so in a reasomably correct manner because of your videos. Thank you.

[@TheWarriorWorkshop]

Awesome job Gary. And I'll say this about Paramount...I recently purchased an MPA rifle from him. EVERY TIME I called and had a question, HE answered the phone and spent whatever time I needed to answer my question. He's the real deal folk's.

[@paramounttactical]

It was my pleasure. We’re growing and growing fast but no matter how big we get I want to ensure every client gets one on one attention. If we get too big for me to personally do it, I’ll make sure we have subject matter experts on hand to provide that same level of service. Personal attention and customer service IS Paramount. Thanks for the kind words and your support! -Gary

[@Frostytravels]

Great info man. Thanks for sharing. I utilize your videos on all aspects of firearms and related components on every thing I do. Appreciate what you do.

[@JMS412]

This is a great resource for scope mounting! Thanks for putting so much time into breaking it all down.

[@tomerz99]

Just now getting started with long range shooting and I have no relatives/friends with experience, it's a blessing to have your extremely in-depth videos to rely on. Also, neat to see you're here in WV! I may have to consider getting involved in some classes!

[@paramounttactical]

Welcome to the Paramount Fam! -Gary

[@fattigla]

Excellent tip on turning the turret to match the bottom of the optic. I've mounted a lot of scopes over the years and ha e had pretty good results with vertical tracking. I've always messed around trying to check level off the bottom while it is mounted. That makes it so much easier.

[@FishTacos357]

awesome video!! so helpful. thank you very much

[@scotts24d]

Thanks Gary awesome footage 👍

[@jcprecisionrifle]

Nice video! One of the best I've seen for scope mounting 👌

[@alexcampbell3743]

Gary you’re the s*** man, you’ve helped so much with high end gear and long range familiarization. Appreciate all the good content, im proud you are growing the community and spreading awesome knowledge

[@ernestoruizar4598]

excellent video and very educational as always, thank you.

[@tahoe829]

This was an excellent presentation thanks Gary! 😊

[@merlinsrad]

Great job. All the best information I needed. Watching all the videos right now. As well as mounting my own scope. As you said step by step. Had to watch the video a few times😂.

[@perrywinn9377]

Thanks Gary, very comprehensive. Now to go get some gear and mount my new scope. Time to watch Tall Target Test.😄

[@bondhedger]

Gary, the amount of best-in-class content you share is amazing. I re-watched this pair of videos again. Heading to the Paramount Tactical shop for a couple of those MDT mounts right now! Very much looking forward to seeing you and the team + Ray at your Long Range course next week.

[@scott2228]

Love all this info. I just mounted a scope using a wedge. I watched your wedge don’t work video and it makes sense. Once I verify and if I feel off I will keep using everything you teach until it’s perfect.

[@jeffnew1]

Loved your video I chuckled, self taught wannabe Gunsmith that’s the same same method I taught myself good to know I believe I’m on the right track

[@dominicemole6546]

DIFINITIVE. Added a comment on Rumble and said I would add one here as well. Looking forward to tall target test. Thanks

[@gordonspringate7500]

Really informative video. Thank you from UK

[@Logangameing]

I’m going to be mounting a scope soon on my long range AR 15 build and I found this video very informative!You do a great job of explaining things. Thank you.

[@cwilliams9199]

Found the channel and loving the long format

[@paramounttactical]

Glad you found us. Welcome to the Paramount fam! -Gary

[@mikeodell5915]

Thank you. What an amazing video

[@YodaddieID]

Thank you for the great video. Just started the process of remounting all of my scopes. Being new to shooting I did’t know any better and I use a wedge last time. Look forward to better accuracy. I have a lot of verification to do!

[@davesmith6299]

I accidentally deleted my question but thank you for reply! Great info. Will definitely use in future

[@thedelmardave]

Excellent vid... I watched it several times. Thanks for sharing.

[@paramounttactical]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! -Gary

[@vintagejeep]

Top notch as always

[@josephgolczynski9218]

So glad I found this video

[@Badass2002z28]

Great information

[@jtothefx]

10/10 great work

[@davidwilliams299]

Nice video Gary

[@AF-O6]

This the definitive treatise on scope mounting. I really look forward to your techniques for a tall target test. Looking even more forward to taking a class when I retire next year and am liberated from my Pentagon desk!

[@paramounttactical]

Thank you sir! I look forward to training with you. -Gary

[@jasonsponsler21]

Well worth it. I attended my first course this summer and it was a blast. Great people, Great staff. Learned so much. Going back next year for at least 7-8 courses

[@worrdogg]

Great Content..!!! 👍🏼

[@user-qp3eb4pm1zfatcatreloading]

Good video. 👍 I’ll check out more of your videos and pod cast. I’ve always been more into hunting use of firearms but the last several years I’ve been learning more of the ammo and gun smithing end because as you say. If you want something done right? Do it yourself. I’m no professional. Just a student of the game. Ive been learning a lot from long range shooters in reloading and gun smithing and applying some of the principles to hunting rifles. Watching your videos I can say I’m doing some things right and some things your doing that I have not been doing. One thing I knew I needed already. The right tools my improvised self made tools do ok or tools bought individually mis matched styles and brands get a bit slower and a bit more agitating to deal with. I’ll check out your website. I’m playing with the idea of doing some long range shooting. Something I’m working towards.

[@hectorogando7391]

Awesome presentation. Thank you Gary. Where's your part 2 video. Looking forward in seeing it as well.

[@paramounttactical]

Tall Target Test - Critical Step For Long Range Accuracy kzbin.info/www/bejne/naTMi36IgNOemJI

[@gjmarkjesse1324]

Thank you, Tactical Jim Gaffigan.

[@paramounttactical]

I look nothing like Jim Gaffigan. 🙄 It is a funny comment though so I can appreciate it.

[@alexandruchitac6172]

Great info, thank you! Is part 2 available? LE. Found it "Tall Target Test - Critical Step For Long Range Accuracy" Thanks!

[@Abbynorml1979]

Vibr-tite is awesome. AND it cost less than blue tread lock!? Very helpful video.

[@TheRealDaveRiddle]

My buddy just told me about this channel. (He just found it today) and I’m so flippin’ pleased. I love details and so far, everything I see I like. Speaking of details…faded of in the back I see the words “De Opresso Liber” and I don’t need to see anything else. Subbed immediately. I’m know right off the bat that I’m not dealing with some tool that works behind the counter of Sportsman’s Warehouse who thinks his beard makes him an operator with absolute authority. Awesome channel. I’m in.

[@paramounttactical]

Oh, I got that De Oppressor Liber plaque for my 5 year work anniversary working the counter at Sportsman’s Warehouse. 😂 Glad you found us. Welcome to the Paramount Family. You and your friend be sure to join us every Wednesday at 7 for our live Dangerous Liberty podcast. It’s a good time. Thanks, Gary

[@Tcgunner]

Love this channel even though I don’t shoot long range.. yet

[@jasonsponsler21]

I just got into it and have used Gary’s videos either for how to or reviews. And haven’t gone wrong yet. Went out and took a course from him in WV and it was two whole days of learning. Going back next summer for at least 7 or 8 courses. Welcome to the community

[@jasonrad9332]

Keyword: yet. You’re in for a treat.

[@aaronp5197]

I don’t comment much, but thanks so much for this walk through. Just bought a new RIfle and used your methods meticulously to mount my new scope. Worked perfectly and used a plumbob after just to see and was dead on!

[@paramounttactical]

That’s what we’re here for! I’m glad you got value out of the content and got your rifle up and running! Thanks for watching! -Gary

[@PTS68874]

Just came across you video, enjoyed it and am on the fence on 36 ys zero or 36 meter zero or 25 yd zero. But my question is what grain .223 were you firing @@paramounttactical

[@paramounttactical]

@@PTS68874 in what video?

[@PTS68874]

Sorry, I was trying to reply on a different video about 36 yd zero and somehow not sure what I did or what happened it ended up on yours somehow, sorry for the confusion, I do have your Pt 1 & Pt 2 on my playlist for future viewing.@@paramounttactical

[@paramounttactical]

@@PTS68874 no worries. Typically a 36yrd zero is better ballistically than 25meter. However…. Neither are the correct way to zero IMO. The correct, or at least best way to determine zero distance is to use a chronograph and a ballistics app. The 36yd zero was determined to be the near distance ballistic equivalent of a 300 yard zero. The 25 meter zero was determined to be the near ballistic equivalent of a 300 meter zero. But that was for an M4 shooting m855. So the moment you’re not shooting that ammo out of a 14.5 barrel chambered for 5.56, it’s not accurate. WAY off in many cases. You need to get your muzzle velocity, the BC of the projectile you’re shooting, and determine your actual desired zero distance. We’ll say 300 yards for this example. You look at your ballistic app and determine what the equivalent near distance elevation is. For my rifle and ammo, a 27yd zero results in point of aim/point of impact at 300 yards. Easier way… do a 30ish yard zero and then actually zero at 300yrds. Hope that makes sense and helps. Thanks for watching! -Gary

[@ontargetthomunclesam3926]

Hey Gary did I miss the part of the rings being lapped and how about the rings being aligned wow sure am glad that I know what I'm doing

[@paramounttactical]

Wow, sure am glad I’m here to help you update your outdated info and help you realize you don’t know as much as you think you do. Modern, high quality rings should not be lapped. No serious shooters have lapped rings for over a decade. We have 21 century CNC machines now. Lapping rings is a relic of the early 2000s, 90s, and prior. If you want to destroy your rings, void your warranty, reduce surface contact between rings and optic… lap your rings. 🤷‍♂️

[@user-sm3hz7jj1t]

thank you very much, great resource for scope mounting , Du you sheep any of your stuff abroad ? i would be interested to porches the mounting kit from your site ,thank you . Best regards from the Republic of Ireland.

[@johnesmond1435]

Great video Gary! As always I pick up some little tid bit of info that I wasn't aware of! Keep up the Great work! MOA SUCKS!

[@paramounttactical]

😂 thanks buddy!

[@Twong-wq3fh]

You may want to look into Brunson optical measuring equipment, you'll find a true world of alignment precision.

[@paramounttactical]

I have no need for ridiculously expensive equipment. I can align with more precision than needed and verify it with more than enough precision. 🤷‍♂️

[@bh6984]

I wanted to add a tip about Vibra-tite VC3. Apparently, according to Vibra-tite, the liquid will never "go bad" however the solvent can evaoprate over time (due to age or over-exposure to air - cap left off while working). Vibra-tite confirmed that Methyl Ethyl Ketone can be used to rehydrate thickened solution. They also stated that you might even want to thin the solution with MEK prior to use on small screws like scope rings since the fluid is only supposed to be consuming a fraction of the thread nulls. On my first attempt at using VC3, I apparently applied the thick solutions to heavily to some scope ring and action screw threads and, after having let the screws dry overnight, I found it very difficult to drive the screws in with a torque wrench. I backed them out, cleaned the screws with MEK, diluted the Vibra-tite slightly with MEK and then cut the supplied brush (on the lide of the 1 oz container) to be a much smaller width (better for applying to short screws). After reapplying a thinner coat, the screws torqued in much easier. Also, don't apply the VC3 to the leading threads of the screws.

[@paramounttactical]

I’ve never had any of those problems. I add a small amount to the last 1/3 of threads, let it sit for 5-10 mins and then torque to spec. We mount scopes professionally and do several a month. I’ve been using it exclusively for over 5 years and have used it on over a 100, probably closer to 300 optics and never had any issues. 🤷‍♂️

[@bh6984]

@@paramounttactical My apologies for the incomplete context of my original post - here's a much needed,and accidentally omitted, clarification of my post: the bottle of VC3 that I had received from Amazon arrived with a leak from the lid (which they refunded and let me keep). After having difficulties with application, I reached out to Vibra-tite directly. I received a phone call from the company and they offered a very thorough and informative explanation of the VC3 product, including much of the information that I posted above (dilution/rehydration with MEK, cutting down their brush to suit your application, proper application thickness and placement upon the screw length, etc...). My bottle clearly arrived with a loose lid which had allowed for evaporation of the MEK solvent, thereby thickening it somewhat. I just wanted to clarify that I'm a Vibratite convert (thanks to the previous Paramount Tactical scope mounting videos) and that Vibratite 100% stands behind their products and are seriously concerned about ensuring effective customer use of their product.

[@jamesc6137]

Wow. Can’t believe no mention of lapping rings.

[@paramounttactical]

Because no one serious about long range has been lapping rings since the early 2000s. If you want destroy modern rings and mounts and reduce surface area, lap your rings/mounts. Why do you think a $50 lapping bar is more circumferential than a $200+ set of rings/mount that was made on a state of the art cnc machine. Don’t lap rings.

[@danielfinke6677]

Good info. Has part 2 been posted?

[@paramounttactical]

Still editing. Should have it up tomorrow or Wed.

[@grobertaguilar6023]

Did you switch orientation of the scope mount between the test fit and final fit?? I think you did bc I could see the clamp nuts during the test fit and the final fit they were on the other side.

[@ismaelsandoval6484]

Hey Gary, thanks for the valuable information. I have a somewhat dumb question, what is that orange/copperish piece of metal you lay the bubble level on? You called it a flat piece of stock but it seems to be a piece of metal that’s precisely machined. I was just curious about it, I found it to be very handy and it doesn’t take too much space in the toolbox

[@paramounttactical]

It’s a trigger jig from Apex Tactical.

[@tdhayes1]

Great Video, Again! is this process viable for AR Style rifles?

[@paramounttactical]

Exact same process.

[@apache5612]

Great video! Very informative! Just one problem, my scope is not balanced? I have a Vortex Viper HS-T 6-24 x 50. Scope is front heavy. What can I do to check turret level?

[@paramounttactical]

Hold the back end down. I do it all the time. Just make sure the turret housing is flat and you’ll be good to go.

[@apache5612]

@@paramounttactical I'll try it when I'm ready to put my rifle back together. Gotta get it cleaned. Thanks for replying to my question/remark.

[@apodbielski913]

I’m sure it’s alright, but my OCD side always had me torquing the scope base to the rail before leveling the scope to the rings/final cap torque values. Have you ever come across a shift in level when applying final torque specs to the mount base cross bolts after everything else has been done? Love the videos btw, very well done! 🇺🇸

[@paramounttactical]

No. You can torque down first but I have found if a shift doesn’t happen in the initial 20-30 inch/lbs I have seen it happen during final torque

[@apodbielski913]

@@paramounttacticalgood to know!

[@mr.t8830]

Hi great video have all the gear you have and do mine pretty much the same (love your attention to detail) Have a question I have a CZ MDT .22LR the Barrel is Tapered and I can not use callipers due to the chassis being in the way and would appreciate a good way to get the Center of the barrel and the measure to the bell housing of the scope to get an accurate scope height for the ballistic calculator, te bolt has too much play just wondered if you can help with this or anyone has a good way.

[@paramounttactical]

How To Calculate Height Over Bore kzbin.info4_fGb3yj1Bk?feature=share

[@mr.t8830]

@@paramounttactical Hi thanks for the quick reply the only trouble with this method is my bolt on the MDT has a few m of movement when extended enough to get a measurement probably giving an error of up to 2mm, I’m a bit like yourself and my OCD is telling me it’s not accurate enough, I’m in England and there’s not as much help over hear due to our laws restricting gun ownership unfortunately so appreciate your help,

[@babagermany6654]

Thanks for the informative video. All things being equal, what would be an ideal height of a scope over the bore? I have a Savage 110 Hunter bolt action and I am using for now a PA deluxe AR15 scope mount 30mm to hold a PA SLX1-6x24 scope but I am finding it difficult to to get a good cheek position to get a good view through the scope even with the highest cheek riser which comes with the rifle, does this mean that the mount is too high for this type of rifle and I would need to get a lower mount? What would you recommend? Thank you

[@paramounttactical]

How To Make Your Rifle More Accurate - Adjust The Gun To Fit Your Body kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2rUdmiEgtmIebs

[@JamesWhite-tg4kw]

The lower the scope is on the barrel the better the cheekweld you will have to the stock unless you have a cheekweld justible stock

[@babagermany6654]

@@JamesWhite-tg4kw Thank you

[@user-df6of4jl7g]

I have discovered a pretty innovative way to level.Using a laser to make the reticle's vertical lines perpendicular to the plane of the Picatinny rail.

[@paramounttactical]

I guess you missed the whole section on why you don’t level an optic based on the reticle.

[@paulkillington5089]

Hi There Great video . I have a scope to mount; Could I use the Angle indicator thorough the whole process specifically once the Scope is in the rings and the Rifle is in the Vice @ 30.00 ?? Seems to me the digital readout will have a greater degree of accuracy than a Mk1 Eyeball and a Bubble level. Kr

[@paramounttactical]

Good bubble levels are typically more accurate and sensitive. I’ve done a lot of testing on this and levels will indicate angle change faster. But yes, you can use an angle indicate. The question is what are putting on the barrel to serve as the witness? If you just put a level or angle indicator on a hand guard those are always a couple degrees off from the action. Ultimately, if you follow the principles, there’s several ways to skin the cat. Thanks for watching. -Gary

[@paulkillington5089]

Hi there Thanks for the reply sir, I need to get the witness mounting kit for the barrel :) Given ive spent ££££ on a new rifle and £££ on a scope + ££ on rings i want it done as best and as accurately as i can .. I will be following youre really clear directions on this install

[@user-tz6tv6pn9c]

I understand the concept behind scope mounting principle #1, but I am lost on how to achieve this with a 20 moa base. I have tried but I can't find the video you mention covering this. How do I make sure the optic is level to the base? Thank you and I am enjoying your videos.

[@paramounttactical]

You don’t change anything. The rifle I use in this video had a 20MOA base. I think you’re over complicating it.

[@aramic1975]

Thank Your explanation ! What i didnt understand : Why did you put the Electronic MDT Leveler vertically and not horizontally? Thank you in advance for your Answer! Greetings from Germany

[@paramounttactical]

Because it works equally in both orientation s and I prefer the lower profile of it in the vertical orientation. That’s how I run them on all my rifles. Here’s the video where I discuss that. The Best Long Range Accessory? - MDT LRA Send It Electronic Level / Anti-Cant Device kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWWynXqGesymq68

[@aramic1975]

Thanks a lot😃

[@tylerfecho4454]

I bought a Scalarworks. Two sets of bubbles and a rifle vise never got me anywhere.

[@millbean13]

Question, after you install scope and zero it. Can you take the mount off and move it forward or backwards on the pic rail to adjust eye relief (w/ scope still installed)? Or will that ruin the zero. I’d assume it would ruin it but not sure.

[@paramounttactical]

It won’t ruin it. It might be off slight. Simply check zero and if a couple of clicks are required, do what you got to do. You should make those eye relief adjustment before you zero. If you don’t have proper eye relief, it’s going to be hard to get a proper zero. Mount, go to range and if eye relief adjustment is required do that then zero.

[@jasonsponsler21]

Gary, have you ever messed with or seen the need for one of those scope cages? Also when mounting an optic on a carbine do you use the same method?

[@paramounttactical]

Scope cages? You mean turret guards? Yes on the carbine. Same method.

[@jasonsponsler21]

They are called an optic cage. I tried to put a link in. Just google scope cage. I’ve seen a few shooters on KZbin using them just wondering if they are just a gimmick or something to look into getting

[@carsonseibel7004]

Just curious on why you torque the ringcap and remove the lever befor you torque the base

[@paramounttactical]

It’s a personal preference thing. I’ve tested the fact that the mount/rings settle of you put just a few inch lbs on the cross bolts but I don’t torque them down fully in case I get everything mounted and need to tweak eye relief by moving the mount/rings one space on the pic rail forward or back. Thanks for watching! -Gary

[@The_Hunter_26]

Can you do a vid where you test the March 8-80x56 high master scope?

[@paramounttactical]

I appreciate the recommendation but I have about 18 months of videos planned out and that isn’t on my list. With a 56mm obj at 80x the exit pupil would be so small (.7mm) I’m not even sure such a scope makes sense to me. I did google and there’s plenty of reviews on it. Thanks for watching! -Gary

[@The_Hunter_26]

@@paramounttactical I had this scope in mind for long range shooting and I really liked the way you test scopes. But I appreciate that you replied to my comment, so thanks for replying

[@AK-ft5vl]

What do you recommend a guy does if the gun shop guy says the scope mount holes are drilled off center from the factory on my rifle? This was on a scope i had previously mounted before i found thus video

[@paramounttactical]

That doesn’t matter. Screw the scope base on and level off of that. You’ll be good to go. If your optic is level to the base even if it makes the rifle slightly canted in reference to the stock and trigger, everything will work. Or contact the rifle company and have them replace it. Your optic and ability to put rounds on target will work in spite of that but that’s an egregious QC issue that I wouldn’t let stand.

[@user-ck5eq4pf7f]

Watched your video and installed my scope but I ran in to a problem. After my zero at 100yds only have 5 mils of elevation left I was wondering if you have ever seen that ? I have a Springfield waypoint 2020 and mounted a Nightforce shv 4x14x50 with Nightforce med high rings

[@paramounttactical]

Yes. I see it all the time. You need a 20MOA mount.

[@brandonlight7682]

Why would my scope not sit in line with my gun and barrel after mounting? It sits like / even after a remount. Is there a way to figure out what is causing this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[@paramounttactical]

I don’t understand what you’re describing.

[@rickolson1738]

i have the arken 20MOA scope mount. where would you level on that mount behind the rings? or across the lower ring flats? they are a few tenths off from each other. i went off the top of the lower rings.

[@paramounttactical]

I’d level the rifle and make sure it’s level before I installed the rings/mount. I never level off rings or the mount itself unless I can verify they are truly parallels with the scope base of the rifle after they’re installed.

[@markhyena]

Part 2????

[@dblshock]

so where .22LR is desired can I do a reduced version of this 'Tall Target'? say 100ft. POA? I'm thinking why not? benefit may be smaller but so are the holes. what's your take thx.

[@paramounttactical]

Yes.

[@adenbolin2761]

Maybe it's a stupid question, but wth... When do you know your eye is the correct distance from the optic? Is it just the "shadow" around the edges? I ask because Ive always had that when using other's weapons. When Ive asked, it's always brushed away with the reply "just move your head until you see the cross hairs, and they're centered". With that considered, I've still shot very well at distance - enough so to win numerous rifle matches in my youth. Would setting the distance so that there is no shadow be the better way moving forward?

[@paramounttactical]

That is the ONLY way to do it.

[@wtrax7194]

Yes a wonderful Tutorial my friend but you lost me when you called the Rifle a Gun lol…. I’m actually new to assembling the AR type platform but have been shooting that Rifle since 1990, is it more stable to use a one piece Mount over just Optic Rings? I try to buy when I can Top Tier Optics and Components for my application albeit just Weaver or Warne but 100% made in the States. I found sone really nice Warne 30mm Rings but wasn’t sure if a one piece was the better Route. Thank you for the amazing Video my Friend, stay safe and Semper Fidelis

[@paramounttactical]

One piece mounts are better and mitigate sone issues but quality rings are just fine. Thanks! -Gary

[@wtrax7194]

@@paramounttactical thank you for the Intel my friend, I now know that if I find a good Amazon Warehouse Deal on Warne or any made in the USA Rings I’ll be able to get my Optic installed soon.

[@Cumminschris2001]

So what’s the best way to level the rifle if you do not have a picatinny rail, and running just scope rings that mount directly to the rifle?

[@paramounttactical]

I would use the flats on the bottom half of the scope rings.

[@Cumminschris2001]

@@paramounttactical that’s what I was figuring just figured I would ask!

[@scottbuffdaddy]

Just a question , but why wouldn't you tighten the base completely before tightening the scope ? I'm seriously confused and would like to know. Seems the base would be first then continue up.

[@paramounttactical]

You can. Doesn’t matter as long as it’s tight and settled. But you might need to move the mount due to fine tuning eye relief, so I typically get it tight, mounted, and then double check eye relief before I torque the mount fully. Good question.

[@scottbuffdaddy]

Another question I guess , but wouldn't you set your eye relief before you tighten your rings ? I've mounted a few scopes and I guess I may have been doing it wrong the whole time , because I've always set the base and then gotten my scope in proper place and then snugged it up and then double checked , am I doing it backwards

[@smchambs]

Couple things.... you don't lapp the rings ? And any lube or loc tite will give inaccurate torque readings.

[@paramounttactical]

No serious shooters have lapped rings for many years. This isn’t the 80s and 90s. Quality rings today are made in multimillion dollar state of the art CNC facilities. Your rings will be more concentric than a $50 lapping bar. If you want to destroy your rings, void your warranty, and have less surface area touching your optic… lap your rings. I don’t use lube or loctite. I use VibraTite on all firearms fasteners. It’s tacky and remains tacky for its life cycle. It keeps your fasteners from backing out and doesn’t affect torque values. I think you need to seriously update your product and technical knowledge. Times have changed and product development has come a long way which requires one to update their methodologies. This isn’t my first rodeo. I’m not a KZbinr. I actually shoot, teach, and work on guns for a living.

[@michaelprince3248]

Do you use Vibr-Tie on cross bolts?

[@paramounttactical]

No. No need.

[@cG-es8mb]

At 8:50 in the clip after getting scope level and yiu look through your scope and the reticle isn’t level, I must have a bad scope and shoukd send it back for repair or for a new scope?

[@paramounttactical]

I don’t understand your question. Are you asking if the scope body is level and the reticle isn’t should you send it back? Yes, it will never work properly if the reticle isn’t plumb inside optic.

[@cG-es8mb]

@@paramounttactical yeah, I was making sure.

[@paramounttactical]

@@cG-es8mb what brand is it?

[@cG-es8mb]

@@paramounttactical I don’t have the scope yet. I’ve ordered it and just waiting for it to come in. It is an arken shj4. I’m trying to learn how to put scope on way in advance before it comes in.

[@scottwilkinson9926]

I am by no means a professional but it surprised me that you torqued your rail fasteners after mounting and torquing the scope rings. Is it possible for torquing the rail fasteners to introduce error in the scope mounting?

[@paramounttactical]

I’ve tested that time and time again. I’ve found that tightening the mount cross bolts to hand tight (20-30in lbs ish) and then torquing them to spec once done results in zero shift. Any shift that will happen happens in the first few in lbs. Also nothing wrong with torquing to spec at beginning if it gives you peace of mind. I don’t tighten completely in case I need to move mount forward or back to dial in eye relief. Regardless, when your done mounting optic the most critical step is confirmation by shooting a tall target which I cover in part II of this video. No matter your procedures or methodology there’s always room for mechanical and human error so confirmation is more important than methods. Thanks for watching! -Gary

[@scottwilkinson9926]

@@paramounttactical thank you for the reply.

[@jasonsponsler21]

Always informative. Will definitely be using this when I mount a new Nightforce on my rifle. Thanks as always. P.S. You look way older from the first. Must be that wife and kids 😂. MOA SUCKS!!

[@paramounttactical]

TIRED AF bro. Been running hard. 😂

[@McgSpook]

​@@paramounttacticallol

[@McgSpook]

Gratz on deciding on nf Jason. Too bad you gonna ruin it with MIL reti cle. Sad really.

[@McgSpook]

How do you do it Jason? I always put a level on my rail then a level on my turret. Match them up. The rail bubble stays on gun so when it says I'm level, scope is level.

[@jasonsponsler21]

Basically the same way Gary explained in this video. I use the Wheeler kit too

[@miketune8965]

Hes a Little Smart Ass at the beginning of the video.

[@paramounttactical]

I’m sorry I hurt your feelings. Feel free to go watch another channel. All that free valuable info and you focus on that? If you can’t handle some humor, and are so easily distracted by moderate sarcasm, I don’t think this channel is for you. 🤷‍♂️ But you have a great new year. -Gary

[@xforce708]

Which Vibra Tite? My blue loc Tite came loose today a third time while at range day for a mile. 🤬

[@paramounttactical]

www.paramounttactical.com/product/vibra-tite-vc-3-threadmate-threadlocker/

[@SirDadbod]

3:14 now isn't this the exact moment u want to leave your scope resting and verify your reticle is level to a plum line to earth, which if it isn't,nothing matters anyway because now your just leveling a leveled scope body to a leveled gun but your reticle won't be, even if your retical tracks properly...if it's not rotated inside the tube level to your final cap levels...it's pointless...

[@paramounttactical]

The last time I checked, your reticle is attached to your optic and your optic is attached to your rifle so for your optic to be plumb to the Y axis of gravity, so does your rifle. Reticles are very often not plumb inside an optic so you have to level the optic first to verify reticle plumb. I do this for a living and I’ve quantifiably proven these concepts and methodologies through real world testing, not through unproven, thought experiment induced theories. You may not understand them, you’re welcome to disagree but just know you’re incorrect. Scope mounting is not an action. It’s a mechanical process of performance confirmation. That process includes verification of 3 critical performance objectives: 1) Optic is plumb to rifle or scope base if scope base has mechanical elevation (20 MOA rail). 2) Reticle is plumb inside optic 3) Optic/turrets mechanically track correctly. The ONLY WAY to verify all 3 critical performance points is to shoot a tall target. I get people like you in the comments regularly that pretend to know so much and make such definitive statements and yet have never once actually verified anything through a tall target test. You get some theories in your head that you believe but it’s all based on unproven theories and hope. Never once does it cross your mind that there are things you don’t know or elements that you’re not considering. So believe what you’d like, but I do what I do because I trust nothing and test everything and have proof it works. Do you? -Gary

[@SirDadbod]

@@paramounttactical maybe u read my statement wrong...i was asking a question..I was trying to understand something.....my point is...isn't it irrelevant if the stock is directly online with the scope if the reticle isn't inlne with the tube? Because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if the reticle is north and south and zero'd to bullet flight path? I mean that's why canted sights work...they are 45 degrees to left or right and still hit where u zero them because they are aligned parallel to the barrel not vertical...

[@paramounttactical]

@@SirDadbod my bad lol 😂 comments are where context and tone go to die. I’m in the middle of some things but wanted to get my apology in because I clearly owed you one. Let me read through your comments, make sure I have my reading comprehension hat on and I’ll give you a proper response. Thanks, Gary

[@SirDadbod]

@@paramounttactical I probably could have wrote it better for context..don't worry I'm grown...i know the struggle with trolls..hahahahha

[@demonsndesires]

Why are the first 2 minutes full of negativity about your assumptions of how the video will be perceived? Good lord...

[@paramounttactical]

You’re welcome to fast forward or just watch another channel. Why is your first comment just bitching? I guess you completely missed the irony of your whiny ass comment. 🤷‍♂️ I’d actually rather you not subscribe and don’t like.

[@FiatLuxGaming]

This shit is ironic as hell. Stfu