COMPLETE Scholar Job Breakdown from DAWNTRAIL Media Tour!

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@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity 26 күн бұрын
Seraphism is monstrously good, but they should listen to the community and dial back how hard they leaned into that outfit change concept. Personally, I like the idea of an aura of little fairies swirling around you like a whirlwind. I was also hoping for the more frequent use of Emergency Tactics idea be present during general use across the job, not just within that 3-minute buff
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 26 күн бұрын
What's wrong with it? I think it looks cool as long as it's different for the different character models, like how Enshroud works (e.g. a Lala doesn't get the Roe Enshroud, etc).
@katherinemerkel3505
@katherinemerkel3505 25 күн бұрын
Or the devs can add a limited glam feature to the form
@tmp5194
@tmp5194 22 күн бұрын
@@SubduedRadical For me, firstly I don't like forced glamour overrides. I dislike Reaper's Enshroud for the same reason of replacing my character and deleting racial features in the process. With RPR tho, it's part of the job's core identity and I typically won't see my enshrouded state between all the flashy attacks. Secondly, the design is "okay" to me on its own, but I don't like how much it clashes with the aesthetic of SCH. We go from tactician/academic looks to a white mage looking glam that's forced. And unlike Reaper, Scholar's never had transformation in its job design so it feels slapped on to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@FhtagnCthulhu
@FhtagnCthulhu 27 күн бұрын
Not a mechanical issue but... I am not a fan of the visual direction of SCH. I feel like we are moving in an angel direction when I really liked the academic / tactician angle.
@Daimaza
@Daimaza 27 күн бұрын
Looks like homogenization aint limited to gameplay only lol
@snowsoldier413
@snowsoldier413 27 күн бұрын
We're just getting more stuff that actually involves Seraph, since for a while she only was on the LB, and then on the summon. I always found it a bit strange that we were an arcanist with like, literally 2 different summons so it's nice we do something interesting with it.
@Avenaur
@Avenaur 27 күн бұрын
Faeries have been part of it from the start. How is that not core design?
@MasterOssy
@MasterOssy 27 күн бұрын
I main SCH. The last thing on my mind is visual looks. I’m all about utility improvements. That’s mainly my wishlist.
@MrCrev01
@MrCrev01 26 күн бұрын
@@Avenaur I don't know, an academic scientist who looks like a cleric (why mage)? even if fairies were there from the very beginning, it doesn't change anything. Does a witch who has a black cat turn into a cat magician and shoot cats?
@InRealTime769
@InRealTime769 27 күн бұрын
Ah Scholar. The job that said, "Why have one central themed aesthetic when I can have 6 of them?"
@williamp8823
@williamp8823 25 күн бұрын
I know people are poo pooing Baneful impact but this might be Square testing the waters with dots again. Sage got a similar addition so maybe they are slowly reintroducing some dots. I would love to see Scholar get shadow flare and miasma back even if as ogcd follow ups.
@SugaMot
@SugaMot 21 күн бұрын
4:15 it's real funny you mention that, Scholar main and I got so many complaints from my raid group during P10S that I had to make a macro for expedient to warn others I was using it
@pentagonofpeople
@pentagonofpeople 26 күн бұрын
Seraphism is a really cool concept and I'm sure it'll be absolutely amazing in battle, but I don't like how it completely deletes your player model in favor of a new one.
@matthewpelletier6900
@matthewpelletier6900 22 күн бұрын
Now thats what I call a capstone. Seraphism sounds incredibly powerful.
@ZealothiaArt
@ZealothiaArt 26 күн бұрын
I love SCH and I'm glad this is the job I started the game with and played 99% of the MSQ with! I love it's gameplay, the only thing i would change on it is the theme: Military?? Fairies?? uhh now Angels?? Like...... pick one please..... and I pick fairies please.....
@MrMclefty
@MrMclefty 27 күн бұрын
Eugh. So an aoe dot that you can cast after applying the buff/debuff to an enemy thats a 2min cd and saved for boss fights that are nearly always only one target and are pointless applying to trash packs cause they die before the buff/debuff wears off. I miss SB SCH.
@cervj69
@cervj69 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for wording my issue with the dot. Probably going to be big for dps but wow so boring.
@MasterOssy
@MasterOssy 27 күн бұрын
I can see the trade off. 2,100 potency, on top of 20sec crit hit up…plus other buffs. It’s very strong for its toolkit. I was against it, now I don’t mind it.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
​@@MasterOssyfrom what I gather, no one minds the actual effect of the thing, it's just that it's kinda meh. Like yay, I do a lot more damage during my 2 minutes with the press of a single button, big deal. It just does not feel like such a big thing.
@MasterOssy
@MasterOssy 26 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 true, I wasn’t expecting much for a new DPS tool. I was more in favor in enhancing its shield and/or mitigation. That’s mostly how I see SCH as the job nowadays. Before this change, I had this request in mind to make Aldo or succor instant with the use of recitation. Instead going to use seraphism which is great to me. I’m not complaining, I’m getting what I want for SCH. It’s already strong as it is.
@bardvt4492
@bardvt4492 26 күн бұрын
@@MasterOssy pretty much how i see it like we do get HUGE dmg durring 2 minutes yea it kinda just feels like a "here have a new dmg caz meh" button but seraphism more than makes up for it assuming healing effects can stack while in seraphism you get some HUGE mit/healing out in such a short time and im all for building upon that
@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV
@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV 26 күн бұрын
wish they would just do something with dissipation. make it less anit synergistic xD.
@defiantmars9910
@defiantmars9910 26 күн бұрын
I like what I'm seeing for the higher end Scholar, but I really hope SE goes back and improves SCH's earlier abilities and gives them some more damage tools. One bonus DoT every two minutes is okay, but a little more bite *somehow* in the kit would be nice.
@alanastevenson
@alanastevenson 26 күн бұрын
As a SCH main, the only thing I am not overly thrilled about is that Recitation and Deployment are no longer running the same timers. That was a very nice feature to be able to use during EW. I went back into Eden Savage recently and the amount of times I went to cast Recitation -> Deployment threw me off when I couldn't use Deployment lolol. SCH felt a LOT better in EW than ShB for me, so I am here for the (minimal) changes though.
@Wanderingplayer227
@Wanderingplayer227 26 күн бұрын
Excogitation needs a potency boost to 1,000 and a shield needs to be granted if the target falls below 30%
@Frostbyte115
@Frostbyte115 13 күн бұрын
Hell no, you're crazy.
@Wanderingplayer227
@Wanderingplayer227 12 күн бұрын
@@Frostbyte115 why?
@althyk
@althyk 26 күн бұрын
I hope the new skills and spells comes with VERY high pitched sound effects too!
@fairytamer8144
@fairytamer8144 27 күн бұрын
Scholar is on crack. Seraphism sounds disgustingly good.
@skeetzneph870
@skeetzneph870 25 күн бұрын
makes me a little scared at what they are planning for us to need that kind of power
@fairytamer8144
@fairytamer8144 25 күн бұрын
hehe, true. but tbh I am actually excited about this!
@DeaconStJohn-zi8db
@DeaconStJohn-zi8db 26 күн бұрын
Hi, can you please let me know if recitations works on manifestation ( adlo’s upgrade under 100 ability ) thanks
@sirius_moonlight
@sirius_moonlight 23 күн бұрын
Despite the ability name, Seraphism seems more like a WHM ability than any other class. SMN should have gotten a transformation too since it is also a shared job.
@varmintx0
@varmintx0 26 күн бұрын
SCH ended up being the healer I played most in EW, and I would argue that it is also the best one in the game right now, so maybe it doesn't need a whole lot more added to it. I am quite excited to see which healer wins my heart in DT...though it is probably not going to be WHM. :)
@drago1uk2000
@drago1uk2000 21 күн бұрын
So let me see, you use a dot after chain strat which a dot which doesn't even benefit from the crit boost from chain strat, amazing design there SE.
@Samus11111
@Samus11111 26 күн бұрын
wheeee.... I'm so excited.....
@SlyScyther
@SlyScyther 26 күн бұрын
I've been thinking about how people laughed at expedient for 2 years
@ImmaPandaRawr
@ImmaPandaRawr 13 күн бұрын
I don’t mind Seraphism. I think lore wise it fits well but the visual aesthetic is what throws people off. I do like the idea of them adding the ability to turn it off or on for those that aren’t not a fan.
@Vulcanfaux
@Vulcanfaux 26 күн бұрын
I would have preferred fairy wings and it making just my currently equipped gear all glowy. But oh well. Actually turning into titania would be amazing.
@adammalloy
@adammalloy 26 күн бұрын
I have a question as someone that hasn't played ff14 in a long time: did they ever explain why they don't give Scholar other interesting summons to base their kit around like Kirin or Siren and instead chose to have the player transform into an angel, losing all their individual cosmetics? Thanks for any informative responses.
@lucystoole4355
@lucystoole4355 26 күн бұрын
Did you try dissipation before popping seraphism? Would that still work? Worst cause we can still use fey illumination with it which is nice. Still it's nice ability to be able to do something about those multihit raid stacks and hp to 1 mechanics. All the other healers have way better tools to deal with those than SCH did in endwalker.
@DioDinero
@DioDinero 26 күн бұрын
Fairy has to be out to use seraphism, so you would effectively use dissipation first and then seraphism from what I can tell unless you ran into an “oh crap” amount of damage and needed to pump out instant party heals
@lucystoole4355
@lucystoole4355 26 күн бұрын
@@DioDinero ask gotcha thanks for the clarification!
@seaverino5346
@seaverino5346 26 күн бұрын
they're probably going to nerf seraphism like they did expedient when it launches because it'll be too good xD ..expedient is definitely my favorite skill , it can come in clutch in so many ways!
@DevilSeiji
@DevilSeiji 26 күн бұрын
I love seraphism. But I was really hoping for a more useful ogcd shield. Even just single target :/ Seraphism jei, Seraph nei
@Mimz670
@Mimz670 26 күн бұрын
ogcd sheild sounds great! Although its oddly a pure healer trait that one
@DevilSeiji
@DevilSeiji 26 күн бұрын
@@Mimz670 Sage. Haima, Panhaima, Holos
@lunarsuperstar
@lunarsuperstar 26 күн бұрын
sadly, still no way to spend gauge in different ways...
@RixsEmporium
@RixsEmporium 27 күн бұрын
Gameplay looks great but it aesthetically it looks like it's trying to be white mage with the transformation? Very strange, very powerfull though as usual.
@lushdontu4015
@lushdontu4015 27 күн бұрын
Not really? White robes don't belong to white mage
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
Why do people think that white robes = WHM? It is called Seraphim! When did you last look at Seraph? The costume is far from perfect and I would have chosen a different design if it was up to me, but it is clearly inspired by Seraph, and has nothing to do with White Mage.
@tmp5194
@tmp5194 22 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 probably because White Mage is one of if not THE most iconic job in the entire franchise and the most recognizable healer of the 4 we have, and all their artefact gear has been white robe based as well. If I saw white robes on a healer, I'm immediately gonna presume they're a White Mage first because its their iconic look.
@oszaszi
@oszaszi 8 күн бұрын
SE: Here, get more heal, also be able to rapid heal Also SE: you dont actually need to heal in most content tho. :3
@Zakon673
@Zakon673 26 күн бұрын
I remember when people were making fun of Expedient and that was the funniest shit to me as a WoW veteran. I can't imagine any ex-WoW players heard "Stampeding Roar except it lasts longer and has a mitigation buff" and thought it would be bad.
@lanah_tyra
@lanah_tyra 27 күн бұрын
And it has Bane in the skill name. Love!!!! My beloved ARR aoe dot is back baby
@esantiagomarrero
@esantiagomarrero 21 күн бұрын
I’m upset our main damage spell as healer remained the same… we need more damage tools
@EmpyreanDreamer
@EmpyreanDreamer 19 күн бұрын
Same. Until I see bane and shadow flare return I'm always going to be disappointed with SCH.
@youngimperialistmkii
@youngimperialistmkii 26 күн бұрын
Gonna finally pick this Job up, in DT.
@sakuram69
@sakuram69 27 күн бұрын
I really wanted Bane to come back. I… guess it kinda did?
@gazel7424
@gazel7424 27 күн бұрын
I also really wanted Miasma/MiasmaII to come back, but turns out it is Sage who gets to enjoy having 2 DoTs unfortunately
@sakuram69
@sakuram69 27 күн бұрын
@@gazel7424 yeah. I preferred when sch was the job with the autonomous fairy and we had to manage DoTs and spread them for big over time damage while throwing out barriers. Now it’s the job with the really minor fairy while we scramble to toss up barriers that are eliminated in a single smack and only one DoT and one spamable AoE in the middle of the enemies (aka, where all the incoming damage is).
@gazel7424
@gazel7424 27 күн бұрын
@@sakuram69 yeah, sometimes when I bring this up, ppl would say that the follow up DoT from Chain does more damage, but as a SCH main started the game from SB, I just wanted to have the gameplay of having multiple DoTs, not really about the total damage numbers
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 26 күн бұрын
@@gazel7424 "enjoy" A lot of us hate DoTs, you know...
@gazel7424
@gazel7424 26 күн бұрын
⁠@@SubduedRadical yea I do know, from seeing the Sage thread on JP forum, some were asking for making them can't coexist, tho it doesn't change the fact that I wish I could have it on Scholar, on a personally level
@Dae-Dae97
@Dae-Dae97 26 күн бұрын
I feel like sch is in to many directions. Like its kit is 3 different kits thay don't work together
@Cervarius_K
@Cervarius_K 27 күн бұрын
With the exception of the new DoT seeming boring as fuck, I'm extremely happy to see my one of- if not my absolute favourite job survived the changes. Praise be unto Energy Drain.
@wolfgangromine8341
@wolfgangromine8341 27 күн бұрын
the question that no one has answered yet about the Seraphism transformation is: does it change your outfit or does it actually change your race/model to that new one? in this vid you're a Viera but when you transform your ears disappear. Does it make you a human?
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
That would be lame if you get the same model regardless of your base appearance. Kinda takes me back to your Shrouded form on RPR, people don't really notice how your look gets affected in the flurry of effects and particles...
@lushdontu4015
@lushdontu4015 26 күн бұрын
You stay the same race. I saw it on a hrothgar character
@sir_squeeb
@sir_squeeb 25 күн бұрын
In a game all about character aesthetics and individual appearances, why would they make the ult transform you into a dollar-store angel skin....
@Gemini476
@Gemini476 27 күн бұрын
140 potency dot for 15s is 700 total potency, I think? That's pretty big.
@nachobear5100
@nachobear5100 26 күн бұрын
Dawntrail raids better break my spine like a kit-kat bar if they are giving scholar even more healing
@hobogray6385
@hobogray6385 22 күн бұрын
😂
@nozelxo6514
@nozelxo6514 26 күн бұрын
Hopefully we can turn off that Aesthetic thing
@thebluemarauder
@thebluemarauder 26 күн бұрын
Seraphism looks like a fantastic skill mechanically but my god does that skin change look HORRENDOUS imo. If it works for you great but that basically is the epitome of everything I try avoid with my healer glamour. I would be ok if it were just the wings ala whm, but replacing your whole outfit is just too much. Really hope they add a toggle to disable it or at least tone it down.
@Rewwgh
@Rewwgh 27 күн бұрын
Probably my favourite AF gear for Scholar so far. Everything else though? Nothing I am too hyped about. Seraphism just annoys me visually. Why couldn't the form have been like an Aethetic admiral's cloak that drapes from the shoulders? If it absolutely has to be a transformation, then giving something in Scholar's class fantasy sphere would make more sense.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
Seraph is not part of the SCH fantasy? From what I gathered, it is very much an emergency healing phase, so wouldn't it make sense that a SCH would turn to its angelic familiar for aid in a situation they did not expect?
@Rewwgh
@Rewwgh 26 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 All of that sounds like White Mage stuff. Why SCH gotta steal from them? Scholar focuses on prevention, that the party never gets to the point of an emergency. That is the core fantasy of a shield healer. Also because it has Instant casts, it can be used more as a mobility tool.
@lushdontu4015
@lushdontu4015 25 күн бұрын
​@@Rewwghangels have nothing to do with white mage. Rewatch a job quest or read the lore book. They way a scholar and white mages cast spells are entirely different
@Rewwgh
@Rewwgh 25 күн бұрын
@@lushdontu4015 Brother, go look at what White Mages did in Amdapor to counter the Voidsent. When that magic is taken to its extreme, it absolutely can have an angelic quality to it. As far as I know, there's close to zero lore on the Seraph for Scholar in the game. Since it's a Shadowbringers skill.
@lushdontu4015
@lushdontu4015 25 күн бұрын
@@Rewwgh they are golems infused with light magic. How are they angels?
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 27 күн бұрын
same for smn but I wanted them to remove energy drain/siphon and have Aetherflow deal damage total equivalent with fall off dmg for smn later on. the Energy actions just feel very off nowadays honestly. Seraphism while great effect, seems what WHM Temperance should have upgraded to, it's angelic and grants aoe regen. Very odd Is thematically lol.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
That's the thing, in this game, SCH has always been more thematically closer to angels than WHM is.
@HyouVizer
@HyouVizer 26 күн бұрын
@silvergrove8517 besides Seraph actions, thats it. it's been themed as a Strategist for a long while. Art of War Indomitability Deployment Tactics Dissipation Excogitation Chain Stratagem Recitation Protraction Expedient
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
@@HyouVizer of course, the main part of Scholar is being a field tactician, but that does not discount the fact that your familiars are essential to you being able to function. And what is the strongest manifestation of your familiar? It's Seraph. That is why Seraph is your capstone summon AND your limit break.
@lushdontu4015
@lushdontu4015 23 күн бұрын
​@HyouVizer you can be a tactician and utilize angel magics as well. Where in the lore does it say you can't?
@TheCuboneSwordsman
@TheCuboneSwordsman 26 күн бұрын
For every one complaining about the aesthetic change, think of it like this. It starts off as a student to military tactician. Now the angels have always technically been there, helping you, with the fairies essentially being lower form angels. Since your a military tactician… in times of war sometimes you need a miracle, in this case angel. At least that’s how I made sense of the evolution.
@Lucy-dg9en
@Lucy-dg9en 27 күн бұрын
lets go sch gang
@catfood4142
@catfood4142 25 күн бұрын
SCH weirdly just becomes closer and closer to WHM, when talk about SCH, everybody talks about its crit shield, but in reality in savages a lot good SCHs would use crit heal, as long as ppl don't die from incoming dmg, crit shield and crit heal does essentially the something. it is not me being greedy, but the reality; further more the class is historically being judged for eating its faeries for eatheral drain dps and leaving half of ur healing abilities disabled for a good 30seconds. I quit the job for the reason of A, I don't like hard casting GCD shields, ppl see your job signature plays of it but in reality the higher players don't. B, the greedy of needing to eating faeries for, again dps.... they just made GCD shields instant cast, and emergency tactics 1 second cd..........so they want SCH to play like WHM..spam gcds............ good job SE.
@mana-azir6808
@mana-azir6808 27 күн бұрын
o not an aoe chain strat...
@willymobile
@willymobile 27 күн бұрын
Perhaps just me but Seraphism doesn't actually seem too special relative to something like macrocosmos. It's still going to make you cast GCD heals which everyone's going to try to find a way around. Seems like another sacred soil unless there are frequent heal checks that require spamming hard casts like that. The Manifestation crit deploys are going to be hilariously huge though. Otherwise, job looks solid as always.
@NorthernLadMSP
@NorthernLadMSP 27 күн бұрын
I miss when SCH was fun. I hate the new angelic look they're forcing on to SCH, and some of the DPS skills feel so bleh to use.
@harv2703
@harv2703 27 күн бұрын
As a separate resource that becomes inaccessible by using some skills, i feel like the fairy should at least be controlled as a separate entity with no shared cooldowns and cast times with the character
@Bistai949
@Bistai949 27 күн бұрын
Not too excited by Seraphism. Aside from some of the identity issues people have with it, I find the idea of a GCD-centric buff on SCH really unappealing. With how healers operate in FFXIV, this skill only really shines in emergency situations in higher-end raids where you're basically forced to spam heals. After all, why would I use this when I can just get away with spamming broil and doing my basic healing gameplan? Compare this to something like, say, Temperance, where the skill is good in basically any situation thanks to it being passive (and the new temperance-upgrade skill is even an oGCD). in most of the game's content, Seraphism seems like it's basically going to end up being used for the passive regen and nothing else.
@bardvt4492
@bardvt4492 26 күн бұрын
Scholar has just always been perfect and now its gotten even better seraphism sounds fucking BROKEN
@ark5074
@ark5074 27 күн бұрын
Seraphism looks insane which is cool. Although seeing the new DOT is disappointing. Hope they make the DOT last a little longer.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 26 күн бұрын
I have no idea why Dissipation still exists, I hate it. I hate it. I hate it I hate it I hate it. I also hate Energy Drain. That still existing is ALSO annoying. That said, all the new stuff looks cool. I just don't have enough room on my crossbars for anything else. Maybe I'll just have to drop Dissipation and Energy Drain off to make room...or MORE macros...
@ShikiRen
@ShikiRen 26 күн бұрын
Seraphism sounds really good... now if only it stuck to , yknow, scholarly things and Fey instead of going angel. I really, really dislike this dip into WHM style and the look of the ability is awful. Just make it Feo Ul themed instead dangit!
@TsuchiGamer06
@TsuchiGamer06 26 күн бұрын
Seraphimism is a really nice "big red button" thats not "eating our fairy" lmao
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 26 күн бұрын
Exactly! I hate Dissipation. I've ALWAYS hated Dissipation. I remember when it first was added and you had to resummon Eos after it ended. I have always, and WILL always, HATE Dissipation. I want it removed from the game already or changed into Seraphism or something. Also dump Energy Drain while we're at it. It's a PATHETICALLY small difference for all the ink spilled over it.
@yanipheonu
@yanipheonu 26 күн бұрын
Transformations should be customizable/able to be turned off visually.
@veryseriousspy6975
@veryseriousspy6975 26 күн бұрын
I pray to Zodiark for this every single night since the live letter reveal.
@Tzimisce
@Tzimisce 26 күн бұрын
I continue to dislike the transition from fairy to angel (seraph) theme for Scholar. Also wish the aoe DoT wasn't tied to chain strat and had a shorter recast for use during dungeon pulls.
@iGREENification
@iGREENification 27 күн бұрын
Whose going to spam GCD heals like that yikes.
@gazel7424
@gazel7424 27 күн бұрын
The only downside of Seraphism is the outfit change
@musejuice
@musejuice 27 күн бұрын
yep. not maining SCH as of DT because of this. had a good run
@lagtastic7511
@lagtastic7511 27 күн бұрын
@@musejuice Same boat, it looks so bad. Never touching SCH again until its removed
@Chaotique0
@Chaotique0 27 күн бұрын
To each their own. To be honest that's what make me so excited for it, I love it ! But I can understand why
@1Meepman
@1Meepman 27 күн бұрын
I want the devs to explain why they couldn't just bring Bane and Miasma back. Why is the new dot locked behind Chain Strat? What's going to happen in double SCH comps? Was this done as an indirect nerf because god forbid the SCHs work together and layer Chain Strat? And wtf is Seraphism? Why are we turning into WHM? It's bad enough the demi summon (which is a mechanic even SMN players hate) sucks, both mechanically and thematically.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
In 14, SCH is and has always been thematically more aligned with angelic features than WHM. Can't argue with people's tastes in aesthetics, but white robes are not the property of White Mage, and angelic features are certainly less WHM's thing than SCH in this particular game.
@1Meepman
@1Meepman 26 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 Scholar's theme was always military tactician with a side of fairies; look at previous expansions and you'll see. Seraph was only seen in the LB3 until SHB when she became a demi summon. The white robe has always been the staple of WHM since, well, white magic. I want true tactical gameplay with the military aesthetic back, please and thank you.
@ashtoreth1095
@ashtoreth1095 26 күн бұрын
Seraph was also never really seen as an angel of any sort until they gave her a name that suggested it in ShB, which was where the angel themes really started. Until then the LB3 fairy was just a really glowy fairy. Scholar already had a very varied set of aesthetics in ARR--military tactician/medic with a heavy focus on biological warfare magic (poison and disease themed offensive spells and medicine themed healing spells) who also had a fairy companion. There was plenty of room to expand on any of those themes, but they have instead continually decided to split SCH off in even more directions, the angel transformation just being the biggest one yet. SCH just lacks any kind of cohesive aesthetic by this point, and is just a big mix of ideas all thrown together haphazardly, which is something that many players who really liked the original direction of the job are unhappy with.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
@@ashtoreth1095 what do you mean, "Seraph" was never seen as an angel? The name itself could not scream more angel. Also, as far as I know, the SCH LB3 has always been called "Angel Feathers" and the "really glowy fairy" always looked like a bigger fairy than Eos and Selene, with distinct angel wings, so unless that changed at some point, what you say make no sense. Also it may be a me thing, but I really do not see the clash in aesthetic there. You, as the Scholar, are very knowledgeable about biology and military tactics and employ that knowledge to its maximum, supported by the supernatural help of your familiars. To me it makes sense that as you grow in power, your tactics become more effective but the raw power of your familiar is also expanded.
@ashtoreth1095
@ashtoreth1095 26 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 I'm pretty sure Seraph never had a name until Shadowbringers, which was when they started leaning into the angel stuff. From ARR to Stormblood there was basically no association with this angelic imagery except very vaguely in the LB3. So when they decided to start adding all these holy/angelic effects to the main job abilities, it naturally felt very similar to WHM which had already been getting a ton of "holy" effects for several expansions, even if its first truly "angelic" visual effect came at the same time (Temperance's wings). I did forget the LB3 name though, since that doesn't come up often. But even then, it was an outlier in SCH's design for multiple expansions. It was never a core part of it like light/holy magic and imagery is for WHM.
@jaypro6269
@jaypro6269 27 күн бұрын
Why is Dissipation even still a thing. Seraphism may look odd, but it fits more with the theme of SCH, by not removing the faerie.
@seaverino5346
@seaverino5346 26 күн бұрын
extra dps lol. i dissipation during ultimates all the time lol
@jaypro6269
@jaypro6269 25 күн бұрын
@@seaverino5346 if they leaned into it being more of a DPS tool I'd be all for it. But they are trying so hard to make it a healing tool. Why not give it something similar to what they did with WHM and Presence of Mind. Lean into the DPS SE, not against it.
@snowsoldier413
@snowsoldier413 27 күн бұрын
I wish he had shown the look of Seraphism more closely, and also, if it changes or not depending on race or gender. Thats said, very cool skill. Since playing XVI I actually was like "Man I wish scholar could semi-prime" and they actually did lmao. Kinda wish the glamor itself was a little cooler? But it's still really sick all the same. Makes SCH use summons in a different way from SMN.
@Hitsugix
@Hitsugix 27 күн бұрын
would have been nice to not having to call the fairy every time after dying. but yeah..
@veryseriousspy6975
@veryseriousspy6975 26 күн бұрын
Dear SE. Please let us turn off/glam the chicken mode. This skill looks extremely fun to use and powerful, but I don't want my half-naked hot muscular Roe daddy to turn into an animorph white mage nun. This makes me hesitant to put it on my hotbar. Thank you in advance. Yours truly, Scholar main that cares about the aesthetic of my character a bit too much.
@ccw139
@ccw139 23 күн бұрын
IM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU BROTHER. I hope to GOD someone makes a mod for that immediately like they did with reaper enshroud.
@NEETmoreAnime
@NEETmoreAnime 23 күн бұрын
I'm not digging the transformation at all. Also why would you want another DoT in the current meta? And why the heck didn't they change Energy Drain? Why would you want a skill with such a low potency that gives the Scholar HP...instead of MP.. I don't know man Scholar feels like it doesn't really fit in. Great in a sense if you want less hominisation, but the job just does not feel good imo.
@Joshua-xh6bm
@Joshua-xh6bm 27 күн бұрын
My problem with Scholar is that it's messy and has a very obvious identity crisis where its aesthetics are concerned and yes, that does matter to me. It's the only healer I don't like to play. Somehow in spite of being reworked every single expansion, Astrologian feels more cohesive and consistent both in terms of gameplay and aesthetics than Scholar does.
@gilmoreja
@gilmoreja 27 күн бұрын
I really hate the Seraphism transformation. The effects of the skill make me go, "Wow that sounds awesome!" but, despite that, the way it changes my character just makes me want to play a different healer instead.
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica 22 күн бұрын
Energy Drain doesn't feel good to use, still. If I'm drowning in Aetherflow stacks in aoe, 100 potency on one enemy while Art of War/II does 150-180 on *each* enemy makes Energy Drain feel like a waste. Also, I think every SCH main forgets that Energy Drain even recovers hp because the amount is so small it might as well not exist. I daresay it competes with SMN's Physick in terms of healing usefulness.
@Shizukanexen
@Shizukanexen 27 күн бұрын
I really wish they didn't make Seraphism transform you. I already didn't like it for RPR, but it was baked into the job so I was willing to forgive it. I hope they don't do that for more jobs in the future.
@ich3730
@ich3730 18 күн бұрын
The wings made me laugh, thats a New level of lazy for the devs. Its just a fashion acc xDDD imagine making a unique model, something modders have done for years at this point. But no, we get a reskin of an item...
@MasterOssy
@MasterOssy 27 күн бұрын
Holy crap, SCH sounds ridiculous lmao. Oh man, I expect nerfs when this launches.
@aggrievedeye
@aggrievedeye 27 күн бұрын
Seeing a lot of players really complaining about the new healing skill thats basically benediction on crack. Scholars just got Lightspeed with a passive regen for 20 seconds. you just can't win with these players man. i wonder if these players actually do hard content or are just complaining to just complain.
@silvergrove8517
@silvergrove8517 26 күн бұрын
To be frank, people seem to just not vibe with the aesthetic of the skill, not really its function. I think SCHs by now should know better than to trash a skill before getting their hands on it after Expedient. But hey, if people don't like how it looks, they don't like how it looks.
@veryseriousspy6975
@veryseriousspy6975 26 күн бұрын
@@silvergrove8517 Expedient's reveal video didn't show anything, just a Lala running 2 feet. We had literally no info whatsoever about what it actually does, so when you had all these flashy combos and animations for every other job, and then this very weird short clip for scholar, it was hard to not meme on Expedient. I blame the way it was presented. This is a different issue, people love the skill but hate scholar's identity crisis and glam removal.
@princessrayneshia1293
@princessrayneshia1293 27 күн бұрын
I sometimes question if the devs play SCH. Unless fight design and mana is changed i don't think I'll even have seraphism on my bars because that is one of the most useless healing cooldowns I've ever seen. Using recitation into deploy already covers the vast majority of major damage spikes without burning through your mp like crazy. It's feels like the devs just copied rapture from wow without understanding the reason rapture is run isn't for the instant cast shields it's because it allows a disc priest to quickly apply attoment to a large group. One day the XI class dev will come back and turn SCH into a real tactian like it was in XI i hope lol
@althyk
@althyk 26 күн бұрын
Omh, real wings, not that ugly white mage light wings!
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