Confederate Flags Explained - American Artifacts

[@og-greenmachine8623]

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[@awpy4922]

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[@ryanunknownbtb5266]

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[@user-ec7ex1xr1u]

@@ryanunknownbtb5266 or is it?

[@dondidykes6664]

I wish that information like this could be put on national TV so any questions could be answered and all the miss information could be put down

[@LordRothschild666]

Tell-lie-vision will give you the information you need. So will the internet. 🤔 Right???

[@nandy1256]

Fakeness of heroes here are getting exposed in the recent pandemic.

[@ThatDudeMidnight]

“As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior coloured race. As a national emblem, it (the confederate flag) is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race” - William T. Thompson, designer of the Confederate Flag.

[@savagegaming4133]

What misinformation the war was fought because the north were trying to take stop their slavery there is no misinformation at all the civil war was about slavery and slave right all this video says is how the flags design cane about not its intended purpose

[@courtneyross7879]

What mis-infirmation?

[@chargerz2204]

Im Hispanic, born and raise in South Texas, now live in Oklahoma.. I've always LOVED that confederate flag.. specially loved how it looks on the (69 Charger) General Lee .. but .. never .. never felt like a sign of raicism or hate, much less slavery .. ppl just need to get educated on the main purpose of the flag, .. things are getting ridiculously out of hand ..

[@Gasolineworld]

I could not agree more! I think of it as just another sign of freedom. The south felt they were mistreated so they wanted their "freedoms" back so they did what the colonists did. The North even owned slaves and after some time during the war they then decided to make it all about stopping slavery.

[@rodjohnson3045]

@@Gasolineworld So slavery wasn't wrong then?

[@lowlow8000]

Love that flag or not, the kkk still don't like and accepts you

[@chargerz2204]

See that's the problem with society today .. misinterpretation of the flag, and it's purpose with organization like the one just mentioned above, .. that's exactly the reason it's being put to rest cus this type of organizations are giving it the wrong meaning ..

[@adolfiehillarious6076]

I flew'm on 55 chevrolets! That's a symbol of a people hombre, an righteous authority of a Devine origin High Regaurds Bro!

[@jeffsnider7842]

Men don’t get angered by things....just the view they choose to take of things.

[@diamondluca1]

Your spot on, it seems as though people have reverted back to their perspective corners in America, and the hell with people who doesn't look like them.

[@jamesfrye6389]

@@diamondluca1 no he's not look up the meaning of the Confederate flag the original creator set in his own words The White stripes represent the superiority in the power of the white race over the colored race that some races s***

[@locuscades1906]

@@jamesfrye6389 The South likely expected the entire world to converge on them once they freed the slaves. Why would an enture world ran by slavery be okay with a whole nation freeing slaves? I suspect it was a concern for the well being of the fabrication of true freedom. I could be wrong, but I dont claim to KNOW the exact intention of every single man in the south like you might.

[@jamesfrye6389]

@@locuscades1906 first of all I'm not saying I know the intention of every man of the South butt understand people use that flag as heritage but why use a hate symbol AS heritage if you use it a hate symbol is heritage and a person knows it's a hate symbol then they are racist

[@locuscades1906]

@@jamesfrye6389 How do you know its a hate symbol when you JUST said you dont know the intention of them? You dont know that the supremacy he spoke of was heavenly ordained? That means temporary. That means you aren't born with it. It means the kingdom comes to you to demand something of you, and that something was to keep slaves under their wing that one day they would be freed from the bondage of the rest of the world. Is it so hard to see that perhaps the south believed that the world would attack and kill them and the slaves anyway had they freed them in such time? The left slams Lincoln for not actually freeing slaves, but slams the south that KNEW that the emancipation proclamation wouldn't truly free the people of America from slavery elsewhere or even here.

[@tncooks]

If we don’t know and remember our past we are doomed to repeat it.

[@Eevvvvaaaaa]

If you want to remember the past go to a museum

[@TheTeatimecrumpet]

We should never forget the Civil War so we are not doomed to repeat it. However, we should not glorify literal enemies of the United States of America. The statues have no context to the death and destruction that came from an open rebellion against the US by the confederates. That flag as a representation of the Confederate States of America was and will always be against The United States of America.

[@lestat1591]

meowmeow we have the right to glorify whoever we like too.

[@TheTeatimecrumpet]

@@lestat1591We sure do...on private land. It's sill illogical to be proud of the confederacy and the United States of America. It'd almost be akin to flying a Nazi flag and an Israeli flag...you could do it,sure...

[@georgelux126]

@@lestat1591 And who you choose to glorify tells people everything they need to know about you. By all means put a confederate flag on your Truck and Nazi Symbology in your home. But it has know place in government buildings or public parks.

[@Jarred-J254]

A few years back I thought the Stars and Bars flag was aimed more at being based off the USA flag and the 2 red bars and the white bar represented the states that were part of the original 13 colonies that were part of the CSA like how the 13 stripes on the US flag represent the original 13 colonies, but then I remembered that 4 states from the 13 colonies were part of the Confederacy, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia.

[@eaglechawks3933]

In 1913, at the 50th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg, Union and Confederate Veterans got together, shook hands, and remembered old comrades. If THEY could get over the civil war, then we should have no problems getting over it as well. It is history, our history, and the idea that some people have the right to destroy that history is just plain wrong. Tomorrow, protesters have promised to tear down the Emancipation Statue in Lincoln Park in Washington DC. That statue was paid for by freed slaves who wanted to honor Lincoln in 1876, and Frederick Douglass himself did the dedication. Nobody has the right to take that away from us - it is OUR history.

[@androidphone3498]

What history keeping slaves what history Civil War because confederate wanted to keep human slavery and embarrassment to the United States flag ? Think how many soldiers fault for the American flag that stands today ! That took out the confederate union that flag only last how long again ?? And you have the nerve to call that history? You should worry about our brothers and sisters that are fighting for the American flag because that is history!!

[@skizecraft]

@@androidphone3498 no matter how much some people wanna censor history, it's never gonna change it. We need to preserve our history, learn from it, from ALL sides, and better ourselves to fix mistakes of our past

[@jessicaharewood338]

While you are trying to fix it you are still changing it. So basically you want to change history no one want to censor your your history. Tearing down a statue is not censoring your history u don’t learn about ur history by looking at a statue . You learn through reading they should tear it down it’s meaningless

[@LoneWolf-je9vr]

@@jessicaharewood338 Why don't we destroy all of monuments there are ??? I mean , they're all kinda meaningless right ??? What about tourism and people that have paid to be there taking selfies huh ?! If it brings money it will stay , simple as that ...

[@LoneWolf-je9vr]

@Tyrone Ferguson I'm totally , completely and entirely against destroying any monuments dude ...

[@robertpayne2717]

No Mention of the Bonney Blue Flag

[@pipestud3corncobpuffer785]

Dirty little secret: the U.S. was founded as a condeferacy. Hence the Articles of Confederation. Ever hear of the country The Republic of West Florida. Very interesting part of Southern history that nobody talks about. To understand the Southern Cause you have to study The Republic of West Florida and the War of 1812 (which resulted in the Hartford Convention).

[@waltercooper7199]

I did learn alot about florida especially when it was a mixed race state around the time during the spanish invasion there are documentarys of it

[@VictorLepanto]

It is called the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union. We were founded as a PERPETUAL UNION. If you want to consult that document you should consult the article of it that forbids any constituent states forming any "confederacies" any states part of that perpetual union w/o consulting all the states of the union. it also forbids any attempt to alter the union w/o consulting all members of the union. Under the clear language of the AoC&PU secession & confederation were clearly illegal. Under the current U.S. Constitution we only have a "more perfect union," which means a more complete union. What is more then perpetual?

[@VictorLepanto]

@Warren Take that point up w/ Jeff Davis, he is the one who did so, when he fired on Federal territory & Federal troops. Invading & stealing that territory & property. Actually this was done to multiple forts & other facilities throughout the South. Most of these violent seizures occurred under Buchanan, so they were a fete accompli under Lincoln. It was the Confederacy which wanted a war & deliberately provoked one to seize territory. Remember, in the 1860 election, the issue had NOT been whether or not slavery would be allowed to continue in the Southern states but whether it would be EXTENDED into the Western territories. After the planters, who pretended to secede, set up their sham confederacy; they dared to claim the territories West Texas as their own. The cynical purpose of the Confederacy was to seize new territory for themselves so as to expand their economic interests (i.e. slavery) into those territories. The Secessionists knew they couldn't get those territories w/o war so they deliberately provoked one to get them. As for "declaring war on your own citizens," talk to George Washington about that. He made war on Loyalist American troops in the Revolution & during the Shays Rebellion, & during the Whiskey Rebellion after the U.S. Constitution was ratified & Washington was already president. That's three times he made war on his "own citizens." Lee would have found it enlightening to talk about discuss what the Federal Gov't is allowed to do to enforce the law & Federal supremacy. The nature of a gov't is to establish laws & to enforce them on those who will submit to those laws. It is called law & order. Any violent lawless person, like Jeff Davis, who disrupts the states lawful order is subject to the forceful application of those laws. It is called the police power. The Confederacy was a lawless conspiracy, it is that simple.

[@VictorLepanto]

@WarrenI'm not the one trying to over complicate things. That's the slavery apologist's job, not mine. Those who seek to excuse the actions of the slave holding planter class's love to say such things as, "The war wasn't about slavery...uh...it was about tariffs...& uh...states rights...yeah that's the ticket...so Lincoln & the Union just use slavery to distract from what they were rrrreallly about." All nonsense, America was divided 4/ her 1st 80 yrs by planters trying to protect they petty privileges @ the expense of the rest of the country. Only about 10 yrs earlier that same class had dragged this country into a squalid little war of aggression against Mexico to advance their nasty economic interest in slavery. They thought they could give the rest of their country the same treatment the dished out on Mexico, provoke an aggressive war against another power so as to illicitily snatch some Western territory. I dare you or any other CSA apologist to explain to me on what possible grounds they could territories which were part of a Union they had supposedly left. New Mexico, Arizona & California were U.S. territories. By claiming them they were threatening the Union w/ war. This claim proves the CSA intended aggression from the beginning. Many of the seceeding states specifically mention Western territories as justifying their secession. I submit the CSA intended war from the beginning & would have provoked it under any circumstance, prove me wrong.

[@VictorLepanto]

@Dingle Berry I appreciate your comments. I have always appreciated the South. It has always been our nation's most creative part. Why does our nations most original music, art, writing come from the South? It has something to do w/ rootedness I think. Yankee culture was retarded from its beginning by the legacy of Puritanism. We as Americans owe our love of Christmas to the South. The seed of Southern culture was Jamestown, obviously founded under King James (of Bible fame) & thus preceded the cultural revolution caused by Cromwell. Christmas was still a problem for many in New England as late as the Revolution. It is strange w/ Southern Baptist preachers spouting about "The reason for the Season." The U.S. has needed the South to keep her grounded, in the face of crazy radical social reformers in every age. Remember, Lincoln was born in Kentucky, which was formerly part of Virginia. Lincoln & Davis were born only a few miles from each other. Lincoln was descended from original Virginia settlers as much as was Lee. Best things always come from the South.

[@kerryowen8984]

People are ignorant, saying it represents racism. All that say that need to go educate themselves, and stop disgracing it.

[@praiseworthysupremegod2828]

Same can be said about the swatstika

@Gregory Emmanuel pst...protip: symbols are subjective and their meaning changes with the individual. You want to be ignorant...that's on you

[@frankpaya690]

@ we have a plethora of ignorant people, that's what makes up antifa, They're Not America's intellectuals, they're America's excrement.

[@fabioartoscassone9305]

@@praiseworthysupremegod2828 the swastika endured millennia, the losers' rag just 4.5 years.

[@sionnachmacbradaigh1010]

Oh sweet Jesus. Of course it represents racism and white supremacy. That's why Georgia and Mississippi added the Confederate battle flag to their state flags following the war: to terrify black people and promote segregation. Why don't you stop reading those old history books produced by the United Daughters of the Confederacy?

[@jackp.richardson6415]

Heritage, not hate. Southern pride, not white pride. Dixie rebel, not the KKK.

[@drejackson4882]

Funny how it is is flown during cross burnings and hate marches

[@jackp.richardson6415]

@@drejackson4882 So? It was also flown above tanks during the Battle of the Bulge, and flew above Shuri Castle when we took Okinawa. I also have one in front of my house and I can give two fucks what you think.

[@unrulytdott2824]

A simple of southern pride?? What pride the south lost the war😂😂

[@jackp.richardson6415]

@@unrulytdott2824 You don't need to win a war to have pride in your heritage.

[@unrulytdott2824]

Jack P. Richardson so i have a question. You don’t think the confederate flag is treasonous to the current American government and stands for racism and oppression?

[@gsummit1]

In my 71 years I've passed by many flags. Generally they don't cross my mind, I just look and go on with my trip. The part that upsets me most about removing the flag is that I've never liked someone pointing their finger in my face and telling me that I have to do something.

[@zeytountsi6109]

Nobody is telling you to do anything

[@gsummit1]

@@zeytountsi6109 Not yet.

[@olsonbryce777]

In that case I'm going to raise some nazi soldier statues because im German and it's part of my history and nobody can tell me what I can do

[@gsummit1]

@@olsonbryce777 Some people have always been, "sucking from the hind tit," and will never understand what it means to be independent.

[@annajames4247]

@@gsummit1 Actually, you are being told what to do every day. You are being told to wear a mask, social distance and stay in your home and wait for a unsafe/untested vaccine to be developed. All over a fake pandemic. This whole COVID-19 BS is a move towards absolute power and control by the government and Trump was selected to lead the cause.

[@michaelw.urbansr.8617]

Well i recently had come back from two trips. One was too West Virginia and the other PA and visited areas of Civil War battles such as Gettysburg and a few places in W.V. that were not considered an invasion but ,liberation of W.V. from the Union. I found the history quite interesting once i got there. As well as the history of Gettysburg and the surrounding area. Although i plan to buy land in W.V. rather then P.A. i do like visiting P.A.'s historical places! I purchased the Confederacy's 2nd national Flag ,hat pin and was trying to figure out where to place it on my hat? I already have an American flag on my right side so that anyone looking at me see's it on their left as its suppose to me. I also have a "dont tread on me" hate pin on the opposite side. So do i put the Rebel battle flag pin just behind and next to the U.S. flag on my hat??

[@TheArchighves]

Put the American flag in the front, and the battle flag on the right.

[@MeghanBrowning-cy3tm]

In 1948, the Dixiecrat party adopted the Confederate flag as its party flag. The Dixiecrat party stood for segregationalism. The short-lived party chose the flag as its symbol because the party stood for the state’s rights principles that the Confederate states stood for in the first place.

[@Dragging79]

So I'm what is known as a damn yankee. I was born in Massachusetts but lived in the south. I don't consider myself a southerner. Just someone with a traveler's soul. My father retired in NC after 20 plus years in the Marine corps. That's how I ended up living in the south.I've thought a lot of the civil war and what it was about. Some people say states rights and some people say slavery. To me the dates don't match up as far as Lincoln is concerned. The whole emancipation proclamation. But in Confederate documents slavery is mentioned a lot. As a veteran I try to think how it would be like to live in that time frame. I think if the war was over slavery, why would I fight for someone else's right to own a human being? But I also realize most people in the south couldn't even afford shoes, let alone slaves. But people did volunteer and people were drafted as well on both sides. It was pretty obvious that I could never understand why people chose the sides they did. I never grew up in that time period. I hear and see lots of people arguing about it the Confederacy which is good. It means people are in gauged on the subject. What I didn't understand is people all up in arms about something that no one alive today had a damn thing to do with. If slavery from the 1800's brothers them so much. Why aren't they doing something about slavery that's happening right in front of our faces? There are more slaves today than in recorded history. Still selling slaves on the ivory coast in Africa. Human trafficking world wide. Yes even in our wonderful USA. Lots of sex trafficking and yes. Trafficking is slavery. You'd be surprised by how many people argue against it. I couldn't careless about the Confederacy other than learn from our countries mistakes. The monuments mean nothing to me. What little family I had here fought for the union.We need to focus on raising our children to treat people right. Black,white, gay,straight. Muslim, Jews. Everyone. Get the hate out of your heart. Life is too short.

[@jmninternational1116]

Richard Morin well said.

[@Dragging79]

@@jmninternational1116 thank you.

[@yayyay2194]

The first National Flag looks like a similar modification of the flag used by the Continental Army dating from 1776 to 1781 , in their battle with the British ..

[@robschannel4512]

Your right, it looks very much like it.

[@xander9564]

The US flag, in turn, is based on the flag of the British East India Trading Company -- while the flag of Hawaii is a copy of it.

[@michaelcrockette8694]

Tommy g. I’m sure that u and your friends are probably good people and maybe the black friends that u have may not know the full history of the flag, but it is a fact that it has been and is today used by the KKK and Skinheads as their symbol of hatred. (don’t go by me google it) and is for black people that know their history a reminder of a very ugly and painful past.

[@yayyay2194]

@@michaelcrockette8694 Are you or do live in the South , sir ?? I am born and raised Southern ... With all do respect ... I did Google both the symbolism of the Confederate Flag and symbolism of the KKK. No where did I find in the Confederate Flag history , of the KKK flying or using the flag for Hatred ... you have probably just seen that in movies ... . The KKK originates from The South, so the Confederate Flag represents them as Southern Citizens is the only meaning for that ...They created their own flag titled The Blood Drop Flag dating back to the founding of their group lead by Gen. Nathan Bedford Forest ... Their symbolism included Acronyms for their creed , hand signs , robes and the burning of crosses ... Their group was made up of Democrats executing hate crimes against African Americans, yes , but also White Republicans... so they weren't all about Race but Politics... The KKK today is very slim few and far between ... kinda outdated group , if you ask me ..... Skinheads primarily use The Swastika Symbol of Hitler ... they executed hate crimes against all races , religions , gender , sexual preferences ...for their own agenda that goes far from just White Supremacy but just unwelcoming of anyone different from them ..... never seen a skinhead with a Confederate Flag .. The history of the Confederate Flag is , in fact , a battle flag. It represents The Southern States during the Civil War ... The only reason people associate it with Racism is because the South had Slavery ... But , in fact , The North had Slavery as well ... at that time , Slavery was more prominent in The South , yes , because crop production was booming more than textiles in The North so the South needed more help . ...and in fact , if it wasn't for The South , the North wouldn't have ate .. President Lincoln who abolished slavery , did in fact , own slaves and even fathered 4 children with his slave mistress's ... The foolish people who want to use our flag in their fight and protest as their symbol to promote their opinion is what is truly destroying the flag's meaning ... The Confederate Flag , The Southern Flag , Our Flag .. itself , is and has never been a Racist or Hateful Flag ... It represents Southern Heritage and the South's presence in the War ... that is all..

[@michaelcrockette8694]

don’t really want 2 get into a back & forth with this. I don’t have 2 b from the South 2 know it’s history. read The Confederate Flag is a racist symbol. Just ask the KKK. Naomi Shavin July 1, 2015. (you seem like a good person who is proud of your Southern heritage, I respect that)

[@carolmoran5788]

There's no explanation needed you have the right to wave your flag if you're a descendant of our Confederate Brothers who fought just as hard died just as much as our Yankee Brothers nobody will change history hang on your flag and be proud of your ancestors just like I'm proud of mine Never Surrender it is just a symbol of our past with historical value

[@sionnachmacbradaigh1010]

Wow Sherman really beat your ancestors like a drum. Must be embarrassing to have such ineffective ancestors.

[@ohyeahthatsright3155]

Thank you for the presentation. Knowledge is power.

[@anonymousneighbor1469]

Hey Dean, why would you leave out these facts? ... William Tappan Thompson, the creator of the 2nd and 3rd flags, wrote this: "As a people, we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race: a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause." Tappan also wrote this, "Such a flag would be a suitable emblem of our young confederacy and sustained by the brave hearts and strong arms of the south, it would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG." "White Man's Flag!" There you have it - clear-cut, sufficient, directly to the point ... however you wish to use the term "blatant." Now, what's the problem America? Why does this country still support a flag that represents hate, oppression, and attempted genocide of races other than white? Why do Americans, who wish to represent their family ancestors in the South, just wave the 1st version of the flag (I could even somewhat go along with that)?

[@bassmangotdbluz3547]

Wasn't the Battle Flag of The Army of Northern Virginia also referred to as "The Southern Cross" or "St. Andrew's Cross"?

[@rpm1796]

Yes it was...Just ask Jeb Stuart..a Scottish American.

[@PharaohShishak70]

Virginia was in the Confederate States too and had the CSA's capital city in Richmond Virginia! What's your argument?

[@exceedinc]

Who cares

[@williamroyt1296]

O Norwood Virginia was also split state, like West Virginia some were for the south some against, just like Kansas and Missouri, both the south and north had marauders company in them states that would clash ,raid, rape and murder citizens if they didn’t follow aside, it had been said one week you d get hit my marauders from the south following week the north. I think the worst state this was happening in was Kansas and Missouri, worst of it was they’d come and take the men folk as young as 15 and force them to serve in the army depending on who came first north or south so mothers would hide there young men.

[@oldtyres36]

The southern cross is an Aussie rebel flag.

[@davidbalnaves2458]

More people need to hear this

[@einefreunde]

Thanks for posting

[@seanh6097]

Its better when explaining, especially history, that names or organizations are named rather than simply referencing them as 'They' all the time, WTH is 'They'?!

[@VictorLepanto]

It is a plural 3rd person subjective pronoun. Your welcome, I'm glad I could help.

[@davidjenkins899]

Those who forget history are doomed to relive it. The Civil War was not about slavery, Lincoln added that late in the war. It’s amazing to me how many people don’t know the history they comment about.

[@sionnachmacbradaigh1010]

The Civil War was certainly about slavery - southern leaders never made any attempt to deny this. You need to stop reading those old history books produced by the Daughters of the Confederacy.

[@davidjenkins899]

Well I’ll agree to disagree. Information sources certainly swing both directions. It’s up to us to decide which sources we believe. As for the Daughters of Confederacy, certainly their books have good information but also incomplete and some incorrect. We are still learning 150 years later.

[@edgarsorto7566]

If you believe that you’re an idiot.

[@graterdeddly9527]

@@sionnachmacbradaigh1010Jefferson Davis specifically denied that the war seeking independence for the south was about slavery. He said it was about federal intrusion into their affairs broadly speaking. Read the interview he gave to The NY Times during the war, in 1864, not after the war was over. The Civil War was about a lot of things, slavery was wrapped up in the complexity of it, economic factors certainly being important.

[@lynneburridge9082]

Thank you for your infor on the Confederate Flag. I read extensively on the history of the Civil War n was quite heart rending but at the same time fascinating. Their descendants are English but falls heavily on the Irish side n Scots. Like Australians descendants of British convicts but of Irish descents n Scots as lots of their surnames begins with MCs like McKenzie n O'Shannasie ect etc. I had always avoided telephone Directory Listing: searching for friends numbers in the past as it was likely to lead to heart attack. O'BRIEN forget it i want to preserve my sanity. Thank you again n look forward to your next History lesson.

[@abrahammorrison6374]

It is the Cross of Saint Andrew or a saltire.

[@Padraig50]

It has nothing to do with your English flag

[@johnyaudes3062]

Don't forget about the Bonnie Blue Flag....which was the first Confederate flag. It came from the Republic of Northwest Florida and was taken to Montgomery Alabama when the Confederacy was formed. By the way it was one white star on a sea of blue. And thank you for stating the so called today Confederate flag is truthfully the Navy Jack and NEVER flew over the ground. It was flown by naval ships.

[@paulmarsh9905]

Thank you

[@williamanderson5437]

The Bonnie Blue Flag had a Texan variation where the letters T.E.X.A.S where between the spikes of the Star. Bonnie Butler -, the Child in 'A Civilization Gone With The Wind' (full title of the Margaret Mitchell book), was named after the flag.

[@sallybrown1459]

We all lost that war, NORTH and SOUTH.

[@crazboy84]

African Americans would disagree with you.

[@sallybrown1459]

@@crazboy84Have AFRICAN AMERICANS ever paid their gratitude to the UNION SOLDIERS that fought,died, and came home in pieces for freeing them?

[@crazboy84]

@@sallybrown1459 Have you?

[@sallybrown1459]

@@crazboy84 Several family members were decorated UNION SOLDIERS. YES WE HAVE.

[@crazboy84]

@@sallybrown1459 In no way shape or form does service of a distant ancestor mean you yourself did a damn thing. I had family on both sides of WW2, does that somehow make me a nazi by your logic?

[@gregbiggs5674]

The First National flag, while being replaced in May 1863 as the political flag of the Confederacy, was still used in battle until the end of the war. I know of examples taken in 1863, 1864 and 1865 including at Appomattox. I have done a serious study of Civil War flags for 35 years and have these flags documented.

[@leondillon8723]

2:02)The 3rd National Flag was also called The Blood Stained Banner.

[@LordOfNothingham]

Shows really how clueless people are about the history that they protest against. I’ll admit I was educated here as well.

[@sionnachmacbradaigh1010]

So this flag isn't a symbol of racism and hatred. William Thompson, who designed it said: "As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race" and "As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of the superior race."

[@LordOfNothingham]

Sionnach MacBradaigh meanwhile in 1776 the constitution was penned saying that all men were created equal yet that wasn’t the case either as even white non English speaking European immigrants were discriminated against, well into the 20th century. Discrimination happens world wide. It’s just magnified in the United States because we have the most diverse population in the world.

[@southernlogger2307]

Sionnach MacBradaigh to people who know history outside of what public schools teach no it’s not hatred and racism the war started in almost exactly the way it did in 1776 Lincoln added that in to justify invading the south

[@LordMephilis]

@@sionnachmacbradaigh1010 You say that, and you say he designed the "Confederate Flag" These days when you say Confederate flag you are usually referring to the Southern Cross, or the battle flag of the army of Northern Virginia. He did not design that flag, if you bother to actually look up your facts, you will see he designed the stainless banner.

[@5ithofnov159]

@@LordOfNothingham you've clearly never been to brazil

[@tommycollier9172]

I didn't know, Thanks for sharing.

[@dolobrolic6066]

I actually like the confederate flag. It looks awesome......on the roof of a 69 charger.........it’s just the type of people waving it around.......not very welcoming......🤔

[@dolobrolic6066]

Chad Langlois ..........it is what it is........prove people wrong. 😕😉

[@luckylindy1776]

Saw it in person in 2016 - - Sperryville VA The great Rebel Yell Charger!!!

[@dolobrolic6066]

Billy TK so........it still kicks ass!!! Yeeeeehaaawwww!!!!!

[@jeffsnider7842]

Why?

[@anomalyevolution40]

What type of people....??? Do you also think all Asians have small PP? Do you think all blacks love fried chicken? Do you think all whites are privileged? Do you imagine only Hispanics harvesting crops? Point is I'm glad you like the flag but not everyone who waves it is trashy.

[@kennkoala]

The Federal or Union flags, did they retain the number of stars for the full count of states or did they remove 11 representing the Confederates?

[@s0515033]

Union never recognized the independence of the traitors, so nothing really should have changed.

[@danielwade6066]

The rectangular design is the Tennessee naval jack

[@anthonyneal2038]

Telling the truth about the situation.

[@anthonyneal2038]

The South had slavery while the Northern states highly favored slave labor Profits of Black Africans U.S.A forced labour. Both side are guilty working Economic conditions and forced labor. While at the shame time immigrants suffered cheap low wages fo 14 hours a day with only Sunday off. War with the Native American Indian culture continues on during Md after the American civil war 1861-65.

[@keithbrooks9183]

The cross bars was adopted by the KKK. Like he stated it was never used in battles and it was however Virginia’s states flag only in the corner.

[@keithbrooks9183]

Michael Ward my point is that it was adopted by the KKK and most paintings you see about the Civil War it shows them carrying that flag in battle. It is a racist flag it stands for whites supremacy.

[@goosebumps2555]

@@keithbrooks9183 the kkkk carried the America flag.. easy to look up

[@t.r.campbell6585]

I was aware of this fact as are most intelligent people who cherish history. This is why I just absolutely outraged when clueless people refer to the Confederate battle flag or the Naval Jack is the confederate flag. They have no clue.

[@olsonbryce777]

Whatever

[@t.r.campbell6585]

Bryce Olson Whatever? One should strive to be precise and accurate. One should also be ready to admit when they are wrong. Study of the constitution, Be a student of history and learn why things are done the way they are. Thanks for your post.

[@gorillaump5869]

You don't sound very intelligent....

[@t.r.campbell6585]

Gorilla UMP Perhaps not. There are a lot of other people out there much smarter and more intelligent than me. There are other people who have spent a great deal more time and research studying history and the constitution. There are people who have read and reread the writings of the founders who were wordsmiths and took great pains to ensure that every word in the constitution have the exact meaning. Indeed, there are a lot of people out there who are smarter and more intelligent than me but clearly, you are not one of them.

[@TheTeatimecrumpet]

It's a Confederate Flag plain and simple. It may not be the "national flag" which still included the Northern Virginia Battle flag in it's entirety within the confederate flag so at the very least it is a very important and powerful symbol of the confederacy. No one would confuse the Northern Virginia Battle flag as anything other than a representation of the Confederacy itself. Regardless of the specifics of whether it was the Northern Virginia battle flag, the naval jack, or a part of the 2nd/3rd National Confederate flag it still represents an enemy to the United States of America.

[@Johnshoupe-k6m]

The south has been a huge help to me all these years it’s not racist

[@StashiaJeanette007]

Can someone please non sarcastically, no bs, explain to me why the confederate flag has become an instant emblem of racism towards blacks? I’m a podcaster and KZbin creator and I would like to ACCURATELY understand what the past and current controversies are. Thank you 🙏🏾.

[@midgebarker4022]

The stars & Bars flew over all government buildings. court houses, post offices etc. It was a big problem on the battlefield for troops in recognizing their units from the opponent. It had to be changed. At a distance, you can't tell the difference when the flag was limp.

[@mgmartin51]

Very interesting.

[@sunfishdana]

I'm looking forward to leaving Va for the state of SD next year. I've been here for some 38 years and frankly I'm tired of living in the past in the perpetual Civil War.

[@davidmoney1042]

Lol🙄😭😭😭🤣👍

[@stonewalljackson5692]

The Stainless Banner's first official use was on my body double's casket!

[@jackobrien2851]

this is history you cant change that. this museum should stay open

[@johncipolletti6139]

The Confederate Flag actually stood for states rights over federal rights. Unfortunately, slavery was part of this states rights argument which tainted their cause and that flag. Now waving this flag means I am a fool who won't listen to anyone, even if the society or country has to collapse!

[@anomalyevolution40]

No waving the flag just means fuck your opinion this is the rebel flag. Which means I do what I want and society plus cancel culture can fuck off. If you think it's racist that's a you problem.

[@peacewillow]

waving this flag was only ever meant to say one thing: we're going into battle, and some people will die.

[@hesjustthisguyyaknow]

here's a quote from the guy who proposed the design of the second national flag of the confederacy about its design: "As a people, we are fighting to maintain the heaven ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race: a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause." so tell me again how slavery was just an unfortunate side element of the meaning of the flag.

[@anomalyevolution40]

@@hesjustthisguyyaknow Not even close to the Truth. William Tappan Thompson was basically our version of the media back in the day. The editor only discussed variant changes on the stainless banner. Which only has the rebel flag in the top left corner. They took the awesome rebel flag and slapped it on. Just because 1 jackass editor is quoted saying some racist shit back in a time period full of racist people doesn't mean the flag is 100% racist. Rebel flag has a giant X over the 13 stars representing the 13 original colonies. A giant X over the union to represent succession. Now you could try and argue succession was so they could keep slavery but now we're really reaching here. At this point you might as well be trying to ban the democrat party for not supporting the 13th,14th and 15th amendments. So where does this end? This is what happens when people are thinking with emotions rather than logic and reasoning.

[@jasonhay1956]

#Real_Americans_Stand_Together "Old Glory"

[@johnrhymes3994]

BONNIE BLUE

[@johnrhymes3994]

@@nh251 so you can fly the mexican flag and the blm flag but I can not fly the confederate flag? does that not say old glory is a lie , when i dont have that freedom you are willing to give illegals? you need to visit are move to red china and see what flag you can fly. your statement makes old glory hipocritical

[@apotbos]

I hope they don't burn this building, this is american history even if he don't like it it's still our history.

[@rickmatz1935]

My first thought

[@cfc1251]

Considering the fact that they had their own flag, their own president, their own constitution, and their own military, points to the fact that it isnt really American history. They were traitors, and wanted to separate and form their own country.

[@apotbos]

@@cfc1251 I always thought that if something happened in a country in the past then it became a part of it's history I guess I was wrong.

[@apotbos]

@Metro Gartley you look like an educated person, you at least dress like one but remember if you forget the past you're bound to repeat it.

[@apotbos]

@Metro Gartley I'll start with the marginalized, druggies, mental illness and don't want help. Modern day slavery, people who work for Uber and McDonald's and so on they're not willing to put in hard work learn a more rewarding skill. Quit playing the victim.

[@julesthecaptain1]

That flag should have been banned after they lost the war but people who were in the government had the same racist beliefs and pardoned the traitors who were guilty of subversion.

[@TheCollabCurator]

Weird how this historian skipped so much history about that flag. How Lee's battle flag came back into prominence immediately after Brown vs. The Board of Education is well known. But doesn't fit nicely into their "heritage" argument. Maybe that's why he skipped that part.

[@melhew4102]

I wish people would educate themselves better about this flag.

[@TheRichLA]

What for? They were traitors

[@melhew4102]

@@TheRichLA everyone assumes the civil war started over slavery. IT DID NOT. The south was being overly and unfairly taxed by the north bc they were producing more goods. They felt as if they were being treated the same as when the English were here. So you they are traitors for standing up for what they believe to be unfair? FYI - slavery wasn't even a real issue until 3 yrs into the war. Educate yourself.

[@it_is_thatboy]

@@melhew4102 The southern Statees LITERALLY stated that they are Seceding because of slavery, and white supremacy. Go Read and Educate yourself, and stop spreading false information.

[@melhew4102]

@@it_is_thatboy That is a flat out LIE!! Maybe you need to educate yourself. South Carolina was the 1st state to Secede and maybe you need to evaluate the articles of succession. 41% included the content, 37% was about states rights, 20% was about Slavery and 2% about Lincoln being elected. When SC succeeded at the time nobody was actually trying to abolish slavery but it was one of the south's fears. We were already into the Civil War for 3 yrs before they did anything about slavery. It was only the wealthy who had slaves....1% of the population. Everyone else was pretty much dirt poor. Do YOUR homework. Maybe you also need to know there were black republicans in Congress after the Civil war until the DEMONRATS took black voting rights away....

[@it_is_thatboy]

@@melhew4102 I read what each State said and they LITERALLY said it was about the preservation of slavery, and white Supremacy. LITERALLY. It's right there. Stop spreading false information.

[@ManuelGuzman067]

Proud native Floridian rebel ✌

[@karingoodman4999]

What part north or south haha cause southern Florida is more libral

[@retroshark2448]

@@karingoodman4999 wrong Florida is more conservative

[@constantdarkfog49]

So glad this vital history is being preserved, it's so important. Great the building is restored & saved.

[@Codebreaker51]

Provided some people don't invade the White House of the Confederacy and try to destroy it because they are 'offended' by it!!!!!

[@GorggW]

It's literally just the Virginian battle flag?

[@rn6312]

Very similar, except the battle flag of n. virginia was square.

[@stonecoldcowboy1817]

I have always thought that what is considered by most as the Confederate Flag was the 3rd third one but was never flown to represent The Confederate States of America!!! But it was designed by a man from South Carolina and was first used by the Honorable General Robert E. Lee as nothing more than a Confederate Battle Flag because it was so much less confusing like you were saying!!! Now I already know the answer to the following question but if you don't then this will be very little work for you to find out!!!! Who's land was Arlington National Cemetary started on, who started it and why did they start it? You probably already know the answer to all those questions!!!

[@stonecoldcowboy1817]

@D G Let's just give it a day or so to let others have a chance to figure it out bro!!! Really it shouldn't be that hard for anyone with computers like they are they can Google it I guess I just know it because I was a history buff all through school and beyond !!!! And since I am a Southern Gentleman then I love to hear about the civil war and the Confederacy !!!

[@Kianquenseda]

Some people are symbol minded

[@reneebru1]

Not really...the South has a very proud history, whether people choose to realize that or not.

[@nickevans7477]

there certainly is a lot of drum people out there... real bongos. where have all the smart people gong?

[@tuckersabath2099]

@@reneebru1 everyone should be allowed to be proud. But stupidity and menacing behavior should always be scorned.

[@tuckersabath2099]

Symbols might reveal beliefs, or might indicate a profound stupidity.

[@jacobmarley2417]

@patriotgirl1 Your foolishness knows no limits. Read the articles of succession in your “proud forefathers” own words.

[@landonbass83]

For all the people who want to ban the “confederate” flag, how come everyone is ok with Hawaii having the United Kingdom’s flag on it, even thought, America fought for freedom from them

[@nathanjohnson6543]

I always wondered about that too.

@Random Entertainment but we're not cool with America

[@timmystevenssr.timbuck1966]

GOD BLESS THE CONFEDERATE FLAG AND THE SOUTH. I FLY 3 HUGE FLAGS ON MY LAND TODAY. I LIVE IN MARYLAND AND I BEEN FLYING REBEL FLAGS SINCE 1994 AT MY HOUSE AND NEVER HAD PROBLEMS

[@AaronVideoPortfolio]

Maryland was never even part of the confederacy

[@greenspiraldragon]

Maryland was an important border states. Maryland played an important part in the war and many people from Maryland served on both sides in the civil war. Battles were fought there. Confederate Brigadier General George H. Steuart, who was a noted brigade commander under Robert E. Lee

[@timmystevenssr.timbuck1966]

@@greenspiraldragon ABSOLUTELY you are totally right !!

[@nicholascrowder740]

@@AaronVideoPortfolio Maryland was going to vote rather to secede or not but Lincoln imprisoned the legislators before a vote could be cast. He feared Maryland would secede and Washington DC would be surrounded by Confederate States. That's one reason people of Maryland fought for both sides.

[@larszchzsche9070]

We lost in korea and vietnam, were these to wars a "lost cause" too?

[@larszchzsche9070]

The north dressed in kkk garb and blamed some of it on southerners, the kkk was in the south but the north did kkk raids and said it was the southerner. The war had more to do with the morril act. Succession is legal . The north fired first in s.c. please study. And dump your white guilt.

[@coynichols3517]

Now THIS is true journalism. Not some opinionated rhetoric. Just facts.

[@michaelcrosby552]

cant deny the confederate flags looked really cool

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

I'm not triggered by the Confederate flag

[@TheJblan]

They quit as traitors, zero honor

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

@@TheJblan that still doesnt trigger me lol

[@johnfreeman9766]

@@TheJblan at least they won a ton of battles which is more than can be said of the Mexican army.

[@Outlaw-Josey-Wales]

@@TheJblan they're square with a house there in the ground

[@griffon310]

Jose Blanco were all traitors in the Brits eyes...

[@LastCommodore]

The irony is that no national flag of the Confederacy lasted long enough to be remembered, while the battle flag has endured postwar for other purposes.

[@xychogaming]

Yeah. Because the treasonous Democrat party that created it were allowed to stay in America.

[@palestalemale8831]

@@xychogaming Buuuut the democrats changed their ways and the Republicans are the defenders of the Confederacy now. I mean look. It's literally all democrats trashing the Confederacy in the comments and all Republicans being apologists and making excuses/deflections. Whatever happened a hundred years ago. Today. The Republicans defend Confederate ideologies.

[@palestalemale8831]

@@xychogaming I mean, every single comment section you ppl are trying to deflect or "whatabout" or try to make some claims about a century ago, but you'll never criticize the Confederacy. You cant even try to argue that. Its every. single. comment. section.

[@xychogaming]

@@palestalemale8831 Why are you afraid of history? Why do you support removing history and changing the history books? Why do you support the nazi ideology to tear down the history you dont like and spin it to a version that promotes you?

[@palestalemale8831]

@@xychogaming why wont you address the fact that no matter what you think the history was currently the Confederacy is defended by the Republicans and pandered to by the President? Democrats today want nothing to do with any of it. While Republicans actively harbor Confederate apologists. Let's fix today's problems Sammy. Deflecting to the past isnt helping anyone. And you're not even accurate in your deflections anyways. You're just saying "but what about Democrats?". Its insincere and makes you look weak.

[@sierrajade63]

Its a beautiful flag,nice, symmetrical with pretty colors. Lincoln was a strong Advocate against slavery. That flag is actually a battle flag.

[@bigbigby4657]

Can Anyone who decries "Racism" please explain to me in how, exactly, is an act of slavery, of which All Races are guilty of and has committed, that was a 'way of life' as far as getting work done for 1,000's of years just as cash paying jobs of today is; is "Racist"?.?.? Slavery knew no color! It knew the weak, the conquered, the imprisioned, the poor, the uneducated, the orphaned and the homeless. Of which come in all skin colors!... So please explain, OR Get out of here with this "Racist" BS!

[@bobforpples]

Read the articles of secession, if you really want to know the truth.

[@CB_ChaosLove]

@@bobforpples I was about to say it slightly less nicely.

[@bigbigby4657]

Completely read the Articles of Succession of each State. Read the Articles of Confederation and the Articles of Congress.... The subject of Slavery was a matter at hand, THE over riding and ALL encompassing greater issue was State's Rights, as was garaunteed both under the Articles of Confederation and The Articles of Congress.... Along with the complete economic destruction of those States by the abolition of Slavery. Ultimately "State's Rights" in Life, Liberty, Self Governance and Economic Freedom was the Rally Cry for Succession and eventually War... Slavery was a main contributing factor, there's absolutely no denying that. Back to my original point at hand. Which neither of you two offered an answer, just misdirection.... Please explain how Slavery is "Racist"..... Again, Slavery was World Wide at that time. Slavery had been a way of production and labor for 1,000's of years. ALL RACES are guilty of Slavery and the use of it for labor and production. It was the Way of the World in that day and age! Whites, Blacks, Browns, Reds, and Yellow skinned people All Over the Planet were Slaves AND used Slave Labor... Last time... How is it "RACIST" if all mankind participated in, partaked in the use of its function and way of life on either side of the issue?.?.?.? The ONLY way it can or possibly could be "Racist" is if only 1 race of people used it against all others. Then it's "Racist"... If the White man used Slavery against Blacks, Browns, Reds, & Yellows and they all in return didn't use it against Whites or each other.... Then it's "Racist" and White's would be "Racist" using Slavery against all other's. But because ALL has been involved and guilty of using Slavery, it cannot be ""Racist"... Wrong, evil, should have been and rightfully so eventually abolished here in the U.S.... but Not "Racist."

[@CB_ChaosLove]

@@bigbigby4657 slavery in and of itself, without context is as racist as orange peels. If you are arguing slavery in America, then that's a totally different story. It's not even worth anyones time to argue the racism element there. It is literally codified in writing. Prejudice based on race is the definition of racism.

[@bigbigby4657]

@@CB_ChaosLove ... I just Completely and Utterly disagree. If a White man owns a White Slave as they did in Rome... How's that "Racist"? If a Black man in Africa defeats a tribe and takes on an enemy black woman as a Slave as they do in Africa to this very day... How is that "Racist"? If an Indian defeated another tribe and took on another red man or woman or child as a Slave as they did.... How's that "Racist"? If a Black free man in America took an African black person as a Slave as they did in the U.S..... How's that "Racist"?.?.? Racism per definition is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. Similar: racial discrimination racialism racial prejudice the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. Sir, yet again, Slavery did not discriminate based on Race. Slavery was used and abused by ALL RACES. It *cannot* be "Racist" You have to take the issue of Slavery on as a whole and not in part. To take it on in part and rightfully divide the issue you make out the entire Human Race to be "Racist".

[@Hey_its_Koda]

The south should be remembered. As all of the civil war. Both sides lost alot of men and young boys. Families were torn apart. Its our nations history. Its American history. Its needs to be kept intact and we have to learn from it. Not erase it. Visit civil war sites and think it about it. People gave their lives. How will your grandkids learn?

[@SharpeICE]

Books, documentaries, museums, historical, heritage sites, journals, papers, diaries there are many ways for people to learn about history. However, always be sure to use reliable sources especially with how The Confederate States of America is viewed, do not be by The Lost Cause Myth as that is all it is a myth. Furthermore, if you were touching on the phase of removing Confederate statues and memorials just know this, statues are not how we remember history, the resources I previously stated are, statues are how we glorify history and the Confederates does not need glorifying end of.

[@asher6657]

what a weak assed red herring fallacy. What does that nonsense have to do with statues built in the 40's to memorialize a racist ideology, and prominently displayed to intimidate black people? Abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

[@Zirnick]

oh look a unbiased channel

[@RisingSun0203]

They use to teach history in school.

[@it_is_thatboy]

Southern Schools don't like to teach history. I barely learned a thing in the South.

[@lizgaby9761]

Can somebody explain why they associate this flag with racism? I keep reading that over different forums...even baby center...

[@clementgeorge2449]

Just to give you an alternate perspective on the Confederate flag. Something that you might not have thought about. This is what the Confederate flag means to me. As a young boy growing up in Philadelphia during the 60s up North. Yes, a Yankee. The talk of young men was war as it was the cold war Era and our youth were gearing up for a bloody showdown between the USA and the Soviet Union. In our conversations, we discussed doing battle with the Soviet Union. And we would always say, if you were going into battle, you would be lucky and proud if someone behind you was flying a Confederate flag. It meant that the southern boys were loyal and had your back and that they were of character who would fight like hell for you. So to my surprise, somewhere in the 90s, schools started pushing the confederate flag as a symbol of the KKK. It may have been. I don't know as I know no one who is or was a KKK member. But as a country, should we let a minority opinion define the character of a symbol or should the majority opinion matter? I believe the majority opinion is one of Southern Pride and a very small group have used this flag as a symbol of hate. So the question that I ask is, "Why do we let the minority destroy the great southern pride of the majority?" Of course the easy and popular answer is to say the Civil War is about slavery. But I am not a historian and I would like to think that it was more a group of states that did not want to be told how to live their lives. And slavery could of been one facet. But as I said my real knowledge of the Civil War is limited. There is no disputing the injustice of slavery. And I am acknowledging that I do not have the credentials to properly discuss Civil War history. I would however guess that the rich southerners owned slaves and the poor southerners fought the battle. And to the poor southern fighters, the flag means southern pride to them. And I would guess the rich southerners who owned slaves could care less about the Confederate flag. Just keep in mind, "Thinking before hating."

[@Ben00000]

_"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution."_ Alexander Stephens, Cornerstone Speech You afford the Confederates a lot of sympathy and the benefit of the doubt. It would have been a better world if they afforded that to the millions of black people they enslaved and killed.

[@CAGeorge123]

@@Ben00000 Again, it's easy to hate. But try to analyze the issues from both sides. So let's not scream racism before doing a little analysis.

[@Ben00000]

@@CAGeorge123 I did some analysis, as you can see.

[@CAGeorge123]

@@Ben00000 Quoting someone's statement is not analysis. Read some history and then state your own thoughts. You will enjoy reading history and I think you will be surprised and your findings. Good luck!

[@Ben00000]

@@CAGeorge123 I read history. That's how I found the quote. Please explain the "other side". How is it unclear? What wiggle room are you seeing?

[@charley2714]

The Georgia flag is almost identical to the stars and bars flag

[@johnrhardin6460]

Yes and folks don’t realize that,,, The new state flag was actually the confederate flag or I thought it was

[@crazyboy74100]

Awesome I love it I hope it stays there forever when I go out east definatly gonna stop by the museum and I was born and raised in tucson the capital of Confederate Az and I'd like people to show more recognition to the fact that southern az and southern new Mexico are a part of the southern states of America it seems very few people acknowledge that and I'm vary proud of the fact I was born and live in Tucson Az the capital of the Az Confederate territory I'm proud of my North Carolina and New Mexico family roots and I love to learn history good bad something I agree with or not I want to know the history of my family and the places my family comes from and has migrated to

[@crazyboy74100]

That doesn't make me a bad guy does it?

[@TNraised615]

@@crazyboy74100 no

[@snyderman001]

I hardly read the comment sections anymore. Most people parrot what their phone tells them to say. Or they do a google search and paste something in the comments. Of course; most just straight out lie using a a strawman argument or ad hominem argument. So I will just go read Shelby Foote's works again.

[@snyderman001]

@aboctok Well look around. I had a Wendy's employee use hers because she didn't know how to count change; it was 11 cents. I saw another google directions to a store 2 blocks away. It would be more sarcastic if it were not true.

[@crazboy84]

You should stop worrying so much about how other people live their lives, you sound quite pathetic bitching on the internet about how strangers use their phones. Do you really have nothing better to do in your life?

[@michaelleonetti8564]

Thank you it took me an entire summer to read his fantastic history of the civil war can't wait to read it again

[@CB_ChaosLove]

@@crazboy84 do you have a mirror?

[@Codebreaker51]

You couldn't have picked anyone better to read and to believe.

[@adolfiehillarious6076]

THE ORIGINAL BATTLE FLAG OF THE 1ST. PALMETTO SHARPSHOOTERS, OF UPSTATE (SOUTH CAROLINA) THE ONLY OUTFIT ANNEXED INTO THE ARMY OF NORTHERN VIRGINA, AN ORIGINAL MADE OF SILK EXAMPLE WAS STITCHED UP BY THE LADIES OF RICHMOND AND PRESENTED TO THIS ARMY, ALTHOUGH IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE ANEXATION, I. THINK THERE ARE THREE ORIGINALS LEFT IN EXISTSNCE, NOT SURE!

[@kylebittner5100]

Interesting information. Thank you for this.

[@nathanjohnson6543]

The Swastika was a symbol of good luck and was used by peaceful people in their religions. Then the Nazis took it for their use. It's not about what it was (though this is also HUGELY important that we don't forget), it's how it was used and what it became. Let us remember that things can start out good but can be hijacked by crazy, ambitious people with their own agendas (or they can even start out as good but then get corrupted by power). The flag may have started out with good intentions. But when it came to a civil war, both sides brought their own flags to battle....and BOTH flags were symbols of division. Had the south won, how would the flag of the north be viewed? I'm just opening up differing perspectives...not actually taking a side on this.

[@wandererwerewolf477]

I'll point out that the Nazis used a reversed swastika. Not quite on the same level as an inverted cross, but in the same vein. In addition, there were loads of battle flags -- that one just happens to be the best-looking, which is why everybody kept borrowing it. therealcivilwar.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/cfed-flag.jpg

[@marcfrost7175]

Without our history we will fail as a country!

[@thatoneguy9208]

Germanys doing pretty good and they don't have any statues of Hitler or Nazi flags waving around.

[@travisdozier1357]

@Eagle wolf Solitario the fuck not..your an idiot.

[@manifestman132]

@hanz patinski The only ones who are trying to start a war are the Republicans and the white nationalists who support them.

[@marsar8126]

Our country you say are you a native American? Don't think so.

[@Kianquenseda]

People generally don’t appreciate history

[@cantankerousblack3391]

Exactly, but maybe because America has done a poor job of telling the truth its own history.

[@williamkowalchik572]

Confederate flag = Catherine Bach in a pair of daisy dukes. Nuff said!

[@markhull1366]

YeeHa! Now TV Land has canceled the reruns because of the Confederate flag on the General Lee saying the show was racist. www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dukes-hazzard-star-rips-tv-806339

[@cuttinupthecarpet504]

@@markhull1366 you fuckin shittin me?

[@markhull1366]

@@cuttinupthecarpet504 Well, I guess it was pre-BLM, but it was over the Confederate flag on the General Lee and how the show was racist. It was in 2015 in the days that started all the crap today. So basically, same thing, only different time. I guess we're supposed to cancel America's history. Editing a correction above.

[@cuttinupthecarpet504]

@@markhull1366 watched the dukes when it was prime time and nothing about that show is racist . What kind of world is it when the fuckin dukes of hazard is racist, however several news reporters have refered to white women in the media as Karens or Beckys and also ive seen others make fun of whites when they cry saying its white tears.

[@StarDreamMemories]

@@cuttinupthecarpet504 reverse discrimination. Been going on a very long time, but taboo to speak of. Totally racist for ppl to think if you white you got privileges! Bottom line....keep them separated So glad there are so many mixed Americans, it's a little gray now, not so easy to separate 😝🙈🙉🙊

[@twopremiers1801]

I an not an American so I can be impartial. I think the 13 stars represented 13 states of the confederacy,but the two extra stars were for Maryland and Kentucky which remained neutral, so there were 11 Confederate states.

[@scottwilliamson8353]

missouri not maryland

[@rickdee365]

Even SPLC recognized that flag as a known nonracist cultural symbol, and not just a hate symbol as some would like it to be.

[@jaythomas4448]

The reason why some people revered the Confederate battle flag after the Civil War is bc it is a symbol of rebellion, not bc it is a symbol of slavery or the Confederacy.

[@dw7312]

Rebellion = slavery

[@bar1239]

The dictionary disagrees

[@broomstickyes4069]

D W lmao fucking idiot

[@AestheticSloth420]

@@dw7312 no it doesn't moron. You've been conditioned and gaslighted into thinking nonsense

[@Cptntasty]

@@bar1239 You assume that D W can read.

[@mr.e4381]

Racism, racism, AND racism.

[@nextanvil3346]

Why?

[@lewisjersey5422]

The saint Andrews cross is the flag of Scotland. It has no stars. Blue background white cross corner to corner.

[@denisdegamon8224]

Some Southern units used that flag as their units identity in the army of Tennessee.

[@crocsonletsgo9665]

I thought the stars and bars had only 7 stars. I didn't know that flash was even around when the other states joined.

[@crocsonletsgo9665]

@Samuel Wiley bonnie blue had been flying in my front yard for months.

[@jasenmorris8295]

What the Blood stained banner flag TRULY symbolizes: #1 The 13 stars represent the original 13 colonies. A lot of people say there were 13 states in the Confederacy, but there actually 11. #2 the criss-cross is the Saint Andrews cross, the same symbol used on the flag of Scotland and Jamaica. #3 the white background symbolizes cotton NOT skin color. Before the war began the south was producing 2/3 of the world supply of cotton. #4 the red vertical stripe symbolizes the exact same thing as the red stripes do on the American flag, which is the blood of the fallen.

[@johnwyatt7206]

God bless our history you might tear it down but we will never forget!

[@suaveforpresident9830]

Don’t worry I’m sure they’ll make museum for you and all the confederate flag worshipers filled with flags from all over

[@sionnachmacbradaigh1010]

Were your slave holding ancestors frequent visitors to the slave quarters? Do you have many bi-racial cousins because your great great granddaddy was a serial rapist?

[@johnwyatt7206]

Sorry sionnach macbraddaigh. None of that never happened on my side therefore I am not ashamed for being a white male how dare you even insinuate those allegations. Truly shows you are ignorant. Instead of taking down statues Jesus Christ, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, you should Target Muslims since Allah as the Quran says owned hundreds of slaves. Dismantled the Democratic party because they gave birth to the KKK. Chew on those facts!!!

[@BobHolster-om8rf]

THEY SHOULD HAVE PLANNED AHEAD. THEY COULD AND SHOULD HAVE WON THE WAR.

[@keithparker9027]

You need to speak to hk egerton

[@thomasdowling6594]

Apparently my neighbor here in New York flies the stars and bars every Fourth of July but not the St. Andrew’s Cross. Interesting choice. It seems to be less a paean to the South here in New York and more a statement of country pride.

[@doclightning4360]

The battle of Gettysburg ended on July 4. There are many people who fly both flags on July 4.

[@tracicomstock3489]

Very good information. I did not know this. Thank you.

[@danielallman6616]

The flag is a thing of beauty.

[@iancampbell1316]

The confederate battle flag was waved proudly by people who waged war against the USA and lost. They committed treason which is punishable by death according to the constitution of the USA. The leadership of the confederacy should have been executed in accordance with the constitution. Why weren't they? They waged war against the USA because they wanted to continue to own people. They wanted to continue to force labor, torture, rape, and murder people. They did this while proudly waving the confederate flag. Ask yourself, is that racist? After the civil war, the confederate battle flag was waved proudly by people who went around killing black people. They would kidnap black people from their homes, burn their homes, and take them to be tortured and murdered. They hung them from trees, castrated them, stabbed them, burned them, dismembered them, and so much more evil things. They did all these things in a carnival atmosphere. White men, women, and CHILDREN watched and cheered. With the smell of burned flesh in the air, they posed for pictures in front of the mutilated bodies smiling from ear to ear. They even created post cards from the pictures to send to friends and relatives like we would Disney post cards today. Some, who considered themselves fortunate, took trophies like fingers, ears, and dicks with them. They did all of this while proudly waving the confederate battle flag. Ask your self, is that racist? Through out US American history, white people have done evil things while proudly waving that flag. The history of the USA is tainted by the blood of black people, Chinese people, Native American people, Mexicans and so much more who were murdered by people while proudly waving the confederate flag. Again I ask you, is that racist?

[@danielallman6616]

@@iancampbell1316 you need to learn a hell of a lot more than you thank you know about the civil war. You have a lot of information wrong. Just remember the winners write history the way they want to write it.

[@iancampbell1316]

@@danielallman6616 Please identify what you believe I got wrong. Also, if you are suggesting that the motive for the confederacy waging war against the USA was States rights, I say you are right and wrong. It was about States rights but only one particular right the confederacy believed in so much they waged war against the USA over it. The right to own, force to labor, torture, sell, rape (men, women, and children), burn, castrate, dismember, and murder people.

[@danielallman6616]

@@iancampbell1316 I just simply stated in my first comment that the flag is beautiful I didn't ask to go back and forth with you about all of this it is worthless and pointless now where I'm from we respect the flag and fly at high if you don't that is your business will we see more in the flag than most people do and we respect that is all I am going to say about it.

[@iancampbell1316]

@@danielallman6616 If that's all you have to say abut it, then please allow me to have the last word. You fly the flag because you believe it to be beautiful? You fly it knowing the horror that has been committed in the shadow of that flag? You live in the USA, a country that I believe you love yet you fly a flag that represents a group that waged war against it? You fly a banner that represents treason? You revere a flag of the losers of a war that killed the most US American citizens ever. I think you need to rethink your position. There is nothing beautiful about a treasonous flag that has been waved over the death and torture of so many.

[@masonpyle5929]

Living in the south and knowing Civil War history there are flags with the confederate flag design that didn’t exist in the war- One says heritage not hate One is a mixture between the confederate flag and the don’t thread on me flag🐍 Well this one is one only Floridians know- One has the Florida seal in the middle.

[@rb032682]

"Heritage OF Hate!"

[@masonpyle5929]

@@rb032682 Yeah true but I have never met a person who flies or owns anything CSA a racist. Actually ( as far as I know) I have never met a racist.

[@rb032682]

@@masonpyle5929 - Anyone who flies a shitrag flag of the csa, kkk, or their ilk, is a racist. The USA was founded on violent racism. If you live in the USA, you have met many racists. Why are you trying to bullshit people?

[@masonpyle5929]

@@rb032682 I’m guessing you want me to say on how the United States wasn’t found on racism and you fight back on how it was. Then we constantly go back and forth with each other’s facts forever? Yeah no thanks we have better things to do with our lives than debate each other. Besides the original comment was stating modern designs of the CSA flags.

[@rb032682]

@@masonpyle5929 - The only thing I want you to do is admit you are a victim of 160 years of csa/kkk "lost cause" fairy tale propaganda. The csa, kkk, and their ilk are nothing more than low-life terrorist gangs, worse than any MS-13-type gang.

[@jaymoney3188]

I have one on my house and 12 more in a box in case they stop selling them. I could care less if people don’t like it. I will not apologize for that 😎

[@peacewillow]

well aren't you special.

[@MonnyYell]

Excellent explanation of 2nd Place

[@gregmardon6973]

I do not like C-SPAN, but they do a damn good job here explaining the national flags of the Confederacy.

[@douglasarrington8461]

I will be surprised if that part of history is still standing after all the up roar that's been happening. I pray they leave it alone.

[@clintonsmith5163]

If you are referring to the mansion that Jefferson Davis lived in, that building has so much historical significance that it is unlikely that it would be destroyed. It's very different than removing a statue that was probably erected decades after the Civil War ended.

[@toledojeeper2932]

@ ...unfortunately the protesters vandalized Lincoln Memorial and a Grant statue and other statues of heroes so I really dont know what the hell they want...i think they are just a bunch of bitch ass thugs

[@_Boobear_]

@ fuck you grant was a good man and he released that slave too..some fucking history teacher you are

[@toledojeeper2932]

@ ...lol..the National Guard are thugs...you truly are a idiot Grant fought against the KKK ...yes he owned slaves as did many people back then because it was a way of life then So really you need to pull down all American flags too because slavery lasted longer under the American flag than the Confederate flag I believe they already have pulled down a Washington statue These protesters are nothing but a bunch of low life thugs that need to be eliminated I dont know of any sane American that supports them...hope they keep shooting each other in their chop zone

[@terryhobdy5727]

@ and you get paid to teach damn shame someone with so much hate is paid by tax $

[@mikeratkowski3506]

Museums are the best place for these things they are a part of our history.

[@jermainemitchell2002]

ALSO A RACISM MUSEUM ✌🏿

[@chrismckell5353]

@@jermainemitchell2002 an uninformed statement if ever I saw one the confederate flag is no more a rallying point for racism than any other. Nationalists often use their country flag as a rallying point.

[@useyourbrain3765]

@@jermainemitchell2002 Kinda' like the African-American Museum in D.C. Blacks are represented in all the other museum venues, so why a venue where only black history is told? There's not a white one, or an Asian one.. dedicated soley to that race.

[@useyourbrain3765]

So, history belongs only in a museum, then?

[@michaelleonetti8564]

Unfortunately not for long if certain people have their way so very sad trying to erase our history not great always but it is ours

[@juanmelendez5672]

We need Native American Statues. Cochise, Sitting Bull, Geronimo just for starters.

[@human-qp1mf]

Don't for get CRAZY HORSE on the monument!

[@mitchbrown7056]

Then build them!

[@human-qp1mf]

@@mitchbrown7056 we need money in our communities NOT statues! I'm sick of allll this! We need to stop spending money like we do, until this is over.... kick special interests groups OUT! Cut pay to politicians....I want me some cake too 😂😆

[@dlam2864]

Yes, statues of all people of importance in US history, confederates, slaves, president, Native Americans, wild west pioneers, all of them

[@1DesertCop]

There are already some,if they want some more then build them so the liberals can tear their statues down

[@wtbofnc7880]

How long can you knowingly or unknowingly perpetuate a lie or keep a secret? Four red triangles of Middle Franken.

[@lolajeans4467]

I have a question. Why did we have a war. What was it about?

[@richardward3202]

Because Lincoln didn't like other people having their own way. If he had simply left the Confederates alone to secede and become their own independent nation, over 600,000 men would not have been unnecessarily slaughtered, not to mention the innocent women and children that suffered so horribly along with the devastating rape and pillage of people and property by the 'victors'.

[@it_is_thatboy]

@@richardward3202 I also feel bad for those women and children that suffered so horribly with the devastating rape and torture during the slavery, that happened for hundreds of years. And the rape and pillage of black communities that happened through the 20th century.