CONFRONTING COLORISM in Jamaica / Creative Class / The Reel

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@andryiad9467
@andryiad9467 7 ай бұрын
I find it so rich that she doesn’t believe in colourism yet gives an example of her experiencing it in her childhood with her parents. Colourism is real in Jamaica. It is rooted in colonialism and has never left the fabric of Jamaican society. It also intersects with classism. From employment to entertainment to poverty.
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx 7 ай бұрын
Sara saying that colorism don’t exist is a typical lightskinned woman answer.
@andreasmith1813
@andreasmith1813 7 ай бұрын
​@@sarajade_24'I'm not sure colorism is really a thing' (your words).
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx 7 ай бұрын
@@andreasmith1813 Thank you.
@bonitami_amor56
@bonitami_amor56 7 ай бұрын
​​@@sarajade_24you will definitely be treated like what we call "dark skin Jamaican" if you were in the US or Canada. Because you aren't necessarily classified as "lightskin" but brown skin in the European terminology. I wonder if you will be singing that same tune if you were living in those countries.
@1SilentRiver
@1SilentRiver 7 ай бұрын
​@@bonitami_amor56 No one in the US nor Canada would look at her and consider her dark skin. Tf?
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
Colourism is a 2 way street, though. It's not only flowing from shade alone to another. It's even from one dark skin to another dark skin or dark skin to a lighter skin. It's not only coming from the light skin. Jamaica, like Nigeria, like India other countries that have a culture of colourism all had British colonialism as the common denominator. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
@johncrowbatty2000
@johncrowbatty2000 7 ай бұрын
Sara is so wrong, but ofc the person benefiting would deny that their benefiting, because they would have to accept their own mediocrity…but they can’t do that.
@Tajerra-hp7wt
@Tajerra-hp7wt 7 ай бұрын
I don't consider Sara to be born skinned I don't think she has that privilege. She definitely have pretty privilege.
@876LND
@876LND 7 ай бұрын
Colorism is VERYY much real! Why do you think we have bleaching problem? Why are most of our pageant queens are mixed?? I hate this denial, coming from a “browning”
@davidldn1
@davidldn1 7 ай бұрын
Norman Manley chose the national motto "Out of Many, One People" to represent the various African tribes that Jamaicans descended from during the era of slavery. The motto was intended to unite the large majority of afro Jamaicans, especially in the aftermath of slavery, rather than to celebrate the minority ethnicities present in Jamaica at the time. People today do not know the true meaning and use it incorrectly all over social media. An enslaved race would not use such a motto to include their oppressors, unless they were experiencing Stockholm syndrome, which some of us are in Jamaica.
@bigyardstyle00
@bigyardstyle00 3 ай бұрын
Norman Manley was white, married to a white English woman.
@Rightonrightoff
@Rightonrightoff 7 ай бұрын
As an East African who has spent time in Jamaica I was blown away by the colorism and self hatred there. As an East African with features people from outside of Africa would find “non African” the level of mind numbing ignorance, ingrained self hatred, white/lighter worshipping and generational inferiority complex I saw was heartbreaking to say the least. I dealt with Jamaicans who are by any measure would look “black” than all of East Africans would deny their African heritage. Colonialism has done a number on Jamaica. Let’s just hope the next generation will be far more proud of their heritage than the ones that came before them. The only way to combat the devastating impact colonialism has on the psyche of diasporas and continental folks to learn to love themselves, each other and their heritage.
@curlieeloks3032
@curlieeloks3032 7 ай бұрын
@@KishaWynterthe topic of the video was JAMAICA and colorism right ? Why be so harsh with the East African brotherin as they were staying on topic about their experience in said Jamaica ???
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
Get informed. This is not unique to Jamaica. Right there on the African continent, Nigerians are known for that as well. Even worse for Jamaica, it also encountered plantation slavery. The slave owner impregnated slave woman from the fields and her lighter complexion mulatto child was raised in the " Great House ".
@askellpositive
@askellpositive 7 ай бұрын
lies lies most Jamaican men love black women visit our schools 90 percent black check our sports teams check our government stop using ignorant people to judge in Ethiopia people live in mud huts and put lip plates in their lip Somalia is so poor and a failed state women have no rights Kenya is poor Uganda Tanzania .
@chrisper7527
@chrisper7527 7 ай бұрын
Hold on now, because there are many East Africans who claim that they are not black.
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
You don't get to tell us what we are. It's Africans that sold us down the river to the slave masters then want to tell us about 'You're African'- get lost with the gaslighting. We created our own identity, spaces and have our own ethnicity, we're not all 100% African, that's who we were, not who we are today. It's a part of our ancestry but not our identity now. We are Caribbean.
@morningstar916j
@morningstar916j 7 ай бұрын
I’m not surprised by Sara’s answer. People on the privileged side of colorism always act like that. They won’t see it, because they aren’t getting denied jobs based on their color. They get through everywhere.
@morningstar916j
@morningstar916j 7 ай бұрын
Also, every year miss universe is mixed and doesn’t look like the majority of Jamaica (which is majority black). The one time we had a full black girl she was the star of the show (Davina). Every year the girls look the same and that pageant is so rigged 😂
@rexjones691
@rexjones691 7 ай бұрын
@@morningstar916j you need to stop having self hate towards light skin black people
@morningstar916j
@morningstar916j 7 ай бұрын
@@rexjones691you missed the entire point of my comment.
@rexjones691
@rexjones691 7 ай бұрын
@@morningstar916j skin color don't matter anymore we are out of that system
@bizziedignal9266
@bizziedignal9266 7 ай бұрын
​@@morningstar916jThey wilfully dismiss your point, that's how they uphold privilege.
@TashAndStuff
@TashAndStuff 7 ай бұрын
Sis aint never lied the way jamaica slaps "out of many one people" on everything while ignoring the fact that the darker skinned population is somehow higly mistreated in a society where black people dominated is wilddd
@drehgonden1103
@drehgonden1103 7 ай бұрын
Yes colorism is a thing and for the person that said that I’m lighter than she is , I’m male and I notice micro aggressions that my friends around me experience when I don’t. If I was to ignore them and say oh well it’s a one off I’d be apart of the problem. This has been said to me from I was little, yeah u can go do da job deh , cause yuh brown u we get it. So it’s a known thing.
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, very relatable
@MikaMile-tp3kp
@MikaMile-tp3kp 7 ай бұрын
@@creativeclass876 I am light-skinned but I am still Afro-Jamaican. The only people who get privileged strictly based on their appearance in this country are people who can pass as another race or those with little to no African ancestry. Sara clearly has a significant amount of Asian ancestry. What is colorism? discrimination against individuals with a dark skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group. but who are the biggest perpetrators of colorism? Dark-skinned black Jamaicans. They will quickly push you aside to get to the Chinese man or Syrian mixed man in the line behind you because I am still black, There is also reverse colorism. Sometimes dark-skinned black people go out of their way to be rude to me because I am light-skinned but also black but they won't try that with a Chinese or Lebanese man. Also, that girl with the locks who said she is light, I am lighter than her and I still have to wear "nice" clothes to get treated with basic respect. Most of the people in customer service are BLACK WOMEN who are generally rude but very biased in their treatment based on your appearance I experienced this whenever I do business in Jamaica. I experience this whenever I go to Manor Park Plaza or other areas just last week actually at Digicel Manor Park. Yes I am light but I am not light enough because I cannot run my fingers through my hair and also I am NOT dark enough to get the respect as a darker-skinned male.
@maijennasis
@maijennasis 7 ай бұрын
the colonizers did a number all across the diaspora. colorism, texturism, and classism are all deeply entrenched in a lot of the colors unfortunately, so much so that some people don’t even think they exits or that it’s a problem (of course more so when they themselves benefit from these systems). ALSO, there are NOT two ends of the stick with colorism, it literally only means the discrimination of people with DARKER SKIN. So someone getting treated mean for being lighter would just be bullying lmaoo not colorism.
@Alicia.1010-x7v
@Alicia.1010-x7v 7 ай бұрын
Personally while I believe colourism does exists, i think its really embedded in classism. In our history, persons of a higher class has mostly been lighter skin people, hence they tend to get certain privilege. However, if a dark skin person has their money, they are able to attain these privileges. Great vid 🎉
@Creolebabe92
@Creolebabe92 7 ай бұрын
Yes after they question where we get our money from
@MikaMile-tp3kp
@MikaMile-tp3kp 7 ай бұрын
Colorism does exist but it mostly benefits, people like Sara and Lighter Jamaicans who are clearly bi-racial or multi-racial and to a lesser extent Afro-Jamaicans. BTW as an uptown Jamaican, we can tell the difference between a Sara and browning from Grants Pen who has used skin-lightening cream to look different. It's more than just the skin color it is the hair texture, it is also the facial features, the accent, the way she carries herself, and more. So skin bleaching doesn't help anyone it just makes them look ridiculous.
@bizziedignal9266
@bizziedignal9266 7 ай бұрын
Colorism is an extension of classism in countries with struggling economies we get all of these societal discriminatory practices operating viscously rather than either or. The tragedy of colorism is the assumption that a white or lighter skin person is to be automatically bestowed benefits and privilege because of their appearance instead of their achievements or character. This is bad judgement and why so many of us get hurt, get conned and why our economies are trash. Dark skin ppl with money cannot escape this discrimination - Usain Bolt will tell you how they hounded him out of his expensive home because he didn't fit in. Olympics legend and millionaire or not he still couldn't meet the neighbours bs criteria.
@MikaMile-tp3kp
@MikaMile-tp3kp 7 ай бұрын
@@bizziedignal9266 Historically, it is a product of colonialism and slavery primarily the social hierarchy set by the PLANTACROCY. With whites occupying the pinnacle of the social pyramid and blacks at the bottom. As Many whites fled the island at the end of slavery along with the profits of slavery they were willing to put anyone in their place but blacks to maintain the status quo including Mullatos, Jews (whites), Lebanese, Syrians, Chinese, East Indians and any combination thereof to perpetuate the idea that lighter is better. The black population has been heavily brainwashed and traumatized to hate themselves and their brothers and sisters. I have been called Brown Man or Browning in Jamaica, Red Man in Barbados, red bone in the USA.
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
The bigger issue is classism. Prominent people in modern day Jamaica look like the dark skinned majority. The DPP, the current police Commissioner, the Chief Justice etc. There is an Upper black middle class that exists. If you are mulatto from St.Elizabeth but uneducated and can't speak proper English but only speak patois , an Upper class or middle class man will have fun with such a young lady secretly but will never marry her .
@Familyforchrist-hp5kk
@Familyforchrist-hp5kk 7 ай бұрын
Colorism in Jamaica is really bad and if you think it’s not your delusional
@vanessamillwood9710
@vanessamillwood9710 7 ай бұрын
me yellow skin and colorism definitely exist in Jamaica
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx
@AffirmativeAction-dl5zx 7 ай бұрын
If you applying for a Marketing job, being light skinned is an advantage. Also, there’s one courier company out here that over the years they only hired light skinned people
@allisonalberts7168
@allisonalberts7168 3 ай бұрын
Texturism goes hand in hand with the colorism too the “pretty hair “,”coolie hair” etc
@valenciabrown5970
@valenciabrown5970 7 ай бұрын
Its Jev starting a whole dub poem for me 😂😂
@crissybs
@crissybs 7 ай бұрын
I haven't really experienced colourism but have been discriminated because I am of a bigger body type...
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
Body shaming is a big no no, sorry you went through that
@adrianbrown7
@adrianbrown7 7 ай бұрын
😊​@@creativeclass876
@breannaanderson2475
@breannaanderson2475 7 ай бұрын
Same here
@leonpeart9447
@leonpeart9447 7 ай бұрын
I experience this at work. It crazy it still exist in Jamaica
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
Wow! What really happened? If you can share?
@Creolebabe92
@Creolebabe92 7 ай бұрын
I experience it too and had to walk off my job!!!! Kmt
@Creolebabe92
@Creolebabe92 7 ай бұрын
​@@creativeclass876 you would be so surprised how affected we dark skinned ppl are with colorism
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
What exactly?
@DeneilaWright
@DeneilaWright 7 ай бұрын
Like Nibbian said, it is most definitely deeply rooted and prominent within the Jamaican society, much like texturism (discrimination based on hair texture ie. Many perceiving looser texture as "pretty" whilst coarser hair such as 4b/c as "bad head" or "tough" ), it is not innate yet it seems as if as black people it is something which comes natural to us, yes it has been caused by our history of oppression but we still have a duty to free ourselves from such mental slavery amd bondages of the past BUT the often case is that many simply choose to remain ignorant much like many other issues in society. I could honestly spend a lonnggg time talking about these issues lol but good video 👍
@mali_creates
@mali_creates 7 ай бұрын
Colorism is still there but in modern times its overshadowed by classism in jamaica If you got yo money you will get better treatment as a black man
@MikaMile-tp3kp
@MikaMile-tp3kp 7 ай бұрын
but how do they know you have money by looking at you? Most people with a lot of money don't dress flashy, they may drive nice cars but they are not flashy. I like fashion and I am light-skinned but at this stage in my life, all I have is a bunch of letters behind my name i.e Degrees not $$$$. Recently, I went to the Verandah at Devon House with my extended family for dinner and the waitress who is black came up to me to ask me if I was going to split the bill because of my appearance. The first mistake she made was to assume that we needed to split the bill because we are a black family. The second mistake, my half-sibling who is much much darker than I, is a multi-millionaire by any standard and he just gave her his card and paid for ten of us. So black ppl stop making assumptions wait for the result because you are a part of the problem.
@deepaulie8701
@deepaulie8701 7 ай бұрын
The fact that you have hardly any dark skin women in this video speaks volumes.
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
What’s the volume?
@deepaulie8701
@deepaulie8701 7 ай бұрын
@@creativeclass876 It's loud, it means there is a big problem. Colorism does not affect dark skin men in the same way that it does dark skin women, we are the biggest victims of it due to eurocentric beauty standards up holding that slim women with European hair and small noses are the standard of beauty so dark skin women with broader noses and heavy set lips, with thick 4c hair are not considered beautiful and are ridiculed for their looks by dark skin black men as well as everyone else. DSBW are hardly seen on screen, even in this video where you should center them you have made them the minority, and this is due to colorism.
@deepaulie8701
@deepaulie8701 7 ай бұрын
@@creativeclass876 I think you deleted my response. I said the volume is loud, it's loud because you have decided to make darkskin women the minority on your video that is about colorism which affects darkskin black women with 4c hair the most, but you have not centred them, which makes this whole video colorist.
@analiseferguson
@analiseferguson 7 ай бұрын
That's a fact.
@dsmith5855
@dsmith5855 7 ай бұрын
@@deepaulie8701they talk about so many topics and invite the same cast that cannot relate to anything.
@orlandoennis1047
@orlandoennis1047 7 ай бұрын
People who benefit from it dont always see it
@Creolebabe92
@Creolebabe92 7 ай бұрын
As a black gal mi go through it
@workinabroad
@workinabroad 7 ай бұрын
I'm a dark skin Jamerican, but I do have pretty privilege. I'm like the brown woman with locks. I share the privilege with my girls if they are being ignored. We are friends/family. Why would I want to prosper alone? Still the dark skin will set me back if I'm around pretty brown or light skin women.
@Shazzyhtown
@Shazzyhtown 7 ай бұрын
🤔🤔 funny that the dark skin is an advantage in a humid climate like 🇯🇲. Every darker skinned person I know ages well. This is a blessing. 😊
@RemyDon
@RemyDon 7 ай бұрын
Disadvantage *
@Shazzyhtown
@Shazzyhtown 7 ай бұрын
@@RemyDon 🫤 why?
@deepaulie8701
@deepaulie8701 7 ай бұрын
Colorism has JA in a chokehold.
@Creolebabe92
@Creolebabe92 7 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned hospitality. This is why i didnt bother doing a degree in it as my color made no sense smh
@workinabroad
@workinabroad 7 ай бұрын
Do you think you'd have an advantage if you spoke multiple languages?
@Jen-qy4ol
@Jen-qy4ol 7 ай бұрын
Sara Sara SARA 🤣🤣 are you living under a rock???
@antoniaPrince
@antoniaPrince 7 ай бұрын
The girl with the low cut👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@AngelSkyNews
@AngelSkyNews 7 ай бұрын
I understand Sara’s p.o.v. I don’t agree with her, but I know that if you’re Black (or mixed) and look a certain way, you will be TOTALLY oblivious to what darker skin, tight texture hair people go through. Sara shouldn’t say it’s not a thing, but just say she doesn’t understand it because she doesn’t experience it. Saying “it’s not really a thing” is offensive and dismissive to people who are marginalized for their complexion, texture, features. It’s not nice and it shows lack of empathy. If she were in a European setting where her look is not desirable and the preference is straight blonde hair, un-tanned skin, blue eyes, European with no admixture…then she would understand
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
BS. It's not America. Nobody dark skinned is descriminated in Jamaica anymore. You dark skinned Jamaicans just copying this stupid woke culture from America. Stop the damn self pity. Poor you.
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
I think she's being disingenuous and it does show more about her lack of empathy and character than anything else. As a light skinned woman, I know what my privileges are. Also, you are right, in Wyte spaces she wouldn't be the preference and would understand how dark skinned people feel- she not even really considered light skinned in the States, Canada, UK, she'd get a real wake up call.
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h Not even in Jamaica. Many young ladies from South St.Elizabeth are so naturally light or pale you think they could be Latina or white. Places like Treasure Beach, Junction, Bull Savannah etc in South St.Elizabeth. Even in St.Andrew.
@AngelSkyNews
@AngelSkyNews 7 ай бұрын
@@user-dv3kq3rm4h Exactly so!
@analiseferguson
@analiseferguson 7 ай бұрын
It would have been more beneficial to speak to more dark-skinned women...the ones who experience the most colorism. For anyone who wants a quick likkle snapshot of what colorism is like in Jamaican, look at all the ads on TV, on the billbords etc....you will SELDOM see a darker-skinned woman with a lighter-skinned man....even if the man is also dark-skinned
@Tajerra-hp7wt
@Tajerra-hp7wt 7 ай бұрын
I don't know color to me is apart of it but for me it's always going to be rich vs poor.
@stable-ish8327
@stable-ish8327 7 ай бұрын
Love the lil dub 😂
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
It was so good!
@orvillegrant3304
@orvillegrant3304 7 ай бұрын
Dude is right, he admired her internal beauty. Why can't we judge by our internal beauty instead of our physical beauty? I am fair skin, curly hair male, and I would not want access base on my physicality .
@shanelledennis9817
@shanelledennis9817 6 ай бұрын
Yh u have to teach because it does exist‼️‼️ if it never uh need to teach Sara‼️‼️
@jamalgordon8883
@jamalgordon8883 5 ай бұрын
Brown girls are Cool skin and warm skin and olive skin
@reeseb.6985
@reeseb.6985 7 ай бұрын
Anyone saying colourism doesn't exist in Jamaica is ignorant. As a light-skinned Black Jamaican yes I experience some hate/judgement because mi brown, but it is nothing compared to what darker-skinned people go through. It is so obvious with the high rate of bleaching, the number of lighter-skinned or mixed-race beauty queens, which families control the wealth in Jamaica, etc. Bway so much ah wi still a suffer from mental slavery. How can we move on if we don't first acknowledge it exists and then work to change it?
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
You're not even light skinned. You're brown skinned and that is okay. Go to America, Canada and the UK and you won't have to worry about the 'hate' you experience 'cause you won't be considered light skinned amongst Black communities in those places.
@dennisglasgow9454
@dennisglasgow9454 7 ай бұрын
Dub was fire
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
They did their thing!
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
I also feel that because of our history of being enslved by the pale people and the early history after independence where the people who had the money and who got the respect were still the lightskinned ones, we have been conditioned to associate light skin with success or the upper echelon of society. And that is why we still see lightskin as "better" and they still get the acknowledgement and respect and recognition faster than the darker ones. While the darker person has to work harder to prove themselves. Very often if you're dark, its your clothes and what you drive or where you work or how you speak that is going to win respect for you. Which is sad because a person's skin tone or even their financial status, doesn't determine their actual character.
@ariamason9324
@ariamason9324 7 ай бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, some love light some like dark. That will never change. I prefer flawless smooth skin that's it. However the darker skin ages much better than fair skin.
@rexjones691
@rexjones691 7 ай бұрын
your colorist
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
That talk bad girl with the locks, why does she keep referring to herself as though she's lightskinned. Girl, you're a regular shade, stand down.
@876LND
@876LND 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, I’m like girl shut up🤣🤣🤣
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
@@876LND Nuh true. What is she talking about, 'bout she lightskinned.
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
She would not be considered as a " brown ", " light skinned " as half black- half white mulatto wouldn't consider her as not even middle class. 😅😅😅😅😅
@dsmith5855
@dsmith5855 7 ай бұрын
Haha I was thinking the same… like girl. Calm down 😂
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
@dsmith5855 She's capping, ain't no way anybody singled her out for no special favors on the basis of color or looks. We're not buying it 🤣
@VybewithDee
@VybewithDee 6 ай бұрын
Me afi always rate Duchess she ago talk the TRUTH !
@vanessamillwood9710
@vanessamillwood9710 7 ай бұрын
I don't think I have pretty privilege but I definitely have high color privilege which is frustrating because I never know whether or not I'm chosen because of my actual talents or abilities or because of my skin color. I don't know whether or not I'm kept on because I'm doing a good job or because of people's predated misguided beliefs. So I'll walk away from opportunities if I feel like it's a color thing because I'm a proud b**** and I like to know I'm making an actual contribution, but that also means I never know and I have trust issues. I don't know whether people talk to me because I'm likeable or approachable or because they have an assumption because of my color. The amount of men who think I have money and high education because of the color of my skin only to be let down tremendously by the truth😂. It's tiring to be approached and doted on, hoping it's because people actually want to get to know you, but realizing it's because people think you have money, think you 'come from uptown' and can relate to 'uptown' things and see the shift in their eyes when they realize that you're not that. It's like you're not valuable anymore, not worthy of any attention. It's like, 'how dare you deceive me!' 😂 Mi affi laugh suh mi nuh cry. Mi nuh trust nobody weh approach me a backside, mi will fake smile wid dem if mi feel like being polite or stare dem blank in the face and wait till the illusion fades and dem gwaan bout dem business.
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
the term 'high colour' is a problem in itself. Time to awaken out of that colonial slumber with these antiquated terms.
@Jay10-rf3uh
@Jay10-rf3uh 7 ай бұрын
Sara is tone deaf🙂
@johncrowbatty2000
@johncrowbatty2000 7 ай бұрын
@@sarajade_24girl youre deeply undereducated about the racial realities of Jamaica, but you never have to come to terms with your ignorance and mediocrity because Jamaicans will never hold you accountable. But know that you’re very small minded, and anywhere outside of Jamaica this mindset wouldn’t work for you. You don’t see the issue with colourism, because you’re a part of the problem. Period
@ChelseaWarmington-cv6ny
@ChelseaWarmington-cv6ny 7 ай бұрын
Colourblindness is a farce. We can acknowledge that we see the physical differences in people but treat them based on their character only. It has nothing to do with seeing someone as human or not.
@876LND
@876LND 7 ай бұрын
@@sarajade_24that’s like white people saying racism doesn’t exist because “I don’t see race”. Such denial🙄
@thejayisokay33
@thejayisokay33 7 ай бұрын
Bad
@dosphari
@dosphari 7 ай бұрын
Yes, victomhood is the new currency. Everyone is trying to find a way to feel like shit about themself.
@JanetCousins-to3hz
@JanetCousins-to3hz 7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! And they are so brazen and shameless about their victim mentality. I think that they do this because of their innate sense of inferiority, blame it on society and act as if that is a universal situation
@keshastewart8408
@keshastewart8408 7 ай бұрын
Colourism my experience: if you're a guy you're weak. You can't do certain jobs. If you're a brown girl you're put on pedistal. A uptown friend told me that the miss world and miss jamaica pageant is for brown girls preferably the uptown elite. And miss jamaica jcdc festival queen is for black girls. And in alot of cases brown people always get push forward. But I don't give up and I don't let it bother me. I just know that I'll have to fight twice as hard to win the race.
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
Jamaica like many countries suffered from plantation slavery and colonialism for centuries. What do you expect. Nigeria, India etc.
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 7 ай бұрын
"big up di dark skin bwoy dem dem have my heart" umm how is that not colorism?
@Appleboo222
@Appleboo222 7 ай бұрын
Exactly I feel like women play into colorism too by favouring darker men just because they are dark! It suggests that being dark is masculine and being light is feminine
@shanelledennis9817
@shanelledennis9817 6 ай бұрын
Sara bwooiiiiii just shhhhhhh‼️‼️‼️‼️
@BrendaMiller-uz2cc
@BrendaMiller-uz2cc 7 ай бұрын
My mom was mix race and she used to get pick on because of her color snd hair.
@thejayisokay33
@thejayisokay33 7 ай бұрын
Thats not colourism
@Cudjoe-jv4kl
@Cudjoe-jv4kl 7 ай бұрын
In the picture for the video I didn't see any black people. I live in Jamaica and didn't see any dark or black people. Just a group of mixed race people.
@shanelledennis9817
@shanelledennis9817 6 ай бұрын
Colorism does exist!!!! And Sara must guh dung!!!!!!!!
@evaready900
@evaready900 7 ай бұрын
Hold on🤚🏾 Sarah spoke some truth though. Jamaican people need diminish this colorist mentality. Everyone should thrive for whatever they want without hidden barriers.
@jamalgordon8883
@jamalgordon8883 5 ай бұрын
Colourism about light skin don’t like dark skin
@RampinWonderland
@RampinWonderland 7 ай бұрын
Colorism is definitely an issue in Jamaica. But I think classism is another nuanced issue that is weaved in there with colorism.
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you fully, we also did commentary on classism too and a lot of truths were told
@hyiiderr6439
@hyiiderr6439 7 ай бұрын
Love me some Daidra
@franskmouthpiece8487
@franskmouthpiece8487 7 ай бұрын
load of rubbish, if bleaching or the colour of your skin helped people then more bleachers would be rich, however most of them live in the lower working class society of Jamaica. Colourism exists like everywhere in the world but compared to the last 20 to 30 years Jamaica has gotten better. If you study, work hard and trust in God you can get what you want in life. Pretty privilege is a thing too and I believe that no matter your skin colour if you look good you will get some form of favouritism. Not every light skin person is rich and not every dark-skinned person is poor, it is about our life choices. Yes, colourism exist but it won't stop you unless you let it. Racism exists in other countries but it does not stop black people from achieving. Jamaica has a classism issue, rich people rule Jamaica. Rich does not come in any shade. Jamaica gained independence in the 60s and before then the rich were usually white people so a vast majority of the upper elite are still white but that is changing and will change as Jamaica grows as an independent nation.
@jennalud4748
@jennalud4748 7 ай бұрын
And not all light skin people are attractive, and not all dark skin people are ugly! And yes Jamaica is a mixed country, but even in other bigger countries like the Philippines, the Miss World Pageants never really look like the average Filipina! And just know there's lots of dark skin African looking people in Trinidad and Tobago as well!
@misterlexx2721
@misterlexx2721 7 ай бұрын
Many Jamaicans tend dwell on the past. This maybe 30 , 40 years ago. Dark skinned Jamaicans are in prominent positions in the society. The DPP, the current police commissioner, the Chief justice etc. These are all educated Jamaicans. They never bleached for their very well paying jobs.
@jennalud4748
@jennalud4748 7 ай бұрын
@@misterlexx2721 Exactly! Only ghetto people thinks like that! There are so many beautiful black dark skin people, and ugly light skin people! The girl with the braids said she got light skin privilege, well I'm sure if she was beside me(dark skin beauty) she wouldn't get pretty privilege! People have to free themselves from this slave mentality, especially Caribbean people! 🇯🇲❤
@franskmouthpiece8487
@franskmouthpiece8487 7 ай бұрын
exactly a lot of members of parliament are dark-skinned women. A lot of bleachers as well do not do it for jobs or to elevate themselves financially in society but for aesthetics.A lot of countries suffer from colourism but it is about your attitude and mentality that will allow it to die.@@misterlexx2721
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
@@misterlexx2721 OP has a point though. Nobody takes people who bleach their skin in Jamaica seriously. It's synonymous with a certain type of uneducated problem, so technically they're not bleaching to get a certain job or to a certain strata because their bleached appearance does more harm than good- it stigmatizes them as uneducated. It's more of a subculture among the most vulnerable people if anything.
@jotoyafrancis31
@jotoyafrancis31 6 ай бұрын
I honestly think Sara misunderstood the question,because you can’t say you’ve never experienced it but then u go a head to tell a story about it when you were younger
@negusedwards1974
@negusedwards1974 7 ай бұрын
Mi like the effort d show a mek,it might be cliched for some buts it's a issue stil. I thinks it's a shame if you ask me. Especially when u listen some of the statements from the bleachers,my goodness...........I think a lot of yellow or beige or cream colored ppl don't really care about their color most times it's the way others treat them. And yes I said it,we av the colors mixed up, the ppl we call black are actually brown and the ones we call brown are......👆 if u get real with it like that you realize suppn else....
@chrisper7527
@chrisper7527 7 ай бұрын
What is crazy is that colorism does not stop people from having intimate relationships with each other and build families in many cases, we love who we love. But, colorism does exist in the economy, in service sectors, employment, and other sectors. It’s weird.
@maijennasis
@maijennasis 7 ай бұрын
mi seh fi fix it😭
@kerryannwallace9254
@kerryannwallace9254 7 ай бұрын
Duchess is head on
@beautifuldreamer8803
@beautifuldreamer8803 7 ай бұрын
I am sorry but, this was not a very well educated or detailed discussion.
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
I agree, we have to dig up the historical background and the day to day experience of colorism etc. how all of this affects the mind (way of thinking, biases in society and so many other aspects) but this is to start the conversation. There will be more in depth discussion as it relates to this topic and other topics of this nature.
@user-dv3kq3rm4h
@user-dv3kq3rm4h 7 ай бұрын
@@creativeclass876 I think you need to get more serious people onboard for this discussion. Some of the participants played up to Jamaican stereotypes with the buffoonery and it watered down the seriousness of the content, along with the comical sound effects. Also lets start with agreeing that colourism does exist and therefore you need to actively exclude people who gaslight and act like it doesn't, it really hurts the credibility of the content. However it is a start, I hope you take these points on board and continue to make content on this topic.
@mathieublake1670
@mathieublake1670 7 ай бұрын
I like this second look at this. Felt like it had more gravitas for some reason. 👍
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
Thank you ! Appreciate it and we plan to have more conversation about these “hard to have” conversations
@hyiiderr6439
@hyiiderr6439 7 ай бұрын
Now Sara. Sara?!
@KeemBeckford
@KeemBeckford 7 ай бұрын
The dub poem ah kill me 😂😂😂😂
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
The talented Jev and Daindra! 😂
@VybewithDee
@VybewithDee 6 ай бұрын
Jevaughn 😅😅😅😅😅
@jayecks1
@jayecks1 7 ай бұрын
It's still a thing but and it's not addressed or tackled. The treatment of Darker tone person's in JAMAICA of all places is almost unbelievable. I'm of the opinion that the tone of your skin should not give you an upper hand and I've seen light skin person's being treated unfairly aswell do it goes both ways actually but it's more prevalent in darker tone people.
@creativeclass876
@creativeclass876 7 ай бұрын
Yeah there is definitely two sides to the story
@hyiiderr6439
@hyiiderr6439 7 ай бұрын
I disagree! I think it’s important for people to SEE colour. The colour of our skin is a huge part of us, why should we just shove it out the way? I don’t like the “colourblind” people. Acknowledge we look different and treat us with love just the same.
@kerryannwallace9254
@kerryannwallace9254 7 ай бұрын
Sara sara sara
@hello_04
@hello_04 10 күн бұрын
She’s annoyed about the conversation and gaslighting and denying the privilege she receives 🙄🙄🙄.
@shanelledennis9817
@shanelledennis9817 6 ай бұрын
Don’t take the benefits!! U have to set an example
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
There's also reverse colorism where darker people, especially the women, are very B!t chy to the lighter skinned ones and call them names too. I've experienced it where I'm literally just existing and other women want to make trouble with me. I'm not even as light as that young lady in the video who said she gets picked on, but I'm tall, slender, honey-toned with long hair and I constantly hear how I think I'm better than people and I literally don't. In fact when people get to know me, they always confess how at first they didn't like me. My mom is very light and she also suffered growing up with people calling her mango juice, mullato, "where you going to go if we're all gojng back to Africa?".
@maijennasis
@maijennasis 7 ай бұрын
reverse colorism doesn’t exist, hope this helps!🩷
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
@maijennasis You're dark skinned so you would not say it does but darker people do pick on light people sometimes and try to make trouble with them. It's not only dark skins who cam be victims, they can also be the trouble makers.
@justmahalia2984
@justmahalia2984 7 ай бұрын
Time and place. That is not a thing. That is jealousy and bullying. It's not the same. Move on since you want to shift the discussion.
@thejayisokay33
@thejayisokay33 7 ай бұрын
No such thing as reverse colourism but yes nobody should assume all lightskins are prejudice
@MsRenaissance
@MsRenaissance 7 ай бұрын
@justmahalia2984 It needs to be discussed right here because darker people want to pretend they are the knky victims when their jealousy and envy can make them even dangerous to the lighter skinned person. It will never get its own air time and you know it because to even point it out makes the darker people upset. Light sk!ns must only suffer in silence.
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