Connor and Chris were REJECTED from a Japanese Hotel

[@Zanian19]

Japanese racism get excused a lot I've noticed. Just because they aren't used to foreigners, doesn't justify it even a little. Imagine if in parts of Finland (or any other extremely white Nordic country) they didn't allow black people in their hotels or restaurants. The world would be in an uproar.

[@leonc4653]

Well in Stockholm, I got filmed with my colleagues while walking to a buffet by a supposedly Ukrainian. We remembered the name slightly wrong, so he followed us from the suburb he lived in to the main street just to check we were going where we were. Once we finished he continued to film us as we went by to get back into the car. I asked why he filmed us? said some "chinese" bet him up (so natural conclusion) all asians are suspicious. the moment i said im from NZ he said " u are a good guy." My colleagues gave up, knowing the result is just meaningless. Just happens there was a police car roaming the suburb he went up to them (i dont know what he said but u can imagine). The police car leaves and he goes back onto his iphone 13 to continue filming us leave. So I would say Im quite unlucky but also no shiny uproar. You just take it... this is such a virtue signal, european countries had taken such different stances when it came to the Syrian are treated vs the Ukrainians. its insane and despite the "uproar" did it happen any other way?

[@Zanian19]

@@leonc4653 Every city in the world, bar none, have individual racists. It's a far cry from cultural and systemic racism. So that story, and especially your tangent on refugees, is completely irrelevant to this.

[@0Clewi0]

I guess in part because it's more passive aggressive rather than aggresive or outright lethal. Or that japan is equally racist towards everyone.

[@agent136]

@@0Clewi0 p much this from what I've seen.

[@sagephil]

@@leonc4653 The way they treat Ukrainians vs Syrians isnt virtue signaling. Its war in their backyard against a neighbor whos been rattling their sabers for over half a century. Ukrainians are Europeans with shared history so its natural that they get a lot of sympathy. The simple fact is that the closer you are to someone the easier it is to empathize. Nobody treats everyone the same.

[@NoChildSupport69420]

I really do hate how a lot of racism in Japan is excused as not a lot of foreigners come through or very shy. No, 99% of those interacts are the definition of racism

[@SaberTooth_TFG]

Regardless of all the trouble, at least Chris and Connor’s date wasn’t completely ruined

[@noahwick3217]

"maybe theyre not racist, they could just be shy and awkward" shout out to all those shy and awkward japanese racist

[@MrViki60]

They're white, no one can be racist against them. Racism is understood to be combination of Power and Prejudice. Between whites and Japaneses, only the former has power, so no, they're not racist.

[@noahwick3217]

I don't think racism requires power and prejudice exclusively. Structural racism does but not every form of racism is displayed through class disparities. Additionally in this circumstance the hotel staff did have power, and used it to stop people from accessing they're business due to their appearance or nationality. End of paragraph

[@FM-dm8xj]

“Due to their nationality” what evidence do you have to suggest such nonsense? Stop the virtue signalling please.

[@83hjf]

@@FM-dm8xj cry harder

[@FM-dm8xj]

@@83hjf bahahaha sorry i forgot to add a trigger warning.

[@J.Crime123]

Dont try to excuse and disguise its as shy. It is what it is. Racism.

[@englishatheart]

Too many people have been brainwashed into thinking only white people can be racist. It's why you rarely see people call out racism by other races.

[@danielgonzalez-pf5el]

Funny enough, this would be the third time these two got rejected in a hotel. Anyone remember the love hotel video?

[@PicassosCat]

so theyre xenophobic AND homophobic

[@imfromaustria9327]

thought they were going to talk about that one

[@firstnamelastname8439]

I mean, yeah. Culturally conservative society. Comes with all the usual downsides of cultural conservatism.

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

@@PicassosCat No no.... the love hotel was just... you know... camera shy. It didn't want to do full frontal.

[@aterriblesliceoftoast]

No no, Racism can’t be called Shy-ness. I can’t treat a person from a different ethnic origin like doo doo, and claim I’m just shy and everything be okay, the world doesn’t work that way 😂

[@englishatheart]

While being wary of someone or something different is natural (nearly all animals, which we are, are apprehensive of different things), treating people like crap because they're different isn't okay.

[@saborivaille1258]

The bus driver I had in the outskirts of Sapporo made me wait at this isolated bus stop in the snow. I tried boarding early and he told me to not board yet. Ok , I’ll stand in the elements even though the bus doors were open. When I get to my stop I go up to pay. I put the coins in the machine. Suddenly he starts yelling and yelling. Was fucking livid at me. I had no idea what he was saying. I was just a tourist that couldn’t speak Japanese at the time. While I was copping abuse a line of people were waiting to get off the bus. One kind man took out his wallet and gave me 10 En. He told me I had paid the bus driver 10 en over what I was supposed to pay. I’m not American, I don’t tip but I made a mistake. But maybe he thought I was and by doing that insulting him. I just wanted to get off I don’t care about 10en. But I just said thank you very much to the other commuter and took his 10en and left. It was very embarrassing. Being yelled at and treated that way without knowing what’s going on infront of all these people. The other passengers were very uncomfortable with the whole situation too. Kutabare bus driver. And thank you random kind guy.

[@theturtle8869]

Ironmouse Defense Fund

[@goodiebearmcslaping6878]

Chris is looking really good you can tell that hard work is paying off hope he keeps it up

[@SKPetel]

I did the exact walk the dude you met did, back in 2015. only I skipped hokkaido due to time constraints with my visa so I started at tappimizaki (near Aomori) and walked south to kagoshima. even had a now dead blog about the travel called "Ahou no Tabi"

[@IzzyIkigai]

Idea for a less click-baity title: "Watch white men defend the racism they experienced"

[@youtubeisproCCP]

Wait till they leave Japan. Remember how ADVChina was and NOW is? Yeah, once you’re out you can fire up. I live here and don’t speak shit since I’m a guest here.

[@IzzyIkigai]

@@youtubeisproCCP the fuck you talking about? They literally vlog about how shit food is while in the restaurant that made it. Your perspective is just that - *yours*.

[@youtubeisproCCP]

@@IzzyIkigai Talking shit about food is pleb tier. I’m talking about how ADVChina went from not saying shit about the government whilst in China to full blown justifiable RAGE once they were in California. What i’m saying is, food critics are acceptable and nobody bats an eye. Talk shit about how a great solution to Japan is assist all the elderly into suicide for a boom in housing and babies since property prices will drop, taxes will go down since less pensions. You see what I mean? Controversial topics are never truly spoken about unless you have a death wish, if say you’re not citizen of said country.

[@RadenWA]

@@youtubeisproCCP I think being occasionally refused service vs having the government literally come to your hotel demanding you to remove some footage leads to a different reaction regardless of where you are, but let’s just say they are free to talk shit about Japan anytime they want they just chose not to.

[@SeishiZero]

0:55 At work there is a closed locked door that no one ever opens with a large sign on it reading "IDF closet". For years, I was wondering why the Israeli Defense Force had a closet at our medium sized Marketing firm. ;) Years later, I found out the closet was the floor's intermediate distribution frame (IDF) aka local server room.

[@20424468]

That was racism, don't try to disguise it as shyness

[@aterriblesliceoftoast]

Yeah, but this is what no one wants to talk about.

[@mrnugget4041]

I love the trash taste boys but Joey saying its not racist its because they aren't used to foreigners is ridiculous a person from a different country is still a person its not confusing.

[@k1ngZ4PP4]

I know right. It's annoying af when people try to cover for it.

[@FM-dm8xj]

Exactly where was the racism displayed and said?

[@FM-dm8xj]

@@aterriblesliceoftoast Exactly where was the racism displayed and said?

[@smugsneasel]

Those fools. Refusing Connor like that when he would've no doubt had something crazy happen to him there that he would talk about, that would serve as free advertising.

[@sechabatheletsane9784]

The last thing they would want is more foreigners by the sound of it😂😂

[@missquprison]

Up from 6:10 the amount of copium regret and just pure sadness written on their faces except for Joey is humongous. Sad.

[@themechanicalgirl6669]

The twitter fan: You might bump into a random Czech-point along the way! Chris: It's just the cameraman! Connor: IT'S YOU!?!

[@derptyderp5287]

10:40 I feel like we need a Hobbit audiobook read by Chris Broad.

[@RayanMADAO]

"Maybe they're not racist, they're just uncomfortable :^)" 6:06 Great way to rationalize racism, being Japanese means you can do no wrong I guess

[@Mryodamiles]

This is one thing I seen a lot on trash taste… especially from Joey (also Meilyn). They really push this narrative of “they are not racist, they just don’t want you there… and it’s completely acceptable bc this is Japan”.

[@karamjitdedyal752]

@@Mryodamiles Based what is happening in the Europe and the USA I do not blame them in a way. We are basically destroying ourselves.

[@danielgwynne7266]

True, I doubt people in Japan are any more uncomfortable than those in the west so why is it necessary if no one bothers to talk about it over here

[@FM-dm8xj]

They literally bash on Japan all the time kid, even in this video. But I guess bashing on Japan is acceptable if u want to push your agenda on their country

[@meatymateo705]

@@FM-dm8xj big fax, half this podcast is them complaining about japan

[@katcorot]

I was lied to. Surely, we were funding the "Ironmouse Defence Fund"

[@RayanMADAO]

I'd just sleep in the car

[@Mysticpoisen]

I've known a few people to walk all four main islands surprisingly enough. One guy would run, and he would try to do as many marathons along the way as he could. Absolute madman.

[@roor6846]

Wakkanai is the most unfriendly place I've been in Japan. Restaurants were turning away Japanese tourists too. My friend and I went to one place at like 8:10pm and they said "we close at 9pm", I asked, in Japanese, if we ordered quickly would it be ok and they begrudgingly accepted that. I ordered a fairly basic soup and they grumpily said I couldn't have it. It was just so strange, if they'd said "last order was at 8" it would have been fine. The hostel I stayed in was lovely though, very nice staff. But the general atmosphere around the town was pretty cold and unwelcoming. Hokkaido in general was fantastic, I traveled all over, loved it! I highly recommend the Heso Matsuri (belly-button festival) in Furano. Wakkanai was the only downside.

[@hellofromhokkaido690]

I've spent a lot of time on Rebun Island and the locals were definitely stand offish at first but that quickly turned into incredible kindness.

[@Razzying]

IDF bit was so funny

[@justin_64]

Idk they are known for killing children

[@ironholdnw]

I love watching the cycling stuff you guys have been doing of late. However, I recommend that if you are going to continue doing them you take an afternoon and learn how to fit a bike to your body. Most people ignore bike fit and, as stupid as it sounds, millimeters of movement are sometimes enough to go from aching knees and a screaming back to a perfectly happy ride. Even on rented bikes you should be able to make those little changes for comfort. Unless the point is to be uncomfortable as a challenge. Then, by all means, carry on!

[@Milamberinx]

Chris mentioned exactly such an adjustment that he made several days in to the journey. It was a bit of a facepalm moment for me.

[@sebastiantravis9406]

Is this the one where Chris-chan goes: If you love Racism, you'll love it here! 😎 I still stand HOKKAIDO is imo my fav Japanese Region still hehe.

[@Lisapizzza]

Eating in foreign countries where I don't speak the language has always been my biggest struggle. These stories do not help!

[@Coolio_Ash]

No... I'd call that racism but that's just me

[@markusmeldre]

Anybody know the Czech guy's twitter?

[@lucasbrunette8100]

Same, I'm super into thru-hiking and walked from Mexico to Canada on the Pacific Crest Trail in 2021 (5 months total). I'm really interested in trying to contact this guy and get some insights from him. Walking the length of Japan is definitely a future goal of mine

[@iZiggy_]

I miss the short clips

[@slugmanjones3504]

I'm a brown person in the US so hearing about this sorta thing, I think "eh that sounds not so bad."

[@nikostavrianos2327]

I accidentally opened the channel, good accident

[@nikostavrianos2327]

Nonono great accident

[@marcus5011]

"There are no Oogway" -Master accidents

[@ramboturkey1926]

"there not racist there just shy" stop making excuses for xenophobes

[@dekumutant]

Don't be so scared to just call people racist guys lol

[@sochinese]

what manwa is Garnt's shirt from?

[@madrabbit4916]

Big up for Melissa 😎

[@thevictoryoverhimself7298]

Person: “you can’t be racist against white people, white people have systemic power” Me: “my brother in Christ let me introduce you to “75% of the planet””.

[@btchard7409]

You don't understand. For people that know the czech, what that guy did/is doing is actually not that weird. The czechs are on a different level :) Ask some slovaks :)

[@JCDadalus]

There's a lot of shy and uncomfortable Americans as well. Now more than ever.

[@pakeshde7518]

Sadly a tad too common all around the world just Japan its * white english the inn is full* nonsense.

[@Benjakems]

Men or no men?

[@sechabatheletsane9784]

Ra-men

[@jacobevans489]

Stories like this make me think the Perry expedition wasn't to bad of an idea. Oh...you want to be dicks and not trade and such? ...cannon think thats a bad idea. Everyone talks shit about American racial issues. But goddamnit least we are trying to deal with it and don't hide behind "shyness".

[@ceraillia603]

If someone did that to me in Japan, i would knock on the floor make symbols with my finger,stand up and inJapanese just say ‘A curse on your House’ see how quickly they take that back XD

[@fred3liow363]

well...the culture of no gaijin is dying sooner or later... no worries.. no one is having babies anyways... meh..

[@Ezekiel_Kleyer]

I await the day when people realise that Japan is not a good country.

[@83hjf]

lol, this guy FM is going to hate so hard on your comment.

[@ameshunter]

@@83hjf it's virtue signaling guys. Virtue signaling! Did I mention virtue signaling? Virtue signaling.

[@ceshmate1953]

not a single country is a good country, there will always be negatives. Stop hating cause your envious of people going to japen.

[@dcdx8966]

English teacher?

[@puppyqueen5688]

@@ceshmate1953 they try to force sterilisation on trans people. and generally make our lives hell

[@INFINITEKN]

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[@TheStygian]

I wish I could be as bigoted as the Japanese and get excused with being shy lmao

[@emptyasmrman]

I’ve heard it’s very common for foreigners to book rooms at remote places and just take off without paying. So maybe she just took the well if one does it they all do it mindset.

[@MyH3ntaiGirl]

Pay up front Go up to check your room, if you don't like it, get your money and move on So simple

[@jst_TV]

@@MyH3ntaiGirl why didn't the hotel staff inform them they had to pay upfront? So simple not to treat paying customers like trash

[@tc2241]

Is it really common, or it happened once or twice due to miscommunication and now they act like foreigner will do it? It also doesn’t excuse that kind of behavior

[@emptyasmrman]

@@tc2241 Oh no not at all excusing it, just pointing out the reason probably why. And yes it does happen quite a bit to my knowledge, ESPECIALLY in the outskirts where they are less likely to know English. At the end of the day it's still them justifying racism but there is a starting point.

[@jacobdefoy3695]

i was the 1k like : )

[@siaowun9418]

Its kinda weird seeing the contrast between the trash bois trying to understand japan and the comment section just calling it racist. I'm like is it normal to go into another country and just fling insults? I just leave if they don't want me.

[@sirebellum0]

It's universally bad behavior to reject people under no other basis than the fact that they are different. Doesn't matter the country. Just because something is a norm, doesn't mean its right. That's like saying Saudi Arabia's treatment of women is completely justified simply because its a different country and the norm over there. Common human ethics exist and get called out when they are broken

[@goggles8691]

@@sirebellum0 but they're also passing judgement based off of a couple of sentences that also had "maybe they just have atrocious service all the time" as a possibility. Another thing that the comments are doing is removing the word "uncomfortable" and only focusing on calling them shy, with the implication of what Chris actually said (to me at least) being that it was a stance coming from ignorance. That is not to say that ignorance doesn't fuel racism, but it is important to understand where people are coming from, and (at least to me) racism carries the implication of there being some sort of malice or superiority to prove when it is used on its own. To use your own example, if somebody was refusing entry to a Saudi Arabian because they thought they would harm the environment because of their views coming from the societal norms of their own country, is that wrong? The answer is that we don't know, they might have harmed the environment of the establishment or they might be a very kind man who can exist with others peacefully. However, regardless of the outcome, the owner shouldn't be getting called absolutely racist by people who's only information is "a Saudi Arabian was told to leave an establishment", because there might've been a legitimate reason behind it or there might have been an illegitimate reason that had nothing to do with race or there might've been an illegitimate reason that they genuinely thought was legitimate

[@sirebellum0]

@@goggles8691 Yeah, I don't agree with you at all. In your example, the answer is not "we don't know", its just "its wrong". Judge individuals as individuals, not as their group. That's called stereotyping; which is pretty universally regarded as bad. I don't tolerate that. Grown adults should know better; we're not talking about children. Just as one of the "safe" Japanese people they let in could actually be a rowdy Yakuza member or something, that "wicked foreigner" they let through could be extremely polite & respectful. Therefore one should not be prejudice

[@goggles8691]

@@sirebellum0 ok but what if that Saudi Arabian guy had also walked in with two women (same age) wearing hijabs and a large amount of the staff are women and several of them had a negative reaction when they walked in. There is now much more probable cause to believe that he will take issue with the workers and there is now a reason to tell them to leave preemptively. However, that interaction could still be called "a Saudi Arabian was told to leave an establishment" as a summary. To connect this back to the video, there is a real possibility that there was information that we weren't told and that they thought was completely natural and didn't mention (or they just didn't know it in the first place) but that had made those hotel workers much more aggressive.

[@goggles8691]

@@crowwithashortcake hello, I am here to inform you that my grandfather, who I love very much, is a Muslim immigrant. I would also like to inform you that I have never seen a hijab before in my own family. I am both well aware of the fact that some women choose to wear a hijab by their own volition and that some have identified it as unnecessary in Islam. I would also like to say that I am not the kind of fool who would say that "violent people can be identified by their clothes" or something. Further, I would like to point out that in both my comments I never said or implied that this fictional Saudi Arabian man actually beat either of his wives, the point of the description was to showcase that he is both Middle Eastern and very traditional Muslim. In reality, the person I was responding to is the one who said that the societal norm of Saudi Arabia, and thus the common opinion of the people, is the mistreatment of women. Of course, I agree with you, it is not the women's fault that others feel uncomfortable seeing them, especially so if they do as a showcase of their culture. However, just because nobody should feel guilty about others feeling uncomfortable because of who they are, we should not simply discount the very real discomfort that those people feel, even if it is built on the prejudices they grew up on. I will admit that due to the nature of my comment it appears that I was absolving the workers of their negative views towards Muslims, and for that, I apologize. The thing I had intended to absolve was the act of refusing the group service because of the people's discomfort itself, not the discomfort on its own. To connect this point to the argument I was trying to make, it is not that prejudice and discrimination are ok, but that to decide on your own that something is most definitely racist, especially when it is built on "Japan has a lot of xenophobia", is beyond foolish and to presume you know enough to say to say such a thing so definitively is the strongest evidence that you do not

[@DerpEye]

If they really donated money to a fkn military, that would've been lit.

[@TheCreepypro]

while I do feel bad for the boys as a brown person who experiences racism on the regular I then remember that they are white europeans who on most days experience no racism so yeah I don't feel too bad for them

[@thesussybaka7733]

They are foreigners living in an Asian country This a daily occurrence for them

[@xenomorph733]

Yeah one we do and two you just don't like white people

[@FM-dm8xj]

“Haitekonaide” litterally just means the master didn’t want Chris and Connor to enter . If it was really more malicious he would have just said “detetekure”. Their is no evidence to suggest it was racism.

[@83hjf]

I'll never understand the clowns that try to justify japanese bullshit.

[@atomics6397]

Why would someone turn down customers when room is available and they were still open? Kinda seems like racism and discrimination to me…..

[@FM-dm8xj]

@@atomics6397 Because they might be setting up, they have a right to? their might be other parties coming, whenever a person says "haitekonaide" it implies im doing something right now please dont interrupt. Im merely saying they have no evidence to suggest racism.

[@itsmefm]

Haitekonaide is keigo right? Also wouldn't they say if they were setting up the room or if it was booked already? I was wondering exactly what was racist while listening, but some people are hesitant with foreigners so it might be that idk

[@FM-dm8xj]

​@@itsmefm Its not exaclty keigo, but japanese people talk in casual language to foreignors because they need to dumb it down for them to make it as simple as posssible. They dont need to give an excuse if they are busy and need to clean or on break (probably from being overworked). Thats what im saying though, nothing racist was said.

[@malinazhnita725]

it makes me really happy that the czech guy gave em plumbs godbless

[@Milamberinx]

Dobrý den. Těší mě.

[@Deamos33]

Guessing They are not real keen on same sex relationships..